An Alternate Production Resource

Posted by James Bowery on October 31, 2007, 03:38 PM | #

Joined.  Thanks for the tip.  This is great stuff—particularly as the dollar plunges in value and it becomes necessary to rebuild the manufacturing base.

Posted by GT on October 31, 2007, 04:25 PM | #

After joining the Delaney’s Multimachine group be sure to check out the links page.  Instructions for building welders are found there.  Here’s a simple spot welder:

http://www.sas.org/E-Bulletin/2003-10-31/labNotesAS/body.html

Spot welding is an excellent light-manufacturing activity one can do in the garage.

Posted by 2R on October 31, 2007, 05:31 PM | #

If we could only get Americas White Nationalists and other concerned Whites to move into a sparsely populated part of the country.  One small town with enough farm land would do it.  No compounds or base camps or anything like that, just 3 or 4 thousand self-sustaining White people with their families living in and around a little town in the Midwest or Pacific Northwest.  Some dead factory town will do. 

The spark we could breath into that town would be awesome. We could run Internet based businesses and other small “craft based” industries. And when I say “craft based” I don’t mean making pencil holders out of popsicle sticks, the term “craft based” refers to small but high tech industries that use a Just-In-Time manufacturing-warehousing strategy to produce things and keep very little back-stock.  A couple “lean” production industries like this and the multiplier effect would be great enough for others to create supporting industries or services. 

The schools would be centers of Occidental Excellance where children would learn to feel pride and confidence in their own identities.  What a concept?  This concept alone would be enough for the federals to burn the town down. 

Anyway, this type of dream could be easily made into reality.  Sure, the media would make the town out to be “Hate-town” USA, while liberals and Jews would call for its firebombing but at least we could live in a safe stable environment.  Could you imagine the stir we would make by all living in the same town?  The power structure wouldn’t be able to take it.  They would have to plant some RPG’s on some one’s property because eventually other whites would want to do the same thing. 

Anyway, when I seen machines like this one I think about what 3 or 4 thousand Whites could accomplish if we had a common community with a common goal.

Posted by zusammen on October 31, 2007, 05:55 PM | #

The spark we could breath into that town would be awesome.

Briefly, until the local preacher takes notice, sees an opportunity to aggrandize himself with social activism, asks HUD for funding for a public housing project near this industrial success, then imports ten thousand inner city critters who continue to live on the dole in said housing, deal crack cocaine, murder, rob, rape and crowd out the few white workers by way of equal opportunity employment government enforcement and anti-discrimination lawsuits. The founding whites then give up and move somewhere else by selling their assets to international corporations alerted to the opportunity by the now very happy, wealthy and popular preacher of a formerly quiet small town. Sorry, but that’s how it works.

The alternative is to keep things real quiet, act like partisan survivalists whos homeland is under hostile enemy occupation littered with informants and covertly slip out of mainstream society.

Posted by James Bowery on October 31, 2007, 06:05 PM | #

Zusammen is basically correct about the response to the proposed “white town”.  The effect of the binary weapon:

1) Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964
2) The Immigration and Nationalities Act of 1965

was to the eliminate European human ecologies from the United States and all countries it influences.

Posted by GT on October 31, 2007, 06:20 PM | #

2R,

“One small town with enough farm land would do it.  No compounds or base camps or anything like that, just 3 or 4 thousand self-sustaining White people with their families living in and around a little town in the Midwest or Pacific Northwest.  Some dead factory town will do.”

A microcommunity is comprised of family and long-term friends.  In terms of population we only need seed the rural Kwa with a handful of microcommunities per thousand.  Success will attract locals to our Cause, raise living standards, promote imitation, grow the network, and expand our economic, social, and political influence. 

“The power structure wouldn’t be able to take it.  They would have to plant some RPG’s on some one’s property because eventually other whites would want to do the same thing.”

By seeding the rural Kwa we’re not placing all eggs in one basket.  We can seed hundreds, if not thousands, of communities within a few short years.  Once a toehold is established our influence will grow exponentially.

Rural Whites hunger for something like this.  It is our responsibility to spread the idea and provide the necessary leadership on the ground.

Posted by GT on October 31, 2007, 07:19 PM | #

zusammen,

“The alternative is to keep things real quiet, act like partisan survivalists whos homeland is under hostile enemy occupation littered with informants and covertly slip out of mainstream society.”

Well, of course!  At the onset racial nationalism is promoted inside the microcommunity.  To the outside we promote “free association.” Our microcommunities are comprised of family and long-terms friends.  We initially hire from within that group.  As our success is imitated locally our pool of friends expands and our microcommunity becomes part of a freely associating network of microcommunities sharing and practicing our philosophy of “free association.”

Nothing sells like success, especially if it’s affordable.  We shall not run from the local ZioXtian preacher and his proposed HUD apartment complex:

1.  We can co-opt said preacher’s White flock, one or more of his competitors, and put him out of business.

2.  We can gain control of local government, disallow the HUD complex, and simply accept the loss of Federal funds.  Many small, quality communities do this.

Posted by Alexander Thiele on October 31, 2007, 09:39 PM | #

With the plethora of machines and equipment, some used in super first class condition, available all over the country, literally being bought and sold for scrap value, it is hard, almost unfathomable to comprehend that a site dedicated to Majority Rights, and frequented by such knowledgeable commentarians would spotlight a contraption like this multi machine.

Yes it is a clever piece of work if you have nothing to do, and a limited imagination, but if you want a drill press there are thousands of machinery dealers that will practically give you one for free, yours for the taking.  You want a milling machine or a lathe?  The same applies, yours for the taking.

I thought you guys were looking to try and save the White Race.

Here, one more time, for all you fellows who have the sincere hope of doing something to help avert our total enslavement:  THE road to Imperium begins in your head.

http://www.legionofjoanofarc.blogspot.com/

Posted by GT on October 31, 2007, 11:57 PM | #

I certainly don’t object to picking up industrial-quality equipment for free.  Perhaps a retired professional or experienced hobby machinist has the knowledge, time, and resources to locate a high quality industrial lathe and accessories at an estate sale in south Florida, for example, and take it away for free or near free.

But where can an under-employed auto mechanic in Great Falls, Montana, intent on manufacturing and repairing non-precision farm equipment, for example, find an industrial milling machine or lathe for the same price, without taking several days off and having to travel to Seattle, Los Angeles, or Chicago in his rattling 1984 Dodge D250 ¾ ton pick-em up truck?

And where can this same man learn to build these machines without having to obtain an educational loan of $10,000.00 or more?

The Multimachine fills a need in rural markets comprised of under- and unemployed labor and trainees.

Posted by GT on November 01, 2007, 12:11 AM | #

A better question is:

WHY would an under-employed auto mechanic in Great Falls, Montana, intent on manufacturing and repairing non-precision farm equipment, NEED an industrial quality milling machine or lathe if the reliable and economical Multimachine and other DIY equipment are capable of accomplishing the same tasks at minimal cost?

Posted by Alexander Thiele on November 01, 2007, 12:24 AM | #

WTF are you talking about GT?

$10,000 educational loan to by used equipment?  MA.

Tell your unemployed and underemployed auto mechanic friends to borrow $30 from their Mothers and use it to buy a cd, any cd from anyone of these companies:

http://www.Centerpointe.com
http://www.Brainsync.com
http://www.hemi-sync.com
http://www.LearningStrategies.com
http://www.Innertalk.com
http://www.Southwestsubliminal.com

After they listen to some high technology brain wave alignment tools for thirty days, they will be able to go onto the Internet, do a used machinery search, and buy all the tools they could ever use for $1 a pound over scrap plus shipping.

Ask them to tell you about their success stories and maybe then you, GT, will get up the courage to try the subliminal technology for yourself.

The Multimachine does not do anything except waste everyones time.
Throw it away, its a stupid joke, a spoof.

Wake up and get real,

Posted by ? on November 01, 2007, 02:07 AM | #

Alexander Thiele,

If we are awashed by negative subliminal programming from mainstream media - and maybe we are - perhaps you could give an example of it. If you could, you would recruit far more believers in the technology, or at least in the general theory that this is happening as constantly as you claim. Surely it would be possible to decode the audio from a TV commercial, MTV hit, news broadcast, film score or whatever the medium is in which the programming is embedded to discover the message. The carrier tone, which is normally two sine waves at slightly different frequencies, would not be hard to remove using some sort of phase filter. The masking noise would be more difficult to remove but not impossible. Show us the hidden message in a broadcast saying something like “don’t work hard” or “race isn’t real” or whatever commands they are using and you will have an instant supporter right here.

I do not doubt the significance of auditory signals on the brain but you can not just claim that the media is negatively subliminally programming us every day, provide no evidence for this claim and use it as the major premise to get everyone to BUY Hemi-Sync and other CDs.

You then ridicule practical inventions such as the subject of this post.

If you know of any papers on the subject posting a link to them would be greatly appreciated. The “oh my goodness I tried [brain wave cd #4] and it’s changed my life forever” testimonials and stories about Joan of Arc listening to bells are lame, as is the “just ask this scientician - it took the ultimate modern technology to create” kind of backing that I’ve found so far. Surely you can understand why not many people here have swallowed the idea whole.

Posted by Fr. John on November 01, 2007, 02:40 AM | #

I am surprised at the naive and frankly bigoted manner in which readers of this site assume a liberal clergyman would WANT to be in a white-aware community.

What about Clergymen who are FOR the Restoration of Christendom, like myself?
One cannot have an infrastructure of like-minded families, without the spiritual ‘glue’ that ties such disparate groups together. And how to influence and encourage what might be nothing more than ‘arranged marriages,’ to keep Whites ‘pure from the world’?

The Christian church, prior to Jews infiltrating seminaries in the last decades of the XIXth Century, were THE locus/focus points of racial/cultural homogeneity.

You cannot claim a modern variant on the French revolution, with no moral or religious center. It is an impossiblity. You’ll end up with the guillotine, or the Gulag, or a combination of both.

Posted by 2R on November 01, 2007, 05:12 AM | #

The subliminal messaging that I see is the anti-White nature of our society’s media.  Even if there aren’t secret messages, like super markets used to play in the 50’s, the roles that Whites play in the media is enough.  The things that White Nationalist recognize in movies and on the news is subliminal in nature.  Before we became racially aware, we didn’t notice these things. 

Although I don’t know very much about the use of subliminal messages that Alexander wrote about, I do know about the use of something called “auto-suggestion” or AS.  AS is is used by multi-millionaires and other successful people to train their minds to work more effectively.  As many here know, we only use about 10% of our brains.  AS is a way of tapping into that other 90%.

The technique is simple.  Write down a goal that you have.  Lets say that goal is something like writing a book that sells a million copies.  You would write this goal down and every-night before bed, you would take out a piece of paper and write it again.  When you wake up in the morning the first thing you do is say the goal out loud.

Just like a person who believes their own lies, the person using AS starts to believe their goal.  This goal then becomes part of the subconscious mind and as a result, your mind takes you to your goal.  After all, we are where we are because we think we should be there.  I thought my way to the Lap Top I’m sitting in front of right now.  The idea is to think your way to your goals.  You must make your goals an obsession and must never allow any temporary failures to bring you down.  In fact, you should feel joy when failing because you’ll know never to make that mistake again. 

So how about everyone reading this, try it tonight?  Before you go to bed, write down a goal that you have for your life.  CAN YOU THINK OF SOMETHING YOU’D LIKE TO ACCOMPLISH IN YOUR LIFE!  MAYBE SOMETHING THAT’S RELEVANT TO YOU BEING AT THIS WEBSITE IN THE FIRST PLACE?  After you write it down, make sure you say it OUT LOUD 5 times.  When you lay in bed, make sure to think about you accomplishing this goal.  Think about what it will look like when this goal is accomplished.  Think about what you will be wearing on the day this goal is accomplished.  Believe that there is no question that this goal will happen.  And when you wake up in the morning, make sure to say the goal again OUT LOUD.  When walking to brush your teeth or eat breakfast, make sure to think that “this is the first day of my mission to achieve my goal.” This goal WILL be accomplished!

Posted by Maguire on November 01, 2007, 11:23 AM | #

Fr. John,

>>What about Clergymen who are FOR the Restoration of Christendom, like myself?<<

In my view we can’t have too many clergymen of the kind portrayed in Mel Gibson’s “The Patriot”.

otoh there’s not enough scaffolding and hemp rope to properly deal with the epidemic of pimps, perverts and thieves now disguised as “Christian” pastors, priests and holy men.

Maguire

Posted by Alexander Thiele on November 01, 2007, 01:02 PM | #

At the risk of being redundant… I thought the purpose of Majority Rights web page was to promote ideas that could be used to develop the ethical and moral proposition necessary to safeguard our (the White Race) ethnic genetic interests.

So… where are the ideas that will will do this?

To those who imagine their sophistication perfected with their disdain for positive subliminal technology there are three possibilities that come to mind:

1. you are a government agent, and it is your job to steer the boobs away from such things, or;

2. you are so uneducated about history and anatomy that you do not really understand the conversation, or:

3. you are like I was. 

I am so glad that someone did not walk up to me and put these super high technology brain wave alignment tools into my hands and say listen as often as you can and everything about you and everything that you do will get better by thousands and thousands of percent.  Because if they had I would have fought tooth fang and claw to hold on to my primitive ways of stumbling around.  I had to discover the technology on my own. 

Now I try to show it to you and you are the same as me… it is a very difficult situation. 

Perhaps I need to put in the link that describes what to do to get women to like you so that you can get sex off of them..  That one is not really a subliminal in the pure sense but… well maybe it really is and that will get some conversions… Hmmm Let’s see, how much can I learn?.... How much can I teach? Hmmm

Posted by James Bowery on November 01, 2007, 01:11 PM | #

Alexander Thiele misunderstands independence. 

Independence doesn’t mean that in the ordinary times one can acquire the resources one needs—it means that in much worse times than the present, one can acquire the resources one needs.

The coming hyperinflation will result in a populace whose wages have been frozen while the prices charged by their employers skyrockets, and the demand for any underutilized machine tools will skyrocket to fabricate parts that the inflated currency can no longer purchase.

His claim that machine tools are available “for the price of scrap” may or may not be true at present (although both the price of scrap and the cost of transporting mass have both already increased dramatically recently) but irrelevant.  That price alone will become vastly greater than the costs of fabricating from locally available scrap.

His poor quality “diagnosis” of our “illness” followed by leaping to a poorly validated “treatment” for our “illness” smacks of charlatanism.

Posted by ? on November 01, 2007, 01:50 PM | #

Alexander,

You’re not helping. I’m interested in this stuff too but do yourself a favour and address questions which I think most people would naturally ask regarding the “super high technoglogy brain alignment tools”. You want to discuss ideas: discuss them, or refer me to somewhere which does. Of the links provided which I have viewed all are trying to sell me the stuff. Can you see why one would be skeptical about information on a product given by an online retailer about said product?

Of course I accept that the mainstream media generally, in the content they play and the general zeitgeist they feed, is one of the most powerful tools in the enemy’s arsenal. However, you claim that there are actual, programmed, negative subliminal messages encoded within the media. As an antidote we should use our own subliminal encoding technology to align our brain and receive positive messages unconsiously and thus improve our lives and hopefully save Western Man at the same time.

2 questions

(1) (more out of interest) If the media actually has this kind of brainwashing going on (possible: I remember there was a non-auditory one in a presidential campaign some time ago where the word “RAT” flashed in between shots of an opposing candidate - but this was found out) I’d like to know about it and as the alleged practice is one of your main reasons why we should get this brain aligning technology, I assumed you might have or know where some decent evidence of this activity might be. Do you or do you not?

(2) Failing this, it is still possible to claim that the technology would be beneficial. Do you know of any good studies on the subject? Or do you think that the technology is so key to our enslavement that any kind of research into it has been buried alongside WWII revisionist studies?

I’m not a government agent. I have a working knowledge of psychology, anatomy and audio engineering, and unless the conspiracy is even bigger than I thought, I would expect during my studies to have encountered a little bit more attention to this area were it of such phenomenal importance.

Maybe one day I will get around to trying it for myself and it will work as you say. For argument’s sake though, why not try to convince me and everyone else here with some facts and some reason.

Posted by GT on November 01, 2007, 03:15 PM | #

Fr. John,

“I am surprised at the naive and frankly bigoted manner in which readers of this site assume a liberal clergyman would WANT to be in a white-aware community.”

Don’t be surprised.  The overwhelming majority can be bought.  If you’re the exception, then good for you.

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To Lurkers,

This thread has been hijacked and now reeks of the Amway-Quixtar Corporation’s take on subliminal messaging.

I haven’t time for games.  My apologies to all who were interested in this topic.

Posted by James Bowery on November 01, 2007, 04:34 PM | #

GT, your thread was the unfortunate beneficiary of being chosen to be the next one, after Alexander Thiele’s article on subliminal messges.  He apparently would have applied his diagnosis and recommended treatment to any topic that followed his—so “powerful” is his technology.

Posted by Alexander Thiele on November 01, 2007, 04:37 PM | #

GT wrote:

To Lurkers,

This thread has been hijacked and now reeks of the Amway-Quixtar Corporation’s take on subliminal messaging.

I haven’t time for games.  My apologies to all who were interested in this topic.
Posted by GT on Thursday, November 1, 2007 at 03:15 PM | #

and Alexander Thiele replies:

GT, your multi machine contraption should be on display at Popular Mechanics. 
It has nothing to do with Majority Rights. 

BTW, if your poor mechanics can not get their repairs made with the excellent equipment readily available now everywhere then they will not be able to assemble some junk at a later date and do anything good with it.  The fact that you so enthusiastically waste everybodys time with this junk shows that you need some repairs too.  Why not concentrate on converting the 3000 members of the interesting contraptions list to Majority Rights??

and ? wrote:

I’m not a government agent. I have a working knowledge of psychology, anatomy and audio engineering, and unless the conspiracy is even bigger than I thought, I would expect during my studies to have encountered a little bit more attention to this area were it of such phenomenal importance.

and Alexander Thiele replies:

B.S. if you had any knowledge about those subjects you would know that works.

But to play along with your reasoning:
Do a Google search on the subject. 
You have heard of Google before have you not?  Or is a Google search and all the results another figment of my imagination?

To the Lurkers:
You people better wake up and get with the program. 
Your enemies use this technology and they are kicking your asses all over the planet.  You must come up to their level of play or you are finished for all time.

Posted by Maguire on November 01, 2007, 05:37 PM | #

James,

Thanks for returning this on topic.  Excellent post.

“Alexander Thiele misunderstands independence.”

I don’t think he gives two hutes about it.  I looked at the websites he referenced.  He’s interested in promoting a pile of NLP and related pseudo-scientific motivational clap-trap of the type that’s been very popular with paper money commission agents, including real estate agents and mortgage brokers. 

A current scientific test for the value of Theile’s NLP motivational propaganda would be to shackle him in a deserted North Port Florida real estate sales office for 60 days with no money.  We’ll return and either find a man with a fleet of chauffered Bentleys and Gulfstream Vs on call (Theile’s come-on for promoting purchase of the motivational books and DVDs he links to); or we’ll find a rotting, bloated corpse on the floor that expired from starvation.  I know what outcome my tool steel and Babbitt alloy will be backing.

>>His claim that machine tools are available “for the price of scrap” may or may not be true at present<<

I actually follow this market somewhat.  Only real scrap needing a total rebuild is available.  Truly functional equipment is rapidly containerized and exported to Third World destinations.  If Theile was not just blowing smoke then eBay prices for functional used machinery would be much lower.  There are enough eBay paper money factors operating to arbitrage the two markets, i.e. eBay's real used industrial machinery market and Theile's imaginary one.  It's impossible to attend local liquidation auctions without running into these people. 

>>although both the price of scrap and the cost of transporting mass have both already increased dramatically recently<<

Precisely so.

>>That price alone will become vastly greater than the costs of fabricating from locally available scrap.<<

The most critical first outcome is a trained craftsman.  This is not obtainable by 'buying' with paper money either at a second hand dealer or new Chinese imports from Harbor Freight & Enco.  Study followed by work practice is the only way.

Reindustralization driven by the emergency of extreme hyper-inflation requires a solidly conceived path to avoid pitfalls and blind alleys due to lack of paper working 'capital' to 'outsource'.  With have to use knowledge, skill and locally available materials to the hyper-max.

In his M/M pdf Pat Delaney references and recommends Dave Gingery's series of books on small machine tool construction as a starting point.  I can concur with that as a Phase I, with the addition of joining the Gingery Machines Group

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gingery_machines/

and incorporating John Dannemeyer’s recommended design modifications to the Gingery 7x12 lathe.

Phase II is stepping up to a MultiMachine based on engine block parts.  Delaney’s ‘Multimachine’ is a derivative design of a ‘Universal’ type horizontal mill.

This will benefit from a much better developed foundry capability that includes real iron castings.  Outfitting a machine tool typically costs 2x - 4x of the basic tool’s new price.  Machining your own accessories is the only alternative and that means metal casting to start.

Phase III is stepping up further to large lathes (14” x 40” size) and yet larger mills with real industrial capability.  In World War II extreme need driven by an overwhelmed foundry industry proved the possibility of substituting concrete for cast iron to build most of a machine tool body.  This was sufficiently effective to even bore out and rifle 240mm cannon barrels. 

We can continue to use large scrap, plus parts made with previously completed smaller machine tools, plus concrete, plus “Field Machining” techniques to line bore and mill spindle bearings and ways.

But how to power such large industrial class equipment?  We need hundreds and thousands of h.p.  At the present time machinery of this size requires 3-phase electric motors, 3p electrical service and big installation fees followed by big monthly bills.

There is a way while staying with locally available materials and techniques that can be applied by men trained in true industrial arts.

First build this to fuel rebuilt automotive internal combustion engines:

http://www.webpal.org/webpal/b_recovery/3_alternate_energy/woodgas/fema_wood_gas_generator.pdf

and then build and attach a “lineshaft” system to power heavy factory equipment.

It’s an observed fact that factories were internally powered by this method first with steam donkeys and then with one-lunger gas engines for 150 years.  The ‘modern’ method of central station power generation, distribution and large individual electric motors only appears to last 50 years before outsourcing, off-shoring and hyper-inflationary collapse manifest themselves. 

Experience to date is demonstrating there are too many ways for parasites to leech off the central station generation and distribution concept.  That system is inherently unsustainable precisely because it promotes a huge growth of parasite communities feeding on the diverted paper money flows it enables.

And we need real sustainability, not ‘outsourcing’ that feeds parasitic growth.

Maguire

Posted by daveg on November 01, 2007, 08:27 PM | #

If you have the climate, olive trees seem like a good option - fuel AND good food.

-d

Posted by Maguire on November 01, 2007, 09:53 PM | #

Daveg,

“Short Rotation Willow Coppice (SRWC)”

http://www.walesbiomass.org/willow%20coppice.htm
http://www.qub.ac.uk/envres/EarthAirWater/dawson.htm

This offers one possibility for a long term sustainable fuel cycle for biomass gasifiers.  And it’s far more suitable for North America where land remains relatively cheap. 

Help is still available for families who are serious about escaping the Judeo-Metropolises.  One example is this beginning farmer loan program for small farmers:

http://www.fsa.usda.gov/FSA/webapp?area=home&subject=fmlp&topic=bfl

One thing is clear.  As the fuel, power and food fails - a/k/a ‘inflation’ - the massive Judeo-opolises that grew up on Standard Oil and central electric power will swiftly morph into death traps in which white families can neither survive or flee.

I think ‘New Orleans - Katrina’ is probably the final warning white people will receive on this score.  There is no cavalry that will come riding over the hill in the nick of time when the bell tolls.  And the truth is there never was such a passive service for the weak in the real Old West.  Local defense was the responsibility of local settlers, miners and railroad workers, i.e. the ‘militia’.  The relatively few U.S. Army cavalry regiments were mobile strike forces, 100% devoted to offensive operations. 

Maguire

Posted by GT on November 02, 2007, 09:39 PM | #

“But how to power such large industrial class equipment? 

“We need hundreds and thousands of h.p.  At the present time machinery of this size requires 3-phase electric motors, 3p electrical service and big installation fees followed by big monthly bills.

“There is a way while staying with locally available materials and techniques that can be applied by men trained in true industrial arts.

“First build this to fuel rebuilt automotive internal combustion engines:

http://www.webpal.org/webpal/b_recovery/3_alternate_energy/woodgas/fema_wood_gas_generator.pdf

“and then build and attach a “lineshaft” system to power heavy factory equipment.”

To drive the machine, connect the lineshaft from the biogas engine to a pulley-driven, continuously variable transmission (CVT):

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/243/cvtanimatedka3.gif

or,

Connect the lineshaft to an electrical variable transmission (EVT):

http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/7345/evtjs4.jpg

Both types provide a continuously variable ratio of drive between the input and output shafts, which will minimize the effect of a changing load on the efficiency of the biogas engine.

EVTs convert the mechanical power of the biogas engine to electricity with an electric generator, then converts the electricity back to mechanical power with an electric motor.  A three-phase converter is not necessary if one is using a single phase motor.

Posted by James Bowery on November 02, 2007, 10:53 PM | #

I recall a hard-geared CVT from a company called “Epilogics” they called the IVT or Infinitely Variable Transmission.  Their website doesn’t carry links to it anymore but I believe it is best for creating high torque by avoiding the belts. (This is from memory when I was doing some work in the late 80s with the guy at NRL who funded the laser gyro.)

Posted by GT on November 03, 2007, 12:11 AM | #

Belt construction will affect maximum torque.  In any case, significantly greater torque is available from toroidal CVTs:

http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/cvt-17.gif

I’m not aware of any CVTs using gears – not to say there aren’t any.  There is a variable toothed wheel & chain variety, which I found through Wikipedia:

http://www.barloworld-cvt.com/files/barloworldcvt/iCVTOpSmall.jpg

Posted by James Bowery on November 03, 2007, 01:28 AM | #

Here are some documents of a Nova Scotia team’s IVT construction project including a video of their first prototype being driven by an electric drill.  I’m certainly no expert on the relative merits of these contraptions.

Posted by GT on November 03, 2007, 02:52 PM | #

What we need is a general power source for an entire small factory with multiple power users. 

One thing to keep in mind about using biomass engine gasifiers for power generation is that, as a class, they don’t have good load following capability.  It takes them time to respond to increased engine demand (i.e. suction) with additional fuel gas production.  Gasifier engine systems operate best at constant speed and torque, which is why it is important to use continuously variable transmissions (CVTs).

The recyclable choices available to us from the auto industry are belt-driven or toroidal.  Belt-driven CVTs are used in small GM, Audi, and Nissan automobiles.  The toroidal version are found in mid-sized cars and small trucks.  Some information I’ve found on the Internet indicate that, in recent years, improvements in the toroidal version have led to increased use in the largest automobiles and mid-sized trucks.

CVTs will likely do the trick for us. Even very large Bridgeport mills and large lathes (20” x 60") only require 10-20 hp motors.

Check it out:

http://www.bpt.com/

Posted by Alexander Thiele on November 03, 2007, 08:26 PM | #

Anything, anything to distract, obfuscate, and run out the clock.

You guys could not be further from the truth even if you were paid for it.

This months Air Conditioning News shows a young man from China showing two white, slightly overweight, possibly NFL sports fans American sales engineers his companies photo voltaic array on top of a building that generates enough electricity to power the commercial AC as well as some other equipment and is capable of putting the surplus back into the grid.

So I accuse you fellows of being a little slow for showing your stupid contraption on this web page.  “Oh this is what you need if the economy collapses”, you cry out.  By the time your poor mechanics get the dead engine cleaned up enough to being tinkering with your junk they will have been overrun by the events you claim to be trying to shelter them from. 

To suggest that re-industrialization could occur with your multi-machine is equal to the suggestion that we can live off the land by hunting feral animals after the collapse.  In case anyone here does not already know about this fact, here it is:  If the electricity goes off for more than 30 days 100% of the population in any urban area will be dead from either starvation, dehydration, disease or bandits.

More than anything else you fellows need the brain wave alignment tools our adversaries are using to kick our asses with.  I have listed some of the best on the web page I maintain.  But your scared to try them.  What would would happen if you realized you were more capable than you presently imagine?  What would you see if you took the blinders off?  What could you do if you took the hobbles off?  I assure you that you would not put any more effort into useless contraptions.

A better project for tinkerers:
http://www.latimes.com/news/la-na-cancer2nov02,0,4741362.story?page=3&coll=la-tot-topstories

....A few weeks later, Kanzius tried to heat and distill water mixed with Morton’s salt in a test tube, which he placed into his generator. He turned on the radio frequencies and held a match to the salt water.

Flames erupted.

The radio waves had weakened the bonds that held together the elements that made up the water, and ignited the hydrogen. The results left scientists excited by the possibility of separating hydrogen—the most abundant element in the universe—from salt water to use as a fuel.......

Oh well my programming is kicking in, - stop beating a dead horse - it tells me.

Have a nice day.

Posted by Maguire on November 03, 2007, 10:13 PM | #

Thiele,

“More than anything else you fellows need the brain wave alignment tools”

You, more than anyone else I have previously encountered in my entire life, remind me of a character who stepped off a movie screen into real life ala Arnold Schwarzeneggar in “Last Action Hero”.

Except the movie you came out of is “Idiocracy”.

Posted by GT on November 04, 2007, 12:09 AM | #

Thiele, the Texas construction contractor with too much time on his hands, is back with his “Oh, so powerful” Amway “technology.”

Dead-set about trashing my thread, are you?

How’s the construction biz, Thiele?  And how’s that Amway stuff working out for you?  Despite your behavior, I might still be interested in helping you out with an order for that highly concentrated soap.

Posted by James Bowery on November 04, 2007, 07:51 AM | #

The IVT I recall was being used by an ONR project with an optimized Tesla turbine (some sort of spiral groves cut on the face of the disks IIRC) to drive a vehicle.  Turbines operate optimally at constant (high) RPM and need very low gearing IVT to direct-drive vehicles for that reasons.

I don’t know why the Dalhousie University Department of Mechanical Engineering guys chose to fabricate their own IVT rather than using one of the off-the-shelf CVT’s you cite.

PS: I found John Deere is increasingly using an IVT.

Posted by Maguire on November 04, 2007, 10:33 AM | #

“used by an ONR project with an optimized Tesla turbine (some sort of spiral groves cut on the face of the disks IIRC)”

This is intriguing.  Do you recall anything more about that project?  Approximately when was it?  I haven’t had time to do anything physically with the Tesla bladeless boundary disk turbine yet, but I am an information collector on it.

“don’t know why the Dalhousie University Department of Mechanical Engineering guys chose to fabricate their own IVT rather than using one of the off-the-shelf CVT’s you cite.”

I quickly skimmed the final 2006 report.  The general IVT design they used is from a patent originated by an engineer in Texas.  He paid for the materials costs of their project.

General Note:  The current discussion concerns updating ‘line shaft’ central shop and factory power with more recent transmission developments.  The history of technology in this non brainwave aligned dimension has seen similar examples of apparently ‘obsolete’ ‘museum’ technology reemerging as ‘leading edge’. 

One example is the multi-barreled electrically driven gun.  Small versions are popularly known as “mini-guns”.  Dr. Gatling first patented this in 1861.  He had developed this weapon to an electrically driven 3,000 rpm version by the early 1890s.  Surviving examples were then moved to Aberdeen’s ordnance museum for 50 years.  After WWII engineers at Emerson Electric and GE dusted them off and used them in initial post-war RDTE work that resulted in the 20mm Vulcan, the 30mm depleted uranium GAU-8 used on A-10 tank killers, the “Close In Weapon System” for naval ship anti-cruise missile defense and similar ‘modern’ ordnance.

As Jack Slater discovered in “Last Action Hero”, life in this dimension is far more brutal than the one he came from.  The game is played for keeps and you only get one quarter for your entire visit to the arcade.  The best advice for those with aligned brainwaves is to put their magic tickets together and get back where they belong while the portal is still open.

Posted by Maguire on November 04, 2007, 11:47 AM | #

GT,

“Thiele, the Texas construction contractor with too much time on his hands, is back with his “Oh, so powerful” Amway “technology.””

Thiele’s brainwave technology has accomplished one apparently impossible feat.  He’s managed to make Constantin von Hoffmeister appear rational in comparison.

And the stench of the AMWAY/Quixtar pyramid marketing cult grows stronger every tme Thiele opens his trap.  This, like Thiele himself, is off-topic.  But worth being aware of if only to learn to identify and avoid it.

“Brainwave alignment tools”.

Yeppers.  The old “tools business”.  Here is where an inner cabal of a few ‘Diamonds’ really made their money in AMWAY/Quixtar.  It wasn’t by selling overpriced soap through their downline organizations.  It was by force-feeding sales of overpriced ‘motivational tools’ into their downline sales forces.  These ‘tools’ were poorly produced books, tapes, convention tickets and more lately CDs and subscription websites.

In this way they contrived to loot their sheeple organizations of their day job money as well as any stray pennies anyone managed to make by exploiting family and friendships to sell overpriced consumer trash.

http://www.merchantsofdeception.com/

Spells it out in detail.  Especially worth reading by people who still fantasize the *G*ays *O*n *P*arade Party of old Pills Limbaugh can be reformed to pro-white purposes.  It was absolutely unsurprising to learn the Kingpin Dexter Yager family are eminent members of Jerry Falwall’s judeolatrous Zionist rapture cult.

The AMWAY/Quixtar cult has since gone global in the NAFTA/GATT era.  There is a solid Made In USA export:  financial pyramid fraud.  Makes you proud to be an Amerkwan, doesn’t it?

This being Sunday, let’s close with this inspirational message from Shirley Phelps-Roper of Westboro Baptist Church:

http://www.anonym.to/?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:20070729_ne.jpg

Posted by GT on November 04, 2007, 12:16 PM | #

“I don’t know why the Dalhousie University Department of Mechanical Engineering guys chose to fabricate their own IVT rather than using one of the off-the-shelf CVT’s you cite.”

Within the range of its pulleys CVTs provide a continuously variable, *positive* ratio between the line and output shaft. 

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/8190/cvtul5.jpg

IVTs provide both positive and negative ratios by adding a traditional planetary gearing system to the output of a CVT. 

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/4192/planetarygearfy3.jpg

The additional gearing extends the range of positive ratios available to the CVT and provides negative ratios as well.  This means that the direction of shaft rotation can now be reversed. 

“I found John Deere is increasingly using an IVT.”

That would be a tremendous improvement to a tractor engine’s efficiency.

Posted by GT on November 04, 2007, 01:01 PM | #

“This means that the direction of shaft rotation can now be reversed. “

Should read,

This means that the direction of output shaft rotation can now be reversed.

Posted by Alexander Thiele on November 04, 2007, 02:08 PM | #

Hmmm, let’s see…

The leader of the contrarians says:

******
“And the stench of the AMWAY/Quixtar pyramid marketing cult grows stronger every tme Thiele opens his trap.  This, like Thiele himself, is off-topic.  But worth being aware of if only to learn to identify and avoid it.

“Brainwave alignment tools”.

Yeppers.  The old “tools business”.  Here is where an inner cabal of a few ‘Diamonds’ really made their money in AMWAY/Quixtar.  It wasn’t by selling overpriced soap through their downline organizations.  It was by force-feeding sales of overpriced ‘motivational tools’ into their downline sales forces.  These ‘tools’ were poorly produced books, tapes, convention tickets and more lately CDs and subscription websites.

In this way they contrived to loot their sheeple organizations of their day job money as well as any stray pennies anyone managed to make by exploiting family and friendships to sell overpriced consumer trash. “
******

Hmmm,

So ... the subliminal technology is so powerful that it can help nobody’s sell billions of dollars of over priced soap to their neighbors, family and friends… Hmmm

I wonder, could it be configured to help normal, rational people develop a means to facilitate our American Renaissance?

No.  Not according to these experts.
Hmmm, hmmm

Posted by daveg on November 04, 2007, 03:36 PM | #

You know, honestly, it sounds like people want to live on a “euro kibutz”.  And that might not be so bad, really, if you are serious.

Just don’t forget things like good food, good clothes and good entertainment.

Posted by James Bowery on November 04, 2007, 04:07 PM | #

No, the whole “kibutz” was a government-subsidized agrarian system that didn’t come close to the robust prior examples from Europeans in terms of self-sufficiency—all of which had good food, clothes and entertainment.  There are still remnants around such as the Amish and Hutterites but the tradition stretches back to the LBT culture that built long houses—the largest freestanding structures 7000 years ago—in agrarian “compounds”.  It probably is no coincidence that the government started outlawing ethnic exclusion right at the point in the 1960s that there was a resurgence of interest in experimental mini-agrarian societies during the counter-revolution.  I’ve written about the predictable failure of those societies—mostly “communes”—before, but there is at least one group that came out of that era with an explicitly northern European bias which seems to have survived and possibly thrived—no “guru”—by explicitly advancing hybrid vigor de facto limited to northern peoples such as North Amerindians and NW Asians as well northern Europeans—although the surname of the only real contact I had with the group was Lombardic—hence northenr Italian origin.  See ISBN: 0914752170.

Posted by James Bowery on November 04, 2007, 04:12 PM | #

“LBT culture” should read “LBK culture”

Posted by James Bowery on November 04, 2007, 05:07 PM | #

Maguire,

I don’t think the circa 1991 ONR project got the funding to demonstrate the system but the components were being worked out.  The ONR (not NRL as I erroneously stated) guy promoting it was someone I met at the patents section of the San Diego library.  His name escapes me at the moment—I can probably look it up.  He was pretty excited about the optimized Tesla turbine and wanted to talk to someone about it.  He was primarily responsible for funding the laser gyro so he had at least some pull within the San Diego/Coronado Naval culture.  I don’t recall the rank he held but it was at least Commander.

What I do recall is that the optimized Tesla disks (some sort of engraved structure that looked like a rapid spiral) were designed by someone operating locally there in San Diego, and the IVT was the one then promoted by Epilogics.  The other interesting aspect of the design was the use of a Tesla pump turbocharged combustor prior to injection to the (chromium plated?) disk stack’s rim—through a de Laval nozzle IIRC.  I don’t recall if there was any regenerative cooling ala rocket engine combustion chambers.  I know from my work on rocket engine design, those nozzles can get very hot and can constrain the system but I didn’t get involved in the technical details of de Laval nozzles until 5 years later so I didn’t realize at the time how important those details were.

Posted by GT on November 04, 2007, 06:21 PM | #

Thiele,

The hydrogen from water scheme you’ve linked to is hindered by the law of conservation.  More energy is required to split and separate the water molecule into its component elements than is available from the hydrogen yield.

“I wonder, could it be configured to help normal, rational people develop a means to facilitate our American Renaissance?”

Configure subliminal messaging to help normal, rational people develop alternate systems and facilitate secession from the Kwa, then I might have something positive to say to you on another thread.  If the program retains any aspect of scientific hocus-pocus, cultism, multi-level marketing, or any other form of capitalist thievery, however, then you’ll need to revisit the drawing board.

By the way, Thiele, what are you doing to facilitate the training, licensing, and employment of young White men in engineering, technology and the trades?

Posted by GT on November 04, 2007, 06:46 PM | #

“More energy is required to split and separate the water molecule into its component elements than is available from the hydrogen yield.”

The law of conservation applies to everything, including biomass gasifiers.  The difference between gasifiers and water molecule separation is that energy resources for the former are economical and renewable.  Water molecule separation, however, requires the use of nuclear energy or expensive, non-renewable energy resources.

Posted by James Bowery on November 04, 2007, 07:17 PM | #

GT,

I’m pretty sure the Epilogics IVT is of a different configuration.  Here’s a brief description:

SAE Technical Papers

Title: A Geared Infinitely Variable Transmission for Automotive Applications
Document Number: 910407

Author(s):
Frank A. Fitz - Epilogics, Inc.
Paul B. Pires - Epilogics, Inc.

Abstract:
Epilogics, a young engineering firm in Los Gatos, CA, has developed the first fully-geared, high torque, high efficiency, infinitely variable transmission (IVT) suitable for automotive applications. To prove its torque capacity, Epilogics demonstrated a prototype of its patented transmission concept in a Class VII diesel truck in June 1989. In addition to being ideally suited as a transmission for motor vehicle drivetrains, the IVT can provide a means to efficiently and flexibly drive engine accessories independently of engine speed. Products have already been designed or built to drive alternators at a constant speed (irrespective of engine/vehicle speed) and to control cooling fan speeds independently of engine/vehicle speed. Outside of automotive applications, experimental designs of automatically adjusting manual sailboat winches and continuously variable bicycle transmissions have been implemented. Under normal operating conditions, the efficiency of the Epilogics transmission exceeds 90% as derived mathematically and corroborated experimentally. The device does not rely on traction to transmit torque and can therefore match the torque capacity of any typical gear drive. The size, weight, and cost of the device closely approximates that of a four-speed manual transmission.

Posted by GT on November 04, 2007, 07:31 PM | #

JB,

“some sort of engraved structure that looked like a rapid spiral”

Gotta leave until tonight, but my question is: Do you recall if the spiral was involved in a ratcheting process?

Posted by James Bowery on November 04, 2007, 09:24 PM | #

GT,

The referenced spiral structure was on the turbine disk, not the transmission.  I suspect it was meant to be nearly aligned with the gas flow during optimal speed operation.

Maguire,

I just got off the phone with the ONR guy with whom I haven’t conversed in 10 years.  Unfortunately, he’s one more stroke away from sudden death.  He was unable to recall the name of the Tesla turbine company.  He did however remember a couple of things:  1) The de Laval nozzle wasn’t in the design.  2) They abandoned the project due to the high temperature of the combustion gas and the resulting exotic hence expensive materials required for the disks.

This then jogged my memory a bit back to 1995 when I was starting work with Roger Gregory on the ultracentrifugal rocket engine.  It was then that I realized using a de Laval nozzle could reduce the temperature of the exhaust gas (while increasing the velocity) to the point that the proposed Tesla turbine might work with more affordable materials while becoming more efficient.

Posted by James Bowery on November 04, 2007, 09:49 PM | #

Found it:

United States Patent 4,186,554
Possell February 5, 1980

Power producing constant speed turbine

Abstract

A power producing constant speed rotary turbine in which an elongate shaft is rotatably supported in longitudinally spaced, axially aligned first and second housings that have a housing assembly disposed thereinbetween. The first housing rotatably supports a power take-off that is driven by a series of reduction gears operatively connected to the shaft. The second housing envelops an output power turbine rotor defined by a series of thin, circular, coaxially aligned, laterally spaced discs of high temperature metals or high temperature ceramic such as hot pressed silicon nitride that are operatively connected to the shaft. A compressor rotor is mounted in an intermediate position on the shaft and rotates within the housing assembly, which assembly has an air inlet therein. As the compressor rotor rotates in the housing assembly, air is discharged to first and second groups of diffuser tubes that extend to first and second volute casings. The first and second volute casings are in communication with first and second combustion tubes in which first and second burners are disposed.
Inventors:  Possell; Clarence R. (San Diego, CA)
Appl. No.:  05/845,441
Filed:  October 25, 1977

There might have been some later patents upon which the ONR proposal was based but I DO recall this patent.

Posted by Maguire on November 05, 2007, 11:02 AM | #

James,

“What I do recall is that the optimized Tesla disks (some sort of engraved structure that looked like a rapid spiral)”

Were these spirals raised, or were they engraved/milled into the rotor disks?  From your description they sound like an attempt to provide ‘blades’ for the disk.

“The other interesting aspect of the design was the use of a Tesla pump turbocharged combustor prior to injection to the (chromium plated?) disk stack’s rim”

Was this ‘compressor’ staged on the same axle as the turbine rotor, or did it have a separate shaft?

“1) The de Laval nozzle wasn’t in the design.”
“It was then that I realized using a de Laval nozzle could reduce the temperature of the exhaust gas (while increasing the velocity) to the point that the proposed Tesla turbine might work with more affordable materials while becoming more efficient.”

After everything I’ve studied on Tesla turbines, I got the same gut feel the first key to this puzzle is in nozzle design.

I’ve seen one other significant report on the subject of nozzles.  Another researcher staged six (6) nozzles at 60 degree intervals around the rotor housing.  He reported significantly improved peak torque output with this method as compared to using
a single nozzle.  His working fluid was compressed air at about 125 psi.

“2) They abandoned the project due to the high temperature of the combustion gas and the resulting exotic hence expensive materials required for the disks.”

Allis Chalmers is reported to have abandoned their 1930s 600 hp Tesla turbine mainly due to disk elongation.  Definitely another key, a design that avoids the use of lots of Unobtainium.

I do know one university, I think in Wyoming or Montana, has a current biomass gasifier/Tesla Turbine development project.  A faculty & staff project, not a student project.

Thanks for your input.

Maguire

Posted by Maguire on November 05, 2007, 12:27 PM | #

To Alexander Thiele,

I’m going to make an attempt to take you seriously.  First, GT & I, nor Mr Bowery for that matter, didn’t start researching these matters yesterday.  Nor did we just start posting about them yesterday.

Second, none of us are waiting for some CNN Special announcement that ‘Collapse’ is now underway.  I say this because many people obviously *do* expect Porky Pig to appear on screen saying “Tha-tha-tha-that’s all, folks!”

“To suggest that re-industrialization could occur with your multi-machine”

From my perspective you honestly appear to know little about fundamental industrial processes.  Do we think a “Multi-machine” is single industrial do-all like a $19.95 vegematic “as seen on televitz”?  No. 

But we expect most of the rest to emerge from it.  The screw-cutting metal lathe is THE fundamental industrial machine tool.  If you have one and knowledge you will soon have the rest of them.  If you don’t have one you won’t have dick.  Now your lack of knowledge may not be your fault, but it is definitely your problem.

Bearings, shafts, faced off flat surfaces and the other key components of other industrial machines are not “Made In China” or “Made In India”.  They’re “Made In Lathe”.  And previously “Cast In Foundry”, or run out through a rolling line.  The Foundry is so critical I’ve spent a great deal of time physically developing retorts able to prepare metallurgical grade charcoal. 

“is equal to the suggestion that we can live off the land by hunting feral animals after the collapse.”

We’re not waiting.  Why are you?  However, in the case of sourcing steel, we can indeed ‘live of the land’ for a long time to come.  North America is littered with hundreds of millions of tons of ‘stranded’ scrap steel.

“In case anyone here does not already know about this fact, here it is:  If the electricity goes off for more than 30 days 100% of the population in any urban area will be dead from either starvation, dehydration, disease or bandits.”

We wouldn’t dispute this.  I’ve told people for years they need to evacuate these multiracial death traps now.  Do you imagine you can stave off such an event by getting the population to hook their heads up to ‘brain wave alignment tools’ via listening to CDs on headphones?  Or do you believe ‘brain wave alignment’ is the magic ashlar that will finally turn negroes and mestizos into white people?  I leave it to others to decide who here is most afflicted by hubris, ego and delusions of messianic grandeur.

As for ‘Collapse’.  The concept of ‘Collapse’ being a one day orgasmic event is a Jewish apocalyptic idea.  It’s been repackaged into Peak Oil Collapse by Jewish controlled websites like theoildrum, James Howard Kunstler and related Jews.  They’re all busy peddling ‘Jewish myths and legends’, as Saul Paulus of Tarsus labeled it. 

The purpose of those websites is not to tell you how to adapt and survive for yourself and your descendants.  Their only goal is to get you hyped up enough to mouse click into their eCommerce modules.  There you can pay paper money in exchange for books and tapes written by lawyers and entertainers.  The distilled message repeats ‘Doom Doom Doom’ some more, along with ‘buy more books and CDs’.

What if, as is far more probable, ‘collapse’ is a progressive, protracted event?  Prices continue to rise while wages continue to fall.  This is not to rule out more local and even regional Apocalypses like New Orleans, or local food riots breaking out due to spot shortages arising from multiple causes. 

Maguire

Posted by Alexander Thiele on November 05, 2007, 01:05 PM | #

My comments about the benefits of prefrontal cortex stimulation and self directed subliminal programming are moved over to here:

http://majorityrights.com/index.php/weblog/comments/cultural_instauration_a_history_of_government_interest_in_subliminal_audio/#c51699

Posted by Maguire on November 05, 2007, 02:23 PM | #

Alexander,

“My comments about the benefits of prefrontal cortex stimulation and self directed subliminal programming are moved over to here”

That was a very reasonable response.  Nor will I do something like extend this topic into that one to try to drown out what you have to say on the subject.

Maguire

ps I do however reserve an unlimited right to correct Constantin von Hoffmeister whenever he derails on the subject of Russia, and especially the extent of contemporary Jewish-Zionist-Rothschild power there.

Posted by DavidL on November 06, 2007, 12:35 AM | #

Maguire

Your earlier comment about the jew/negro talent for
dissimulation reminded me of this quote from
Robert Williams book “The Ultimate World Order”:

“We of open, lie-detector faces, European stock, more
or less honest and much more gullible, we could never
invent a county-wide secret movement, let alone a
world wide one.  We are not especially interested in
trying to regiment people, in trying to undermine, deceive
and destroy other races, nations and religions.  We do not
want to be bothered with the tensions necessary to
conduct secretive, murderous underground activities.
While we do not do too good a job of practicing the Golden
Rule, even when not under alien influence, still we do idealize
the live-and-let-live philosophy.  And because we are more
or less honest, and generally incapable of secretive cunning
and scheming on a sustained and organized scale, we are sitting
ducks for those who do conduct such operations.  Our strength
is in our temperament.  Nordics in their own environment, can
get along with hardly any laws and law enforcement bodies.
But our temperament also is our weakness; for we can be
snared into wars and suicidal movements without ever suspecting
the existence of a trap.

What you said about a series of collapses makes sense - the
boiling frog analogy.

I see many folks being herded into the gold market.  too be a trap ?  Commodities are volatile.

What are some key items people might want to stock for
future barter - guns/ammo, tools etc ?

Posted by Maguire on November 06, 2007, 12:54 PM | #

DavidL,

“I see many folks being herded into the gold market.  too be a trap ?  Commodities are volatile."

Ah… The Red/White/Blue Patriotard favorite, gold hoarding.  Amazing how these birds can all condemn Franklin D. Roosevelt as the Anti-Christ in one breath and then urge gold hoarding in the next.  I think they have to be diagnosed as learning disabled.

http://www.the-privateer.com/1933-gold-confiscation.html

This is FDR’s Executive Order 6102 of April 5, 1933.  This decreed the forced sale of all gold bullion and monetary gold coins at $20.50 paper Federal Reserve dollars per ounce.  Shortly afterwards the paper dollar was revalued to $35 per ounce, internationally.  The moment gold becomes viable again as a primary medium of exchange you’ll see another confiscation order backed by armed gangs - “‘Scuse me Sir!” - I meant to say lawyers, ADL-trained police and every patriotic, moral and Judeo-Christian religious reason imaginable.  Our lovable ZOG is a jealous god and tolerates no financial rivals.

As Machiavelli observed, gold can’t always get you good soldiers but good soldiers can always get you gold.

“What are some key items people might want to stock for
future barter - guns/ammo”

I won’t give advice on weapons in international forums.  Many of our international kinsmen are legally prohibited by their genocidally bent occupation governments from owning obvious means of self-defense. 

The first key item to ‘stock’ is at least 5 acres of land with a dependable fresh water supply.  At this time it’s best to hoard yourself and your loved ones on it permanently.  About 150 miles from the nearest multiracial megapolis death trap is far enough.  On balance the marauders’ fuel tanks will go dry before it occurs to them range so far afield.  The few who struggle through will be hungry, exhausted, have blistered feet and will most likely be sick with amoebic dysentery from drinking out of ditches.  The Battle of Gretna Bridge during the New Orleans Katrina campaign shows how easy defense is once ZOG’s overstructure collapses. 

“tools etc ?”

Now here is where precious metals hoarding can do some good.  The trick is you have to engage in knowledge and skill hoarding along with it.  This sub-topic is worth spending a few days on to develop an intelligible list.

Maguire

Posted by onlooker on February 23, 2008, 07:14 PM | #

Planning for the inevitable.

http://www.backwoodshome.com/articles2/duffy110.html

Posted by Laurel Loflund on March 29, 2008, 06:54 PM | #

Amen to Dave Duffy’s article. Thanks for posting it, onlooker.

God bless,
Laurel

Posted by Miller on October 07, 2008, 11:55 AM | #

Great article,
Thanks for sharing it with us.

@GT:  Good link on how to build a welder… I was looking for something just like that.