Posted by Leon Haller on Mon, 05 Sep 2011 03:32 | #

Apologies to all for this question unrelated to the above post.

For Yahoo mail users, does anyone know how to get out of the new Yahoo mail visual format, and go back to the yahoo format of the past however many years?

I really hate the new, dark color format. They changed my Leon Haller yahoo mail account (the one I use for internet stuff like MR) against my wishes, and starting up a new account I wasn’t even given the option of having the “classic” look.

Posted by Lurker on Mon, 05 Sep 2011 05:12 | #

I was given the classic option but thats on an existing adddress. Sorry, can’t throw any light on what happens with a new address, not without initiating one to find out.

Posted by Bill on Tue, 06 Sep 2011 18:52 | #

What I want to know is why the Telegraph censor cannot bear to allow readers access to thoughts such as this:

And were most rioters white?  Or is it just a media picture editor thing to ignore the African angle?

... which has been lifted from this thread five times.

Why?  What on earth is the problem?

We know what the problem is, the cancer of political correctness (non judgemental, non discriminatory, victim-hood, yada yada) has wormed its way into the psyche of British society at the highest echelon.

This article written by Clarke for the Guardian also finds its way into the Telegraph which must tell us something.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danielknowles/100103303/ken-clarke-says-that-most-rioters-were-known-criminals-is-he-right/

Dalrymple knows a thing or to about feral youth as guests of Her Majesty, perhaps Clarke should have a word with him.

It’s monstrous the way media substitute white images for negative non white behaviour.  It makes my blood boil.

This practice is bog standard deception on our TV’s and yet our people still don’t see it.  It must be something in the water. 

You must hand it to these people, it must be quite a challenge to talk about crime and the criminal justice system without mentioning or highlighting liberal lunacy, but the can and they do.

It’s the same with the acute housing shortage being discussed without making reference to mass immigration.  Yet again, they can and they do.

As I have said before, (sigh) Liberalism is producing an ungovernable violently dysfunctional Britain.

Earlier this morning I compiled a lengthy comment here on this self same article, but winged it away to the recycle bin (as I do most) with the thought - what’s the bloody point?

Seeing your comment prompted me to say summon the effort again.

Posted by Croydon on Tue, 06 Sep 2011 20:31 | #

Because Bill the racial angle can have powerful real world repercussions. Mix the threat with a racial angle and you speak to white people at the deepest level.

The data on the rioters has been collected on a range of variables but in one key one area it has not been collected - ethnicity or race

On another thread yesterday I mentioned a recent study (seen on Twitter - great for research and rabble rousing - any of you use it?) see here———

Posted by Croydon on September 05, 2011, 06:23 PM | # 

Post-riot study: The impact of the riots: people feel more threatened and prejudiced

“This has had important consequences. Although people did not associate the riots with specific minority groups (whether Muslim/Black/East European communities), they were more prejudiced in their aftermath. Those who felt afterwards that their security was under greater threat were more likely to express hostile attitudes toward Muslims. Meanwhile, those who felt afterwards that wider British society and culture were under greater threat were more likely to express hostility toward Muslims and also Black and East European communities…....any similar event in the future that disrupts society and makes citizens feel more threatened is likely to have highly significant and negative effects on how they perceive minority groups.”

* The study was led by Dr Mark Pickup and Dr Matthew Goodwin from the School of Politics and International Relations at the University of Nottingham, and Dr Eline de Rooij from Nuffield College at the University of Oxford. It was funded by the Integrating Global Society group at the University of Nottingham, with generous logistical assistance from YouGov-Cambridge.

Posted by Bill on Tue, 06 Sep 2011 21:55 | #

Thanks. Interesting read.

http://nottspolitics.org/2011/09/05/the-impact-of-the-riots-people-feel-more-threatened-and-prejudiced/

Rather, following the riots people felt more threatened in specifically two ways. First, people were more likely to feel that their safety was threatened, i.e. they were more fearful of increasing violence and vandalism in their neighbourhood. Second, they were more likely to feel that wider British culture and society was under threat, i.e. they were more fearful that British culture is threatened. Feelings of security threat increased by 10% and feelings of cultural threat increased by 5%. These were ‘statistically significant’ effects. In short, citizens were more likely after the riots to feel that their security and wider society was under threat.

This has had important consequences. Although people did not associate the riots with specific minority groups (whether Muslim/Black/East European communities), they were more prejudiced in their aftermath.

As you can see from my 5.52 PM above the thrust of my comment was the effects on our society of political correctness.

bold (My emphasis) Indicates clearly that peoples fear are 1. Personal/family/neighborhood (no surprise there)  2. Fear that wider British culture and society was under threat.

Answers 1 & 2 more than suggest to me, that British people (most I would say) do recognise perfectly well who is trashing their nation and who they should and do fear the most.

I would like to know how these questions are asked?  I am most suspicious of such polls as British people have been cowed into giving the ‘right’ answers, IOW’s, they’re literally frightened to give strangers their honest opinion.  Which only goes to show another example of how corrosive political correctness can distort what should be normal discourse.

Failure to name the elephant gives the pollster a false reading, the wrong answer in the wrong order as can be seen.  Academia is the seat (no pun intended) of PC and would not recognise the significance of this conversation if it bit them on the backside - and so this evil charade goes on.

Whilst on the subject of polling, have you ever considered the pollsters could be owned by the media?  Just think of the ‘I agree with Nick’ coalition we have now, makes you think - dunnit?