Independent market trader Alessio Rastani does his last video for the BBC

Posted by Guessedworker on Tuesday, 27 September 2011 11:42.

From yesterday:



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Posted by Graham_Lister on Tue, 27 Sep 2011 12:24 | #

At least he is brutally honest. Is this creature one of the ‘chosen people’ by any chance?

Oh wait a minute, I’m sorry we are to hero-worship such socially destructive free-riders, yes? After all if there is a buck to be made it’s all good.


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Posted by Guessedworker on Tue, 27 Sep 2011 12:53 | #

One or two interesting comments on the short thread here:

http://www.economicvoice.com/alessio-rastani-gives-the-bbc-more-than-they-bargained-for/50024060#axzz1Z9RvAP9X

I would have said “Rastani” is an Iranian name, Graham.  The guy has worked for Goldman, it seems.

I thought the interesting aspects of the interview are:

i. He says nobody in the trading end of the banking business cares whether the Euro survives or not.  They just care about making money - a great shock for the liberal BBC folk who naturally assume that their “good” is everybody else’s good;

ii. He says outright what a lot of traders and investment analysts know - that there is, at the very least, a high possibility of a total market collapse regardless of what politicians do.


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Posted by Graham_Lister on Tue, 27 Sep 2011 14:33 | #

GW I don’t doubt he is being honest in his interview. He is out to make money from ANYTHING he can but that doesn’t mean that we should applaud such behaviour. Just how much speculation is there compared to real, non-virtual, productive economic activity?

Interesting looking book on the economics of recent years - have not read it but might if I can find time.

As for his name, well certain minorities do practice mimicry pretty well.


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Posted by Foundation on Tue, 27 Sep 2011 15:06 | #

The Germans are getting twitchy:

“The sovereignty of the German state is inviolate and anchored in perpetuity by basic law. It may not be abandoned by the legislature (even with its powers to amend the constitution),” - Andreas Vosskuhle

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financialcrisis/8790785/German-turmoil-over-EU-bail-outs-as-top-judge-calls-for-referendum.html

‘Es lebe Deutschland’, as one commentator puts it.


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Posted by Hail on Tue, 27 Sep 2011 15:07 | #

A Youtube Commenter wrote:

Mister Alessio Rastani is also a professional speaker. By this video he is creating a market for himeself. He is either very smart or not such a succes as? a trader.

He made such shocking statements, that readers of MR, even, know the name now. Think about that.


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Posted by Hail on Tue, 27 Sep 2011 15:17 | #

Foundation wrote:
‘Es lebe Deutschland’, as one commentator puts it.

Anyone who doubts the German state’s committal to the EUR, remember how long that German-based entity, often mocked as ‘“neither holy, nor Roman, nor an empire”, staggered on. Long past its expiration-date. Long past.

Maybe Greece and Portugal could be expelled, as a pressure-release. But Germans abandoning the EUR before Maya-Armageddon in 15 months, as our Iranian pundit has it, is not likely.


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Posted by anon / uh on Tue, 27 Sep 2011 15:28 | #

Anyone who doubts the German state’s committal to the EUR, remember how long that German-based entity, often mocked as ‘“neither holy, nor Roman, nor an empire”, staggered on. Long past its expiration-date. Long past.

How could anyone make

that

mistake?

Oh wait.

“The sovereignty of the German state is inviolate ... “

lolzozlzozlozlzlzlzz

“the German state is inviolate”

lozlzozlzlzlzlzlzzlzzozlozzlzlz

as a better German than he sang: “War dieser Staat schon jemals souverän?”


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Posted by anon / uh on Tue, 27 Sep 2011 15:33 | #

Although he’s described here as ‘Italo-Iranian’, he says that his family is Persian.  I’m guessing he’s a member of the Iranian diaspora in Italy.

lozlzozozlzlzlzlzozlzzozlzozlzz!!!!!

a marriage of greasy and greasier  lolzolzollolzozlzozlzzz

“rastani” btw is definitely a persian name, based on the traditional name “rustam”, of which the root r(a)st- is a cognate of our pesky little word right, PIE *reks-

high-caste type, that one. in india would be a parsee of bania.


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Posted by anon / uh on Tue, 27 Sep 2011 15:34 | #

*OR bania

ugh wtf is my probm


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Posted by anon / uh on Tue, 27 Sep 2011 15:41 | #

hey graham-o

Oh wait a minute, I’m sorry we are to hero-worship such socially destructive free-riders, yes? After all if there is a buck to be made it’s all good.

what’s curious to me is that when i forwarded the video to my scottish friend, her response was exactly like yours: angry rejection with grudging acknowledgement of honesty. i sense a common ethnic psychology at play here. not at all objectionable in itself btw.

but that isn’t the issue. no one’s applauding or worshiping him for being a shark. it’s just amazing that someone managed to slip some truth, and very stark truth, past the bbc for a change. when’s the last time you heard a statement comparable to “GOLDMAN-SACHS RULES THE WORLD” on big bro’s telescreen?

it’s actually quite beautiful — a parasite like this is so sure of his fortunes that he can basically betray his entire kind by exposing its methods.


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Posted by Leon Haller on Tue, 27 Sep 2011 15:48 | #

He provides neither explanatory mechanism, nor specific wealth ‘hedging’ strategy. Nor does he say which countries or companies will crash (we can guess, however - though the market has mostly already priced this assumption into current valuations).

Of course the euro is going to crash. Radical free marketers denounced this monster from the beginning. It has nothing to do with capitalist “overproduction”, but is the logical consequence of profligate central banking regimes untethered to any real store of objective value, like gold.

There is nothing wrong per se with speculation - it can serve an important informational function as to the underlying health of companies (and currencies - and countries). The real problem again is central banking and the debt system (fractional reserve). It pumps out all this fiat money, which goes to banks and big financial players first, before filtering down to ordinary people, who experience greater than otherwise inflation in consequence (eg, right now we should all be experiencing salutary drops in everyday prices, as a function of the global recession, from which we never really extricated ourselves- but we aren’t; quite the opposite, in fact).

There are other problems, too, as with the corporate model of capitalism, and failures in corporate law (in law school corporations classes, the first thing you learn is that “a corporation is a creature of the state” - a privileged legal entity). There has been a near-total divorce between the interests of management and that of shareholders (and often of workers).

These problems are all easily remediable, at least in theory. They involve a return to real capitalism, not more market distorting regulation. In practice, elites like this system, as they benefit at the expense of commoners.

When Rastani discusses the crash, I think he was talking more about Europe’s stock markets, though given all the excessive global financial intermingling, it will certainly drag down the US, too.

The real key is returning to sound economics. The first country that returns to capitalist discipline in a big way will reap huge capital inflows, provided foreign governments continue to allow capital mobility, something which cannot be assumed.
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Posted by Leon Haller on Tue, 27 Sep 2011 15:54 | #

I have a Persian immigrant doctor named Rastani. Actually, extremely competent.

[I think in the US we could make a case for changing our immigration policy to favor specific skills sets, as opposed to the insane current family reunification preference (“reunify” by going home). Such would not be racially optimal, but it could be a politically palatable first step in reducing the size of the invasion.]


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Posted by Leon Haller on Tue, 27 Sep 2011 16:01 | #

I wonder how the euro crisis will affect the pound. Thoughts? I know little about currency trading (I hedge in that regard by investing in value companies in ‘strong’ foreign currencies, like the yen and swiss franc, but not in the currencies themselves, which really requires a lot of specific expertise, and constant attention). I don’t even know how the pound is doing.

I’d like to hear from someone knowledgeable in that regard. Certainly the Cameron government is making some smart fiscal moves, for the long term. 

It all goes back to the old war between capitalist efficiency, and inherent socialist waste.

I still wish people were willing to discuss the specifics of a nationalist economics. Abolishing the effective legal preference for debt must rank high.

I have some radical ideas, too, about why stock markets themselves are evil, though the real problem again is central banking.


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Posted by anon / uh on Tue, 27 Sep 2011 16:12 | #

I know little about currency trading

Ah. I was about to ask you, with regard to this:

The first country that returns to capitalist discipline in a big way will reap huge capital inflows, provided foreign governments continue to allow capital mobility, something which cannot be assumed.

... what you think of China’s recent limited allowance of RMB in our currency market. I’m guessing a “return to capitalist discipline”, in the fantasyland where things go our way, would effectively drive a stake through heart of “Chimerica” and compel them to cut off the trickle of currency. So my question would be what would that do to American holdings of RMB?

I don’t understand how this shit works anyway. Nevermind. lolzozlzozlzlzlz

[I think in the US we could make a case for changing our immigration policy to favor specific skills sets, as opposed to the insane current family reunification preference (“reunify” by going home).

In fantasyland it would not damage us much if at all to allow educated high-caste Hindustanis, Japanese, or citizens of the CIS to settle and make a living here, and this, I feel, would be true “enrichment”. The CIS or “-stans” work, to the extent that they do, owing to flows of healthy, productive Russian colonists and the bureaucracy they erected to develop those territories. Kyrgyzstan failed owing to the withdrawal of Russian oversight and the substitution of native autocrat politics with unrestricted access to the materiel and manpower of post-Soviet infrastructure. On the other hand, the same void filled by a strong tribal leader has worked marvelously for Turkmenistan, a state better insulated from world Jewish interference than even Iran and Belarus. Citizens of these states would do well here and only add to our inglorious & deracinated post-european antipeoplehood per GW and Graham.


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Posted by Leon Haller on Tue, 27 Sep 2011 16:28 | #

OK, now Dow is rising based on hopes re Greece. See, this is nonsense. Greece is a bottomless hole. If it doesn’t default, it will drag down Europe (but why? who will explain the mechanism? c’mon, folks, what really is the problem with propping up the Greeks? That is the key to understanding everything).


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Posted by Leon Haller on Tue, 27 Sep 2011 16:44 | #

American holdings of renmimbis? I really don’t know about that issue. I’m not a trader of any kind, just a regular investor.

China’s purchases of Treasuries are helping the US live beyond it means, as I’ve pointed out previously, and you noted. That won’t last forever. US does reap a lot of benefits from its reserve currency status.

What I meant re capitalist discipline was just that. Know how WNs complain about no White Zion (refuge)? Capitalists similarly complain about the lack of any true capitalist power (now, if only we could combine racial separatism with hardcore capitalism rooted in inviolable property rights and hard money ... we would upset Dr. Lister ... but we would also recreate over time the greatest power on Earth ... especially if combined with robust eugenics, and state-supported research into embryonic engineering ...). There are enormous amounts of private capital sloshing across the globe trying to preserve value. Where the hell do you invest today? Everywhere is screwed up.

If a country showed a serious dedication to property rights, hard money, and extremely limited state interference in private markets (esp if it were found among a naturally superior (high-IQ) people), it would reap the dividend of “first past the post” in this era of global capitalist fear. Everyone would want to park money there, which would lead to enormous amounts of real capital available for business expansion - and hence rising living standards.


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Posted by anon / uh on Tue, 27 Sep 2011 17:15 | #

You know what, this Rastani chap isn’t Italian at all.

First, he doesn’t look Italian. Anyone who isn’t in a mirthful dismissive mood will admit this, drawing on plenty of experience observing Italians. His face is too narrow and the eyes too close, while his pigmentation is just a shade too dusky and his ears too long. There’s no trace of the quite heavy Alpine component (the infamous brachycephalization of the old school racialists) found among Italians. There’s a hint of latinity in his eyes and mandible, I admit.

Second, his clothes are wrong. No Italian but the most slavish Padanian haagocrat would be caught dead in that color ensemble. Ever seen Silvio in dark gray over satiny pastel blue & pink? Didn’t think so.

Third, and perhaps most telling, are his bearing and speech. He doesn’t act like an Italian. He’s casual, conversational; an Italian would be haughty and indirect. His r’s are heavily rhotacized, which means he definitely did not grow up anywhere near Italy or the Italian speech pattern, and is used to the broad diphthongs of Farsi words with “r” and “?” (in Tajik the latter has become “o”, hence “Tojik”). At 1:07 - 1:11, still more at 1:33 - 1:37, and especially when he pronounces “opportunity” at 1:56, he flaps his tongue at a speed typical of gabbing guptas and babbling babus, not Italians. Anyone who’s sat across from Hindoo college kids at Starbucks will know the cadence. Indeed, he has absolutely nothing of the Italian cadence, pronunciation, or bearing. The very fact that he is spilling the beans argues against his being at all Italian by race or upbringing. Omertà is no myth, and it isn’t limited to mafiosi.

When an Italian talks fast, his speech is a tumble of obfuscating honorifics, sociological nebulosities, or pure vulgarities — because he’s trying to hide something from you.

When an Indian talks fast, he’s trying to say as much as he can before you cut him short — because he’s trying to sell you something, his wares or the belief in his own superiority. Haggling, in a word.

This fuck’s all Perso-desi. Probably his folks wanted to be fancy naming him “Alessio”.


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Posted by anon / uh on Tue, 27 Sep 2011 18:05 | #

There was an interesting interview recently with his bandmate.  Caused some consternation among online Antifa types.

I can see why without even reading it — look at the formatting. Must be some serious cog-diss to see rechtsradikale Ideen against argyle and baby-blues. Kinda toll ist.

You know, I always used to say that German nationalists have become so watered-down owing to legal and social constraints that the message has been effectively lost. The photo of this fellow alone (or the sort of spectacle briefly mentioned elsewhere) is eloquent testimony to the possibility that precisely in this neotenous anti-predator adaptation is the young right’s best chance of recruiting a larger base. You see teenage German girls with the usual markers of allegiance all over YouTube.

Im Endeffekt diese Kerle also “cool” werden, daß sie so viel Gruppe-Anerkennung wie der vorherrschende Antifastamm anbieten konnten. Die Tussis können so’n Scheiß wie “Ein <3 für Deutschland” widerstehen nicht, und die Tussis die Babys machen.

And this guy seems to have his act together. The subtilization of worldview has grown beyond simple dissimulation in song lyrics and symbolism.

Würden Sie mir abnehmen, wenn ich behaupten würde, ich wäre Chinese oder Nigerianer?

Eine kleine grüne Plastikkarte ändert daran nicht das Geringste.

cf.

The entire procedure of the acquisition of citizenship is not carried out much differently from admission to an automobile club, for instance. The man sends in his application, this is examined and passed upon, and one day it is brought to his attention by a handbill that now he has become a State citizen, whereby this is even clad in a witty and funny form. Namely, the former Zulu Kafir in question is informed ‘You have hereby become a German!’

Great link Dasein, I shall (attempt to!) read through it. I’ve long searched for something beyond the music, but those dudes have very little netzpresenz, so this is more than enough.


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Posted by Hartley Hare on Tue, 27 Sep 2011 19:06 | #

All British nationalists, all White nationalists in fact, should hope and pray that the EUro collapses into the pile of shit that it is - and takes down that even bigger pile of turds, the EU, down with it.
The EU, as well as being constitutionally anti-White, is fundamentally evil.
  It is a dictatorship.Undemocratic. unaccountable, over-bearing, elitist and globalist.
It is the enemy of mankind.

At last the Germans - who keep the whole show on the road - realise this.Hopefully the actual German people themselves won’t let that cow, Merkel, to debauch their currency and destroy their hard-won wealth.


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Posted by Foundation on Tue, 27 Sep 2011 20:47 | #

Amen to that, HH.


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Posted by TabuLa Raza on Wed, 28 Sep 2011 00:10 | #

drive a stake through heart of “Chimerica”

That would really be chimerical.


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Posted by Papa Luigi on Wed, 28 Sep 2011 00:16 | #

Rastani is not necessarily being ‘brutally honest’, nor indeed even ‘honest’, he he making a statement that is intended to shock and elicit a specific response. If he intends to make money out of a falling market then he (or his employers) will have already adopted a position in the market and they are trying to panic the public into selling equities and buying long bonds.

If the crash that he (or his employers) hope for does not come along soon, then the exposed positions they have taken in anticipation of a bear market will become very costly to them, and my guess is that ‘Goldman Sachs’ are getting a little worried and are nowhere near as certain as he is asserting that a crash is on its way. Thus the reason for this guy’s prominently reported and high profile TV slot, trying to put the shits up anyone with stock market investments in the hope that the fear generated will make his predictions self-fulfilling.

Rastani’s tv appearance could not have occured by accident. He is there because ‘market manipulators’ like ‘Goldman Sachs’ wanted him to say what he did.

If the PIGS go belly up under their burden of debt then interest rates will move sharply upwards and that will make all government and corporate debt fall sharply in value. Therefore it would be madness to purchase government bonds at this time as Rastani suggests. I imagine ‘Goldman Sachs’ have substantial holdings of bonds at the moment that they hope to sell at a profit to investors who have been panicked out of equities.

‘Goldman Sachs’ will hold the profits that they make from selling their bonds to panicking investors as cash, until the equity markets have spiked down, and they will then ‘fill their boots’ with cheap equities and make another killing when stock markets rebound. This is what they do.

If the Euro zone crashes as Rastani predicts, then both equities and bonds will fall in value, but unlike bonds, which will take years to recover their value, equities will bounce back quickly as the markets realise that for the PIGS to default on their loans does not mean the end of the world.


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Posted by Hail on Wed, 28 Sep 2011 05:08 | #

Papa Luigi wrote:
Rastani is not necessarily being ‘brutally honest’, nor indeed even ‘honest’, he he making a statement that is intended to shock and elicit a specific response. If he intends to make money out of a falling market then he (or his employers) will have already adopted a position in the market and they are trying to panic the public into selling equities and buying long bonds.

Papa Luigi is right.

.
The Gates of Vienna Islamocentrists mostly agree. Four representative comment-excerpts:

My feeling is he is trying to feed the panic.

Whatever the real persona of Alessio Rastani, the sketch was a mainstream media ‘ice-breaker’.

This trader looks and talks like he is after public attention only. Most likely, he is a member of the “Yes Men” organization, specializing in hoaxes and scandals. Is Alessio Rastani a ‘Yes Man’?

...there appear to be many suspicious pauses and sidelong glances, indicating to me a fabrication.


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Posted by anon / uh on Wed, 28 Sep 2011 05:21 | #

Papa Luigi is right.

Of course he is. I didn’t think the guy’s obvious self-interested huckstering needed elucidation, though. Here’s a guy who trades in money putting the fear of financial doom into people. He goes so far as to say he “prays for something like this”. Do we need to be told he’s trying to effect a self-fulfilled prophecy?

Here’s the final position taken by the author of that article:

I have no idea, then, whether Alessio Rastani is his real name, or whether he’s a member of the Yes Men. But here’s the thing: even if Rastani were a member of the Yes Men, that wouldn’t necessarily make his interview a hoax. Indeed, a trader who is hoping for a big stock-market crash is exactly the kind of person who might well put time and effort into undermining large corporations like Dow Chemical.


business23 lolzozlzolzzz


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Posted by Captainchaos on Wed, 28 Sep 2011 05:36 | #

Perhaps the market will not meet with a sudden and cataclysmic crash.  However, the clear and predictable long-term outcome will be more tax dollars thrown at financing a growing debt and increasing austerity measures.  Whites will have more money taken from them and things will continue to go to shit.  Any nationalist politician who can’t make hay of that is as stupid as Lee John Barnesy.


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Posted by Graham_Lister on Wed, 28 Sep 2011 13:23 | #

Well I didn’t mean he was being honest in his market predictions rather in the rapacious attitude that he/they will try and make money off of anything they can regardless of the consequences for the rest of us ‘normal’ people.

As for Goldman’s exposure who knows? My guess with their Black & Scholes formula etc., that they will be happy with whatever set of events occur outside of a meltdown of the system in toto.

As for manipulating stock markets it would probably be far more effective to spread rumors to ‘insiders’ within the system (or try effecting sentiment by making certain trades in the market) than attempting to ‘scare’ the everyday person watching TV.


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Posted by Papa Luigi on Wed, 28 Sep 2011 13:55 | #

Well I didn’t mean he was being honest in his market predictions rather in the rapacious attitude that he/they will try and make money off of anything they can regardless of the consequences for the rest of us ‘normal’ people.

I take your point, but he was only saying something that is true in order to manipulate and deceive. He wasn’t saying something that is true in order to further the interests of the listener. He was deliberately fomenting panic in order to further his own immoral ends. 

As for Goldman’s exposure who knows? My guess with their Black & Scholes formula etc., that they will be happy with whatever set of events occur outside of a meltdown of the system in toto.

Probably so, but there are a lot of people at the moment trying to panic private investors out of equities and into bonds. Interest rates are at an all time low at present and if a financial crisis is precipitated by defaults on public debt this will cause interest rates to rise sharply. When interest rates do that, bond values fall sharply, and so anyone following Rastani’s advice and buying bonds at present will lose out in a big way if what Rastani predicts is correct.

As for manipulating stock markets it would probably be far more effective to spread rumors to ‘insiders’ within the system (or try effecting sentiment by making certain trades in the market) than attempting to ‘scare’ the everyday person watching TV.

This is a game of the ‘Carnies’ and the ‘Rubes’ and the ‘Carnies’ can’t make money by trying to con other ‘Carnies’, they make their money by conning the ‘Rubes’.


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Posted by Graham_Lister on Wed, 28 Sep 2011 14:07 | #

Mr. Haller what ‘upsets’ me is your fantasy politics of White Zion (horrible name BTW) plus libertarianism with a hint of racism. But what is more annoying is your 3rd rate dogmatic, evidence free, assertions.

Just as an empirical question, for you obviously pesky ‘evidence’ and all that jazz, which nations have the best quality of life in the modern world? Do the Scandinavian nations rank well or badly in that regard?

Do the UK and USA have more, or less, occurrence of social pathologies than the Scandinavian nations? I’m thinking maybe drug abuse as one example.

Really let’s look at the real world - what is a decent model? Scandinavia minus the insanities of hyper-liberalism (which go much deeper than simply the third-world invasion) seems a rather good starting point - silly me I’m an ‘evil’ centrist, ethnocentric communitarian, European patriot…oh no I’d never be accepted in the libertarian Jew club - how will I cope?

Silly me, again, I ask you a semi-serious question which requires some interaction with real-world evidence so obviously that will result in me waiting a very long time for a sensible response.

Damn why do scientific types demand trivia like experimental evidence or empirical observations to be taking seriously when we have all this lovely dogma…sorry ‘economic theory’?

Returning to ‘Zion’...I’ve said it before but even if I was the last truly British person left on these islands I would NEVER give my homeland up to some uppity Africans and Pakistanis.

But you have your views and I look forward to seeing how your upcoming revolution in Catholic theology will be pivotal in the life of Euro-America and we unfortunate Europeans not to have been ‘lucky enough’ to be born as Americans.


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Posted by Graham_Lister on Wed, 28 Sep 2011 14:30 | #

@Papa Luigi

Fair enough BUT we used to hang speculators; that is one tradition we really should revivify.

My revulsion at all this leveraging/speculation etc., must be a combination of my Scottish genes and Presbyterian cultural environment. I seem not to be able to find my ‘inner Jew’.

I really doubt that this model of unregulated, globalized, speculation can possibly carry on in the longer term. The question is how did we get to this point? Asserting a return to the gold standard would solve these issues seems a little simple-minded to say the least. I distrust mono-causal explanations of complex phenomena.

As I posted a while ago on the Greek situation the more interconnected the system becomes oddly the more vulnerable it becomes. Shocks and crises are now not really asymmetrical (or rather their asymmetrical nature is rapidly declining). So the global system is strong (in reach and scope) but brittle.

My ecological analogy would be to a food-web. If a few key species are removed then the whole web collapses.


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Posted by Foundation on Wed, 28 Sep 2011 20:43 | #

Head of UniCredit global securities make [sic] Alessio “BBC Trader” Rastani’s provocative speech seem like a bedtime story:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/step-aside-bbc-trader-head-unicredit-securities-predicts-imminent-end-eurozone-and-global-finan

A trip to the shops for some provisions may be in order. I always liked baked beans.


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Posted by TabuLa Raza on Sun, 02 Oct 2011 22:15 | #

Some Soviet economists came to USA with a problem:  “How do you guys allocate crops over the year?
We can’t do it.”

Answer:  Futures markets.  Which REQUIRE SPECULATION.  No economy can work without it.



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