Ben Stein’s Documentary “Expelled”
This weekend my wife and I saw the documentary movie “Expelled.” It stars Ben Stein, trying to show the heavy hand of scientific Darwinists in suppressing any scientists that do not agree with the modern synthesis. That is, suppressing any alternative to Darwinism’s rejection of intelligent design (creationism). How intolerant is science to intelligent design? From watching the movie not much—Stein only covers a couple of examples, spending most of the movie showing him walking from one campus or office to another.
The primary premise in the movie is that the simplest organisms that first evolved on earth are far too complex and statistically could not have been created from the primordial soup without a designer. The purpose of Stein’s movie seems to be not so much against science, as to show that there is a god because life needed a designer to even begin the process of evolution. And why is such an intelligent person like Stein taking on this issue? I can only speculate, but it seems to be part of the Neocon’s strategy to maintain the guiding hand of the prophets (primarily the Jews), the administrators like Bush and other government officials, and the masses who need religion in place of open intellectualism. That is, the masses do not need the truth, but need a sustaining dogma to follow blindly where the Neocons lead them.
He talks with Richard Dawkins about his belief in God. At one point Dawkins points out that the intelligent designers could be very intelligent aliens from another planet that “seeded” life on earth. It seems an easy way out for educators, who may be forced to teach intelligent design, to assume that it means that aliens and not some deity was the intelligent designer, as a matter of scientific parsimony.
The absurdity of this movie however is that Stein focuses on a very narrow area of academic intolerance when there are far more egregious examples of political correctness and outright oppression using state sponsored dogma. In every Western country, anyone who questions the details of the Holocaust is harassed, censored or imprisoned for research that does not conform to the Holocaust dogma. Likewise, scientists who study behavioral and cognitive differences between various races or ethnic groups, and dare to reveal academic research that shows real and innate differences between races is subject to censorship and dismissal in far greater numbers than the handful of academics who advocate intelligent design. Stein never ventures into these other areas of academic censorship, leading me to assert that academic freedom is not what stein is objecting to. He simply wants to make the little people believe that intelligent design is a viable hypothesis because he wants to make sure that the masses maintain their religious faith.
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Thanks for the review and saving the rest of us the time for something else.
I believe Ben’s dad was Herb Stein, a noted Economist, who worked for at least one
Republican President and maybe the FED. He was in the same vein as Milton Friedman-
pro Monetarist.
So along with the other topics you mentioned he should cover in a documentary form
we will not see any effort made to expose the financial shenagins his kind are playing
with the rest of mankind.
Thanks again.
Religious white Euro-Americans having been itching to make this kind of movie for a long time. If nothing else, we can take away from this the fact that it took an orthodox hollywood Jew [Ben Stein] to amass the resources needed to make it happen.
Posted by skeptical on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 at 01:03 AM | #
Why is Stein interested in ID? The traditionalist conservative Lawrence Auster enlightens us.
Auster:"David Klinghoffer at NRO discusses one of the themes of Stein’s film: the profound roots of Hitlerism in Darwinism.”
Klinghoffer:
The Darwin-Hitler connection is no recent discovery. In her classic 1951 work The Origins of Totalitarianism, Hannah Arendt wrote: “Underlying the Nazis’ belief in race laws as the expression of the law of nature in man, is Darwin’s idea of man as the product of a natural development which does not necessarily stop with the present species of human being.”
The standard biographies of Hitler almost all point to the influence of Darwinism on their subject. In Hitler: A Study in Tyranny, Alan Bullock writes: “The basis of Hitler’s political beliefs was a crude Darwinism.” What Hitler found objectionable about Christianity was its rejection of Darwin’s theory: “Its teaching, he declared, was a rebellion against the natural law of selection by struggle and the survival of the fittest.”
John Toland’s Adolf Hitler: The Definitive Biography says this of Hitler’s Second Book published in 1928: “An essential of Hitler’s conclusions in this book was the conviction drawn from Darwin that might makes right.”
In his biography, Hitler: 1889-1936: Hubris, Ian Kershaw explains that “crude social-Darwinism” gave Hitler “his entire political ‘world-view.’ ” Hitler, like lots of other Europeans and Americans of his day, saw Darwinism as offering a total picture of social reality. This view called “social Darwinism” is a logical extension of Darwinian evolutionary theory and was articulated by Darwin himself.
In a recent exchange with Auster, the following questions were posed.
Q:Do Stein, Klinghoffer, Arendt and Auster suggest a link between Darwinism and David’s sacred war of extermination against the Amalekites? Was David’s belief founded on an underlying, crude, might-makes-right, social Darwinism?
Auster’s reply:
“Another pathetic anti-Semite loser, unable to grasp any argument, or to rise above yourself and do anything to protect your country from the vast forces that threaten it, because all you can see is the Jews, the Jews, the Jews.
Don’t waste your time writing to me again, because your e-mail won’t get to me. “
Posted by Desmond Jones on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 at 02:22 AM | #
"That is, the masses do not need the truth, but need a sustaining dogma to follow blindly where the Neocons lead them. “ (-MN)
As soon as I saw the previews for this movie I knew that this is what it was all about. In fact, if we look to the father of Neocon thought-Leo Strauss-we find the idea of creating myths for the people to follow. Strauss believed that the liberal materialist culture was self destructive and that the people needed to believe in myths for order to be maintained. The two most effective myths for the common folk was religion and the belief in the greatness of America.
This is why the Neocons will always talk about America “being a force for good in the world.” And how America has “liberated the world from Nazism, Fascism, Communism, and terrorism.” I’m including a link to a documentary called “The Power of Nightmares” which explains this point in detail.
Link: http://www.archive.org/details/ThePowerOfNightmares
The most important point you make is how the Neo’s really don’t care about academic freedom. The biggest “champion” of academic freedom-David Horowitz-used to be a white hating Black Panther until the blacks started supporting the Palestinians. Now he pretends to care about academic freedom when its obvious that his only concern is to shut up the leftists-which he helped create-who dare to talk about Israel.
“Another pathetic anti-Semite loser” (-Shabbos Goy Auster)
What’s most disturbing about goy-hack-Auster is he shows more anger for comments which he considers to be “anti-semitic” then he does for comments which are obviously anti-White. I noticed the same thing for goy-hack-Hannity. His panties get into a knot when someone even mentions the Jews but is pretty much silent if something is said offensive about White Euros. This is effective training for the “great Americans” listening who learn that it is their scared duty to react when people “persecute” the Jews but no big deal if someone attacks Whites.
This movie is purely intended to confuse the white working and middle classes as to who the real enemy is. However, I must admit that like the Neocons, I have almost no faith in the minds of the masses either.
Posted by 2R on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 at 03:47 AM | #
just saw Expelled; the fact that Ben Stein isn’t trying to win any popularity contests helps to validate his message… i gather that his goal is to promote free thought, especially more thinking about the worldviews that drive American academia
Sometimes a simple explanation for a complex social phenomenon is best. Let’s face it, Charles Robert Darwin is about the only white European or European-origin Christian writer, scientist, hero, or discoverer in the pantheon of Western Civilization left for school children to look up to.
My hero, George Washington, a founder of our nation and a man who turned down a crown at the end of the great rebellion, and rejected the temptation of the presidency for life, has been taken from our calendar. Abraham Lincoln’s legacy is disputed. All of our other heros have been made the public objects of scorn and loathing, and our children are told their ancestors were evil men and women.
The great scroll in the sky rolls down to show us the Big Three: two authentic frauds, Marx and Freud, along with one honorable man, Charles Robert Darwin, whose adventurous life in the first half of the 17th Century qualifies him for deep respect and admiration. We need to defend his character, his consistency, and his honor, whether we believe in his theory or not. Even Wikipedia says that, in recognition of Darwin’s pre-eminence, he was buried in Westminster Abbey.
Really, folks, Darwin’s the last untainted hero we have whom the Ben Steins of the world have failed to strike down. It’s just his turn to go.
Posted by Bo on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 at 06:25 PM | #
i gather that his goal is to promote free thought, especially more thinking about the worldviews that drive American academia
Yet it is academia that only takes a very superficial view of Darwin. What exactly is he challenging here? Mainstream academia does not accept genetic racial differences outside of medicine. Take out the ID religiosity and add in a little bit about civil rights and minorities and you’ll have something that left-wing academics will swoon for!
Posted by Darren on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 at 08:06 PM | #
The attack on Darwin is not new.
Posted by Desmond Jones on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 at 08:12 PM | #
Falwell, Hagee, now Ben Stein, what strange bedfellows doeth, Judeo-xianty, make.
Make sure the masses, “keeps their minds right”, from, ( Cool Hand Luke).
Posted by torgrim on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 at 10:25 PM | #
You would think that the elites would desire a highly educated scientific minded populous? Instead, the elites are just importing the scientific thinkers. For the white population, its better to teach “tolerance” and “anti-racism” so they don’t mind the new technocratic elite who are replacing them.
This is why the elites don’t ever fix the schools. Its better to waste money making sure that negro’s receive sociology degrees than to create a system which will produce scientific thinkers. I’d love for someone to do a study that measured how much time is allotted to math and science today in High school compared to 50 years ago?
Today’s kids are much too busy learning about “oppression” than to learn something useful. So the education system is purely a method of teaching white kids to hate themselves and to accept race-replacement. If anyone thinks differently, ask yourself how the richest country in the world-with a population of 300 million-can’t produce enough engineers? This is obviously intentional.
Posted by 2R on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 at 11:50 PM | #
If anyone thinks differently, ask yourself how the richest country in the world-with a population of 300 million-can’t produce enough engineers? This is obviously intentional.
The Indians and Chinese who come over on H1B or who get the outsourcing contracts will work for less than an American. That is part of the reason why there is demand to bring them in as opposed to using domestic labor.
I don’t think the schools are broken. We have lots of intelligent white kids doing whatever it is best suits their abilities and desires. The reason for not enough engineers is simply that not everyone wants to be an engineer. If there is such a need for more engineers, then the pay & perks should be increased to reward people for entering into those fields (but instead, we can just use a third world labor pool and cut costs in the process).
Posted by Darren on Thursday, April 24, 2008 at 12:56 AM | #
2R or anyone else
When you have a moment, check out the website below.
Gatto’s book “The Underground History of American Education” was the first
of many books I’ve read in the last 3 years in order to grasp who is trying to
arrange our lives for the personal advancement of their own. I do not agree
with all he has to say but I do agree with most. Enjoy.
http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/chapters/index.htm
Posted by DavidL on Thursday, April 24, 2008 at 01:01 AM | #
DavidL, books like that mean nothing if they exclude race. If they exclude frank discussion of race they’re written for ostriches, ones with plenty of loose sand lying around that they can stick their heads into.
Posted by Fred Scrooby on Thursday, April 24, 2008 at 01:39 AM | #
If anyone thinks differently, ask yourself how the richest country in the world-with a population of 300 million-can’t produce enough engineers? This is obviously intentional.
The answer to this conundrum is to reject the premise, which is that America doesn’t produce enough engineers. The truth is that we have, and we can, produce the requisite number of skilled professionals, the “problem” is that these positions can be filled by cheaper minds from overseas (i.e. India and China). When CEOs and government beauracrats declare that “America isn’t producing enough engineers and/or scientists” they are merely apologizing for those who want to increase their bottom line via immigration.
India and China produce the cheapest minds while Latin America produces the cheapest backs, any proclamation which deviates the focus from this essential truth is probably Orwellian.
Posted by skeptical on Thursday, April 24, 2008 at 03:35 AM | #
I wonder what do you guys think of this book
http://www.anthonymludovici.com/ri_pre.htm
The last page sums up the whole book
http://www.anthonymludovici.com/ri_2-810.htm
A religion based on Darwinism anyone.
Posted by Dan on Thursday, April 24, 2008 at 10:01 AM | #
I think many on this board, are missing the point entirely.
IF Stein is a “jewish fifth columnist” at least he is opening the door to discussion of a topic VERBOTEN at the academic level. As a sometime college prof, I can tell you this philosophical item is #1 on the ‘hate list’ of those ‘open minds’ who like to prate about ‘diversity’ and ‘collegiality.’
If the reason for Stein’s film is to draw people to see the ‘evils of Hitlerism and their racist nonsense’ all one has to do, in light of that fact, is to listen to Rev. Wright of Trinity UCC, and look at Obama. All one has to do is to look at Rabbi Schneerson, and the Lubavitcher dogma, and simply, clearly, quietly, compare and contrast. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander, as they say…
THEN LOOK AT THE RECORD OF BUTCHERY, and say, which is MORE EVIL- a supposed ‘six million’ or a VERIFIABLE 100+ million?
If the reason Auster goes ballistic when his race is confronted for their complicity as the DEICIDES, one should begin to question his ‘christian credentials,’ or his sanity. If he IS a traditional “Anglican” they have auricular confession. Why has no one asked his parish priest, if he is still suffering GUILT as a member of a RACE that Killed Christ, has he not CONFESSED and REPENTED OF IT?
Why is Auster not like Brother Nathanael Kapner over at http://www.realjewnews.com/ ?
Clearly, Kapner is ‘free at last, free at last, Thank God Almighty, he is free at last’ - and is not afraid, or CONCERNED about ‘telling it like it is!
Auster, are you a MARRANO?
Once one sees that the Evolutionary wagon is filled with liberals, jews, feminazis, and other flotsam and detrius, race awareness is the next logical, natural, healthy step. IT was in my case!
So, GO, Ben, GO! I heard Stein talk on a Christian talk show. Whatever the reason he is doing it, it is big news in Evangelical circles. What with Obama being shown for the Black racist bast*rd he is, perhaps REAL Christianity like the SOUTH once believed and practiced, might just become popular again.... and then, watch out Brown v. Board. They repealed Prohibition; they can repeal ANYTHING.
Posted by Fr. John on Thursday, April 24, 2008 at 06:26 PM | #
"Once one sees that the Evolutionary wagon is filled with liberals, jews, feminazis, and other flotsam and detrius, race awareness is the next logical, natural, healthy step. IT was in my case!” (-Fr John)
I think its just the opposite. Once we can stop believing in imaginary people living in the clouds, or in the faith of multiculturalism, we can start living for the only thing that matters; RACE. It didn’t take me long after becoming a agnostic to realize that the only thing that matters is RACE. And If I were to believe in a religion, it would be one of the Germanic Pagan types. Much more healthy for the mind, no “original sin” or “turning the other cheek” or “just looking at a women with lust is a sin.”
Posted by 2R on Thursday, April 24, 2008 at 06:58 PM | #
Fred Scrooby wrote:
“DavidL, books like that mean nothing if they exclude race.”
Well, Fred, that may be a little harsh. True, the book does not talk about race, but it does cover big business, social and economic power struggles, socialists in America and Europe, and religion and schooling pretty well. IIRC, it may even have a bit about the Frankfurt School machinations in there.
Another good writer on Education is Richard Mitchell. No race coverage, but a helpful (and entertaining) guide to how our education system became the screwed-up mess it is today. Just another piece of the puzzle.
Richard Mitchell’s free newsletters and books:
http://www.sourcetext.com/grammarian/index.html
If a thoughtful person can make it this far through these three or four books, realizing who provided the money and the theory is but a step.
Posted by Rusty Mason on Thursday, April 24, 2008 at 11:02 PM | #
Once we can stop believing in imaginary people living in the clouds, or in the faith of multiculturalism, we can start living for the only thing that matters; RACE. It didn’t take me long after becoming a agnostic to realize that the only thing that matters is RACE.
Unfortunately, your own experience is not the norm. The vast majority of people in formerly religious societies such as Quebec, Ireland, and Spain, went straight from Christianity to secular leftism and from the highest birthrates in the West to the lowest. Is it a coincidence that unprecedented altruism towards out groups developed after the decline in birthrates? Belief in the supernatural was replaced with faith in multiculturalist, feminist, and environmentalist quackery, and the inherent goodness of all humanity. Though things could certainly change in the decades to come, the evidence so far is that secular societies are less adaptive. A secular society desparate for something to believe in falls for every fad there is. Fads are usually driven by power - media, universities, etc. WNists have no power whilst race replacers have it in spades. So far no Western society has successfully replaced religion with an equally adaptive replacement.
Posted by Matra on Friday, April 25, 2008 at 02:50 AM | #
"So far no Western society has successfully replaced religion with an equally adaptive replacement.” (Matra)
Unforchanetly I think you’re correct. That’s why a racialist elite must develop with the proper perspective. The masses can think anything they wish. Maybe Stein’s movie is to our benefit? Maybe the masses should remain Christian, if that’s what it takes for them to reproduce?
However, did religion just go away or did something happen to make people feel less religious? IOW, is becoming less religious a product of post industrialism? Did people become less motivated to have kids because thy didn’t need the farm hands anymore?
Is there a way to make people have more kids in a post industrial society? What about giving loans to families and waving a quarter of the principal for every kid they produce? Four kids would mean a free house.
Posted by 2R on Friday, April 25, 2008 at 09:21 AM | #
2R-
Either you are not concerned with direct insults, or you are oblivious to your comments in the last two posts!
“Once we can stop believing in imaginary people living in the clouds, or in the faith of multiculturalism, we can start living for the only thing that matters; RACE.”
I find this grossly insulting as a Christian, a cleric, and a man finishing one doctorate, before beginning another advanced degree. I find your condescension the height of hubris. At least I, as a sinful man, acknowledge I am not omniscient, contrary to some!
And then you state this cr#p:
“That’s why a racialist elite must develop with the proper perspective. The masses can think anything they wish. Maybe Stein’s movie is to our benefit? Maybe the masses should remain Christian, if that’s what it takes for them to reproduce?”
Who died and made you Fuehrer? For that is what this POV is. Sheer, unadulterated Nazism- of the clearest, most mind-warping paganist kind. Such an ideology is unbecoming to white nationalists; (who have not thought through the perception they engender, who, when donning antiquated costumes, find they have NOT received a positive response, on those brainwashed by fifty years of zionist propaganda) such an ideology as you laud, is to those who are truly, honestly engaged in a struggle for their race and their people, a reminder of failed experiments.
I, for one, found my racial solidarity in the pages of Holy Scripture, in the actions of Europe when she WAS Christian, and can only find a ‘final solution’ if we actively, willfully, joyfully adopt a revived Christendom, rather than your ‘mess of potage.’ Upon hearing such statements, all I can see, is a JEWISH face leering back at me, when I look into statements such as above.
Are you a Deicide? Are you a ‘fifth columnist’ on this board for the Christ-killers?
Such talmudic tactics are nowadays as transparent, as they are despicable. The wall of Talmudic supremacists is cracking, and soon will be split, ‘from top to bottom’ as honest Christians awaken from their “babylonian captivity’ of multicultural marxism.
If, OTOH, you truly believe your own propaganda, then of all people you are the most deluded.
For no one is as psychotic and insane as a liberal- either a National socialist, or an International Socialist.
They are merely two sides of the same false coin.
Christus Vivat.
Christus Regnat.
Christus Imperator.
Posted by Fr. John on Friday, April 25, 2008 at 02:23 PM | #
THEN LOOK AT THE RECORD OF BUTCHERY, and say, which is MORE EVIL- a supposed ‘six million’ or a VERIFIABLE 100+ million?
A supposed five million.
The allegation of Jewish historians (Reitlinger, Hilberg, Bauer) is five million dead Jews.
Posted by ben tillman on Friday, April 25, 2008 at 04:01 PM | #
If you say that in France, Ben, you’ll go to jail.
Posted by Fred Scrooby on Friday, April 25, 2008 at 04:04 PM | #
That’s after you get beaten to a pulp first by Jewish thugs.
Posted by Fred Scrooby on Friday, April 25, 2008 at 04:05 PM | #
Here’s what they did to Faurisson (see photo):
Posted by Fred Scrooby on Friday, April 25, 2008 at 04:10 PM | #
Fr. John,
“Sheer unadulterated Nazism of the clearest most mind warping paganist kind.”
Fr. why when detailing the history of Nazism and it’s “mind warping” control, does one always have to add the Jewish caveat “paganism” with National Socialism?
This is how, today, the Judeo-Christian, neo-con agenda is spinning history.
The spin is usually, that the Church or the “pagans” were “in bed” with that regime. I believe the facts show that National Socialism was a secular entity, with a cult of personality at the front of the organization. In some ways, taking a model from the Roman Empire, not the Roman Republic.
Respectfully,
Torgrim
Posted by torgrim on Friday, April 25, 2008 at 08:42 PM | #
Yes, those damned Jews, trying to destroy science. When will people open their eyes and realize that every Jew in history has been working to destroy Christians out of bitter jealousy of our straight nose? We must act quickly, before science becomes completely destroyed and they get on to step 2 - destroy mathematics!
Posted by PALESTINE FOREVER on Friday, April 25, 2008 at 11:11 PM | #
Matra: So far no Western society has successfully replaced religion with an equally adaptive replacement.
An article which touches on this issue:
Today, more and more people are wondering about what kind of religiosity could stop the demographic decline of the western world and will thereby maintain the former reproductive success of the people in the northern hemisphere. It is obvious that atheism in the course of history has never had this quality. On the contrary, it has caused the described demographic decline. It does not even seem very plausible that atheism will achieve the quality to stop demographic decline in the future. (- Or will possibly such a fictitious world as the one shown in the famous novel “Brave new world” by Aldous Huxley come true by establishing such inhumane and apparently psychologically nearly impossible “reproductive regimes”?)
As far as I know at the moment, there is no scientific evidence in literature that shows a possibility by principle to enhance fertility rate of people in modern western societies by a modern religiosity of the 20th century and not only by the ancient forms of religiosity of traditional world religions. These ancient forms have an above-average reproductive success today; because their successful “group evolutionary strategies” have been selected many centuries ago. And maybe the inborn psychology of the ethnicities in the western world have also been adapted to these ancient forms of religiosity in some way or other by living thousand years under their “reproductive regime”. This is also assumed for the “Natural History of Ashkenazi Intelligence”. (5) We can hypothesize about the decline of the frequence of “warrior genes” (MAOA-genes) or ADHS-genes in ethnicities of the northern hemisphere because of the more peaceful “reproductive regime” of Christianity, for example.
But most people in science at least do not assume, think, know or hope (6), that these old “reproductive regimes”, these old “group evolutionary strategies” of the traditional world religions or of Judaism are of that kind of religiosity that will be of reproductive success for modern secular societies in the western world in the future. Atheism does also not seem to be a reproductive advantage to its adherents. There fore, could it be possible to establish a new religious “group evolutionary strategy” in modern societies, that is more successful in reproduction than atheism?
Methods
Is there any group that could be an example for this? A glimpse into literature about people following an “anthroposophic lifestyle” could be a hint. Anthroposophy was founded by Rudolf Steiner (1861 - 1925). He was an admirer of Friedrich Nietzsche and Johann Wolfgang von Goethe (7) but also in a way of Jesus and Buddha. Today, people following an “anthroposophic lifestyle” can be found in Western Europe (Western Germany, the Netherlands, Switzerland, Sweden, Great Britain) as well as in the United States and Australia. In Germany they run the most private schools in which they practise the so called “Waldorf-education”. In Western Germany there are about 200 schools with 80.000 children.
[. . .]
What can be said about the results all in all? Birth rates of church-members with Waldorf-education seem to mirror the birth rates of church-members of Germany as a whole. They are also slightly above the average.
But the most remarkable result is: Non-church-members with Waldorf-education seem to have birth rates not very much below birth rates of church-members. And because non-membership of churches in this group is above the average compared to the whole of Germany, the birth rate of people following an anthroposophic lifestyle which is slightly above the average cannot only be caused by the church-members in their rows. The non-members among them also have birth rates slightly above the average compared to Germany as a whole - and at least compared to non-members of churches of the whole of Germany.
[. . .]
And, to my mind, it is of the utmost importance to underline again that this modern belief and religion Albert Einstein and many other people and scientists have adhered to – or that is not refused by people like Richard Dawkins has also the quality - by principle - to establish a “reproductive regime” that seems to be necessary for the demographic survival of the western world.
However, the birth rate of the Waldorf-educated group as estimated in this article (1.9) is still below replacement level.
Rusty Mason
Thank you - very well said.
Nice to read an intelligent comment for a change.
Posted by DavidL on Saturday, April 26, 2008 at 12:00 AM | #
DavidL is also a big fan of George Bush’s “No Child Left Behind.” I feel certain of it. To him it makes perfect sense.
Posted by Fred Scrooby on Saturday, April 26, 2008 at 01:39 AM | #
Fr. John,
I’m sorry if I offended you. I would respond to your post but I stopped arguing about religion with Christian White racialists. The bottom line is I am on you side for the issue that we come to this website for; that being RACE. Just as our enemies try to bait us and separate us with the whole Northern-Southern European argument, the same is possible with religion. As more White people wake up to the race-replacement situation, you can sure that our enemies will try to divide us over religion. WE CANNOT LET THIS HAPPEN!!!
I assume that you’re Roman Catholic? If so, than I hope that you spend some time trying to think of how racialism can be introduced into Catholicism. You would probably say that “its already there.” If this is the case, then I hope you’re able to make the racialist-Catholic argument to your flock. White racialism must be made accessible to Christians (both RC and Protestant) because we can be sure that the mainstream Pastors will be “damning” us when we start attaining power. We’re going to need well spoken, well written people who can provide leadership from all faiths and walks of life.
Again, I’m very sorry if I offended you. I realize that most of your above post is the result of you being extremely upset by my words, so I see no need to answer such accusations. If you care about the interests of the White race, then I see you as my brother despite your faith. We’re entering a very serious time in the history of our race and we need not get distracted. Let us go forward to victory and prepare a future for White children in which they can fulfil the destiny which was allotted to them by the creator of the universe.
Posted by 2R on Saturday, April 26, 2008 at 03:19 AM | #
2R ("Two Rings") was a first-rate thinker when he used to post here a while back. Glad to see that hasn’t changed one iota.
Posted by Fred Scrooby on Saturday, April 26, 2008 at 01:05 PM | #
There are actually alot of flaws with Darwinism that have been hidden and denied to us in our public schools. For one, they don’t explain how we came about with all of the different elements of the periodic table. Second, somehow our planet and others form without atmospheres and then after it rains for millions of years a microbe bacteria magically forms by the friction of the water on the rocks? This hasn’t been done in a lab? Why would it take millions of years? Maybe because it can’t be proved false that way? Anyway, third, circular reasoning when it comes to dating terra and fossils, judging each ones age by the age of the other to prove one or the other. Then there is the fact that carbon dating had been done on freshly killed seals and dolphins that somehow come up as three nd hlaf to 27,000 years old after dating was complete. Fossilized trees going through different supposed prehistoric levels of terrain etc..etc.. the list goes on and on and it does becoming a bit shocking when you look into these things. And for all out there reading this I’m not a x-tian fundamentalist at all and I’m not preaching anything. What I am doing is trying to point out that after reviewing several facts that have been denied us Darwinism becomes complete nonsense from begining to end with the exception that change can happen within a spieces or race if you will, but changing into a different species then to a different one and then again another over millions and millions of years… Dogma nonsense.
Darwinism is a collectivist orientated religious creation myth seemingly (to me anyway) to help out Marxists with their yearning to crush all the churche’s power and religious morally based beliefs in European and than non-European peoples. Look at all the killing the Marxists did to normal people of the world.
Again, I am not that big on creationist arguments interferring with science because it’s religion and based on faith, but so is Darwinism. I’m going to put down a name ‘ Kent Hovind’ he is a creationist but the articles and documents he puts forward to contradict the simple evolutionary theory we’ve all been taught to believe in is impressive and worth taking in.
It doesn’t mean we are all equal as humans by any means, it just shows how dishonest our political system is in favor of the Darwin dogma. And honestly when our governments have taught us so many lies from craddle to death whether its about ww1,ww2, Kennedy’s assination, racial reality, our current war, waco, the twin towers (more than likely) and taught us to basically hate our selves for being white, why not look into this one as well it is a pillar for them against everyone. Also, there seems to be one interesting theory that chllenges evolution quite well, the idea that the universe we see is more or less based on electrical reactions rather than gravity. Evolution is not part of this, scientific reactions of protoplasm can be made to emulate the same results we see in our galaxy, solar system and universe and we basically got to get over our snobbery and educations when dealing with these issues that is one of the reasons we all have the problems we have today. Challenge the belief rather than talk down to each other. Haven’t we all been talked down to enough for thinking the we do? ‘Thunderbolts of the Gods’ is a book and documentary on this. It is pretty interesting, who knows?
Oh, and yes I see the neo-con connection in being against Darwinism, but the only reason they’re leaning this way now is because belief in evolution is more and more a dying cause and they want to be on the forefront of it as always to seem like they are the good guys to most again. They’ll play up the Moses thing soon enough but whatever they do shouldn’t matter. We are wasting our time debating religious dogma if we are trying to save our people from being erased from this world. We need to be a bit more open to white X-tians they are most of our people after all and nothing will every change until we get over the above thou snobbery and start listening to some of their arguements, I’ll give Hovind credit he really did impress me.
Posted by Joel Godfrey on Sunday, April 27, 2008 at 07:02 AM | #
"James”, you funny bastard, I just can’t stay mad at you. No, thats a lie, screw you!
Posted by Captainchaos on Sunday, April 27, 2008 at 09:56 AM | #
“Darwinism is a collectivist orientated religious creation myth seemingly (to me anyway) to help out Marxists with their yearning to crush all the churche’s power and religious morally based beliefs in European and than non-European peoples. Look at all the killing the Marxists did to normal people of the world.
Darwinism doesn’t really attempt to be a theory of creation, it is just a theory of evolution of life.
Marxists that I am aware of are in denial of Darwinism because it promotes the idea of racial inequality. Now, there are many Marxists who believe in a basic form of Darwinism, but they don’t believe it applies to humans (i.e. they believe we’re all equal).
Posted by Darren on Sunday, April 27, 2008 at 10:08 AM | #
In their usual paranoid style, the “experts” over at the ADL denounced Ben Stein’s elucidating documentary. Amazing!
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Anti-Evolution Film Misappropriates the Holocaust
New York, NY, April 29, 2008 … The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) today issued the following statement regarding the controversial film Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed.
The film Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed misappropriates the Holocaust and its imagery as a part of its political effort to discredit the scientific community which rejects so-called intelligent design theory.
Hitler did not need Darwin to devise his heinous plan to exterminate the Jewish people and Darwin and evolutionary theory cannot explain Hitler’s genocidal madness.
Using the Holocaust in order to tarnish those who promote the theory of evolution is outrageous and trivializes the complex factors that led to the mass extermination of European Jewry.
Posted by 357 on Friday, May 2, 2008 at 04:01 PM | #
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