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Some have asked, “What’s the problem with all of these ‘get out of the cities’ guys?  Go urban, map out your area of operation, stock up, form a plan with your (black and mestizo? - gt) neighbors.  The real value is in the cities, not out in the fields.  Think Stalingrad instead of Red Dawn.”

Okay, let’s “Think Stalingrad.”

Until Stalingrad the Reich’s military success was due to armored and mechanized tactics.  Stalingrad, transformed to rubble, hindered those tactics.  Long German supply lines were frequently attacked and fuel supplies cut-off.  The Reich’s mechanized advantage was effectively neutralized.  The Battle for Stalingrad became a numbers game – dominated by men equipped with short-range firearms.

Lessons learned from this experience?  Primarily two:  a) avoid long supply lines and b) don’t attack urban areas with tanks.  Instead, deny essential services and let the cities tear themselves apart.

So, what sort of White man would allow himself to be trapped like a rat in the urbs and ‘burbs under these circumstances?  A better question might be what sort of man would subject his White family to urban chaos, starvation, dehydration and almost certain rape and death?

Short answer:  a fool.

Many thanks to 2R for introducing us to the counter-terrorist consultant John Robb.

The Coming Urban Terror
John Robb

Cities played a vital defensive role in the last major evolution of conventional state-versus-state warfare. Between the world wars, the refinement of technologies—particularly the combustion engine, when combined with armor—made it possible for armies to move at much higher speeds than in the past, so new methods of warfare emphasized armored motorized maneuver as a way to pierce the opposition’s solid defensive lines and range deep into soft, undefended rear areas. These incursions, the armored thrusts of blitzkrieg, turned an army’s size against itself: even the smallest armored vanguard could easily disrupt the supply of ammunition, fuel, and rations necessary to maintain the huge armies of the twentieth century in the field.

To defend against these thrusts, the theoretician J. F. C. Fuller wrote in the 1930s, cities could be used as anchor or pivot points to engage armored forces in attacks on static positions, bogging down the offensive. Tanks couldn’t move quickly through cities, and if they bypassed them and struck too deeply into enemy territory, their supply lines—in particular, of the gasoline they drank greedily—would become vulnerable. The city, Fuller anticipated, could serve as a vast fortress, requiring the fast new armor to revert to the ancient tactic of the siege. That’s exactly what happened in practice during World War II, when the defenses mounted in Leningrad, Moscow, and Stalingrad played a major role in the Allied victory.

But in the current evolution of warfare, cities are no longer defensive anchors against armored thrusts ranging through the countryside. They have become the main targets of offensive action themselves. Just as the huge militaries of the early twentieth century were vulnerable to supply and communications disruption, cities are now so heavily dependent on a constant flow of services from various centralized systems that even the simplest attacks on those systems can cause massive disruption.

Most of the networks that we rely on for city life—communications, electricity, transportation, water—are overused, interdependent, and extremely complex. They developed organically as what scholars in the emerging field of network science call “scale-free networks,” which contain large hubs with a plethora of connections to smaller and more isolated local clusters. Such networks are economically efficient and resistant to random failure—but they are also extremely vulnerable to intentional disruptions, as Albert-Laszlo Barabasi shows in his important book Linked: The New Science of Networks. In practice, this means that a very small number of attacks on the critical hubs of a scale-free network can collapse the entire network. Such a collapse can occasionally happen by accident, when random failure hits a critical node; think of the huge Northeast blackout of 2003, which caused $6.4 billion in damage.

Further, the networks of our global superinfrastructure are tightly “coupled”—so tightly interconnected, that is, that any change in one has a nearly instantaneous effect on the others. Attacking one network is like knocking over the first domino in a series: it leads to cascades of failure through a variety of connected networks, faster than human managers can respond.

Posted by GT on Monday, April 14, 2008 at 02:31 PM in White Communities & Micro-Economies
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If you like John Robb’s take on scale free networks, you may like to read my take on them from 2 years ago here at MR.  Basically, scale free networks have something called “no epidemic threshold” which means they are exceedingly vulnerable to the evolution of virulence.  Jewish virulence is a prime example but the more mundane examples include the evolution of virulent microbes that are increasingly drug resistant and increasingly virulent.  Obviously, the hubs of such networks are the last places you want to be. 

In that post, I take this to the near-term extreme of looking toward ocean frontiers for white fertility, which is clearly unwise as a personal priority for many of us who can afford to relocate to rural areas.  But that requires land and a source of income while you are establishing yourself on that land—both of which are in increasingly short supply.  So the rest of us are stuck—and that means the majority of us.  For those of us, increasing in numbers daily, who basically have a choice between becoming suicide bombers and dying jobless in the streets of an urban area, there are increasingly obvious ways to strategically position ourselves for the future oceanic frontier:

Ocean energy platforms.

Peak oil is upon us and for a decade or so that means the price elasticity of demand for energy is going to drive demand for hazardous work on oceanic oil platforms and, increasingly, oceanic wind energy platforms—where a lower per-area cost may arise from the scaling laws for wind energy.

Posted by James Bowery on Monday, April 14, 2008 at 05:04 PM | #


James,

I noticed the similarity between your theory of jewish virulence and these scale free networks when I read Robb’s site the other night.  I wasn’t aware of the article you had done.  Thanks for providing the link.  I’d like to see a simpler presentation from a social perspective.  Maybe I’ll provide one in the near future, time permitting.

As to our situation, the majority of bookclubbers are urban and retired.  They’ve not provided economic reasons for not going rural and beginning the process of building microcommunities.  Instead, they’ve provided amateur tactical and strategic reasons for not doing so coupled with ad hominem, pseudo-elitist sneering, and finally, boycotting.  That’s extremely telling, in my opinion.

I don’t expect insolvent youngsters to go rural on my word.  I expect elders to take the lead, build working microcommunities in suburban and rural environments, and develop network infrastructure.  I expect to see foster-relationships established and mentoring of young men and women.

Posted by GT on Monday, April 14, 2008 at 06:15 PM | #


I don’t expect insolvent youngsters to go rural on my word.  I expect elders to take the lead, build working microcommunities in suburban and rural environments, and develop network infrastructure.

Now I understand your position.

As for those “insolvent youngsters” awaiting leadership while facing lower levels of employment for white men and rent next month in an economy that is supporting vast tracts of empty houses held by propped-up banks:

The big business news last week trumpeted by the old media was General Electric’s much lower than expected profits (GE is the third largest company by market capitalization in the world so this seriously worried most observers)—but the old media failed to provide equal time to this bright spot for young men looking for somewhere to survive the depression:

‘[General Electric] said in its conference call with analysts last Friday that the backlog of wind turbines--i.e. orders that have booked but can’t ship--has grown to $12 billion. That’s up from $11 billion in the fourth quarter and more than twice the size of the backlog in the first quarter a year ago.’

Speaking of which, I’d like your opinion on the Selsam wind turbine.  It seems to offer some very significant advantages for filling the market gap created by GE’s emphasis on the huge turbines.

Posted by James Bowery on Monday, April 14, 2008 at 07:20 PM | #


A backlog of wind turbines?  Too cool!  I’ll look into that.  Thanks.

Posted by GT on Monday, April 14, 2008 at 07:31 PM | #


I think the Greater Depression/collapse/post-America economy is going to be very much a black market economy.  I think we should have White families in the countryside, and single White men who are “toughs” working in the city and trading our goods in the city at the best price possible, so as to establish themselves as . . . a White social club.

Posted by Kievsky on Monday, April 14, 2008 at 07:32 PM | #


Short answer:  a fool.

Or how about one without the money to move to a safe cozy retreat out in the country?

I don’t expect insolvent youngsters to go rural on my word.

How about on your dime? I’m being serious here — a sanctimonious attitude doesn’t solve the problem of money ("insolvency") for a lot of young white men who would like nothing more than ex urbs fugere, nor do your rather high-handed “expectations” generally, which are always hanging around to dog others for being, well, where we are and not where you want us to be. If it were simply a question of them being stubborn about remaining urban, all right, but it seems the only young whites absolutely unwilling to flee the city are females, who now positively crave its distractions and cannot tolerate a slower, quieter pace of life. Moreover, going rural is certainly not much cheaper than maintaining oneself in a city; the cost of setup, as it were, usually involves purchasing or leasing property outright. Then there’s gas to get to work, which is no doubt much farther down the way; and of course you probably need a truck, and a trade, etc. So there’s really no correlation of economic relief with going rural.

Posted by haramzada on Monday, April 14, 2008 at 11:00 PM | #


So, what sort of White man would allow himself to be trapped like a rat in the urbs and ‘burbs under these circumstances?  A better question might be what sort of man would subject his White family to urban chaos, starvation, dehydration and almost certain rape and death?

Short answer:  a fool.

Or how about one without the money to move to a safe cozy retreat out in the country?

Or how about the fellow in the first paragraph who says the real value is in the cities, not out in the fields, then goes on to say, “Think Stalingrad instead of Red Dawn?”

I don’t expect insolvent youngsters to go rural on my word.

How about on your dime? I’m being serious here — a sanctimonious attitude doesn’t solve the problem of money ("insolvency") for a lot of young white men who would like nothing more than ex urbs fugere, …

I have several going on my dime, seriously. 

Insolvent meant “broke.” You’re right, I should use another word.  I’ll change it to “broke.”

nor do your rather high-handed “expectations” generally, which are always hanging around to dog others for being, well, where we are and not where you want us to be.

I’ll repeat my reply to Bowery: I expect elders to take the lead, build working microcommunities in suburban and rural environments, and develop network infrastructure.  I expect to see foster-relationships established and mentoring of young men and women.

Am I high-handed with the elders?  Am I dogging them?  Absolutely.  50 years of bookclubbing and failed leadership deserves nothing less.

…but it seems the only young whites absolutely unwilling to flee the city are females

Young whites were not addressed.  The elders were.

Moreover, going rural is certainly not much cheaper than maintaining oneself in a city; the cost of setup, as it were, usually involves purchasing or leasing property outright. Then there’s gas to get to work, which is no doubt much farther down the way; and of course you probably need a truck, and a trade, etc. So there’s really no correlation of economic relief with going rural.

I’m quite familiar with the problems involved.

Posted by GT on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 at 12:58 AM | #


There probably needs to be something more closely resembling a business plan.  Unfortunately, the only idea I’ve run across that sounds like a business plan also sounds a bit like slavery:  Some older “Christian investors” are setting up a “school” which is to be populated by young people they find homeless on the streets of the cities, who sign an agreement that they will do a work-education program on ranch/farm land where they will, in addition to the practical education, be compensated with room, board and a stipend that goes into a savings account for when they “graduate” after 4 years.  In exchange they will, in addition to the work they do, be required to attend religious services and then, upon graduation, pay 10% of their gross income for the rest of their lives back to the “school”.

This gets back to my fundamental complaint about economic activity (as opposed to property rights) as the basis for tithe or taxation.

Posted by James Bowery on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 at 07:26 PM | #


GT or anyone else, in case you’re interested here’s a link to John Robb’s other blog: 

http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/johnrobb/

I agree with your comment regarding urban areas.  When the US goes to sh-t, the cities will be the last place you’ll want to be.  Even majority white cities will be dangerous, cities in general are not very self-sufficient.  And even if the people of a white mid-size city work together and figure out how to get by, it won’t be long before they start receiving “refugees.” Of course the white liberals won’t be able to turn anyone down.

In fact, people with the means to do so will be out in the country begging for a scrap of food.  Others will just try to take it.  The most vulnerable people will be whites living in cities or first ring suburbs.  What you’ll see is people form community militias, just like in Iraq.

Posted by 2R on Wednesday, April 16, 2008 at 04:37 AM | #


"I agree with your comment regarding urban areas.  When the US goes to sh-t, the cities will be the last place you’ll want to be.”

Even Frank Zappa knew it a long time ago…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2txjZRK4PY

Posted by onlooker on Thursday, April 17, 2008 at 12:21 AM | #


A follow-up to my recommendation above, that young men (awaiting leadership from their wealthier elders to “go rural") take to the oceanic oil platforms to survive the depression, is this story from Bloomberg: ”Oil Majors Must Rethink Business to Survive”:

The share of global crude reserves held by international oil companies has dropped to 6 percent from 75 percent in the 1970s, Scaroni said. Governments in some producing nations are taking close to 90 percent of the profit from projects, he said. Even with oil prices near records, ``companies’ profitability is decreasing, in many cases below their cost of capital,’’ he said…

The future viability of international oil companies such as Eni, Exxon Mobil Corp. and Royal Dutch Shell Plc depends on their ability to develop complex fields in deep waters

Posted by James Bowery on Sunday, April 20, 2008 at 07:34 PM | #


I can only sadly agree what will happen in cities when things take a real turn for the worse in the US.  All of these “populations at risk” will run wild and there will be nothing to stop them.  Whites who are unprepared will end up being roasted on a spit over a fire, literally.  Expect cannibalism.  Look at the racial situation now and imagine what it will be like when there is real civil disorder. 
I used to brush this kind of stuff off until I saw what happened in New Orleans during Katrina and later found out what a friend went through.  He is alive because he was armed and didn’t hesitate to use his weapon.  No time like the present to make some plans to ensure the safety of you and yours.  That includes firearms, a place in a rural, white area if you can afford one and maybe getting back in touch with friends or relatives who live in places like West Virginia, central PA, Vermont, Maine, etc…
I also realized that having an “advanced” degree in history and pushing a pencil wasn’t going to mean jack shit when this shit goes down, so I decided to enroll in some votech courses.  One of the best decisions I ever made.  Great post and great links.

Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 21, 2008 at 04:20 AM | #

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