Charlene Downes - a murder too far for the MSM

Posted by onetwothree on March 14, 2006, 01:04 PM | #

This received 14 hits:

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=Charlene+Downes&btnG=Search+News

While this received 165:

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=Emmett+Till&btnG=Search+News

Oddly enough, many of the hits in the second link refer to something called “The Untold Story of Emmett Louis Till”. I wonder what the untold story is.

The motives of the ruling class are trivial and will be left as an exercise for the reader.

Posted by Amalek on March 14, 2006, 02:38 PM | #

Some of Britain’s most revolting food is served on the Golden Mile at Blackpool, but *this* is a blood libel against the Religion of Peace;-)

Posted by Søren Renner on March 14, 2006, 03:24 PM | #

Where did England we treasure in memory go? It used to be that many a poor orphan lad/ was fed a meat pie made out of his dad—a meat pie made from an Englishman by an Englishman—not a kebab made by a Woggistani scoundrel.

Posted by Lurker on March 14, 2006, 03:43 PM | #

Glad Im a veggie.

Posted by labantall on March 14, 2006, 08:53 PM | #

I think you’ll find this isn’t the first mysterious food-related disappearing woman incident in North West Lancs.

http://ukcommentators.blogspot.com/2005/08/who-ate-all-pies.html

Posted by Calvin on March 14, 2006, 09:05 PM | #

What does an ethnic have to do to make the headlines? One swift axe blow to the head is enough to get white kids saturation media coverage for months. Our two bisto coloured chums murder (rape?) dismember and feed a fourteen year-old to the public and they fail to get a mention in the mainstream media. Making pies of his victims earned Sweeney Todd notoriety across the generations. Sweeney Todd was, of course, white. It’s shades of Kriss Donald all over again. Outstanding ethnic criminals plumb new depths in crime and yet still fail to gain the attention of the national media. When will the media end its racist reporting and give Blacks, Albanians, Muslims and Africans some credit for their outstanding achievements in criminal depravity?

Posted by labantall on March 14, 2006, 10:03 PM | #

I don’t think it’s quite as simple as that. You’d have thought the pie factory story would also have been big news - yet it sank without trace, as did the unfortunate victim.

I do think it’s probable that a native committing such a crme would get a lot more coverage. They don’t want to frighten the horses.

Posted by starimomak on March 14, 2006, 10:07 PM | #

Really, I would like to see more proof of this. Of course, proof might be covered up. But it does seem really incredible in the literally sense of the word.

BTW someone slurred Jeffrey Dahmer on this thread. Its one thing to kill ‘em and eat ‘em yourself. It’s another thing to feed non , what Kosher, Halal , what , meat to unsuspecting customers.

Do you think this will come out in the trial—are trial records public in England?

Posted by Lurker on March 14, 2006, 10:39 PM | #

The records are public but dont expect the MSM to report them.

Posted by Dave on March 16, 2006, 07:40 PM | #

It was in the local manchester metro paper but not put on-line
See here for my piece and a scanned image of the page

http://www.nationalistblog.blogspot.com/2006/03/was-charlenes-body-turned-into-kebab.html

Posted by Guessedworker on March 16, 2006, 07:51 PM | #

Thanks for letting me know, Dave.  But how disgusting and immoral that this poor child’s passing doesn’t interest our own nationals because the pig who killed her is brown-skinned!

Posted by s on March 22, 2006, 10:36 PM | #

i must say that this has been going on for some time now. i have heard that blood spatter has been found at the take away but even us locals are kept in the dark.
and no i never ate at that place!

Posted by Karen Palmer on March 27, 2006, 09:48 AM | #

Right well I live in Blackpool and it’s no wonder that I keep myself to myself. God only knows why these two, well sicko’s, did this to a carefree 14 year old. Yeah, she may have been no angel but excuse me for saying what 14 year old is?

I hope these two people, AND THEIR FAMILY, never have to go through the loss that Charlene’s family have had to go through. Her poor Mother must have been devistated to find out that her daughter hadn’t come home, 3 years on and still no trace to find that it’s now a murder investigation....I can’t even say how she must have felt.

For a parent to lose a child, and I am only saying what I see to be possibly the most minute of feelings as I have never experienced these awful feelings, must be one of the worst feelings in the world but when a body is found you must expect the cuts and bruises of some discusting thug. To think what your child must have gone through and knowing that in the coffin won’t be the body of your child must be more traumatic than words can possibly express. 

I hope these people suffer for what they have done and I hope that Charlene’s Mum concentrates on the happy memories of the days that passed when both her and Charlene smiled and laughed together. One day they will meet again.

Posted by Barry on March 30, 2006, 11:09 PM | #

I stopped eating in places owned or operated by people who are not European a long time ago - The risk is too great. When you eat in a fast food outlet you are trusting the people who operate it with your life.

- even just from a hygeine point of view! Don’t do it!!! - make sandwiches and stay away from dodgy food outlets - Remember - every Kebab purchased contributes to another immigrants airline ticket to the U.K.

Posted by Dean Scott on April 01, 2006, 09:17 AM | #

Is there no justice in this town. After living on dickson road for a couple of years and walking past that takeaway of doom at least twice a day, i had to move the rage boiling inside me was too much,, when i think about that poor girl and what she must of went through, to have her lovely sweet life taken away..and her poor body will never be aloud to rest properly.. because of two BARBARIC, CREATURES,, THAT SHOULD BE GIVIN THE DEATH PENELTY… AND SHOULD NOT BE ALOUD TO WALK ON THIS PLANET AGAIN… BUT,,BUT YET THERE HELL HOLE OF A TAKE AWAY IS OPEN FOR BUISNESS AS NORMAL,,,,,,,WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?? WHERE IS THE JUSTICE?? CLOSE THAT TAKE AWAY DOWN… WIPE FUNNY BOYS OF THE MAP AND BE DONE WITH IT… AND GIVE THAT POOR FAMILY OF CHARLENES SOME LITTLE JUSTICE THEY DESERVE,, BECAUSE THERE IS NO SENTENCE THAT WILL BE LONG ENOUGH FOR THOSE TWO BUTCHERS… CLOSE IT DOWN ... GOD REST CHARLENES LITTLE SOUL…

Posted by charlotte stephem on April 09, 2006, 03:51 PM | #

oh my god!! this sick guy who runs the shop..few weeks back he asked me and my friend if we would go to his room!! how sickening!

Posted by kate on May 05, 2006, 05:05 PM | #

Does anybody know who else worked in this hell hole??what was the owner of take away known by??did he have knick name?

Posted by Andrew on May 05, 2006, 07:31 PM | #

JJR might recall in Queensland; a Butcher of Lebanese Moslem back ground (50 years of age) or about. Calved up a new born baby girl, who he was the father of, to a 19 year old white girl who was his mistress.
It seems to be a common plight emanating from Cultural diversity; Islam and the Arab mind set, us westerners do not appreciate the complexities of pathological behavior.
But our cultural Marxists nincompoops who will on their magical mystery tour of the Neurological disordered will continually remind and tell us it never happened, as there is no realism, so why would they tell you there is.
Hmmmm.

Posted by Guessedworker on May 05, 2006, 08:30 PM | #

Kate,

Both men appeared briefly in court on March 9th.  Mohammed Raveshi had his committal proceedings adjourned until April 10th.  However, I think the hearing must have been adjourned again because I can’t find any news as to the date he will face trial at Preston Crown Court.

Iyad Albattikhi, who is the one charged with Charlene’s murder, had his case sent directly to Crown Court.  He will answer the charge on June 15th.

Posted by Nick Tamiroff on May 05, 2006, 10:18 PM | #

WHAT A SICKENING STORY-Idi Amin had more class.But,unfortunately,even here in the US,depredations by Blacks[Fucking niggers]’Rag-heads,and illegals{Wet-backs],are consistently fogged over by the MSM.I seriously doubt this would have ever came to court a hundred years ago-justice is best served by the people.The system of law has become a traversity of indivdual ,God given rights.Place this SOB in a room with all her relatives and friends,lock the door,and return in six hours.Case closed[and at small expense to the taxpayer] As a humorous aside-Lurker--A vegetarian is someone who can’t shoot well.  LOL

Posted by kate on May 07, 2006, 06:01 PM | #

thanks guessedworker,do you think other men were possible involved in this horrible case?this has really put me off completly now in going to buy food in take aways,i just dont trust them no more,they should go back to their countries and cook and sell for there own sort....

Posted by kate on May 07, 2006, 06:05 PM | #

how come there has been no photos of these monsters in newspaper or internet??????????

Posted by kate on May 07, 2006, 06:13 PM | #

Charlotte sorry to hear the scum bag invited you and your freind to room,that must of been terrible to think it could of been you,does this scum bag have a nick name,as i was told he used to have take away in st.annes,is he tall with pale white skin and does he have brother younger than him,what type of persion did he seem???was he alone when he asked you?what was your reaction??just goes to show we can never trust this type.i think lots of these late night take aways have dodgy things going on,its a shame that when this type thing happens it just puts you off all of them,they make me laugh they dont eat pork but yet they do all this type of evil filth,

Posted by kay on October 20, 2006, 04:24 PM | #

in response to your asking of people who worked in funnyboyz takeaway. I worked there in 2004/2005 as well as other female members of staff. most of the staff I knew there were decent people and the scary thing thing is eddie and rez seemed normal!!! At the time I got on quite well with them but after the endless police interviews ive endured I am now confident that these were not nice men and it really does make you think! Youre not safe anywhere you go or even with the people that you think you know.

Posted by kayleigh on October 20, 2006, 04:28 PM | #

In response to your question kate the man that has been charged with charlenes murder iyad albatikki was know to me as Eddie and mohammad raveshi was known to me as rez. Some other names you may have heard are mimo, abdulla, sam, ziko, tariq, chicco, danny, tommy, the list is endless.

Posted by Guessedworker on October 20, 2006, 04:44 PM | #

Kayleigh,

Thanks for posting.

I am aware that Albattikhi was due to come before the court in June.  But I have been unable to trace any reports of that, or of his subsequent fate.

Do you know what the current status of the case is?

Posted by kate on October 31, 2006, 12:03 AM | #

Was it true that eddie had a take away in st.annes before called arfan spices?in this take away in blackpool was it just iraniansthat worked there,what about the take away in st.annes which nationalities worked there?i did hear that the owners dealt in drugs,but not sure if true,i carnt understand why there is nothing said about raveshi,i searched all the internet but no answer to his outcome of trial back in april,

Posted by martin on October 31, 2006, 12:11 AM | #

i did hear there were other nationalities that worked there,but no idea which,its terrible to think that these men are simply just walking round the streets,as if nothing has ever happened,i think i caught sight of one of the monsters in blackpool town centre in a chip shop,but i just couldnt have any eye contact what so ever,it really does put you off take away food,

Posted by steve d on November 12, 2006, 10:57 PM | #

i feel very sick,did they have take away in st.annes?was it an indian near st.annes square?it makes you wonder did they put human flesh inkebabs there,ive eaten plenty of them,that makes me a cannibal,i feel so sick,i just hope it isnt true,as the media sometimes aggarate things,and papers sometimes give you diffrent stories,who were the people that worked in funny boyz?where they gay?i mean with that type of name it looks possible,what nationalities worked there,was it iranians and english???????

Posted by Fred Scrooby on November 12, 2006, 11:26 PM | #

Steve D, everyone understands how sick you feel, but a young English girl was also horribly murdered.  Butchered.  Desecrated.  And why?  Because the English élites said these others had to be brought in to live amongst the English, and they absolutely refused to take “No” for an answer when decent ordinary English folk grumbled.  Does any British political party care about the horrific, unmentionable fate suffered by this poor girl?  or by Kris Donald?  or by any of them we’ve all heard about?  No ... none does ... Except for one....  One only .... You know which one that is, Steve.  Vote for it next time.  Vote for the BNP each and every election until the élites learn a richly-deserved lesson, that ordinary Englishmen won’t be pushed around any more.  Let them know you’ve had it, yes, had it up to here.  The BNP will set things to rights, count on it.  But you’ve got to get them in office first.  Resolve to do it.

Posted by becks on November 29, 2006, 05:18 PM | #

after reading charlenes story today in college i can say i am absolutly horrified!!!! how anyone can do such a thing to sweet looking harmless young girl i do not kno!!!! i hope it haunts those awful men for the rest of their lives. i also hope remains of charlednes body are found so she can finally rest in peice, bless her sole!!!!!

Posted by gemma on December 16, 2006, 12:52 AM | #

i think its awful that these men are named,and yet that they are not found guilty,what are the press going to say if not found guilty????.they have no proof that these men did this terrible crime,makes me wonder if its all to do with racism.

Posted by Guessedworker on December 16, 2006, 10:25 AM | #

Presumably there is DNA material in the DIY tile grout.

Why mention racism, Gemma?  Do you mean the normal instincts and responses of a people subjected to invasion?

Posted by gemma on December 19, 2006, 10:02 AM | #

I suppose that was a stupid thing i wrote,why would they put bones in tile grout?,knowing that the police would find the evidence?surely you would think they would cover any evidence

Posted by Guessedworker on December 19, 2006, 11:40 AM | #

gemma,

Killers are not evil geniuses, and Hannibal Lecter certainly wouldn’t have operated a burger dive in Blackpool.

The real cover up is the complete lack of information in the media regarding the case.  The BNP site hasn’t covered it for many months, so their local branch obviously hasn’t reported on it either.

I want to keep abreast of the case, but there’s absolutely nothing for me to go on.

Posted by Steven Palese on December 19, 2006, 05:25 PM | #

Gemma, “i think its awful that these men are named,and yet that they are not found guilty,what are the press going to say if not found guilty????.they have no proof that these men did this terrible crime,makes me wonder if its all to do with racism.”

What are the press going to say!? The point being made is that the press blacks out these events. It’s not that we expect the kind of total 24/24 live coverage that a white on non-white murder would elicit, it’s that we don’t expect a complete blackout.

As to racism, the reason the press blacks out these types of crimes is because they discriminate against white victims in their reporting. This is dicrimination based on race. Since racism is discrimination or prejudice based on race, this is a clear-cut case of anti-white racism by the press.

Is that what you meant by racism or are you using the politically correct definition, i.e. that racism is when whites claim equal rights to defend their group interests like everyone else?

Posted by SUE on December 22, 2006, 05:32 PM | #

I DONT UNDERSTAND HOW THEY CAN SAY THAT POSSIBLY BONES WERE GROUND UP AND MAYBE PUT IN THE TILE GROUT,YOU WOULD THINK THAT NOWADAYS THEY WOULD BE SURE OR NOT SURE THAT THIS IS THE CASE.I JUST HOPE THAT THE GIRL IS FOUND.IT MUST BE A LIVING NIGHTMARE FOR THE FAMILY.GOD BLESS THEM.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on December 22, 2006, 08:46 PM | #

“HOPE THAT THE GIRL IS FOUND.  IT MUST BE A LIVING NIGHTMARE FOR THE FAMILY.” (—SUE)

I don’t think the girl’s going to be found, Sue.  I think she’s gone.  Gone and disposed of.

“IT MUST BE A LIVING NIGHTMARE FOR THE FAMILY.  GOD BLESS THEM.”

Amen.  And may God damn those who did this:  Tony Blair and the Labour Party, as well as any other politician and political party complicit over the years in the unspeakable outrage of forcing this unwanted excessive incompatible immigration down an unwilling English population’s throat.  May God damn their souls to hell, every one of them doing this!  God damn those sons-of-bitch bastards!

Posted by Lil on January 21, 2007, 08:03 PM | #

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Posted by mick on February 11, 2007, 01:09 AM | #

WHEN IS TTHE MURDER TRIAL?DOES ANYBODY KNOW?JUST HOPE THEY CATCH THESE EVIL MEN THAT DID THIS

Posted by Guessedworker on February 11, 2007, 08:22 AM | #

“Tottenham Lad” reports: “If the rumours are true then the trial of her murderer due to take place in February 2007 may give rise to one of the potentially biggest murder stories ever.”

... those rumours, of course, being a leak or leaks from police sources about the disposal of Charlene’s body.

So ... readers in Lancashire, please watch your local press for any news of the case.  If it is reported locally but there is no reporting nationally, that would fit in with the “liberal MSM” charge.  If there is no reporting locally either, that would suggest a D Notice - which is scarcely believable, given the non-security nature of the case.

I suspect it will be reported across the MSM very briefly, once at the verdict stage.  A fig leaf for them, and less grounds for our accusations of manipulativeness.

As ever, any info that comes to light of a trial in progress this month, please report the fact on this thread.

Thank you.

Posted by mick on February 16, 2007, 09:51 PM | #

has anybody heard the out come of the trial yet,i thought it was in the first or second week of feb,has anybody heard?????????

Posted by Kay on February 18, 2007, 04:28 PM | #

I was toldby the police just before christmas that the trial is towrds summer this year. I have been told I will be called as a witness so I will post a note when i find out. All I know as yet is that the trial will be at Preston Crown Court.

Posted by Guessedworker on February 18, 2007, 04:35 PM | #

Kay,

Yes, please do that.  If, after the trial, you would like to pass on any of your impressions for general circulation please send them to me through the mail button.

Many thanks.

Posted by dave on February 23, 2007, 11:15 PM | #

hi kay,do you have any evidence of this evil crime,did you know the men that could of been involved?was it just two men that they think did this crime?i heard that the trial was in preston in february 2207,thats what the papers said,i feel sorry for you that you have to be witness to this terrible crime,what you think?that the two iranians did this?

Posted by dave on February 23, 2007, 11:19 PM | #

what has happened to the two iranians that they arrested?are they loose on the streets?or locked up?i just carnt belive that this can happen in home town,

Posted by dave on February 23, 2007, 11:26 PM | #

kay did you know personally the young girl that has been missing for 4 years?what you think has happened to her?i remeber reading this last year,and carnt stop thinking about it,i feel so sorry for all the family and freinds of this young girl.

Posted by Jade on February 24, 2007, 10:02 AM | #

Right i think that it is so sick!! These are SCUM!!!!!!!! FOR what they have done to an innocent little girl !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by mish on February 24, 2007, 10:11 AM | #

I think this is disgusting an innocent 14 yr old girl murderd how many times will this have to happen?  how come it didnt make world headlines..... [ hmmm maybe b.coz britain dnt wana seem racist, well its just tuff if britain and our goverment really needs to bang there heads together and sort some thing because the british wont put up with this for much longer !

Posted by Guessedworker on February 24, 2007, 11:10 AM | #

“Our government”, “our media”, “our educational Establishment” are not going to bang their heads together, mish.  They all want what’s happening to the white working class - the English working class - to continue.  They like it.  It’s what they believe in.  They DON’T believe in you.  They don’t want you to own your own country.  They are racial egalitarians, and it’s racial egalitarianism that they promote while ruthlessly demonising any normal feelings you have for your own kind and your own country.

The only people who can change this is YOU.  It’s up to YOU.

Don’t turn your back on the problem and involve yourself purely in your own immediate concerns.  You have a responsibility to our kids to sort this out.  It’s big politics but it has to be done.

Posted by mish on February 24, 2007, 12:19 PM | #

looka all im trying to say how people feel look at our goverment they dont care if they bring ethnic people to this country, look at the london bombing they bomb there own country where kind enough to let them ova ere and they bomb us its about time the bnp got involved because all of this is going to get worse

Posted by tina on February 24, 2007, 06:08 PM | #

I am utterly disgusted by the death of this poor young girl, and it is about time life for murder meant life, like everybody thought it would be after they abolished hanging.
I think you need to realise that the reason that Blair and co don’t care how and who comes into the UK is because he is serving his masters in the European Union who only want to see a European Empire, and eventually a One World Government, with the unelected elite in charge, of course.
Until you realise that the EU is already a Dictatorship and that we have lost our Sovereignty and will not get it back until we get out of that Dictatorship, people will just keep on coming and coming, until standing room only, and we wont be able to do a thing about it.  The criminal element will make sure we wont be out after dark, and even during the day, fear will rule.
The European Union is being fronted by an ‘elected’ European Parliament who merely discuss things like bananas and yogurts, when the real power and decision making is made by the unelected ones, namely the Commission, the Council of Europe and a man called Javier Solana who is in charge of it all.  He is also the head of the Western European Union, and is in charge of the weaponry of the member nations.  Oh, and by the way, he took this power under European Union Directive No.666.  Does the number ring a bell???
This patrician elete does not give a fig about plebs like us, and they will keep on expanding the EU and letting in more and more poor eastern european countries, all of whom will be entitled to come and live here, and claim the benefits after two years.  Given we don’t have enough medical, educational, etc., facilities as it is, may God help us.  And all the time we are being silenced by political correctness.
If you really want to learn something, check out about the coming One World Government, and the Club of Rome. 
I hope we are able to take our country back and see people in Government who care about the people of this country and put them first, and stop this madness, and stop bending over backwards for all the minority groups to the detriment of common sense, and safety.

Posted by gail on February 24, 2007, 06:19 PM | #

when is the murder trial for this?i read in aily paper it was due this month,has anybody heard anything,whether they are found guilty for killing this little girl of 14 years of age, please comment if anybody knows.many thanks.gail

Posted by steve on February 24, 2007, 06:40 PM | #

gail i heard it was this month,but its wired that theres nothing on news or papers

Posted by GEMMA on February 26, 2007, 05:03 PM | #

ITS ALL A MYSTERY,NOTHING IN PAPERS I READ DAILY

Posted by GEMMA on February 26, 2007, 05:04 PM | #

ANYMORE FOLOW UPS????????????????

Posted by steve on February 28, 2007, 06:45 PM | #

well today is last day of feb,and nothing at all in papers,they said the media that trial will be in february,and still no news.

Posted by terry davis on February 28, 2007, 09:22 PM | #

well if this is the take away i went to in blackpool opposite funny girls,well i just want to throw up,the thought that i could of eat human meat,i would never sleep now over this disgusting act,this is really satanic if the whole story is true,i read on internet that trial was due to take place this month also,i have searched every web page under the sun,but not found nothing about the out come of this trial,i read that they were due at preston crown court,another site said that the trial is in the summer this year,so really dont know do we??i am very intrested to find out if these evil guys did this,i belive a female freind of mine nearly worked there but the late mornings put her off,so glad she didnt otherwise she could be in a kebab.i honestly cannot get my head around this how an earth can anybody kill a young child,and by the sounds of it,its possible they sexed with her,and god knows what else,what dirty old men!thats if the outcome is true,excuse me if they are not found guilty,but it looks a chance they will be,with the evidence they have.i just hope that young people would not hang around these dirty take aways,because many of them also deal with drugs and all sorts of dirty things...these places should be shut down all over the country,or have early closing hours,so then it minamises these type of disgusting evil things happening.please comment if anybody has heard the outcome of the murder trial.

Posted by terry on February 28, 2007, 09:27 PM | #

where do these scum bags come from?how long has this hell hole been in blackpool?is there anybody else that went in there for eats?

Posted by Andy Wooster on February 28, 2007, 09:57 PM | #

Truly sickening. 

On another note, is that article typical of the quality of postings on the BNP site? The coarse writing reminds me more of a high school newspaper than the official website of a serious political party.

Posted by Guessedworker on February 28, 2007, 11:16 PM | #

The writing on the BNP website is mixed.  Some is readable, though rarely stylish.  Some appears to have been written by the kind of 1960s Dogmasaurus who reported the glorious struggle of the working man against his class oppressors.  Most is that blogging anathematic: rather average.

How did the exams go, Andy?

Posted by GEMMA on March 04, 2007, 11:33 PM | #

STILL NOTHING ABOUT THIS EVIL CRIME,NOTHING IN PAPERS OR WEB.IT LOOKS LIKE SOON FORGOTTON ABOUT,NO MENTION OF TRIAL NOTHING AT ALL

Posted by Guessedworker on March 04, 2007, 11:45 PM | #

We can’t draw any conclusions until the summer, since Kay’s comment at February 18, 2007 at 04:28 PM makes it clear that a February trial was ruled out, and another set for maybe May or June.  We shall see.

Posted by sue on March 09, 2007, 03:55 PM | #

i have just found out the trial is in may at preston crowwn court,they are both in custordy

Posted by kirsty fletcher on March 12, 2007, 02:10 PM | #

kay you two faced cow u were going out with eddie and if the rumours are true u knew exactly what was going on and how can u say they were nice people when it was no secret that they’d give drugs to young girls and bed them they did it to u for gods sake. neway i guess ill c u at the trial theres a few things i need to say to u anyway!!!

Posted by sue on March 12, 2007, 08:39 PM | #

kirsty do you know anything about these men?is it true they drugged up girls for sex?..was anybody else involved,or was it just these two men? i heard one was relesed,not sure who he was.who is kay?did she have anythingthing to do with the man who is up for trial?

Posted by sue on March 12, 2007, 08:43 PM | #

i heard these men also had take away in st.annes lancs,is that right?was it the one down st.davids road st.annes?.............i did hear that there was some drug dealers there,but cannot belive all that you hear,i also heard it was a shifty place..glad i never went to these take aways.please comment if you know anything else,

Posted by sue on March 12, 2007, 08:50 PM | #

what do you think kirsty/do you think the men are guilty of this evil crime?there dosent seem to be much in the papers about it,are you going to court as a witness?i really feel sorry for you that you have to be amongest all this,did you know the young school girl?did she hang around this funny boyz?when did she disappear,was it halloween night?

Posted by PETE on March 13, 2007, 11:39 PM | #

I READ ON THE WEB SHE WAS LAST SEEN ON NOVEMBER 1ST,FEW YEARS AGO,UNDER MISSING PERSONS,IT DOSENT LOOK LIKE SHE WILL EVER BE FOUND,WHAT A TERRIBLE TIME HER FAMILY MUST BE GOING AND EVEN WORSE THEY NEVER FOUND THE BODY,MY HEART GOES OUT TO ALL HER FAMILY AND FREINDS.
HOW CAN ANYBODY HURT AN INNOCENT CHILD.I BELIVE SHE WAS A YOUNG SCHOOL GIRL AS YOUNG AS FOURTEEN YEARS OF AGE.
IF THESE MEN ARE PROVEN GUILTY LETS JUST HOPE THAT THEY WILL BE SENT BACK TO THE COUNTRY THEY CAME FROM,AND LET THEM DEAL WITH THEM,OUR COUNTRY ARE JUST TOO SOFT,THEY KEEP ALLOWING THESE PEOPLE IN,AND MAKES IT SO THE KIDS ARE JUST NOT SAFE,THESE FOREIGNERS SEEM TO PREY ON YOUNG SCHOOL KIDS,ITS SO PERVERTED,I CANNOT UNDERSTAND HOW THESE MEN COULD HAVE SEX WITH SUCH A YOUNG KID,AND IF ITS TRUE WHAT THE WEB SAYS ABOUT A PERV RING JUST MAKES ME WANT TO THROW UP.ITS JUST ASAME THAT THE YOUNG GIRLS JUST DIDNT SPEAK UP TO THE POLICE ABOUT THE GOINGS ON,THEN THIS WOULD NEVER OF HAPPENED,I HOPE THAT THIS HAS OPENED THE EYES OF THE YOUNG ONES,NOT TO MESS ABOUT IN THESE KIND OF PLACES,BLACKPOOL IS KNOWN FOR WIERDOS...WAS THE MEN IRANIAN/OR BRITISH IRANIAN?...LETS JUST HOPE THAT ALL THE SCUMMY TRUTH COMES OUT WHEN ITS THE TRIAL.AND IF IT IS THESE MEN LETS JUST HOPE THEY WILL BE SENT BACK TO WHERE THEY CAME FROM,WHY SHOULD OUR GOVERMENTS PAY FOR THESE EVIL PEOPLE TO HAVE A NICE HOME IN PRISON.IT JUST DOSENT MAKE SENSE.I BELIVE THE TRIAL WILL TKE PLACE IN PRESTON CROWN COURT,IN MA THIS YEAR,IT LOOKS LIKE THERE ARE A COUPLE OF GIRLS THAT WILL BE GOING AS WITNESSES,GOD HELP THEM,AND THE POOR FAMILY OF THIS GIRL CHARLENE DOWNES.
IS THERE ANYBODY THAT HAS ANY MORE NEWS ABOUT THIS? I HAVE TRIED TO FOLLOW UP MORE NEWS,BUT DOSENT SEEM TO BE MUCH MORE ABOUT IT,IS IT JUST THE TWO MEN THAT ARE UP FOR IT,IN COURT?OR IS THERE OTHERS IVOLVED IN THIS????WAS IT A DRUG DEALING PLACE THIS GAY TAKE AWAY?WITH A NAME LIKE THAT ITS POSSIBLE.NYMORE INFO PLEASE FOLLOW THIS UP WITH ANY INFO.

Posted by TERRY on March 13, 2007, 11:45 PM | #

TRIAL TO BE HELD PRESTON COURTS IN MAY 2007.DONT THINK ANYBODY ELSE INVOLVED,JUST THESE TWO FROM IRAN I THINK,SHOULD IMAGINE THEY WILL BE SENT BACK TO IRAN,AS THEY NOT BRITISH.BEST PLACE FOR THEM,I AGREE WHY THE HELL SHOULD WE KEEP THEM..IT WILL BE VERY INTRESTING TO FIND OUT WHERE THEY DUMPED THE BODY OF THIS POOR CHILD.ITS SO DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND THE MINDS OF THESE EVIL MONSTERS.CARNT IMAGINE THIS TYPE OF THING HAPPENING SO CLOSE TO HOME.I AGREE BLACKPOOL IS FULL OF CREEPS.

Posted by TERRY on March 14, 2007, 12:12 AM | #

I DONT GET IT,WHATS WITHALL GOT TO DO WITH IT?????????????????????????????????????????????///////

Posted by deris on March 16, 2007, 09:17 PM | #

lets hope they catch these evil men that did this,anybody know these men in blackpool?

Posted by lorna on March 17, 2007, 09:51 AM | #

i read about this last year,but there dosent seem to be any more mention of it since,in papers nothing,i read last year trial to be taking place february of this year,but didnt hear any out come of it,anybody else know?has the girl never been found?

Posted by terry on March 18, 2007, 01:06 AM | #

no lorna they have never found the body,they belive that she could of been put in the burgers and fed to the public,mind you this we dont know,you can never belive everything that you read in the papers...............................just feel so sorry also for the family,and what a lovely family they are too,i dont know them personally,but i have heard from a freind of a freind that they are a lovely family,and they dont deserve this,well nobody deseves this,its so difficult to understand how men can sex girls so young,she was a little girl of 14 years age.its so disgusting to think that these men could of done this..they are worse than animals,its so pervert.just hope that these young girls have learned a lesson from this and to stay away from these type of places,and these type of men.the other girls that knew the goings on should of gone straight to the police and they would of sorted the animals out straight away.but its too late now....just hope that all the truth will comwe out in may this year,so keep your eyes open in the local news,or world news as it will make the world news,as its just s a horrific crime,just cannot except it,if it is these animals hope they send back to where they came from,why should we support them in prison,it really gets to me how the people in our country are treated so well in prison,colour television games room etc,it just is sickening,should be eye for an eye,like they did years ago,then perhaps they wouldnt do this type of thing the same..........trial is in may 2007 i read earlier,,no doubt it will bwe on the local news,north west,no doubt it will be world news...any more iinfo please comment........does anybody know this take away?funny boyz blackpool.did anybody know these animals?

Posted by terry on March 18, 2007, 01:08 AM | #

what is all this about vote in red letters????????????? i dont get it,all this about politics dont get it,whats all this to do with a murder case?????????????????????????????//

Posted by Fred Scrooby on March 18, 2007, 02:26 AM | #

Terry, there’s a link between this crime and unneeded, unwanted, excessive, and incompatible immigration, immigration the British people don’t want but are getting anyway because the government insists on it over their opposition.  The government, which has been forcing this sort of immigration on the people for purposes of its own is, in a sense, complicit in this girl’s murder, if only through what amounts to a kind of criminal negligence on its part.  A vote for the BNP will help remove the government whose criminal negligence (as manifested in its insane immigration policy) got that girl killed.

Posted by kat on March 18, 2007, 08:52 PM | #

I KNOW THAT MY FREIND FROM BLACKPOOL HAS BEEN IN THAT FUNNY BOYZ,SHE DID SAY THAT THE OWNER SEEMED VERY FLIRTY WHEN SHE ASKED FOR MEAL,AND THEY WERE VERY SHODDY DRESSED,SHE SAID ABOVE THE TAKE AWAY THERE WAS A PROSTITUTE PARLOUR,RIGHT ABOVE THE TAKE AWAY,SO THIS PROVES SOMETHING,I THINK POLICE HAVE ALSO CLOSED THIS PLACE DOWN

Posted by scot over sea on March 19, 2007, 05:49 PM | #

i have also heard the same type of thing,i think that place was jusy bait for young school girls,they supplied drugs for sex

Posted by susan wilkins on March 27, 2007, 05:32 PM | #

I am amazed at all I have just read, I knew of Charlenes dissapearance in 2004 after being contacted by the police enquiring of her Grandfathers whereabouts, I could only assist with a telephone number, the police did not give me any information, her Grandfather is my uncle, her Great Grandfather was my Grandfather so you can see I am very interested in the outcome of this case, the only thing that puzzles me is they must have evidence somewhere or how can they charge them with murder? And you are all right if not only these but many many more just come to live in England with fake passports, who knows there past.  It makes me laugh fight for your queen, king and country what of all the men who have gone to war and died for their country 1000’s upon 1000’s “NOW TELL ME FOR WHAT” THIS IS JUST A LEGAL TAKE OVER SO DISCREETLY DONE.  Please email if anyone finds out in May if justice has been done, I live in the Midlands so do not receive Blackpool news.

Posted by sue on May 09, 2007, 11:00 AM | #

all i can say is if the courts are using kirsty fletcher as a witness god help us, this is a lass who got out of prison in december 06 for kidnapping a girl and beating her up ( you will find the story in THE KEIGHLEY NEWS arcives )

Posted by Donna on May 11, 2007, 09:40 AM | #

i have just red the statements what u put on here,
Charlene is my sister
How u think i feel the lost of losing a special little sister?
we all live in hell
our lives will never be thesame without charlene

Posted by Donna on May 11, 2007, 02:59 PM | #

If Nick Griffin and BNP di there job then Charlene Downes wouldnt o die.
immigration should be limited to this country they come here, they take over this world, they get more benefits money tan we do, I am sick off the way they talk in there different languages when the bristish walk passed.
I still think its disgusting, I can never eat kebabs or burgers ever again.

Posted by Bud White on May 11, 2007, 04:04 PM | #

“And what is the argument for keeping murderous animals - any murderous animals regardless of you-know-what - alive and breathing the fart-filled air in our prison system for a couple of decades?"-GW

The murderer(s) of Charlene (God rest her soul) deserves nothing less than to be “accidentally” dropped into a swimming pool containing a school of starving piranha.

Posted by sue on May 11, 2007, 05:45 PM | #

i live in nelson lancs need i say more, ifyou are assaulted by an asian n report it nothing seems to be done yet the other way around and all you hear is another racist attack etc one rule for us and another for them, nelson is now a dump totally run down by all the immigrants etc and every other week a new mosque- there even buying churches to convert- what a piss-take

Posted by Donna on May 13, 2007, 04:17 PM | #

hey fred,
thaks for saying that me and sue are more intelligent, more honest and show more integrity than Blair and all the members of his government put together.
Well Charlene Mum is my god-mum, her family is like my family, I was disowned from my real mum.
We all miss Charlene so much,
Our lifes are never gonna be the same without Charlene, she means to much to us and we lost her for ever
The trail will be 21st may 2007

Posted by donna on May 23, 2007, 09:07 PM | #

the trial started on 21st may 2007 at preston crown court
my mum keeping me upto date with the trial

Posted by Guessedworker on May 23, 2007, 09:23 PM | #

Donna,

Thank you very much for this information.  There appears to be no press coverage on-line, even of the Blackpool, Preston or Lancashire locals, and certainly nothing in the nationals that I have seen.  The way things are, nobody will ever know about Charlene, and that is completely wrong.  Does your mum know if there are any press reporters covering the trial, or is it just low-key?

Posted by SUE on May 24, 2007, 09:22 AM | #

WHAT I DONT UNDERSTAND IS HOW THEY ARE ALLOWED TO KEEP IT SO LOW KEY, ANY OTHER MURDER IS SPREAD ACROSS EVERY NEWSPAPER YET SOMETHING SO HORRIFIC IS KEPT SO QUIET. SURELY THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE AWARE OF WHAT IS GOING ON AND ALSO (THIS IS ONLY MY VIEW) THAT THE TRAGIC DEATH OF CHARLENE SHOULD BE BROUGHT TO EVERYONES ATTENTION TO WARN OTHER YOUNG GIRLS OF THE DANGERS OTHER WISE NOT ONLY DID CHARLENE SUFFER BUT SHE SUFFERED IN SILENCE- I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF KAY AND KIRSTY HAVE GIVEN THEIR EVIDENCE YET AND WHAT THEIR VIEW IS ON HOW THE TRIAL IS PROCCEDING.

Posted by Donna on May 24, 2007, 05:48 PM | #

i dont think my mum nos about the press reporters
but i wana no how come theres no pictures of these 2 “wankas”

Posted by Donna on May 24, 2007, 05:50 PM | #

i dont know if my mum knows about the press reporters.
I wana no y there aint no pictures of the 2 wankas

Posted by sue on May 25, 2007, 07:42 AM | #

STARTING TO FIND SNIPPITS OF THE TRIAL YOU CAN FIND BITS IN LANCASHIRE NEWS (INTERNET) AND A SMALL PIECE ON TELETEXT

Posted by Simon on May 26, 2007, 07:13 AM | #

This is obviously a sickening case but the worst thing is that even if they do get convicted you can bet money on them being out within 5 to 10 years, if that! I agree with abolishing the death penalty, not only on the grounds that it lowers us to their level, but mainly because even if executed they are given a humane & pleasant death, which is a joke. If we were going to keep the keep the death penalty then it should be a long, drawn out & painful death & if possible, similiar to what their victims suffered.
I would say also that they should be kept alive to rot in jail but sadly nowadays jail is alot more comfortable then most decent peoples homes & they get treated better then most of our elderly generation who have to suffer poverty & squalid conditions despite actually fighting for this country & paying into it all their lifes.

Sorry, i know thats abit off topic but i just want to illustrate how its a multitude of problems that this country now faces. And we’re meant to be a developed country!! lol!

Posted by Donna on May 26, 2007, 01:57 PM | #

we wasnt talking about all the iraqis ppl and i aint fuking racist.
Excuss me we r talking about a dead girl who is my sister.
I hate when ppl make excuses i am just telling the truth how i feel.
how come theres no pictures of them 2 ppl what killed charlene
I am just speaking the truth

Posted by ben tillman on May 26, 2007, 03:01 PM | #

General Shabb, it is perhaps a good thing you are 4,000 miles away.  If you said what you said about Charlene in my presence, you would most likely not live to speak again. 

...and about the BNP political bullshit fuck the BNP i fuckin hate them they should burn in hell fuckers!!! the way i see it everyone is equal in this world no one is more superiro then anyone....

“Racism” has nothing to do with superiority.  It has to do with whites attempting to keep what is theirs (like England) so they can continue to live into the future.  “Anti-racism” is about taking what belongs to whites and giving it to other races so that whites have no future. 

In other words, “racism” is right and good, and “anti-racism” is genocidal and evil.

Posted by susan wilkins on May 26, 2007, 04:23 PM | #

If you read in the Mirror page 23 on 25/05/07 there is a small report on the case and in the sun 25/05/07 there is even a piture the case has been adjourned until ? I do hope that they have enough evidence to commit these two people for a very long time, although none of this will ever fetch charlene back and the fact that her family have a life time sentence.

Posted by Donna on May 26, 2007, 07:25 PM | #

this is ment to be about charlene nothing else
i still wana no y they have no pictures of the 2 men what killed charlene downes

Posted by Makran on May 27, 2007, 09:08 AM | #

People,
just stop eating and buying things from shops and businesses run by non Europeans or who employ them. This is especially true for browns and blacks and truer for muslims. Most non-Euros for some strange reason hate us. That is what I have found. I have worked with and have come across many non Euros in my life and trust me, I believe about 70-85% do not like us and have a desire to harm us. I do not know why, most Euros I know do not have such feelings for them. Buy from small businesses owned by British people or who employ only Europeans. It is Ok to buy stuff from other European owned shops (Italians, Polish etc...) if there are no native shops providing a service or commodity. But boycott brown and black shops. Every pound you pay goes in their pockets and makes them stronger. Try boycotting big businesses as far as possible as they too employ these non-Euros and care a hoot for us. Use your income as a tool to get back our nation and our continent.

Posted by Lurker on May 27, 2007, 01:04 PM | #

USSR - I think you will find there are a lot more ‘issues’ between Poles and Russians than between Brits & Poles. Still, you know best I suppose.