How does Bush think he will finally win the war on terror?

Posted by Andrew on August 10, 2007, 10:19 AM | #

I don’t think they have a clue Matt, if anything , the Terrorism war might end when the King of Saudi Arabia becomes the President of the U S A; it seems to be a war of Confusion and a non event- just heaps of dead Soldiers- even American Soldiers being sued in litigation, from American soil , the deaths of Iraqi civilians that the military had cleared of any wrong doing- Not to lawyers and there is Loot to be got.
I will give it 5 odd years and it will be the United States of Arabia.
Some Confused bureaucrat must have stuffed up the paper work.

Posted by Maguire on August 10, 2007, 05:04 PM | #

“anyone really believe Bush attacked Iraq to fight terrorism”

Yes.  In the context of NWO-Judeo-Bush goals the invasion of Iraq makes perfect sense.  I agree with you that it makes no sense from a white national viewpoint.  But this is an NWO- Jewish war so the white viewpoint is irrelevant to the war goals, strategy and tactics.

“This is asymmetric warfare, without frontlines, without territory to pacify and hold, and no clear path to victory.”

All true.  Infinitely worse than ‘Vietnam’.  Nor have the ‘Neocons’ bothered to hide this fact.  People like R. James Woolsey have consistently talked in terms of multi-generational war.

‘Globally’ this is a covert war.  It’s waged first of all by the National Security Agency.  For general information, the NSA is the largest electricity customer in Maryland, it purchases more supercomputers than possibly the rest of planet Earth, employs at least 20,000 directly and probably another 100,000 contractors.  And of course it can task and access world wide data feeds from every DoD asset in existence, plus “Echelon”, plus taps and bugs unknown and likely unknowable by any one person, including NSA’s director.

It’s waged by the Clandestine Service of the CIA, by targeted killings by fire team size strike forces, back alley assassinations, TOW missiles launched from Predator drones, bribery, bombs on private aircraft, extra-judicial renditions, kidnappings, hostage takings, torture, et al.  Tactics used by BOTH sides.

It’s waged by Mi-5, MI-6, by the Special Air Service, by Interpol, by the Bundesnachrichtendienst, by the FSB and by agencies unknown and probably unnamed.

Iraq.

1.  What Bush and his NWO Jewish-Israeli handlers did was set up a battle space in Iraq.  Doing this permitted the employment of conventional ground combat units that could otherwise play little part in the ‘War On Terror’, but have to be maintained anyway.  This ‘theatre of operations’ has provided an easy target and concentrated strikepoint to attract jihadis from around the world, just like a lightning rod.

They have consistently limited this forward deployment to a very sustainable 1/3 of the conventional ground force.  And they have made it more sustainable yet by activating and wearing out the Army National Guard.  Do not be deceived by claims the Army is becoming ‘broken’.  The Generals and the military-industrial complex always talk this way at budget time. 

The Army now has a new generation ‘hard corps’ who are institutionalized to a war-time Army.  And at least half of them have already tried going back to civilian life before reenlisting.  It’s of no avail because they’re permanently addicted to adrenalin.  Put crudely, they enjoy killing and living a barracks - whorehouse -international adventure lifestyle in between deployments.

‘Asymmetrical’ in the extreme.  On the one side is a group who believes dying for their cause is righteous.  On the other side is a group which has learned to enjoy obliging them, and without any muss ‘n fuss about noncombatants who may get caught in between.

And out of this group of hardened killers the black ops forces are now getting their pick of battle tested Bourne Identity personalities.  It all happened before in Vietnam.  MACV Studies and Observation Group was composed of veterans, not virgins. 

‘Iraq’ also conveniently provides a strike point on the Sunni-Shi’ite fault line.  Setting the goyim against each other is millenia old Jewish strategy, and comprises their first grand strategic goal.

2.  The ‘jihadis’ are extremely decentralized and have no hierarchical chain of command.  This makes them very difficult to root out and defeat given their near global dispersion.  It also makes it impossible for the movement as a whole to refuse battle even when strategy would dictate otherwise.  Recruits and soldiers naturally gravitate towards leaders with the most notches on their pistols.

The jihadi movement has clearly lost the ‘initiative’. 

“It seems to me that the only effective way of fighting terrorism is to control national borders and stem the easy flow of weapons and terrorists.”

From a white view point, certainly.  But if you did that then domestic support for the ‘War On Terror’ and much else would disappear. 

“What is interesting is that the Christian millenarian fundamentalists in the United States mirror the Islamic terrorists’ jihadist mission”

i.e. the people whose pro-Zionist views are derived from the Oxford University Press published “Scofield Study Bible” with its hundreds of Judeo-centric interpretative footnotes. 

Intellectually and spiritually they mirror the jihadis, maybe.  But their actual influence on events and policy is zero.  Their designed role is to politically organize domestic support for the program and sucker in gullible cannon fodder.

Posted by Matra on August 10, 2007, 05:19 PM | #

It seems to me that the only effective way of fighting terrorism is to control national borders

I’ve made this argument on conservative blogs and have almost always got the exact same response: Globalisation is inevitable. You can’t shut yourself off from the world, therefore you have to change Muslim societies to democracies so that they have a stake in the international system. When this happens they will be able to compete with Europe and Asia in the economic sphere and secular liberalism will replace the tribalism and fundamentalism we see today.

Historical inevitability is now something self-proclaimed conservatives believe in.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on August 10, 2007, 08:55 PM | #

In re Matra’s comment of 5:19, you can have economic “globalization” without succumbing to domestic race-replacement.  That’s obvious but don’t expect the zomboid brain-dead who hang out at Jim Robinson’s Kool-Aid bar to fathom it — they’re still working on two plus two.  Japan and China are managing very nicely to participate in the world economy without changing their populations to Negro (not to mention India and every non-Eurosphere country in the world).  Of course if Japan had the Jewish race-replacement machinery to contend with that we have, with (Jewish-run) Japanese ADL, ACLU, and SPLC franchises and so on; Michael Eisner and the other pro-race-replacement Hollywood Jews making all the Japs’ movies and TV programs for them; Jews making up 40% to 60% of Japan’s CEOs, millionaires, and billionaires 99.9999999999999% percent of whom were intense political partisans favoring race-replacement and contributing heavily to groups and parties toward that end; pro-race-replacement Jews outright owning 60% to 70% of one of their two major political parties and 40% to 50% of the other; heavy Jewish infiltration of the national government and its many bureaucracies; and so on — if the Japs had that to contend with you’d see nothing but Negro faces on Japanese TV and in Japanese movies, all the women in Jap movies would be shagging Negroes with no Jap men anywhere in sight, racial quotas would be in place guaranteeing the minorityhood of Japs in every phase of national life, you’d have books by Alon Ziv extolling the beauty, intelligence, and superior health of half-Jap/half-Negro kids, you’d have Holocaust Museums every fifty-to-a-hundred yards throughout the length and breadth of Japan, Japan’s top ten cities would be no-go zones modeled after Detroit and full of imported Negroes who didn’t use to be there thirty years ago then suddenly over five or ten years began filling the place up, there’d be open borders and a diversity lottery for entry into Japan (don’t look for a diversity lottery for entry into Israel, noooooooooooo), and we’d all be hearing from the regulars at Jim Robinson’s Kool-Aid bar about how inevitable it was that Japan’s demographics were going to evolve into a majority Negro national demographic profile and there was nothing anyone could do about it because it was a force of nature like a hurricane or an earthquake.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on August 11, 2007, 02:30 AM | #

“ ‘Fred Scrooby,’ why don’t you dump these obvious losers and join the winning team?” (—Pax Judaïca)

Oh, haven’t you heard?  I’m way ahead of you:  that’s what I’ve done.  We — myself and the comrades here, and those of us elsewhere — we’re the winning team.  Right, you may not see that now, but ... you will ... The other side’s days are numbered, friend.  Hey, care to join us?  There’s still time, you know ... Think about it.  (If not, when the crunch for your side comes, look me up — I’ll put in a good word for you.)

By the way, “glib”?  Gee ... and here I flattered myself I showed depth and sincerity — I can see I’ve gotta work more on my delivery ...

Posted by Steve Edwards on August 11, 2007, 07:57 AM | #

The present system hasn’t a hope of outlasting a sustained economic downturn. But what comes next will be interesting to see. The other day, I was mulling over the establishment’s penchant for bankrolling marxist ideas (through the Ford Foundation and friends) and even marxist regimes (such as the Bolshevik Revolution) throughout history. Then it occurred to me - marxism isn’t simply one of the two steps in the NWO dialectic, it’s actually the NWO’s Plan B if global capitalism collapses (the notion that it was ever a genuine “revolutionary” movement simply isn’t entertained by serious people anymore).

Clearly, the whole point of marxism is to redirect native dissent away from the true cause of everyone’s woes. Whenever people can feel that things aren’t working so well, that’s right where the marxists jump in with their “class” analysis* (which differs from the NWO line ONLY in this “class” respect - every other marxist ideological tenet is identical to modern liberalism). Dressed up in “revolutionary” rhetoric, its real purpose is actually counterrevolutionary - to channel opposition to the NWO into an establishment-friendly cause that solidifies their position.

Thus, just as “ex"-marxist leaders of the pre-1989 Soviet bloc turned into “democratic liberals” overnight (with virtually nobody questioning their sincerity), I won’t be at all surprised if the economic collapse of the West leads “democratic liberals” to transform into “marxists” overnight, while maintaining their position as self-appointed conflict managers and population-controllers throughout.

*I am not opposed to class analysis per se, but the marxist class analysis is utter rubbish - it is NOT the distinction between owners of private property and non-owners that is the most important economic division (most clearly because anyone who has their own corner-store or gas station is lumped in with Bill Gates as a member of the same “bourgeois” class, while contractor-"employees" who earn many times over most small businessmen is now “proletarian"), but the division between a coterie well-connected corporate capitalists, bankers, and their high-level government allies on one hand, and the vast majority of toiling people who make an honest living, businessmen and non-businessmen alike, on the other.

Obviously, this former group, the corporate-managerial overclass, does very, VERY well out of ANY economic system, state-controlled or otherwise (as they did throughout the phony “Cold War”, making loans and selling weapons to both sides); for marxists then to target for destruction every middle-class man who has successfully gotten ahead in life while essentially leaving the conspiratorial role of the overclass unexamined is VERY CUTE of them indeed - it speaks volumes of their sincerity, and no doubt the real source of their funding.

Posted by Steve Edwards on August 11, 2007, 09:14 AM | #

“Pax-Judaica” is, of course, an agent-provocateur (probably an ADL shill) who should simply be dismissed out of hand.

Posted by Guessedworker on August 11, 2007, 09:59 AM | #

Steve,

Classical Marxism might have been Plan B once:-

http://www.veoh.com/videos/v389543cFf44FZC

Btw, I don’t think you “need to shut up”.  You could post, of course!

Pax Judaica,

You are free to comment here whoever you are, which is a gift of the house.  I am sure we would be interested in any substantive points you wish to make on the many important issues we raise.  Do you think you can raise your game accordingly?

Posted by Fred Scrooby on August 11, 2007, 01:24 PM | #

Steve, that was a brilliant analysis.  I think you’ve gotten quite close there to a few hitherto obscure truths (hitherto obscure for me, at any rate), putting some things in a perspective that makes far better sense than the standard-issue Marxoid/liberal-democratic boilerplate we’re constantly offered.  Good comment!

“Btw, I don’t think you “need to shut up”.  You could post, of course!” (—GW)

I second that nomination of Steve Edwards as an above-the-fold MR.com blogger.  I for one have often been very impressed by his right-thinking, concise, powerful expression.  I place Steve Edwards’ commentary in the top rank of blogosphere output anywhere.

Posted by gongstar on August 11, 2007, 04:27 PM | #

Corrigendum:

For Pax_Judaica read Pox_Judaica, passim.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on August 12, 2007, 01:53 AM | #

“We — myself and the comrades here, and those of us elsewhere — we’re the winning team.  Right, you may not see that now, but ... you will ... The other side’s days are numbered, friend. (—my comment, above)

Here‘s why:

Dutch blogger Erwin at Kleinverzet wrote:

“Almost 70% of Dutchmen do not feel free enough to openly air their opinions of Islam.  In a purportedly free country as the Netherlands still likes to think it is, that is a most depressing statistic...”

No, no, my brother Erwin.  This statistic is a cause for joy.  Suppose people did not realise or recognize they were unfree, or denied it — as things used to be [until recently].  Then it would be impossible for them to THINK the truth.  The people have to be aware of an issue before they can deal with the issue.

A Czech told me a rhyme from Communist times:

“Don’t think.
But if you think,
don’t talk.
But if you talk,
don’t write.
But if you write,
don’t sign.
And if you sign,
Don’t be surprised.”

Well, at a certain point people under Communism started thinking, then talking, then writing and around 1985, signing and demonstrating.

And then Communism fell apart in a few years.

People are now taking the first step of thinking and recognising they are unfree to speak.  They are becoming aware of their unfreedom.  And you and I and others are already writing. 

But not signing.  It is too early for that.

Eventually the people will move on to sign and to assemble in the streets openly proclaiming what the people already believes.  When that time comes the politicos and the other people in power will lose their own belief in neo-marxism.

At that point the whole ideological building will fall apart.  And their power will disappear. 

And that moment is not too far off.  It is now 1973 or 1983, I don’t know which.

The other side bases itself on lies. If we are righteous and build our foundations on Truth and Honesty we are invincible.

The Sun is shining for us.  The other side is heading into night and fog.

(Gee I hope Pax Judaïca got an eyeful of that.  If you did, Pax, there’s still time to join the winning team — just stop by and admit defeat.  No one will laugh at you.  They’ll welcome you and call you comrade — and that’ll give you such a good feeling ... Step away from the losers, Pax.  I did, starting around seven years ago.  Once you see, you never look back.  We’re the future, my friend.)