A Sampling of Sentiments in Australia

Posted by Geoff Beck on January 02, 2006, 04:57 AM | #

AUSTRALIAN CITY COUNCIL VOTES TO REMOVE AUSTRALIAN FLAG FROM LOCAL BEACHES TO AVOID OFFENDING NON-AUSTRALIANS!!

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/bondi-flag-fears-ridiculous-iemma/2006/01/02/1136050371894.html

But what will the respectable conservative do? Oh, the city council members were the respectable conservatives, I’d bet.

Posted by Mark Richardson on January 02, 2006, 06:17 AM | #

Last night I was watching the ABC (Australian Broadcasting Commission) news and I saw a report on a riot in the NSW country town of Dubbo.

A crowd of 100 had surrounded two police officers, who had intercepted a suspected stolen car, and beaten them badly - both were taken to hospital, one with a broken jaw. The crowd then torched both the police car and the stolen car. Dubbo itself was then placed in “lockdown” under the new police laws.

And that’s all the report said. I was curious because I know that Dubbo has an Aboriginal population, but there was nothing about who the “youths” were.

When I got on the internet and looked up the Sydney Morning Herald site, I got this report. Not much help, as still no background information.

It was only when I bought a copy of the Melbourne Herald Sun that I found a tiny report (p.13), the second last paragraph of which said,

“An Aboriginal elder, who asked not to be named, said the trouble-makers were becoming more confident because they knew they would not be punished.”

Talk about a double standard! After Cronulla we were inundated with media talk of white racism, of white supremacism, of the need to smash non-existent “white supremacist cells” and so on. But when Aborigines are involved, the Sydney Morning Herald is too coy to even mention the fact.

Nor do I believe that Anglo youths would be allowed to become “confident because they knew they would not be punished”.

Where now is the talk of Aboriginal racism or Aboriginal supremacists or of the need to target Aborigines for anti-racism programmes?

Posted by Ian on January 02, 2006, 06:25 AM | #

Even some leftist commentators in Australia have refrained from condemning the “racism” of Australians, simply because they or their friends have had experience of violence or racism at the hands of the Leb gangs. It has been a huge problem for a long time. In 1995 about 1000 Leb gang members attacked crowds of backpackers at Bondi Beach, and then demolished police cars when the police tried to intervene. Australia had never seen anything like it at the time, and was shocked.

The wealthy suburb of Bondi and their shop-keepers received a new police station in response.

http://www.aic.gov.au/conferences/criminality/homelp.pdf

Regarding the Council rejecting the Australian flag, that Council is controlled by Green and left interests. In later reports, the Council allege the decision was made because of costs. However their rebuttal doesn’t ring true. Their response to early queries did in fact refer to concerns about racial tension.

Posted by fred on January 02, 2006, 07:41 AM | #

Just saw a report on TV. In response to Cronulla, a councillor called George Newhouse has had the Australian Flag banned at Bondi Beach!

Posted by Andrew on January 02, 2006, 07:43 AM | #

I have read some of the articles Svi, but none are close to the truth. Over the last few weeks, on commercial radio in Sydney, perhaps the only one not tainted by left wing nut jobs- Police were calling in talk back radio asking why most of the events were not being reported, this is our own police force telling us what is happening, and complaining that the incidents were not published in media outlets.
This comes from High political morons and police senior ranks.
Mark , Racial riots in WA SA are normal, between Aboriginal and Sudanese Refugees usually, never reported in the media, only perhaps a close resident on the net will phone through and state the events, Investigative reporting confirms it is indeed and event and know one wants to report it.
All the other reports Svi, on the link, waste of effort and energy reading some of the writers commentry, they obviously all work on the space station or on the moon surface. It is a Moslem problem all round, Victoria country towns have lost a lot of territory through local politics, Our Country and National leaders have signed off on our Rights and Soverignty. Make no mistake in that statement- you will soon find out.

Posted by Anglo Devil on January 02, 2006, 02:34 PM | #

Just saw a report on TV. In response to Cronulla, a councillor called George Newhouse has had the Australian Flag banned at Bondi Beach!

George Newhouse, Waverley Councillor and lawyer:

http://ausfirst.alphalink.com.au/fraser/fraser3.html
http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2005/s1384493.htm
http://seven.com.au/news/topstories/131965

In the face of public outrage, he has since claimed that the decision not to fly the flag is about ‘costs’, not race.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on January 02, 2006, 03:17 PM | #

Click on the first link “Anglo Devil” gives in his comment just above:  it turns out Newhouse is Jewish and a Zionist to boot, so this is flaming hypocrisy on his part.  When Jewish Zionists do this—tout multiculti for white Christian communities and nations but monoculti for Israel—it’s more than just hypocrisy:  it’s an attack on what they see as their ancient enemy, white Christianity.  They know multiculti weakens it and has the potential to destroy it completely, so they support multiculti because they want what weakens and potentially destroys what they view as their ancient enemy.  It’s important to call Jewish Zionists on this whenever they do it.  The U.S. Jewish neocons all do it.  No, they aren’t uniform in their support of multiculti but they certainly are in their support of the slow genocide of white Euro Christian populations the world over by means of forced race-replacement with non-whites and non-Christians.  Needless to add, they would never, ever support the corresponding race-replacement immigration policies for Israel.  What they’re doing is trying to deal the death blow to what they view as their ancient enemy, white-Euro Christianity.  Given all the help they’re receiving from white Euro Christians, they’re a long way to succeeding.  They probably can’t believe how easy it’s been.

My main point here is that they should be openly called on this every time they’re noticed to be doing it.  The U.S. Jewish neocons are the most blatant at it.

(I haven’t read Anglo Devil’s other links because I’m in a rush—headed out the door.)

Posted by Anglo Devil on January 02, 2006, 03:19 PM | #

I think the majority public mood can be summed up best by the words of NSW state opposition leader Peter Debnam:

Your softly, softly strategy on ethnic crime has been a disgrace and a betrayal of the community of New South Wales.

This last 72 hours has been an absolute disgrace. It’s been a disgrace internationally and it should be sheeted home to the Labor Party of New South Wales for your denial for 10 years, and your simple standing up day after day in this House and ignoring ethnic crime, ethnic crime which has been endemic through south-west Sydney.

They are now ahead in the polls 43% to Labor’s 34%.

The Sutherland Shire, including Cronulla beach, is now a no-go zone for certain ethnicities. These certain ethnicities can only go to beaches in yuppy pro-refugee-type areas to cause havoc. The Australian flag is a symbol of aggressive anglo-celtic identity like it was 30 years ago. Whoever doesn’t like it can whine all they want, as long as they don’t do it in Sutherland. They can enjoy their ‘diversity’ til the cows come home, as long as they enjoy it on the northern side of the Captain Cook Bridge that divides the Shire from the rest of Sydney. It’s like the mason-dixie line.

Win/win.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on January 02, 2006, 08:05 PM | #

“The Australian flag is a symbol of aggressive anglo-celtic identity like it was 30 years ago. Whoever doesn’t like it can whine all they want, as long as they don’t do it in Sutherland. They can enjoy their ‘diversity’ til the cows come home, as long as they enjoy it on the northern side of the Captain Cook Bridge that divides the Shire from the rest of Sydney. It’s like the mason-dixie line.” (—Anglo Devil)

The really outrageous thing is that when this same crowd runs around claiming the Stars & Stripes are “offensive” it’s supposedly because of the U.S.’s history of Negro slavery, followed by “Jim Crow” (legal Segregation in Dixie, forcibly ended by Eisenhower, Kennedy, and Johnson in the 50s and 60s), colonialism and exploitation of the Third World, and so on.  But what did poor Australia do that makes its flag so “offensive”?  Nothing!  Not a thing!—no Negro slavery in its history, no legal Segregation, no colonialism—nothing!  Yet it gets the same treatment as the Stars and Stripes:  the Australian flag is “offensive” for some reason and can’t be flown—and we’re not talking about “can’t be flown in front of some embassy in some Third World capital,” but can’t even be flown in Australian national territory, the Australian homeland, no less!  It can’t be flown!  It’s too offensive! Can anyone imagine this Jewish Zionist saying the Israeli flag is “offensive” and can’t be flown in Israel?  Yet he’ll say it about Australia’s flag!  What a slimy hypocrite!

We see clearly from this that the attack isn’t based on “past national injustice” but upon the mere fact it’s a white-Euro Christian country.  There’s a worldwide movement to attack and bring down white Euro Christianity and their nation-states by any and all means possible.  White Euro Christians are suicidal fools if they let this crap go much further.  They need to begin standing up to it—and the thousands of young white Australian men who took their stand at Cronulla are a good start ....

Posted by Fred Scrooby on January 02, 2006, 08:27 PM | #

“If Mr. Newhouse is opposed to ethnic separatist politics, we await his declaration against Zionist Israel, a stand which would establish his consistency and integrity to speak against Andrew Fraser.” (—from Anglo Devil’s first link)

No Jewish Zionist has standing to speak against Prof. Andrew Fraser.  Not one.  Not one Jewish Zionist has moral standing to do that.  No Jewish Zionist has moral standing to declare Australia’s national flag too “offensive” to be flown over Australian soil.  Not one. Any who dare to do that are the most brazen, the most slimy hypocrites imaginable.  If you’re the type of wacko Jew who wants to destroy Israel along with the white-Euro Christian country you live in, that’s bad enough—you’re wacko ... but at least you’re not a hypocrite.  But if you’re a Jew who’s going to say policies expressive of and conducive to normal national good health are proper for Israel but improper for Australia, Canada, the U.S., or any European country, I’m sorry but that’s not acceptable behavior on your part.  That’s low, despicable, twisted, totally unacceptable behavior on your part.

Posted by Matra on January 02, 2006, 09:40 PM | #

It’s been 41 years since the Canada’s Red Ensign with the “Union Jack” in the corner was replaced by the meaningless Maple Leaf. It was controversial at the time and there was much bitterness but in the years since the fight seems to have gone out of Anglo Canada. Symbols do matter. It was a civilised country back then compared to today but clearly there must have been something wrong with it for the symbols of the country’s heritage to be removed from the flag in the first place.

Despite British symbols remaining on provincial flags - for now - people who still fly the old Red Ensign (very few) are often seen as dangerous racists, or at the very least, cranks. Only 20 years ago the Confederate Battle Flag could be seen even in the music videos of left wingers (eg Steve Earle) yet today it is the “American Swastika” flown only by racists. Perhaps a few years from now those who cling to the Australian Blue Ensign will be similarly condemned

Posted by Fred Scrooby on January 02, 2006, 10:45 PM | #

Thanks for the comment and link, Matra.  If ever I have occasion to fly the Canadian flag I’ll definitely choose the Red Ensign, not the Maple Leaf.

“In recent years, many far-right and neo-Nazi groups in Canada, particularly those affiliated with Paul Fromm, have attempted to appropriate the Canadian Red Ensign as a symbol of their movement to emphasize what they assert is their adherence to traditional Canadian values. Fromm’s groups, as well as other white supremacist groups such as the Canadian Heritage Alliance, advocate the re-adoption of the ensign as Canada’s national flag. Most supporters of the Canadian Red Ensign, however, reject attempts by white supremacists to co-opt the symbol and decry attempts to associate the Canadian Red Ensign with racist views.” (—from the Wikipedia article linked by Matra)

I’d like one of these sniveling Canadian lefties of the type that wrote that article to explain the difference between, on the one hand, a far-rightist, a neo-Nazi, and a white supremacist, and on the other, a completely apolitical person who wishes every race well and opposes only the forced race-replacement of the white race.  The leftist won’t be able to do it, because according to his type of mind there is no difference:  a person who opposes the race-replacement of the white race is a far-rightist, a neo-Nazi, and a white supremacist.  There’s no middle ground. 

Whether or not the white person who opposes race-replacement thinks whites are superior is no one’s business, any more than whether or not the parent who opposes his kids’ being exchanged with someone else’s thinks they’re superior.  That’s irrelevant.  A white person has a right not to see his race deliberately genocided out of existence through the tactic of immigrationing it to death.  That a white person has such a right the left will never concede.

Posted by Melba Peachtoast on January 03, 2006, 01:34 AM | #

Mr. Scrooby, are you single? I only ask because your rhetoric is so, so . . . commanding! The woman who owns your heart is a lucky girl. Toodles! --Melba

Posted by Al Ross on January 03, 2006, 01:56 AM | #

George Neuhaus is, of course, Jewish and his interests are not the interests of mainstream Australians who are rightly proud of their flag and, more importantly, the country it symbolises. Mr Neuhaus is also a citizen of Israel, by operation of The Law (not the policy) of Return and I seriously doubt that, were he translated to the Jewish state, pressure from the same religious group (ie Muslims) would persuade him to lower the Star of David.

Posted by Svigor on January 03, 2006, 02:04 AM | #

That a white person has such a right the left will never concede.

It’s precisely so.  I’ve taken to arguing with leftists and anti-racists less and less over time, instead I’ve been cutting to the chase by ignoring all their nonsense, ignoring all their questions, and asking them one simple question:

Do you acknowledge the right of whites to secure a future for themselves, as a race?

They don’t answer, they just slink away or pretend they never saw the question.  I did recently have one wacko admit that no, as a race we didn’t have the right to secure a future for ourselves.

I like this question because it’s a time-saver and a table-turner.  It saves time because I don’t waste my time on people who won’t answer affirmatively (and none ever does).  It turns the tables because it cuts right through the Gordian Knot of leftist stupidity (hot air, obfuscation, etc.,) and gets right to the point - leftists want tyranny for white people who oppose the death of their race.

Posted by Desmond Jones on January 03, 2006, 02:34 AM | #

The issue you alude to Matra, is racial distrust; but racial distrust stemming not from people of colour, but, as so often has been the case in Canada, from another white group, French Cdns. The contentious issue, as early as 1946 was not the Red Ensign itself, but as you suggest the Union Jack in it’s corner.

The Maple Leaf is not meaningless. The Royal Canadian Navy used the ML on its ships as early as WWI. My Dad often mentioned the Maple Leaf painted on the funnels of RCN ships during WWII to distinguish them as Canadian. The RCN also wore red Maple Leaf shoulder patches.

Alexander Muir’s famous, though now long suppressed, song the Maple Leaf Forever, written for confederation in 1867, was English Canada’s unofficial anthem at least until WWII.

In Days of yore,
From Britain’s shore,
Wolfe the dauntless hero came
And planted firm Britannia’s flag
On Canada’s fair domain.
Here may it wave,
Our boast, our pride,
And join in love together,
The thistle, shamrock, rose entwined,
The Maple Leaf Forever

[CHORUS]

The Maple Leaf
Our Emblem Dear,
The Maple Leaf Forever.
God save our Queen and heaven bless,
The Maple Leaf Forever.

It’s not the symbol that’s invalid, it’s the distortion of the symbol and it’s long held values that are the issue.

Posted by ben tillman on January 03, 2006, 04:19 AM | #

I changed the Red Ensign entry a bit:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Red_Ensign

We’ll see how long it lasts.

Posted by Matra on January 03, 2006, 04:20 AM | #

Desmond:

The Maple Leaf is not meaningless. The Royal Canadian Navy used the ML on its ships as early as WWI.

True, but the Maple Leaf Flag drawn up by a committee is meaningless.  The whole idea was to replace the old flag with one that would not offend a minority segment of the population.  It’s not as if the song you quote The Maple Leaf Forever, written by an Orangeman, became the official national anthem when the Maple Leaf symbol was being promoted for Canada. It was “suppressed” (as you put it) for the same reason the old flag had to go: It was part of the ethnic British majority’s heritage.  Perhaps some day one of those Aussie flags they fly at cricket and rugby matches with the Kangaroo will do the trick for Australia’s multiculturalists!

(Desmond - if you can please go back to the ‘Toronto violence’ thread)

Posted by Matra on January 03, 2006, 04:26 AM | #

Ben Tillman:

I changed the Red Ensign entry a bit:

“white anti-genocide groups”

That’ll provoke a response!

Posted by Matra on January 03, 2006, 05:26 AM | #

Maybe Australia will adopt the Reconciliation Flag.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on January 03, 2006, 06:03 AM | #

Melba what a peach you are!  You’re so sweet to say that, honey!  But what strikes you that way isn’t me, darlin’!  It’s all the sheer masculinity exsuded by the real men who come to this site:  GW, John Ray, Phil, Martin Hutchinson, and all the rest—this is true maleness you find here, the real McCoy.  These are no whining liberal pantywaists here.  Just look at what Ben Tillman did tonight—went right over to Wikipedia and corrected that lefty language in that liberal article on the Canadian Red Ensign.  The guy’s got “cojones,” as the Mexicans say.  Men here are made of the right stuff.  If they weren’t, they’d be over at Catallaxy or some damn place for eunuchs.  As far as I myself go, honey, if there’s a masculine side to any of my comments it’s entirely thanks to you—your feminine presence in these threads brings it out in me ... without you I’d be nothing, a complete zero and no one would ever want to read any of my posts at all. 

Yes I’m married, dear ... to the most beautiful woman in the world, the one I’d been waiting for since time began but didn’t realize it.  All I knew was that when I saw her I thought it was the sun rising—accidentally mistook her face for the dawn ... thought her eyes were the break of day at first, then looked again and realized it was a woman.  It was an arranged marriage ... arranged by God.  In a little European country called Wallonia I was led to this woman, between Flanders and France, and brought her back to the States as my bride, by God’s Grace ... Amazing Grace how sweet the sound, That saved a wretch like me!  I once was lost, but now am found; was blind, but now I see.

Toodle-pip, sweetheart!  And thanks for the kind words, hun ...

Posted by Docter Petr Zygophore on January 03, 2006, 05:59 PM | #

Dear Majority Rights,
I am a constant reader of your fantastic webpage/institution.  I admire all your great writing talents and ideas, and only wish that I myself could be as bold as you in expressing my deepest feelings.
As I said, I am but a reader, but a recent topic has led me to feel that I need to post also.  Melba Peachtoast is a disgrace to this ‘blog,’ and should be prohibited from posting.  Apart from being a woman on a male-dominated site, and therefore distracting us from our, as Mr. Scrooby said, “sheer masculinity,” Ms. Peachtoast may not even be interested in our cause. I ask you, fellow men, does Peachtoast sound like an Anglo name, or just a wannabe white?  I ask you, fellow men, if such a person should be allowed on our dignified site.
Sincerely yours,
Docter Petr Zygophore

Posted by Docter Petr Zygophore on January 03, 2006, 06:12 PM | #

http://www.melbatoast.com/images/toastbox2.gif
Gentlemen, I rest my case.

Posted by Melba Peachtoast on January 03, 2006, 07:02 PM | #

Why don’t you ask the Docter what he really means by men? Is it a sneaky reference to his organization Marsupial Equality Now! , a PETA-like fringe group of filthy anarchists and antiscience activists? I know why he is attacking me. He opposes the work I have devoted myself to for the last 20 years. He calls me a vivisectionist, a placental supremacist, a murderess; he even referred to my ranch as The Island of Dr. Melba. Why, why must I suffer at the hands of ideologues and idiots? My work is crucial to the future of man and wallabee alike . . . it would be unwise to say more.

Oh, and this:
http://bugs.bio.usyd.edu.au/Mycology/images/glossary/zygomycota2.gif

Posted by Svigor on January 03, 2006, 08:42 PM | #

Lol, did everyone resolve to be weird for the new year or am I missing something?

Posted by Docter Petr Zygophore on January 03, 2006, 09:32 PM | #

Mr. “Sexual Vigor”

I fail to see the humor in our battle of the sexes.  Melba Peachtoast’s threat to society is unforgivable!! If you are going to take her side against mine, I will battle you as well.

Sincerely yours,
Le Docter

Posted by Svigor on January 03, 2006, 10:44 PM | #

Lol, no, I won’t engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.

Posted by PCA on January 04, 2006, 12:51 AM | #

To the adminstrator,

Why is the indomitable Mrs Peachtoast allowed to waste our time?

I would much rather Simon or June Gordon.

Posted by Al Ross on January 04, 2006, 02:17 AM | #

Dr Zygophore is surely a reincarnation of that well-known New Orleans intellectual giant, Ignatius J Reilly.

Posted by Andrew on January 04, 2006, 03:05 AM | #

Matra, that flag, it is missing the Half Crescent moon-To signify Islamification, as well as the Hammer and Cycle in the red part; The contribution of the Left. OOOo I am dumb, I should have kept my mouth shut, Plagiarism is a trait of the left and installing new Ideas is indeed a bad move. Someone is Photo Shop editing as we speak.

Posted by Andrew on January 04, 2006, 03:11 AM | #

Might as well include a Kangaroo with boxing gloves punching the crap out of a camel Fornicator. Bottom Right I suppose.

Posted by Calvin on January 04, 2006, 12:32 PM | #

Don’t feed the trolls guys.

Posted by Kevin on January 06, 2006, 12:55 AM | #

While I was at the Australia vs Uruguay football match (where we won!) I saw a lot of people flying flags that I have not seen before.

It was green and gold with the Southern cross and intead of the Union Jack, they had the Australian coat of arms.

I really liked that flag and would have no problem with using it (though the coat of arms is a little too complicated - might need to be simplified).

If anyone does decide to change the flag, I hope they at least stick with the colours green and gold. Too many countries have red, white and blue. Plus it feels more patriotic.

Still, the main point to remember is that we’re in the World Cup! Go the Socceroos!

Posted by seelow heights on January 09, 2006, 01:23 AM | #

More bad news from Australia. Bird hunting now banned in much of the country, but I wouldn’t be surprised if aboriginals and mohammedans get a pass. 
http://stephenbodio.blogspot.com/2006/01/sad-sporting-notes-from-all-over.html

Queensland, Australia, has permanently ended bird hunting through a regulatory ruling, joining New South Wales,the Australian Capital Territory,and Western Australia.

From the January/ February issue of Shooting Sportsman (not on line):

“ ‘This is not an appropriate activity in contemporary life in the Smart State” [sic], announced Premier Peter Beattie. The number of citizens who wrote letters opposing recreational hunting was nearly twice that of the number of licensed hunters, and when the matter went before an Animal Welfare Advisory Committee, it “advised that the likely rate of wounding was unnacceptable and consequently the level of pain and suffering through wounding would be unreasonably high.’ “

Lessons?

Ask not for whom the bell tolls…

Democracy is NOT a panacea…

Australia, beloved of the sort of neocons and liberals who believe in a mythical “Anglosphere”, is one of the ultimate nanny states… ask any Aussie of libertarian sentiments. We won’t even mention Canada.

Meanwhile in England, where despite the government freedom- minded people seem to be more active then in the Antipodes, innovative sportsmen continue to improvise. Sir Terence Clark tells me that muzzled greyhounds are being run in what are being called “trials”. Hares are driven out of a wood onto a field, and two greyhounds are slipped to “flush” them. They pursue the hares across the field to another field, where two guns await them. Since the hounds don’t do the catching, he adds, “All of this is legal within the Hunting Act”. !! Similarly, other English friends with salukis that formerly coursed have added saker falcons to the team as the ultimate catchers.

# posted by Steve Bodio @ Thursday, January 05, 2006