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Evidence that Alon Ziv’s miscegenation propaganda is not so insane?

The whole introgression thing seems very interesting vis-a-vis the earlier Ziv discussion at MR. It appears the anthropology community has got their knickers in a not over potential evidence that may show interbreeding enhanced human fitness by enhancing human intelligence. However, the advantage only accrued one way with introgression resulting in the extinction of the poor old caveman, arguably at the hands of his human kissing cousins, or so says Bruce Lahn.

“Finding evidence of mixing is not all that surprising. But our study demonstrates the possibility that interbreeding contributed advantageous variants into the human gene pool that subsequently spread. This implies that the evolution of human biology has been affected by the contribution of advantageous genetic variants from archaic relatives that we have replaced or even killed off,” he said.

I don’t follow how this is an argument for miscegenation, any more than I subscribe to “miscegenation is miscegenation is miscegenation.”

Unless of course by miscegenation, Ziv actually meant miscegenation with cavemen, which case those Geico fellas should be expecting lots of calls soon.

Hell, I’m open to the idea of miscegenation, at least in principle, if the benefits to and from the proposed players are proven beyond a reasonable doubt, without pretending EGI doesn’t exist.  In a few centuries, after many generational studies, maybe the idea will make sense.

I was expecting that an attempt would be made to credit Zivism after the Neanderthal news came out.  This fails on several levels:

1. Just because a past action took place, and may have been adaptive at that time, does not logically imply that a pseudo-analogous action in the present or future will also be adaptive.  Each case must be examined on its merits, and considerations of EGI are first and foremost among that which needs to be considered.

2. The comparison is not really analogous.  On the one hand, we have low level mating between archaic humans and modern humans, in which certain archaic alleles survived the intervening millennia, presumably because they provided adaptive value.  The impact on the overall modern genome was small.  Note that Salter’s work allows for – openly stated in his book – replacement of less adaptive alleles by more adaptive ones (whether by intermarriage, reproductive technologies, etc.) as long as the net effect is adaptive to the receiving group.  AND, as long as this does not result in the displacement of the group via large scale immigration and/or admixture.  We have already discussed on this site how there seems to be no current advantage to miscegenation and/or mass immigration that in any way compensates for the negative effects on parental kinship or EGI.

On the other hand, Ziv promotes mass miscegenation, with no concern for parental kinship or EGI whatsoever, not to introgress specific alleles, but to produce a new race of thoroughly admixed hybrids that would replace the original native stocks.  How that is adaptive to the natives is not made clear.

3. Note that the outcome of archaic-modern mixing was that the modern newcomers became better adapted to the environment of the archaic natives, possibly assisting in the complete extinction of the natives.  This does not exactly advertise itself as an adaptive analogous strategy for white natives, so as to heighten the competitive value of the newcomer competition by giving them white genes.  Note that most of the African-American leadership – including some of the most anti-white types – have considerable white admixture and, hence, heightened intelligence.  Cui bono?  On the site “Bitter Asian Males”, one of this anti-white website’s bloggers is a half-white Eurasian mix.  Cui bono?

4. It is also possible that the moderns would have replaced the archaics eventually without the admixture, meaning that their EGI was decreased for nothing.  Either way, the process harmed either the archaics alone, or both the archaics and the moderns, depending on whether modern expansion was or was not dependent on the introgression.

5. As a final note to point 1, remember that past admixture does not in any way obviate the genetic interests of a current ‘admixed’ population.  Every population has interests in its own continuity, independent of how it came into existence.  All of the objections to Ziv’s ideas stand undiminished; it is up to him to explain how current and future inter-racial mixing more than compensates for the genocidal effects on genetic interests – as well as the devastating effects on kinship – ancient inter-species events are not relevant (apart from the fact that differences in archaic-modern admixture have created differences in the current races that make them even more unique than previously thought – and thus enhances the arguments AGAINST Ziv’s ideas).

Joker, they had to add that sentence in the article because right before it they said that Negroes don’t have the allele as much.  They couldn’t leave people thinking to themselves, “So that’s why Negroes are less intelligent!” They had to immediately create a smoke screen for P.C.’s sake.

A link to the article is here, on the right at the words “Full text (PDF).” Prof. Hawks discusses the subject here.  Hawks is not always a good expositor—his prose, or his explanatory powers, or whatever it is, don’t produce clear explanations half the time.  It’s murky and you have to read lots of it five times to understand his points.  But if you have even slight knowledge of molecular biology and are willing to re-read it until you get it, you can understand his stuff perfectly.  Watch out:  his political correctness has a way of sneaking up on you in odd places.  But at least he makes the effort to discuss and teach, and for that he deserves credit.

Prof. Ziv’s stuff isn’t science as much as it is Jewish salivating over the prospect of helping to rid the world of an age-old and loathed ethno-racial rival (Euros) by encouraging its members to mate with Negroes.  Ziv’s “book” is politics, not science, and will influence only those among the Euro races whose eyes don’t line up with the holes in their faces (who can’t see, in other words).  (I put book in quotes because it’s a Jewish pro-genocide tract, not a book properly so-called.)

I incline to the the view expressed by Stan Gooch, that the Neanderthals were not destroyed by the younger Cro-Magnon culture, but were incorporated into the culture through interbreeding.

Here’s an extract from one of his more recent books, “The Dream Culture of the Neanderthals;”

“A number of long standing beliefs and superstitions show how the ideas that dominated the lives of our ancestors still have a powerful influence on us today. The disturbing power attributed to the number thirteen, the positive influence of the number seven and the comfort offered by the admonition ‘knock on wood’ all betray the enduring presence of our most ancient ancestors: the Neanderthals.

The blending of the disparate influences of the lunar, matriarchal Neanderthals and the solar, patriarchal Cro-Magnons may explain the contradictory impulses and influences that have generated human conflict for millennia. In fact, the author suggests that the caste system in India may have been constructed to utilise the strengths of both lunar and solar cultures and to minimise the conflict between the two. There is evidence that direct descendents of the moon-worshipping, dream-cultivating Neanderthal race are still living in Central Asia today. While their physical descendants may be almost extinct, the influence of Neanderthal occult wisdom remains strong and can be found throughout history among witches, kabbalists, the Knights Templar, Rosicrucians and even in Christianity.”