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Heroism with and without high principle Reviled by the media … ordered by the Pope to recant … sacked from his post as head of the the traditionalist Society of St Pius X Seminary at La Reja, outside Buenos Aires, the good bishop Richard Williamson is now facing possible prosecutions in three countries. They are Germany:
and France:
In search of “proof”, meanwhile, the Bishop has ordered a copy of Jean-Claude Pressac’s Auschwitz: Technique And Operation Of The Gas Chambers. If that was seen by his persecutors as an emolient measure of a chastened man seeking a way out, they may be thinking differently following his latest posting at his blog, Dinoscopus, which I reproduce below the fold in full.
By any measure, this is a fine man. One would like to think that his pursuit will only harm his pursuers. Licra is a seriously arrogant organisation which almost certainly calculates it can snuff out the Bishop’s protest. It is conceivable that they will be wrong, that his shining integrity and high principle will rise above their wretched dealings ... and will be seen to do so by an increasingly perplexed global public. It could make things very awkward for these character assassins and jailers of opinion. Meanwhile, a “hero” of a very different, self-proclaimed kind was singled out earlier this week for a particularly clumsy bit of persecution by Jacqui Smith at the Home Office. In the event, Geert Wilders surely went home from Heathrow yesterday content in the knowledge that he had scored another publicity coup. It was always a win/win situation for him, whether or not Jacqui Smith allowed him past customs. And, in fairness, between them Wilders and Smith have, if only briefly, returned the “Islam Question” to the fore of British public consciousness. That has to be a good thing Publicity-wise, Wilders’ future looks bright:
I suppose it all goes to show what can be done if you praise Israel and Jewry loud enough. On balance, my sympathies are with the Bishop. Comments:99002
Posted by ex-PF on Mon, 16 Feb 2009 06:43 | # CaptainChaos, I appreciate your reading of the social barometer. Its good to get another perspective, since I can never tell how much my own “reading” is corrupted by my tendency to screen for likeminded people and natural gravitation towards traditional milieus. I also sense that things are a-changing, but then look on the internet: someone posts a question to AskMe about their sister dating a black, and you have 10 anti-racist replies before the topic is deleted. It makes me feel like all is for naught. From the way the 15 year olds talk, we may as well be living in Multicultural paradise. I’m also scared for England that ‘the backlash’ might not come. I’m afraid when I read descriptions of England. How many self-satisfied people (my overly polite yet right-hearted father among them) have said: “There will be a backlash.” What does that mean, lie down like a sheep until your neighbor is ready to roll with you? How is my passivity different from his, other than that it is an infomed passivity? I’m not sure my conscience will let me wait for others to awaken anymore. With everything I read I feel more and more that if I just stand by - even with a full theoretical knowledge and right opinions - its no better than the sheep who let it happen to them. What I’m saying is that I may have to give up my career plans and somehow participate in immigration-reform politics directly. I’m not sure, in light of whats happening, that anyone with his heart in the right place can stand by and work a regular job and be an average joe. But these are just some cogitations.
thank you for taking the time to type that out. It also seems like the sane path that would let me pursue gainful employment and start a family. I will have to weight these options going forward and decide which is the best way to be. 99003
Posted by Dasein on Mon, 16 Feb 2009 13:03 | #
An excellent point, CC.
This was my experience. It wasn’t anything particularly terrible, but that event was what set me on the path. Fred, yes I am back and forth between the Anglosphere and Germany. In some ways the situation in Germany wrt racial consciousness is better than in the Anglosphere. Peoples’ antennae for detecting ‘racist’ remarks seem less sensitive than in the Anglosphere (although perhaps I should exclude Australia because the people I know from there are not prudish on racial matters). You don’t hear the ‘that sounds raaaacist’ admonishment that comes so quickly and gleefully from Anglos. I have often heard women talk disdainfully of the ‘African mentality’. Not that there aren’t a lot of miscegenators, but observations of racial differences are not so taboo in general discourse. It’s probably to do with the fact that things are fairly segregated socially with regards to race. That is my experience, at least. The big issue is the Nazi past. It seems many are resigned to the demographic collapse as justified punishment for the war. I agree with CC that the worm has turned with regards to White racial consciousness. The big difference now is the intellectual foundation which has been built up, which the Internet allows to be popularized. The fact that some Jews and Judeophiles are now saying many of the same things is probably the best sign that the movement is about to bear fruit. It’s possible that these outsiders will deform it, but I think there is an acknowledgement among the elites that this is something that can only be held back for so long. At the moment they are perhaps strategizing about the best way to take advantage of it and to direct it, while their lackeys in the media and academia try to maintain the status quo. We’ll probably see more Obama-type stories, but I think the high-water mark has been reached. The liberal project is falling apart, as must anything that violates natural law. 99004
Posted by Guessedworker on Mon, 16 Feb 2009 13:46 | # Dasein, I did reply by email - not incredibly helpfully - to your earlier request concerning Richard Williamson and his reading of the Pressac book. Would you please check it? 99005
Posted by Dasein on Mon, 16 Feb 2009 13:50 | # The latest from the good Bishop: http://dinoscopus.blogspot.com/2009/02/church-godless.html As the deadline approaches, he still gives no sign of repenting. 99006
Posted by Guessedworker on Mon, 16 Feb 2009 13:51 | # PF, My last post about strategies for taking the argument out into the digital world was here. 99008
Posted by Fred Scrooby on Mon, 16 Feb 2009 14:27 | #
( http://dinoscopus.blogspot.com/2009/02/church-godless.html ) How true that is a mere glance at today’s world both Catholic and otherwise will promptly confirm. The Vatican must know things have gone terribly wrong but probably doesn’t know how to let go of the tiger’s tail they took hold of in the 1960s. They’d better start figuring out a way, and fast. (Hint for the Vatican: the answer does NOT involve any more listening to the Jews. You’ve listened to them quite enough already, thank you.) 99009
Posted by Tc on Tue, 17 Feb 2009 13:23 | # In my personal experience, one very useful side effect of disabusing someone of his/her hollocaustic views is, that they are truly and irrevocably woken up to the correctness of a ‘conspiratorial’ worldview - and as such, gain a chance of saving themselves from the slaughterhouse/fleecing awaiting the herd. What seems to work for me(of course after emotional sessions with family members) is when I simply ask, what if, just theoretically, what if - the HR-s were right, what would that mean about the state of our media, political, social and educational institutions? And if there there can be any extrapolations made - how would they intersect with our ostensible day-to-day reality. And that’s when the breakthroughs have happened - when the opponents were using their own brain in coming up with parallel syndromes, it wasn’t me feeding them my reality. Of course it wouldn’t work with anyone, who KNOWS the score. I suspect Alex is such a person. This holokostianity is an incredible, unbelievable, unimaginable lie for our honest folk the wrap their mind around. It and it’s effects dwarf anything else in the known history of mankind. And since the evidence is on our side, it is well worth pursuing. I’m an agnostic, yet would join this Bishop’s ministry in a heartbeat. The force is strong with him. 99010
Posted by Fred Scrooby on Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:54 | #
I like the way you put that, TC. Well said. 99011
Posted by Fred Scrooby on Tue, 17 Feb 2009 18:22 | # Laughland has got the makings of a very good essay describing the effects of the disease we see all around us, http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/3804 , but strangely fails by never once mentioning the word “Jews” in connection with the post-war West’s insane deterioration, or “race” in connection with his discussion of “nation.” Pundits like this are either blind, scared, or under strict orders. 99012
Posted by Scrooby fan on Tue, 17 Feb 2009 18:43 | #
Actually, for this Scrooby-fan not, his speculations on this thread have been most reasonable. Not often I can say that. As far as activism goes, HR cuts right to the heart of free speech. It’s simply unconscionable that people are being prosecuted for expressing skepticism about aspects of a historical event. Today HR, tomorrow what else will you be locked up for questioning? What are these people so afraid of that they have to lock up skeptical views? It isn’t difficult to make HR relevant to present issues. Can’t discuss immigration because next thing you know Holocaust; can’t discuss racial differences because next thing you know Holocaust; can’t discuss IQ and school/job performance because next thing you know Holocaust; can’t discuss the Israel Lobby because next thing you know Holocaust. Holocaust steamrolls all. And now it’s obvious why nothing must be allowed to chip even a bit of that pristine image away, why Holocaust skeptics are thrown in jail. Muzzling Holocaust skeptics won’t make another Holocaust less likely; in reality, it makes one more likely. In any case, I don’t care what people think they know; I care about what is true. It’s always to one’s advantage to be proven wrong than to go on believing untruths. Personally, I became acquainted with HR reading Irving’s libel trial. The man might have his facts mixed up, I thought, but he is no idiot. I was then prepared for the whole Holocaust thing to be false before I read a word of direct HR. It took about a week’s worth of daily reading to move me from leaning towards H (despite being skeptical) to HR (despite still being skeptical). mnuez,
This unaccountable smugness of yours is what many resent in Jews. Despite any quite real concerns you may have, how can you be so selfish as to deny the importance of what is being discussed here? Future generations, mnuez. Not your comparatively worthless life, not mine, the future. How can you continue to tapdance, to evade, to gloat? Selfish in the extreme. 99013
Posted by Svigor on Tue, 17 Feb 2009 23:12 | # Until we get a pro-White political party on the tracks we’re stuck in the train station. A pro-White party that consistently garnered even ten percent of the vote would be cooking with gas - big time. If we had that, we’d be disembarking. The goal is to get to that point. Once populist ethno-nationalism becomes a household word phenomenon, it’ll be too big to stop. It’s like saying we’ll go nowhere until we get a WN television station; if we had that, we’d already have won. If we get a million motivated, 100+ IQ white males we win. 99016
Posted by Fred Scrooby on Wed, 18 Feb 2009 01:26 | # He’s also been signing as “Bah” over at Proze’s lately. 99017
Posted by Lurker on Wed, 18 Feb 2009 03:33 | # Didnt realise it was Silver. Should have clocked that when he referred to JWH as Rienzi on another thread, one of his signature ticks! Silver, really what do you get out of all this, is it a cry for help, for attention? 99018
Posted by the Narrator... on Wed, 18 Feb 2009 09:19 | #
He makes a couple of false assumptions though, one of which he shares with Bishop Williamson and the Kinists. Namely, that Europe was built and sustained by Christianity rather than genetics. He also makes the misguided connection of increasing numbers of muslims in Europe with Europe’s declining population. The two are unnecessarily connected. Europe (like the rest of the world) is waaaaaaaaaaay overpopulated and desperately needs a reduction in numbers. Europeans, on their own, were doing just that. It was governments and greedy corporations who decided to fill the gaps on the assembly lines with foreigners to keep profits up without adjusting technology and economies to natural demographic movements. We have to stop immigration. And to do that we have to expose those who are pushing for it as the blood sucking vampires that they are. And, not to nitpick, but it would probably be a good idea for those advocating a Northern Alliance to stop phrasing it as “Europe and Russia” as though Russia were something other than European. ... 99019
Posted by Dasein on Wed, 18 Feb 2009 09:31 | # ex-PF has posted this on another thread but it’s worth repeating here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN2XQY1wFxg It’s an excellent illustration of the point CC was making earlier. To the extent that HR is a ‘conspiracy theory’, it must be remembered that Negroes are especially prone to believing any theory that makes white people (to them this includes Jews) look evil. Baboons like the one in this video are good news. Now we just need to find a way to get him back to his native habitat. 99020
Posted by Dasein on Wed, 18 Feb 2009 13:21 | #
The first Gastarbeiters were brought to Germany before the demographic shift. The gaps were real even when the birth rate was at a level unimaginable today (although I’m not sure if you are saying that the drop in the birth rate was what precipitated the ‘need’ to import non-Europeans). Whether these gaps were due to the war (maybe this is what you meant by Europeans doing it on their own, although I think we both disagree with the methodology!) or to an economy that was truly running at 200%, I’m not sure. The grave error has been the failure to not send them back, compounded by the decision to import even more. You’re right- the economy needs to be tailored to demographics, not the other way around. While Europeans have decided to depopulate, ‘dealing with overpopulation’ is a superficial rationalization on their part (I personally don’t find Europe- at least Germany- to be overpopulated and I’m not sure what measures are used to say she is). The real reasons, as far as I can tell, are that kids interfere with women’s job prospects and the freedom to go to Mallorca twice a year. It’s hedonism and misdirected attempts at fulfillment (I was impressed with Yockey’s comment, coming from as far back as 1948, that ‘[f]eminism liberated women from the natural dignity of their sex and turned them into inferior men’- never a truer word said), not any sort of foresight. The trend is dysgenic and any attempts to repopulate are going to require some government support for the right trends (the recent scheme by the government to provide generous wage subsidies to either parent who stays home with the child may bear fruit, although the results at the moment are not that impressive). I understand why people are so down on the Church. MacDonald does suggest though in SAID that in the Middle Ages the Church was often the only organization that represented the interests of the majority people (e.g. against Jewish usury). Perhaps if the traditional Nordic religion had never been lost, we would not be in the state we’re in today. Don’t know how I would decide on that one. I think the rise of science made loss of faith inevitable, replacement of faith in Christianity with humanism being a necessary condition for the modern age . Could Islam have stopped the rise of science? Perhaps, though I think the Promethean spirit of the Europeans would have eventually won the day.
Yes, but they did bring in the Jews. 99021
Posted by Fr. John on Wed, 18 Feb 2009 16:15 | # Mr. Braun- thank you. [”...an individual’s DNA can be used to infer their geographic origin with surprising accuracy—often to within a few hundred kilometres. http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v456/n7218/abs/nature07331.html I’ve put it to good use. http://thewhitechrist.wordpress.com/2009/02/04/muzzling-science-while-doing-lattice-multiplication/
You mean like an email I received entitled, “Who’s the H8’er now? <<<<begin post>>>> “The speech professor is identified as John Matteson of Los Angeles Community College. ADF reports that after Proposition 8 (the marriage-related constitutional amendment) was approved on November 4, Matteson told his entire class: “If you voted yes on Proposition 8, you are a fascist b_____d.” http://www.onenewsnow.com/Legal/Default.aspx?id=422144 http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-speech16-2009feb16,0,2571899.story THIS is the sort of ‘tolerance’ and ‘diversity’ THEY are trying to (graphic pun intended to prove a point!) ‘shove down our throats,’ in the wake of the sodomite’s irrational reaction to the voters of California’s passage of Proposition 8. How much clearer does the antichrist agenda need to be? Who’s the REAL ‘hater’ in all this? Clearly, not Christians. We are COMMANDED to hate sin and evil! Read the above articles, read the words of Sacred Scripture, then stop and think. WOULD ANY GAY ACTIVIST sit still, if the tables were reversed? OF COURSE THEY WOULDN’T!!! We can do no less, in serving Christ, than to call for this man’s termination! He’s listed on the faculty at L.A. Community College Here is the contact info for the College district: Here is the Chancellor’s Office contact info for all nine colleges. Call HIM first! Remember, OBAMA is pledged to make this sort of bigotry INSTITUTIONALIZED. He OWES his political life to the sodomite community and the liberals. “All it takes for evil to triumph, is for good men to do nothing…” All I can say in addition, is ‘go thou, and do likewise.’ This IS a racial, and religious war, folks. The sooner we know that, and determine which side we are on, the better. 99022
Posted by the Narrator... on Wed, 18 Feb 2009 17:14 | #
Well maybe my info is wrong but from what I’d read Europe’s population has grown by about 250 million since the end of WWII. That’s a helluva spike! Europe’s population seemed to be leveling itself out (for whatever specific reason) naturally. If it was due to materialism then it was a positive outgrowth of materialism. The importation of foreigners shouldn’t be connected with indigenous population numbers in relation to economies/jobs. Corporations like to make that connection but we shouldn’t let them…
82 million people in a country smaller than Montana!
Our number (in our lands) aren’t as important as their numbers in our lands are. They have to be removed one way or another. I’m not exactly sure what the percentages are over there though as it’s hard to find solid sources. As best I can gather Germany is around 8% non-White. The Netherlands is around 20% non-White. Britain seems to be about 12% non-White. France and Belgium….who knows.
I’m pretty sure they were there long before the Black Death hit. ... 99023
Posted by Armor on Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:32 | #
I think that kind of explanation doesn’t make sense. Immigration destroys both our lives and our wallets. It would have been much cheaper for us to bribe both governments and corporations into forbidding any employment of third-world immigrants. How come it couldn’t be done? How come it can’t be done even today? Maybe we should just try to raise money and buy politicians at a higher price than their usual rate. If there is an economist around, please explain why I’m wrong.
...and more, and more. I wonder when it ceased to be a grave error and became a deliberate race-replacement policy. From the start, there must have been common sense people who took objection to immigration but they were overridden by an alliance of white fools and anti-white rogues. Today’s problem is no longer foolishness, but dishonesty and a lack of courage.
Sometimes, employers ‘need’ more workers, sometimes they need fewer workers. Or from the workers’ perspective: sometimes we need more work, sometimes… —in fact, workers rarely complain there are too many jobs around to choose from. The obvious truth is that society is more comfortable overall when there is a shortage of workers, and wages are high, even if some employers complain that they are not making as much money as they could. Labor shortage is a good thing for society, even if it curbs economic growth. In the future, the shortage will be in European spirit. That can only be fixed through repatriation of non-Europeans.
A hundred years ago, we had more space because not so many of us lived in cities. That has been made worse by immigration. Provided you can find a job, it is easier to have children in a small town than in a big city. In France, I think the government has been encouraging the desertification of the countryside and is still doing so today. Their ideal is that each big city should be a cosmopolitan place with no connection to its region and history.
There are many reasons why people have fewer children. One of them, I think, is that people have become more isolated. Without a job, a stay at home mother may feel she doesn’t have enough of a social life. 99024
Posted by the Narrator... on Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:45 | #
Yes it destroys our lives and wallets but it enriches multinational corporations… . 99025
Posted by danielj on Thu, 19 Feb 2009 01:07 | # He makes a couple of false assumptions though, one of which he shares with Bishop Williamson and the Kinists. Namely, that Europe was built and sustained by Christianity rather than genetics. I think you oversimplify here. The argument is that European genes are best exploited and Europeans realize their full potential when the Christian religion is dominant over politics, science, home and hearth. They also make the argument that healthy Christianity would be a much stronger bulwark against neo-liberal rationalist technocracy than any stripe of atheistic, racialist materialism. Additionally, every country is built by the genetics of its respective inhabitants, but not only by their genes. Nations are the blood of a people corporealized and acting within their specific environmental milieu. This environment is partially imposed by nature and partially created by nurture and includes the metaphysics of a people, their epistemology and their teleology. Europe (like the rest of the world) is waaaaaaaaaaay overpopulated and desperately needs a reduction in numbers. That is entirely subjective at this point and a problem reserved only for aestheticians at this point. Also, as James consistently points out, the next carrying capacity miracle could be just around the corner waiting to cause another population explosion. MacDonald does suggest though in SAID that in the Middle Ages the Church was often the only organization that represented the interests of the majority people (e.g. against Jewish usury). This is true although the Church didn’t always do the best job of it. The obvious truth is that society is more comfortable overall when there is a shortage of workers, and wages are high, even if some employers complain that they are not making as much money as they could. Yeah. How come (this question is for you libertarians out there) employers never have to submit to market discipline? That is, why doesn’t a labor shortage simply mean that wages are too low? 99026
Posted by the Narrator... on Thu, 19 Feb 2009 09:57 | #
I know what the argument is but it’s a bad argument. Christianity is far too watery a quality to define in a way strong enough to say who has it and who doesn’t, what it is and what it isn’t. After all the majority of Americans are Christians. http://christianpost.com/Society/Polls_reports/2009/01/most-americans-pick-and-choose-religious-beliefs-12/index.html
The only problem with that assertion is that neo-liberalism (and all of its ideological offspring) came to fruition within “Christendom”, not without.
Nation-states are fairly modern. There have been too many overlapping realms, kingdoms, empires, duchies, etc… over the centuries. I would think a better word to use in place of country would be civilization and specify to the regions within it.
More people = more conflict. Always has, always will.
I’m pretty sure Kmac was referring to the political organization known as the Catholic Church, not the religion it espoused. Of course today Christianity is looking after the interests of the majority (the third world) at the expense of The West.
Beyond that, not having enough workers is like not having enough customers. If you truly lack either then you’ll just have to go under and close shop like everyone else. ... 99027
Posted by danielj on Thu, 19 Feb 2009 11:41 | # I know what the argument is but it’s a bad argument. Christianity is far too watery a quality to define in a way strong enough to say who has it and who doesn’t, what it is and what it isn’t. After all the majority of Americans are Christians. I agree that a majority of people make the claim that they are Christians and but I disagree about how hard it is to define. Historically, it was Catholics and it was continental, Scottish and English versions of Calvinistic, Reformed Protestants that considered themselves, and were, Christians proper and it is the same today. However, you haven’t disputed the premises of the argument or its conclusion and instead are squabbling over a definition. The only problem with that assertion is that neo-liberalism (and all of its ideological offspring) came to fruition within “Christendom”, not without. In fact the majority of Western men still believe there is a god or “higher authority” beyond the material world, so we’ll probably never know (in our lifetimes) what atheistic materialism would have, or could have, done for The West. It did not. As Christianity slowly died, liberalism sprung up as God in His place because God is an inescapable concept. The majority of men believe in some ill defined cosmic grandfather who looks down with benevolence from his starry rocking chair but they do not believe in the Christian God of yore. Our leaders, the media, the schools and the professorial class are already living and espousing an atheistic materialist worldview so we will (at least I will, being only 25) see the fruit of this philosophy in our lifetime. Protestantism, for example, is a natural worldview for Northern/Germanic peoples. In fact reading through Tacitus you could easily say that the Germanic peoples were Protestant Pagans who later became Protestant Christians. In other words people form and inform Christianity, not the other way around. I essentially agreed with this, but I will again if you like. Protestantism was also a worldview of Huguenots and, if we are technical, the Eastern Orthodox are a form of Protestant as well. Africans, Chinese, Japanese and Koreans do not practice the same Protestantism as Whites. The Koreans, unlike the Africans, even have churches with proper Reformed doctrine but still have a different flavor than a “Dutch” style church. God has no problem with diversity of practice. More people = more conflict. Always has, always will. It is just a mathematical proportion so although there is more conflict over all, it really doesn’t concern me. The only limitation is our ability to exploit the Earth. I’m pretty sure Kmac was referring to the political organization known as the Catholic Church, not the religion it espoused. Yes, but what did they gain from standing up to the dukes for the peasants? It wasn’t exactly self-interest that motivated them. There was very little emancipation of serfs that wasn’t forced by philosophy, religion and government. I think what little voluntary emancipation that was done, was done in England. The Church stood up for the poor, although not always perfectly but at least they tried. Of course today Christianity is looking after the interests of the majority (the third world) at the expense of The West. That in and of itself is enough to eternally condemn it. To condemn the institution of the Church as it is currently manifested, yes. No such thing as a right to succeed…. Stupid Randians seem to think there is. 99028
Posted by Dasein on Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:47 | # Narrator, I would think your estimate of 8% non-Whites is pretty good. The biggest group of racial aliens is the Turks, who number just over 2 million. There was a report recently on integration which singled out the Turks (and Middle Easterners) as especially unwilling to integrate. I made a comment about this on the Junge Freiheit website (a sort of New Right paper, although they now disavow that label), saying that the fact that Turks stay to themselves (93% of Turks marry within their ethny) is actually good news, and that our goal shouldn’t be integration, and we should thank these Turks for not participating in that aspect of our genocide. It didn’t make it out of moderation though, which surprised me a bit- I’ve commented there before without problem. There was a lot of fanfare in the press a year or two back presenting Germany’s transition to an immigration nation as a fait accompli. It was something like 20%+ of the population that fell into this category (many of whom would be Germans returning from Eastern territories and Eastern Europeans). The failure to break this down by ethnicity is a good way to resign Germans to the import of millions more Turks and Africans. The situation in the big cities is frightening. I heard on the radio recently that something like 50% of kids entering school in Nuremberg have an immigrant background (probably mostly Turkish, Middle Eastern, African, though they didn’t break it down). Maybe if the statistics from this age cohort were presented more often, it would be clearer to Whites that they are being race-replaced. At least those who think beyond their own lifetime would take notice.
Yes, you’re right. My point was only to say that European elites have in the past also worked against the ethnic interests of the majority population (who knows what they would have done if they were able to import millions of Africans). Some people (I’m not saying you) glorify the rulers from the past, saying they would not race-replace us. I think this danger was always there, and the push provided by Jewish groups has perhaps not met with that much less resistance now than it would have in many parts of Europe back then. But I think the peasants then would have openly revolted, so the elites would have quickly trashed the idea. There were no media or academia to inform these beknighted peasants that race doesn’t exist (and that they would look better as mullatos) and that defending their ethnic interests is a mental illness.
It’s the political organizations of Christianity in the West today that are to be condemned, not Christianity itself. If there were healthy expressions of it in the past, I don’t see why they can’t return. I’d take members of the SSPX over your average citizen (who is a brainwashed liberal) any day. 99029
Posted by Dasein on Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:57 | # That wasn’t an intentional pun, I got carried away into the era. The actions of the peasants would have been knightly, made possible by their ‘benighted’ state. 99030
Posted by the Narrator... on Thu, 19 Feb 2009 13:43 | #
Except that Protestants didn’t (and most still don’t) consider Catholics or Eastern Orthodox to be Christians.
Because your assertion is based on the ability to define the subject of its premise. I’ve known Christians who didn’t believe that Jesus was born of a virgin or rose from the dead. I’ve even met Christians who don’t believe Jesus even existed to begin with. Case in point, I was brought up Christian and went to a Christian school. I was taught (and believed) by Pastors and teachers that Christianity didn’t arrive in Europe until after the time of Martin Luther. Or rather, what few Christians there were, were living in caves and the forest to escape persecution from the devil’s minions, aka “Papists”. But then as I also asserted, I believe Christianity is formed and informed by people. In Europe Christianity was simply the new name given to indigenous European Paganism. It’s only original contribution was the thing for which I begrudge it so much, Universalism.
Well, theism appears to be an inescapable concept, but we’ll never know now. But your assertion above is rather bold as most Western Peoples considered themselves Christians up until about 90 years ago. ( Modern liberalism sprang up in their midst centuries before then) In fact it would appear that the majority of Westerners still consider themselves Christians. So they were/are liars, lunatics or they were what they claimed to be, Christians.
A lifetime is very VERY short.
The Christian God has no problem with diversity period. The West does.
It’s a question of Quality of Life.
Don’t forget that on a few occasions the peasants overthrew and beheaded the lords and kings. There were power struggles throughout Europe between the Catholic church and the royals. Especially in the North. 9 times out of 10, the answer to a Why is, Money.
The “Church” is based on a philosophical worldview that espouses Universalism. That, is the problem. It isn’t the building that’s faulty. It’s the blueprints….
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Posted by Colin Laney on Thu, 19 Feb 2009 13:46 | #
This claim and claims like it, seen all over the internet, or at least where particular Christians congregate, is flatly wrong. The suicidal erasure of the self-other distinction demanded by Christ (please note, not “Christianity”) was well in effect before “liberalism”, feminism, cultural Marxism, Bolshevism or any of its other toxic metabolites. I think we can all agree that 1607 might afford us a look at the ‘pristine’ Christianity that purportedly existed, prior to its ‘subversion’ by any of the above malefactors. At the very least, it would have to be admitted by the Christianist faction that Christian practitioners of 1607 would at least qualify as worshipping the Christian God ‘of yore’. http://vdare.com/carter/070513_jamestown.htm
I propose that Thorpe’s case demonstrates a deeper pathology at work in the Christian worldview that is going to have to be dealt with more honestly in the future. It is not enough to pretend that it arose ex nihilo in the XXth century, or that a good and valiant religious system was undermined by sneaky Bolsheviks and ‘liberals’ only very recently. By my reckoning, the arrow of causation goes from race-hostile Christianity to liberalism, Bolshevism, etc. and not the reverse. 99032
Posted by the Narrator... on Thu, 19 Feb 2009 14:17 | #
Sorry to hear it. I was hoping I was wrong. Sometimes it is hard to interpret the demographic in Europe because the issue is cast in terms of foreigners regardless of race. The ever useless Wikipedia states that Whites make up around 95% of Europe. Factoring in Eastern Europe that may be true.
I’m no expert on this but I think back then one thing that worked in our favor was the fact that crowns and significant titles went to the first born sons. The other sons were, essentially, pushed into a middle-class type situation. But that’s just conjecture. There are always more variables at work that complicate and exacerbate matters. Jews being a good example.
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Posted by colin laney on Thu, 19 Feb 2009 15:13 | # God has no problem with diversity of practice. That’s not what I hear. Does the phrase ‘extra ecclesiam’ ring a bell? There are also outstanding questions about the use of (graven?) imagery in the RCRO and the nature of the veneration of the Virgin - latria, dulia, or hyperdulia? For some, a critical question. Does God’s inclusiveness - in your view - extend to ‘hyperdulia’ for the Virgin? There is also the ever troublesome filioque, and I believe there are still open questions about the proper method of baptism. Of course neither of these come close to the Arian controversy, of which Gibbon observed “the profane of every age have derided the furious contests which the difference of a single diphthong excited between the Homoousians and the Homoiousians”. Not to mention that the Eastern Church denies Augustinian Original Sin and all that follows from that, including the atoning sacrifice of Christ. For the Orthodox, Christ’s life and incarnation make possible theosis, the assimilation of man to God. To them, Western atonement theology - Roman and Protestant - is one long morbid Augustinian error that distorts and degrades the true meaning of Christ’s Incarnation. To which I say: that’s putting it mildly! It does no good to brag about a God who left you a big book of specific instructions (as opposed to the clockmaker god) if they don’t matter, and no one is to be held to task for violating them. And surely the big book of instructions provides a privileged hermeneutic by which it is to be interpreted? I mean, if it didn’t, that could lead to thousands of years of totalitarianism, schismatic movements, and unending war. Which might tend, in some eyes, to bring the whole project into disrepute. Don’t forget that on a few occasions the peasants overthrew and beheaded the lords and kings. There were power struggles throughout Europe between the Catholic church and the royals. Especially in the North. The Guelph/ Ghibelline conflict was regarded by many notables, including Dante and Evola, as being a pivotal conflict for the the soul of the West. And though I endorse KMac’s generally positive reading of the political activities of the Church, there are a lot of misdeeds in the other column, many of which are never publicly discussed. What was the effect on the European population of herding everyone with curiosity or reading skills into a condition of celibacy? I’ve never seen a good breakdown of what must have been a profound eugenic effect. And, of course, there’s the Church’s cardinal sin, the ushering of the Jews unscathed through history (for details, please see the works of Franz Rosenzweig). Though other opponents of the Church disappeared (I am now thinking of the Cathars) through the use of the most extreme forms of violence (the total genocide of the Albigensian region), the Jews emerged unscathed from 1500 years of Catholic shepherding and have positively thrived under the loving ministrations of Protestants, who have been falling all over themselves for the last five hundred years to give them unquestioned control of the whole world. Does it strike anyone else here as odd that the men of the west have been more or less trying continuously to hold Jersusalem - “The Holy Land” - since, oh, forever? Don’t we have anything better to do with our lives and treasure than to secure the ‘shitty little country’ in perpetuity to satisfy the grandiose unto psychotic whims of the People of the Lie? Think about it - from Richard II all the way up to Arthur Balfour -what more profound continuity in English history is there than the attempt to secure and hold “The Holy Land”, at whatever cost? An imperative now inherited by Americans, whose participation in reason is blunted by reason of their vulgar Protestantism. They don’t call it the “Common Era” for nothing. Securing Jerusalem and placing Jews atop a world system erected by Aryans seems to be a major occult dynamic of Western history where “The West” is clearly understood to be an extended phenotype of Judah/ Judaism, and soon to be tossed on the scrap heap of history, its main jobs completed. I think Englishmen and Americans need to give themselves a little pat on the back here. They’ve done more than anyone else in history - including the Jews themselves! - to bring about the Messianic Age. Surely this should take the edge off any pain experienced during our dispossesion and murder at the hands of Mexicans, Negroes, and Muslims, who along with the Asian technocratic elite, will toil and manage the world that Jews now rule. We’re hardly in a position to complain, since when we adopted the Jewish holy books as our own, they told the truth about what was to be our fate: Exodus 23:27 “I will send my fear before thee, and will destroy all the people to whom thou shalt come” Psalms 2:8-9 “Ask of me, and I will make the nations your heritage, and the ends of the earth your possession. You shall break them with a rod of iron, and dash them in pieces like a potter’s vessel.” Isaiah 60:1-12 “Foreigners shall build up your walls, and their kings shall minister to you; your gates shall be open continually; day and night they shall not be shut; that men may bring to you the wealth of the nations, with their kings led in procession. For the nation and kingdom that will not serve you shall perish; those nations shall be utterly laid waste.” Zephaniah 3:8 “Therefore wait ye upon me, saith the LORD, until the day that I rise up to the prey: for my determination is to gather the nations, that I may assemble the kingdoms, to pour upon them mine indignation, even all my fierce anger: for all the earth shall be devoured with the fire of my jealousy.” And so on, and so on, ad nauseam . . . The nightmare outside your front door is the answer to the question, what happens when you worship a god who hates you? Well, now you know. And you can’t say you weren’t warned. Traditionally, we Americans take a very dim view of those who sign on to contracts that they haven’t read or considered at some length. I see no reason to end that tradition now. 99034
Posted by Guessedworker on Thu, 19 Feb 2009 15:36 | # The denizens of the Guardian’s CiF lay into the SSPX. Some poor fool defends it. 99035
Posted by Fred Scrooby on Thu, 19 Feb 2009 15:58 | #
“Wynnstow” in that Guardian thread is no fool, GW (something tells me you’re not beyond being persuaded of that, on reconsidering .....). The man Horn who wrote the execrable essay being commented on over there is clearly simply a Jew tooting the solipsistic Jewish horn — nothing new here: same old same old. I could write that pure narcisso-solipsistic Jewish boilerplate in my sleep. I recognize only two possible Catholicisms today: Bishop Williamson’s group and the Sedevacantists. All else claiming to represent Catholicism is an impostor ...... or worse. 99036
Posted by Dasein on Thu, 19 Feb 2009 16:08 | #
Hart reasons in UHH that there was no dysgenic effect on IQ (based on IQ comparisons between Eastern and Western Europe). Could be any of several reasons for this, some conjecture on my part: the % of priests was too low to affect the gene pool significantly, priests were not always celibate, priests were able to increase the reproductive fitness of their immediate family members, priests acted to direct eugenic mating habits in their parishes. Using this same reasoning, you could argue that their celibacy would also have affected distribution of the heriditary basis for faith (which would be an interesting theory for the secularization of the West). Unless of course one assumes they were no more faithful than the average person or other high-IQ peasants whose faith would have made them try harder to join the Church. But if the faith allele(s) became rarer, we should have become more resistant to Judeophilia, assuming the connection to Christianity which has been posited. 99037
Posted by Dasein on Thu, 19 Feb 2009 16:17 | # The ‘same reasoning’ I’m referring to is that quoted from CL’s post. It could be argued that the basis for Hart’s thesis is wrong, and that Western Europeans started off with higher average IQs than Eastern Europeans and the dysgenic effect of celibate priesthood whittled away this gap. Not saying I believe this myself, just pointing out an assumption of Hart’s (I personally don’t think there was a dysgenic effect in terms of IQ- there could still have been a ‘dysgenic’ or ‘eugenic’ effect on faith, choose whichever adjective you prefer!). 99038
Posted by Guessedworker on Thu, 19 Feb 2009 16:42 | # I would certainly say, Fred, that Wynnstow bears all the hallmarks of someone who is actively trying to say the unsayable under the censor’s nose. 99039
Posted by Armor on Thu, 19 Feb 2009 17:23 | #
It is questionable whether George Thorpe, the first American diversicrat, was evil or stupid (or under Jewish influence through too much Bible reading!). But today’s race-replacers and race-mixers are clearly malicious, and not directly inspired by the Christian tradition. They are the kind who like to take a crap in a field of snow. They are not interested in helping third-worlders, they just want to hurt us. Their actions contradict the “message of love” that we are supposed to find in the New Testament. If we kick their butts to jerk them back to reality and make them understand more clearly that what they are doing is wrong, they will not turn the other cheek, they will react viciously and try to have us thrown in jail. I bet George Thorpe was not like that. I agree with the Narrator that not all self-described Christians are the same. Some of them are friendly and helpful, others want to destroy our lives. I think it isn’t clear in the first place what Jesus Christ was trying to say to his apostles. 99040
Posted by Guessedworker on Thu, 19 Feb 2009 17:54 | # Fred, “This comment has been removed by a moderator. Replies may also be deleted.”
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Posted by Guessedworker on Thu, 19 Feb 2009 18:46 | # Everything by Wynnstow has been removed by the moderator, and he has been banned! 99042
Posted by Fred Scrooby on Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:23 | # GW, do Jews have input at the Guardian or is it an entirely English-run outfit? 99043
Posted by Guessedworker on Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:24 | # Fred, It is the least Jewish of any MSM or MSM group I know. I would characterise it as core liberal. That’s at the top of the organisation, of course. There are many Jewish journalists and contributors, naturally. And down among the lowly moderators, who knows? Certainly from my experiences the three subjects that get one’s comments deleted are: native English rights (eventually, with a ban at the second or third thread-crime); black sociobiology (immediately, with an immediate ban highly probable), Jewish malfeisance (immediately, with a certain ban). The dumb-liberal brain desease they all suffer from is “Rid the World of Hate”. They have no idea that they are suffering from a mind-virus or where this virus was incubated, and cannot be told because that’s “hate”. But as I’ve said before, I do not mind what mental desease these goofs are suffering from. It isn’t them I am trying to reach. It’s the hundreds and, probably, thousands of readers who never comment. Next to each post is a recommend button, whereby readers can click their approval. Just beneath it is a report button where they can snitch on the “racist” and the “hater”. I get a lot more recommends than my opponents. I also get snitched on, which obviously they don’t. Currently, I am banned by the supposedly right-wing Telegraph. I’ve tried posting a bland comment on a neutral thread with another name, and it did not appear either. So I presume that this is an IP-ban. Time to switch on Anonymizer. 99044
Posted by Fred Scrooby on Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:58 | #
That doubtless angers them even more, accelerating your banning. Can’t have the readership imagining they prefer <strike>the truth</strike> hate to <strike>left-wing propaganda</strike> the truth, now can we. How dare you do that to their readership, confusing them like that! Fascist! 99045
Posted by danielj on Thu, 19 Feb 2009 22:42 | # The Narrator & Colin: There is simply too much to address. Perhaps I will get to it this weekend. 99046
Posted by Guessedworker on Fri, 20 Feb 2009 02:48 | # From The Times:-
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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Fri, 20 Feb 2009 03:42 | # Williamson’s roasting over the coals which is now more and more going to unfold is incontrovertible proof of Jewish power. Full stop. End of story. One can be certain the Jews are throwing everything they have into a behind-the-scenes fight to destroy Bishop Williamson. They CANNOT let him get away with it because if cracks like this open in the quietly-decided-behind-closed-doors post-war agreement to replace whites with mystery meat, Christianity with Ho£ocau$t™ Worship, and Western national economies with tribute payments one way or another to the West’s Jewish Oligarchs and the State of Israel the entire system could come crashing down. We don’t see the fight itself because it’s raging behind the scenes. That vicious, filthy Guardian piece by Andrew Horn was of course part of it, part of one tip of the unseen iceberg. Messages are frantically going back and forth among Jews concerning how this bishop will be brought down, and this Jew Horn stepped up and did his bit. It’s all to be orchestrated. For the Jews this is war. Everything we’ve seen so far that’s been against Bishop Williamson has been part of it and there’s way more to come. The Jews are going to flay this man alive. I believe we will definitely see the Vatican cave to Jewish pressure. That’s how strong the West’s Jews have become in the war’s aftermath: they give the United States, Canada, the U.K., France, and the Vatican their marching orders. Of course another manifestation of that is the Jewish imposition of race-replacement of every Eurosphere country in existence. Catholics everywhere must write, e-mail, telepone, and personally visit, to express support for this Bishop. The Jewish Oligarchs who control us in the West are no more invincible than the Russian version before Putin sorted them out. 99048
Posted by Desmond Jones on Fri, 20 Feb 2009 04:10 | #
Not exactly.
The utility of Jews over Cathars is explained by Dr. Jones examination of the Polish arenda system.
The Jews were the perfectly foil for the Polish nobility and the Catholic Church. The immutable Jew, racially and religiously forever, ineluctably superior renders the greatest profit from the lesser gentile. The nobles use the new found wealth to expand their territory, further increasing their wealth and the opportunity for their church to add new followers and thus increase its wealth and power. Wilson:
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Posted by the Narrator... on Fri, 20 Feb 2009 09:50 | #
Danielj it wasn’t my intention to be part of a tag team. You do an admirable job of defending your faith. If you want to continue debating here fine, but if not don’t worry about it. I forget or don’t have time to go back and check up on every comment I’ve made on various posts and I’m sure the same is true for you and others. We can always pick up the conversation again in another post. One thing I will say in regards to the persecution of Bishop Williamson is that it should shock people around the globe. The only thing that can be compared to it today is the persecution defectors of Islam face in Muslim nations. And that’s what the Holocaust should be compared to. Islam. If you’ll pardon me going theological for a moment, The Holocaust is a religion, not an event. It is promoted as the faith to replace Christianity. In this new narrative the jews themselves replace Christ on the cross and Auschwitz replaces Calvary. Belief in the Holocaust is, to use Biblical Parlance, the Abomination of Desolation. It is intended to be (in the minds of men) the sacrifice (Holocaust means burnt offering) that replaces Christ on the cross. Interestingly enough the phrase Anti-christ generally translate to, In place of Christ. So it would no be inaccurate to say that Holocaustianity is the religion of the Antichrist. ... 99050
Posted by Dasein on Fri, 20 Feb 2009 10:55 | # If it is to be a tag team, I nominate this man for the Christian side:
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Posted by danielj on Fri, 20 Feb 2009 12:02 | # Danielj it wasn’t my intention to be part of a tag team. I’m well aware and worry free. You do an admirable job of defending your faith. If you want to continue debating here fine, but if not don’t worry about it. Thank you very much. I forget or don’t have time to go back and check up on every comment I’ve made on various posts and I’m sure the same is true for you and others. We can always pick up the conversation again in another post. I simply meant the same thing. I’m not sure whether or not everybody here works full time but I do and it sometimes gets in the way of my thinking and posting. The Holocaust is a religion, not an event. It is promoted as the faith to replace Christianity. In this new narrative the jews themselves replace Christ on the cross and Auschwitz replaces Calvary. Indeed! I’m not sure where I picked it up but it was probably an HR site talking about the Jews interpreting their own “suffering” during the second global fratricidal conflict as bringing “salvation” to the world. As if they themselves, in the collective, are Messiah the Prince. Interestingly enough the phrase Anti-christ generally translate to, In place of Christ. So it would no be inaccurate to say that Holocaustianity is the religion of the Antichrist. Yes, in the Greek it can and does imply “in steed of” or “instead of” and not simply “against.” Holocaustianity, Onebloodianity, No rated R movieanity, No profanityanity and a slew of other silly rules they’ve made up. 99052
Posted by Guessedworker on Fri, 20 Feb 2009 13:56 | # Quite an interesting show of support on that Times thread about Williamson’s expulsion from Argentina - especially given the pre-moderated format of the Times, which will weed out the slightest hint of holobusting sympathies. There will have been more support that didn’t make it onto the page. 99053
Posted by the Narrator... on Fri, 20 Feb 2009 14:26 | #
Well, I tried. ... 99054
Posted by Svigor on Sat, 21 Feb 2009 00:55 | #
I was saying this on Stormfront years ago. If we got 1 million white men to contribute 1000 dollars a year, we could own Washington lock, stock, and barrel. So maybe Soros & co. would send around the kiddie and outbid us the next year. At least we’d be in the fight, and making them pay for their genocidal programs. “They” know this too, which is why they police us so closely, why they fight so hard, why they act so psycho. They can’t let whites get a whiff of reality, or game over. The interest on 1 billion dollars could do an amazing amount of good. For that matter, that billion dollars could send income taxes packing too. Clearly the elite has its shit together, and we do not. 99055
Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sat, 21 Feb 2009 01:01 | # I was just reading this page at the Adelaide Institute web-site, http://www.adelaideinstitute.org/Dissenters1/Rudolf/Auschwitz_liberated_occupied.htm , which highlights inconsistencies in accounts of the ©Ho£o€au$t®™, including ones originating with Elie Weaselwords. 99056
Posted by Svigor on Sat, 21 Feb 2009 01:02 | #
Pretty much sums up my thinking on the matter. 99057
Posted by Lurker on Sat, 21 Feb 2009 03:52 | # I’ve been pitching in on that Guardian thread, not been barred yet. 99058
Posted by Dasein on Sun, 22 Feb 2009 22:54 | # Fred, here’s the interview I was mentioning: http://www.jungefreiheit.de/Archiv.364.0.html Some highlights:
I realized that most posters from Europe will have no idea who that man in my link was. It’s ‘Dude Love’, one of the multiple personalities of WWF wrestler Mick Foley (the others, Mankind and Cactus Jack, also appropriate for the Christian theme). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dude_Love Here he is bustin a move: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k03Dp3Xzpd4&feature=related Just one last comment on my part on the theme of Christianity. Perhaps Jesus’ sacrifice is best understood as the sacralization of altruism and kin selection. An update to the rule book and an offer to all other races to partake of the covenant. Because altruism only makes evolutionary sense if it increases one’s fitness, each race is to behave in a Christian manner amongst its own members (Old Testament rules may apply to those outside the group). Suicidal immigration policies are thus anti-Christian. 99059
Posted by Fred Scrooby on Mon, 23 Feb 2009 00:01 | # Dasein, thanks very much for that link to Junge Freiheit. I guess their site’s temporarily down, but I did find the site on my own the other day after you mentioned it, and I browsed it — I like it and plan on making regular visits there.
I’m certain it must be childsplay for a theologian to verify that race-replacement is not only not mandated by Christianity, it’s opposed by it: 1) Christianity which forbids acquiescence in suicide is going to allow acquiescence in race-suicide, a far worse crime? And if race-suicide isn’t a far worse crime than suicide, genocide can’t be a far worse crime than murder, as the principle making the latter far worse is the same that makes the former far worse. So since no one denies that genocide is a crime far worse than murder, by the same principle race-suicide must be a far worse crime than suicide, and if Christianity opposed the latter it must at least equally if not all the more oppose the former. 2) Taking a precious inheritance away from others is oppposed by Christianity, and what inheritance is more precious than one’s race? So race-replacement, which takes a precious inheritance away from every generation unborn, must be opposed by Christianity. 3) Christian compassion denies Marxism’s requirement that Christians give all property and savings to the poor, so must also deny Cultural Marxism’s requirement that Christians give race and nation to the Third World poor since these are Christians’ dearest property. 4) We saw in Bishop Williamson’s 2005 explanation that men’s equality, according to Christianity, is before God and part of the eternal life to come, NOT before men or part of this present life. 5) And so on, and so forth: there is without any doubt an overwhelming case to be made in Christian theology against forced race-replacement provided of course no one resorts to meanness or injustice (and the setting of reasonable nation-and-race-preserving immigration policy is in no way mean or unjust). J’ACCUSE! I ACCUSE the Vatican of collaboration in genocide by its deliberate failure to 1) point this out to Catholics, that they are NOT required to accept their own genocide by excessive immigration of the racially unlike, and 2) by their failure to set their theologians to work to further clarify this issue where it may need further clarification. The Vatican has done NOTHING of what it should have done in this regard and therefore is guilty of aiding and abetting genocide. 99060
Posted by Fred Scrooby on Wed, 25 Feb 2009 07:24 | # I don’t understand the following log entry: http://turnabout.ath.cx:8000/node/2786 I read it four times, then a fifth time slowly and carefully. But Kalb is sometimes like that — you have to be familiar with his vocabulary, otherwise you can read it as many times as you want, you won’t understand it. 99061
Posted by Dasein on Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:50 | # Fred, I also read it and found it confusing. From my reading, one problem is that Kalb starts by repeating a dubious claim by Weigel and does not challenge it.
This seems quite a stretch to me. I think the fairer interpretation is that Lefebvre was upset that the Catholic Church had given up its claim to universality. And Kalb’s response to Weigel’s claim is confused:
No, it’s not hard to explain, because Vatican II was just one rite in the ascendancy of the Holocaust to the new European civil religion. It’s perhaps ironic (if one were to accept Weigel’s dubious assertion), but it’s hardly surprising. It seems Weigel is admitting that enforcement of this new civil religion occurs via state coercion (without ever showing that Lefebvre wanted to do things like put Europeans in jail for questioning Christian dogma). The rest of Kalb’s article made more sense to me. The public order will always have a religious dimension; there is no such thing as a secular society. 99062
Posted by Fred Scrooby on Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:06 | # Dasein, I understand Kalb’s entry a little better now, thanks to your explanations. (I had tried to understand it without reading the Newsweek article: I hate reading Newsweek, which is part of this country’s Jewish anti-Euro press. I always avoid reading anything in it, to the extent I can avoid it.) 99063
Posted by Dasein on Wed, 25 Feb 2009 20:18 | # Fred, I normally would avoid it too, but I was curious to see what George Weigel was saying. I used to like reading his stuff, once upon a time. BTW, I saw on the news that Bishop Williamson has flown to the UK. There was footage of some reporter harassing him at the airport. I thought Phil Rushton’s bagagge handling manoeuvre was a brilliant way to deal with these twits. Don’t know if you’ve seen it, it was linked to on the AmRen news page back in December. Here’s the video, the incident in question is replayed within the first 20 seconds: Meanwhile, Wilders is now on the NA side of the pond, to the cheers of his Jewish pals: 99064
Posted by Guessedworker on Fri, 27 Feb 2009 01:38 | # From Reuters:-
Soi he has taken the line of most resistance that will end the matter, hopefully. Now the ball is in the Jews’ court. If they insist on pursuing prosecution in Germany we will have Toben 2. They won’t get their man , so I suspect they will be prepared to let the matter rest rather than publicise the Bishop’s opinions on the Big H. 99065
Posted by Captainchaos on Fri, 27 Feb 2009 02:05 | # Somebody get Williamson some knee-pads. Fucking coward. 99066
Posted by Fred Scrooby on Fri, 27 Feb 2009 02:14 | # I just checked his blog: there’s nothing about it there. My guess is this apology was written for him by the Vatican and he felt he could honestly sign it since he’s already expressed, at his blog, regret at the furore his statements have caused. There’s no chance whatsoever he’s changed his views. Zero. In this statement he retracts not one jot. His kind doesn’t break or bend, or change his mind every five minutes, or stick a wetted finger up into the wind to decide what he thinks. This is not that kind of man. He’s taking, as GW suggests, the path of least resistance for the time being because he sees no dishonesty in it (and indeed there is none if one reads his statement carefully, none whatsoever) and he doesn’t want to be completely neutralized as a force for good in the Church and in the world. He sees everything and he gives up nothing. 99067
Posted by Armor on Fri, 27 Feb 2009 02:40 | #
A smart man ! 99068
Posted by when sub sub humans attack on Fri, 27 Feb 2009 02:51 | # Williamson says 911 an inside job. 99069
Posted by Fred Scrooby on Fri, 27 Feb 2009 04:20 | #
He’s not alone. Lots of level-headed observers suspect that certain elements in D.C. were complicit in 9-11. Paul Craig Roberts, himself a D.C. insider, is one such. Here are a few others, men who’ve had long careers in U.S. intelligence and know a thing or two about “inside jobs”: http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_alan_mil_070922_seven_cia_veterans_c.htm I for one don’t have an opinion on this subject. I go with the standard version but it wouldn’t surprise me any more (it would have at one time) to learn some faction in D.C. was indeed complicit. 99070
Posted by ben tillman on Sun, 01 Mar 2009 06:49 | #
That’s the default assumption—and the only evidence to the contrary is the testimony of the prime suspect. The US government was the only one with both the motive and the opportunity to pull it off. Res ipsa loquitur. 99071
Posted by Captainchaos on Sun, 08 Mar 2009 17:19 | # So what is Williamson’s reward for begging the Jews for forgiveness? Nothing. None less than a full retraction will do. You should have stuck to your guns, Williamson, or kept your mouth shut to begin with. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090227/ap_on_re_eu/eu_vatican_holocaust_denial “An apology from a bishop who denied the Holocaust wasn’t good enough, the Vatican said Friday, adding that he must repudiate his views if he wants to be a Roman Catholic clergyman. The statement by Bishop Richard Williamson “doesn’t appear to respect the conditions” the Vatican set out for him, said the Rev. Federico Lombardi, a spokesman for the pope.”“ 99072
Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sun, 08 Mar 2009 23:18 | # Regarding what CC quotes just above: That’s the Jews pressuring the Vatican behind the scenes, and nothing else. The pressure they’re bringing to bear on the Vatican right now must be staggering and it’s not primarily from specifically “Jewish” groups: it’s also from Jew-influenced U.S. government agencies, Jewish-run or -influenced European national governments, Jewish-run or -influenced NGOs, and so on. The Vatican takes its orders from the Jews now. (“Are we powerful or what?,” as FB would imagine them saying to themselves.) 99073
Posted by Armor on Mon, 09 Mar 2009 00:29 | # I wonder if Williamson’s apology was a defense againt judicial attacks or a way to improve relations with the Pope. By the way, maybe Williamson and the Pope have good relations but are not allowed to say so… CC: “So what is Williamson’s reward for begging the Jews for forgiveness? Nothing.” I don’t think it matters. From my point of view, the fact that both Williamson and the Pope have to kowtow to the Jews reflects badly on the Jews, not on Williamson. It helps people realize there is something wrong. 99074
Posted by Fred Scrooby on Mon, 09 Mar 2009 01:48 | #
I hope Catholics see it, though. I hope they see that this is behind-the-scenes Jewish pressure, and enormous pressure at that. 99075
Posted by Al Ross on Mon, 09 Mar 2009 05:01 | # As a student of drumming, danielj, you might ask your tutor if he can demonstrate stick control such as this young Ulsterman possesses. Despite the drummer’s distant historical connection with his ancestral homeland, one can tell from the backdrop flag where his true loyalties lie. 99076
Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sun, 22 Mar 2009 01:59 | # Bishop Williamson lets well-wishers know how he’s doing: http://dinoscopus.blogspot.com/2009/03/dont-cry.html He’s OK — he’s apparently not at liberty to say much apart from he’s fine, he’s holding up well under the pressure, and he’s keeping his mouth SHUT for the time-being, as he’s been instructed to do in no uncertain terms:
He regrets that he was kicked out of Argentina so fast, he didn’t even have time to say a few decent good-byes to dear friends and colleagues there. Finally: it’s clear he is not recanting a word despite pressure on him of a magnitude that would break and crush lesser men. God bless you, Bishop! Post a comment:
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Posted by mnuez on Mon, 16 Feb 2009 06:34 | #
Hey guys, there’s a Jew-fest going on at the bottom of “Progress by Pesach”, you might want to chime in. Goddamn Jews, always looking for attention and advertising themselves. I HATE dem sons of bitches!