Charlene Downes - a murder too far for the MSM

Posted by SUE on May 24, 2007, 09:22 AM | #

WHAT I DONT UNDERSTAND IS HOW THEY ARE ALLOWED TO KEEP IT SO LOW KEY, ANY OTHER MURDER IS SPREAD ACROSS EVERY NEWSPAPER YET SOMETHING SO HORRIFIC IS KEPT SO QUIET. SURELY THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE AWARE OF WHAT IS GOING ON AND ALSO (THIS IS ONLY MY VIEW) THAT THE TRAGIC DEATH OF CHARLENE SHOULD BE BROUGHT TO EVERYONES ATTENTION TO WARN OTHER YOUNG GIRLS OF THE DANGERS OTHER WISE NOT ONLY DID CHARLENE SUFFER BUT SHE SUFFERED IN SILENCE- I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF KAY AND KIRSTY HAVE GIVEN THEIR EVIDENCE YET AND WHAT THEIR VIEW IS ON HOW THE TRIAL IS PROCCEDING.

Posted by Donna on May 24, 2007, 05:48 PM | #

i dont think my mum nos about the press reporters
but i wana no how come theres no pictures of these 2 “wankas”

Posted by Donna on May 24, 2007, 05:50 PM | #

i dont know if my mum knows about the press reporters.
I wana no y there aint no pictures of the 2 wankas

Posted by sue on May 25, 2007, 07:42 AM | #

STARTING TO FIND SNIPPITS OF THE TRIAL YOU CAN FIND BITS IN LANCASHIRE NEWS (INTERNET) AND A SMALL PIECE ON TELETEXT

Posted by Simon on May 26, 2007, 07:13 AM | #

This is obviously a sickening case but the worst thing is that even if they do get convicted you can bet money on them being out within 5 to 10 years, if that! I agree with abolishing the death penalty, not only on the grounds that it lowers us to their level, but mainly because even if executed they are given a humane & pleasant death, which is a joke. If we were going to keep the keep the death penalty then it should be a long, drawn out & painful death & if possible, similiar to what their victims suffered.
I would say also that they should be kept alive to rot in jail but sadly nowadays jail is alot more comfortable then most decent peoples homes & they get treated better then most of our elderly generation who have to suffer poverty & squalid conditions despite actually fighting for this country & paying into it all their lifes.

Sorry, i know thats abit off topic but i just want to illustrate how its a multitude of problems that this country now faces. And we’re meant to be a developed country!! lol!

Posted by Donna on May 26, 2007, 01:57 PM | #

we wasnt talking about all the iraqis ppl and i aint fuking racist.
Excuss me we r talking about a dead girl who is my sister.
I hate when ppl make excuses i am just telling the truth how i feel.
how come theres no pictures of them 2 ppl what killed charlene
I am just speaking the truth

Posted by ben tillman on May 26, 2007, 03:01 PM | #

General Shabb, it is perhaps a good thing you are 4,000 miles away.  If you said what you said about Charlene in my presence, you would most likely not live to speak again. 

...and about the BNP political bullshit fuck the BNP i fuckin hate them they should burn in hell fuckers!!! the way i see it everyone is equal in this world no one is more superiro then anyone....

“Racism” has nothing to do with superiority.  It has to do with whites attempting to keep what is theirs (like England) so they can continue to live into the future.  “Anti-racism” is about taking what belongs to whites and giving it to other races so that whites have no future. 

In other words, “racism” is right and good, and “anti-racism” is genocidal and evil.

Posted by susan wilkins on May 26, 2007, 04:23 PM | #

If you read in the Mirror page 23 on 25/05/07 there is a small report on the case and in the sun 25/05/07 there is even a piture the case has been adjourned until ? I do hope that they have enough evidence to commit these two people for a very long time, although none of this will ever fetch charlene back and the fact that her family have a life time sentence.

Posted by Donna on May 26, 2007, 07:25 PM | #

this is ment to be about charlene nothing else
i still wana no y they have no pictures of the 2 men what killed charlene downes

Posted by Makran on May 27, 2007, 09:08 AM | #

People,
just stop eating and buying things from shops and businesses run by non Europeans or who employ them. This is especially true for browns and blacks and truer for muslims. Most non-Euros for some strange reason hate us. That is what I have found. I have worked with and have come across many non Euros in my life and trust me, I believe about 70-85% do not like us and have a desire to harm us. I do not know why, most Euros I know do not have such feelings for them. Buy from small businesses owned by British people or who employ only Europeans. It is Ok to buy stuff from other European owned shops (Italians, Polish etc...) if there are no native shops providing a service or commodity. But boycott brown and black shops. Every pound you pay goes in their pockets and makes them stronger. Try boycotting big businesses as far as possible as they too employ these non-Euros and care a hoot for us. Use your income as a tool to get back our nation and our continent.

Posted by Lurker on May 27, 2007, 01:04 PM | #

USSR - I think you will find there are a lot more ‘issues’ between Poles and Russians than between Brits & Poles. Still, you know best I suppose.

Posted by Donna on May 28, 2007, 08:41 PM | #

ffs will u ppl grow up this i ment to be about Charlene
think of my little sister who is fuking dead
no-one can bring her back can they

Posted by Guessedworker on May 28, 2007, 08:48 PM | #

Donna,

What has happened to Raveshi?

Posted by Donna on May 28, 2007, 08:57 PM | #

i dont know whats happening to raveshi
but i will ring up my mum tomoro or write to her to c whats happening
it just sickens me if they get away with it

Posted by Guessedworker on May 28, 2007, 09:55 PM | #

Maybe the CPS decided that they couldn’t bring a prosecution against him until they had a guilty verdict against Albatikkhi.  That would make sense.  If Raveshi walked in a separate trial before Albatikkhi faced the court, that would wreck the case against him, ie the main culprit.

Posted by Polar Bear on May 29, 2007, 12:22 AM | #

Wake up gentlemen.  They are having sex with our children. They are murdering them.  They blow us up. They openly lie ot us. The sell us drugs, they steal and rebirth our cars.

They can do this becuase we are not Muslim. We are lower then animals.

Its time to end this madness. The fight is not in Iraq and Afganistan. Its here, and its now.  Fight back or die.....

Posted by Davey Daniels on May 29, 2007, 01:08 PM | #

“Actually, you will find literally nothing.”

Not true. I first saw it in the Daily Telegraph.

They made a big deal out of how teenage girls would meet blokes from the takeaways and were involved in sexual activity.

There is where you find why there’s no big media palaver. The constant front pages about Madeleine even though there’s no news (she’s still missing...) are different. Yet both Maddy and Charlene are white.

Are you really saying if Maddy’s found dead and the killer’s non-white the media will all but ignore it?

The difference is, as anyone who’s watched a horror film knows, girls who have sex ‘deserve’ whatever happens to them. Had Charlene been 8 years old, and especially if she’d been from a posh family, there’d be a lot more fuss.

That’s why Holly & Jessica got so much attention too. We have a sick idea that if the 14 year old skips school and has sex then she’s got less of a right to life. As people get older or poorer, they slide down our league table.

It’s about class, it’s about tabloid headlines. Race is a non-issue in the coverage.

“walk from his cell into the gentle, misty light of north-west England.”

Have you *been* up here? Pissing with rain is a lot more common than ‘gentle misty light’.

Posted by Guessedworker on May 29, 2007, 03:47 PM | #

Davey,

Google for the Daily Telegraph link, and post it here.

Race is always an issue for the liberal media - the issue being to excise it from their coverage of non-white racial crimes.

Look, click here and read the questions I pose for the media.  Then see if you can extrapolate the classic Marxist diagnosis you are attempting to now.

Posted by Donna on May 29, 2007, 06:09 PM | #

well my mum wrote a letter to me today saying that in the gazette it says ‘I killed her...I was just angry’

Posted by Donna on June 03, 2007, 03:37 PM | #

I wana no why they dont have pics of these 2 men what killed my darling sister
we miss her so much
I feel that my life is half empty without Charlene

Posted by Fred Scrooby on June 03, 2007, 05:10 PM | #

“I wana no why they dont have pics of these 2 men what killed my darling sister” (—Donna)

Donna, I believe Guessedworker answers that question in his comment a few above, where he points out that “Race is always an issue for the liberal media - the issue being to excise it from their coverage of non-white racial crimes.”

And to reply to Davey Daniels where he asks, “Are you really saying if Maddy’s found dead and the killer’s non-white the media will all but ignore it?”, yes Davey, that’s exactly what I’m saying.  That is one-hundred-percent word-for-word what I’m saying.

Posted by Lurker on June 04, 2007, 01:35 AM | #

Davey - I cant prove the media will ignore the racial profile of criminals and victims when its white victim/non-white attacker but I very strongly suspect its the case.

Anthony Walker, Stephen Lawrence - those names mean anything to you Davey? They should as the media informed us from day one that their murders were racially motivated.

Mary Ann Leneghan, what about her? At what point did you realise anything about the racial profile in that case. Probably not until the trial, I could have bet (and won money) about the identity of the killers from the first few hours the story was first reported precisely from what was not reported. And it turns out of course by some happy accident that the crime there was not racially motivated. So much so that as far as I can tell at no time did anyone in the MSM ever even vaguely speculate that there might be one.

If, God forbid, Madeline turns up dead and the killer turns out to be non-white I would willing to bet that there will be no speculation in the media about any racial angle whatsoever. The issue will not even be raised, not even to dismiss it! The media will be left bitterly regretting they had ever publicised the case so much though. Watch them back-pedal faster than a clown at the circus.

If Charlene was black/muslim and her killers white then stand back, we would never never hear the end of it and we certainly wouldnt be spared any hand-wringing about the racial angle, none whatsoever. Or maybe you think that’s not true. You have to shoehorn the facts into your Marxist analysis as you go along I suppose.

Posted by Donna on June 11, 2007, 03:40 PM | #

does ayone knows what is going on with the trial
I cant get over there for the trial

Posted by Donna on June 21, 2007, 11:06 AM | #

does anyone no whats happening with the trial
I no the 2 men are denying everything and there was a couple of witness saying that the men were pervs

Posted by Lucas Albion on June 26, 2007, 03:25 PM | #

Dear Donna, I feel so sorry for you. You must be suffering so much. I also hear you asking why there are no pictures of the people who have been charged with the murder of Charlene. I think I wll be able to answer your quiestion. Although the answer may shock you very deeply as it did me.

I first came across what happened to Charlene in March 2006 whilst reading the BNP website. I was deeply shocked by what happened and also wondered why there was no media ( TV, radio, newspapers. ) coverage of what had happened. It seemed to me that the various branches of the media were working together to keep this story out of the public domain.

I then set about finding out who controls the UK media. The information I found was deeply shocking to me. If you really want to know why what happened to Charlene is being kept out of the media type into your search engine, jew watch +uk media. This site tells you who controls the UK media.

I have been telling people about this information for over a year now and I have become the local wierdo for telling it. Nobody I know wants to know what I have found out. I have lost respect from a lot of people and been called a rascist, natzi and anti semite. I am none of these things, I am just someone who came across what happened to Charlene and asked a few quiestions and searched for the truth.

I hope your family get some kind of justice for what happened to Charlene and I will carry on telling people what I have found out.

Yours, Lucas Albion.

Posted by Donna on July 12, 2007, 10:53 AM | #

ty lucas,
I really appreciate it so much.
Whatever happened to charlene is a lost with the family,
I really miss her so much she brought so much to our lifes, now shes gone. I feel so empty. I no its stupid but she means everything to me, and i want justice for her and i want the people who killed her to be in prison and get life.
i no they wont get life they will only get a couple of years, probably if they good they will get less.
I dont think your a weirdo or anything like that, I hate when people judges other people.
You keep up the good work and carry on. and i like to say ty again
thanks for listening or reading lol
love donna
xx

Posted by Lucas Albion on July 13, 2007, 09:27 AM | #

Dear Donna, I am at college at the moment and have arrived early so that I can reply to your posting.

Thankyou for saying that you do not think I am a wierdo. In fact not so long after I read your posting I printed it out and showed it to a more open minded friend. I did this as I was concerned about you thinking that it is stupid for you to miss and feel so empty because of losing your sister. I asked my friend wether they thought it would be appropriate of me to give my personal opinion on you thinking that it is stupid for feeling the way you do. They said that I should reply and that it was admirable of me to support you at this time. I personally don’t know but I do believe that if I can help someone then I will.

As far as I am concerned it is not stupid to miss and feel empty etc. when you lose someone close to you. It shows that you love that person and that they meant a lot to you.

The last person that I loved who I lost, I cried my eyes out for ten days solid and I am a male. I consider anyone who tells another that they are stupid for grieving to be lacking in emotional intelligence. I pity them, they have a lot of growing up to do. Be proud of your tears they are symbols of your love for your sister Charlene.

If you would like to discuss any of the information contained on the website that I recommended to you, feel free to make a posting on this website. I read it pretty regularly now that I have found it. It helps me to get my head round what is going on in this this society of ours. I don’t know why but finding out what happened to Charlene was like a bomb going off in my head. I can only imagine what you must feel like.

Anyway Donna I must finish this posting now as I have college work to do. Keep your chin up, be strong, keep going on and be proud of your tears.

Yours, Lucas Albion.

Posted by donna on September 02, 2007, 09:03 PM | #

Dear lucas, Im at home at the moment so that I can reply to u
I dont judge ppl cos of what they find out,
i always feel so empty and i will always miss my siscos i got loads on my mind at the moment
im glad u gave me ur pesonnal opinion, i really appreciate it
when i lost my daughter i was bad for a couple of days
Charlene is always going be in my heart,
ill keep my chin up and thanks for listing and reading me

love donna

Posted by Lucas Albion on September 21, 2007, 01:04 PM | #

Dear Donna, thankyou for your reply. I am sorry I have not been able to read this site for a while, I have been really busy with my college work.

Well some of the local people round here have read the articles in the Metro and Times and are showing me a little more respect. However they will not take my advice and read the website that I recommended to you. I suppose that it is just too much for them to accept at the moment. I hope these people find some courage from somewhere or this country is going to see some serious trouble in the future.

Glad you appreciated my personal opinion and that you are going to keep your chin up. Nice one Donna, don’t let the miscreants who control the system grind you down. That is what they want! Be strong and determined in your quest for justice for Charlene. Anytime you feel like writing on this blog to me, do so. It may take me some time to reply as I am so busy but I will keep on returning to see what is going on.

Take care Donna, don’t forget that good old British stiff upper lip, and keep your chin up girl!

Take care, yours, Lucas Albion.

Posted by donna on October 05, 2007, 09:03 PM | #

Dear lucas, thank you for your reply.
not every1 listen and understand what ppl says. some ppl make me mad when they tallk about her especially when they didnt no her,
it is too much for them to accept at the moment, but i have to get on with life hun
heres my email address for u its
Take care, yours, Donna Hancox

Posted by donna on November 05, 2007, 03:22 PM | #

the trail is starting in january so i have been told

Posted by Guessedworker on November 05, 2007, 06:01 PM | #

Thanks, Donna.  We’ll watch out for it.

Posted by donna on November 15, 2007, 08:55 PM | #

yw guessedworker
i will keep u upto date

Posted by captainchaos on November 15, 2007, 10:16 PM | #

In America (in some states) at least these sacks of shit would get the death penalty.  But there is a silver lining to this dark cloud - he will get out of prison one day.  When white men who are sick of seeing subhuman towelheads slaughter their children get their hands on him he will wish he got the death penalty.  Justice is coming Iyad!

Posted by --- on January 06, 2008, 04:36 AM | #

The wait goes on for Charlene’s family.

Fingers crossed for April.

http://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/blackpoolnews/Charlene-New-trial-date.3639955.jp

Charlene: New trial date

By Paul Fielding
THE trial of two men accused of being behind the disappearance of Blackpool teenager Charlene Downes has been put back until April.

Charlene vanished in November 2003 after waving goodbye to her mother at a town centre bus stop. She was then aged 14.

Iyad Albattikhi, 30, the former owner of Funny Boyz kebab shop on Dickson Road, Blackpool, is charged with murdering Charlene.

His business partner Mohammed Reveshi, 51, of Hornby Road, is accused of helping dispose of the St George’s High School pupil’s body. Both deny the charges.

At a trial held last year the jury could not reach a verdict on either man. A retrial was expected to begin on January 21. But that has now been set back to April 2 to allow Albattikhi’s defence team more time to prepare.

Det Sgt Jan Beasant of Blackpool Police said: “The trial has been delayed to allow the defence to do more preparation with their witnesses. The family have been notified and are aware of the new trial date.”

A spokeswoman for the Crown Prosecution Service said: “The date has changed because Mr Albattikhi has secured a new legal team who wanted more time to go through all the evidence.”

The investigation into Charlene’s whereabouts was the biggest missing person hunt in the history of Lancashire Police.
_____

Posted by jgjifh on April 11, 2008, 03:16 AM | #

The guilty cleared on instruction of the guilty.

Police plead for our sympathy - for the incompetent police.

Another domino falls.

Posted by donna on April 22, 2008, 09:27 PM | #

i just found out that the 2 men have been cleared
we have still got no justice
its not fair

Posted by Fred Scrooby on April 22, 2008, 10:01 PM | #

“I just found out that the 2 men have been cleared
we have still got no justice” (—Donna)

A day will come when the men ultimately responsible for this won’t be cleared.  A day will come when we will get justice. 

That day approaches.

Posted by donna on June 01, 2008, 06:59 PM | #

i wish the justice will come soon for my darling sister charlene
i miss her so much

Posted by floyd1 on July 20, 2008, 01:54 PM | #

this is the uk ..an iraqi killing a kid ..and raping ..should expect the full wrath of the british courts ..expect at least 120 hrs community service ..and still be allowed to stay here and collect benefits ...fuck your human rites ..lets get tougher

Posted by Fred Scrooby on July 20, 2008, 02:25 PM | #

We’re under lockdown, Floyd.  Our own élite classes are collaborating in it.  We’ve got to break these chains first (peacefully through things like elections and peaceful street demonstrations, not violently), then things can be set right again.  Any Brit, if that’s what you are, needs to seriously consider 1) voting for the BNP and only the BNP until things are set to rights, and 2) spreading the word to others to do likewise and vote only for the BNP until sanity is restored.  That’s the least anyone can do, the absolute least.  Each individual in the U.K. who either doesn’t vote or votes for a party other than the BNP loses all moral right to complain about what’s going on.

Posted by donna on September 20, 2008, 08:04 PM | #

well we had a memorial service for Charlene on the 15th september

Posted by Guessedworker on September 20, 2008, 09:15 PM | #

I hope the family finds some peace of mind through that, Donna.  They should know, too, that their loss has been felt by many people they will never know and never meet.

Thank you very much for keeping us informed over the last two and a half years.

Posted by donna on September 28, 2008, 11:07 PM | #

well i dont want ppl to slag charlene off and ive seen so many websites bout her and they got horrible things and ppl say cos shes not from a decent or important family no body gives a shit. but we all love her so much and miss her, it upsets me so much. i couldnt go to the memorial service i had other personal things to deal with but i wished i went now to say bye to her. i can never forget her, she will always b in my heart