The Last Norwegian Patriots

The Fjordman article referred to in the log entry is here.  It’s worth a read.  The following are the two closing paragraphs:

Before the municipal elections in 2007 the Equality and Anti-discrimination Ombudsman Beate Gangås, a white lesbian feminist, warned all political parties against making “discriminatory” remarks about immigration policies, and called for actively reducing the number of white heterosexual men in politics.  There was little real debate about immigration in the heavily left-leaning media that year, but an all the more passionate witch hunt looking for racists, and by that I mean whites only.  The left-wing coalition government, after a meeting with immigrant organizations, announced that racists, apparently meaning white natives only, should be “smoked out” of all public sector jobs.

Following the release of a UN population report which indicated a global population increase of several billion people over the coming decades, Marie Simonsen, the political editor of Norwegian left-wing newspaper Dagbladet, wrote that it should be considered a universal human right for people everywhere to migrate wherever they want to [Scroob note:  Does that include Israel?  Can a billion Third Worlders migrate there?] This would mean virtually certain annihilation for a tiny, wealthy and naive Scandinavian nation.  [Scroob note:  Not “virtually” certain.  Certain.] Ms. Simonsen thus endorsed the gradual enslavement and eventual eradication of her own people, no doubt congratulating herself for her own tolerance.  Not a single word of protest was voiced by any other journalist against this statement. 

Human rights was a concept originally intended to ensure liberty.  Now it’s used to eradicate an entire people, or a large number of peoples across Europe, in the name of tolerance and diversity, and the natives are specifically banned from protesting against this.

Fjordman’s showing signs of getting it:  what the hell else did he think was going on?  This is a tribal war. It’s “non-messy genocide” and the forces wielding this weapon with the help of useful idiots like Miss Simonsen know precisely it’s that, and precisely what they’re aiming to accomplish in wielding it.

In the United States and Canada and Australia, the Jewish genetic clustering is the master of the media and drums the pro-immigration, pro-diversity, pro-pluralism, anti-white line into the heads of the white population.

In the US, yes. In Canada, no. There is considerable Jewish influence in Canadian media but the non-Jewish elements are at least as pro-immigration/multiculturalism as the somewhat Middle East-obsessed Jewish media. Long before the Jews we had Ukrainians pushing what we today call a multicultural agenda. Various Slavs and Meditterranean ethnic groups yield to no one in their enthusiasm to replace old stock Canadians.

“Of course, the last Norwegian patriots with guts died defending Berlin in 1945.”

Yup, throw down the welcome mat for Fjordman. Isn’t this sort of remark going to alienate him and others - especially Norwegians? Who could blame them.

Since Israel Asper’s acquisition of The National Post, the paper has become a strong voice in support of the state of Israel and its government. The Post was one of the few Canadian papers to offer unreserved support to Israel after it invaded southern Lebanon in its fight against Hezbollah.

One of its columnists even referred to Hezbollah as “cockroaches.” Canadian pundits argue whether The Post’s unadulterated support of Israel is a legacy of its late founder’s political ideology or a shrewd business manoeuvre.

... rumours persist that the Aspers will close down the Post due to its lack of profitability. Others believe, however, that the Aspers will keep the newspaper going in order to have a political voice in Canada, notably on issues such as Israel. The Post today operates under the editorial direction of David Asper, an outspoken and controversial figure who is generally considered to lack the stature and business acumen of his late father.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Post

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[Asper’s] media empire started with the Winnipeg television station CKND in 1975. CanWest grew to encompass the Global Television Network, the daily newspaper National Post and over 60 other Canadian newspapers ...

He was a prominent member of Canada’s Jewish community, and was well-known for his strong faith and support for Israel. While a Liberal in domestic Canadian politics his views in regard to Zionism coincided with the right wing Likud - he was an admirer of Vladimir Jabotinsky.

Asper would occasionally pen editorials defending the nation in his various papers and was accused by a number of media observers of censoring opinions critical of Zionism or which he deemed sympathetic to the Palestinians. He was also a critic of public broadcasting media, especially the CBC both for competing with the private sector as well as alleging that CBC News had a pro-Palestinian bias.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Izzy_Asper

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Ezra Levant (born 1972) is a Jewish Canadian publisher, columnist, lawyer and political activist, is on the right-wing of Canada’s conservative movement. He has been critical of Canadian foreign policy, anti-American sentiment in Canadian politicians, is known for his staunch defence of Israel ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Levant

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Here is one of Matra’s Anglo-Saxons at work:

How Black and Asper Plotted to Control Canadian News Biz
http://thetyee.ca/Mediacheck/2007/07/03/BlackAndAsper/

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Here is another:

By 1999 it was clear the Post was for real, so the Globe wanted to beef up its arsenal. Edward Greenspon, then the Globe’s executive editor, noticed [John] Ibbitson’s focused, critical writing and offered him a job. “I saw how aggressively John was covering Queen’s Park and we needed a general in our newsroom,” recalls Greenspon, who became the paper’s editor-in-chief in 2002. He convinced Ibbitson to join the paper...

http://www.rrj.ca/issue/2006/summer/627/

And why did Greenspon select this focused and talented Anglo-Saxon? Here is the answer:

Globe and Mail columnist John Ibbitson applauds Canada’s immigration success. In October 2005, he wrote:

“We are fashioning the world’s first truly cosmopolitan society. After laying a solid foundation of liberal democracy--based on the best of the British and French traditions in governance and law--we have imported millions of new arrivals, first from eastern and southern Europe, then from eastern and southern Asia, Latin America, the Caribbean, and Africa. The result is nothing less than a miracle. Certain cities in Canada ... are becoming the first places where no one race is dominant, where women can live in real equality with men, where it’s okay to be gay ... ”

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/

Now in fact this idea descends from the Jewish contribution to the American immigration debates in the 1920s, and Ibbitson’s language is essentially plagiarized from Ben Wattenberg’s proposal that the US should become the world’s “first universal nation.”

So that would be my serious point: The Jewish plan to remodel America as a multiracial anti-nation is being marketed by an old-stock Canadian journalist, hired by a Jewish editor, as though it were a distinctively Canadian idea. It isn’t.

My less serious point would be a challenge. Can Matra or Desmond Jones come up with a better (i.e. worse) quote from a Ukrainian or Italian journalist writing in a prominent Canadian newspaper?

I won’t hold my breath.

Rnl, long before Izzy Asper built his empire a Ukrainian Catholic by the name of Paul Yuzyk was already known as ‘the father of multiculturalism’ in Canada. A full hundred years before the National Post existed Ukrainians had already taken advantage of the English/French divide to get schools in their own language. Decades before John Ibbitson got his gig at The Globe & Mail Ukrainians and Italians had succeeded in laying a major guilt trip over ‘past abuses’ on Anglo-Canada. Most ethnic groups in Canada have their own TV shows, newspapers, churches, and community networks that play a greater role in influencing them than national newspapers. These ethnic groups have always worked together against Anglo-Canada. Are there English Canadian collaborators? Yes. Have English Canadians historically supported multiculturalism as a whole? No.  The pro-multicultural Nationalists in English Canada have spent decades manipulating, cajoling, and pleading with their own ethnic group to embrace diversity. In ethnic communities no such effort was ever required.

You made numerous references to the newspaper The National Post. The paper has a circulation of only about 250,000 and a lot of those end up in shredders. It’s only available in one city in the Maritime provinces and no one in Quebec reads it.  In Toronto one would have to be discreet about reading it in public as it is seen as a very unfashionable right wing paper. Besides it is the least pro-multicultural of the country’s newspapers.

Global News is a distant third among the three main network news programmes and I suspect it gets a disproportionate percentage of its viewers in Manitoba and Western Canada. The CBC is far more important and it is packed with people sporting exotic names like Tremonti, Gzowski, and their current favourite, George Stroumboulopoulos.

But none of this matters as the damage was done decades ago.

The CBC is far more important and it is packed with people sporting exotic names like Tremonti, Gzowski, and their current favourite, George Stroumboulopoulos.

These exotic names may bother you. They wouldn’t bother me. The important question is whether these men are notably more anti-racist than Anglo-Saxons in the media. I’m inclined to doubt they are.

Joe Guzzardi has an exotic name. George Bush doesn’t.

Rnl, you keep going on about the present-day situation without recognising how we got to where we are. Today there are no incentives for English Canadians to go against the grain. A couple of years ago when it looked like the Conservative Party, which gets most of its votes from English Canada, had a chance of getting back into government it was the Italian-Canadian cabinet minister and immigration enthusiast Joe Volpe who started talking about the KKK. In order to get votes from non-Anglo-Saxon communities the Tories have to keep moving to the left on immigration. They must continually reassure the Joe Volpes of Canada that they don’t represent the ‘bad old days’ when the Union Jack was on the national flag and Orangemen marched in their thousands. For some reason that stuff still causes fear among white ethnics and their own media outlets encourage such fears.

But lets go back in time. In the 1930s Toronto was the sight of the Christie Pits riot between Anglo-Saxons and Jews. Angelo Principe wrote in The Darkest Side Of The Fascist Years:

...in Canada as in Italy, Italians and Jews got along well together...Italians and Jews worked in the needle industry and garment trades both in Montreal and Toronto and both communities experienced discrimination by Canadian nativists, Anglo-Saxon right wingers and the militant Orange Order...Jewish and Italian women often baby-sat for each other and, thus, some Italian-Canadian children could function in Yiddish…

A splendid example of their good relations was the Italian participation on the side of the Jews in the Christie Pits Park riot in 1933. Stimulated by Hitler’s anti-semitism in Germany, some right wing Canadian youths created a Swastika Club in Toronto and practised discrimination and sometimes even engaged in violence against Jews. Christie Pits Park at the junction of Bloor and Christie Streets on the city’s west side was the theatre of violent fights between boys of the Swastika Club and Jews in the summer of 1933. Scores of Italian boys went to help their Jewish friends and one of the participants recalled that he was the only Jew in a truckload of Italian boys rushing to Christie Pits.

All remoniscient of the Sydney beach riot where Italians sided with Lebanese Muslims against Anglo-Australians. In countries historically dominated by Anglo-Saxons it has been the norm for smaller ethnic groups to work together against the majority.

Thirty years after the Christie Pits riots it was the influential Italian-Canada Johnny Lombardi who started up multicultural radio stations which catered not only to Italians but everyone except, of course, the majority population. If a Jew had been responsible for pioneering the idea of multicultural media I’m sure it would be common knowledge here at MR but when ethnic Europeans are involved they get a pass.

I don’t deny that English Canada has been weak at resisting multiculturalism. Most oppose it but don’t make it a priority. The individualism and sense of fair play of those of British descent has been shrewdly exploited by all the other groups.  I’d like the Europeans, Anglo and non-Anglo, to stick together but too many of them are too heavily invested, politically and emotionally, with the idea of a multicultural Canada for that to happen in the near future.

“Of course, the last Norwegian patriots with guts died defending Berlin in 1945.”

If they were “patriots,” then why were they defending Nazi Germany? Last I checked, the Norwegians were uninterested in Nazi occupation, and if they were members of the Waffen-SS, then they were supporting a supranational entity not conducive to Norway’s traditionally neutral interests. I think that qualifies them not as “patriots,” but as traitors to Norway.

Desmond Jones wrote:

Therefore, using Rnl’s logic, the Irish should be happy to be replaced by Poles but angry about replacement by Turks. Either way the result is the same. Extinction.

The important question is where this alleged extinction is occurring.

The Irish _in Ireland_ could be legitimately angry if their nation was being flooded by Poles. The Irish in the US could not. Their ancestors chose to immigrate to a Euro-American nation. Polish immigration into the US is different from Polish immigration into Ireland, because Ireland is an ethnically based nation and the US is not.

Your Anglo-Saxon ancestors invited Ukrainians, along with other European ethnic groups, to help settle Canada’s western provinces. I think that was a good idea. You presumably don’t. But whether it was a good idea or not, it happened long ago. Long ago the choice was made that Canada would become a White nation rather than simply an ethnically English nation and an ethnically French nation. Adding Turks and Nigerians to Canada is thus substantially different from adding more Ukrainians. The former threaten the nation and the latter supplement it.

While North America is being flooded by non-Whites, a demographic disaster which everyone here recognizes, Nordicists and Anglo-Saxonists worry about Poles, Italians, and sometimes even Irishmen. I find that very strange.

Matra wrote:

Rnl, you keep going on about the present-day situation without recognising how we got to where we are.

Most respectable opinion is anti-racist. This website is a hate site. The Occidental Quarterly constitutes “a white supremacist organization.” Even Auster is a “white supremacist” and his site is blocked by hate-detecting software. The President of the United States, committed to the abolition of borders, calls the Minutemen “vigilantes.” Linda Chavez calls conservatives opposed to amnesty legislation “racists.”

That’s the context within which racialism exists _now_. If it could be demonstrated that Italians and Poles play now and have played in the past a crucial role in creating a political environment wherein normality is pathologized, and that Anglo-Saxons have not and do not, then I would dislike Italians and Poles just as much as Desmond Jones does. But that calculation of blame is highly implausible on its face. The group with the most political power must bear the most responsibility. If we are assigning blame, which is unwise but apparently unavoidable, then Anglo-Saxons are the worst White ethnic group. They were the best positioned to resist multiracialism, and they failed to do so. They now provide at least their fair share of multiracialism’s many vocal cheerleaders in the media and in the political mainstream. For every obnoxious Italian multiculturalist I could cite two or three obnoxious Anglo multiculturalists, because there are many more of the latter than the former. 

I’d like the Europeans, Anglo and non-Anglo, to stick together but too many of them are too heavily invested, politically and emotionally, with the idea of a multicultural Canada for that to happen in the near future.

If Italians today believe that they benefit from multiracialism, then they are wrong. No White ethnic group will benefit from multiracialism. All of us have a common interest in opposing it. But if Italians conclude that racialism excludes them, then of course they will have no sympathy for racialism.

Whether Bulgarians and Slovenians are more emotionally committed to multiracialism than Anglo-Saxons is surely a trivial matter, not worth wasting our time over. We know that anti-racism is a suicide pill for all Western nations and all White ethnic groups.

“the same understanding of ‘ethnic group.’ ” (—Rnl)

I see A-Ss, Italians, and Ukrainians as distinct races (none of which I belong to, btw). 

The ‘Kwa’s and English Canada’s founding A-Ss populations surely didn’t envision non-A-S posterity.  Furthermore, Ukrainians, Italians, and Poles could no more maintain the political systems the North American A-Ss set up than could the Sub-Saharans the ones Europeans set up for them.  When in history was anything remotely approaching the A-S set-up seen in the Ukraine?  Never.  And never will be either, because it’s in the race.

“I see A-Ss, Italians, and Ukrainians as distinct races”

Euros and Negroes being different enough to qualify as distinct species.

lets go back in time. In the 1930s Toronto was the sight of the Christie Pits riot between Anglo-Saxons and Jews.

This episode sounds more like thuggishness than racial politics: 

Christie Pits Race Riots’ 60th Anniversary
http://www.eyeweekly.com/eye/issue/issue_08.12.93/NEWS/nv0812a.php

But if it was political, I’ll point out that the Anglo-Saxons lost and the Jews won. It would surely have been better if Anglo-Saxons and Italians had been on the same side.

Two of the most prominent Canadian racialists, Paul Fromm and Marc Lemire, wouldn’t even be allowed to join Desmond Jones’ Anglo-Saxonist movement.

… although the success of the intellectual movements reviewed in this volume is an indication that people can be induced to be altruistic toward other groups, I rather doubt such altruism will continue if there are obvious signs that the status and political power of European-derived groups is decreasing while the power of other groups increases. The prediction, both on theoretical grounds and on the basis of social identity research, is that as other groups become increasingly powerful and salient in a multicultural society, the European-derived peoples of the United States will become increasingly unified; among these peoples, contemporary divisive influences, such as issues related to gender and sexual orientation, social class differences, or religious differences, will be increasingly perceived as unimportant. Eventually these groups will develop a united front and a collectivist political orientation vis-a-vis the other ethnic groups.

Whither Judaism and the West?
http://home.comcast.net/~neoeugenics/whither.htm

It might have been better if my ancestors remained either A-S or German. But it didn’t happen. After WWII, it just wasn’t a big deal for different European-American groups to intermarry across both ethnicity and denomination.

We’ve got to proceed from where we’re at. I don’t think there’s much of a chance of hordes of Eastern or Southern Europeans flooding North America in the near future. So it doesn’t seem dangerous to include them as white, which, after all, just means “us.” You don’t have to marry one if you don’t want to. I picked out at nice, pretty blonde. Nothing wrong with that.

It makes perfect sense to define Latinos. middle-easterners and other “caucasians” as non-white.

Rnl after being shot down over his irrevelant remarks about The National Post and Izzy Asper is now scrambling around claiming Anglo-Saxons, who founded and built North America and Australia, are somehow the enemies of the white race. No doubt his ignorance of Canada is rooted in his American lack of understanding of the world beyond the borders of the US. He attacks the small minority of Anglo-Saxons who went against the interests of their own people by siding with the enemy but has nothing to say about the overwhelming majority of Slavs and Meds who endorse multiculturalism even though the two are connected.

Rnl:

The Irish _in Ireland_ could be legitimately angry if their nation was being flooded by Poles. The Irish in the US could not. Their ancestors chose to immigrate to a Euro-American nation. Polish immigration into the US is different from Polish immigration into Ireland, because Ireland is an ethnically based nation and the US is not.

The people who built the US would be surprised to know that the US was not “an ethnically based nation”.  One can see the ingrained multiculturalist mindset of Rnl in making such a remark.

Rnl says the Irish “chose to immigrate to a Euro-American nation”. Euro-American? You mean like German or Spanish? Strange then that their descendants now speak English and not, say, German. It’s also strange that Paul Rivoire’s name became ‘Revere’. Also strange how the Roosevelts didn’t speak Dutch. How bizarre that in what Rnl calls a nation not based on ethnicity so many ended up speaking English.

Rnl:

Your Anglo-Saxon ancestors invited Ukrainians, along with other European ethnic groups, to help settle Canada’s western provinces. I think that was a good idea. You presumably don’t. But whether it was a good idea or not, it happened long ago.

If Ukrainians still operate as an ethnic group distinct from the white majority it is very relevant. Witness the recent activism of ethnic Ukrainians who don’t even speak the language in bringing an ethnic Ukrainian candidate to power against his Anglo-Saxon rival in Alberta for one reason only: He has Ukrainian ancestors!

Now it could be argued that the Anglo-Saxons should not have invited these Slavs to the country in the first place. But wasn’t their willingness to do so an example of the open-mindedness towards non-Anglo-Saxon whites that Rnl encourages us to embrace? Now how did the Ukes thank the Anglo-Saxons for that? We all know the answer, yet apparently WNists like Rnl demand that we keep on pandering to them until they (along with Italians, Greeks, Croatians, etc) decide they’ve had enough of Third Worlders. Apparently the founding nation is not entitled to an opinion on this. The Anglos cannot act until given permission from the same Slavs and Meds who clearly prefer a coloured future to the old WASP Canada.

Marco Levytsky, editor of the Ukrainian News,

“I know people who bought memberships in both the federal Liberal party and provincial Progressive Conservative party so they could support Gerard Kennedy and Ed Stelmach,” Levytsky said.

Levytsky said he tends to be non-partisan, while his paper supports candidates of all political stripes who will effectively represent “the Ukrainian community’s interests” [what the Albertan communities interests?] in areas such as “education, multiculturalism and immigration”.

Gerard Kennedy despite his Hyannisport surname proudly considers himself Ukrainian. His mother, Caroline Shemanski, is a descendant of one of the first Ukrainian families to arrive in Canada in 1891. Among his strongest supporters is Future Bakery and Café entrepreneur Borys Wrzesniewsky, a member of his campaign team who appeared on “Kontakt” television’s (Kontakt Ukrainian Television Network) Saturday afternoon program on May 8 to endorse Mr. Kennedy’s candidacy.

Kennedy’s plan? Elimination of the “immigrant success gap”.

“Kennedy asserts that a Liberal government led by his office would ensure that Canadian immigrant wages are equal to non-immigrants within ten years of their arrival to Canada. The policy Kennedy is promoting involves creating a cabinet-level position for an “immigrant success advocate”, an officer of parliament who represents the interests of Canada’s immigrant community. Kennedy is also calling for an expansion of the family-reunification plan. He wants to make it easier for Canadian immigrants to sponsor their extended family. He suggests that it would do much to reduce the anxiety often experienced by newcomers, which consequentially provokes them to return home.”

And who supported the ululating Ukie? Why none other than Sikh strongman, Navdeep “I will be the first Canadian PM to wear a turban”, Bains. The same Bains whose father-in-law was being investigated by the Mounties for links to the Air India bombing, the largest terrorist act pre-9/11. Kennedy threw his chips to Dion, at the federal Liberal leadership convention and Bains was justly rewarded.

“...Even if Bains’ father-in-law has nothing to do with Dion’s decision to oppose national security legislation that his own party drafted just five years ago, there is little doubt that certain ethnopolitical special interests are calling the shots here. Among veteran Liberal insiders, it is believed that the several hundred Sikh convention delegates Bains and his allies led into the Dion camp (via Gerard Kennedy) came with a price: an end to the investigative powers contained in the Anti-Terrorism Act, which was opposed for predictable reasons by various Sikh, Tamil and Muslim organizations.”

And geez, quoting that screaming faggot Ibbitson as representative of Anglo-Canucks...pleeeeaase!!!

39th Parliament, 1st Session
(October 4, 2004 - )
Edited Hansard · Volume 141 Number 121
Thursday, March 1, 2007
15:00 - 15:05

(1500)

ORAL QUESTIONS

[Oral Questions]

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[English]

Multiculturalism

Mr. Borys Wrzesnewskyj (Etobicoke Centre, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, on August 24, 2005, the Liberal government signed an historic agreement for $12.5 million with the Ukrainian Canadian community for the acknowledgement, commemoration and education of Canadians of the dark episode of internment operations against Ukrainian Canadians. The program was to be administered by the Shevchenko Foundation.

The Conservative government outrageously cancelled the agreement and ripped it away from the Shevchenko Foundation. Will the government re-announce this Liberal initiative in its budget before Mary Haskett, the sole survivor of internment, dies?

Boris on “Kontakt” suggesting Cdn tax payers offer more than the $12 million as penance for the sins of their evil Anglo forefathers. (5:25)

http://www.infoukes.com/history/images/internment/multimedia/Kontakt-2007-03-17-Seg-5.ram

“Canadian authorities treated both civilian internees and prisoners of war in
accordance with the 1907 Hague Convention. In all Canadian internment camps,
inmates were given the same standard of clothing, food, and quarters as Canadian
soldiers and were free to entertain themselves. They held concerts, played sports,
viewed weekly movies, wrote letters, attended educational classes, practised hobbies,
and participated in numerous other recreational activities. In addition, prisoners
had access to camp libraries where they could read censored books, magazines,
and newspapers. Medical facilities and religious services were also provided.33[...]

Prisoners were paid 25 cents a day for their work, which was the same as the working pay of a Canadian soldier. They could use this money to buy tobacco and other goods from camp canteens.39

Despite the protection of the Hague Rules, life behind barbed wire was a strenuous
experience. The pressures imposed by years of captivity as well as by the difficult
living and working conditions in the camps took their physical and
psychological toll. Consequently, insubordination and other acts of dissension on
the part of prisoners became quite frequent, as did escape attempts. Passive resistance was also common in the camps, with the prisoners simply refusing to work.
On rare occasions, there were more serious demonstrations of discontent. Such
was the case in 1916 when a full-scale riot involving several hundred internees took
place in the Kapuskasing Camp in northern Ontario.40

The majority of the internees proved to be no threat to the security of Canada,
and most were released between 1916 and 1917 after signing a parole agreement
that demanded “loyalty and obedience to the laws of Canada and a periodical
report to the nearest police authority.”41 Many internment facilities were closed as
a result of this decision. When the Armistice agreement of 11 November 1918 ended
hostilities, there were approximately 2,200 prisoners still confined in Canadian
internment camps. The majority were prisoners of war.42 The release of these inmates would be somewhat slower. With Canada’s military commitment to fight
Bolshevism in Siberia in the winter of 1918-19, Ottawa threatened to expand the
Canadian internment operation by adding Russians and Finns to the category of
enemy aliens.43 The repatriation of the prisoners began only after the Treaty of
Versailles, which officially ended the First World War, was signed in June 1919.
Although most remaining enemy aliens were released at that time, the repatriation
of prisoners of war lasted until May 1920, owing to logistical problems.44 Altogether
107 internees died in Canadian internment camps during the war. A high
percentage of these deaths resulted from tuberculosis and the influenza epidemic
of 1918.45”

http://www.ubcpress.ca/books/pdf/chapters/auger.pdf

Reading that stuff about the Canadian Ukes, I’m starting to sympathize with Lazar Kaganovich ...

And yes I used the word dago and I make no apology for it.  There is such a thing as a dago, that fact is in no way the fault of white people, and let’s call a spade a spade.

Have I misunderstood the above link?

In what sense is Brimelow celebrating?

OK, I see, sounds more like it.

Canada’s prime minister is Stephen Harper, an old-stock Canadian with a non-dago surname. Did Stephen Harper reduce non-White immigration? Of course not. He increased it.

From what I recall it was increased slightly because of pressure for more skilled labour but some kind of limit was put on immigration by family members, often parents of ‘New Canadians’. The Chamber of Commerce wing of the Conservative Party of Canada (CPC) always wants more immigration. The grassroots, mostly Anglo, oppose it. But the Liberal Party goal of bringing in 300,000 immigrants a year was rejected out of hand by the Harper government as soon as they took power.

The Liberals get a disproportionate share of their votes from non-Anglos, and increasingly non-Francophones. Black, Jewish, Italian, Slavic, Greek, and Asian voters are their most loyal supporters. The CPC only has a minority government and is trying desperately to peel off some ethnic voters from the Liberals. I think they should forget it and just appeal unashamedly to the two ‘founding nations’. The multiculturalists - whether they are Italian or black, Asians or Ukrainian - would freak out and use their influence to paint the CPC as WASP supremacists trying to turn back the clock.

What matters here is that it is Anglo-Saxons who fill in ‘Canadian’ on census forms. It is Anglo-Saxons who can’t understand why foreigners won’t integrate. Whereas it is ethnic groups like the Italians who have a National Congress of Italian Canadians, a National Federation of Canadian Italian Business and Professional Associations, and Order Sons of Italy of Canada, and so on, not to mention their own TV stations and newspapers which pump out pro-multiculturalist propaganda.  Ditto Ukrainians, Poles and all the others. These organisations are big players in promoting and lobbying for more multiculturalism. There are no similar Anglo-Saxon organisations (the Orange Order is pretty much dead) trying to divide up the white population. There are Anglo-Saxons who support multiculturalism but they don’t speak for the group as a whole as the average Anglo-Saxons just thinks of himself as a ‘Canadian’ or ‘English Canadian’ (as in the English language, not ethnicity, to distinguish them from Francophones). So accusing me of picking on the poor lil’ old Slavs and Mediterraneans is silly when they are the ones who insist on ethnic separation from other whites and actively allign themselves for lobbying purposes with non-white organisations.

Excellent comment about prejudice Fred.  It just goes to show how much more comfortable Jews are with double-speak and dual concepts than gentile Europeans.  The same holds for all of Asians to various degrees.  It’s been my observation that Asians in general are much more comfortable with the verbal tactics used in multi-cultural societies.  They understand that most of what’s being said is BS and that the speaker does not really fully mean what they are saying.  That’s why it always amuses me to hear Arab leaders talk about ‘opening the gates of hell’ and all that other over-blown stuff they say during wars.  It also amuses me that non of the verbal tricks Jews use in the West work on the Arabs.  Arabs know a con man when they see one.  In general it could be said that as of today, Asians talk and Euros do.  Unfortunately in a multi-cultural society talk wins.

At this point in life I am coming to the conclusion Euros are essentially an advanced-civilization warrior cast who have not adapted to the tricks of the fast-talking multi-cultural derived races.  There are two choices as far I see it.  Come up with a collective racial defensive strategy or give up on the idea of an advanced civilization and go back to the extened family thing, 50% poverty rates, corruption, etc. - and hope for the best.  That’s what most Euros SEEM to want to do today .  Why - I am still trying to figure that out.  Maybe it’s the easy, comfortable way out.

The other races want us to regress because they see us as a threat.  They know deep inside that Euros are on the edge of an evolutionary jump that could leave them behind.  You can tell they fear this scenario more than anything.  I don’t blame them.  I would fear it too.  The truth is that I understand what Jews and other non-whites feel when they fear what they fear. 

I don’t know what the solution is.  I am not the genocidal type, so a Hitler type scenario scares me as much as some of the other scenarios.  But what is happening today with the demographic transformation in the West is just plain wrong.  Wrong in every way.  So it needs to be addressed.

Further… Jews are in a horrible position today.  They can’t outflank whites on the civilization front, but it doesn’t look like they can out-do other Asians on the extended-family, corruption thing either.  If we have it bad, they have it worse.  A little bit of honesty at this time could go a long way for them though.  Starting with addressing their treatment of prejudice and their role in the West.

Better yet put up a list of eastern and southern Europeans, in Canada, who oppose multicuturalism/immigration.  Name a Canadian Tom Tancredo.

Let’s look at the PMO’s office and examine who the big race traitors were in Canada.
It got started with Diefenbaker (non-Anglo) who received tremendous pressure from Italians in Canada when he attempted to reform the family reunion aspect of immigration. Dief also appointed Paul Yuzyk, the Father of Multiculturalism to the Cdn Senate.

Pearson (Anglo); Trudeau and his Jamaicans (non-Anglo); Mulroney, who really started the mass wave of immigration to Canada (Irish-Catholic, non-Anglo), Jean Chretien (non-Anglo). Martin’s term was too short to evaluate. Harper’s minority government were the ones who would not give amnesty to illegals, and his gov’ts deportation of Portuguese illegals received roars of disapproval at this site. Harper’s attempt to appoint Gwyn Morgan to oversee appointsment to the Immigration Review Board was roundly denounced by such politicians as Albina Guarnieri (Mississauga East-Cooksville, Lib.)

First, Mr. Speaker, the fate of Portuguese construction workers was declared a low priority by the government. Now we have an appointments commissioner who has declared that immigration from Jamaica and Vietnam is to blame for gang violence in our cities. He says that Jamaican and Vietnamese cultures are “dominated by violence and lawlessness”. We have not heard a public figure slander immigrants like this since the days of the Reform Party.

I ask the Minister of Immigration to apologize to Jamaican and Vietnamese Canadians for the appointment of Gwyn Morgan [Anglo].

The Reform Party’s Preston Manning [Anglo]was one of the first speak about limiting immigration and dismantling multiculturalism.

So let’s see, we’ve got five “race-traitors” [although Diefenbaker, Trudeau and Chretien probably enhanced their people’s EGI]. Four of the five, at the highest political level in the land are non-Anglos.

The “list”, bring it on!

Fred Scrooby wrote:

Of course people are prejudiced: it’s normal, no one on the planet is free of prejudice.

I should have provided a glossary for the quote. For “extremely prejudiced” we could understand “observant” or perhaps even “rational.” But in terms of the present discussion “extremely prejudiced” can be translated politically as “unwilling to accept further colored immigration.” The number of these “extremely prejudiced” Britons was declining quickly in the 1950s.

My point is that changes in British racial attitudes, changes entirely unaffected by subversive British politicians with German or Italian surnames, preceded the massive immigration flow of the following decades.

76 percent agreed that ‘coloured people are just as good as us when they have the same training and opportunities’.

There was no evidence for this proposition, as Richmond himself inadvertently documents, but a growing majority of Britons in the 1950s believed it anyway. Or at the very least they thought they should tell a pollster that they believed it, because they knew it was wrong to “generalize” about non-Whites.

I see Rnl has decided to skip over all the arguments made and makes like multiculturalism was started by Stephen Harper (or maybe it was the National Post! LOL). I’ll take that as an admission of defeat.

“his despicable position vis-a-vis South Africa and the Commonwealth has to classify this German-Canadian as one of the country’s most pernicious race-traitors.” (—Desmond)

I like the term “race-traitor.” It needs to be used more often.  I’m going to try to remember to use it.

Slightly off topic:  here‘s Peter Brimelow twelve years ago discussing his then-just-published book Alien Nation with Prof. Julian Simon, on the Charlie Rose Show.  As can be seen from this YouTube video (whose sound track is unfortunately out of synch with the visual), in the last analysis race has to be the central issue in the immigration debate, which is really a race-replacement debate:  do we want our nation’s race changed or not?  Where that’s identified forthrightly as the central issue the other side has no argument to make.  It can try race-denial but that won’t fly, and it must end up speechless.

Desmond Jones wrote:

It got started with Diefenbaker (non-Anglo)

We’re posting on the Internet. That means I can check this stuff.

If anyone wants to count by surnames, we have in the story below one good German (i.e. a Canadian prime minister with a German surname) who believes in an unhyphenated Canadian identity, and two bad Anglo-Saxons, who think flooding Canada with non-White immigrants will enhance their electoral prospects. One of the bad Anglo-Saxons was Canada’s prime minister, so he had the political power to help wreck his country if he felt the inclination. Which he did.

In the late 50’s and early 60’s, it was John George Diefenbaker who had a dream. His dream was for “One Canada”, an unhyphenated Canada, a Canadian melting pot where, first and foremost, all Canadians would be Canadians, proud Canadians. This was not to be.

The first spark of today’s immigration and multicultural explosion found its roots in the 1963 Royal Commission on Bilingualism and Biculturalism. Contrary to Diefenbaker’s dream, the Commission was to study, not only our two founding peoples, the English and the French, but was also to “examine the contributions made by other ethnic groups”.

At the time, all of this seemed very fair and quite proper. Aside from the English and French, many other people had made huge contributions to the development of Canada. But this Commission was an historical milestone in our development. For the first time, it recognized and institutionalized the hyphenated Canadian ... Dief’s dream was smothered.

Later, in the mid-60’s, an assistant to Lester B. Pearson, Tom Kent, allegedly was thought to have advised the Liberal leader on how to break-up the Progressive Conservative’s political grip on “Tory Toronto”. The solution was quite simple. Open up the immigration flood gates to non-traditional immigrants.

http://votp.blogspot.com/1999_01_01_archive.html

It is well known that the [European] immigrants who came to Canada in the early 20th century after Laurier’s Liberal government adopted a wide-open immigration policy became loyal Liberal supporters, possibly as a show of gratitude for the ones who welcomed them in their new country. More than sixty years later, Pearson’s Liberal government did not seem to have forgotten this lesson when it relaxed its immigration policy: deputy minister of immigration Tom Kent was heard saying increased immigration would help break up “Tory Toronto”. For a generation, these hopes would prove not to be misplaced: a paper on the 2000 federal elections presented at the Biennial Meeting of the Association for Canadian Studies in the United States found that “70 percent of Canadians of non-European origin voted Liberal”. Another paper of the Association for Canadian Studies also noted that “during the 2000 federal election Liberal candidates tend to have exceeded 50% of the vote in those Ontario ridings where the immigrant population exceeded 20% of the riding and in Quebec where the non-francophone electorate exceeded 20%.”

http://www.polyscopique.com/blog/archives/000670.html

Pearson = bad. Kent = bad. Yet they should be good, if your embarassingly simplistic theory were true.

Martin’s term was too short to evaluate.

According to Wikipedia Paul Martin was French and Scottish, so I don’t know whether you count him among your Anglo-Saxon brotherhood. But if you do, I’ll point out that he was a thorough multiculturalist and a fan of Third World immigration, just like his impeccably Anglo-Saxon successor. He was also, incidentally, a master of the ethnic politicking you often complain about.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/viewpoint/vp_zolf/20040726.html

In the era of high-immigration there have only been two Canadian prime ministers with Anglo-Saxon surnames, Joe Clark and Stephen Harper. Both are multiracialists; both are also shameless Zionists, though that is a different subject. Harper, despite some claims here to the contrary, thus far has been at least as much an advocate of racial diversity as any his non-Anglo predecessors. That’s a one hundred percent failure rate for your theory.

An Anglo-Saxon conservative follows a French-Scottish liberal as your prime minister, yet Canada’s immigration policy remains the same. The Anglo-Saxon conservative, instead of using the opportunity offered by Muslim terror plots to reduce immigration, as any principled Western leader would do, actually increases immigration and vocally dedicates himself to the Holy Grail of more multiracial diversity, which he believes is an inestimable source of cultural strength and a shield against Islamic terrorism.

Clinton, Bush, Blair, Harper - there’s a pattern here. On race-related subjects all of them might as well have the same speech writer, because they all repeat the same multiracialist nonsense. They also also enact the same multiracialist policies, which suggests that they might actually believe what they say. Each of them should be welcome in the Anglo-Saxonist movement you and Matra are organizing, but none of them would be willing to join.

Name a Canadian Tom Tancredo.

Name an _Anglo-Saxon_ Tom Tancredo in Canada. You don’t have a single elected Canadian politician who favors a reduction in Third World immigration. You do now have an Anglo-Saxon prime minister, but it turns out that he celebrates racial diversity as enthusiastically as any of his French and Irish predecessors. That should tell you something. It won’t, but it should.

Your problem is not Italians or Slavs or Irishmen. Your problem is anti-racism, which inhibits Whites from defending themselves.

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There is some serious discussion of related subjects at VDare:

In his support of Liberal immigration policy (chain migration or “family reunification”) plus ever-increasing numbers (slated to rise from 245,000, the highest legal rate in the world, to 320,000: 1% per capita per year), Harper and his Conservatives continue to conspire in their own destruction.

http://www.vdare.com/misc/060124_grace.htm

Matra wrote:

I see Rnl has decided to skip over all the arguments made

Which arguments did I skip over? Pick one that you think I avoided.

and makes like multiculturalism was started by Stephen Harper (or maybe it was the National Post! LOL).

You missed the point earlier. I’ll explain it to you again, hopefully more clearly.

The Asper family owns a television network and many Canadian newspapers, including the National Post. They are highly activist Jews. They employ in their major newspaper fellow Jews and a large number of journalists with Anglo-Saxon and Nordic surnames. This is a common pattern in any media dominated by Jews, hardly exclusive to this particular newspaper. Activist Jews and what Prof. MacDonald calls “de-ethnicized Gentile elites” collaborate in a common enterprise. Put simply, there are not enough Jews to wreck a country. They need helpers. And they seldom have any difficulty finding their helpers.

Italians and Slavs are underrepresented as helpers at the National Post. In fact, as I mentioned, they do not appear to be represented at all. Anyone who cares to test my theory can take a look at the URLs I listed above. You’ll find a large number of old-stock Nordish names.

Italians and Slavs are also underrepresented at Canada’s most influential newspaper, which is Gentile-owned. The ninth-richest man in the world owned the Globe and Mail. A Jew is its editor-in-chief, and the rest of the senior editors don’t have names like Tortelleni or Pirrone. They have good Anglo-Saxon and Nordic names. Yet they promote multiculturalism. You tell me that they promote multiculturalism even more vigorously than the Aspers. You don’t seem to grasp how that fact undermines your case against ethnics.

You are a smart man. But on the subject of Anglo-Saxonism you suddenly become remarkably obtuse.

Your Anglo-Saxonism probably worked well in Northern Ireland, where non-WASPs were the enemy. It is far from useful in North America.

I’ll take that as an admission of defeat.

Desmond believes that Canadian prime ministers with Anglo-Saxon surnames are significantly different on racial issues than prime ministers with non-Anglo-Saxon surnames. That is clearly false, as well as incredibly trivial. So if this discussion is a contest, I win.

Rnl - Which arguments did I skip over?

11.29pm Monday and silver’s remarks.

Rnl loves these liberal web page resources.

A quick note regarding Le blog de Polyscopique, quoted above;

Note to the Kevin MacDonald fan: [Guess who?] your Jew-baiting comment has been deleted and you have been banned from this blog. I knew you had made racist posts in the comment threads of the Shotgun, but I tolerated you here as long as you avoided talking about race. This is over. This blog will not provide a forum to people seeking to spread this kind of creed.

The correlation is vismin >20% and majority Catholic riding = a Liberal member of federal parliament. The extended corelations are posted here, under one of Matra’s earlier post. Of course Catholic equals, disproportionately, eastern and southern European origin. No white solidarity there.

Paul [mar-TAN] Martin, is a mongrel Catholic at best. French, Metis, Irish, Scottish etc. A classic example of Rnl’s WN EGI. Hardly a poster boy for the WN cause.

More later.

Cheerio.

You can bitch about the GD liberals all you want. The PC party is not much better. It was Muldoon who upped immigration to the current insane level in the futile hope of outpandering the liberals. I agree the PCs are somewhat better and most of their nomination meetings don’t look like they take place in the Third World however they are just as useless as the republican party in America.

As for Anglo Saxons, being one I can’t tell you how ashamed I am with the UK being a disgusting liberal cesspool and probable mudshark capital of the world. Let’s face facts. We have more use for a nominally white swarthy dago who is opposed to Third World immigration than a blond haired blue eyed silly English fop who votes for diversity.

CS, Whittaker is right:  in the final analysis race-replacement is the issue, and everything else is peripheral.  Furrthermore, our strongest argument is the one made explicitly against race-replacement:  the other side simply has no arguments to counter that, apart from things like, “it serves whites right after the way they’ve treated non-whites all these centuries,” etc.  There are no other arguments possible.  To not argue specifically against race-replacement is to pass up a huge debating advantage.

Is that true Andy? It is hard to find stats. What percent do you consider “too low”. In my opinion it is already too high.

11.29pm Monday and silver’s remarks.

I won’t bother. This is too ridiculous. You and Desmond should post on another blog. You’re minority activists. You have no interest in your own majority population. You have no interest in your own country either.

Trust me when I tell you that getting worked up about Catholics is really dumb.

Wintermute is right about the MR logos. They should be removed. They’re false advertisements.

Count Sudoku:You can bitch about the GD liberals all you want. The PC party is not much better. It was Muldoon who upped immigration to the current insane level in the futile hope of outpandering the liberals. I agree the PCs are somewhat better and most of their nomination meetings don’t look like they take place in the Third World however they are just as useless as the republican party in America.

That is because as the Anglo-Canadian population declines the Tories feel they have to appeal to minorities - just like the GOP being told they must appeal to Hispanics so should give up on border enforcement. Historically the Tories have also been hamstrung by Quebec - though the recent by-elections there were terrible for the Liberal Party and not that good for the Bloc - a problem that was even bigger for them than Scotland is to British conservatives. They are afraid of the 90s experience under Reform when they were portrayed as the equivalent of rural Klansmen by the media that was forever highlighting their “white Anglo male” characteristics.

What matters though is that the people who vote Conservative are the demographic that is under attack. Every election