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Seeking Chinese Nationalist For Majority Radio Guest Spot The Nanjing Anti-African riots leading to Tiananmen Square may, themselves, have been a precursor to today’s massacre at Virginia Tech University reportedly committed by an Asian student (although verification is not yet in). If so, it is important to discuss the raciosexual (yes I made up that word and it deserves reification) dynamics of campus life, particularly how it impacts the education of young men not equipped to deal with a sexual ecology that would never appear in nature. If this is taken to mean I harbor sympathies for young men who might go on murderous rampages against those of another race that are fucking their women on campus—the answer is, “Yes”. If this is further taken to mean that I hold innocent young men, living among foreigners in another country, who go on such rampages—the answer is, “No”. It is on this basis that I would like to interview a Chinese nationalist with first-hand knowledge of the situation facing young men in Nanjing so we can discuss how to prevent such torture of young men trying to receive an education—and potentially prevent catastrophic wars between our great nations resulting from vicious policies of multiculturalism. UPDATE 4:46PM PDT: A Times Now report quotes a witness to the shootings:
I know it is unfair of me to say, “I told you so.” since I used racial reality to impute motive accurately and it is just unfair to perceive race reality—at least its unfair for white heterosexual males to use such forbidden knowledge. FURTHER UPDATE 6:55PM PDT: Daily Mail UK reports that:
So the sexual hypothesis is supported by further reports. The question remaining before we may reasonably conclude this was a raciosexual-motivated massacre is whether there were the expected number of Asian male victims given the reported “indiscriminate” killing. If we are going to strongly falsify the raciosexual motive hypothesis, the number of Asian males should approximate their percentage at such an engineering school. UPDATE April 20, 1:30PM PDT: The list of victims with photographs are now available and do not support the naive “Asian-chauvinist” raciosexual motive, although a raciosexual cause may still be valid hypothesizing a higher vulnerability of east Asian men to sexually vicious multicultural environments—hence a higher level of stress. Moreover, an interesting fact is that it appears there are actually more “Asian” victims than one would expect by more than a factor of 2. However, these are divided between East Asian victims (Henry Lee and Mary Read) and other “Asians”: South Asian victims (G.V. Loganathan, Partahi Lombantoruan, Minal Panchal, Reema Samaha) and West Asian victims (Ross Abdallah Alameddine and Reema Samaha both Lebonese—and we might include the Egyptian Waleed Mohammed Shaalan). There are a lot more dark skinned Asians among the victims than one would expect. Moreover, the sole female East Asian victim was Korean, “born on an Air Force base”—meaning she was probably sired by a white military man with a Korean mother. Given these nuances it is rather difficult to dismiss the raciosexual hypothesis altogether and indeed, it seems desirable to invoke a variant of the raciosexual hypothesis to explain the over-abundance of dark-skinned Asians among the victim list and the “coincidence” that the sole east Asian female victim was not only a conational of the killer but the product of an interracial marriage involving a Korean mother. Here is a picture of Mary Read with her father Peter Read: From an earlier article reproduced at Amren: Nanjing Anti-African Protests of 1988-89 by Erin Chung, Global Mappings (Northwestern University) From December 1988 to January 1989, students in Nanjing, China waged violent protests against visiting African students. These protests became the precursor to the nationwide pro-democracy movement in the spring of 1989, which resulted in the massacre of Chinese students by armed troops in Tiananmen Square. Displaying an uneven combination of racial tension, nationalism, and reformism, the Nanjing protests fused mass hostility toward visiting African students with official nationalist discourse to create the momentum for a popular movement for political change. At the same time, they marked the denouement of China’s proclaimed leadership of the “Third World” with long-term consequences for Sino-African relations. Yet, these protests were neither isolated events, as the Chinese government claimed, nor simply outbreaks of general xenophobia directed at all foreigners. Frank Dikötter has traced various discourses of race in China from the late nineteenth century based on myths of origins, ideologies of blood, and narratives of biological descent that have been central to the cultural construction of Chinese identity. Barry Sautman attributes the rise of anti-Africanism among the Chinese intelligentsia in the reform era (1978-present) to the return of racial stereotyping and elitist values dating back to Imperial China that link and denigrate those who are dark and those who are poor. Hostility and violence against visiting African students had erupted for various reasons since their arrival in 1960 as part of a government-sponsored program that provided full scholarships for nationals of friendly countries. Following its rise to power in 1949, the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) abolished the official discourse of race and embarked upon an intensive campaign to establish close ties with the newly independent African nations. As early as 1955, Premier Zhou Enlai declared that racism was uniquely absent in China. Friendly relations with Africa and African-descended peoples were central to the CCP’s “Third World” coalition during the 1960s. Mao Zedong proclaimed that the Chinese would lead the historical struggle against “white imperialism,” linking the problem of class with that of race in foreign policy. In the early 1960s, small groups of African students arrived in China with full scholarships and relatively generous stipends compared to those of their Chinese counterparts. However, most of the students returned home within a year or two due to poor living standards, lack of social opportunities, and the politicized environment of the Mao years. According to an account by a Ghanaian who studied in China during the 1960s, African students regularly encountered racial discrimination by their Chinese hosts, although racial hostility was the least important reason for their return. The Chinese government restored the African scholarship program in the mid-1970s and began sending African students to universities outside of Beijing. As China opened itself to the capitalist world market with a series of reforms initiated by Deng Xiaoping from 1978, its Third World identity became little more than a propaganda tool. In contrast to official statements supporting revolutionary movements in Africa and the civil rights movement in the United States in the 1960s, the CCP in the late 1970s and 1980s markedly downplayed Third World themes in the media. In addition, local authorities often excused, and sometimes justified, anti-African prejudice among Chinese students. For example, the Shanghai incident of July 1979 was triggered by complaints of loud music played by African students and culminated in an attack of the foreign student hall in which the African students lived. Although Chinese press commentaries admitted that the Chinese students attacked the African students, they also implied that “drunken and womanizing” Africans were prone to troublemaking. Moreover, contact between African men and Chinese women was the source of numerous clashes between Chinese and African students in the 1980s as well as the grounds for arrests and deportations of Africans. The Nanjing protests in December 1988 were triggered by a series of confrontations between African and Chinese students at Hehai University. The conflict intensified on December 24 when two African male students who were escorting two Chinese women to a Christmas Eve party on campus were stopped at the front gate and ordered to register their guests. A new university regulation that restricted registration procedures for guests visiting foreign students had been implemented in October of that year to stop African male students from consorting with Chinese women in their dormitories. A quarrel between one of the African students and the Chinese security guard escalated into a brawl between African and Chinese students that lasted until the next morning and resulted in the injury of eleven Chinese and two Africans. On the next day, 300 Chinese students, angered by a rumor that a Chinese man had been killed by an African student the previous evening, stormed the African students’ dormitory chanting, “Kill the Black Devils!” The police arrived to restore order two hours later. Fearing for their safety, over 60 African students left for the railway station to reach their embassies in Beijing. Local authorities prevented them from boarding the trains in order to retain those involved in the Christmas Eve brawl. In response, about 140 foreign students, including other African students in Nanjing and a dozen non-African foreign students, sat-in at the train station to demand that they be allowed to board a train for Beijing. Meanwhile, Chinese students at Hehai University mobilized students from other universities in Nanjing to protest what was perceived as special treatment for foreigners and to demand justice for the alleged murder of a Chinese man the night before. Approximately 3,000 students marched in the streets, singing the national anthem and chanting, “Down with Black Devils!” On December 26, the student demonstrators from Hehai University marched to the provincial government office to demand that the African students be held responsible for their crimes according to the full force of Chinese law. Holding a banner that read, “Protect Human Rights,” the demonstrators demanded the reform of a corrupt legal system that privileged foreigners at the expense of ordinary Chinese. That evening, a group of more than 3,000 Chinese students marched to the railway station with banners calling for the protection of human rights, political reform, and justice. The African students were immediately sequestered by the police to a military guest house in Yizheng, 60 kilometers northeast of Nanjing. The police declared the student demonstrations illegal and, with the help of riot police from neighboring provinces, quelled the demonstrations in the next few days. By early January 1989, the authorities arrested and deported three African students from Hehai University who were suspected of instigating the Christmas Eve brawl and sent the remaining students back to Nanjing. The African students were instructed to report to their school authorities before leaving their campuses and to not go out at night. Furthermore, the Hehai University president, Liang Ruiji, announced that African students were required to continue registering their guests at the front gate and were restricted to no more than one Chinese girlfriend whose visits would be limited to the lounge area. (Posted on April 11, 2005) Comments:2
Posted by James Bowery on Mon, 16 Apr 2007 20:57 | # When I speak of “Chinese Nationalist” I am referring to the kind of man represented by Sun Yat Sen, not the contemptable “Overseas Chinese” you refer to. The Chinese are not the Jews of Asia. Overseas Chinese are the Diaspora Jews of Asia. There is an important distinction here. Chinese have been relatively isolationist throughout their history. They even burned their ENTIRE merchant fleet upon the use of that fleet to return African slaves to China. A wise move that we may have done well to emulate. The cultivation of lands previously held by hunter gatherers by Europeans may turn out to be small compensation for the loss of our homelands—especially if the newly cultivated lands turn out to be lost to multiculturalism. It was only after the invasion of their territory by the Sasson family with opium, and subsequent use of the British maritime prowess that Chinese developed the pathology you describe. One may rest assured that a Chinese nationalist who has first hand knowledge of the Nanjing Anti-African riots will not be an “overseas Chinese” the way you describe. 3
Posted by NEC watch on Mon, 16 Apr 2007 21:17 | # First, I am not attacking the idea of such an interview; it may be useful. Second, I fail to see the distinctions you make between “Chinese and overseas Chinese”, since the “overseas Chinese” I’m describing in fact are not long-term residents of the diaspora, but recent migrants themselves. Of course, one may speculate that the migrants are behaviorally different from those who stay behind, but I am skeptical. I’m of the belief that the recent migrants who exhibit the most profound hypocritical phenotypes are indicative of the Chinese population as a whole. As to what may have triggered such a hypocritical ethnocentrism (as opposed to a more healthy “universal nationalism” sentiment), that is open to question. The point is: this is the way the Chinese are now, and I would speculate that such an oversensitive ethnocentric people would view European commentaries of the “rightness” of previous Chinese isolationism as a “trick”: the “white devils” expanded and now they are trying to prevent us from doing the same. Of course, an ethnic group of ~ 1.3 billion may show variability (although we are talking about a rather conformist people), and it may well be possible to find a genuine non-hypocritical Chinese nationalist. I for one am skeptical such a person would be representative of the population as a whole. 4
Posted by James Bowery on Mon, 16 Apr 2007 21:23 | # James, you still sound like you are excusing current Chinese expansionism and predatory behavior. No. Of course not. My point of saying that this young Asian man living in the US is not innocent for defending “his” women (presuming that was the motive) is precisely that there is nothing to call “his” in a foreign land. The US people were not really asked if they wanted the 1965 immigration reform act passed and to the extent that they were, they were lied to about its consequences. ALL immigrants who entered the US as a consequence of this defrauding of the people who fed the world from this land are without rights, except the right to be informed that they are used in this fraud against the American people, and to, perhaps, be compensated during repatriation, from the coffers of those who have profited by using them. The use of the Brits by the Jews admitted by Cromwell similarly requires understanding by the Chinese—understanding that should be all-the-more forthcoming given the fact that decolonization is complete—starting with men like Sun Yat Sen were educated in the West and returned home to become founders of their new national identity. 5
Posted by James Bowery on Mon, 16 Apr 2007 21:33 | # Daniel, it may well be that there is an ongoing exploitation of the US’s national malaise by Chinese nationalists that takes the form of espionage—meaning acts of war against the US people. These acts of war have to be considered in the context of the usurpation of the US’s government and the danger it represents—which is quite clear and present. The rational response is to identify with the respective peoples as true nations, with an eye toward disengagement of hostilities between them. 6
Posted by Al Ross on Mon, 16 Apr 2007 22:36 | # The “shoot as bad as they drive comment” by ‘daniel j’ is redolent of the attitude of the British officers who, whilst lounging around in the Verandah Bar of the Cricket Club (circa 1941), laughed at the impossibility of Japanese soldiers on bicycles, pedalling down the Malayan peninsula and capturing impregnable Singapore. 7
Posted by Thomas on Mon, 16 Apr 2007 23:16 | # The PRC has been spying and stealing US military/industrial secrets for quite a while. Then again, I don’t know if stealing and spying are the right terms to use because it seems that they don’t have to work very hard to get the information they want i.e. Los Alamos. They have the plans for the W88 and god knows what else. Many of these Chinese ‘students” are in fact intelligence agents. The fact that they can basically run free over the US and in our research universities makes one wonder if there is any sort of security at all. 8
Posted by Lorcan on Tue, 17 Apr 2007 00:42 | # The opium wars were certainly a factor in the modern Chinese worldview as was the attempted export of Christianity and the humbling of the middle kingdom on the world stage. I wonder however as the Mongol conquest had a non-trivial impact on Chinese genetics(less so on culture) and if some of the aggressiveness of modern china has its roots between the legs of Genkis Khan. Discussing modern china with regard to historical president might not be so useful if this is the case. Bowery is right here(if I am understaning him properly), though its not nice to hear. Increased (unfulfilled) sexual competition leads to an increasingly aggressive society, one of the largest problems in polygamous societies is the \“disposal\” of extra men. In multicultural societies all things being equal Asian men are at the bottom of bag with regard to sexual competitiveness. Bear in mind the one child policy and selective abortion of girls in south east asia is already doing its work in this regard, regardless of multiculturalism though it is possible these men could be absorbed by a more passive route in a monocultural society (not much room for monastic’s in the modern west). On a personal note I have little sympathies with modern china or Chinese nationalists, largely due to the situation in Tibet as well as the aforementioned inflintration. Frankly the stupidity of having Chinese double agents in the west and loosing our manufacturing base is more OUR stupidity than anything else,their character was hardly unknown. 9
Posted by James Bowery on Tue, 17 Apr 2007 01:06 | # Given the tendency to portray white nationalists as white supremacists, I’m loathe to portray Chinese nationalists as the cause of the invasion of Tibet. Clearly my history has been on the side of independence movements and that includes Tibet as well as independence movement within the US that are violated by the US government. The governments of China, Russia and others are rightfully suspicious of independence movements that are not independent of the US or other foreign powers, but they are not justified in opposing the right of self-determination of any people. There is only one “human right” worth of the name and that is the right of self-determination. 10
Posted by Yuezhus on Tue, 17 Apr 2007 02:21 | #
He wasn’t exactly little:
He may be a first generation migrant, for the reasons others have gone into.
Placings in Olympic archery/skeet shooting events makes this unlikely, as does the greater than average visuo spatial ability. What worries me is the possibility of a greater than average ability of NE Asians to temporarily free themselves of empathy and other mental ‘obstacles’, as evidenced by the Mongol Empire, the performance of the 442nd and the worst shooting spree ever to grace the US. I am not saying that NE Asians are naturally immoral, unfeeling psychos; far from it. But I don’t think whites can break down the barriers as fast and acutely as they can.
DNA analysis of modern Han populations doesn’t seem to agree with this hypothesis, but it’s a good question to ask. 11
Posted by James Bowery on Tue, 17 Apr 2007 04:03 | # embraceDeath, with a nuance view of the world such as yours we may look forward to your early demise as you mistake a moving 18 wheeler for a parked 18 wheeler. 12
Posted by Top on Tue, 17 Apr 2007 04:24 | # embraceDeath… let’s just see if the percentage of east Asian dead in this massacre is in the same ball park as the percentage of east Asians at VT before we slam James too much. Let’s see how many racial buddies died by our asian hero. Personally… I am very curious. 13
Posted by Top on Tue, 17 Apr 2007 04:41 | # “And in any case, since you turd-reichers hate Asians as much as you hate Africans, what is the point of this nonsense anyway? “ Any white person who doesn’t get on their knees and begs for mercy, while at the same time promising to give their whole country away is immediately labelled as such. These sort of statements only prove what posters have been saying about asians above. The VT site lists the following demographics: Percentage of white students 69.4% Of course the bottom two categories would hide some of the student racial data. 14
Posted by Desmond Jones on Tue, 17 Apr 2007 04:45 | # According to CNN, one of the victims of the initial domestic killings is male, black. 15
Posted by Desmond Jones on Tue, 17 Apr 2007 05:05 | # BLACKSBURG, United States, April 16 (Xinhua)—No Chinese students have been found among the dozens of victims in Monday’s shooting rampage on the campus of Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University (Virginia Tech), in the eastern U.S. state of Virginia. Ray Wang, a board member of the Association of Chinese Students and Scholars (ACSS) at Virginia Tech, told Xinhua that he was not at the scene of the shootings, but he had contacted quite a number of Chinese students and had so far got no word that Chinese students were injured or killed in the incident. http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2007-04/17/content_5986983.htm 16
Posted by James Bowery on Tue, 17 Apr 2007 05:31 | # Yes… and we can expect utter silence from the likes of this slashdot commentator:
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Posted by Desmond Jones on Tue, 17 Apr 2007 06:00 | # Chicago Sun Times reporting that the shooter was a Chinese national. April 16, 2007 Authorities were investigating whether the gunman who killed 32 people on the Virginia Tech campus in the deadliest shooting rampage in U.S. history was a Chinese man who arrived in the United States last year on a student visa. The 24-year-old man arrived in San Francisco on United Airlines on Aug. 7 on a visa issued in Shanghai, the source said. Investigators have not linked him to any terrorist groups, the source said. http://www.suntimes.com/news/nation/343354,vatech041607.article 19
Posted by Thomas on Tue, 17 Apr 2007 06:29 | # “Association of Chinese Students and Scholars (ACSS) at Virginia Tech” I know the thread is going in a different direction, but these guys are probably a front group for espionage. This Wang prick sounds like he’s in tight with Xinhua. As for Tianamen being due to CIA involvment, in China, I can’t really see how this could be the case. CIA activity regarding China seems to be limited to reading news clippings from the People’s Daily and translating press releases from Mandarin, if that. It seems to me that Tianamen was “housecleaning” pure and simple. And the leadership of the PRC wasn’t shy about letting the rest China or the world know about it. 20
Posted by James Bowery on Tue, 17 Apr 2007 06:54 | # Regardless of whether the CIA was involved in the Tiananmen Square events, it in no way discounts the raciosexual hypothesis. The CIA certainly has enough information to know how to push raciosexual buttons where it needs to do so. The only question is whether it can exert enough control to contain potential conflagrations. It has a history of losing control of its assets. 21
Posted by James Bowery on Tue, 17 Apr 2007 07:07 | # No, Mr. Reading Comprehension: The reference was to the CIA’s involvement in Tianamen Square vs the anti-African protests in the months leading up to it. 22
Posted by VanSpeyk on Tue, 17 Apr 2007 07:27 | # Who is the man in the above picture being arrested? It can’t be the shooter because he killed himself (or was shot by the police). Most likely, I think, is that witnesses described the shooter as a Chinaman and so the police took no risk and booked him. At least I didn’t hear anything about an accomplish or even an arrest so I guess they let him go right after that. 23
Posted by James Bowery on Tue, 17 Apr 2007 07:33 | # Mr. Reading Comprehension does it again: It was not I who posited CIA involvement—it was I who declared it moot to the entire issue. And if raciosexual (the meaning is clear enough given not just the construction itself but my context) phenomena are so meaningless then how is it that I imputed so much correctly about today’s events? Oh, I know… just luck… or maybe you can just deny that I did and call me some name again and tell me how sad you are for my insanity or some horseshit. I find the utter bankruptcy of the opposition somehow comforting although I know Mr. Reading Comprehension is merely a low level zombot. 24
Posted by James Bowery on Tue, 17 Apr 2007 07:35 | # VanSpeyk, AFAIK the man pictured is just a student newspaper reporter who got in the way of police operations. He may have been singled out by the police due to his obvious Asian features based on the ground truth of men who face death: They have to be realistic about things even it means being accused of being “racist”. 25
Posted by Desmond Jones on Tue, 17 Apr 2007 08:16 | # According to police reports there is a second person of interest. 26
Posted by NEC watch on Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:05 | # Is this shooting a “hate crime?” I agree: let’s see the racial distribution of the victims. IF this started over a problem of a “girlfriend” seeing “another man”, we need to know the racial identities of the girlfriend and this “other man.” By the way, given this fine “perfomance” of “asian cognitive elitism” and the fact that racial/cultural incompatibilities may have been behind the massacre, cannot we say that those who promote the migration of “hundreds of thousands of asians” into the USA have some moral responsibility for these killings? 27
Posted by NEC watch on Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:13 | # Consider that the current Chinese (communist) government can be very authoritarian and very efficient in police action when it desires, what to say about that government’s tolerance of/promotion of: 1. Large scale migration of Chinese to other nations. Yes, they are used for spies and as a fifth column, but why didn’t the Soviets have the same idea? Perhaps that ethnocentric Chinese are expected to keep their racial loyalties in the diaspora, while Slavs could not be so trusted? And, perhaps, this is a racial expansionist tactic? 2. Adoption of mostly female Chinese infants/children by westerners (this despite the gender imbalance). 3. Human trafficking in Chinese illegal immigrants to the West. It would seem that the Chinese government, composed of ethnic Han Chinese, are the epitome of hypocritical and vectorist racial phenotypes. Most Chinese nationals living in the USA that I have known are, by the way, strong supporters of China’s government and its policies. See also Derbyshire’s article on “sino-Fascism”, all the more remarkable given his personal life. It seems that the main currents of Chinese “nationalism” are expansionist and hypocritical. 28
Posted by Retew on Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:15 | # Has anyone noticed how many of these outrages occur at the same time of year, i.e. the third week of April? Waco, Columbine, Oklahoma, Port Arthur (Tasmania) and now this. Should give food for thought for those who dismiss out of hand the question of the existence of the New World Order (I keep an open mind about the subject myself). There is apparently a major Satanist festival at around this time, and the leaders of the NWO are supposed to be practising Satanists adept at mind control through knowledge gleaned from the MK Ultra (Mind Kontrolle, note the Germanisation) project. Could all be a coincidence, but as Moot Retew said, one wonders. 29
Posted by NEC watch on Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:16 | # One wonders as well the reaction to this massacre by all the militant white-bashing Asian-“American” websites, journals, blogs, and student organizations. One wonders as well how this will change the racial dynamics - inclding inter-racial dating - at universities with significant Asian populations. Perhaps Birch Barlow should keep an eye on all those angry-looking Chinamen. 30
Posted by NEC watch on Tue, 17 Apr 2007 14:50 | # Perhaps better to interview a Korean “nationalist”: So, not - this time - Chinese (*), but another holy Oriental, another wonderful Northeast Asian “cognitive elitist.” Korea - known as the “Hermit Kingdom” and perhaps the most racially homogenous nation on Earth AND a major source of migrants to America. Ah, yes, another “contribution” of the Asian presence in the USA. We need “hundreds of thousands” more, right? *This is consistent with the shooter’s purported physical size: either because of genetics and/or a more meat-oriented diet, Koreans tend to be physically larger than Chinese, with both genders having more pronounced secondary sexual characteristics compared to other Northeast Asians. 31
Posted by Andy on Tue, 17 Apr 2007 14:50 | # Killer was Korean national: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070417/ap_on_re_us/virginia_tech_shooting 32
Posted by Andy on Tue, 17 Apr 2007 14:52 | # Beat to the punch. Feel free to delete my now thoroughly redundant comments. 33
Posted by VanSpeyk on Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:01 | # Apparently, the perpetrator was not Chinese after all, but a South Korean national who was studying English. “The Virginia Tech Police Department has confirmed the identification of the gunman responsible for the multiple fatalities at Norris Hall on the Virginia Tech campus Monday. Ballistics match at both crime scenes. The individual has been identified as Cho Seung-Hui, 23. Cho was enrolled as an undergraduate student in his senior year as an English major at Virginia Tech. Cho, a South Korean native, was in the U.S. as a resident alien with a residence established in Centerville, Va.” 34
Posted by Kenelm Digby on Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:05 | # James, may I congratulate you in daring to broach a very deep and dare I say it neglected topic that strikes to the very root of EGI. 35
Posted by NEC watch on Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:08 | # http://www.angelfire.com/journal2/uglykorea/notes.html “Kill the big noses.” “Exterminate the foreign dogs and the mixed breed children.” “I can’t wait until all mongrel Americans die of AIDs.” “The Onho controversy, as you will remember had a huge race element not covered by the Korean media and ignored by the handful of foreign journalists who reported on it. But at the time, web sites and Internet bboards were flooded with racist attacks on Ohno¡¯s biracial background. His father was called a “dirty betrayer of Asian people” for having debased himself with a white woman.” Most posters agreed that Ohno’s father should have killed Ohno when he was a baby, which up until very recently was Korea’s way of dealing with “the shame” of mixed-race children…For months, Walker and Nino have been portrayed in effigy as giant hairy beasts with noses big enough to smash boulders with.” 36
Posted by NEC watch on Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:12 | # “James, may I congratulate you in daring to broach a very deep and dare I say it neglected topic that strikes to the very root of EGI.” Yes, let’s protect everyone’s EGI, as well as protect our college campuses, by having racially homogenous nations, and getting the “asian cognitive elitists” where they belong. That way, they won’t have to worry about their women anymore. Good luck though in getting the idea of: if you want raciosexual fairness, you need separation, to the Asians. Their “solution” will be to continue flooding into America, with “fairness” characterized with the society and mass media promoting asian male-white female couplings. 37
Posted by NEC watch on Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:17 | # The shooter has been described as a ‘permanent legal resident’ - note the word ‘permanent’ and note the word ‘legal’ for those obsessed with the ‘illegal’ aspect of illegal immigration, rather than in its alien nature. And, one of the victims seems to have been a Romanian-born Israeli. That’s an error for which the shooter will not be forgiven. 38
Posted by NEC watch on Tue, 17 Apr 2007 17:07 | # http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070417/ap_on_re_us/virginia_tech_shooting How has South Korea reacted? First: “South Korea’s Foreign Ministry expressed its condolences…” Now, if Northeast Asians were really what some here think they are, they would have had the good grace to leave it at that, and not rub salt in the wounds. But, no. thus: “…and said South Korea hoped that the tragedy would not “stir up racial prejudice or confrontation.” Yes, indeed. A Korean kills more than 30 Americans, and the big problem for South Korea is that the incident doesn’t “stir up racial prejudice or confrontation.” Hey now, we can’t have whitey questioning why bizarre aliens such as this: are doing in their country. Can’t have whitey question why a closed ethnocentric “Hermit Kingdom” floods America with their flotsam and jetsam – hey, we just MUST continue these migratory streams. Do think otherwise would be “racial prejudice.” We can’t let whitey get “confrontational” towards the Holy Orientals now, can we? Certainly, we must not have “racial prejudice” against Koreans living in America, while, of course, Koreans in Korea can, with impunity, have anti-white rallies denouncing the “big-nosed devils.” Northeast Asians: outrageously hypocritical vectorists. You’ll probably get more racial sincerity at ADL headquarters. 39
Posted by Pi on Tue, 17 Apr 2007 17:24 | # Xinhua is saying no “Chinese” students among the victims. http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2007-04/17/content_5986983.htm -Pi 40
Posted by NEC watch on Tue, 17 Apr 2007 17:52 | # “Xinhua is saying no “Chinese” students among the victims. http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2007-04/17/content_5986983.htm -Pi” No surprise there. Does the term “negative externalities” ring a bell with respect to alien immigration? The major fear is that the mas media with attempt to cover up a racial motivation, unless of course, they can blame it on “white racism.” 41
Posted by NEC watch on Tue, 17 Apr 2007 18:06 | # http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070417/ap_on_re_us/virginia_tech_shooting “News reports also said that he may have been taking medication for depression, that he was becoming increasingly violent and erratic, and that he left a note in his dorm in which he railed against “rich kids,” “debauchery” and “deceitful charlatans” on campus.” Can we actually read the note itself? “Cho Seung-Hui, a 23-year-old senior, arrived in the United States as boy from South Korea in 1992…” Well assimilated after 15 years, eh? “Rude refused to release any of his writings or his grades, citing privacy laws.” After all, the shooter was really the “victim” here, right? “Citing identified sources, the Tribune said he had recently shown troubling signs, including setting a fire in a dorm room and stalking some women.” A model cognitive elitist. Let’s have several hundred thousand more. Per year. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070417/ap_on_re_as/virginia_tech_skorea I see. A Korean kills 30+ Americans, and yet it are the Koreans in campus who are organizing for self-protection and who think it could be “dangerous.” But of course. Hypocritical vectorists are allowed to racially organize. If the victim group were to do so, it would be “racist” and “confrontational.” Question: are any of these “group gathering” Korean students armed? Would it be “racist” for the school authorities to “confront” these Koreans to make sure they are not planning any more massacres? 42
Posted by NEC watch on Tue, 17 Apr 2007 18:10 | # Once again: are the authorities more concerned about protecting Korean students at Virginia Tech from “racial prejudice”, or will they take whatever steps needed to make sure there are no more anti-American attacks planned by Korean students? Did _any_ of these Korean students know the shooter? Did any know in advance about the attack? Will they be questioned, or is that “racist” and “confrontational?” 43
Posted by Andy on Tue, 17 Apr 2007 19:03 | # are the authorities more concerned about protecting Korean students at Virginia Tech from “racial prejudice”, or will they take whatever steps needed to make sure there are no more anti-American attacks planned by Korean students? I’m assuming this question is rhetorical, but I’ll answer it anyway. We all know what the “authorities” are most concerned about when it comes to minority crime. The true extent of black criminality in the United States is routinely suppressed by the MSM. Sadly, I have talked with numerous whites who were shockingly ignorant of the high crime rates that exist in every area with a significant black population. I also share your opinion that those who push multiculturalism (especially those who use deception to do so) are morally culpable when non-white on white crime occurs, like in the VPI killings. 45
Posted by JB on Tue, 17 Apr 2007 19:58 | # following the ‘anti-racist’ logic that the exception disproves the rule this mass murderer would invalidate the assertion that asians don’t commit as much violent crime as whites. 46
Posted by Matra on Tue, 17 Apr 2007 20:25 | # The shooter has been described as a ‘permanent legal resident’ - note the word ‘permanent’ and note the word ‘legal’ for those obsessed with the ‘illegal’ aspect of illegal immigration, rather than in its alien nature. And the last time a foreigner shot up a Virginia campus he was also a legal resident - Nigerian I believe. Then there was the Bosnian Muslim legal resident who shot dead half a dozen people in Salt Lake City a couple of months ago. Then there’s 9/11… Clearly it is the “alien nature” that matters more than legality but neocons like JPod are already breathing a sigh of relief that he wasn’t illegal as they know it would have provided a huge boost to the anti-illegal movement. They apparently feel confident enough in the American public’s lack of interest in legal invaders to play up the foreigner’s legal status. Yet at the same time some neocon Jews are wiping the sweat from their brows about his legal status they are also dropping hints about the killer’s letter allegedly signed “Ismael X”. Surely they are unconscious of how blatantly ethnocentric they appear or they would disguise it better. Perhaps the failure of Americans to notice Jewish ethnocentrism has lulled them into a false sense of security. 48
Posted by gtr06 on Tue, 17 Apr 2007 20:57 | # I think is a good example not to stereotype Chinese people. China is a vast country which use to include Korea and the actions of one clearly do not reflect the action of others. To mass up all Chinese as “nationalist” or something racist is ignorant rantings of someone who has not studied someone elses culture. America has done the Chinese more wrong than the Chinese has done America, look at the history of America and Canada’s railway building and you can see the Chinese were used for the most dangerous jobs. Chinese people built the railroad so that EUROPEANS and other white settlers could come and take the jobs that they had for decades away from them. 49
Posted by James Bowery on Tue, 17 Apr 2007 21:25 | # The Chinese laborers were not much different from the African laborers—in both cases the elites of Africa and China basically enslaved their own people. All the labor or African and Chinese laborers could have, and indeed should have, been performed by yeomen laborers—and there were wars over precisely this issue to stop the importation of laborers from Africa and China. The Preamble of the Constitution is still the Supreme Law of the Land and it states that the entire purpose of the social contract known as the United States of America is to secure the blessings of liberty for the posterity of the people who fought the Revolutionary War. That’s it. Its not just a “racist” document, it is nepotistic. The people who imported laborers from Africa and China were in violation of the supreme law of the land and should have been deported to China and Africa along with their slaves. The same thing applies to everyone who is importing laborers today. 50
Posted by Matra on Tue, 17 Apr 2007 21:46 | # Chinese immigration wasn’t exactly good for Canada - particularly its working class. Look at this thread. 51
Posted by Desmond Jones on Tue, 17 Apr 2007 21:51 | # Chinese people built the railroad so that EUROPEANS and other white settlers could come and take the jobs that they had for decades away from them. Who did the Chinese steal jobs from? The BC salmon?
The Chinese who came to Canada and the US never had it so good.
Ed Rubinstein:
The Chinese diaspora should kiss the treacherous European elites Royal Americans and thank heaven they even reside in North America. http://www.immigrationwatchcanada.org/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=546 http://www.vdare.com/rubenstein/061102_nd.htm http://www.immigrationwatchcanada.org/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=420 52
Posted by Matra on Tue, 17 Apr 2007 22:15 | # A good letter to L Auster by Mark J: Your correspondant “A reader” noted: “East Asians have the rare distinction of making America safer by being here, in regards to run of the mill violent crime. According to Jared Taylor’s Color of Crime report, Asians commit violent crime at a rate of half to three quarters of the white rate.” This illustrates the fallacy of making arguments about immigration based on crime rates and so on. The bottom line is that my people—my extended family—need a place to live on this earth just for ourselves. It doesn’t matter where we fall on the crime or competency scale of all of the peoples on earth. Our existence as a people is what matters. That is the purpose of our country. That is the purpose of our society and culture—they are tools for furthering the well-being of our people. Those who are not our people do not belong here, period, regardless of whether they commit more or less crime. The only people who should be allowed to live, work, and raise families in our people’s land are our people, and those select foreigners who are capable of, and committed to, completely assimilating into our people. They should literally be indistinguishable from any of us. And for that to happen they need to be of European ethnic heritage, be Christian or Christian-friendly agnostics, speak English, and be capitalists and value free markets and individual liberty (including free speech, free association, and gun rights). These are my (our) people. No one else has any business living and working in our people’s country (tourists and businessmen excepted).
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Posted by GT on Tue, 17 Apr 2007 22:30 | # The American media is “updating” its news reports. Disappearing are suggestions that Cho Seung-Hui may have once been romantically involved with Emily Hilscher. Perceptive individuals may have noticed peculiarities in Emily’s appearance suggesting jewish ancestry. New AP photos of Emily’s boytoy and second victim Clark now have a flattering, near-harmless Bill Cosby-like appearance. At this point victim profiles from the spree at the engineering building are predominantly non-White and include several of “middle-eastern” surname and appearance. Contrast this with the many photos of White interviewees and mourners. The words “Ismail’s Ax” were tattooed upon Cho’s arm. According to Google the Koran says Ismail was the beloved son of Ibrahim, a prophet of Allah who destroyed idols with an axe. This suggests that Cho, the axe of Ismail, was in the business of completing Ibrahim’s unfinished work by destroying the idol worshippers. Cho’s note was “very disturbing,” according to reports. Yet quotes from the note - charlatans, debauchery, rich kids - are quite “cookie cutter” in nature. Cho may have been jew-wise and the American media could be downplaying a jewish connection that includes faithlessness and interracial sex. 55
Posted by stari_momak on Tue, 17 Apr 2007 23:23 | # Hey GT, do you have links. I have seen one photo from the Rappahanock (sp?) county rag.
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Posted by GT on Wed, 18 Apr 2007 01:51 | # Hector, “That is simply retarded. Really, GT, you are beyond the pale.” Criticizing my grammar, meaning, or politics? 57
Posted by anon on Wed, 18 Apr 2007 02:30 | # Racial fraticide: Mary Karen Read, 19, of Annandale, Va., according to her aunt, Karen Kuppinger, of Rochester, N.Y. She was born in South Korea into an Air Force family and lived in Texas and California before settling in the northern Virginia suburb of Annandale, said Kuppinger. Read considered a handful of colleges, including nearby George Mason University, before choosing Tech. It was a popular destination among her Annandale High School classmates, Kuppinger said. 58
Posted by Desmond Jones on Wed, 18 Apr 2007 02:45 | # GreatAmerican; Chinese people built the railroad so that EUROPEANS and other white settlers could come and take the jobs that they had for decades away from them. This statement, to which the respose was directed, is a lie. Are you suggesting otherwise? Are you saying America was not great, upon its founding? and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, Posterity - descendants: all of the offspring of a given progenitor; “we must secure the benefits of freedom for ourselves and our posterity” Progenitor; “an ancestor in the direct line” Clearly, the preamble supports Mr. Bowery’s position. 59
Posted by JB on Wed, 18 Apr 2007 03:01 | #
and we all know how they will use that, don’t we ? SEE, HE WAS AN ISLAMOFASCIST !!!... BOMB IRAN! BOMB IRAN! IT HAS NOTHING ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE, IT’S ALL BECAUSE OF ISLAM, I-S-L-A-M. SO THAT’S WHY WE HAVE TO BOMB IRAN, GET IT ? 60
Posted by Lurker on Wed, 18 Apr 2007 03:39 | # The real fear (of a backlash) for ethnic interest groups is not an angry mob armed with burning torches and agricultural implements. Its of a legal/political backlash. A simple enforcing and strengthening of immigration controls. The ‘backlash’ hoopla is there to shut down any reasoned debate before that happens. 61
Posted by James Bowery on Wed, 18 Apr 2007 03:41 | # My genetically uplifted version of “GreatAmerican” writes: All men are created equal isn’t consistent with designating proprietary rights to a certain class of people. A reductio ad absurdum to the over-broad interpretation of “equality” is that if two people are “equal” that could imply not only are they clones, but they are the same person. Clearly the operative phrase would be “equal as”—but the question is “equal as” what? For example, the strings “1” and “one” might be equal as numbers but not as character strings. So what did the Framers think all men were created equal as, given the context of the rest of the document and surrounding events? Although there follows the clear term “life”—a virtual tautology coextensive with “created”—in the phrase “life, liberty and pursuit of happiness”, the real take-home message of the DoC is these assertion, starting, appropriately, with the first sentence:
In other words, it isn’t up to you to decide for me whether a government to which I am subject is or should make me “happy” or feel “safe”. It is up to me, in what “shall seem” to me “most likely to effect” those ends. Hence it is clear that the term “equal” means “equal as” sovereign agents of state craft for their own self determination. Now, how does “secure the blessings of liberty… for our posterity” relate to this “equal as” sovereign crafters of states? Clearly the answer is that the Framers, as racist nepotists, saw their happiness and security in the secure liberty of their posterity. Moreover they built in warnings and a self-destruct clause which basically states that when the state they crafted ceases to benefit their posterity, it is right to abolish the state and institute another. Thus the opposition of people like you to the self-determination of men like me to our own territory within which we may live our principles, however morally repugnant, ill advised or indeed “insane” you might think them, is not only a violation of our natural right of sovereignty, but it is clear evidence that the government of the US has been usurped, for it should not be necessary for men like me to secede since we are clearly designated beneficiaries of the state—and we are clearly justified in killing, if necessary, usurpers like you in order to retrieve that state. 62
Posted by Human on Wed, 18 Apr 2007 03:47 | # To the mimicing creature who pretends he is Hector, “Yes. What a moronic generalization you made. Shame on you. Obviously your racial superiority takes a little coaxing to come out.” Our racial superiority is evident to all subhumans capable of envy, and of mimicing emotion and reason in a disingenuous attempt to elevate themselves so that they might steal foodscraps from our table. Humans agree that dogs make better pets, for they solicit food honestly. 63
Posted by GT on Wed, 18 Apr 2007 04:08 | # JB, “and we all know how they will use that, don’t we ? SEE, HE WAS AN ISLAMOFASCIST !!!… BOMB IRAN! BOMB IRAN!” Why are you screaming? Fact is fact. “Ismail’s Ax” was tattooed on Cho’s arm. Cho was a lawful immigrant. Jews won’t address the tattoo for long because Cho is first and foremostly a non-White, and his presence among our diminishing but still sizable White population is good for jews. The Romanian-Israeli professor is a different matter. We’ll hear about him for a while, simply because it is an opportunity to mention the Holyhoax. 64
Posted by JB on Wed, 18 Apr 2007 04:44 | # I can’t find anything on CNN’s website about that “Ismail’s Ax” tattoo. Can someone post a link ? 65
Posted by JB on Wed, 18 Apr 2007 04:45 | # perhaps this news should be in another thread, moderators should feel free to start a thread and cut & paste this :
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21554083-2703,00.html Milan Chinese riot over traffic fine MILAN: Italian riot police clashed with hundreds of Chinese merchants in Milan yesterday, after scuffles broke out over traffic controls in the city’s busy Chinatown. Officials said 14 police were injured and two cars destroyed as protesters threw plastic bottles and rubbish bins at police armed with batons. It was not clear how many protesters were injured, but television footage showed several wounded. Waving Chinese flags and placards reading “Stop violence and abuse against the Chinese community”, at least 400 merchants and residents later staged a sit-in on the neighbourhood’s main street, bringing traffic to a standstill. “You just want to send away the Chinese population,” one protester shouted at a police officer. “Where is Italy’s humanity?” Officials said the protest started when traffic police, who want to tighten control of commercial traffic in the area of wholesale clothing stores, fined a driver and took away his licence because he was carrying merchant goods in a private car. “It is not right for a violation of road regulations to cause this,” Milan Mayor Letizia Moratti said. Protesters complained of police violence. Some said one had been hit with the butt of a pistol. Milan’s Deputy Mayor denied this. Residents have repeatedly complained about the noise and traffic, urging city officials to find a more suitable location for the wholesale distributors. The outburst sparked reaction from some political groups, who called for tougher controls on immigration. “We have seen the first real revolt by foreigners. If it continues they will do whatever they want and put into place the laws they want,” outspoken right-wing Northern League senator Roberto Calderoli said in a statement. Reuters
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Posted by JB on Wed, 18 Apr 2007 04:46 | # more pictures here: http://ilikeyourstyle.net/index.php/2007/04/13/emeute-chinoise-a-milan/ 67
Posted by JB on Wed, 18 Apr 2007 04:59 | # a racial organization is asking journalists not to mention the race of the Virginia Tech mass murderer: Press Release: Asian American Journalists Association Contact: Janice Lee, 415-346-2051, .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) Like the rest of the nation, we at the Asian American Journalists Association (AAJA) are stunned at the news of today’s shooting at Virginia Tech. Our thoughts are with the victims and their families and friends as they cope with this horrific incident. As coverage of the Virginia Tech shooting continues to unfold, AAJA urges all media to avoid using racial identifiers unless there is a compelling or germane reason. There is no evidence at this early point that the race or ethnicity of the suspected gunman has anything to do with the incident, and to include such mention serves only to unfairly portray an entire people. The effect of mentioning race can be powerfully harmful. It can subject people to unfair treatment based simply on skin color and heritage. We further remind members of the media that the standards of news reporting should be universal and applied equally no matter the platform or medium, including blogs. We at AAJA, representing approximately 2,000 reporters, editors, photographers and executives in the industry, encourage journalists to refer to style and reference books, both within their own shop as well as AAJA’s at http://www.aaja.org/resources/apa_handbook/ We also invite those with concerns or questions to contact AAJA as a resource for issues of fair and accurate coverage of Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders. AAJA’s national office is at (415) 346-2051, .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address), http://www.aaja.org. About AAJA The Asian American Journalists Association is a non-profit professional and educational organization with approximately 2,000 members across the United States and in Asia. Founded in 1981, AAJA has been at the forefront of change in the journalism industry. AAJA’s mission is to encourage Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders (AAPIs) to enter the ranks of journalism, to work for fair and accurate coverage of AAPIs, and to increase the number of AAPI journalists and news managers in the industry. AAJA is an alliance partner in UNITY Journalists of Color, along with the Native American Journalists Association, National Association of Hispanic Journalists, and National Association of Black Journalists. For more information, visit http://www.aaja.org 68
Posted by GT on Wed, 18 Apr 2007 06:36 | # “An enigma already, Cho and his decision to kill and die became more perplexing when investigators found these words scrawled in red ink on one of his arms: “Ismail Ax.” The meaning is, almost fittingly, unclear.” 69
Posted by GT on Wed, 18 Apr 2007 06:46 | # Sources told the Tribune that the words “ISMAIL AX” were also found written in red ink on the inside of one of Cho’s arms. Abraham uses a knife in most versions of the story, but some accounts have him wielding an axe. A more obscure reference may be to a passage in the Koran referring to Abraham’s destruction of pagan idols; in some accounts, he uses an axe to do so. 70
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Posted by GT on Wed, 18 Apr 2007 07:13 | # According to Hilscher’s roommate, there was no relationship beween Cho and Hilscher Cho may have been infatuated with and stalking Emily HIlscher Student recalls day when roommate was killed at dorm “I’ve never seen him,” she said. “I don’t know his name. Emily didn’t know him, as far as I know.” Haugh said that speculation that the killing spree was triggered by a domestic dispute likely stemmed from the fact that Hilscher’s boyfriend was an avid gun user. She said that when she was first questioned by police, “they asked if her boyfriend had a gun or something.” She said she told the authorities that the boyfriend, Karl Thornhill, did have guns and that she and Hilscher had gone to a shooting range with him just a few weeks earlier. But she said she also told police that Hilscher and Thornhill got along well. “The police asked if they had any problems, and they definitely don’t,” Haugh said. “He’s just torn apart by all this. He’s not a violent person at all.” Haugh’s account helps to fill some gaps in the events at Virginia Tech—in particular why police may have thought they had the situation under control—but it leaves other gaping holes, including why Hilscher was one of the first victims and what Cho’s motive was. 72
Posted by Maguire on Wed, 18 Apr 2007 13:30 | # GT, There are some practical forward looking questions we should examine. 1. What is the actual value of ‘education’ in the social maelstrom of the modern Amerkwan ‘university’? How much true learning is even possible in such environments? 2. Should whites continue to participate in these aptly named ‘institutions’? Is the potential value offered worth incurring usury interest debt on the part of parents or students? Is it worth the personal risks? 3. What alternatives exist or can we develop for real learning? Maguire ps I’ve concluded the “university as whorehouse” campus culture is consciously fostered to entice young people into paying the excessive prices of the typically sub-standard and useless ‘education’ now offered. 73
Posted by NEC watch on Wed, 18 Apr 2007 13:35 | # Let’s see where we are here. In response to this massacre, the government of South Korea admonishes us not to have “racial prejudice” or “confrontation” against their precious diaspora co-ethnics in the USA. Koreans on the Virginia Tech campus are “organizing” against a non-existent “danger”, while the real danger there was from an armed, hateful Korean. The AAJA - a racial ethnocentric organization -says that we must censor our thoughts and not consider the race of the shooter. And, then we are shown pictures of “the Chinese community” in Milan rioting “for their rights” and trying to provoke racial guilt by asking the Italians about their “humanity.” Does any of this sound familiar? Jews? Blacks? There are some on the ‘right’ (defined in the MR sense) who have, it seems, an apparent view of East Asians. They are wrong. The reality is the opinion of Svigor: Indeed. East Asians are _exactly_ like Jews - their behavior in their homelands is Israeli-like, while their behavior in other peoples’ homelands is diaspora-Jewish-like, promoting the most obviously hypocritical vectorism and “racial politics.” And American-born “Asian-Americans” tend to be leftist in their politics in a resentful, anti-majoritorian manner. VDARE had some articles on the Asian voting patterns. East Asians, and the Chinese in particular, are unable to comprehend that other peoples have rights - even other peoples in their own homelands. This is a crucial point, and the Milan incident illustrates this perfectly. To the Chinese, Italians living in Italy have NO rights, but the “Chinese community” there does. White Americans in the USA have NO rights, NO legitimate interests, but the “Chinese community” does. Englishmen in England have NO rights or interests, but the “Chinese community” in England does. You get the drift. Of course, one could imagine the Chinese reaction if a bunch of Italians in Shanghai started rioting for their “rights”, waving around Italian flags, and assaulting police. They’d be finished in minutes - and the _Chinese_ would have rioted, and maybe destroyed the Italian embassy, with the tacit approval of the government. BTW, East Asian vectorism deals not only with people, but disease - influenza, SARS, you name it. Of course, during the SARS epidemic, those wonderful East Asians were calling restrictions over travel “racist.” 74
Posted by Yuezhus on Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:25 | # Here are some of his plays that he wrote prior to the massacre. You can spot the psychopathy a mile off, and evidence of child abuse too. I think international pressure needs to be put on South Korea to seriously evaluate its view of non-Koreans. As NEC Watch pointed out, non-Korean chauvinism is prevalent and potent there, even among the police in some cases, and I can’t believe that the government is unaware of it. In all likelihood they believe similar things. Many people still practice shamanism, for christ’s sake. Ethnocentricism is fine and healthy, but arrogant, malicious, barbaric and hypocritical behavior towards even non-Koreans, even tourists, has had morbid repercussions outside of the peninsula. Cho moved to the US when he was 8; that’s 8 years of exposure to anti-Korean chauvinism and arrogance. No doubt other first generation Koreans in the US have been raised similarly, and that can’t be healthy. Even homogeneous ethnostates usually admit foreign students into their universities, and Korea probably needs access to such places so its smart fraction can live up to its potential, but now universities may think twice about admitting potential psychopaths in their midst. Basically, they need to get their f***ing act together.
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Posted by James Bowery on Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:51 | # NEC watch, the vectorism of diaspora communities is pretty well established, although your ongoing efforts in this area are appreciated. However I still think you may benefit from a more nuance view of the non-diaspora populations of both the East and the Middle East. As I have previously, and recently, discussed here in MR, there are, relatively honest Oslo Accord Israelis who went so far as to give up control of the Gaza Strip—not the least of which was the much-maligned and late Sharon and Sharon was a Likud! I’m far from one to defend the AIPAC’s Likud influence on the US, but it is crucial to understand that there are Israeli Jews, who are sincere. Likewise I don’t doubt that there are Chinese nationalists who would respect Tibetan nationalism, for example. Identifying and negotiating with these people should be a priority for us. They are the representatives of the legitimate interests of their people—not the vectorists who really are subhuman and without any rights save those we might reserve for rabid animals. Also, there is an important difference even between legitimate Jewish nationalists and legitimate Chinese nationalists: The Chinese nationalists have not been put through the selective pressure for vectorism that the Jews have. They simply have fewer “issues to resolve” and due to the historic continuity of China’s territorial boundary are to be put under correspondingly less stringent tests for similar access. Jews have issues with vectorism and any Jew worth dealing with will, like a member of an alcoholic or drug addict family, readily admit this condition of his ethny as a starting point (12 steps?) to getting on with joining the “family” of human ethnies. 76
Posted by JB on Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:56 | # weird… http://search.cnn.com/pages/search.jsp?query=Ismail Ax http://search.cnn.com/pages/search.jsp?query=Ismail http://search.cnn.com/pages/search.jsp?query=Cho Seung-Hui Ismail
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Posted by Guessedworker on Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:40 | # Maguire: What alternatives exist or can we develop for real learning? With inter-active VR software of the kind developed by Linden Lab and others a genuine university of the internet, right down to VR lecture rooms and personal tuition, could theoretically be developed. The possibilities are there to be explored and, taken together, offer a substantial withdrawal from the socio-political dominion. I hope that our mutual friend will enter into some serious discussion with certain MRers about this, though my ineffable technical disability disqualifies me from acting in any other way than as an interested bystander. No, make that extremely interested bystander. And occasional cheerleader. 78
Posted by NEC watch on Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:25 | # “However I still think you may benefit from a more nuance view of the non-diaspora populations of both the East and the Middle East. “ Fair enough. My aim though is to attempt to counter-act the northeastasiaphilia that exists in some areas, including on the ‘right.’ No doubt that some sincere Chinese nationalists exists, likely with the same rarity as sincere Jewish nationalists. In any case, this could, in theory, be determined empirically. Let MR - or at least James Bowery - make an effort to identify at least one sincere Chinese nationalist for discussion, and if this person is indeed sincere (if that could be positively identified), perhaps this person could explain the oriental attitudes toward nationalism and the golden rule. I’ve yet to encounter any East Asian who is capable of comprehending the notion that any group other than their own has any rights whatsoever - even ethnic groups living in their own homelands. 79
Posted by Maguire on Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:43 | # G-W “With inter-active VR software of the kind developed by Linden Lab and others a genuine university of the internet…” “...offer a substantial withdrawal from the socio-political dominion.” There are two separate issues here which no one should confuse. The first and most important issue is the accessibility, cost and quality of honest to God higher learning for young whites, and especially white males. The Institutionalized Marxist academy of this era fails us by all three criteria. Meanwhile “home-schooling” has demonstrated the capacity to provide superior educations through ‘high school’ for fractional costs. It’s clearly time to take this a step further. The second issue is obtaining minimum required credentialing and state licensing needed for actual practice in certain fields. And/or identifying enterprise structures that can minimize and bypass these requirements. The long term value of the ‘brand’ will be determined by the quality of the product, not vice versa. What we presently have is a lemming movement to ‘colleges’ that frequently are nothing more than over-priced diploma mills. The ‘products’ are over paid faculty, a social milieu that most bordellos won’t tolerate and a diploma that mainly signifies a lot of usury interest debt somewhere to pay for it all. Maybe we should acquire some low priced and primarily distance learning based diploma mills and build on that? -M- 80
Posted by Desmond Jones on Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:23 | # According to Hilscher’s roommate, there was no relationship beween Cho and Hilscher Although contradictory, this site suggests Hilscher was seeing Cho, if only briefly. 81
Posted by GT on Wed, 18 Apr 2007 20:01 | # Maguire, “I’ve concluded the “university as whorehouse” campus culture is consciously fostered to entice young people into paying the excessive prices of the typically sub-standard and useless ‘education’ now offered.” It is consciously fostered. Where it concerns academic progress and behavior 18 year-olds are conveniently treated as adults, with legalities and policies cited to justify maintaining parental ignorance. Except when such progress and behavior results in damage to the ‘community’ – that is, damage the school is unable or unwilling to cover or recover from the child. At such time parental involvement is expected, again with legalities and policies conveniently cited if necessary. 82
Posted by GT on Wed, 18 Apr 2007 20:22 | # I’m busy today, but would like to add the following: 1. For undergraduates the return on a Bachelor is falling with the supply of grads exceeding demand. At the graduate level the return on a Master is greater than a PhD when lost wages for the additional years of ‘learning’ are considered. 2. In class students are considered to be information receptacles, critical thought is constrained within politically acceptable boundaries, and outside the box thinking is discouraged. “A liberal education” is code for equalitarian brainwashing. Parents and alumni, ignorant of the change in meaning but cognizant of a certain consistency in the institution’s form, tend to believe all is well. When the unusual is noted parents and alumni are inundated with educationist gobbledygoop, which masks what is really happening, results in an inward shrug and discourages further questioning. 3. Excluding “animal house,” cost and accessibility factors the above suggests that something better for non-science and non-engineering education is required for our people. 83
Posted by Steven Palese on Wed, 18 Apr 2007 20:37 | # Declaration of Indipendence: All men are created equal. Constitution: For ourselves and our posterity.
Now, I know these are two separate documents, but don’t you think there is room for doubt about your interpretation of “posterity” here? “ First, how exactly did the Declaration rise to have equal status with the Constitution? Second, there is no inconsistency. If all men are equal then all men have a right to enjoy the house they build. Therefore, since whites do not have a right to colonize Singapore or other societies built by the Chinese, it simply follows that for “all men to be equal” the Chinese do not have a right to colonize societies built by whites. Thus, current immigration policies violate the letter and spirit of both documents. 84
Posted by Steven Palese on Wed, 18 Apr 2007 20:59 | # Maguire, The majority of academics are in active violation of the establishment clause (church-state separation). They are therefore liable and will (one day) be made to refund an entire generation of students. If, despite their 100k a year salaries, they do not posses enough assets to pay damages, we will have to reintroduce debt prisons where they can work their debt off. Political Correctness is a religion, i.e. a structured belief system based on faith. A religion need not have a god, although Political Correctness appears to have one. Its god is Hitler, an altogether evil god that is despised by its followers. In this respect Political Correctness is similar to the Aztec religions whose evil gods had to be appeased with constant human sacrifice. The evil god Hitler needs to be kept at bay with constant discrimination against whites. The doctrine of Political Correctness measures everything against this god, the evil Adolf Hitler. In this religion, everything that Hitler believed in is evil, and everything that he opposed is good. This belief system condenses to two doctrines: * Non-white minorities are to be worshipped in the morning And is based on this one cardinal faith: Whites are oppressors; therefore whites deserve discrimination and racism to redress the imbalance. This faith is in turn sustained and legitimised by three anti-white racial theories: 1. The Unique History of White Evil theory The Unique History of White Evil Theory This racial theory holds that “whites cannot evade history”. It is a racial theory because it justifies discrimination against a group based on their (Euro-Christian) ancestry alone irrespective of actual participation or consent (in slavery, holocaust, etc.) and therefore denies innocence as a defense. The Unearned White Skin-color Privilege Theory This racial theory holds that “whites cannot evade responsibility”. It is a racial theory because it justifies discrimination against individuals based on their (Euro-Christian) ancestry alone irrespective of actual status or financial condition and therefore denies innocence as a defense. The White Majority Deference Theory This racial theory holds that “majorities must serve minorities unless the minority is white”. It is a racial theory because its discriminatory logic applies exclusively to whites. For example, suggesting the reverse, that white minorities in South Africa or Detroit should have not equal but superior rights is widely considered insane. 85
Posted by Andy Wooster on Thu, 19 Apr 2007 01:40 | # So like the Koreans mentioned by NEC watch who are worried about a ‘racist’ backlash Auster zooms in on what really matters. This is really unbelievable: http://inverted-world.com/index.php/news/news/another_eagle_eyed_white_nationalist_finds_me_out/ Read the whole thread. Note how “The Realist” and Auster pile on Taylor. Wow. 86
Posted by Andy Wooster on Thu, 19 Apr 2007 01:45 | # There’s a corresponding post on Auster’s site. 87
Posted by Lurker on Thu, 19 Apr 2007 03:29 | # Pretty sure I posted something on this thread. Whats going on? 88
Posted by cladrastis on Thu, 19 Apr 2007 05:24 | # “It is a racial theory because it justifies discrimination against individuals based on their (Euro-Christian) ancestry…” Claiming Euro-Christian ancestry is about as absurd as claiming Euro-Nazi or Euro-Holocaust ancestry, is it not? European will suffice. 89
Posted by Steven Palese on Thu, 19 Apr 2007 06:20 | # Ciao AMERICAN, hai sbagliato. Il problema non e’ che non siamo Americani, il problema e’ che siamo bianchi. Those hostile toward Italian origins are the pro-minority chauvinists that make up the gramscian racial extortion coalition. They screech for more non-white immigration so there can be more affirmative action discrimination in education + Capisci? 90
Posted by James Bowery on Thu, 19 Apr 2007 06:33 | # Lurker asked: Pretty sure I posted something on this thread. Whats going on? My mistake, Lurker. Post again. 91
Posted by Guessedworker on Thu, 19 Apr 2007 08:43 | # Steven, “American” is “Hector” is “Embrace Death”, is “Guessdworker”, is “Scroobs” is a whole host of troll postings. He is banned and his offerings will be removed as we see fit. 92
Posted by Lurker on Thu, 19 Apr 2007 09:57 | # No worries, I was only replying to the troll anyway. 93
Posted by Maguire on Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:57 | # To Daniel J., I read Gary North’s two articles. They’re fine broad brush overviews. But not very leading edge or focused. North would have done better had he focused on showing how to synchronize “calling”, “education” and “business”. He highlighted the fact these legs are often anti-thetical today. How to unify them to support a stable tripod is the question. To Steven Palese, “The majority of academics are in active violation of the establishment clause (church-state separation).” The State has set up a State religion with several subordinate creeds. This religion is Jewish Supremacism symbolized by Holocaustianity. For the Jews there are the various permutations of Judaism. For the goyim there are two primary choices. These are biological sexual degeneracy (feminist-homophilic) known as Marxism. “Christian Zionist” Marxism is provided as an alterative for those whose sexual instincts aren’t totally depraved. The main agencies of Inquisition are the ADL and its media defamation operations, assisted by the IRS. To GT “3. Excluding “animal house,” cost and accessibility factors the above suggests that something better for non-science and non-engineering education is required for our people.” The source materials for a classical liberal education are freely available over the internet. The more difficult problem are disciplines that can’t be conducted solely via textbooks and youtube style lecture vids. Think of true laboratory based physics, chemistry, biology and the array of technical trades and engineeering disciplines. Distance learning and internet resources can go a long way. We have to figure out how to close the remaining hardware gaps. In the case of high school ‘lab’ we have to go far beyond replicating the current public school nerf ball standards. The high school I graduated from in the 1970s would today undoubtedly be a target for a combined BATF/EPA raid with Delta Force backup. The JROTC arms room held over 300 M-14s, many with full auto selector switches. The chemistry lab would have served a terrorist cell well for equipment and chemicals. The “shop” facilities had enough metal working machinery to serve as a small arsenal in a pinch. The Duke & Va Tech episodes have made one thing very clear to growing numbers of whites: the modern Judaeo Marxist college is no place for whites. 94
Posted by TruthShallPrevail on Thu, 19 Apr 2007 15:35 | # The southernsass site that says that they talked to people who say Emily was involved with Cho is not credible. Those women never have been never will be. The legitimate crime bloggers shunned these two from their community ages ago. Don’t believe anything they say over there. They couldn’t find a fact if it bit them in the butt! One of their best buddies is a pedophile named Brian Kastel. That should tell you everything you need to know about the lovely *hack* ladies who blog at that site and think that they know more about Emily than her friends. If they say they talked to 7-students they most likely swiped garbage from7 random MySpace profiles. It’s all about the hits for them because they usually only get about 50 readers a day and now they’re getting about 1000 a day. That’s a pretty significant jump for a couple of twits who usually have barely an audience. http://extremetracking.com/open;unique?login=magz47 95
Posted by GT on Thu, 19 Apr 2007 19:07 | # Maguire, “The source materials for a classical liberal education are freely available over the internet.” We can devise classical K-12 and Voc/A.S.-level curriculum for local (single- and multi-family) and distance learners. Non-tech MR-types and others can participate without fear of public exposure. “The more difficult problem are disciplines that can’t be conducted solely via textbooks and youtube style lecture vids. Think of true laboratory based physics, chemistry, biology and the array of technical trades and engineeering disciplines.” Suggestions: 1. Equipment and supply lists for A.S./Vocational lab requirements can be made available on the Internet. 96
Posted by GT on Thu, 19 Apr 2007 19:30 | # Attention software types! It would be nice to have our very own CAD and PCB design software: http://www.101science.com/Radio.htm#PCB Design Can it be done? Can a development team be assembled? 97
Posted by James Bowery on Thu, 19 Apr 2007 19:54 | # The money normally spent on an education is sufficient to set up most young men with debt-free ownership of a house, land, tools and skills sufficient to produce all of life’s essentials for a family. I think it is perhaps one of the greatest betrayals of our young men that we let them become of marriageable age without the debt-free possession of these assets. 98
Posted by GT on Thu, 19 Apr 2007 20:11 | # Good Secondary, A.S., and Vocational material below. Not copyrighted. Your taxes paid for it, you own it. Download and transfer to CDs. Use them to build a White nationalist secondary and Vocational/A.S.-level science curriculum. Army Engineer Manuals (Much Hydroelectric Info, here): Army Technical Manuals: Department of Energy: Mathematics Volume 1 of 2 (206 pages) US Navy: Navy Electrical and Electronics Training Series (N.E.E.T.S.) 99
Posted by GT on Thu, 19 Apr 2007 20:36 | # Instructing the Instructor, below: Guide to Good Practices for Developing Learning Objectives (48 pages) 100
Posted by GT on Thu, 19 Apr 2007 21:12 | # JB, “I think it is perhaps one of the greatest betrayals of our young men that we let them become of marriageable age without the debt-free possession of these assets. [debt-free ownership of a house, land, tools and skills sufficient to produce all of life’s essentials for a family]” I couldn’t agree more. We have the resources, knowledge and skills to turn much of this around. The question is, why haven’t we? Virginia Tech failed to inform Asian killer Cho’s parents of his “disturbing” behavior prior to the shootings. I personally know parents of a child who suffered a collapsed lung and had to await the child’s partial recovery before being informed - by the child, himself - that he had been in the hospital. Can we always depend upon our children to inform us of their behavior, or of the “animal house” conditions tolerated if not subtly encouraged within the university’ “learning environment?” The Privacy Act cited by colleges to justify maintaining parental ignorance will not be overturned. Expect to see additional university ‘Nanny State’ policies targeting males - especially, White males. 101
Posted by Maguire on Thu, 19 Apr 2007 21:24 | # GT, Listings of free and semi to full function shareware 2D/3D CAD and PCB design programs are available here: http://www.freebyte.com/cad/cad.htm#2D3DCADSystems. M 102
Posted by Maguire on Thu, 19 Apr 2007 21:34 | # To James Bowery, “The money normally spent on an education is sufficient to set up most young men with debt-free ownership of a house, land, tools and skills sufficient to produce all of life’s essentials for a family.” An excellent definition of the material goal of a useful “education” and successful ‘parenting’. The ‘moral’ goal would be to put it to effective use for the future grandkids. M 103
Posted by Maguire on Fri, 20 Apr 2007 01:35 | # To Svyatoslav Igorevich, “Maybe looking into print on demand would be a good idea?” I already have, and it is. “You know, those machines they’re making now for bookstores?” Yes. Xerox “Docu-Tech” and comparable. Quite a few companies provide print-on-demand services, including drop shipping to customers. The key capital cost is paying for ISBN # registration. Owning that number is the practical definition of ‘publisher’. One of the companies I looked at mentioned their average print run is 1.8 books. Preparing and supplying a formatted file is not difficult assuming you have a publishable text. In the case of public domain technical materials that G.T. listed, the purpose would be to offer printed copies at lower cost than a computer printer’s consumables. Offering lower cost copies of over-priced public domain US Government Printing Office and National Technical Information Service publications are another example. Everything offered by those two sources is overpriced. This leaves establishing marketing channels to promote the ‘list’ and setting up an eCommerce front end to process orders. It’s easy to become a listed Amazon seller, too. Maguire 104
Posted by Steven Palese on Fri, 20 Apr 2007 05:14 | # Ok let’s see if I get this straight. I should support the pro-minority chauvinists that make up the racial extortion coalition. They screech for more immigration and open borders to gain greater demographic power. This power they use to ensure there’s: More affirmative action discrimination in education; ..being slammed onto the backs of my kids for being white and only for being white. And the reason I should support their demonstrable race hatred toward my family is? Drumroll….... Because, deep within the hidden labyrinths of majorityrights there is an evil anti-Italian conspiracy! So what’s new? At my anti-Polish meeting this morning we decided to reduce our efforts against the Dutch in order to reinforce the Basques. Part of our agreement with the Austrians involved using the Basques against the British. So we’ll get to them. But I won’t have proper confirmation until after the anti-Latvian meeting this evening. So don’t worry it’s all under control. Except for one thing. The islamofascist satellite network that’s beaming anti-semitic rays into our minds. That’s one problem that we haven’t quite solved yet. So hold onto your tinfoil hat for now. Also, watch out for nazi-trained gerbils. They’ve been following me around for quite some time now and I’m beginning to suspect the antisemites are plotting something. 105
Posted by Anti-Anti-Human on Fri, 20 Apr 2007 07:46 | # “I do, Indeed, Scrooby, have quarrels here.” Fellow Humans, should anti-Humans who deny us free association, self-determination, and sovereignty be trusted with border enforcement? More to the point… Should anti-Humans hoping to perpetuate our bonds by calling us “White supremacists” and “haters” be given the respect due a loyal dog, much less a man? 106
Posted by GT on Fri, 20 Apr 2007 21:09 | # Questions: 1. How many Chinese and Korean students were in the building where Cho carried out the killings? The only Chinese among South Korean Cho’s victims was the Americanized Henry J. Lee. Pic of Henry J. Lee:
“At last year’s graduation ceremony, Henh Ly spoke to his William Fleming classmates. “He was born in China as Henh P. Ly, and his parents came to the United States when he was in elementary school, said Susan Lewyer Willis, the principal at William Fleming High School. She said he changed his name to Henry Lee when he became a citizen last year.” “Born Henh Ly, the 20-year-old Roanoke, Va., first-year student majoring in computer engineering was ecstatic to earn his U.S. citizenship in 1999. It was then that he changed his name to Henry Lee, The New York Times reported. “He had enough advanced-placement credits to be considered a sophomore at Virginia Tech. His family emigrated from China by way of Vietnam, and when Lee first arrived in the States as an elementary school student, he couldn’t speak English, according to the Times.” ————— Cho may have had a speech impediment. Throughout middle and secondary school he was ridiculed for his speech. Despite a possible speech impediment Cho was not a slacker – his major was English. “‘‘There were just some people who were really mean to him and they would push him down and laugh at him,’’ Chris Davids, a Virginia Tech senior who graduated with Cho from Westfield High School in Chantilly, Va., in 2003, told the Associated Press yesterday. ‘‘He didn’t speak English really well and they would really make fun of him.’’ “Another student who attended middle school, high school, and Virginia Tech with Cho, Regan Wilder, 21, said that on the few occasions her taciturn classmate spoke, it was in ‘‘a real low mutter, like a whisper.’’ “She recalled an advanced-placement Spanish class in which students were assigned to tape themselves speaking. Classmates were eager to hear Cho’s tape because they were curious to hear his voice. The teacher told them only that Cho completed the assignment, Wilder said. “Wilder also recalled that Chantilly teachers had tried to draw him out in class, but Cho ‘‘would only shrug his shoulders, or he’d give like two-word responses, and I think it just got to the point where teachers just gave up.’’ “That pattern seems to have intensified at Virginia Tech. “‘‘He was like a ghost. He was just quiet,’’ said Marilyn Duncan, who had an English class with Cho this year and heard him say only one word the entire semester, during roll call on the first day. ‘‘He said ‘Seung,’ and that’s it.’’” ————— Cho compared his sufferings to Jesus Christ. More about teasing revealed. Two victims were graduates of Cho’s high school. ”Classmates in Virginia, where Cho grew up, said he was teased and picked on, apparently because of shyness and his strange, mumbly way of speaking. ”Once, in English class at Westfield High School in Chantilly, Virginia, when the teacher had the students read aloud, Cho looked down when it was his turn, said Chris Davids, a Virginia Tech senior and high school classmate. After the teacher threatened him with a failing grade, Cho began reading in a strange, deep voice that sounded “like he had something in his mouth,” Davids said. ”“The whole class started laughing and pointing and saying, ‘Go back to China,”’ Davids said. ”Cho’s great-aunt, who lives in South Korea, said Thursday that because he did not speak much as a child and after the family emigrated to the United States, doctors thought he may be autistic. ”“Normally sons and mothers talk. There was none of that for them. He was very cold,” Kim Yang-soon said in an interview with AP Television News. “When they went to the United States, they told them it was autism.” ”Neither school officials, who have his educational records, nor police who have his medical records, have mentioned such a diagnosis. Autistic individuals often have difficulty communicating, but such a diagnosis would not necessarily explain his violence. ”Regan Wilder, 21, who attended Virginia Tech, high school and middle school with Cho, said she was sure Cho probably was picked on in middle school, but so was everyone else. And it did not seem as if English was the problem for him, she said. If he did not speak English well, there were several other Korean students he could have reached out to for friendship, but he did not. ”A 2002 federal study on common characteristics of school shooters found that 71 percent of them “felt bullied, persecuted or injured by others prior to the attack.” ”Cho “would almost be a poster child for the pattern that we saw,” said Marisa Randazzo, the former chief research psychologist at the U.S. Secret Service and co-author of the study, conducted jointly with the Education Department. ”Among the victims of the Virginia Tech massacre were two other Westfield High graduates, Reema Samaha and Erin Peterson. Both young women graduated from the high school last year, but police said it is not clear whether Cho singled them out.” ————— VT University admits to not informing Cho’s parents of his problems; privacy laws cited fail to explain the tolerance by America’s colleges and universities of “animal house” behavior both on and off campus. “On Nov. 27, 2005, a female student told campus police that she had received unwanted phone calls and visits from Cho, campus police said. She declined to press charges and told police that Cho was “annoying” rather than threatening. Police referred Cho to the campus disciplinary system; the university won’t say what happened next, citing privacy laws. Even Cho’s parents, they said, could not be told the results.” “But patient confidentiality and federal law that prohibits colleges from sharing student records with parents also prohibit school counselors from sharing information about troubled students. The Family Education Rights and Privacy Act, passed in 1974, restricts colleges from releasing student records to parents without consent.” ————— According to initial reports Cho’s parents owned a dry-cleaning business. Dry cleaning is labor intensive. The Presbyterianism of Cho’s parents and his self comparison to Jesus Christ nix Jewish charges of Islamo-facism. Cho’s parents were hospitalized for shock on the day of the shootings and are moved about daily by the FBI. “The news website said Cho’s parents, who work in a dry-cleaning business, kept a low profile in Centreville, attending services at the Korean Presbyterian Church and planting lettuce in the backyard of their home. “Most neighbours could barely recall talking to the couple. “They’re very quiet, very nice people. They worked very hard for him. It’s very sad,” their next-door neighbour, Abdul Shash, told the Associated Press. ““They valued education, just like any other parents in this country, and they worked sometimes 12, 13 hours a day to send a daughter to Princeton and to send their son to Virginia Tech,” said Jeff Ahn, president of the League of Korean Americans in Virginia.” “The parents of mass killer Cho Seung-hi were hospitalised with shock and had not attempted suicide, contrary to reports in Korean media. “Korea’s Yonhap news agency reported that Cho’s parents, who ran a dry cleaning shop in Centreville, Virginia, had been hospitalised after learning of ther son’s killing rampage at Virginia Tech University.” 107
Posted by Dawn D. Mitchell on Fri, 04 May 2012 10:11 | #
An excellent point, there is no such thing as EURO-NAZI or whatever. It is just plain European. This racism doesn’t help with problems that the world has right now.
Dawn D. Mitchell
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Posted by NEC watch on Mon, 16 Apr 2007 20:47 | #
With all due respect, I believe that James Bowery may misunderstand “Chinese nationalism” and the Chinese people, perhaps due to a lack of experience with these people (?).
Chinese “nationalism”, at least as expressed by “overseas Chinese” living in the USA, can be best characterized as:
1. Chinese are far superior to other peoples, who are barbarians. Of course, asking why these “superior” Chinese must emigrate into the lands of the barbarians in order to have a higher standard of living, is “racist.”
2. Foreigners have no place in China. The previous presence of foreigners (“devils”) in China was a manifest humilation.
3. Chinese, of course, have every right to migrate to other peoples’ lands, and, of course, have the right to organize, and behave in the most ethnocentric manner possible, while living in other peoples’ lands. If these “other people” (the “devils”) complain, they are “racist.”
It is not uncommon to hear overseas Chinese living in the USA, for example, complaining that US immigration and visa policies are “racist” in that they cannot bring their entire families over immediately and have to deal with “red tape” - despite the fact that China ranks among the largest sources of migrant streams to America, dwarfing European influx.
It is also not uncommon for overseas Chinese in America to express high hopes for their children’s education, so said children can “be leaders in our community, and fight for the rights of the overseas Chinese” - the same rights, you know, that they deny the Tibetans in their own homeland.
Of course, to the overseas Chinese, native whites have no rights whatsoever, they are just “in the way.”
“If this is further taken to mean that I hold innocent young men, living among foreigners in another country, who go on such rampages—the answer is, “No”.
Well, yes, if the Chinese were not here, no one would be “fucking their women” on college campuses.
If the purpose of the interview is to encourage racial separation, all to the good. But, perhaps, the phrase, “the Chinese are the Jews of Asia”, may become relevant here.
If they are capable of understanding that other peoples have “rights”, I haven’t stumbled across it yet.