Nordic Beauties?

Posted by Andrew L on May 17, 2005, 08:22 AM | #

That Green House Effect is realy bad in Norway,Cooking everyone brown, besides , how did this one escape the brutel cluches of the other Migrants, You Know, those ones. Islam or something.

Posted by Guessedworker on May 17, 2005, 08:52 AM | #

Dhimmitude can be so appealing.

Posted by Guessedworker on May 17, 2005, 09:20 AM | #

Actually, I blogged on beauty pageants and womanhood last October:-

http://majorityrights.com/index.php/weblog/comments/17/

This effort among pageant organisers to stay relavent and be Pee-Cee and race blind has been going on for a long time.  It is contrary to the interests of their audience and will harm their (the organisers’) commercial interests.

That audience is predominantly female and white.  Beauty is the female lodestar - at least, while is not overtly sexual.  It quickly becomes a male fascination when a certain limit to decorum is reached.

In the end, white women have no interest in the beauty of non-white women because the idealisation of beauty is a very private and particular thing.  It must have a point of contact with the idealiser, and that is broken when the race of the “object” is changed.

(Now, surely “object” must upset some dynosauric, 1970’s feminist somewhere!)

Posted by Mark Richardson on May 17, 2005, 09:28 AM | #

Vote Michelle!

Posted by Guessedworker on May 17, 2005, 09:30 AM | #

The pity is, Mark, none of them will “vote” for you or me.

Posted by Phil Peterson on May 17, 2005, 11:17 AM | #

Posted by Braveheart on May 17, 2005, 11:51 AM | #

Don’t forget Miss Belgium:-

http://www.eurobru.com/tatiana2.jpg

Lady Tatiana Silva Braga Tavares from Brussels (or should I say Cape Verde, where both parents come from - mom is dead and dad has left the country)

She declared shortly after her election: “I wanted to become the first miss Belgium of foreign descent (BTW don’t believe everything, there already have been others with coloured skin) and by this I wanted to show that the multicultural composition of Belgium must not necessarily lead to conflicts, but rather can be an asset of cultural diversity.”

But it’s perhaps better to keep beauty and politics apart. It’s not because she herself speaks five languages that the others, especially the Arabs in Brussels, do.

Flanders,

Posted by Geoff Beck on May 17, 2005, 12:56 PM | #

Every day of every year our governments betray us; we are now enslaved and have no power in the land of our birth.

When will we fight back?

Each minute of delay is death advanced.

Posted by Martin Hutchinson on May 17, 2005, 12:57 PM | #

Sorry chaps, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder.  As a pure blooded blue eyed Aryan who would doubtless have been seized into the Hitler Youth but would have found its emphasis on physical fitness utterly repellant, I have to say that 1-4 are far more attractive than the boring bulbous blondes below.  All 4 could perfectly well be Italian or Greek, and live in Scandinavia owing to energetic Viking miscegenation.

Posted by Guessedworker on May 17, 2005, 01:53 PM | #

Martin,

My comment above referred not to male desire but to the female idealisation of beauty, and this is the medium through which pageants should be understood.

The appreciation of beauty is genetic.  Woman is not intended by Nature to idealise a beauty which she cannot genetically possess.  It must lie somewhere within the possibilities of her imagination.  Absolute impossibility breaks the spell, and her interest is gone.

Yes, one is aware that there are still East Asian women who submit themselves to blepharoplastic surgery.  But they are sad and untrue to themselves, and not a satisfactory basis to determine what is going on here.

Incidentally, I disagree that no.1 to 4 could pass as southern European.  The nearest is No.2.

Posted by JW Holliday on May 17, 2005, 02:44 PM | #

Martin: “All 4 could perfectly well be Italian or Greek,”

I see that as incorrect, and a gross distortion of the actual typical phenotypes within Europe.  I agree with GW that only #2 could comfortably fit into those populations.  The others?  Absurd.  Look at the picture of #1, on the right, for example.  Perhaps perfectly well being a Dominican or Puerto Rican. 

There is too much subjectivity here.

This is why I prefer to concentrate on genetic assays and genetic interests.  I for one would be more interested in seeing the biogeographical ancestry profiles of these specimens, rather than the photographs.

I realize I may be in a minority of one on that, an “ultimate” guy in a world full of “proximates.”

Posted by Guessedworker on May 17, 2005, 02:51 PM | #

I for one would be more interested in seeing the biogeographical ancestry profiles of these specimens, rather than the photographs

Damned if I need some bio-whatsit profile for Michelle.  Photographs please.  And a telephone number.  And a dinner date.

What am I saying?  My wife would kill me.

Posted by JW Holliday on May 17, 2005, 02:55 PM | #

JR,

It would be helpful if we could obtain information of the actual ethnic ancestries of individuals 1-4.  Is that available, to your knowledge?  Can you provide the data?

Posted by Phil Peterson on May 17, 2005, 03:18 PM | #

What am I saying?  My wife would kill me.

I hope your wife doesn’t read MR or if she does, she doesn’t know who “Guessedworker” is.......

Posted by Phil Peterson on May 17, 2005, 03:29 PM | #

Sorry chaps, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder.  As a pure blooded blue eyed Aryan who would doubtless have been seized into the Hitler Youth but would have found its emphasis on physical fitness utterly repellant, I have to say that 1-4 are far more attractive than the boring bulbous blondes below.  All 4 could perfectly well be Italian or Greek, and live in Scandinavia owing to energetic Viking miscegenation.

Martin,

It is absolutely true that beauty is in the eyes of the beholder and there is no iron law that says white men will only prefer white women and black men only prefer black women (for example).

But I think you are missing the larger point here. I don’t think any of us would deny that there are lots of exquisitely beautiful women all over the world, if one were talking about this as a purely academic question. And I would be lying through my teeth if I said that I was never attracted even once to women who weren’t white.

The issue however is (they say a picture is worth a thousand words) that these women represent permanent and irreversible change in the racial makeup of sections of the population of the countries they choose to represent. This is the central point about it. Not whether blonde Michelle is sexier than dusky Asli Bayram.

If this population displacement (or as Fred Scrooby calls it Race Replacement) is acceptable, why is it only Europe, the US, Canada, Australia/New Zealand that must be subjected to it? What is so particularly evil about people of European descent that they deserve to be slowly wiped out?

And if one were to be consistent, Martin, then I cannot see why one should oppose Galton’s plan to slowly displace Blacks with Chinese in Africa. It should be completely acceptable to you. But you said earlier that its not. Are you saying that you oppose race displacement for blacks but have no problem if its done to whites?

Posted by Kubilai on May 17, 2005, 03:38 PM | #

Sorry chaps, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder.  As a pure blooded blue eyed Aryan who would doubtless have been seized into the Hitler Youth but would have found its emphasis on physical fitness utterly repellant, I have to say that 1-4 are far more attractive than the boring bulbous blondes below.  All 4 could perfectly well be Italian or Greek, and live in Scandinavia owing to energetic Viking miscegenation.

Phil beat me to the punch here.  If it were me and only me, I would have no qualms of “having my way” with any of the young women pictured.  However, it goes beyond what our primative male yearnings are all about.  Phil said it quite well and I’ll leave it at that.

Posted by Phil Peterson on May 17, 2005, 03:51 PM | #

If it were me and only me, I would have no qualms of “having my way” with any of the young women pictured.

Indeed. Ahem. Lets not get into that.......

Posted by Phil Peterson on May 17, 2005, 04:04 PM | #

One of the more amusing aspects of this is that quite often when one argues with GNXP types or conservatives who like race-mixing (usually young conservatives), any argument against race-mixing is usually met with pictures of good looking non-white or mixed race women, with the question : “And you’re opposed to this?”

My answer is:

“Yes, because I don’t decide my politics after listening to my penis. I decide my politics after listening to my brain. And its a shame all those philosophers from Socrates to Nietzsche spent so many hours thinking about what kind of political order they wanted to create when all they needed to do was go around and check where they got the best hard-ons.”

Posted by Svigor on May 17, 2005, 04:04 PM | #

I’d take any of those Nordic women over the poster children of maladaptive white race psychology.  They’re more attractive and in my experience white women suffer far less without makeup than non-white women.  I’m not into dark mustaches.

Posted by Svigor on May 17, 2005, 04:08 PM | #

Can one of the luminaries here or perhaps a lurking GnXp type explain that I consistently see a masculinity in non-white women that I don’t in white women?

This may be accepted as a loaded question, but it isn’t offered as one; I genuinely see it and I’d like to know what the thinking is, whether it’s a chimera of bias or a function of kinship or ev psych or a combo or what.

Posted by Svigor on May 17, 2005, 04:09 PM | #

*why* not *that*

Posted by Phil Peterson on May 17, 2005, 04:15 PM | #

Lets have a vote shall we?

Posted by Guessedworker on May 17, 2005, 04:23 PM | #

Svi,

I think you are probably observing objective reality.  You could, though, check for papers on variations by race in female serum testosterone rythmicity.  In his Race, Evolution, and Behavior, Prof Rushton quotes data showing that black females reflect peak variations observed in males.  The deep timbre of the black female voice may be associated with those variations.

I am pretty sure that the widely observable pliancy of East Asian women is also reflected in blood testosterone production, their output being lower than white women and much lower than blacks.  Therefore, in terms of “non-masculinised femininity” you may wish to re-examine the absolute ascendency of white females.  Birch Barlow could be on to something here!

Posted by ben tillman on May 17, 2005, 04:38 PM | #

Regarding Martin’s comment, all I can say is, de gustibus non disputandum est.  Though I have found other non-European women attractive, these four don’t do much for me.  Biologically, of course, it is adaptive to engineer a little one-way gene flow, so it is not surprising that most of us, in varying degrees, have a propensity for such attraction, though it is a bit odd that one would prefer the alien.

The issue however is (they say a picture is worth a thousand words) that these women represent permanent and irreversible change in the racial makeup of sections of the population of the countries they choose to represent.

Yes, “represent” is precisely the right word.  The choice of these women is a representation that we no longer exist; it is a representation of genocide not as an inevitability but as a fait accompli.

Posted by Braveheart on May 17, 2005, 04:54 PM | #

“masculinity in non-white women”

I understand what you mean, but I think you should see it otherwise. The dusky ladies here more correspond to what I would qualify as the “Paris manequin ideal”.  That type certainly also exist in “white”. But why not (so much) in a beauty contest? That’s the next question.

Flanders,

Posted by Guessedworker on May 17, 2005, 04:57 PM | #

Johan,

The strategy of a high-class couturier is to help women judge the clothes.  The strategy of a beauty pageant organiser is to help women judge the beauty of the contestants.  The fact that European women cannot idealise beauty based upon a non-European display of it is consistent with the objectives of the couturier.  The clothes will be the star.

The question, then - and the point of JR’s post - is why are so many non-Europeans representing European nations?  The answer, I suppose, lies with the selection of the judges to the national pageants, the instructions they operate under and the wider pressure to accord with the feelgood, bien pensant, PeeCee bullshit that comes at us from every quarter of the skies.

Posted by JW Holliday on May 17, 2005, 05:38 PM | #

I did some searching.
What I found:-

Traasavik = half-Thai

Hanspal = Indian father (a GNXP delight!)

Sopacua = described as “half-Indonesian” or “Indonesian” (probably half)

Bayram = Turkish

Note that another Miss Germany, Shermine Sharivar, is of Iranian extraction. 

Those are the ethnic facts of the cases - facts being better than the Sailerian technique of posting pictures and having himself (or his wife; eg, Shelby Steele “looks Greek") express their personal opinions.

Posted by Phil Peterson on May 17, 2005, 07:53 PM | #

She gets my vote

http://www.beautifulhairstyles.com/prom/chelseacooleymissusa2005.jpg

Posted by Kubilai on May 17, 2005, 11:55 PM | #

Phil, she can have more than my “vote”, if you know what I mean.

Posted by Phil Peterson on May 18, 2005, 12:12 AM | #

Easy my friend! This is a family forum.......

Posted by Andrew L on May 18, 2005, 05:22 AM | #

OO Yeh baby, I’m over here

Posted by dlg on May 18, 2005, 04:48 PM | #

For me, nos. 1-4 are far more attractive than any of the bland-looking Nordic ladies posted. Putting beauty in quotation marks for them is just silly.

There is a larger point to be made, of course, about the political considerations that motivate the selection of these contestants.

Posted by Guessedworker on May 18, 2005, 06:47 PM | #

I think the larger point is JR’s point, dlg.  Or to be precise, non-Nordic phenotypes as the embodiments of female beauty in Nordic Norway or Denmark speak of an unnatural, politically imposed universalism other nations would immediately reject.

As an Anglo-Saxon with a blond wife and blond child I don’t want any such imposition in my England.  And I want to disempower those here who do.

Posted by J Richards on May 19, 2005, 06:42 AM | #

Braveheart: Other than Miss Belgium, even Miss France is non-white.  However, in my post, I decided to focus on Northern European nations because the physical contrast between the non-white women shown and the white beauties in Northern Europe is striking. 

JW Holliday: You have yourself answered your question about the ethnic ancestries of the women in the first four figures. I didn’t bother finding out their ancestries because they clearly look non-white. Of course, these women could have substantial European ancestry, and this is indeed true, as you have pointed out. However, one point in my posting is that these women have multiple traits--other than skin color--that are either non-European or borderline European, and their “attractiveness” notwithstanding, they are not suitable as representatives of European beauty. Even if the woman in Figure 2 had overwhelming European ancestry--and there are dark outlier Europeans with some unusual facial features that are unrelated to non-European admixture--the woman would still not be suitable as a representative of European beauty in any European nation.  Representatives of European beauty should have a minimum of facial features more characteristic of non-whites, i.e., the woman in Figure 2 could not possibly be considered an attractive European woman, even if she were overwhelmingly genetically European. 

Svigor: You ask whether it can be explained why you “consistently see a masculinity in non-white women” that you don’t in white women. This answer can be addressed with rigor, and I do plan on addressing this issue in my future posts. With respect to facial anatomy, non-Europeans have retained more ancestral traits than Europeans, and the ancestral traits often happen to be more robust. Robustness is also a correlate of masculinization, though robustness is not necessarily a consequence of masculinization. Compared to our long-deceased ancestors, contemporary humans have more gracile facial features, which are most extensively seen among Europeans, and among Europeans, most extensively seen among some Northern European populations. Therefore, what you have observed is that non-European women, on average, have more robust facial features than European women.

Posted by J Richards on May 19, 2005, 06:51 AM | #

dlg: If you believe that the women in the first four figures are more attractive than the white women shown, chances are that you are either non-white or a plain-weird white person.  Irrespective of your race, it is likely that the moral of the following story applies to you. 

The Fox and the Grapes:

One hot summer’s day a Fox was strolling through an orchard till he came to a bunch of Grapes just ripening on a vine which had been trained over a lofty branch.  “Just the thing to quench my thirst,” quoth he.  Drawing back a few paces, he took a run and a jump, and just missed the bunch.  Turning round again with a One, Two, Three, he jumped up, but with no greater success.  Again and again he tried after the tempting morsel, but at last had to give it up, and walked away with his nose in the air, saying: “I am sure they are sour.”

Moral: It is easy to despise what you cannot get.

Posted by Kubilai on May 19, 2005, 02:52 PM | #

Moral: It is easy to despise what you cannot get. - J Richards

This has to do with it partly, in my opinion.  I do think that White women were unreachable to many races previously, hence the subconscious attitude of viewing them “less attractive”.  I think what is more in play currently is the constant bombardment of the media that states that the epitomy of beauty is a mulatto, black, or some other “exotic” looking female.  To me, this is preposterous thinking and “logic” for the simple fact that rarity increases value and we know that pure blonde haired, blue eyed women are truly rare on this planet.  Blacks and Browns are in over abundance and are common.  For someone like dlg to state that the blondes are “bland” is absurd and indicates an internalization of thorough brainwashing.

Posted by Lurker on May 19, 2005, 04:12 PM | #

I think they are all pretty hot but they are not representitive of their countries - which is the point.

If Miss Kenya or Miss Nigeria “just happened” to look like Scarlett Johansson or Marilyn Monroe, an army of PC termites would emerge from the woodwork to complain and demand something be done.

Posted by Linda on May 24, 2005, 05:17 PM | #

Oh my God, I’m not going to read all the comments, but aren’t you a bit shallow? Or shall I call you a racist??!!
You all say the misses don’t represent their country. So what do you know about their country?
Did you know that ‘halfbreeds’ are a common thing here in The Netherlands? Our Miss Sharita Sopacua is one of them (half Dutch, half Moluccan) and THAT represents our country: a multicultural country.

Posted by Guessedworker on May 24, 2005, 10:26 PM | #

Linda,

We are challenging your assumptions which you have acquired from the liberal-left.  The liberal-left has condemned Europeans to “freedom” through equality - which means deracination and dispossession.  If you can comprehend this you can get past using words like “racist” and “multicultural” as real-life statements.  They are leftist political statements.  Nothing more.

It is a pity you haven’t read the thread because then you would have come across this statement of mine:-

… non-Nordic phenotypes as the embodiments of female beauty in Nordic Norway or Denmark speak of an unnatural, politically imposed universalism other nations would immediately reject

... which contextualises what I said at the start of this comment.

In a word: we want our people to survive as they are.  This is the highest calling in political and national life.  Don’t allow your acquired liberal-left sensibilities to blind you to that.

Posted by sofyap on May 27, 2005, 11:36 AM | #

Miss Germany, Asli Bayram, is lucky to be alive, let alone competing in Miss Universe. When she was 11 years old, she was forced to watch as a neo-Nazi neighbor forced his way into her home and murdered her father in front of his young family.

The fact that she is representing Germany—and is proud to be doing so --is a sign of forgiveness and trust overcoming hatred and racism, not an “unnatural, politically imposed universalism” as one small-minded bigots said.

Posted by Guessedworker on May 27, 2005, 12:10 PM | #

Sofyap,

Criminality is not an issue.  I will not allow you to divide the world between the “criminal” and “small-minded” who wish our European peoples to be sovereign and live alone, as they also wish, in their own homelands and the “forgiving” (but genocidal in effect) minorities, supported by an even more forgiving (and genocidal) marxist liberal establishment.

Are you European by extraction?  If so, you evidently do not value European racial identity?  I suggest you think hard on that before you return to this thread.

Posted by Ranjith on May 31, 2005, 02:55 AM | #

What a bunch of Euro Trash crooks here. You people are full of hate. Grow up, you sore losers.

Posted by J Richards on May 31, 2005, 09:51 AM | #

Ranjith,

The only person that has spewed hate within this thread is you.  Bro, you are the one who needs to grow up.

Posted by Sandra on June 11, 2005, 07:08 PM | #

the 4 mixed europeans are wayyy prettier than the plain, boring, pale blondes...definitely…

Posted by Sandra on June 11, 2005, 07:19 PM | #

...and i’m not just saying that because i’m not caucasion before you make assumptions...i just stumbled across this thread and i had to post because i think you people are WEIRD! lololol why can’t you just relax ease into the 21st century...we have planes and ferries now if u haven’t realised and people are free to roam the earth...you people are crazy and backwards and don’t like other races...and don’t bother posting back because i just came across this thread and i won’t be back...peace and love xxx

Posted by Kalaizi on June 29, 2005, 04:44 PM | #

This trend has gone on for some time, only in reverse. In Latin America, India, Asia,… nations have chosen the whitest (read most western European) looking individuals to represent them. Today, Europeans have chosen the most ethnic. These nations are simply trying to win. They are not representative of anything other than that. I think you all read far too much into what is essentially a sport. How many of you complain about non-whites in any of your other games?

Posted by Kalaizi on June 29, 2005, 04:47 PM | #

In a word: we want our people to survive as they are.

Well that is not going to happen. Humans change, evolve, and MIX with other humans… this is has been the way of mankind for thousands of years. You think you alone can stop it?

Posted by J Richards on June 29, 2005, 09:18 PM | #

Kalaizi,

The situation in Latin America and India is very different from that in the West.  Whiter and more Caucasoid features are desired by most people in India and Latin America.  Therefore, if their beauty contestants are light-skinned and more Caucasoid-looking than the norm, then it reflects what is desired by a large proportion of the population.  In the West, the overwhelming majority of whites do not wish to become darker or acquire non-white facial features.  Although a tan among whites is often desirable, a preference for a tan is not the same as a preference for naturally darker skin; one prefers a white person with a tan.  Without political correctness at play, there is no way the non-white women shown could compete* with attractive white women in a genuine beauty contest because the overwhelming majority of whites would consider attractive white women (examples above) a lot more attractive than attractive non-white women. 

Beauty contests such as the Miss Universe contest are not sports.  In sports, the winner is decided by merit, but in the Miss Universe or equivalent, smart answers to questions and political considerations play a major role in determining the outcome.  Besides, many whites actually ignore black-dominated sports such as basketball.

Human populations do indeed change and mix with each other, but not all changes are desirable, and warning others about negative changes is what we are doing.

* The non-white women would not be barred from participation; they just wouldn’t come anywhere close to winning.

Posted by alban on October 31, 2005, 01:48 PM | #

ju krejt te kokshi bjutifull be ag

Posted by Darla on November 09, 2005, 06:05 PM | #

Just a question to some of the guys up there: have you EVER been to scandinavia?

Posted by celina on November 09, 2005, 06:43 PM | #

‘’The non-white women would not be barred from participation; they just wouldn’t come anywhere close to winning.’’
That is the sickest thing I’ve EVER heard!!!! just because you’re a fucking racist doesn’t mean that the rest of us are! unfortunaly there IS a bunch of sick people like yourself out there having opinions like that!! And BTW have you realized that almost every year, there’s a ‘non-white’ woman who wins the whole competition! funny thing eh’? jerk!
Thank god you’re in the jury! not that you would have made it that far anyway.
Those women up there, on the pictures are gorgeous but if you can’t see that, it’s just too bad!

Posted by J Richards on November 10, 2005, 12:39 PM | #

Darla,

I am not sure why you ask whether any of use have been in Scandinavia.  If this is because you assume that I think that all Nordic whites are blond, then this is surely not my belief.  Scandinavians are blonder than other Europeans but they are certainly not an all-blond people.

Celina,

When I said that non-white women wouldn’t come anywhere close to winning, I did not mean that the competition would be rigged against them—if this is how you have perceived it to be.  It is just that their beauty would be no match for Nordic beauty and hence the non-white contestants would not be making it to the top. 

Of course, I do realize that a lot of non-white women rank well in international/mutli-ethnic beauty contests—thanks to political correctness rather than their beauty.  This is actually a good example of anti-white prejudice because better looking white women end up ranked lower than less attractive non-white women.

As far as the non-white women being gorgeous goes, they surely are better looking—from the perspective of whites—than non-white women in general, and a lot of this has to do with their part-white ancestry...just take a good look at Negroid, Mongoloid and Australoid women with negligible white admixture and tell me how good they look from the perspective of whites.  On the other hand, the non-white women shown above are no match for white beauty, especially Nordic beauty and do not deserve their rankings.

Posted by BERNARDO SURIPATTY on January 17, 2006, 05:34 PM | #

I CANNOT believe all of the things that were said in this topic.

looks like pure racism to me and really short sided views on things. 

Europe now a days is race-wise a reflection from people all over the world...it is only normal that this reflects on to this miss world thing aswell.

I am from The Netherlands/Holland AND i happen to be the same mix as Miss Sopacua...half dutch and half Moluccan(indonesia) (google that ) my biggest thing is that she and i are living here because of dutch colonial history!!! and many european countrys have colonial history so THINK before u judge about mixing up races and all that BLA BLA BLA

She has represented our country because she is a reflection of the women who live here, in our multi cultural country. Same goes for the other northern european Misses

it is the year 2006 people....

funny thing that the canadian Miss who won 2005 is originally from i believa russia

Posted by Guessedworker on January 17, 2006, 06:29 PM | #

Bernardo,

Are the peoples of Molucca threatened with genocide in the 21st century like the people of Holland?

“Your” multiracial world is not theirs or mine.  Their country and mine are being occupied by aliens under the coersion of liberal laws.  Our political and intellectual elites have decided to abolish the ties we have to our own lands.  They have not asked us whether we want this.  They simply make resistance illegal/immoral when, of course, it is natural and highly moral.  Do you seriously expect us to accept this situation indefinitely.  Would you expect the Mollucans to accept it if it was happening to them?

Posted by USAGuy on April 09, 2006, 03:27 AM | #

This conversation has gone to the other side of the pond, we have had this for a while in the US now its in Europe. In the US, we have women like J. Lo and Jessica Alba. The more traditional American blonde is getting more and more rare, in fact, where I live I see more hispanic types than anything else. the first four women could easily pass for Hispanics in New York or Los Angeles. I myself have no preference for any race.

Posted by Jo on April 30, 2006, 07:12 PM | #

I’m Danish and thanks for the support Denmark.  Yes, we have more blondes and blonds (male) up here than in fx. the UK or US but the blonde stereotype is highly exaggerated and I don’t think they look more Danish than brunettes or redheads. 

The women on men’s magazines are most often brunettes and the issues with a brunette model on sells more.  Blonde models are used for the weekend ads and sometimes in women’s magazines because blonde is the homely and common color here.

Being a natural raven (adopted from Thailand) I often experience the same kind of preferential treatment from men and hostile treatment from women that blondes talk about in the UK and US.  I’ve heard the same from natural brunettes here and a group of brunettes and I often experience the more common blondes at kindergarten meetings and events excluding us and keeping their husbands away from us.  Just something to think about…

Posted by MrZ on May 29, 2006, 02:46 PM | #

Interesting but useless debate.

Of course white women are the most attractive women in the world. They are the most desired. Ask any Asian, African or whoever ‘other’ male.

To all the politically correct do-gooders..Nope, this isn’t something thats been propaged by the western media on defining beauty. It’s actual preference. For example..place a good looking blonde in any african or indian village, and she will be jumped on. Place a african girl in any european village, and they will think a crop worker has got lost, and send her away.

Posted by Stephen Edwards on May 29, 2006, 07:19 PM | #

Fred, you’re putting the cart before the horse. If we don’t have any scientific evidence for Negroes and Euros being separate species then your theory can’t account for much.

Posted by Nio Zilda on May 30, 2006, 02:38 AM | #

Blacks & whites members of different species...maybe one could define ‘race’-mixing as bestiality & outlaw it that way

Posted by Nio Zilda on May 30, 2006, 04:07 AM | #

Yes, if you compare a very extreme West African negroid type with a Nordic, you are virtually looking at different species, the morphological differences are so great. On the other hand, if you use the more common interfertility criterion, I suppose the most arguable species, or at least sub-species, barrier in modern humans is between those with rh+ blood and those with rh- blood.

Posted by boreal on July 09, 2006, 04:26 PM | #

Just was googling on miss universe and encounterd this discussion. A very interesting one.
Have you noticed that this year all representatives of Nordic Countries are really different?

Posted by Reality on August 07, 2006, 11:43 PM | #

WE are enticed into a conditioning of a stanadard beautiful that has all the fasination of a northern light, however, but like too much symettry and convention, hypnotic perfection loses its appeal after some short time and then we are back to idiosynchrony where the individual prefers on the whole, exploration and diversity through malalignment.  Some people are obssessed, fascinated with certain films or music they repeat the tracks for some weeks until it girates to boredom.....no amount of idealism is stable or consistent just as the human brain.

I wonder if say a vital organ had ultimate beauty if it indeed would appeal to a less attractive face or if say a beautiful face had slight gauntness that it detracted from potential ultimitism? - I had always thought movement had a great deal to with what beauty is considered to be!.  I am an exact replica of image one but with a shorter neck, larger and almond eyes and milk bottle white and definitley curvier.....I am a hot chick and always never short of male attention, however, the point is that men can get bored despite what fascination lies beneath it and in relaity cannot handle being with a beautiful woman as it raises feelings of insecurity and yet, all that we are are mere projections of what we are perceived to be.  Models all over the world are some of the most lonliest because of the categorzation, airbrushing, model perfectionism that even themselves cannot live up to their own standards of beauty and removes them from the mainstream which most men prefer being inside the crowd - not isolated with a beautiful woman for the rest of their eternity.  It is romantiscism warped and like all ordinary women, models etc have off days, periods, dentures, improvements to emphasise what they think is ultimate in beauty stanadards that a great deal many are not in fact interested.

Cultured, intelligent and truly attractive people are fascinated by Inuit, Native, aborigional as well as all other creeds and cultures and are not restricted in their tastes for one sort over another.  Colour is cometicism when it depends upon volumes of shade and tone, movement that defines what is attractive to one and not another, our perceptions alter according to a great deal many of things and contradicts time-thought in imagery if this concept is understood?

I have seen some very soft pictures of Deborah harry in one light and one side of her profile and that of a sharper contrast and my own perception alter drastically.  For an appeal to be constant, it has to be a premeditated, conditioning that cognitive process have become familiar and persuaded by the perception. There truly is no such thing in this instance for humanity to have a decive notion of what perfection really is and explains why we may have our favourite foods and cars etc, but we rely upon variation to make informed choices that alter with every perception even if we stick with our choices. 

I’d like to see an argument that could possibly contradict this article!

Posted by Reality on August 08, 2006, 12:49 AM | #

The point to my earlier post is that, it is just so easy for economic profiteers to exclued and alienate the less familiar racial groups on the globe that are inevitably perceived for instance, with the kind of ignorance we are by now apt in the art of anti-diversity.  No one particular group has consciously selected this except for what works economically in a globalized marketing industry.  Therefore, our acknowledgements of other diverse races competing for instance and whatever the political motive, are misinformed when we have only our alienated perceptions to rely upon ‘selectivism’ and we are only given a selected few choices of racial identities of representative beauty.

Multi-culturalism is thus ill-defined and contrasts cannot be adequatley argued.  Arguments turn pathetic when comparing shades of skin that are either appealing or not or shapes of noses.  These women are all grouped in the same light of exclusivity and europeanism whether origin comes in to it or not - they are all representing a euopean world-view called inclusion.  External races are somewhat out of this equasion and some of the most exquisite of people’s of the world are denied any opportunity and left for the National Geographic society for some amount of perceived portrayal. 

All in all, we are more threatened by our own ignorance than by any concept of racial identity competitiveness that is merely based upon media projection and our own perceptions of what we really are still primordial beneath elaborate justifications of our likes and dislikes.

Posted by J Richards on August 08, 2006, 03:12 AM | #

Reality,

There is no need for you to resort to postmodernist language.  The scope of this entry is fairly straightforward: Nordic nations should be represented by Nordic whites in beauty pageants.  Just as non-white races have their own beauty pageants, white women should have one of their own, too.  Cultured, intelligent and attractive people who are fascinated by non-whites are more than welcome to attend and focus on non-white beauty pageants.  They shouldn’t make a mockery of beauty pageants by having non-white women represent European nations and having less attractive non-white women outcompete better looking white women.

I do not know what you tried to convey about Deborah Harry; she is not attractive.

There is a great deal of physical diversity in Europe, and some of this diversity is also found among the ranks of attractive white women.  In other words, nobody is proposing some very strict standards by which female attractiveness should be judged.

If you are indeed an attractive woman, consider submitting a picture of yourself to us.  I could use you as an example of what whites stand to lose if non-white genetics creep into the white gene pool.

Posted by Kurt on September 12, 2006, 01:09 AM | #

Yeah, these Nordic girls you posted are very attractive.  But hey, the mediterranean / mixed girls are pretty attractive too.  Oh well… we all have our own taste.  My favorite trait is red hair.

Posted by Nordicpanther.com on October 10, 2006, 12:33 AM | #

Mixing is an interesting concept.
Big breasts or big bottoms
light hair or dark hair
light eyes or dark eyes.
If a red headed green eyed woman found a dark haired brown eyed man attractive should the rest of the redhaired community look down on her?
I like white woman because they are white,black women because they are black and so on and so on.
So called intelligent people believe that things do not exist until they are labeled so everyone seeks to label that which already exists in a blind pursuit of vanity.(u know who u r)
For those fools I submit my beliefs on beauty. I believe men posses five degrees of attraction that can be described by the following.
Beautiful
pretty
Sexy
Cute
and.. I’d fuck her.
Depending on a mans personal psychological disposition determined by his strength of character, personal self confidence and or feeble minded conformity to social structure he will choose a mate.
I am very in touch with my sexuality and perceptions of beauty and I am very confident in saying that a man who says one “type” of woman is whole heartedly more beautiful than another simply does not know better because he has not seen enough living in that small minded microcosm he calls a town.
I invite all of the people hating morons who have passed pseodo academic blatherskite off as gospel to test themselves in an honest arena. A brilliant singer in the 70’s said “Every body is beautiful in their special way...”
To the people haters I say stand near a gorgeous latin woman and smell her hair observe her curves and don’t turn away from the fire in her eyes. And when she speaks remember it’s not your job to edit her comments..It’s your job to hear what she is saying.

What’s so odd about white supremicists is that they believe that people of color are trying to put an end to their race. If you bozos are truly greater than the rest of the world it would be a good idea to spread that wondrous genetic material to help the lesser peoples of this planet. You put cream in cofee not the other way around. The White supremecist movement is backed by a bunch of rhythmless little dicked wet cardboard clammy bozos who need some black pussy. (or yellow pussy or red pussy or tan pussy yatta yatta yatta .) It is your “Purity” that divides you it is your social disorder that has placed you on the endangered species list. Darwinism should prompt you to evolve.

_nordicpanther

Posted by Guessedworker on October 10, 2006, 09:25 AM | #

A very Jewish sentiment, “Nordicpanther”.

It is our genetic integrity that is under attack, as you well know, and raising a defence is not “supremacism”.

I suggest you recommend the Falasha anti-miscegeny law be repealed and a Palestinian law of return be passed in Israel forthwith.

Posted by Anya on January 07, 2007, 05:53 PM | #

hmm I can’t understand why you regard the fact that only blond hair/blue eyed women must be an ideal of beauty? Time flows and ideals change. And beaty isn’t defined and unchangable conception,it’s different in everyone’s eyes. For example I think that women with blond brows look uninteresting,dim. And I like only miss Finland (from those 3 blond women above).I don’tlike thin lips either.
In my county Tatiana Kotova won crown of miss Russia this year. And I absolutaly love the way she looks. She’snot so thin as models usually are. She has so called eastern figure.She’s not so tall. And she has blond hair . But her facial feathures ar more eastern . And in fact I really dislike the Anna Litvinova-ex miss Russia . I don’t like her face. They could find somebody way better for example Zamira Jabrailova-miss Chechnya.
thats Tatiana Kotova. I think she’s beautiful and way better than all the blond girls you posted. What about Aiswarya.I consider she’s much more beautiful than Kotova or anybody else.

Posted by Anya on January 07, 2007, 06:35 PM | #

that’s Litvinova-nothing special

that’s miss Zamira

Posted by Lurker on January 08, 2007, 12:26 AM | #

The three girls look ‘dim’ do they Anya, your powers of observation are prodigious indeed.

Posted by Deena on April 17, 2007, 06:54 AM | #

Hi guys,I think that all of them are nice so what’s up with the racist issue?

Posted by Guessedworker on April 17, 2007, 07:43 AM | #

What’s up is that Jewish and/or liberal “scientists” such as Ziv, Le Roi and Rhodes are promoting white miscegenation in the cause of greater beauty and evolutionary fitness.  They are the racists, not us.  We are the defenders of white interests and the white right not to be lied to in a hidden cause.  Wake up.

Posted by ok on April 22, 2007, 03:18 AM | #

I feel the austrailian one and the south african one are the best ... while, dutch one is the worst.. what did dutch men think?? brainwashed??

Posted by ok on April 22, 2007, 03:40 AM | #

from 1-4 in order of preference

2 slightly like

4 slightlt like

1 sorta dislike

3 hate!

over

Posted by uuu on April 22, 2007, 03:45 AM | #

“and i’m not just saying that because i’m not caucasion before you make assumptions...i just stumbled across this thread and i had to post because i think you people are WEIRD! lololol why can’t you just relax ease into the 21st century...we have planes and ferries now if u haven’t realised and people are free to roam the earth...you people are crazy and backwards and don’t like other races...and don’t bother posting back because i just came across this thread and i won’t be back...peace and love xxx “

we do not object to that they respresent their own race.so mr richards said:

“I would rather have the current Miss South Africa flee the hell-hole of South Africa and settle in the West--let the black Africans represent African nations in beauty contests.”

Posted by okk on April 22, 2007, 04:21 AM | #

“Of course white women are the most attractive women in the world. They are the most desired. Ask any Asian, African or whoever ‘other’ male.

To all the politically correct do-gooders..Nope, this isn’t something thats been propaged by the western media on defining beauty. It’s actual preference. For example..place a good looking blonde in any african or indian village, and she will be jumped on. Place a african girl in any european village, and they will think a crop worker has got lost, and send her away.”

so, will smith ,etc didn’t marry white women,(they could of course ) because they know PC was only surface ,not stable??

remeber the old hollywood.no one protested at the marriage between May Britt and Sammy Davis Jr or joanna shimkus and sidney poitier, but their career had declined since then
silently

Posted by uuu on April 22, 2007, 04:36 AM | #

well, Ziv, Le Roi Rhodes should get themselves each a black wife first, then go on doing their promotings

Posted by Ana_·.* on May 30, 2007, 10:16 AM | #

latin beauty is the best!!

:D

im half spanish half colombian and i must say that our beauty is more real and exotic than those superblond barbies..

i have nothing against blonds really, but i few years ago,
if u werent blond, blue eyed, fair skin, tall and skinny
you werent beautiful..

and latin girls are the oppsite of that, we are brunettes, have dark eyes, tanned and curvy

luckily that is changing and now latin girls are being the most beautiful

Posted by Celtiberian on June 05, 2007, 05:00 PM | #

Without words.

Conference international public in Moscow for the white survival.

Here is Western, absolute silence.

http://www.ateney.ru

Posted by EC on June 05, 2007, 07:38 PM | #

Hey now, after reading all your comments about the European beauty contest, can anyone really blame Sweden for opting out of what is really...shall we call it an insipid, silly event? 

I personally find all of these women beautiful, but that’s not the key issue here, is it?  I have to admit I was shocked, as usual (you people keep me coming back for more upsetness every day and I’m afraid that now I’m hooked!) to see the people chosen to represent those countries.  wth!

Yes, my jaw literally dropped!  I could care less if people find my comment racist--as if that is worse than the bulldozing of my country, it’s people and it’s culture!

How many more generations before the blue eyes and blonde hair have forever been erased from the genepool?  I don’t hate other cultures, but when they threaten to swallow up mine, something called basic instinct for survival kicks in.

Is it too late to do something about this?

Posted by EC on June 05, 2007, 08:26 PM | #

One last post to illustrate the point that the question raised is not one of beauty, but rather of appropriateness of contestant to the nation represented:

Here is a simple test to see if you have been brainwashed.

So, which of these women would you think should be the logical candidates to represent Sweden (or any of the Nordic countries)?  Who would you vote for?

If you chose any of the first three women, something is wrong with you.  Period.  End of story.

Posted by EC on June 05, 2007, 10:37 PM | #

Got that right!  Otherwise, what is the point?

Posted by EC on June 05, 2007, 10:52 PM | #

This looks a-ok to me…

Posted by Super Amanda on June 19, 2007, 01:47 AM | #

How dare you have Birth of Venus and use my country of origin to decorate your bad logic!
I’m white and see nothing wrong with any of these contestants. Remember that you don’t get this far in the contests without being a solid and intelligent woman as well as beautiful I’m sure Miss Norway knows more about being Norweigian than some hate speech idiot sitting in wife beater somewhere in the slums of Denver without even a GED yet you would have more respect for him, why?

Face it: WHITE MEN raped, fell in love and/or married African, Asian, Latino and Native American women all over the world and started this race mixing you deplore and ‘blame the jews for’ centuries ago. White women want and have wanted curly full hair, fulller lips, smaller waists, with higher protruding butts and they tan themselves to death literally.

Don’t blame the media because white women are very intelligent and we can think for ourselves. You may also be surprised to learn that like Jessica Alba, Lynda Carter aka Wonder Woman and Raquel Welch are also half Mexican and Bolivian respectively yet I’m sure none of you would have a problem calling THEM “white.”

Bottom line, hateful men and their dumpy unattractive women have no comprehension or appreciation of true beauty and intelligence.

Bleached silicone clones in black latex does not a true beauty-much less a Venus make. Don’t drag the beautiful women of Italy via the masters of art into your 19th century gross minterperations of Darwin , capice?

Posted by ohp on June 19, 2007, 06:38 AM | #

Amanda,

Your “country of origin” didn’t exist when Botticelli was alive, and your Sicilian peasant ancestors might as well have been living in a different universe for all they contributed to the Florentine Renaissance.

You know nothing about the tastes of white men, and you don’t speak for white women.

You have a very limited view of history if you think race mixing began with European colonization.

The existence of Australian Aborigine-European hybrids proves some men will fuck absolutely anything rather than face celibacy. Such cases do not prove white men find Aborigine women more attractive than white women.

No one with eyes is surprised Jessica Alba has mestizo ancestry, and no but you cares about “wonder woman”. “Bolivian” is not a race, and Raquel Welch is by all accounts of entirely European ancestry.

Bottom line, someone of your proportions shouldn’t be ragging on “dumpy” women. To be fair, as dumpy women go, you’re not ugly (no rolls of fat visible with your clothes on), and I’m sure you’d look quite good in your natural environment (a Sicilian farm field). But your chest, which a quick glance at your site tells me you’re inordinately proud of, is not impressive for someone with your high body fat percentage.

In the future, please try to preface your link spam with original thoughts, rather than MTV talking points, capisce?

Posted by Tommy G on June 19, 2007, 07:07 PM | #

After viewing your video, Amanda, all I can say is: WOW! VA VA VOOOOM!!! If you weren’t so voluptuous, in would be inclined to agree with Fred...but I think you deserve a pass.

Posted by Copperhead on August 27, 2007, 09:06 PM | #

In all of these countries these splendid women beat out what was previously passing as beautiful.

If you think there is something wrong with that I suppose it is obvious that you are a dying breed, and should go the way of the dinosaur.

How intelligent is it to keep making ugly people for the purpose of national pride?

I think you fellas need to think with your dicks on this one because your brains are obviously over thinking this.

As for the bozos who are tossing insults at one country or the other…
Please grow up. How do you think your branch of the species got to where you are?
No one ever picked crops in France?
There are no such thing as potato farmers in europe?

If you use telephones, Railroads, Lightbulbs, Gunpowder, Peanut butter or anything else developed by other “Races” you have been benefitting from the genetic contribution of so called less intelligent peoples.

If you still believe mating with a curveless thin lipped pasty skinned woman who can’t play in the daylight for fear of sunburn is something to aspire for...Or perhaps love to lay in bed with a man with similar weaknesses to his changing environment…
more power to you.

There was a reason why modern man replaced chromagnan. I imagine they had similar discusiions like this.
“....I think Pangea women are more attractive than Atlantean women!...”
(lol)
Stop the hate before I tell the next big rap artist to make a video in your town and start a rush on your women!!!!
BTW what’s with the whole anti jew thing? That’s soooo 1942 I long for the day I can wear my doc martens and suspenders again and not be mistaken for something I am not.

Posted by Alejandro on October 22, 2007, 10:49 AM | #

I think that these mixed race women are miss scandinavia is simple pathetic.

Posted by Tyrone on January 12, 2008, 07:01 AM | #

Your war is over and we have already won.  Like in the days of Noah, we will win over the white race by any means.  #1 we will out mate you. #2 We will steal you woman and breed you out. Learn to love it.

Posted by Andrew on January 12, 2008, 07:54 PM | #

Even if that be true, you and your ilk are not capable of producing a society that can sustain it self, other than revert to primitivism; the seeds of truth lay in your ancestral shit holes , there for lends more credence to the fact that when those that are capable are gone from the Western world, so will the prosperity and ability.

So on your line of thought, enjoy your primitive living hell parasite.

Posted by Super Amanda on January 12, 2008, 08:29 PM | #

LOL How funny, I had forgotten about this ignorant web page! 100% bet that none of you can get by without more personal attacks on me-ad hominem is the first refuge of a hateful scoundrel or would that be patriotism? Ambrose Bierce was right.

How about a page of photos for Dr. James ‘Black Brother’ Watson and his 16% African ancestry-how funny, he slags blacks and ends up with 16% African dna, makes one wonder what all the rabid racists have to hide but I’m sure you have arationality for that too. If you can’t see it it can’t be right?

“Raquel Welch is by all accounts of entirely European ancestry.”

That’s why she call herself “finally out of the closet as a Hispanic” now and proudly starred in “Tortilla Soup.” That’s not how SHE views herself !

And to the person who said all that crap about me-MY lineage not only goes back to Siciliana’s beautiful fields but Botticelli’s region of Italy but also to Napoleons Corsica so don’t tell me what I am perhaps so many of you would be better suited for navigating your own lives instead of telling others how to live there’s.

You know what? Women are beautiful and sex rules, you want to try and redirect the floe of lava from a volcano, good luck but it’s never going to stop.

keep it simple , BREED WITH WHOMEVER WANTS TO BRED with you and don’t worry so much about what other people are doing out of their own free will. TRAVEL THE WORLD virtually all of it is incredibly beautiful it’s greed , materialism and cruelty not love and sex between the races that has screwed everything up. GET A LIFE!

Posted by Guessedworker on January 12, 2008, 08:46 PM | #

If you are a half-caste, Amanda - and I guess you are - you’re a racist half-caste.  Get some morals.

Posted by Super Amanda on January 12, 2008, 09:15 PM | #

Sorry but I’m about as half caste as Edgar Winter!  I’m white and I’m proud! It’s in my DNA and my life you stupid pig. I’m just not an ignorant racist about being white but if it threatens you and pisses you off good. “Half Caste” oh plaese low IQ city and bad outdated expressions. You Brits should now better you are becoming more and more like suburban Americans everyday.

Posted by Super Amanda on January 12, 2008, 09:21 PM | #

Please do not respond to me, anyone, unless you have read all my comments, not just the last one. I could careless about race but one someone takes a beautiful work of art that they had nothing to do with and uses it to try and frame their web page that surrounds their disgusting theories of beauty and social Darwinism then i like to throw it in their face that they do not define what is beautiful and what is white. Genetics and DNA does, so stand in line at the lab racist haters and let’s see where you REALLY are from.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on January 12, 2008, 09:25 PM | #

You grant women the vote, and you can kiss your nation-state good-bye.  Forever.

Posted by Guessedworker on January 12, 2008, 09:30 PM | #

Then are you Jewish?

In any case, it IS racist to wish genocide on a people, Amanda.  There is deep immorality in your advocacy of miscegenation, and nought but honour in our rejection of it.

Look, read this document, which is the UN’s Declaration of Rights of Indigenous Peoples, approved by the General Assembly in September last year.

For example:-

CONCERNED that indigenous peoples have been deprived of their human rights and fundamental freedoms, resulting, inter alia, in their colonization and dispossession of their lands, territories and resources, thus preventing them from exercising, in particular, their right to development in accordance with their own needs and interests,

RECOGNIZING the urgent need to respect and promote the inherent rights and characteristics of indigenous peoples, especially their rights to their lands, territories and resources, which derive from their political, economic and social structures and from their cultures, spiritual traditions, histories and philosophies,

Indigenous peoples have the collective and individual right not to be subjected to ethnocide and cultural genocide, including prevention of and redress for:

(a) Any action which has the aim or effect of depriving them of their integrity as distinct peoples, or of their cultural values or ethnic identities;
(b) Any action which has the aim or effect of dispossessing them of their lands, territories or resources;
(c) Any form of population transfer which has the aim or effect of violating or undermining any of their rights;
(d) Any form of assimilation or integration by other cultures or ways of life imposed on them by legislative, administrative or other measures;
(e) Any form of propaganda directed against them.

Now, would you care to argue that Europeans in their own living spaces are not indigenous peoples, and do not qualify for the protections afforded above.

Good luck with that.

Posted by Anya on January 12, 2008, 09:41 PM | #

Well, somehow this guy is right..

Posted by Andrew on January 12, 2008, 10:32 PM | #

16% African DNA? , that prompts another question or two; how do you know this? And what other species are crossed bread with you?, What mongrel breed of DNA constitutes the remaining 84% DNA, and as G W pointed out , this may well go along way in explaining the pathological traits you display, and the super wind bag nagging.

It was a few weeks ago, I had observed a dark; , Very Dark skinned woman, who displayed European facial features, Very distinct European features although the skin color was as if the tree had to be shaken quite hard for her to fall out, I was some what taken and mesmerized by her appearance.

You are left with a strange feeling of ; What the hell is going on here.
Ha.

Posted by Super Amanda on January 12, 2008, 11:08 PM | #

“Then are you Jewish?”

About as Jewish as Osma Bin laden!  I’m, a white agnostic Italian American woman , it’s on my birth records it’s my DNA and it’s my cultural and racial heritage and while I understand that multi-cultralism is not the answer and that people do better races-when they can embrace their culture without feeling ashamed racial superiority and extremism is not the answer.

I think it IS unfair that in US public schools you can’t study Scandinavian, Italian, Greek or Dutch etc etc history with out someone screaming “white supremacist” at you . I’m also a bit annoyed that the only cultural documentaries on PBS seem to be on Jews or blacks beacuse frankly in public schools you are taught more about their history then our own if you are of European descent and THAT is unfair because I WANT TO LEARN ABOUT BOTH. Sadly, the only place a proud European American has to turn to for cultural identification in the US is to extremists who are hateful sometimes in the guise of pseudo science but usually extremist like on Stromfront

Italian Americans have been very hurt by multiculturalism in the states. Black, Jews , Mexicans have been careful NOT to assimilate and to retain their culture but Italians have foolishly wanted to be Northern European/Irish/ Anglo Americans and distance themselves from the Mediterranean influence (re: North African) and that has been a big mistake beacuse Italy is a very separate and important country with it’s own greatness which i discovered when i moved there for year back in 2002. remember I’m from the states, our view of race is not like someone from here in the UK.

That’s a whole other book to write!

But still, a lecture on how people perceive beauty is pointless.

You can’t legislate, direct or control how people view beauty. everyone sees with their own eyes.

Posted by Super Amanda on January 12, 2008, 11:20 PM | #

Andrew: READ MY PRIOR COMMENTS!

We are not disagreeing. I’m simply pointing out that SO many people who get angry about” race mixing” and call it all these awful things like the “end of beauty” and the end of race etc need to be very careful about what they are saying.

James Watson, who STOLE the DNA double Helix discovery from Rosalind Franklin and went on to win a Nobel Prize claimed blacks were inferior and then his own DNA test revealed that he has 16% African DNA. Hahaha Most white Europeans, even the whitest of the white, have about 2-3 % beacuse that’s where we all originate genetically. For Watson to have 16% means one of his grandparents was of predominately African origin.

I could careless but someone so nasty and racist such as Watson recalls an old adage
“How do you know who your daddy is? Because your mother told you.”

If you want to solve the white issues of feeling shut out then create FRIENDLY groups that allow Europeans to celebrate being who they are without SHUTTING OUT and being hateful.

Better yet, take people as individuals.