Oh for G-d’s sake: insane miscegenation propaganda

Posted by JB on August 29, 2006, 07:15 PM | #

I’ve found the perfect mate for Ziv :

I can only imagine all the vibrancy, the strength, the intelligence, the nice odor and the mastery of all things sexual that his mixed race children are going to have. In a few generations Africa’s problems would disappear if Alon, Schlomo, Moshe, Ari and all the others would move to Africa to produce mixed-race children with the natives.

Posted by On Holliday on August 29, 2006, 07:39 PM | #

Nice picture JB, but I don’t think Mr. Ziv will be interested.  You see, he wants *you* to mate with that.

Ziv et al will stick to “Jdate”

Posted by On Holliday on August 29, 2006, 07:45 PM | #

Apparently, there other of Ziv’s co-ethnics have a “problem” with respect to promoting white-colored inter-racial mating:

http://interracialfamilycircle.org/Library/Outside/10102.htm

It seems to be a deep-seated urge - possibly genetic?

Perhaps Diaspora Peoples are selected to promote miscegenation among the host peoples, to disrupt the hosts’ biological and cultural homogeneity, and make the host a better fit for the “guest” ethny (another name may come to mind, starting with the letter “p").

Posted by Desmond Jones on August 29, 2006, 08:13 PM | #

Strangely, IFC admits to some interesting anomalies:

Census Bureau analyst Nicholas A. Jones said that although the census has gathered data on race since 1790, the 2000 census was the first to allow people to describe themselves as more than one race. The new report is the first to analyze the characteristics, education and income of these 7.2 million people, he said. Data show that the mixed-race population is youthful—more than 40 percent are 18 or younger.
Mixed-race persons 15 and older are less likely to be married compared with the overall U.S. population—27 percent versus 37 percent, respectively. They are also more likely to be foreign-born than the U.S. population—24 percent versus 11 percent, respectively. The mixed-race population is less likely to finish high school, but more likely to go to college, [how does that work?] than the general population. They are also more likely to be in service, sales, construction, production or transportation jobs. The median family income of a mixed-race couple is $39,432, compared with $50,046 of all U.S. families. Mixed-race children are also more likely to live in poverty than the overall child population—nearly 20 percent, compared with nearly 17 percent, respectively.

Posted by ben tillman on August 30, 2006, 04:50 AM | #

...another name may come to mind, starting with the letter “p”.

“Parasite” or “pathogen”?

Posted by On Holliday on September 05, 2006, 09:02 AM | #

See here, Sailer critiques Ziv:
http://www.vdare.com/sailer/060904_interracial.htm

One wonders to what extent the “great man” was prompted to do so by sharp critiques here and elsewhere, and, more to the point, to what extent his arguments were influenced by others.  Of course, Steve “I’m allergic to EGI” Sailer won’t mention that, but read below.

Now, Sailer *has* read Ziv’s book (countering an argument made by some here), so we can put that aside.

Sailer makes arguments typical to what we have seen in this thread, including citing the DECode genetics data on hybrid incomptability.  But there are some useful new things:

1) Cochran’s and Harpending’s claim that there is NO evidence that inter-racial couples have a statistically greater number of children than do endogamous couples.  Therefore, the loss of parental kinship is being “compensated” by *nothing.* That, and not Tiger Woods’ body odor, is what is meant by “fitness.” Therefore, it is clear that inter-racial couplings *reduce* fitness by decreasing parental kinship without any compensatory fitness advantages.

2) the vaunted increase in IQ seen in Hawaiian Eurasians is only two points - which is ~ 1/7 of a SD!  Putting aside whether or not that is a real effect, parental kinship should be ruined for a 2 point increase in mean IQ?

Sailer is afraid to mention parental kinship or EGI, but we here are not.  Thus, Ziv tells us that we should ruin our parental kinship and EGI for illusory, tiny, “hybrid vigor”, or, in some cases, outright hybrid incompatibility - and that there are no observed compensatory changes in fitness at all.

Thus, Ziv’s “advice” is a net negative.  Could one expect anything different from an individual named “Alon Ziv?”

By the way, Ben, the word I was thinking about was “parasite”, but “pathogen” works as well, and in the case, of Ziv, much better.

Posted by Bo Sears on September 05, 2006, 07:32 PM | #

Steve sailer posted on this same issue on VDARE today at:

http://www.vdare.com/sailer/060904_interracial.htm

It is a little hard to tell what Peter Brimelow is up to regarding Sailer’s postings. In this posting, Sailer touches not at all on the topic of immigration reform.

Posted by Bo Sears on September 05, 2006, 07:35 PM | #

I guess this posting was lost. Steve Sailer’s views on this topic were aired again today by Peter Brimelow at VDARE:

http://www.vdare.com/sailer/060904_interracial.htm

Not a word about immigration reform.

Posted by On Holliday on September 06, 2006, 09:51 AM | #

At GNXP, David B - in order to “annoy certain people” - is claiming that Vivien Leigh got her “dark looks” from being an Anglo-Indian mongrel.  The facts on Leigh and her alleged “dark looks” (sic) can be observed here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivien_Leigh

As if Leigh’s ancestry has any bearing on the adaptive value of inter-racial mating in any case.

One could imagine David B meeting Razib/GC:

Razib/GC: “bend over!”
David B: [giggling nervously]: pleased to meet you, Ben.

(apologies to Chevy Chase)

Posted by brock stevens on September 19, 2006, 11:45 AM | #

I’m pretty positive that Alon is not Jewish, but is Turkish (either Christian or Muslim).

Moreover, he’s hardly PC - he dedicates Chapter 4 to showing why race is not a social construct.

Posted by Guessedworker on September 19, 2006, 12:22 PM | #

Brock,

According to the website Behind The Name both Alon and Ziv are Jewish first names.  No other origin supplied.

Posted by ben tillman on September 19, 2006, 09:20 PM | #

“Alon” is Hebrew for oak:

http://www.myjewishlearning.com/lifecycle/Conversion/IdeatoRealization/RabbinicRequirements/PickHebrewName.htm

Regarding the different categories of Jewish names, they can be classified in general as follows:

i. Biblical names - i.e., names mentioned in the five books of the Torah, in the Prophets, or in the Holy Scriptures;

ii. Talmudic names - i.e., names originally found in the Talmud and Midrashim;

iii. Names found in Nature - in the animal world, some of which also appear in Scripture, such as Chava, Rachel, Devorah, Tziporah, Yonah, etc. There are also names from the animal kingdom not mentioned in Scripture as names of people, such as Aryeh, Zev, Tzvi; such names originated with the blessings of Yaakov and Moshe, who applied the names of various living things to the Tribes of Israel;

iv. Names found in Nature - in the plant world, some of which also appear in Scripture, such as Tamar, etc. Other such names are Shoshana, Alon, Oren, Oranah, Aviva, etc.

v. Names that include the Name of G-d within them, and names that express thanks to G-d;

vi. Names of Angels, that have been adopted as human names;

vii. Secondary names, that occur jointly with the primary name, though occasionally they occur alone.

http://www.chabad.org/library/article.asp?AID=273281

Posted by ben tillman on September 19, 2006, 09:23 PM | #

Ziv is Hebrew for “Radiance, brilliance or light of God.” Ziv is also the name of the second month in the Jewish calendar, the month of celebration of Israel’s Independence.

http://www.thinkbabynames.com/search/0/jewish

Posted by Fred Scrooby on September 19, 2006, 09:57 PM | #

Vivien Leigh was white.  David B. is thinking of Leigh’s contemporary Merle Oberon, known since her death to have been of mixed race (and often said to have been a great beauty, with which I personally disagree):

Oberon was born in Bombay [...], India. Her mother, Charlotte, was an Anglo-Sinhalese nurse; her father, Arthur, was a British railway engineer. [...] Merle received a foundation scholarship to attend La Martiniere College for Girls, a well known Calcutta private school. There, she was constantly taunted for her unconventional parentage and eventually quit school and had her lessons at home. [...] In 1929, she met a former actor who claimed he could introduce her to Rex Ingram of Victorine Studios. Merle jumped at the offer and decided to follow the man to the studios in France. However, when he saw Merle’s dark mother one night at her apartment and realized Merle was mixed-race, he secretly decided to end the relationship. After packing all their belongings and moving to France, Merle and her mother found that their supposed benefactor had dodged them. However, he had left a good word for Merle with Rex Ingram at the studios in Nice. Ingram liked Merle’s exotic appearance. She was quickly hired to be an extra in a party scene. [...] During her time as a film star, Oberon went to great lengths to disguise her mixed-race background and when her dark-skinned mother moved in with her in Hollywood, she masqueraded as Oberon’s maid. Her mother passed away in 1937; in 1949 she commissioned paintings of her mother from an old photograph, instructing the artist to lighten her mother’s complexion. [...] Throughout her professional life Oberon denied her Indian background but maintained the fiction that she had been born and raised in Tasmania, Australia. That there were no birth or school records that could prove this was explained by another fabrication, that they had all been burnt in a fire. She is only known to have been to Australia once, when she agreed to visit Tasmania towards the end of her life. However, she was not seen in public, and she became ill shortly before attending a reception in her honour in Hobart; those who might have been in a position to confirm or disprove her Tasmanian connection were denied the opportunity to meet her and question her. The story of her alleged Tasmanian connections was comprehensively debunked after her death. It was shown to have been created to disguise her mixed-race Indian background. Yet there are still many people in Tasmania who claim to have known her as a child, and will apparently not be convinced otherwise. Unconvinced, however, was Warner Brothers megastar Errol Flynn, a real Tasmanian, who publicly chided Oberon.

Posted by JB on September 20, 2006, 03:47 PM | #

another study on multiracial offsprings concludes they have more psychological problems than the non-mixed :

http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2006/09/problem_behavio.php

For American children, says Yoonsun Choi, assistant professor at the School of Social Service Administration, early adolescence isn’t getting any simpler. Besides the awkwardness and looming angst, there’s this: more and more youth now find themselves navigating the uncertain territory of multiracial heritage. (Even the term is ambiguous; it can refer to having parents of different races or to generations-old diversity.) The multiracial experience frequently corresponds, Choi says, with higher rates of violence and substance use. “Consistently multiracial youth show, in almost all behavior problems—alcohol, smoking, marijuana, fighting—more problems than other children.”

Posted by Angelhair on January 28, 2007, 06:27 PM | #

This book is total garbage.  The development of races is a precurser to the development of new species.  A race naturally achieves a balance between genetic diversity and genetic disorder.  Too much diversity gives rise to disorders.  The higher level of genetic diversity between mates of different races is enough to increase the rate of genetic mutation and that means a higher risk for random genetic disorders in mixed-race offspring.  Otherwise you still end up with poorer appearance and lower intelligence.

As a white man, my only purpose in life is to have a hand full of beautiful healthy white kids.  The thought of “breading outside the lines” just makes me sick as does the sight of white men and women who have.  I guess they lack the biological imperative to preserve their heritage for their children, or perhaps it is so weak in them that is has been easily supressed by moral idiology, social conformity and/or the integrationist seductions of pop culture.

Posted by n on January 29, 2007, 12:37 AM | #

So many ignorant narrow minded people on this forum, what a joke!  Besides the girl on the front page of his book is not a great example.  However its clear that the further the gene pool is spread the more intelligent the people are.  If you have a close-nit community where people are related then you will find abnormalities, incest, ppl with downs syndrome and lower IQ levels.  Take a look at the royal family you hicks!

Posted by Bud White on January 29, 2007, 01:05 AM | #

“However its clear that the further the gene pool is spread the more intelligent the people are.”

Then how do you explain the Jews???

Posted by JB on February 03, 2007, 03:11 AM | #

here’s Alon Ziv pushing his bs on TV

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RWP8Pws9mw

“it’s 100 % true and based on scientific research”

I can’t post a link to MajorityRights in the comments on YouTube. I can’t believe the comments are filtered because they would need thousands of editors so perhaps there’s an automatic rejection of the comment if there’s a link in it.

there’s also Bill Nye the Science Twit pushing his bs about race on TV

http://youtube.com/watch?v=k8gyFy54VxM

Posted by ben tillman on February 03, 2007, 04:15 AM | #

Thanks for the Youtube link—now we can infer he’s a queer Jew:  “No, theriouthly—it’th bathed on thienthe!”

Posted by Guessedworker on February 03, 2007, 06:41 AM | #

It is not necessary to post a link.  Just say: “google AlonZiv R Richards” and scroll down a couple of places to the majorityrights entry.

Posted by JB on February 03, 2007, 04:23 PM | #

even better : we should make a semi-video (audio + still pics) about Alon Ziv’s bs and post it on YouTube. Richard’s review of the book could be converted into this semi-video. That would be a better way to promote MR than simply post a comment (I still can’t for some reason). There are video debates going on on YT with replies listed under “Video Responses”. Usually the debates are petty so our replies would raise the bar much higher

Posted by Guessedworker on February 03, 2007, 04:41 PM | #

How long would we need to film?

Posted by JB on February 03, 2007, 08:27 PM | #

There may be a maximum length on the movies. I was thinking about making the major points against Ziv by reading parts of Richard’s article and posting pictures in the background (i.e. Klum & Seal’s little biracial troll)

Posted by Guessedworker on February 03, 2007, 10:33 PM | #

I imagine JR would wish to write or edit the script.  Matt Nuenke is interested in doing some film.  If you would like me to put you in touch with them both just let me know.

Posted by Englander on February 03, 2007, 10:47 PM | #

“Klum & Seal’s little biracial troll”

I look forward to seeing the result of your efforts but please leave this sort of thing out of it if you want the video to have any persuasive power at all.

Posted by JB on February 05, 2007, 05:17 AM | #

I look forward to seeing the result of your efforts but please leave this sort of thing out of it if you want the video to have any persuasive power at all.

I’m not sure I follow you. This

is a very good argument against race mixing

Posted by Englander on February 05, 2007, 11:55 AM | #

First of all, the kid doesn’t look so bad. Let’s wait until he’s older until we pass judgement. Secondly, it is the tone of the comments that would be off-putting to people. Nobody likes to see a small child or baby criticized. Thirdly, anyone reading it would immediately think of any number of attractive mixed people that they either know personally or who are celebrities. I’m not fan of them but mixed race celebs are currently in fashion and the selection of one mixed child who you happen to find unsightly will not convince anyone when they can think of numerous examples of attractive mixed people.

Posted by JB on February 05, 2007, 03:32 PM | #

I’m not fan of them but mixed race celebs are currently in fashion and the selection of one mixed child who you happen to find unsightly will not convince anyone when they can think of numerous examples of attractive mixed people.

let’s turn that around : how many racially mixed people have you personally seen and consider good looking ? I myself can only think of only one and she was half-white/half-japanese. I’ve recently seen children who were 1/4 black & 3/4 white and they were the ugliest humans I’ve seen in person. I’ve seen wholly black men and women that I would consider better looking than these children.

The mixed race celebs you refer to are promoted because they’re not really ugly and they can be the poster boys and girls of race mixing propaganda unlike the ones you can see in the real world just as characters played by Denzel Washington or Morgan Freeman can be sold - to whites - as a symbol of the good decent african-american always doing his best unlike the blacks in the real world.

Posted by JB on February 05, 2007, 04:10 PM | #

Is the mixed race woman a match for white beauty?

this one is a bit too ‘plastic’ for my taste. these ones are more beautiful

Posted by Englander on February 05, 2007, 05:03 PM | #

I do feel that the beauty of the white race has been somewhat undersold in this thread and others, with the author’s taste for rather uninteresting blondes leaving readers underwhelmed. I also think that the entertainment industry is not making use of the best our race has to offer, and I sometimes wonder if this is deliberate.

Posted by JB on February 13, 2007, 08:09 PM | #

there’s a Myspace page dedicated to Ziv’s book

http://www.myspace.com/breedingbetweenthelines

and Ziv has a page too :

http://www.myspace.com/78229176

Posted by Sue on April 11, 2007, 05:59 PM | #

Svyatoslav( the owner of this blog, please post his photograph here? Hitler was neither blonde nor blue eyed, yet he wanted to cleanse the world of non-blonde and blue eyed people. You are not one like him, are you? Prove it by posting your photograph.

Posted by *smirk* on May 12, 2007, 01:51 AM | #

I actually forced myself to read through most of the garbage on the page so that I could actually make relevant rebuttals, but I am honestly not going to do it systematically, would take far to long.

While not reading the actual book that spawned this “intellectual debate” I would only hope that the main idea behind it is looking at the genetic consequences of breeding over a long period of time only within a race based on the “home land” of said genetic “race” and giving a non socio-economic look at the advantages of fresh genetic strains made from the overlapping of genetic material derived from different races to get the general phonotypical traits. A good example of such would be a pure bred Japanese female. Typically short, prone to having to wear corrective eye wear, bad teeth, smaller breast, smaller gluteus maximum, in general speak a short, gnarled toothed, figureless almost ambiguously built human being. While the majority of white males in the current still are under the influence of WWII/Korean War vets who have spread rumors about the beauty and sophistication of Japanese girls…. In fact its propaganda which is perpetuated by ignorant, anime obsessed “Otaku” who look at Jap AV models and believe that almost every Japanese woman looks like such….. in the reverse it would be people looking at pop singers and movie actresses and thinking every female of any race represented by these people have THAT look here in America.

It is the fact that the representative pure bred or “F.O.B.” (fresh off the boat) asian is the result of only breeding within that race which by comparison to the land mass of other races’ “home lands” is small and by now is running thin on fresh genetic crosses, truly diminishing returns, especially in an island nation such as Japan and Okinawa.

I have also found that many “Asian Beauties” are in fact a mix of pure Asians of Chinese, Japanese or Vietnamese origin and a western European or African-American cross.

Why IQ was injected here I have no idea, time and time again it has been proven that IQ is not at all based on race, it is not nature it is almost wholistically nurture when healthy individuals are considered , to say otherwise is to reduce oneself to the stupidity of the average southern red-neck.

Honestly the white women featured here were rather boring and bland save for one or two, neither of those being the generic blondes, some of them who also had rather masculine Aryan square jaws which I would not cross with ever.

I can think of multiple pure breed uglies and mix breed beauties, multiple mix breed atrocities and pure breed goddesses. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but at the same time I have personally worked with individuals who have published studies on universal attractiveness and it was found that it was easier to get universally attractive looks in mixed breed children with a strikingly high approval rating for pure bred western European women of great breeding, north African women of great breeding, arab women of mix with north Africans and/or eastern Europeans of good breeding and almost universal acceptance of African-american/eastern European mixes and asian/eastern European/African American crosses.

When it comes to physical prowess and health to ignore the fact that what can only be classified as a sub race, that being “African-American”, is the result of selective breeding and therefore often superior in natural physical abilities is foolish. While great examples of Aryan individuals can be brought up, those individuals are in fact in the minority and often took far more resources and far more time to be competitive with their African-American counter parts. Remember, African slaves were chosen for their physical and biological endurances to replace native Americans who failed as slaves due to their lack of physical power and their complete lack of biological resistances to white illness.

After their initial introduction African blood lines were mixed with south American blood lines in areas such as Brazil, then later with Spanish and French (African-American Creole) blood lines to produce a generic African-American race which is the reason for said “races” diversity in skin color and features.

Basically slavery created a monster. It was a genetic breeding program that released as Chris Rock called it “super slaves” its proof being African American dominance of physical activity, mainly sports.

Now adding in sociology and a few hundred years of the playing field being leveled we have the ability to tie higher education to the African American blood line as well as that of asian, arab and most recently Mexican blood lines, thereby weakening “Aryan Superiority”.

It was interesting to me to see “Can people in their right mind believe that attractive white women can be improved upon if non-whites are absorbed into the white gene pool? “ under the pic of the white female as any good southern red-neck will tell you that a white blood line is “tarnished” or destroyed with the inclusion of another race. Indeed there is some truth to this as white genetic phonotypical traits have a tendency to be recessive while those of other races, especially African/African-American are dominant. In other words sociologically and genetically the white blood line is absorbed into the other race’s gene pool, NOT the other way around.

In fact be it not for white father driving the point home with white daughters not to race mingle, ESPECIALLY with blacks, the white race would honestly be lost to other races.

Lets face it gentlemen its all about fear. The white race is in fact fragile, mixing with any race other than “pure” (laughable, especially in North America) white bloodline will result in a hybrid which is sociologically and genetically not white but hybrid and for ease of identification (and to the lamentation of bigots) that of the other race. Nothing terrifies the majority of whites more than darker skinned races not only because of the majority of weak individuals in the “white” race (there are plenty of strong ones, just that the average white is not) being physically afraid of typically stronger dark skinned individuals but also because of the underlying and subconsciously understood fact that motivates it.

White kids are infatuated with black and asian culture anyone who is not blind can see this, white kids are not at all interested in white culture which has honestly become…… well nothing. Honestly Irish, Scotish, German and Italians tend to hold on to their culture the hardest in the “white” races but many people do not realized that Italians are a bastardization of Aryan and North African (Moore invasion and interbreeding – Moore being synonymous with ETHIOPIA) meaning that is not a tan… they are in fact a “black” race.

Because females tend to seek out alpha males for sexual encounters, inter-racial couples are on the rise, this is nothing new, its just becoming more and more wide spread as it becomes more and more acceptable in all of the races involved. All you can do is try to instill these thoughts in your white females….. but honestly it will not matter, unless this thought process is forged in hatred there is a great possibility she will be approached and accept and in all actuality approach a member of another race at some point. How do I know?

I am myself a African-American/Spanish/French/Viet hybrid with a long term relationship with an American-Indian/German/Spanish hybrid living in the southern united states. I am 6’2”, 245 pounds, own two successful businesses and have lived in predominately white areas and attended predominately white schools. I have never approached a white female, never had to, they were all to eager to approach me, regardless of what their fathers may have wanted. I was in fact at one time engaged to a black/jewish hybrid. This is the way of the world, this is the way of the future.

The point is mixed offspring on average have more pleasing features than the average representatives of “pure” examples. Your small sampling of society should in no way, shape or form be used as a rebuttal to any studies unless you have truly polled and researched outside of your immediate surroundings and the racially protective mindset instilled in you by family members or friends of family members. On average the basic point of this book can be easily observed in society.

At the risk of sounding anti-Semitic…… American jews are most likely one of the physically and biologically weakest races and tend to be passed up in regards to beauty comparison by all other races. There are seldom examples of jewish physical prowess or examples of them winning mainstream beauty contests and thus could gain a lot on those levels from crosses with other races. Typically a cross between a jew and a member of the “white” race is done so between individuals who would be unable to attract what would be deemed an attractive or physically superior specimen of any race….. its just the way it is, not at all being anti-Semitic

Posted by *smirk* on May 12, 2007, 02:10 AM | #

“Svyatoslav( the owner of this blog, please post his photograph here? Hitler was neither blonde nor blue eyed, yet he wanted to cleanse the world of non-blonde and blue eyed people. You are not one like him, are you? Prove it by posting your photograph.”

O’RLY...... Can you link us to a sound bite that can be translated or a manuscript of Hitler saying that he wanted to destroy every other race on the planet? Please do not confuse Hitler’s motivations with that of the Neo Nazi or even members of the Nazi Party.

Hitler felt the Aryan race was superior and wanted eradication of all others while not being of that race....? does that make sense to you? Does it make sense that he would say this while aligning himself with not only Russia before mistrust drove these two nations to war with each other, but also the Italians (genetically crossed whites with ethopians or “moors") or the japanese which could not be farther than pure Aryan. Do you think that the Japs would team up with someone who said this?

What you have done is taken the propoganda that was instilled in you and taken it as “Bible” truth, you never researched at all objectively. You never read what he was saying, you never got someone to translate his speeches.

I have not every read or heard Hitler say that he wanted the eradication of all non Aryan races and I challange others to show authentic, unrefutable evidence of such, as a matter of fact I will pay for it.

I could go more into this, but it would be attacked by close minded individuals who have not researched it, or supported by the wrong types who have likewise never researched it.

Hitler came into power and was supported by the german people for certain reasons, go find fact based examples of what they were before you talk about this period of time please........

Hitler is and was completely differant than Himler and almost polar to the neo-nazi.

Posted by uuu on May 14, 2007, 06:15 PM | #

lol, the white woman there is so tanned, looks mixed with mongoloids and negroids

Posted by uuu on May 14, 2007, 06:21 PM | #

lol the site is certainly not racist. it’s quite PC if compared to more free speech site like bastardly.com…

does any body have a pic of alon ziv?? is he fat stupid, old man???

Posted by uuu on May 14, 2007, 06:34 PM | #

seen his pic on his site, not ugly,,,, interesting....why?

Posted by uuu on May 14, 2007, 06:46 PM | #

to mr ziv:

do you have pig nose, slanty eyes, kinky hair, small penis,flat face, thick lips,coarse skin,??????.... you remind me of my shit....you should get mixed youself, especially with negroids

Posted by uuu on May 14, 2007, 07:09 PM | #

nice post jb!, that woman is now reserved for ziv..

if he really marries any african woman, he is genuine, if not he is a totally fuckin’ fake hypercrite

Posted by uuu on May 14, 2007, 07:40 PM | #

Englander is right, the real white classic beauties are underused
now the mainly stupid or plain looking blondes prevail

Posted by Bell on August 28, 2007, 02:05 AM | #

You people are totally sick and need to die off...please God!!!

Posted by Jessica on September 07, 2007, 08:32 AM | #

As a white female I found this all very interesting, especially some comments from some of the men. I think some people have to remember from a genealogical scientific stand-point that technically there is no 100% “pure blood” race. Just because someone’s parent’s are both Caucasian or Asian doesn’t mean that they do not have descendent’s who were of a different ethnicity at some point, considering that all 6.6 billion people on earth originated from a single group of a few ten thousand, or to be more recent, all the mixing that has been done over the past 500 years.
Features and skin tone are just a one-letter difference, respectively, in all the letters in a humans genetic code. Whether one finds something like nose shape or fuller lips (which many white women get collagen injections to duplicate) attractive is purely an individual aesthetic choice. Most people find attractive what they grew up around or identify with.
I personally think that the facts are out and that interracial relationships aren’t a big deal. I have a good friend who is mixed and he has an IQ of 160, models and has a lot going for him, so I don’t think any sort of mixing can be a negative thing if it can produce that.
There is a difference between ethnicity and race. A couple can mix and at the same time not forget the roots of their own families and educate their children about it. A certain race of people won’t die out because “Anne” decide to marry someone who isn’t white.
I just don’t see why people care so much about something that doesn’t really affect them.

Posted by Ann on September 27, 2007, 06:58 AM | #

No offense but after reading a lot of your blog, you just seem racist. All this talk about “white beauty” and how superior it is-- has it ever occured to you that the variation of beauty is going to be different across all races? And then there’s your comments on Indian women that I take offense.

You say and post things with a deliberate intent only to claim that you aren’t trying to be racist, but you are. What’s wrong with you? Do you really expect people whose ancestry from more humid and hot climates to have the slim nose you want? You really think you’re comparing apples to apples?

I don’t really agree with Alon Ziv but I definitely do not agree with you. The model on the book cover isn’t the most aesthetically pleasing, but neither is that trashy looking porno wannabee you chose. Here are much better examples:

http://i.realone.com/assets/rn/img/1/3/6/0/13560631-13560634-slarge.jpg

Norah Jones. Oh I’m sorry, is her nose too broad for you?

http://eur.i1.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/xp/premiere_photo/20050906/16/4250386022.jpg

Kate Bosworth. Hopefully she’s white enough for you?

And here’s a great example of an Indian woman:

http://www.wahindia.com/photo.php?p=2888&a=233&i=87

Yes, she’s Indian, sorry her nose isn’t broad for you to rip on.

You need to get over your racist @ss and just deal with the fact that people are mixing and there’s nothing you can do about it.

Posted by Ann on September 27, 2007, 07:34 AM | #

My my look at this: a pakistani woman with a “nordic nose” Will that be too much for you?

http://www.intmodel.com/2006mbuce/pop/pakistan_a.jpg

Posted by Count Sudoku on September 27, 2007, 07:34 AM | #

Dear Ann, I hope I speak for most posters when I say that yes we are a bunch of racists. “Racism” is a Marxist term used to silence into accepting their own displacement and eventual genocide through race mixing. Furthermore, to clarify things I hope most posters agree with the following sentiments…

http://tinyurl.com/33xk43

http://westernsurvival.blogspot.com/2006_06_01_archive.html

I have begun, among my white friends, to acknowledge that I am a racist. I
say, “If by racist, you mean that I think there are actual differences,
genetic differences, between racial groups that have real consequences, then
yes I am a racist. If you mean that I feel more of an affinity for people of
my ethnic group, that I feel more comfortable and at home with them, then
yes I am a racist. If you mean I put the interests of my people, my ethnic
group, ahead of the interests of others just as I put my family’s interests
over others, then yes I am a racist. But if by “racist” you mean someone who
believes in genocide or slavery or hatred or oppression of other ethnic
groups, then no, I am not a racist.”

Posted by Count Sudoku on September 27, 2007, 07:39 AM | #

As for the good looking non-white women. They are good looking to the extent that they resemble white women.

Posted by Lurker on September 27, 2007, 09:04 AM | #

Ann - in your last posts you scored some points - against your own argument! As the Count points out.

Norah Jones is a nice looking girl, she is half Indian (and of course half European) so why did you choose her? Does the fact that you had to choose a European looking girl as good looking not tell you anything? That Pakistani girl, yes shes pretty and yes she could pass as European.

So to reiterate. Youve wheeled out two girls who who are supposed to represent the attractiveness of non-whites but why is it that they look white? Or are you going to say thats just a conincidence, that their attractiveness actually resides in other features?

Posted by Lurker on September 27, 2007, 09:35 AM | #

Jessica - I think some people have to remember from a genealogical scientific stand-point that technically there is no 100% “pure blood” race.

Actually we are told to remember that all the time, but it would be helpful if you could post a link or two to the definitive research that has ‘proved’ this once and for all. For myself I find that it seems not to be geneticists or biologists etc who have ‘proved’ this but people whose speciality seems to lie more in the realm of sociology and the like. Which is odd, you wouldnt go to a sociologist for biological pronouncements on fish or frogs or apple trees would you.

This ‘proof’ often seems to rest on philosophical/semantic nitpicking eg red & blue can be mixed to make purple, therefore the existence of purple proves there is no category ‘red’ or category ‘blue’.

Lets imagine me and Ann are married.

Me: “Ann darling, while you are down at the shops can you pick me up a red T shirt and a blue one”

Ann: *Sighs, rolls eyes* “Oh thats right, typical man, how many times have I told you there is no such thing, so just how I am supposed to know which is which mister know-it-all?”

Me: *Resigned* “OK love just get me two ‘purple’ ones then.”

Posted by Tommy G on September 27, 2007, 01:16 PM | #

“Features and skin tone are just a one-letter difference, respectively, in all the letters in a humans genetic code...” --Jessica

Jessica, ethier your ignorant of the facts, or your deliberately trying to mislead. The truth is that small variants in the genetic code result in large differences in both phenotype and non-phenotype between racial groups.

From the article Genetics of Race:

“Everyone has heard the fashionable view that race is not a valid biological concept but is, instead, a suspect sociological category. The implication is that racial distinctions are a form of superstition, that there is no justification for wanting to preserve races, and that replacement of one group by another represents no genetic loss. More specifically, it implies there is no reason for whites in Europe or America to resist displacement because we are, in effect, being replaced by ourselves.

This view is wrong on its face. Races breed true, generation after generation—Danes cannot produce a Bantu, and Bantus cannot produce a Dane—and racial differences are so substantial and consistent that two-year-old children notice them. Scientists recognize the biological differences between animal subspecies—eastern lowland and mountain gorillas, for examples—that are far more physically similar to each other than are members of different human races.

Clearly, the main motive for promoting a view so contrary to common sense is “anti-racism,” but there is one biological fact on which the race-deniers build their argument: This is the oft-cited observation by Richard C. Lewontin of Harvard that there is far more genetic variation within human racial groups (about 85 percent of the total) than between them (about 15 percent). This is true, and scientists were surprised when this fact first came to light. There have since been many outrageous misinterpretations of Prof. Lewontin’s findings, with some people even claiming that because there is more genetic variation within than between human groups, whites are genetically more similar to blacks than to other whites...”

Full article:

http://www.amren.com/ar/2006/07/index.html

Posted by Fr. John on September 27, 2007, 02:08 PM | #

“Alon Ziv has to be insane...”

Well, that should have been obvious from the start.

Reading DOCTOR Kevin MacDonald’s seminal analysis of the Jews [by an impartial non-Jew], clearly shows that, Jews, as a race, ARE more insane than other races.

Perhaps it comes from all that ‘in-breeding.’

Therefore, Ziv should take the admonishment, “Physician, heal thyself” to heart.

Oh, he’s NOT going to do that?

Truely, ‘ye are of your father the devil, who is the Father of lies. And the deeds of your father, ye WILL do.” - Gospel of St. John, Chapter 8; [Christ, to the Pharisees, before they Crucified Him]

Only a race that is insane, would crucify their God.
Only a race that is insane, would deny that their God is their God.

‘Nuff said.

Posted by Tommy G on September 27, 2007, 03:39 PM | #

“Therefore, Ziv should take the admonishment, “Physician, heal thyself” to heart.

Oh, he’s NOT going to do that? “

All disciples of the “Son of Perdition” will surly reap their just rewards on Judgment Day.

Ziv still has time to change his evil ways and redeem himself.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on September 28, 2007, 12:39 AM | #

This is a good thread — I just reread it.  I was going to cite a few outstanding comments by On Holliday but his comments in this thread are all so good, and there are so many good ones by James Bowery, Svigor, and others, that one really has to sit down and just read or browse the whole thread.  It gives a glimpse of the blogging medium at its best.  If there were Pulitzer Prizes for blogs, this thread is one of a great many reasons MR.com would richly deserve one.

Posted by EWD on September 28, 2007, 05:23 AM | #

HA. If you look closely at the face of the woman in the book, the skin is almost perfect. Compare that to the skin of the white woman in a bikini posted after.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on September 28, 2007, 12:25 PM | #

Then marry her for her skin, EWD.  Don’t force us to.  We like the white woman in the bikini better — skin and all.

Posted by angel on October 03, 2007, 10:51 PM | #

May God correct your erroneous thinking. May God grant you more wisdom....more knowledge in the very near future.

If you cannot tell, Asians make up 1/5 of the world population- Chinese people to be exact. India houses more than 1billion people. They’re almost in say....a population race with China. Europe is far behind the both of those. So, what is this “majority” you speak of. Yes, if we’re going by majority rule, then the Chinese should be considered the standard of beauty and brains.

I feel sorry for you....that you could be so wrapped up in yourself to think that you’re the best that God’s made. I pity you, that you cannot embrace the richness of all that God has made. I pity you that you cannot comprehend the beauty of the age that we live in. In times gone past, the world was so disconnected it was very rare to see anyone outside of your own race or culture. But you have this great opprotunity to see....to see that you are not the best the world has to offer. I’m not even sorry for saying that… your words, soaked in hate and soaked in ugliness prove it.

May God have mercy on you for your idle words. For your hateful words. For your lack of understanding, may He have mercy! But I also pray that you’ll be informed by the spirit of Love that you are a part of the problem in this world. You’re not being a solution- you’re being part of the big, ignorant, dangerous problem.

Posted by Landulf II on October 04, 2007, 07:59 AM | #

Who let Flanders in?

Posted by Landulf II on October 04, 2007, 08:52 AM | #

> My my look at this: a pakistani woman with a “nordic nose” Will that be too much for you?

It’s useless arguing with these useful idiots, really.
They deny racial differences (even aesthetic ones), but pretend that out of the mixing of those “equals” you can get something “better”.

0 + 0 = 1

Yeah, right. Makes a lot of sense.

http://www.indianmodelagency.com/uploaded/model/260907011550.jpg

Another “nordic nose” for you.

*yawn*

Posted by biggeur on October 07, 2007, 12:49 PM | #

Only thing attractive about the blonde model is her breasts (or that you can see them). Take away those and she is no more attractive than the woman on the cover of Alon Ziv’s book. They’re different model comparisons too, The blonde woman belongs in playboy (bikini & sprayed with water), while the brown woman is more generic model.

So if the original poster is trying imply sex appeal, then he should compare his nordic princess to the likes of melyssa ford, esther baxter, nicole ricca, and the thousands of other black/mixed/latina video girls.

Anyway, I agree that there is something unique that goes on in the mixing of widely distinct races, like between negroids and caucasoids. Something more so than just the offspring being an intermediate blend all-rounder i.e. strengths of the white race and the black race combined. While the article attempts to focus on what negative incompatibilities, it ignores positive traits. Mulattoes (1/2 black 1/2 white mixes) & mulattoids (all negroid-caucasoid blends, beyond first generation), tend to be highly energetic, mentally and physically, and exhibit strong technical and creative traits. This usually occurs despite the circumstances of their parent’s social-economic background (most grow up in low-income single parent families, yet miraculously manages to attain a good education, turn the tide, and make something of their lives, in contrast to their socially disadvantaged black and white peers in the neighborhoods they grew up in).

yes, indeed a fascinating topic.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on October 07, 2007, 03:12 PM | #

Smalleur does the kindness of alerting readers already in his second sentence that he’s a nitwit, sparing them the chore of reading the entire waste of otherwise perfectly good electrons.

Posted by kathy on October 08, 2007, 12:16 AM | #

I’m white . I don’t even think the woman in the pic is all that pretty . In my opinion , you must have very low standards as to what you regard as beauty !

Posted by kathy on October 08, 2007, 12:21 AM | #

I was referring to the white woman . She’s not that good-looking and definately not “ hot “ ! She just has nice breasts ( not sagging ) . So what ? Many mixed people do , too .

Posted by Svigor on October 08, 2007, 02:11 AM | #

No offense but after reading a lot of your blog, you just seem racist.

You say that like it’s a bad thing.

What do you do with proud “racists,” who can’t be bullied with your scare-labels; make mean faces?

Posted by Svigor on October 08, 2007, 02:26 AM | #

As for my appearance/phenotype/whatever, you’ll just have to take my word for it: light skin, blue-green eyes, blond hair.

Kathy, I’m not sure about non-blacks, but blackness is inversely correlated with “nice” breasts.  I defy you to find photos of five “very” black women with “nice,” full , natural breasts. (I won’t niggle over “fullness” or “blackness,” I promise).

Posted by Svigor on October 08, 2007, 02:29 AM | #

Oh, and anyone who thinks the white woman at the top of the page isn’t much prettier than the mulatto girl is clearly a nimrod.  Makeup and lighting and photography fool a lot of nimrods.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on October 08, 2007, 02:39 AM | #

“Oh for God’s sake: insane miscegenation propaganda”

Great title, by the way!  That title is one of the best titles of any log entry I’ve seen posted at this or any site.  (And the entry itself was of course first rate.)

Posted by Landulf II on October 08, 2007, 10:18 AM | #

Did you notice the forum this “biggeur” guy is pushing ? :

http://raceandstuff.phpbb-host.com/

Disgusting.
More insane miscegenation propaganda.

Check out this counter-Mengele and his plans for Humanity:

Mulatto is overrated

[...]

The true human, with a root in every continent and corner on earth… all the shared immunities, skills, benefits… A meta race, perhaps eventually a new species—Homo excelsior

Think how with every generation the chances of being maxxed out zoid, groid, goloid, etc. would go down exponentially…

If i had the resources and a global police state, i’d be breeding some amazing specimens… generations of hybridization to create the ultimate warrior caste, with the physiques, cunning and loyal obedience taken from the best sources among every race… the most agile and exciting entertainers, story tellers… thinkers of amazing prowess… think of the possibilites. Or even carefully culling the unwanted at each line and go for a total population that shares enough of the same traits, i.e. an egalitarian system of hybrid superhumans…

Whoa, those guys can’t be for real.
Scary… and hilarious at the same time.

Posted by Count Sudoku on October 08, 2007, 10:35 AM | #

“May God correct your erroneous thinking. May God grant you more wisdom....more knowledge in the very near future.”

Right back at you.

“If you cannot tell, Asians make up 1/5 of the world population- Chinese people to be exact. India houses more than 1billion people. They’re almost in say....a population race with China. Europe is far behind the both of those. So, what is this “majority” you speak of. Yes, if we’re going by majority rule, then the Chinese should be considered the standard of beauty and brains.”

Probably the majority of people in white countries. We aren’t really concerned with what non-whites think but AFAIK they essentially agree with us. Why do you think Baywatch was so popular outside white countries? BTW, if you do some research, you’ll find that there is a market in China and India for skin lighteners and in China cosmetic eye operations to make women’s eyes more round. Now why would that be?

http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2007/09/one_of_bollywoo.php

“I feel sorry for you....that you could be so wrapped up in yourself to think that you’re the best that God’s made.” I pity you, that you cannot embrace the richness of all that God has made. I pity you that you cannot comprehend the beauty of the age that we live in. In times gone past, the world was so disconnected it was very rare to see anyone outside of your own race or culture.”

I’m beginning to pity and feel sorry for myself knowing that in one respect my ancestors had it so good over me.

“But you have this great opprotunity to see....to see that you are not the best the world has to offer. I’m not even sorry for saying that… your words, soaked in hate and soaked in ugliness prove it.”

We see plenty and we don’t like it at all.

“May God have mercy on you for your idle words. For your hateful words. For your lack of understanding, may He have mercy! But I also pray that you’ll be informed by the spirit of Love that you are a part of the problem in this world. You’re not being a solution- you’re being part of the big, ignorant, dangerous problem.”

No, you are part of the problem. A fool who has been brainwashed to celebrate the genocide of your own race. A fool who has bought the lies of a corrupted Church that deviates more from the truth and its original teachings with every passing year.

I suggest you investigate

http://spiritwaterblood.com/

So you can see how you’ve been mislead.

Posted by Imiin on October 13, 2007, 12:49 AM | #

Well the blonde has alot of make up on, and still I am very taken in by the brown girl even though I do not personally think she is beautiful… I can say the same for the blonde though.

Maybe if you picked two similar subjects with similar facial structures, this is like comparing Ernie to Bert regardless of race.

Posted by Lazy Oliphant on October 24, 2007, 11:41 PM | #

Whoever posted that picture of the bleach-blonde chick needs to know that her penciled brows, bad teeth and dumb look aren’t so attractive.

No competition with the cover girl I’d say.

lol and Angelina Jolie evidently disagrees with you about the whole thick lip thing not being attractive.

And about the allegedly heavy Black brow thing, I’ve seen similar traits in just about all races. It’s not that they have significantly thicker brows, it’s that the upper part of the nose is shallower, as is consistent with the majority of the world’s population, and that testosterone levels influence most traits associated with being male. Look it up.

Posted by VLC on October 26, 2007, 05:07 AM | #

Jessica:
“considering that all 6.6 billion people on earth originated from a single group of a few ten thousand, “

humanity reached 1 billion at the end of the 19th century, it exploded in the 20th thanks to technological progress. The current quantity of humans doesn’t imply any past race mixing, I don’t know where you got that idea. In the early days of humanity and the early days of races a lot of cousins mated with their cousins, they didn’t necessarily mated with people from different groups. The genetic problems caused by such unions were eliminated naturally. We’re all the product of a past period of inbreeding.

Jessica:
“...or to be more recent, all the mixing that has been done over the past 500 years.”

what past 500 years of mixing are you talking about? Racial segregation was the law in most white countries a hundred years ago.

Jessica:
“I have a good friend who is mixed and he has an IQ of 160, models and has a lot going for him, so I don’t think any sort of mixing can be a negative thing if it can produce that. “

those online IQ test aren’t really reliable and besides you’re committing a fallacy: the exception doesn’t invalidate the rule. Women aren’t less taller than men because I happen to know a woman who is 6’2”. Duh. And I bet you have a college degree. :rolleyes:

Jessica:
“A certain race of people won’t die out because “Anne” decide to marry someone who isn’t white.”

Remember in elementary school what you were told about putting your garbage in the garbage can? What would the world look like if nobody did it? Same reasoning applies here. What would happen if everybody behaved like “Anne” ? That’s the question “Anne” should ask herself before doing it. Individualism is a dangerous fallacy.

angel:
“...that you cannot embrace the richness of all that God has made.”

and you know, those chinese and indians don’t embrace it either. You better start learning to love Bhudda, Mao, Vishnu and that big elephant with six arms. Or, start realizing that your ‘tolerance’ and ‘love’ is a self-destructive one-way street.

bigger:
“Mulattoes (1/2 black 1/2 white mixes) & mulattoids (all negroid-caucasoid blends, beyond first generation), tend to be highly energetic, mentally and physically, and exhibit strong technical and creative traits.”

straight out of Ziv’s book?

I recall reading a thread on MR about all the mental problems of mixed race children. Either here or on Amren.com

Posted by Fred Scrooby on October 26, 2007, 12:35 PM | #

“Mulattoes (1/2 black 1/2 white mixes) & mulattoids (all negroid-caucasoid blends, beyond first generation), tend to be highly energetic, mentally and physically, and exhibit strong technical and creative traits.” (—quoted in VLC’s comment, above)

Just goes to show how generous and self-sacrificing the Jews are, that they’re not snapping all the mulattoids up for Israel and making that country’s population a super race.  No, they’re leaving all the ‘ttoids for other countries, altruistically passing up the chance to vastly improve themselves so that others may have that same chance.  What unselfish people the Israelis are!  Always thinking first and foremost of the other guy!

Posted by jaimee on October 30, 2007, 10:43 AM | #

In response to the blog at the top.

majority rights?
what does this website mean?  If you say majority do you mean the mix of cultures and identies that makes up the “majority” and if you are thinking along the lines of some archaic ideas of pureness...do you mean nationally or ethnically or culturally.

Do I get these rights?

I’m way hotter than that blond chic and I’m chinese and french.  Besides some of the most beautiful women in the world like supermodel Gisele Bunchen from Brazil are mixed.  The girl in that picture don’t make as much money as a supermodel for as white as she is she doesn’t appear tall or gorgeous just typically white.  Most beautiful women have more qualities than the a skinny tall bridged nose that make them gorgeous though I dought the writer behind this site has seen beautiful women in the flesh… pictures of girls on the internet doesn’t count..... 

Brazil and Canada are hot spots for model companies to go “searching” for the feminin ideal because there is so much mixture. Mixture of all those minorities into something not white! Go hang out in Brazil and see if any beauitful woman will sleep with you and your racist ideas and bogus statistics. I don’t know if this website was a backlash to politically correctness, something I hate too, but it’s not very good i don’t get the point, it seems offensive to women and not white people and white people.  and I think it’s governed by someone or some people who are really afriad of losing some pride they never earned based not on who they are as individuals but on how they or he can dramatize racism issues that are not coherent with.....THE MAJORITY of society!!!!

Posted by Rose on November 03, 2007, 06:02 PM | #

Biased picture!!! Looser! Of course a model in a bikini looks perfect!

Here is a Latin in a bikini .. and here boobs are real!

She is mixed btw

wait theres more lets compare

Posted by Megan on November 06, 2007, 08:24 AM | #

Uh oh guys! Your “white beauty” has no nipples! Now this CAN’T be good for evolution!

Posted by Gabrils protege on November 07, 2007, 06:40 AM | #

I am posting this to address the person who came here claiming to be the author of this book and more specifically something he stated.

[Quote Alon Ziv] - Many here have been quick to call me a hypocrite, but I encourage intermarriage among all groups. [Quote]

To put it simply Alon, you and everyone else who espouse miscegenation are racists of the worst kind, as although you and others like you, coax both yourselves and others into believing what you aspire toward is somehow righteous and noble so to speak, the reality is that you hold contempt for difference, and encourage hatred of diversity by striving toward destroying it, I have read a few parts of your book but really (and lets be blatantly honest here) it is nothing other than social marxist propaganda, and not really worth reading.

In any case though Alon, your hatred for human biodiversity and the fact that you aspire toward destroying it makes you the worst kind of racist, worse than any neo Nazi, black power activist or KKK member ect ect, none can match your hatred for difference, you and your ideals represent the epitome of racism, and this cannot be refuted, regardless of how convincing your charade of anti racist is, you and those like you are the enemy of all races and cultures, the enemy of the world.

Posted by Carmella on November 07, 2007, 08:52 AM | #

I must say, i thought i was stumbling upon the summary of a good book when this assinine partially neo-natzi bullshit showed up. To basically break down the pages of steaming crap worth of useless statistics, and your extremily bias views of whats beautiful and whats not( that i couldnt hold a straight face to finish)...there was hard to find anything of actual truth(just your angry, frustrated rantings...im sorry your angry that mixed races are better then you in just about everything. Exept spouting bullshit; you cut the cake). Just to let you know, Your not God, your opinion doesnt matter anymore than anyone elses. So stop waisting your breath on insisting that Nordic women are more attractive then any mixed woman...actually, go ahead..im sure thousands of men are kicking back laughing their asses off at you. Go ahead, settledown with your boring, bonethin, pencil nosed, flat assed , purely white breed sorry excuse for a woman, Atleast your happy. wean out the ugly ones for the good men! you have a purpose in life. I also pray that one day that your unfathomable poor eye sight will be corrected in future technology if possible. The least you could have done to boost your statement would be to actually find GOOD looking pictures of white women when comparing them to amazing beautiful mixed...didnt help you much. I also loved how you showed some of the ugliest pictures of other races, but failed to show what White trash lookes like...there is such a thing as an ugly white person. You are trying to correct fallicous statements but you are only creating more...adhominems and circular reasoning. Hope you get even 20% of men to agree with you on this...good luck. I am danish norweigen and african american and a model at that! i have dated nothing but WHITE men! American and european.

I really do hope one day you realize that there are beauty’s from every part of the world. Whether they be milk white, tan, or black...and that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I pitty you, i really do…

Posted by Tommy G on November 07, 2007, 11:40 AM | #

“Go ahead, settledown with your boring, bonethin, pencil nosed, flat assed , purely white breed sorry excuse for a woman”—Carmella

Yeah yeah yeah!!! Go ahead, Carmella, try to make yourself feel better by denigrating white women; but the fact is, 90% of negroe men would gladly crawl a mile on broken glass right past a bunch of fat assed, bootlip, ‘black beauties’ in order to get to one of those “sorry excuses for a women” you speak of. Why do you think that’s so, Car[mula]?

Posted by sinead barnes on November 25, 2007, 10:16 PM | #

Okay… I’m mixed raced, I have about 6 different races in my blood that i know of… I’m also a 19 year old student so am a little too busy to write an essay like the rest of the people on this… But i just wanted to say comparing the busty fake so called ‘white blooded girl’ who was caked in make up, with drawn on eye-brows and fake dyed blond hair and fake boobs and no clouthes on, fake tanned and probobly wearing contact lenses, is not a fair comparison to the natural average looking book cover girl.  Who ever wrote that she can’t be improved is missing the point that the book cover girl didnt need lip implants fake hair boobs and eye brows. Not to be vain but i have an average intellegence and am far better looking than the blond. That doesnt meen all mix raced people are and it doesn’t meen i’m smarter or better looking than all white blooded women. This whole thing is frankly an idiotic debate and a little raced.

Posted by ip on December 19, 2007, 12:40 AM | #

The blond is not attractive, neither is the mongrel. They’re equally disgusting, but one uses makeup to make it look better.

Posted by Tommy on December 19, 2007, 01:46 AM | #

The blond is not attractive, neither is the mongrel. They’re equally disgusting, but one uses makeup to make it look better.

Posted by ip on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 at 12:40 AM | #

Let me guess..... You’re a faggot, right?

Posted by AppleB on December 24, 2007, 12:48 AM | #

You can’t be serious. There are perfectly mixed people who also appear white as snow. Saying that mixed people look better or worse says nothing, since mixed people can look like anything. This girl is 1/4 negro, her mother is mulatto her brother is 1/4 white…

Posted by Fred Scrooby on December 24, 2007, 01:57 AM | #

“This girl is 1/4 negro”

That’s interesting if true, AppleB.  I’d need evidence before I’d believe it though.

Posted by potpourri on December 25, 2007, 12:24 AM | #

Consider mixed race people, such as Heather Locklear and Carly Simon are born exhibiting the phenotype of the woman above, I’d say that the mixed race woman is definitely a match of a full blooded Nordic woman.

Heather Locklear is part African Slave, Lumbee Indian and European.

Carly Simon is part Afro-Cuban, Jewish and some other things.

There are mixed race woman throughout the Americas who look like the woman above.

Posted by potpourri on December 25, 2007, 12:50 AM | #

This woman has a black mother and white father

Adrianna Lima of African, Native American and Caucasian extraction

Miley Cyrus is part Native American

Toris Amos is part Cherokee

Cher is part Cherokee

Jade Goody is 1/3 Black, these are her kids

Carol Channing is part African-American

Ana Beatriz Barros is a Brazilian model of mixed race

Posted by Fred Scrooby on December 25, 2007, 03:46 AM | #

I consider AppleB’s and Potpourri’s comments to be roughly ninety-five percent bullshit.  Stop spamming the site.

Posted by Nat on January 09, 2008, 04:02 AM | #

Just came across this thread. Got a bit bored by the end its so long. Doing an essay about represenations of race and doing some pointless google search.
Anyway that comparisant of the two girls is silly as beauty is a matter of opinion. People may typically say that the blonde girl is better looking because of the way the photo is shoot and portrayed. The girl on the book cover is not made up to look like some porno star… thats just my opinion. Pic another picture of a ‘mixed ‘ race girl.

To me the claim that ‘mixing’ of races makes more healhy people etc.. makes sense because in genes the further away the better right? ( I am no scientist but shagging your sibling course muttation?) is that not very simple. I mean you may produce some evidence to suggest this isnt true but opposites and difference attract.

The tone of this website seems really ignorant.  Because to me race terminology is bull sh*t .  Its all about culture and origin, I am not denying the differences but as you will know if everyone traces back their own family tree they will discover a mix of different countries, ethnicities, from when the people move around etc… so this whole superiority and fear of ‘mixing’ wtf?  we are all the result of mixing. one race. the human race. different cultures. so different ideas and opinion. different power structures. but not different races.
sad- why be worried about losing the look of one ‘race’ when they will come back eventually? didnt people develop blonde hair to look different- survival of the fittest- evolution- genetics . A black and white couple have twins one comes out black and one comes white?
if your really worried go to a island somewhere and imbred until your all albeno.
red eyes- very attractive but at least you’ll have blonde hair?

if im going of the mark tell me lol

Posted by Nat on January 09, 2008, 04:20 AM | #

Didnt see those other peoples responses who agree with me. Well done! I mean you habe your preferences but seriously this website is full of people who feel like they are losing their precious ‘white’ race. thats frankly hilarious. why don’t you go back in time and stop all the different conquerers from moving around the world and mixing and raping with each other.
god im so tired my spelling is fucked.
Its one thing to not agree strict pc-ness when political correctness loses common sense, but another to use it in your backward retarded way to adovate this stupidness. I hope you fall in love with a half blakc and half white - mulatto type and then find out shes/he what she/he is. then you can have lots of little MOGREL children. I can’t even believe you use that word. I hope your mother fucked one and made you. wait arn’t we all mongrels? wow its complicated I cant blame you for becoming so ignorant lol
opps did I use a swear word?

Posted by Landon on January 09, 2008, 12:45 PM | #

Dude. Mules are a f1 class hybrid.  thats like mating a human with a closely related neanderthal.  You cant use a mule as an example of the negative affects of interacial breeding.  If you DID happen to talk to a breeder (namely a dog breeder) you would find out that hybrid dogs actually do live longer and have less health problems (consistantly)… I have one friend that breads pitts and another that breads ridgebacks.  Also, this idea that hybid humans have wider noses is retarded.  They dont all do.  And from my experience (i run a couple clubs in hollywood, california) the mixed race males and females attract more attention on average than do pure bred caucasion… in fact a moderately attractive mixed female will get the same attention as an extremely attractive female…

Its simple biology… deeper gene pool = a more healthy person.  There is nothing that can disprove that.  We are all the same species but have lived in different geographies and have our own specific immunities and physical advantages(and disadvantages).  Not to say that total mixture of races is a good thing… A fully intergrated mixture of races on a global level would essentially create ONE race.  Which makes the gene pool very shallow… which means one epademic could wipe out the entire race. 

Remember, the goal of nature is to create the longest living and durable creature… not the one with biggest eyes, smallest nose or highest jump vertical (unless those traits will help with every day survival).  So judging whether a race is of a higher quality based on societal standards is silly.

Over all it doesnt matter.  You all have an obvious lack of experience with cultural diversity and Have not studied science to a level of objectivity… you quote and read facts that suite your puroposes… I’m a graduated physical chemist in case youre wondering....  Over all in three generatinos it wont matter cause most of the people in this world will be of mixed decent and will be healthier for it.  However, there will more than likele be a plague of somesort that will kill off a third to half the population in the next 200 years (statistically speaking that is)

Oh, and if you go back and read the case study you talked about with hybrids having psychological and/or nerve related problems, you’ll most likely find that the study was done on a very specific type of hybrid and that the scope of the study is not one that can be used on a ‘general’ view of ineratial breeding…

Posted by Landon on January 09, 2008, 01:03 PM | #

Oh yeah BTW… Im of mixed decent (hawaiian, chinese and half scottish) and I absolutley LOVE blonde white blue eyed girls.  but its because i was raised around extremely attractive mixed race girls and my mother is white (Freudian thingy) It doesnt change the fact that I would have much healther and fit children with a half black girl.  Its hard to look at the world through others eyes. but if you cant do it then you shouldnt really open your mouth… but it is a free internet so alas we shall have to search through your arguments for the ever expanding ignorant points you shall make.

Tommy whoever up there… your gross use of racist language to describe colored women is proof that whatever comes out of your mouth is not worth listenig too.

Posted by Landon on January 09, 2008, 01:17 PM | #

jesus, read Count Sudoku’s entry up top… He actually gives references to help the “misled” after he states that he believes he knows the ‘original teachings’ of ‘THE’ church.....  Wow!  Is there such a thing as an oximoronic statement?… or maybe just moronic.  Even the Pope doesnt know what the “original” teachings were.  Constantine destroyed 80% of the “original teachings” to create Catholocism… AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrGGGGGGGGggg....  I SEE STUPID PEOPLE.....................

Posted by Nat on January 09, 2008, 05:24 PM | #

Jessica:
“...or to be more recent, all the mixing that has been done over the past 500 years.”

what past 500 years of mixing are you talking about? Racial segregation was the law in most white countries a hundred years ago. - Now whose being a dumb ass?
did the racial segregation laws stop ‘racia’l mixing, I don’t think so? thats a very ignorant comment. Jessicas comment may be little ignorant too, but !??

After replying in a tired state last night and thinking about this subject more, I think that it is important for humans to label themselves, as definition is part of identity. Unfortunately the negativity that comes with over plays...I seriously think that being worried about losing your precious white race is a losing battle. Sorry. but since the Europeans in the recent conquering history started this whole thing off by creating their ‘empires’ and ‘imperalism’ what we have now is the aftermarth.
Karma? just like fallen civilisations before it.
History repeats it’self- and if there are no more ‘white’ people left in 200 years say for example, then I think they will reapear again in the next 500 years say?
Evolution-survival of the fittest? enviroment? is it any consequence that ‘white’ people come from north europe? a cold place? and darker poeple generally come from hotter countries? sun burn lack of sun? etc....
It’s your CULTURE more than anything that your worried about I think...make sure that your children know your culture then you wont bee so worried? hum.....
Majority rights? what happend to the rights for everyone.
plus whats with the jew hating?

Posted by S. B. on January 20, 2008, 08:00 PM | #

I love my mixed race baby - but why does she feel so alien?’
by LOWRI TURNER - More by this author »

Lowri Turner: Emotional turmoil over the colour of her child’s skin
“She’s getting very dark, isn’t she?” This is what one of my friends recently said about my much adored - 12-week-old daughter.

She didn’t mean to be rude. But it was a comment that struck me with the force of a jab to the stomach.

Immediately, I was overwhelmed by a confusion of emotions. I felt protective, insulted, worried, ashamed, guilty, all at once. The reason? My lovely, wriggly, smiley baby is mixed race.

Now, I think of myself as pretty ‘right on’. My home is on the border of the London Republic of Hackney. I’ve been to the Notting Hill Carnival, even if I found the music a bit loud. Yet now I realise what a ‘white’ world I inhabit.

I am white and I have two sons from my first marriage who are both milky complexioned and golden haired. My twin sister, who I spend a lot of time with, has a Danish partner. As a consequence, she has two boys who are also pale skinned and flaxen haired.

Into this positively Scandinavian next generation, I have now injected a tiny, dark-skinned, dark-haired girl. To say she stands out is an understatement.

My colouring and that of my children has never really been an issue before. However, three years ago I met the man who became my second husband and who is the father of my daughter.

Although born in the UK, his parents came from India in the Sixties. This makes him British-Asian and our daughter mixed race.

There is another more PC term for the plump little bundle I strap to my front. She is ‘dual heritage’. It’s a bit trendy, but I quite like it. It implies a pride in coming from two cultures, rather than the less attractive connotations of ‘mixed race’.

The usual time something is labelled ‘mixed’ is when it’s a packet of nuts and they’ve bulked out the luxury cashews with cheaper peanuts. I’m not sure I want my daughter to be regarded as an adulterated version of some pure original. Still, it is the most accepted description.

The truth is, whatever the label, the fact there is a label proves that my daughter’s conflicting parentage matters.

At the more frothy end of the scale, mixed-race children are regarded as pretty dolls — white kids with a nice tan.

When I was pregnant and people asked me about the child I was having, and I explained her father was Indian, they would often coo something along the lines of: “Ooh, she’s going to be beautiful!” as if I was discussing a new rose, made from an exotic cross-breeding programme.

On a less benevolent level, mixed-race children can receive a hostile welcome from both white and black communities. Being neither one thing nor another may get you on the cover of Vogue, but it isn’t an easy way to make friends.

But this is 2007, surely things are more enlightened than that? I hope so, but I fear not.

One reason for my fear is my own mixed reactions to my daughter. Don’t get me wrong, I love her. She is the child I didn’t think I’d have after my first marriage broke up. She is the only granddaughter in our family and we all dote on her.

But when I turn to the mirror in my bedroom to admire us together, I am shocked. She seems so alien. With her long, dark eyelashes and shiny, dark brown hair, she doesn’t look anything like me.

I know that concentrating on how my daughter looks is shallow. She is a person in her own right, not an accessory to me. But still, I can’t shake off the feeling of unease.

I didn’t realise how much her looking different would matter and, on a rational level, I know it shouldn’t. But it does.

Evolution demands that we have children to pass on our genes, hence the sense of pride and validation we get when we see our features reappearing in the next generation.

With my daughter, I don’t have that. Do black fathers who marry white women and then have paler-skinned children feel my sense of loss? Or maybe Chinese mothers or Middle-Eastern grandparents grieve when they see a child they know to be their own, but whose features don’t reflect that?

I worry that, as my daughter doesn’t look like me, people will assume she is adopted. After all, it’s all the rage in showbiz circles.

Madonna famously scooped up a black child when she wanted to be a mother again and Angelina Jolie appears to be assembling a ‘pick ‘n’ mix’ of kids from different countries. It’s all very United Colours of Benetton, isn’t it?

In the real world, I fear for my daughter’s sense of self. She has a tiny foot in two cultures. How will she negotiate a path between the two? I worry that my sons will feel less of a kinship with their sister because she is different, although there is no sign of that.

As for myself, there is an inescapable status issue to address. White women who have non-white children are stigmatised as ‘Tracy Towerblocks’ living on benefits, most of which they spend on lager and fags.

Even if I don’t fit this profile, my daughter’s difference definitely points out the fact that my children come from two different fathers.

If I wanted to pass us off as a nice, neat nuclear family, she would blow my cover at once.

But it is more than that. I am frightened, frightened of others’ reactions to her, as well as my own. I didn’t think of myself as racist and yet my daughter has shown me a side of myself about which I feel deeply uncomfortable.

Even admitting to having mixed feelings about her not being blonde and blue eyed, I feel disloyal and incredibly guilty.

I know the obvious comment is that I must have known how a child of our union would look when I married an Indian man, but it is a wise woman who thinks that far ahead when she falls in love.

I didn’t think about any of this before I got pregnant. I wanted to have a baby. Her colour and culture were immaterial then.

But self-flagellation is not useful. I have more pressing concerns. I am now the mother of a ‘black’ child, even if she is more the hue of weak tea than espresso.

This is a role for which I am utterly unprepared. Part of me thinks I should be playing sitar music to her in her cot, mastering pakoras and serving them dressed in a sari, but that would be fantastically fake coming from me.

When she was born, pale but with lots of dark hair, I asked the midwife if her eyes would stay blue. ‘Asian genes are very strong,’ she said in what I took to be an ominous tone.

No more Brady Bunch kids for me. The midwife has been proved right and every day my baby’s eyes get a little darker.

Even so, when she looks up at me as I feed her, my heart melts. My love may not be colour blind, but hers is, and that is truly humbling.

Picture of Ms. Turner:

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/07_01/lowriturnerDM_228x705.jpg

Sad, isn’t it?

S.B.

Posted by S.B. on January 21, 2008, 12:53 AM | #

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/07_01/lowrnicolDM0607_228x593.jpg

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/showbiz/showbiznews.html?in_article_id=466662&in_page_id=1773

Posted by Count Sudoku on January 21, 2008, 02:33 AM | #

“jesus, read Count Sudoku’s entry up top… He actually gives references to help the “misled” after he states that he believes he knows the ‘original teachings’ of ‘THE’ church..... “

Let’s talk about what the Church taught less than 100 years ago. It was against race mixing.

http://spiritwaterblood.com/index.php/blog/comments/C17/

Is Interracial Marriage Scriptural?

05 Apr 2007 0 Comments

In order for neo-Babelists to make their lies plausible, they scour the Bible for examples of interracial marriage. The examples typically offered are Rahab, Tamar, Asenath, the “Ethiopian” wife of Moses, Ruth, the Shulamite woman, and Naamah. Most of their proofs fall flat, but the Bible certainly does record cases in which the Shemite, Japhethite, and Hamite lines cross. The Bible also records instances of adultery, murder, and theft, but an instance does not justify a principle. I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve heard that Moses married a black woman, therefore interracial marriage is acceptable. Moses was a man, and he sinned, and his sins kept him from entering the Promised Land. We must ask what God requires of us. But first, let us consider the examples presented to us.

According to Genesis 6:9, Noah was “perfect” in his generations. This is not a reference to his moral fortitude but to his heredity and ancestry. The Hebrew word toledoth ("generations") is defined as family history, and the word tamim ("perfect") means without blemish, just as a sacrificially pure animal is described as being without blemish. Noah was unique at a time when the lines of Seth and Cain were engaged in miscegenation that led to the destruction of the world.

The post-Flood chosen line diversified very slowly. Abraham married his half-sister. Abraham’s brother Nahor married his niece, and these were the grandparents of Rebekah. Isaac was specifically forbidden from marrying a Canaanite and was paired instead with Rebekah, his cousin. Abraham commanded his chief slave, “I want you to swear by the LORD, the God of heaven and the God of earth, that you will not get a wife for my son from the daughters of the Canaanites, among whom I am living, but will go to my country and my own relatives and get a wife for my son Isaac” (Gen. 24:2-4). This was centuries before the law of Moses was given, and Abraham did not mention a word about theological belief or godly fidelity (his relatives were pagans), but exclusively limited the search to kith and kin. His daughter-in-law would be chosen from no other people. From Isaac and Rebekah came Esau and Jacob. Faithless Esau loved the Canaanite women, but Jacob married his cousins. In Hebrews 12:16, Esau is called a fornicator, and the conventional understanding is that his disobedience lay in wedding himself to unbelievers. But in Romans 9:13, Paul writes that God hated Esau from the womb. The problem was not that an unbeliever married unbelievers but that Esau was a miscegenist.

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“Wow!  Is there such a thing as an oximoronic statement?… or maybe just moronic.  Even the Pope doesnt know what the “original” teachings were.  Constantine destroyed 80% of the “original teachings” to create Catholocism… “

See above.

“AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrGGGGGGGGggg....  I SEE STUPID PEOPLE.....................”

Welcome to my World.

BTW. since you are so certain that being a mongrel is beneficial, please make sure you only mate with other mongrels or at least other non-whites.

Posted by Count Sudoku on January 21, 2008, 02:37 AM | #

And as for Rose’s and Potpourri’s pictures of attractive supposedly mixed women, as I have said before in such circumstances, they are attractive because they could pass for white.

Posted by Robben Salter on January 25, 2008, 04:39 AM | #

Here’s the deal…

Sexual selection states that ‘attraction happens on a individual basis’
Meaning, I might find a person attractive, while you might find them unattractive.

You will find ugly, and beautiful within every gene pool, and you will find ugly and attractive in individuals that share two distinct gene pools.

The idea that all mixed people are beautiful is clearly false, just as the idea that a person of singular gene pool is always sexy would clearly also be false.

Sometimes the ‘right’ combination of genes combines, creating truly stunning results.

If you’re devoted to a single gene pool (you share a cultural meme of racism) you may not be able to clearly see how beautiful a person is outside that cultural meme.

you can learn more about that through a study of memetics.

By the way, comparing the HALF naked white women, to the fully clothed mixed women was not a far use of the contrast principle.

Not only do I find various gene pools attractive, I also find various body types attractive.

I find plumped women, skinny women, hour glass women, all attractive.
it’s really about opening up your mind to see the beauty in everything.

If we we’re all blonde, blue eyed people, everyone would like identical.
what’s the fun in that?

Posted by Robben Salter on January 25, 2008, 04:42 AM | #

My last post had a lot of typos, my bad.

Posted by Guessedworker on January 25, 2008, 07:29 AM | #

Robben: If you’re devoted to a single gene pool (you share a cultural meme of racism) you may not be able to clearly see how beautiful a person is outside that cultural meme.  you can learn more about that through a study of memetics.

1. Congratulations on the correct, essentialist usage of the word “racism”.  I don’t think you meant to escape from the dishonest Jewish-nationalist emphasis that pervades its usage today, but strictly-speaking you just did, until ...

2. You mentioned “cultural meme”.  It is, of course, genetics - and specifically group adaptiveness - which drives the appreciation of beauty.  There are at least three genetic modus operandii in this:-

a) the identification in a prospective mate of group-specific adaptive traits,

b) the application of averages for the group’s physical phenotype as a corrective against maladaptive excess in any given feature,

c) the identification of certain, usually non-visual features which indicate the prospective mate’s possession of different or enhanced desease immunities, so as to maximise the health of offspring.

The cultural superstructiure that is built on top of adaptive preferences is not without meaning.  Images impress the suggestible, and we are all suggestible to some degree.  But the foundations for the appreciation of beauty in the opposite sex really are genetic, and the J-N version of racism has absolutely no bearing on that.

Posted by Svigor on January 26, 2008, 05:10 PM | #

If we we’re all blonde, blue eyed people, everyone would like identical.
what’s the fun in that?

If we were all black-haired, brown-eyed, brown-skinned people, everyone would look the same.  Where’s the fun in that?

That’s what Ziv is about: a world with two kinds of people; Jews, and black-haired, brown-eyed, brown-skinned everypeople.  McWorld.

No thanks.  Only those who love their own more than the other will survive.  The rest will be boring, same, coffee-colored everymen.

And no, you blithering idiots, “the widest gene pool possible” isn’t ipso facto good.  Read the post and the comments you halfwits.