REAL NATIONALISM

REAL NATIONALISM

by Constantin von Hoffmeister

Part I

The human race is a construct. It is not real. Human population groups are too diverse to have any one destiny in common. The white race is a construct. It is not real. White peoples are too diverse to have any one destiny in common. Nations are the soil-based embodiments of ethnically homogeneous peoples. White nationalism is a globalization ideology and thus not real nationalism at all. Fascism and National Socialism were both imperialist ideologies. Real nationalism is the enemy of imperialism and globalization. Real nationalism is separatist and democratic. Real nationalism wants to break up large artificial structures (such as empires) and reestablish natural ethnic entities (such as nations).

Part II

The Inuit in Greenland do not need aid from the European Union. They do not need Danish overlords and colonizers. The Inuit in Greenland want to be free. Their poverty stems from alien management practices imposed on their traditional way of life. Their indigenous culture had sustained them for thousands of years until the artery of their social organism was clogged by Danish cupcakes and maidens with braided golden hair dancing on flying horses with swords and shields in their hands: HOORAY - Here come the Valkyries! Doom to let Dr. Doom in… He might shake his metal-gloved fist and rage and swear and holler. But all to no avail, the mud is here to stay, everybody will have to drag his weary feet through it. Dr. Doom in his Slavic country (Latveria) will think twice if invading and destroying will give him the bliss he so eagerly seeks. Meanwhile, the Inuit are demonstrating against another Danish dam project.

Part III

The race that preceded the race is the race. King David had red hair. He was not a witch. A witch is a witch is a witch. We must watch out or the shoppers will get us before the consumers get us. To consume is to free oneself of the shadow of the past.

On the plane from Berlin to Moscow: Call of the Blood. Folkism versus Nationalism. Folkism = real nationalism. How many are gone? How many roads are broken? Who is chosen? Who can find the gods again? The state is the machine that killed the gods. The folk is the revolutionary subject. Raising the folk consciousness consciously undermines the system the state put into place to subjugate the folk. The Junkers and the lords and the plantation owners are all interested in propagating state nationalism (patriotism) as the salvation to the yearning in the folk’s collective unconscious. But myths are stronger than the elite with money and lust for power and greed for money. Myths speak the truth of the blood. The folk carries the blood in its veins as it toils under the sun of the day that never endeth. The folk’s sweat mingled with its blood produces the aroma of life itself. This is why the leech elite will always try to suck the blood of the folk. Like vampires, the elite needs the blood of the folk to survive and continue the feudal exploitation of those they need to survive. When the folk wakes up to this state of affairs, it will not only protect itself with garlic against vampire attacks but also band together with wooden stakes to finally exterminate the elitist plague off the face of the earth. Patriotism is a demonic concoction straight out of the NECRONOMICON. Folkism is the divine order as different faces of different folks truly represent God’s different ideas. God is the gods. Polytheism does not apply.

A womanizer and a priest on a bench in Central Park. The womanizer knows that his days are numbered as his productive years have already passed him by. The priest had once sheltered a South African dictator, but now realizes that this was a mistake since the South African dictator had killed the priest’s family before the South African dictator went into politics back in his own country. Back in Ecuador, drugs were still freely available in the dirty slums of Quito. Coke for a buck. High for a dime. Hanging in there. Both the womanizer and the priest are feeding on the regret that their disconnectedness from their folk produces. O, how to get back into the bosom the cycle?

Black boots on the pavement signal the coming of the Man With No Morals. He will set things right as he has no moral objection to things others might find distasteful. The Man With No Morals commits genocide for breakfast and burns down cities in order to build new ones. In the afternoon, the Man with No Morals orders the execution of all those who opposed the folk’s right of existence in the past when the world was ruled by Bad Media and the leech elite. The Man With No Morals will do so without batting an eyelid. In the evening, the Man With No Morals might go boozing and hook up with some cool chicks. If he wakes up in the collective mind of the folk, the Man With No Morals has achieved the unity in freedom (sacred and profane!). The Man With No Morals also kills for thrills.

This is how coffee is cooked: buy and put it in machine, then switch on machine. Once gods came out of machines, now machines ARE gods.

Posted by Constantin von Hoffmeister on Thursday, June 25, 2009 at 11:32 AM in
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Posted by The Monitor on June 25, 2009, 07:27 PM | #

Wow, What gibberish.

Posted by Frank on June 25, 2009, 09:52 PM | #

You’re gonna get sent to Guantanamo with posts like this - won’t win anyone over with it either.

Nationalism allows for a happy, enjoyable life where members of a community are valued and have a place to belong. It’s the cold, managerial machine that “commits genocide for breakfast and burns down cities in order to build new ones”.

Posted by Wheeler MacPherson on June 25, 2009, 11:30 PM | #

Incredible.

And I mean that in the worst way possible.

Posted by k on June 26, 2009, 12:10 AM | #

The first three sentences make perfect sense, but after that…

Posted by man in black boots scuffing the floor on June 26, 2009, 12:19 AM | #

Not that CvH’s stuff needs anything to augment its comic effect, but I always imagine Soren reciting it in his thin, nasal voice. Can’t you hear it trying to dramatize this lazily nietzschean dictum: “Black boots on the pavement signal the coming of the M A N W I T H N O M O R A L S”.

I’m off to finish reading the “BOOK THAT CHANGED THE WORLD”, lol.

Posted by man in black boots scuffing the floor on June 26, 2009, 12:20 AM | #

Hey, “LOL” almost rhymes with LOWELL!

Posted by Q on June 26, 2009, 12:33 AM | #

Bar room brilliance!

Posted by GenoType on June 26, 2009, 01:35 AM | #

Bar room brilliance!

This from Mr. Onlooker, er, .357 Magnum, er, Dave Johns, er, Q, who posts while drunk. 

Pot. Kettle. Black.

Pathetic.

Agree with him or not, some of CvH’s ideas are original and worth consideration.

Posted by Q on June 26, 2009, 02:05 AM | #

I’m always happy to hear from my fan club. grin

Posted by Bo Sears on June 26, 2009, 05:48 PM | #

One problem with the essay is the over-abundance of names & labels standing for categories of discourse.  We already live in a great bubble of assigned (or received) categories of discourse. 

It is conceivable, however, that publishing something like this might have a clarifying value if readers grasp that this and other babbles of names & labels is something from which we can be liberated, thus freeing us to begin to seek authentic, rooted lives in which we respond to real things rather than stay in a crazed propaganda sphere.

On the other hand, the writer may imagine himself a contemporary James Augustine Aloysius Joyce and see his writing as meaningful or helpful on its surface, but if this essay persuades readers to shake off their dependence on names, labels, and categories of discourse, it could be very valuable to the cause.

Kindly pass on to the writer that “Inuit in Greenland” is a construct, likewise “globalism,” “mud,” “King David,” “Dr. Doom,” and “Constantin von Hoffmeister.”

Posted by Dasein on June 26, 2009, 06:52 PM | #

I recently read an interview with Martin Lemay, the head of the Parti Quebecois in Canada (they are a separatist party that wants to split Quebec off from Canada and create a French-speaking nation in North America).  In 1995 the PQ held a referendum on sovereignty (I believe it was some vague question, but basically if you said yes it meant a likely eventual split from ‘English’ Canada).  The No campaigners spent 9 times as much money as the ‘Yes’ side did, some of it federal money from Ottawa (I’m not sure if this was illegal, but I’m guessing it was at least kept quiet, perhaps somebody who knows more about Canadian politics- Desmond?- can comment).  In any case, the No side won with 50,58% of the vote.  There were accusations of foul play on the part of the federal government.  In addition to the money, they were accused of having rushed through a bunch of immigration applications from Third Worlders in Quebec, who they could assume would vote No. 

As I was reading this interview, I started wondering how different things would be for WNs if the PQ had won that referendum.  You would have had the maritime provinces split off from the rest of Canada, making it at the very least a geographically awkward union.  There are also ethnic, cultural, and economic differences between the maritimes and the rest of the country.  If I’m not mistaken, the maritimes would be more Scottish and Irish, along with Brits who left the US after its independence, whereas Ontario would be more Brit/German/Dutch and non-White (Toronto is becoming a Third World city).  The prairies are also somewhat different in terms of ethnicity, attitude, and economy, and the same with BC, which has a huge Asian population, at least in Vancouver.  My point is that there would have been a number of new fault lines that might have become more obvious. 

Could Quebec have been the first domino in a series of new countries within North America?  There is always the chance the US would have swallowed them up, but it wouldn’t have been guaranteed.  Of course, Quebec could still get its independence someday soon.  If that happened, could this be the moment when WNs in North America get a chance to win their own country?  I know there are differences in opinion in terms of strategy, e.g. breakaway ethnostate or winning it all back (CC).  But maybe White hopes in North America start with Quebec.

Posted by Desmond Jones on June 27, 2009, 05:35 AM | #

Dasein,

Any aspirations for Quebec nationalism, which had survived since the Conquest, died with Adolf Hitler. It took a little longer for Quebec than for English Canada but they succumbed to the joys of neo-liberalism, forsaking the Catholicism that had sustained them for a century and a half. Birthrates plummeted, the blessings of immigration overcame them and they believed that the French language and a secular socialist leviathan would carry them and their multi-cult brethren to victory in 1995. It was never as close as they proclaimed. They denied credence to the Cree vote in Northern Quebec and used every impediment to discount Anglo votes in the Eastern Townships (near the Ontario border). Ottawa was ready to deploy military force if the vote was lost.

If it had happened, the Maritimes to Canada would have been little different than Alaska to the US mainland. Possibly Newfoundlanders, many of whom still lament the loss of their independence, might have considered separation, but money talks, and transfer payments from Ontario would be difficult to turn down. Ontario, you must remember is over a third Catholic, and has not been a bastion of Britishness since at least WWII. The multi-cults origins, in Canada, came with its Jewish and Catholic migrations, their alliance with the owners of capital and their government representatives and an ineluctable appeasement of French Canada in a never ending worship of unity. The mass migration of non-Europeans to the country is just another chapter in an old story.

It’s over for Quebec. It’s been over for a longtime. There is no breakaway potential in Canada because ethnic groups, whether it is Ukrainians in Vegreville, Alberta or Chinese in Richmond, British Columbia all believe that multiculturalism is a benefit. It’s only the stupid Anglos who haven’t yet awakened to the fact that its no longer their country and the sooner they start acting like just another minority group, the better off they will be.

Posted by Dasein on June 27, 2009, 09:00 AM | #

Thanks for those insights, Desmond.  My impression is that the biggest part of modern Canadian identity is a smug superiority that their multicultural experiment is working better than it is in the US, where they point to slavery, race riots, etc.  Perhaps Canada has been a bit more selective in which Thirld Worlders they brought in, but in the end it will still be a miserable hell-hole, if just a bit more tolerable for a bit longer.  The Quebecers I knew were much less PC than English Canadians, e.g. would openly crack jokes about Negroes.  In terms of myth (O’Meara’s essay at TOO is worth reading), I always assumed Quebecers had one. When you visit places like Quebec city, you get the impression that it’s a people that feel they are special.  It will be sad to see them go, assuming they can’t turn it around.

Posted by Gatuso on June 27, 2009, 05:22 PM | #

Crass nonsense. The poet Constantin always throws a surprise into the ether. The key to unlock his mysteries are esconced in the innermost corners of his bosom. Who will struggle to find it ?

Posted by tassi on June 27, 2009, 05:25 PM | #

The judeophile Constantin, who in his manic outbursts outdoes any jew alive. How on earth does he know that a caricature , figure, a figment of a desert dweller’s imagination, King David had red hair ?
Each time I read Constantin I have emetic bouts.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on June 27, 2009, 09:15 PM | #

Here’s the sort of thing you get in voting booths, politics, government bureaucracies, and government ministries when you allow women to think they have the right to vote and to pronounce on any political issue with their brainlessness:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXNoHWQQ0rs&eurl=http://www.majorityrights.com/&feature=player_embedded .

The Israeli Knesset just outlawed anyone within Israel’s borders saying “Israel isn’t a Jewish country.” It had to:  it has women voters.  It was left with no choice.

The Jews in this country couldn’t believe their luck when women’s suffrage passed.  Fate handed them a golden opportunity for wreaking irreversible annihilation on this country and they picked it up and ran with it.  The Jews have expertly manipulated clueless women voters ever since without let-up, and look where the country stands crawls today as a result.

The bimbo in this video ends her little bitch-off session by saying she intends to move to Zimbabwe to get away from the BNP.  She throws that in just to piss normal people off of course (probably at the suggestion of her Jewish boyfriend who probably put her up to this whole performance in the first place; or its possible she’s Jewish herself) but in a sane world Zimbabwe is exactly where she’d be permanently shipped (actually she’d be given a choice:  Zimbabwe, Soweto, or Port Moresby).

Posted by Q on June 27, 2009, 09:52 PM | #

More appropriately, she deserves to be dropped off in a Taliban controlled region of Afghanistan or Pakistan.

Posted by Dasein on June 27, 2009, 11:17 PM | #

This is a comment that ‘j’ made at FeministX’s blog.  FeministX is a Hindu feminist (supposedly) who’s into HBD.  j is a Jew living in Israel.  He’s commented here a number of times, I remember seeing him most recently on a Holoco$t thread.

Regarding Europeans, let them fry in Hell without breadbaskets. A selfrespecting brown girl you pretend to be should think likewise.

http://feministx.blogspot.com/2009/06/worstideaever.html?showComment=1244785585303#c754338236904756723

Over at Mangan’s, j proposes an alliance between Jews and White Americans:

My point is that (1) Jews should be part or allies of the white majority, (2) To do so, we must be allowed to join. Obviously, we cannot live with antisemites like Kevin MacDonald, who says that Jews are genetically, irreversibly bad. (3) The time is now. America is in a deep crisis and the rigid structures of the past are dead. For a short time things are going to be soft and malleable. This window of opportunity must be seized. If not, it will surely be exploited by others, and surely not for our benefit.

http://mangans.blogspot.com/2009/06/were-supposed-to-volunteer-while.html#c1849340293732271471

‘for our benefit’.  Sometimes I still get surprised by the deceitfulness and venom.  These are the people Jobling wants to reach out to.

Posted by Q on June 27, 2009, 11:39 PM | #

Sometimes I still get surprised by the deceitfulness and venom.  These are the people Jobling wants to reach out to.

More often than not, Jews are straightforward with their intentions and venom:

http://vdare.com/roberts/harvard_genocide.htm

Posted by Desmond Jones on June 28, 2009, 12:18 AM | #

Possibly, Dasein. However, they were the ones who felt they could bring bundles of French speaking Haitians into la belle province and transform them to good Quebecers and now they are paying the price.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZ_kgFcFGy8

Certainly, more leeway is given to the Quebec press, because of the province’s political clout, to criticize official Jewry, as compared to English Canada, but it is nothing like the levels of free speech found in the US. A site like MR could never exist in Canada, even on an American server if it was authored by a Canadian resident. It’s telling that the battle for free speech in Canada is lead by a Jew and two women. And the women are as bent out of shape as a New York pretzel in an effort to show they’re philo-Semitic. The CJC, B’nai Brith and their kapos at the Human Rights Commissions totally dominant the discourse.

Posted by Captainchaos on June 28, 2009, 12:40 AM | #

I remember seeing him most recently on a Holoco$t thread.

There is only one way, truly, even if one be tactically cryptic about it, to deal with duplicitous scum like that, and that is to do as Silver bids me not, to kick them squarely in the balls.  Make no mistake, they want to see us exterminated and to piss on our graves.  Well I say, “fuck them!”.

Sometimes I still get surprised by the deceitfulness and venom.

You live in Germany, don’t you dude?  Doesn’t it just make your blood boil that the German people, my blood, are expected to perish for the benefit of that vermin?  It at least makes me think from time to time that those filthy goddamn fucking Krauts were right about a thing or two, e.g., that Winston Churchill was a piece of shit who sold out his race for the blood money of the Jews whilst Adolf Hitler, the figure that towers over the twentieth century, was a great man.

P.S. What we are, the characteristics and genetic constitution of our people, is an empirical question.  What the people are to be taught of that, and how to think about that, is perhaps a philosophically prescriptive enterprise.  Or at least it might nicely gild the lily.  But the idea that the German people need feel any sense of shame for the heroic men that produced National Socialism, the potential salvation of Germany and all Europeans, is 100% pure, unadulterated bullshit.  Best work that into the “philosophy”.

Posted by Captainchaos on June 28, 2009, 01:34 AM | #

English Canada

The CJC, B’nai Brith and their kapos at the Human Rights Commissions totally dominant the discourse.

Good thing all the good Germans were exterminated, otherwise the world would no longer be safe for those who wish to take it in the keister from the Jews.  That is, unless, there is the will to literally “shove it back where is came from.” How does one encourage his co-ethnics to, ah “philosophically”, get some some balls?

Posted by sickuntodeath on June 28, 2009, 02:37 AM | #

For God’s sake, Fred Scrooby!- how ignorant is it to generalize about all women from this one? You do it all the time. Please picture doing the same with men and fix yourself! This site so eschews women and regularly features the ludicrous pathetic cvh, that one has to wonder wtf is its agenda. Is this a site actually seeking something, or just a platform for various displays of narcissism?

Fred, your rage makes one suspect you have it pent up from personal experience. Clean up your act. It’s not admirable to be irrational.

I’ve been reading this blog for a while, but I may have to stop. It can be sickening.

Posted by Frank on June 28, 2009, 02:49 AM | #

sickuntodeath,

women don’t vote liberally? That women shouldn’t vote doesn’t make them “inferior”.

Posted by sickuntodeath on June 28, 2009, 03:20 AM | #

Frank.

‘Only 12% of men and 9% of women support boneheaded “liberal” programs like affirmative action for women.
Only 15% of men and 11% of women support affirmative action by race.

Eighty-six percent of Americans support raising the minimum age by one dollar per hour. Although this idea is widely supported by almost everyone, women are more likely to be in favor of a minimum wage hike than are men—76% of men would vote “for,” compared to 87% of women.’

http://www.gallup.com/poll/releases/pr001101.asp

Why the quotes around ‘inferior’? Who wrote it before you did?

Posted by Fred Scrooby on June 28, 2009, 05:09 AM | #

Further to Dasein’s mention of “J” above, J writes about Professor Kevin MacDonald:

http://h2oreuse.blogspot.com/2009/06/prof-macdonald-anti-racist.html

Prof. Kevin MacDonald, an anti-Semite [Scroob note:  if wishing Jews to stop genociding Euros is anti-Semitic, wishing them not to stop must be pro-Semitic:  OK Jews, keep genociding them.  See?  I’m pro-Semitic.], in his new article in the [Occidental Observer], turns the world upside down and shows that he is not a racist, but his opponents are.  One cannot but admire his neat mental acrobatics, just as one cannot but be utterly fascinated by a good circus magician, who performs physically impossible acts before our eyes.  We are aware that it is a trick; however, we leave the circus without any anger towards the magician for insulting our intelligence but on the contrary, feeling admiration for his dexterity in deceiving us.

MacDonald starts by positioning himself on a good launching pad:  his background is leftist and originally he was deeply skeptical of sociobiology […].  Then he was converted and re-converted to evolutionary psych which elegantly avoids the accusation of racism, by stating that all humans are alike because we all evolved in the same environment.

MacDonald builds a theory where biological competition is superseded by cultural competition, that is, culture controls reproductive behavior.  Therefore, culture wars are in fact biological wars for reproductive success.  MacDonald says that he discovered how culture could shape the behavior of men in ways that contradicted the predictions of the evolutionary theory of sex, that is, culture could cause men to behave monogamously (as against their biological interests in polygamy) and even to avoid reproduction at all.

Racial theories say that human behavior is determined by genetic factors, so unlucky races are condemned to lose in biological competitions against lucky races.  [Scroob note:  Wrong.  First, why call them “racial theories” instead of “findings convincingly demonstrating 1) heritability of intelligence (shown largely by studies of twins reared apart, controlled for potentially confounding variables) and of certain behavioral traits, and 2) consistent differences between races in scores on intelligence tests even when controlled for various potentially confounding variables”?  Second, let’s leave “value judgements” like “lucky and unlucky” out of it and stick to objective science, shall we?  Third, what “competitions” are we talking about?  If it’s talent for improvisation in certain kinds of jazz and blues music Negroes are the champs.  If it’s learning the Pythagorean Theorem in the seventh grade without excessive amounts of time and effort required on the part of both pupil and teacher, Negroes aren’t the champs.] Racists say that nothing can be done, so Africans, for example, cannot be educated and the monies invested in improving their academic achievements are resources wasted on a lost cause.  [Nope.  People in contact with reality (I’m assuming “racists” means people in contact with reality) don’t think “nothing can be done” to educate Africans.  They recognize however that it takes a trillion times more time and effort to educate African Negroes, time and effort which it’s not realistic to devote and still run society the normal way if you have lots of these people in your country.  Obviously it’s a drag on society and detrimental.  So, they can be educated but at what expense in terms of time, money, and other allocation of resources?  If cats aren’t made to swim or dogs to walk on their hind legs, or Negroes on average to learn as well as whites in school, why not respect that fact and see what you can come up with by taking it into account instead of beating your head against the wall at failure after failure?  (Also, why replace your white population with a Negro one in that case?) If you want something that swims and you have only cats which you must laboriously teach how to do it, or that walks on its hind legs and you have only dogs that you must laboriously teach how to do it, you’re going to have more difficulty than a guy who has fish for the one purpose, and ducks for the other.  Same with societies that want their members to learn well in school.  What are the innate talents of the demographic material they have to work with?] MacDonald puts himself in the Politically Correct field, saying that education and culture are important, so he is not a racist.  Of course, all is a play with mirrors and lights, of semantics and talmudism (a term coined in the Soviet Union), because it is obvious that he does believe that no amount of education or culture can affect African performance.  [No, he doesn’t believe that.  See above:  he recognizes that it’s harder on average to educate members of certain races, not impossible, and that the society burdened with large numbers of such genetically harder-to-educate individuals will be unable to compete with ones whose populations learn easier and better with a given amount of resources devoted to their education, populations also who go through life in general making more intelligent decisions about things, even ones they weren’t specifically coached on in school.] He thinks the same about all behavioral features, like aggression:  they are genetic and no amount of education can shape it.  [Wrong:  “genetic” can mean under genetic influence without being absolutely genetically determined.  Traits under genetic influence but not absolutely genetically determined can be shaped by education but societies whose populations include large numbers who are genetically inclined to have certain inconvenient traits may have to devote unrealistically great resources to countering such traits, resources they can’t afford and still function like normal societies.]

[…] MacDonald is not actually debating culture vs. genetics, but he is trying to evade the fact he is a racist and an anti-Semite [”racist” meaning someone in contact with reality, and “anti-Semite” meaning someone who wishes Jews would stop genociding Euros].  I make a distinction between “racist” and “White Nationalist.” The latter is an ethnic activist, openly advancing the interests and the culture and the folk traditions of his own ethnic group.  We humans all do that – from the Tutu in Africa to the Russians in Siberia—and it is open to debate how much it is genetic and how much it is cultural.  But MacDonald is NOT part of that debate, he cares little about White Americans [he appears to want Jews to stop genociding them — absent some other ulterior motive, that qualifies as “caring about them,” no?], although he would like to convince us that that is all he does.  MacDonald is obsessively focused on the Jews and nothing else but the Jews.  [Maybe if the Jews would stop genociding his race he’d focus on something else?] He is a despicable racist and anti-Semite [see definitions of “racist” and “anti-Semite” above], and no amount of bright lights and mirrors and academic wordplay can hide his basic, fundamental, obsessive hate of Jews and other ethnic groups.  [I thought it was only the Jews he hated.  Which other ethnic group does he hate?  Samaritans?  Hertzegovnians?  Basques?  Shetland Islanders?  Bulgarians?  Who?] His agenda is not to advance the cause of his own ethnic group [Isn’t documenting the Jewish role in attempting to extinguish them advancing their cause?  Hey if they can see who’s doing it to them maybe they can take steps to avoid it?] and not to advance the scientific understanding of human behavior, but to oppress, persecute, tax and harm in any way his bete-noir:  the Jews.  [I doubt he’d have any problem with Jews if Jews stopped trying to kill off Euro-race people.  I know I wouldn’t.] He should be silenced.  [OK but should Abe Foxman also be silenced?  And should Morris Dees be silenced?  And should Tim Wise, Noël Ignatiev, Alon Ziv, Susan Sontag, Senator Chuck Schumer, Supreme Court Justices Brier and Ginsburg, the Jews who run the New York Times and all the other anti-white media, the ones who run Hollywood, the Jews who thought up “Progress by Pesach,” and all the other Jews who are trying to exterminate the North American Euro race, be silenced too?  If we can silence all those anti-Euro Jews, Prof. MacDonald wouldn’t have to be “silenced”:  he would immediately shut up for lack of anything to say.]

Posted by Fred Scrooby on June 28, 2009, 05:10 AM | #

Here’s my reply to Sickuntodeath:

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on June 28, 2009, 06:37 AM | #

I just read J’s comment over at Mangan’s, which Dasein linked above.  J writes:

I think the main issue of Mangan’s [blog entry] is race replacement, which is a real phenomenon going on in the United States.  Once, American engineering schools were the best in the world and they were peopled by WASPs and a minority of Jews (I am an engineer and a Jew).  Today you cannot find a WASP in those engineering schools, they have been replaced.  In my time, American factories peopled by WASP workers had no competition and were envied and copied the world over.  Today, the few factories still operating are peopled by third world immigrant workers.  And they are being beaten by Third World competition, which is only too logical.

Now, I dont know why anyone should think that the current situation is good for the Jews.  [Scroob note:  somehow it must be, since the U.S.’s Jews are pushing it to beat the band.  In fact they, U.S. organized Jewry, are its biggest promoters and have been since before World War I (not II, I).  You read the old time immigration reformers from the first decade of the last century, and they say their main opposition was the Jews.  So it’s gotta be good for the Jews otherwise virtually one hundred percent of U.S. organized Jewry wouldn’t be pushing it.  Nobody can figure out how it’s good for them.  But everyone knows it must be.] I for one think it is very bad.  [Good luck convincing Abe Foxman of that.] Jews had it never better than under the leadership of the WASPs.  [What about Alexander the Great?  I heard he was pretty good.] Israel had no better friends that quaker Nixon and Southern Evangelist Johnson.  I dont know why Barak Hussein Obama should be better for us.  I think the Jews who voted for him made a mistake [it’s not just the Jews who voted for him, it’s the whole Jewish machine that discovered him and plugged him into the Jewish network (that honor belongs to Abner Mikvah and his daughter), groomed him, funded him, top-to-bottom managed him, manipulated the electronic and print mass media in favor of him, and put him in office], although antisemites think Jews never act against their interests and make no mistakes.  [Well, it’s not exactly that, it’s what happens to everyone else while the Jews are going through their learning process — like the Holodomor for example, fifteen million starved to death or shot.  Or like the prying-open of the U.S.’s borders by the Jews in 1965.  Stuff Jews do may turn out to be bad for the Jews but it’s outright genocidal for the goys.  Not to be rude or anything, but we goys can’t afford too many more Jewish learning processes ….. ]

My point is that (1) Jews should be part or allies of the white majority [OK but can they stop genociding us first?  Any chance of Abe Foxman, the New York Times, and the AJC shutting the fuck up if we close the borders?], (2) To do so, we must be allowed to join.  [”Join”?  Opposition to race-replacement is a one-step process — you oppose it.  That’s it.  There’s nothing to “join” afterward, you just oppose it, and that’s all there is to it.  If you’re looking for Jews who oppose it to sort of hook up with, instead of goys, the Jewish Task Force may be what you’re after:  http://www.jtf.org .  They’re a very good outfit, excellent guys.] Obviously, we cannot live with antisemites like Kevin MacDonald, who says that Jews are genetically, irreversibly bad.  [OK but the Jews have only to prove him wrong by stopping their support for open borders and Euro-race genocide.  Jews here side with non-whites against whites at every turn, no exceptions.  It would be like Hesbollah and Hamas operating freely inside Israel, siding aggressively at every turn, no exceptions, with the terrorists.  That’s the role the U.S. Jews play vis-à-vis the U.S. Euro population.  Euros are pointing it out and would like it stopped.  That’s all MacDonald is doing.  If they stopped he’d have no more gripe with them than he has with the Amish.] The time is now.  [The time for what?  I already said, to oppose race-replacement it’s a one-step process — you oppose it, and that’s it.  That’s all I did, and here I am.  I didn’t “join” anything.  There’s nothing to “join.”] America is in a deep crisis [you got that right, J] and the rigid structures of the past are dead.  [Good now if only the rigid structures of the present would die we’d stand a chance.] For a short time things are going to be soft and malleable.  This window of opportunity must be seized.  If not, it will surely be exploited by others, and surely not for our benefit.  [Hey go for it.  It’s a one-step process, and there’s nothing to “join.” Check out the JTF if Jewish instead of goyish comradeship is what you’re after, as you go about it — they’re good guys over there.  They don’t like Kevin MacDonald any more than you do, so you’ll like that.  Which is not important.  What’s important is opposition to race-replacement.]

Posted by caracio on June 28, 2009, 07:20 AM | #

We are in a terminal state. The jews have brought us to this pass, with the aid of proxy entities, negroes, arabs, asians, feminists, pornocrats, drug barons, etc, etc.  There can be no aliance with jews. It can never worked. Their goal is to replace us, to miscgeneate, us , to bastardize us. In our place a “ new race and breed” will be created. To escape this serregated chain saw across our napes, we nee tho get rid of them. No easy task, when the majoprity of whites has been infected with the bacillus of self destruction.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on June 28, 2009, 01:01 PM | #

“More appropriately, she deserves to be dropped off in a Taliban controlled region of Afghanistan or Pakistan.” (—Q)

Good idea, we’ll make that the fourth choice when the time comes.

Posted by Sickuntodeath on June 28, 2009, 02:26 PM | #

I understand, Fred. Tackling the defects in one’s thinking is difficult. Sleeping is easy. Doze away.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on June 28, 2009, 03:19 PM | #

“Sleeping is easy.” (—Boringuntodeath)

Yeah you could make a million dollars packaging your comments and selling them as sleeping pills.  Make “Sleeping is easy” the product slogan in ads and printed on the box.  I tell you, it’s a sure thing — it can’t fail!  You’d be crazy not to do it!

Posted by Fred Scrooby on June 28, 2009, 06:25 PM | #

For those interested in “J” the water engineer, these couple of entries and comments threads of his (among many others) show him to be (what is the rule among Jews, not the exception) totally closed off mentally to an appreciation of the extent to which the typical variety of diaspora Jewish activism and influence are an extremely aggressive and damaging Jewish tribal attack on Eurochristian society and on Euro race survival.  Try the same thing in reverse on Jews, using the Arabs as the weapon the way diaspora Jews use Negroes and various non-whites, and “J” will be among the first to cry “anti-Semitism”!  But when Jews do it to us he “can’t see it at all, and if we see it we must be anti-Semites suffering from dangerous hallucinations and we need to be silenced.” These Jews’ narcissism and solipsism are a wonder to behold, they’re so brazen, so extreme, and, well, so narcissistic and solipsistic.

http://h2oreuse.blogspot.com/2009/06/prof-macdonald-anti-racist.html

http://h2oreuse.blogspot.com/2009/06/sotomayor-was-right-on-fireman-ricci.html

There’s no possibility of communication between us and them, none.  Zero.  It’s an impasse.

Posted by Bill on June 29, 2009, 08:06 AM | #

As I look around Britain today, everywhere I see the fragmentation and dissolving of what used to be.

Systemic failure and not fit for purpose is the watchword to describe the unravelling of the nation Britain.  Politically and socially all the signs point to exhaustion of the system, I cannot think of any area of life which is not affected.

By the time of the next election, the manifestation of this disintegration will be apparent, we will be fighting tomorrow’s battles with yesterday’s obsolete weapons.

Events are evolving at such speed it is possible we will reach this stage before the next election is due.

We are descending into chaos, blind and with no compass.

Are there any parallels for this scenario?

Posted by Fred Scrooby on June 29, 2009, 02:48 PM | #

The Supreme Court has decided the Ricci case in favor of the whites, as it should be.  Without even checking, one can be sure the Jewish justices Ginsburg and Brier voted against the whites because Jews see themselves from birth as locked in a tribal war against Eurochristians and will always favor what harms them unless it harms Jews too (in which case the Jewish homozygotes like Noam Chomsky will still favor it:  one of the things that carrying two copies of the Jewish nation-destroying gene does to a person is take away his ability to recognize self, so unlike the heterozygotes he harms himself as well as his enemy). 

The Israeli Water Engineer too sees himself as locked in a tribal war against Eurochristians.  Look at this irrational and super-obnoxious entry he posted on the Ricci case:

http://h2oreuse.blogspot.com/2009/06/sotomayor-was-right-on-fireman-ricci.html .

If how bad that was didn’t jump right out at you, read this Steve Sailer piece on the case,

http://www.vdare.com/sailer/090628_bazelon.htm .

Now form your (unfavorable) opinion of the Israeli Water Engineer. 

If you need confirmation of that (unfavorable) opinion check out this entry of his, in which he gives the kiss-off to the Boers currently being horrifically genocided thanks largely to Jewry, both the South African and international varieties:

http://h2oreuse.blogspot.com/2009/06/what-is-happening-with-boervolk.html .

Posted by Fred Scrooby on June 30, 2009, 12:14 AM | #

Here’s a brief exposition of the history of the other Israel, this one more than a decade older than Israel, physically bigger, Yiddish-based instead of Hebrew-based, and worker/socialism-based rather than rabbinical/religious-tradition-based:

http://www.swarthmore.edu/Home/News/biro/ .

This compilation says it’s not doing so well Jewish-demography-wise, because lots of Jews don’t want to live there, but this exposition is from the 1990s:  if I’m not mistaken Jews have taken more of an interest since then, and its Jewish population and Jewishness have picked up.

(Hat tip:  http://state-of-exile.blogspot.com/ )

Posted by Fred Scrooby on June 30, 2009, 06:03 PM | #

I think underneath, Mangan is a good man.  Maybe a very good man:

I am beginning to change my mind as to the possibility of the old America not coming back, and of course I completely agree that no “hate, bigotry, racism, etc… needed.” As to “what ideal would you have us keep in mind as we struggle to go forward?” - you’re asking a lot of me.  I’ve only sort of stumbled into this position via blogging and I can only say what I think - I’m no “leader”.

The old America has always been my ideal, and assuming that it cannot return, the only problem I have with a racially exclusive society is how to get there.  Historically, these things tend to happen through organized violence, and that is pretty dreadful to contemplate, much less advocate, which I don’t.

It has seemed to me that one way of at least starting on the return path to the old America is through first, completely halting immigration, second, a constitutional amendment - or perhaps only a Supreme Court ruling is required - that clarifies that the 14th Amendment does not apply to children of illegal immigrants, and it would be applied retroactively.  Third, encourage the out-migration of legal immigrants, through payments perhaps.  The feasibility of all this is certainly open to debate, maybe it’s impossible.

( http://mangans.blogspot.com/2009/06/moderates-and-extremists.html#c5495029156972169194 )

(And yes, yes, I realize there’s a possibility he’s an Irish Catholic, I’m aware of that.  But there are exceptions to everything.)

Posted by Desmond Jones on June 30, 2009, 07:37 PM | #

The United States has existed throughout its history as a racially-mixed nation, with a confident white majority and small black minority. Two things have changed radically over the past 1.5 generations: a huge increase in the non-white population, and a loss in confidence by the white majority, both for reasons that will be well known. If the U.S. existed for 200 years as a racially-mixed society, it’s possible that it could do so again.

Never trust the Irish.

Well, saints and begora...may America be half an hour in heaven, before the devil knows she’s dead.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on July 01, 2009, 12:51 PM | #

That Mangan comments thread has some good comments.  This one for example (there are others):

Mark Krikorian has performed admirably in the poltical trench warfare of immigration refrom.  But there are limits to the aracial strategy.  At some point in time, the aracial strategy of Krikorian and Beck will be thrown overboard because it will become a liability as the attacks — and they are surely comming with the racial transformation of America — on White American Males increase.

As Peter Brimelow has written Krikorian and Beck are political triangulators looking for respectability.  In their politcal universe, White Americans do not even exist.  If CIS and numbersusa.com become the respectable face of immigration reform, White Male bashing will be respectable.  For these two organizations, the case against immigration is based upon how immigration policy harms non-whites.  I do not want any part of this garbage.  Both Krikorian and Beck are playing right into the hands of the enemy.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on July 01, 2009, 12:55 PM | #

In calling that a good comment I don’t mean I agree that what Beck and Krikorian are doing is bad.  It’s good given the circumstances.  But I agree that at some point aracialism will have to be dropped and the racial nettle explicitly grasped.  Otherwise you get nothing and the Jews will genocide you.  The Jews will get around any aracial argument.  The only way they can get around a racial one is through the Jewish-invented, dumb-goy-swallowed tactic of race-denial.  But that’s a losing tactic.

Posted by Frank on July 04, 2009, 02:37 PM | #

sickuntodeath,

Sorry for the very late reply.

“Why the quotes around ‘inferior’? Who wrote it before you did? “

You were upset that Scrooby’s comments might drive away female readers, so I’d assumed you found them insulting. I was imitating the common portrayal of women not being allowed to vote as signifying their inferiority, which is a sort of absurd divide and conquer scheme to divide men and women of the same race. In reality males do hold a superior position in society, but it shouldn’t be seen in an absolute sense as a superior and inferior relationship but rather more of a difference of roles.

In reality, women shouldn’t find Scrooby’s comments insulting at all. Women are meant to perform certain duties, and men are meant to perform certain duties. Neither should be upset at this natural ordering of society.

Were men expected to raise children and women to work all day, I hope women would write furiously about how terribly the men perform these unnatural duties relative to women. Men can in a pinch fill in for women and vice versa and there is variability among individuals, but overall each is best suited for somewhat different societal roles.

Europeans value women much more highly than other races btw. To what extent this is genetic, as opposed to cultural, I don’t know.

Posted by Frank on July 04, 2009, 02:41 PM | #

Mark Krikorian has performed admirably in the poltical trench warfare of immigration refrom.  But there are limits to the aracial strategy.  At some point in time, the aracial strategy of Krikorian and Beck will be thrown overboard because it will become a liability as the attacks — and they are surely comming with the racial transformation of America — on White American Males increase.

As Peter Brimelow has written Krikorian and Beck are political triangulators looking for respectability.  In their politcal universe, White Americans do not even exist.  If CIS and numbersusa.com become the respectable face of immigration reform, White Male bashing will be respectable.  For these two organizations, the case against immigration is based upon how immigration policy harms non-whites.  I do not want any part of this garbage.  Both Krikorian and Beck are playing right into the hands of the enemy.

I don’t know about Krikorian, but Beck has held the line well. A racial approach wouldn’t have achieved the same results up till now I think. A political approach is different from a cultural approach. Beck chose political. Even if at heart he doesn’t care about whites and will in the future no longer be of use to us, he’s served whites well up till now - the same goes for Tancredo and his “Judeo-Christian West”.

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