The rising tide of anger, the mainstream press, and a letter to a government minister

Posted by Guessedworker on Thursday, 27 September 2007 23:50.

Every day now a clutch of immigration stories appear in the mainstream UK press.  The silence is slowly, irrevocably breaking.  Loyal feeling, where it exists, is making itself heard and will not be silenced again.

Over the last two or three days we have, starting with the Daily Mail, heard that:-

If the BBC’s worried about immigration, can we have an honest debate about it?

Ever since New Labour won the election in 1997, there has been a lively debate about immigration in this country, and it has not made a blind bit of difference.

Poles, other East Europeans and illegal immigrants have made a bee-line for our shores in increasing numbers.

Some newspapers, such as this one, have pointed out what is happening, but the tide has flowed on. The think-tank MigrationWatch has ably made its case without any obvious effect.

A few politicians have spoken up, but their warnings have not been heeded - or, if they have, nothing has changed. The Tories have picked up the issue and then dropped it. At the moment they are wondering whether to pick it up again.

We are told that 25 per cent of babies born in this country have at least one foreign-born parent. Within a few years, several cities will have a nonwhite majority.

And here, from the Telegraph:-

One fifth of schoolchildren from ethnic minorities

One in five children educated in English schools are now from ethnic minorities, official figures show.

The number of Asian, black African, black Caribbean, eastern European and Chinese pupils is thought to have doubled in the last decade.

In some parts of the country they outnumber white British pupils. Growing numbers of schoolchildren also speak languages other than English at home, it emerged.

One in eight school children do not speak English as their first language, rising to one in seven for primary school pupils.

According to statistics by the Department for Children, Schools and Families, almost 22 per cent of primary school pupils are from ethnic minority families, compared to 20.6 per cent last year.

Numbers have also grown in secondary schools where almost 18 per cent of the student body is now non-white British. In at least five areas - London, Birmingham, Leicester, Luton and Slough - white British children are now outnumbered by those from other ethnic groups.

And again from the Daily Mail:-

200,000 immigrants to enter Britain EVERY year as numbers soar by 30%

The number of people migrating to the UK will increase by 45,000 a year, according to new official figures published today.

Experts at the Office for National Statistics (ONS) said their estimates had increased to 190,000 a year compared with 145,000 in calculations issued two years ago.

Changes to the way migration is estimated would also lead to earlier migration totals being “revised” later this year, it added.

There’s this from the Daily Express:-

CRACKDOWN ON STOWAWAYS NETS 150 MIGRANTS A NIGHT

RIOT police launched a crackdown last night on migrants in Cherbourg – which has become the front line in Britain’s war on illegal immigration.

Stowaways were pulled from under a lorry in the Normandy port as part of the operation to cut off this new route to the UK. 

The men, who claimed to be from Iraq, were perched over a rear axle of the 36-ton truck. They had been hoping to get on to a ferry bound for Poole, Dorset.

Instead they joined the 150-odd immigrants arrested in Cherbourg every night. Home Office figures show 1,300 were stopped on this route in July alone.

... and this:-

BULGARIANS WANT FREE ACCESS TO OUR JOBS MARKET

BRITAIN’S borders came under further strain yesterday as Bulgaria called on us to lift restrictions on its citizens working in the UK.

The government there claimed only four Bulgarians had been deported from Britain since Bulgaria joined the EU this year, and said this was “encouraging”.

... She said: “Figures show that Bulgarian migrants should not be an issue for the UK.

Bulgaria is a small country and unable to create huge obstacles for the UK labour market. “It is important to emit positive signals and have fewer reports of illegal Bulgarian migrants.”

Bulgaria is one of the crime capitals of Europe, plagued by powerful drug cartels, alarming levels of people trafficking and a government embroiled in Mafia corruption.

... and this:-

OUR BLINKERED PM WILL NOT SEE DANGER FROM ABROAD

SIX times he was asked the question and six times he dodged it.

Gordon Brown’s refusal to admit the obvious truth about immigration merely emphasises that Labour has no idea how to control the influx from abroad. Is it good for Britain to have more than 500,000 a year pouring in? Every Daily Express reader knows the answer to that is an emphatic “No”.

The Prime Minister, however, wriggles and squirms and pretends he has a policy. “We have managed migration,” he declares, ignoring the fact that we lost control of our borders long ago and the Home Office admits it has no clue how many illegal immigrants are here.

And, somewhat portentiously, this:-

AT LAST.. EVEN THE BBC AGREES WE MUST DEBATE THE PERILS OF IMMIGRATION

SOMETIMES key moments take place which show the terms of polit­ical trade have changed for good.

Norman Lamont’s Commons declaration that John Major was “in office but not in power” was one, crystallising a growing certainty that Labour would be returning to government at the subsequent election.

Wednesday night saw ­another. The BBC’s flagship programme Newsnight carried a major report on the warning from Cambridgeshire Chief Const­able Julie Spence about the strains immigration is placing upon her county.

Afterwards Jeremy Paxman chaired a live studio debate between Immigration Minister Liam Byrne, Sir Andrew Green, head of the immigration-sceptic think tank MigrationWatch, and Nick Clegg, the Lib Dem home affairs spokesman.

Previously the debate would have gone as follows: News­night anchorman frequently interrupts Sir Andrew, then allows Labour and Lib Dem to imply he is a Right-wing bigot. Anchor then mildly lambasts the Labour man for sometimes “pandering” to the tabloids. Finally, consensus is reached between the Beeb, Labour and Liberal that immigration is a thoroughly good thing which only racists and “nasty party” types could question.

But that is not what happened. Instead, Mr Paxman listened resp­ectfully to Sir Andrew, whose contributions to the mig­ration debate have always been backed up by research and persuasive argument.

Paxo then reacted with outrage at Sir Andrew’s revelation that 200 houses a day will have to be built in Britain just for new migrants. He pressed Mr Byrne to say when the British people had given their approval for such an influx.

Finally, Sir Andrew was given airtime to expertly demolish Mr Clegg’s crazy plan for an amnesty for illegal immigrants.

But la pièce de résistance, and the story the BNP decided to run with, is that of young Jake Stedman, a 10-year old Chatham boy whose adventure in racism was reported in the Daily Mail thus:-

Boy ‘who was attacked’ by Slovakian woman may face racism charge

A boy of ten who claims to have been attacked by a Slovakian woman with an iron bar could be charged with inciting racial hatred, it emerged last night.

Jake Stedman admitted that the woman hit him after he threw a berry at her and told her to ‘go back to her own country’.

As a result, the boy - who was left with two black eyes - could become the youngest person in the country ever to be charged with the offence.

A police source said: “There have been allegations that he used racist language and it is necessary for us to investigate the claims.”

The Slovakian woman involved, 35, was arrested and could face assault charges.

Jake, a white English pupil, attends Luton Junior School in Chatham, Kent. The school is so riven by racial tension after an influx of Slovakian and other eastern-European children that four police patrol the gates every day.

... Chief Inspector Peter Wedlake, of Medway Police, said officers would remain on duty outside the school.

He added: “We won’t tolerate racially-motivated offences, whoever they are committed by.”

A statement issued by Medway Council on behalf of the school said: “Community cohesion is a shared responsibility for us all.

“Medway schools are typically happy and calm places where children from different backgrounds learn together and get on well.

If you think that happy-speak merely covers moral nakedness you may be right.  Here are the words, made by an entirely mechanical process I presume, of Chatham MP and Parliamentary Under-Secretary (and Minister for the South East), Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs, Jonathan Shaw (he’s a typical party loyalist, by the way).

There have been reports of tensions between the existing community and newly-arrived Slovakian immigrants in the area. Jonathan visted both schools to discuss the matter with the Headteachers and other staff.

Jonathan Shaw MP said:

“When the matter was brought to my attention, I arranged to visit the schools and see the situation first hand.

“I found both schools happy and calm places where children from different backgrounds get on well together.”

“The schools are working with the police, community support officers and the wider community to play their part in promoting good race relations among pupils and parents.”

“I am proud that Medway is a place where differences are respected and valued so that children are supported in achieving their potential in schools.”

Is it self deceit?  Moral cowardice?  Outright dishonesty?

I don’t know, but my staunch political ally John Standing thought it likely to be the last and, consequently, Mr Shaw deserved a rocket.  This is what he got.  In reply, I can tell you, the Labour Party machine will write back asking for the home address of their persecutor, and there the matter will rest.

Dear Mr Shaw,

I am not a constituent.  I hope you will forgive me contacting you to express my amazement and disappointment at the actions of Medway Police in investigating your 10-year old constituent Jake Stedman for, it would seem, telling a Slovakian women to go home to her own country.  Regardless of whether the child actually said this or something else, the involvement of the police in the matter is disturbing to anyone not completely caught up in this hateful thing, anti-racism. 

When the law becomes oppressive to the people - and in this instance it clearly has - then government loses its moral foundation.  Here, its position is made worse by the fact that Labour has imported alien peoples into Chatham, as everywhere, with utter abandon and without the slightest interest in the feelings of its people.  It has, therefore, created the tensions at work here, and bears a far greater burden of guilt than any 10-year old English boy.

I strongly urge you to take a public stand on his behalf.  I urge you to criticise the quite religious anti-racist zealotry of Medway Police.  Further, I urge you to reassure the English of Chatham - by which I mean those of English descent - that you hear their voices in humility and in the knowledge that this unprecedented and unwanted bringing of the world to the English homeland, with all the pain and anger that it occasions, can not be used against them by your government or by the law as a weapon of punishment.

Yours truly,

John Standing

Tags: Journalism



Comments:


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Fri, 28 Sep 2007 02:17 | #

The people don’t want race-replacement but it keeps getting shoved down their throats.  It’s exactly as Steven Palese pointed out:  something is blocking the democratic process.  What’s blocking it?  It can only be globalist-capitalist money scrupulously applied strategically to key decision-points of the political process (this money in large measure Jewish-controlled).  What else could it be?  Nothing, obviously.  Clearly there’s an immense behind-the-scenes force bringing pressure to bear to ensure race-replacement and punish dissent.  The conscious minds behind this pressure, who are directing it, know exactly what they’re doing and what their goal is.  If a wind blows the roof off a house we don’t say, “I can’t see the wind, therefore I have no idea what blew that house’s roof off.”  We say, “I can’t see the wind, but it’s obvious one just came along and blew that house’s roof off:  the wind did it.”  We can’t see the ones methodically pushing race-replacement — they keep themselves well hidden — but their effects are obvious and give them away as much as if a giant spot light were shone on them scurrying around out of sight underneath their rocks.


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Posted by Al Ross on Fri, 28 Sep 2007 02:40 | #

It doesnt matter a damn whether or not this 10year old boy is ‘racist’, the truth is the truth and most English people would prefer Slovaks to remain in Slovakia.

“Out of the mouths of babes and sucklings….”


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Posted by Guessedworker on Fri, 28 Sep 2007 07:56 | #

And on it goes.  This on the Telegraph website today ... this, today’s headline story in the Mail ... this comic tale on the Mail site since yesterday ... this still linked on the Times comment page.


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Posted by Bill on Fri, 28 Sep 2007 10:24 | #

“Here’s a (Post) I made earlier, (months ago in fact) it’s been languishing in ‘My Documents’ for some time now.  It’s a bit lengthy I’m afraid – I might as well use it here”

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‘How the heck did I get here? - or - Just trying to get a handle.’

I don’t know if I’m typical, but I imagine there are lots of people out there like me, who suspect that there is something seriously ‘menacing’ going on in Britain today, but haven’t a clue as to what it is.  To most, this suspicion manifests itself in observing massive immigration into this nation of ours.

Some time ago, when on occasional visits to my local town, I could not help but notice there was an ever-increasing number of our ethnic guests wandering around.  Who were these people?  Where had they come from?  How did they get here?  Did someone invite them?  Who allowed them in?  These questions and a lot more tumbled through my mind.  These people all had such a self-assured look about them, it was unnerving, what did they know that I didn’t?  It was important for me to find out, trouble was – where to start?

I could write a book of my journey on the quest of answering those questions, I instinctively knew that the MSM was not going to tell me as I was puzzled by their cheer leading for all this diversity, my neighbours and acquaintances were no better either, when I subtly probed the question, they just backed away (furrowed brow and puzzled look) and beat a hasty retreat.  The last remaining resort was to my PC.  Little did I know that I was to embark on a journey that would take me zillions of keystrokes and thousands of Google searches, even then, answers that seemed certain would drift in and out of the mists of confusion, such is the maze of contradiction, smoke and mirrors involved here.

(An aside here)  I quickly came across an answer to my quest at the BNP website, (of which I was unaware existed) but I found it (answer) so incredulous I refused to accept it – it was not possible – or was it?  So it was back to the drawing board.  Suffice to say, no matter which circuitous route I trod, I assuredly arrived at the same conclusion.  (It is interesting to note those stark messages no longer seem to be there on the BNP website.)

I quickly discovered and learnt the lexicon of 21st. century political discourse and in no particular order, here is a sample - Immigration, Multiculturalism, Diversity, Open Borders, War on Terror, Chaos, Celebrate, Community, Enrich, Cultural Marxism, Political Correctness, Tolerance, Nazi, Hitler, Holocaust, Frankfurt School, Gramsci, Hippie ‘60’s, Postmodernism, Liberal Guilt, Russia Revolution, Communism, End of the West, End of USSR, Globalisation, (Challenges of) Social Justice, EU, Neocon, Affirmative Action, Spin, Anti White Hate Laws, Islam, Relativism,  Global Elites, Murdoch, Blair, Clinton, Kristol, Strouse, Cheney, Bush, Rumsfelt, New World Order, Bilderberger,  9/11, Racist, Bigot, Neoliberal, Diversity, Corporate, Equal, Human Rights, Identity, Oppressor, Inclusion, Victim…… OK - I think that’s enough, you get the idea, (there’s loads more) to me, all of these were pieces of a jigsaw of which I knew made up a big picture, trouble was, I couldn’t tell what that big picture was supposed to look like.

So, armed with these pieces of jigsaw, I started to try and piece them together, I did not find it easy, just when I thought I had ‘got it’ something new or contradictory would appear and ruin my progress.  As I have said, it took me a long time before a coherent picture began to emerge but often it was a case of one step forward two steps back, even now I don’t know if I have ‘got it’ wholly right.  (There are still answers remaining unclear)  Well, you may ask, where is all this leading?  What is your point?

I hear and read comments by the thousand that this immigration is madness, it’s ridiculous, it’s beyond a joke, I remember not so long back when they were saying the same thing about political correctness, it was beyond a joke - they don’t say that anymore, they see PC for what it really is, an evil device to shut us up and manipulate compliance of our thoughts.  They (people) no longer regard PC as a joke.

Tens of millions of Western inhabitants, see before them on a daily basis an ever increasing number of strangers whose culture the people of Britain have little or nothing in common.  My guess is, Britain’s average Kevin and Sally Soap haven’t the foggiest as to what it’s all about, most are way too busy with kids, mortgage and making ends meet, and I’m pretty sure they are not sufficiently interested to turn to the Internet for answers they don’t even know the questions.

They are far more likely to zap the screen for Corrie and their soporific fix of their surrogate lives, and theirs the rub, the whole shooting match that is being discussed here on this site is such an entangled web of cunning deceit, spin and lies that I would say it is impossible to convey to Kevin and Sally the real reason for their instinctive unease.

I suppose deep down, I ask myself, do these people even care who they are and where they are from and what is happening to their country, are they really the echoes of Agincourt, Trafalgar, Normandy?  I wished I knew the answer to these questions for herein may hold the answer to our people’s survival.

All of which I am trying to convey here is, there must be many who are surfing these sites, eagerly scanning, looking for answers to questions that I myself asked not so long ago. (still am)  I notice the explosion of anger and frustration in the response by posters to writings in the daily newspaper blogs, even a cursory glance tells me most haven’t got a clue and are threshing about in a sea of old values that have been long ago jettisoned.

It would be nice if any surfer who alights on sites such as MR looking for answers to their questions -  I dunno, perhaps a permanent page could be set-aside for an Idiots Guide as to ‘Why Immigration?’ I’m sure it could be done.  Perhaps just laying out the bear bones in a logical easily understood format - spelling out the intended consequence for our people and their future generations - whether it will galvanise their awareness to include it on their radar I just don’t know - I like to think it will.  One thing’s for sure, the longer ignorance persists; the odds for survival get slimmer by the day.


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Posted by Red Baron on Fri, 28 Sep 2007 12:37 | #

It is crucial to acknowledge sentiment and facts which are opposed to the propagandist’s goals. (Jacque Ellul, Propaganda)

Fact is, there will be no policy changes and if there are policy changes they will not change the current paradigm.

The only way immigration will be stopped is if members of the political class along with the elites are punished, punished severely.  Printed words, in this case, mean nothing.


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Fri, 28 Sep 2007 13:54 | #

Red Baron is wrong:  the printed word at the present juncture is not nothing, it’s everything.  Action will come.  It’s already starting:  we’ve seen that in the way the two race-replacement-acceleration bills were stopped, the huge one the other month and the mini-version just within the past days, over here in the colonies.

Excellent comment by Bill.  Bill, we’re all perplexed, at the twin mysteries of who exactly is doing it, and why no élite resistance.( * )  After all, though many élites are traitors and it has always been so, never before was every single élite without exception a traitor.  That’s unprecedented.  So why no resistance is a mystery.  As for who is doing it, that’s less of one:  it’s an alliance of the usual suspects, among whom are the Jews and here‘s a pretty good little summary of why that particular group would do such a thing the minute it gained power.  Jews aren’t the only ones of course, far from it.  We’ve talked about all the others without exception in this site’s threads, and thank God for MajorityRights.com and heroes like GW who’ve taken their stand in this hour of their people’s deadly peril, heroes who refused to look on idly but answered the call when their nation — and kindred nations — were in mortal danger.  As their fathers before them did when their nation was threatened, so have they done, and have not shirked.  God bless them.  They will be remembered when this is over.
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( *  That it’s being done deliberately of course cannot be in doubt:  that’s clear.  This is not happening by itself but is being forced on us, and can easily be halted AND FULLY, HUMANELY REVERSED the minute there’s the political will.  Never let yourself be lulled into the belief we are stuck with this situation as a fait accompli:  NO WAY!  FORGET THAT!  That’s what the other side wants, but AIN’T GONNA HAPPEN!  We’re gonna throw this shit off of us and get back to the way things were!  And we’re gonna hunt down every last person who did this and punish them to the fullest extent of the law.  And the law I refer to is the law pertaining to a little thing called treason and another little thing called the Nuremberg genocide precedent.  And Prof. Alon Ziv looks eligible to be one of the first to answer for his crimes under the latter.)


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Posted by Steve Edwards on Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:18 | #

Aside from the usual suspects (including all current serving and former US Presidents, most of the US Senate, most living European leaders past and present, anyone who has ever attended a meeting of the Bilderberg group, the CFR, etc) please don’t forget academics such as Professor Prond-whatsisname-ski. He will have to be dragged into the dock under multiple charges of sedition, criminal conspiracy and inciting genocide. That both domestic and international statutes are not being CURRENTLY enforced is no reason to give up on applying them within, say, the next 10 to 20 years.


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Posted by Steve Edwards on Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:25 | #

On top of this, Freddy Thielmans will need to be arrested, sooner or later, as well, on charges of conspiracy to commit genocide, human rights abuses against peaceful demonstrators (including one shocking act of genital disfigurement carried out by Brussels’ brownshirts), and no doubt other violations. And of course, all former Eastern Bloc government officials should simply be executed without trial.


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Posted by zusammen on Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:54 | #

Data needs to be gathered for the genocide charges. I would begin with the highest level actors perceivable, working down the chain later to academics, city managers, clergymen and street activists. I would make it a closed loop investigation, an inquiry board encompassing all affected nations and the relevant EGI needing protection therein. The board needs historians who provide events, context and trends, legal professionals, some insiders who have served in academic, business and government (expert witnesses) services, a trusted secretary or two an IT information security specialist or two. All this talent is available. Someone needs to gather them, tell them the

What: For each named actor (who), motive (why: especially material gain for self) and opportunity (where, when, how) need detailed. What papers have these actors written and what speeches have they given? This is supporting evidence.

The actors need to be classified and stratified. Some are conscious, intentional and frequent. Some occasional or indirect beneficiaries. Some are high level like national policy advisors, some low level like small town journalists. A villain classification system can offer a visual aid like a pyramid with compartments inside.

Harm done to all involved EGIs needs to be detailed. Public data provided by governments, news reports and many individual accounts can be gathered for more supporting evidence.

Does something like a unified race replacement theory exist? Are those involved testable against the theory?

After much of the work is done, will private citizens show mass support by signing?

Lastly, the compiled report needs to be distributed to appropriate parties for review and action. U.N., certain heads of state, certain public office candidates and mass media channels are appropriate. Think world wide exposure as demand for justice and caution provided for other people in the world.


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Posted by Matra on Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:56 | #

BULGARIANS WANT FREE ACCESS TO OUR JOBS MARKET

There are one million Muslim Turks and Gypsies in Bulgaria. The Slavs have apparently been encouraging them to leave for some time. Clearly the Roma in particular will be a boon to Britain’s economy!

The school is so riven by racial tension after an influx of Slovakian and other eastern-European children that four police patrol the gates every day

So what do WNists have to say about that?


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Posted by Matra on Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:18 | #

Data needs to be gathered for the genocide charges

A politics student tour guide in Prague told me that they’ve got such a public list there of collaborators with communism. For various reasons few collaborators were prosecuted so to satisfy public demand for revenge police informers and others had their names and addresses published on some government website. (I would’ve thought that to be a violation of some EU law). According to the student any time an employer is considering hiring someone they check to make sure the name isn’t on the list as other employees will find out about the person’s past thus leading to problems in the workplace. Collaborators haven’t been jailed but they have been blackballed from mainstream society.


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Posted by LW on Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:48 | #

Have any of you seen this video?

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=3664960863576873594&hl=en-GB

Very long but worth watching


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Posted by desmond jones on Fri, 28 Sep 2007 18:04 | #

So what do WNists have to say about that?

“If you live in a small English village your allegiances might make sense. But [if]you don’t live in a small English village…you’re a small-minded minority activist, dedicated to an Anglo-Saxon movement that doesn’t exist and can’t ever exist, [and] you refuse to see the evidence in front of your nose.”


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Posted by name on Fri, 28 Sep 2007 18:33 | #

Here’s what VNN’s version of Rnl (“Aryan Lord”) has to say about it:

This boy no doubt has all the making of a future welfare-scrounging, drug taking career petty criminal. Anti-Slovakian racism is anti-Aryan racism. He didn`t have the intelligence or the balls to direct his venom against legitimate targets.


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Posted by zusammen on Fri, 28 Sep 2007 19:19 | #

I believe the Generic Aryan concept promoted by some WNs leads directly to that Generic Human concept promoted by our liberal democracies.

No, the Aryan tribes should preserve themselves distinctly because this directly supports the different Aryan people as a whole race preserving themselves, as a race, distinctly. Localization counters globalization.

Pan-European political concensus must be separate from unfettered migration, cultural blending and inter-tribal breeding. This applies to all races and their tribal divisions.

The mixed breed generic human mutt is the globalist ideal economic man. He is Homo americanus.


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Posted by James Bowery on Fri, 28 Sep 2007 19:26 | #

The subject of the video to which “LW” links above is a charity called “Common Purpose”.  Fascinatingly, the Wikipedia entry on the phrase “common purpose” begins with the following sentence:

In criminal law, the doctrine of common purpose, common design or joint enterprise refers to the situation where two or more people embark on a project with a common purpose that results in the commission of a crime.

This, despite the fact that at present the top link returned by Google to the search query “common purpose” is to the UK charity discussed in the video.

HAVING SAID THAT, I think it is important to understand that despite the fact that those committing genocide are, indeed, committing genocide against, not one, but all nationalities worldwide, the biggest problem we have is not deliberate destruction of national identities, but is rather virulence.  Virulence need not be deliberate—indeed it is almost always incidental to exploitation by an evolutionary system. 

Where deliberate targeting is essential is countering virulence—as an immune system does when it detects a virulent pathogen and creates antibodies specific to that pathogen.  It is, therefore, dangerous to set one’s moral compass to the doctrine that “genocide is evil”.  If an entity protected by prohibitions against “genocide” is, in fact, the primary cause of virulence it becomes morally impossible to deal with the cause of our problems.


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Posted by zusammen on Fri, 28 Sep 2007 20:10 | #

The virus is also adapt at suppressing immune system response. It is like a smart virus that comes prepared for immunity reaction. In some instances, it provokes immune response in order to explore new totalitarian avenues and cement control.

Nobody will compile a list composed entirely of people from the same protected EGI. There are many actors of various backgrounds.

The system dealt with Saddam Hussein and Slobodan Milosevic as individual actors. It did not consider their respective ethnic groups as a whole. The system has occasionally punished individual criminal actors (Pollard) from that special protected group.

Russia, apparently in the interest of its natives, has recently prosecuted high profile actors, the vast majority of whom hail from that special group. It may work for several hundreds of many different backgrounds, but who knows for sure at the concept stage?


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Fri, 28 Sep 2007 22:06 | #

I agree with Zusammen’s post of 6:19 PM, especially the opening sentence.  Apart from the richness of the plural intra-Euro racial capital deserving preservation, David Stennett’s disregard for intra-Euro race-preservation easily becomes disregard for Euro race preservation as a whole.  I’ve tried to say this in a few threads here and there — here‘s a recent attempt which came out clumsy.  Zusammen puts it better.  As regards this question, Scimitar, Rnl, CvH, and David Stennett seem to be on one side and I, Matra, Desmond, Zusammen, and Normal Lowell on the other (correct me if I’m wrong).


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Posted by desmond jones on Fri, 28 Sep 2007 22:36 | #

It’s situational Fred. What works in the US may not work in the UK, France or Germany. One size does not fit all. Rnl acknowledges that position for European nationals. The difference is that Rnl does not believe that Canada can employ the European model. However, unlike its American neighbour, Canada is already, de facto if not de jure, two European nations.


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Posted by Scimitar on Fri, 28 Sep 2007 23:08 | #

So what do WNists have to say about that?
-Matra

As regards this question, Scimitar, Rnl, CvH, and David Stennett seem to be on one side and I, Matra, Desmond, Zusammen, and Normal Lowell on the other (correct me if I’m wrong).
-Fred Scrooby

I prefer to call myself an American racialist, not a White Nationalist, but I will give you a college try.

A few weeks ago, I was joking with wintermute via AOL instant messenger about how Desmond reminds me in some ways of Orson Welles minus an imagination. I’m thinking here of his famous The War of the Worlds broadcast in 1938 that created hysteria throughout America about a Martian invasion.

Our scene: imagine a small, sleepy, traditionally English village somewhere in the sticks of Canada, say, on the prairie. A tall, blonde, green eyed, strikingly beautiful, young Dutch girl has arrived in town with wooden shoes and a suitcase. The poor girl doesn’t speak a word of English.

This is where Desmond kicks into action. He’s peering at her in the street through his curtains. His mind is diligently at work calculating the precise genetic distance between the Dutch and the English (mostly trivial, non-functional, random mutations). Before you know it, Desmond has jumped in his car and is racing towards the local radio station.

He takes to the microphone. In his most sinister voice, he announces: a non-Anglo, a young woman from Holland who cannot even speak English, who may or may not be an atheist, has arrived in our community. Quick, get out your pitchforks and chase her away before she corrupts your EGI!

The tornado sirens start to go off. Men and women dash out their houses, arms in the air, for their storm shelters.

Meanwhile, some young man has noticed the Dutch girl in the street and is smart enough to ask her out on a date.


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Posted by Scimitar on Fri, 28 Sep 2007 23:15 | #

Apart from the richness of the plural intra-Euro racial capital deserving preservation, David Stennett’s disregard for intra-Euro race-preservation easily becomes disregard for Euro race preservation as a whole.

Should an East Anglian be forbidden to breed with a Scot? Why?


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Fri, 28 Sep 2007 23:56 | #

I can take the opposite extreme also, Scim — let’s not play that game.  Should Poles race-replace Englishmen?  Should Englishmen race-replace Poles?  Those are the intra-European questions in this regard.  The answer to both is no, for reasons including the ones Zusammen and I gave, in addition to others.  You and Stennett make no provision for a no answer to that.  Zusammen is also one hundred percent right in saying it’s only a short step from not caring if France is race-replaced with Ukrainians to not caring if Europe is race-replaced with Nigerians.  As for “forbidding” marriage, no one’s talking about that.  In the world of race-replacement polemics we’re talking about numbers and how those numbers come about politically, never individuals.  One Negro won’t race-replace Britain and therefore I for one have no objection to his being there and marrying whoever wants to marry him, white or not:  none of it is any of my business.  Thirty million Negroes most certainly will race-replace Britain and therefore there’s something wrong with their being there, and that’s very much my business, as I have a stake in race-preservation.  It turns out if the people are listened to, thirty million Negroes won’t be there because if you put it to a clearly-worded non-PC non-obfuscatory referendum — which you should do in any case, regardless — the people will reject letting replacement volumes of the racially unlike into the country, so mass replacement won’t happen for that reason alone — the sound instincts of the people collectively expressing their wishes, provided those wishes are respected — and the question of “forbidding” anything never comes up in that case.  The problem with the current set-up is it’s being forced.  That’s the crux of the whole objection.  It’s being rammed down whole nations’, whole populations’ throats.  The people’s will is being overridden, spat on, time and time again without let-up.  That’s wrong as regards something as fundamental as wholesale race-change, and of course in purely practical terms it’s unwise, as it gets people including members of the middle-class, a portion of the upper-class, and a portion of the thinking class furious, so that these layers won’t function as brakes on the savagery when the revolution erupts full-bore.


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Posted by desmond jones on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 00:03 | #

Scimitar watching Negros play football.


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 00:11 | #

Each individual European race has its distinct inborn traits.


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 00:12 | #

(No, I wasn’t commenting there on Desmond’s photo ...)


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Posted by Scimitar on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 00:40 | #

I can take the opposite extreme also, Scim — let’s not play that game.  Should Poles race-replace Englishmen?  Should Englishmen race-replace Poles?  Those are the intra-European questions in this regard.  The answer to both is no, for reasons including the ones Zusammen and I gave, in addition to others.

Hmm. It would probably be a good idea to clarify my own racial position. At one extreme, you have the petty nationalists or ultra-parochial ethnotribalists who, like Desmond, cannot enjoy a football game, film, or a book unless it concerns their co-ethnics. At the other extreme, you have the White Nationalists who subscribe to the more cosmopolitan “our race is our nation” concept, and who do not feel any sense of loyalty to any particular nation, America included.

I find myself somewhere between these two poles. I’m concerned mostly with my own nation, although I do follow the race struggle elsewhere in the Occident, especially in Africa. You ask: should Poles race-replace Englishmen; should Englishmen race-replace Poles?

I would point out that Poles and Englishmen are different nationalities, not different races, so the question of race-replacement is not involved in this case. You’re talking about two ethnicities here who vary to some degree at the sub-racial level. My stance would be that this quarrel doesn’t concern me and should be left to Poles and Englishmen to sort out for themselves.

The ethnotribalist would exclude all non-Anglos because they are non-Anglos. His view is that my people are good, foreigners are bad, regardless of their actual virtues and vices. The White Nationalist would probably welcome ‘white’ immigrants and oppose exclusionary laws against them.

I’m more of a picker-and-chooser. Some racial elements are desirable. Some are not. The question that I would ask would be something like: is this person a racial plus or minus for America? I wouldn’t exclude the beautiful Dutch girl in the example above. I would welcome her and encourage her assimilation. As for the Anglo-Saxon retard, I would welcome his sterilization.

You and Stennett make no provision for a no answer to that.  Zusammen is also one hundred percent right in saying it’s only a short step from not caring if France is race-replaced with Ukrainians to not caring if Europe is race-replaced with Nigerians.

I don’t agree with that analogy. Some populations are more closely related to us than others. They assimilate easier. Others are incapable of assimilate. A Nigerian cannot become ‘white’. An Englishman can. A Swede can. No one is proposing that the French and Ukrainians switch places, so you are attacking a straw man here.

As for “forbidding” marriage, no one’s talking about that.

This is non-responsive. You didn’t answer my question.

In the world of race-replacement polemics we’re talking about numbers and how those numbers come about politically, never individuals.  One Negro won’t race-replace Britain and therefore I for one have no objection to his being there and marrying whoever wants to marry him, white or not:  none of it is any of my business.

I would be in favor of total exclusion of the negro… from citizenship. Obviously, travel exceptions would have to be made for foreign ambassadors, diplomatic staff, students studying abroad, foreign businessmen, and the like.

Thirty million Negroes most certainly will race-replace Britain and therefore there’s something wrong with their being there, and that’s very much my business, as I have a stake in race-preservation.  It turns out if the people are listened to, thirty million Negroes won’t be there because if you put it to a clearly-worded non-PC non-obfuscatory referendum — which you should do in any case, regardless — the people will reject letting replacement volumes of the racially unlike into the country, so mass replacement won’t happen for that reason alone — the sound instincts of the people collectively expressing their wishes, provided those wishes are respected — and the question of “forbidding” anything never comes up in that case.

I’m sure everyone here, or at least almost everyone, would oppose thirty million negroes settling in Britain. If you’re saying that a Dane is on the same level as a negro, I completely disagree.

The problem with the current set-up is it’s being forced.  That’s the crux of the whole objection.

That’s not my objection. I would oppose thirty million negroes settling in Britain even if it was voluntary and the British themselves welcomed it. In my view, that would justify foreign military intervention to thwart that from happening.

It’s being rammed down whole nations’, whole populations’ throats.  The people’s will is being overridden, spat on, time and time again without let-up.  That’s wrong as regards something as fundamental as wholesale race-change, and of course in purely practical terms it’s unwise, as it gets people including members of the middle-class, a portion of the upper-class, and a portion of the thinking class furious, so that these layers won’t function as brakes on the savagery when the revolution erupts full-bore.

Are you saying that in your eyes a German immigrant is on the same level as a negro? That’s absurd.


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Posted by Matra on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 00:41 | #

For me it is not about EGI as we are all Europeans. In Canada there was an unofficial policy and in Australia an official policy not to allow in non-whites. However these Anglo-Saxon permitted Europeans, including Mediterraneans and Slavs to enter so clearly the Anglos considered them to be closer to us than non-whites. The problem is that those ethnic Europeans did not reciprocate. In Canada they as communities have always sided with non-whites against Anglo-Saxons (and in Quebec the French). In Australia it appears to be the same. I recall reading from a book on Australian multiculturalism an article by some Ukrainian spokeswoman condemning the racism of historian Geoffrey Blainey yet from what I remember he only opposed Asian immigration. That’s the way it works in Canada too. The ‘we’re all in the same boat’ mentality reigns among any group identifiably different from the majority. Let’s not forget Italians siding with Lebanese Muslims against white Aussies in the beach riot a year or so ago.

In the US there appears to be fewer intra-European problems but that has not been the case in the past. When JFK was getting involved in politics his father Joe was sure that being an Irish Catholic he would pick up the non-Anglo-Saxon Protestant white vote. Why would Italians, Poles, and Greeks be so willing to vote for the ethnically Irish JFK? Either because he was non-Anglo-Saxon or because he was not Protestant or both. A disproportionate number of them did indeed vote for him, as did more than 90% of Jews, and he immediately set to work on changing US immigration policies culminating in the 1965 act after his death. So tell me how did America’s diversity of whites benefit white America in the long run? It may not be relevant in the US today (Italians for example appear to be well represented among immigration restrictionists) but it is still an issue in Canada and, apparently, Australia and now England.

We could maybe even extend this argument to countries like France where the largely secular Protestant (Huguenot) community, which has a different history from French Catholics, usually sides with immigrants against the French majority just as they, in the past, aways sided with Jews and anticlerical groups against Catholics. Many a conservative southern Irish Protestant votes for the Irish left (Mary Robinson was well liked by southern Protestants) even though if they were in Northern Ireland where Prods are majority they’d be right wing Paisleyites.

Homogeneity means common perception of threats. Heterogeneous societies are always more divided on what constitutes a threat.


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Posted by Peak District on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 01:08 | #

Matra: For me it is not about EGI as we are all Europeans.

Terrific! How long has Matra been blogging here?

Obviously long enough to have forgotten all that GW has written about the English and EGI. (Perhaps only possible because GW hasn’t ever told us who the English ARE…).

I’m thinking “Do individual ethnies have specific (and valuable) EGIs” needs as thorough a re-debate as “Are Jews White.”

What the hell are Jews, Whites, and Ethnies?


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Posted by Scimitar on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 01:22 | #

In the US there appears to be fewer intra-European problems but that has not been the case in the past.

In the United States, we have a notorious Jewish problem. Most European immigrants who came here assimilated and became ‘white’. This wasn’t true of the Jews. They preserved their own distinctiveness and worked to overthrow racialism and reconceptualize America along cosmopolitan lines.

When JFK was getting involved in politics his father Joe was sure that being an Irish Catholic he would pick up the non-Anglo-Saxon Protestant white vote. Why would Italians, Poles, and Greeks be so willing to vote for the ethnically Irish JFK? Either because he was non-Anglo-Saxon or because he was not Protestant or both. A disproportionate number of them did indeed vote for him, as did more than 90% of Jews, and he immediately set to work on changing US immigration policies culminating in the 1965 act after his death.

Browse this electoral map of the 1960 presidential election:

http://www.presidentelect.org/e1960.html

Kennedy carried Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Texas, Arkansas, West Virginia, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Illinois, Michigan and other states. Nixon carried Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, and Florida, but also Iowa, Wisconsin, Tennessee, and most of the West. The Anglo-Saxon us vs. them theory makes no sense. Americans of Anglo-Saxon ancestry supported both Kennedy and Nixon. Actually, the whole concept of an ‘Anglo-American’ is a multiculturalist fiction which when you think about it, as ‘Anglo-Americans’ think of themselves as Americans and nothing else.

The major divide in America over ‘civil rights’ has always been regional. The coalition in favor of ‘immigration reform’ has been spearheaded by the Jews and some European ethnic hanger ons, but also by the business community and white liberals.

So tell me how did America’s diversity of whites benefit white America in the long run?

That has never been the major problem in America. The problem here is liberalism-democracy-capitalism whose major boosters have often been, and often still are, short-sighted Anglo-Saxons.

It may not be relevant in the US today (Italians for example appear to be well represented among immigration restrictionists) but it is still an issue in Canada and, apparently, Australia and now England.

It is probably less relevant than ever before because of the decline of European immigration and intermarriage. Ted Kennedy is an elderly man.

Look at the most prominent faces in the immigration restrictionist camp: Buchanan, the Irish Catholic; Stein, the Jew; Brimelow, the Anglo; Krikorian, the Armenian; Beck, not sure what he is; Gheen, not sure of his ancestry.


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Posted by Al Ross on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 01:25 | #

The BNP should target their recruiting efforts at the legal and voting-eligible EU diaspora in Britain. Many of the recent arrivals have first hand experience, both back home and in Britain, of unwanted interaction with Albanians, Gypsies, Negroes and the various other sorts of anthropoid refuse that fetches up illegally, or through criminally insane asylum policies, in Britain.


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 01:40 | #

The ability to perceive the difference of inborn characteristics from one Euro race to another isn’t given to everyone.  It’s not given to David Stennett.  It’s not given to Scimitar.  No, I’m not interested in “data.”  I’m not interested in “studies.”  I’m interested in sense.  I’m interested in pairs of functioning eyes.  Oh yes, and I’m interested in eyes that line up with the holes.  When you have sense, and eyes that line up with the holes, you see that an Eastern Fleming’s inborn traits differ from a Western Fleming’s, a Prod Ulsterman’s from a Catholic Ulsterman’s, an Englishman’s from a Welshman’s, and a Wisconsin German’s from a South Carolina Anglo’s.  And don’t talk to me about “studies” and “data” because it’s with my common sense and my two eyes that I’ll tell you if your “studies” and your “data” are right or wrong.  I don’t need “studies” or “data” to know the sky is blue, the wind blows, water is wet, or two plus two equals four.


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Posted by Aler Rosser on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 01:42 | #

Al, if the BNP do seek the immigrant vote, we should send a clear message to them by rejecting their cynical ploy and unite as a new nation with Lats and Poles. That’ll piss Labour!


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 01:47 | #

“ ‘Do individual ethnies have specific (and valuable) EGIs?’ needs as thorough a re-debate as ‘Are Jews White?’ “  (—Peak District)

No it doesn’t.  What needs a debate is race-replacement, nothing else.  And not a re-debate, a debate:  you can’t re-debate what never was debated (because never allowed to be).


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Posted by Freda Scriber on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 01:51 | #

Fred - what do your all-seeing eyes tell you about the innate racial differences between the ‘European races’?

Are you wiser than Tacitus or Homer?


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Posted by Peak District on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 01:58 | #

F-S: And not a re-debate, a debate:  you can’t re-debate what never was debated (because never allowed to be).

If EGI has not been endlessly debated here, its implications have been endlessly stated. If EGI has not been debated -here of all places- I can understand Matra’s confusion.

Stop posting about ‘race-replacement’ Fred - it’s not allowed. Hubba hubba.


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 02:22 | #

“GW hasn’t ever told us who the English ARE”  (—Trough District)

No need to tell us “who the English ARE.”  Everyone knows who they are.  They’re who lived in England before race-replacement began and are the ones still living there except for the ones sent in by the government to replace them. 

“What the hell are Jews, Whites, and Ethnies?”  (—idem)

Take your race-denial elsewhere, Trough.  We’re frankly not in the mood, thank you very much I’m sure.


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 02:26 | #

Freda Scriber is of course our old friend “GnXp Stinks,” et al.


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Posted by Scimitar on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 02:27 | #

Fred,

What is the essential Frenchman? France is composed of various sub-races. If you drive from Provence to Normandy, you will notice the French change in complexion. Culture and ancestry do not neatly overlap in much of Europe, or throughout the world, for that matter. See Francophone Africa.

In your view, what should be done about poor Belgium? Should the Flemings and Walloons be segregated from each other, not allowed to intermarry? You seem to be running two concepts together here: EGI and Romantic nationalism.

I’m not sure how different the Flemings and Walloons are at the genetic level, but the cultural divide between them in language (an acquired characteristic) has nothing to do with heredity. Were it not for these cultural differences, they would behave as a homogeneous population.

I don’t see how the white/negro divide can be honestly compared to, say, the Fleming/Walloon or Irish Catholic/Ulster Protestant division.


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 02:30 | #

“Stinks,” is there some reason you can’t choose one of your two-dozen or so aliases and stick with it?


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 02:32 | #

On this question, Scim, you’re identical with Stennett.


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 02:33 | #

I’m not responding to the “forbidden to intermarry” nonsense.  I’ve explained myself.


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Posted by Peak District on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 02:46 | #

Fred sed: No need to tell us “who the English ARE.” Everyone knows who they are.  They’re who lived in England before race-replacement began and are the ones still living there except for the ones sent in by the government to replace them.

Precisely which govt Fred? John Major’s? - So Lord Taylor is English? And do your English include Jews? Or the occasional Elizabethan nigger? Or straying Welshman? Or Huguenot?

You have taken it upon yourself to answer the question - who are the English? Do so. 

“What the hell are Jews, Whites, and Ethnies?” (—idem)

Take your race-denial elsewhere, Trough.  We’re frankly not in the mood, thank you very much I’m sure.

Bring on your race and ethnie definitions Freda… that’s where I came in.


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 02:46 | #

“I’m not sure how different the Flemings and Walloons are at the genetic level, but the cultural divide between them in language (an acquired characteristic) has nothing to do with heredity. Were it not for these cultural differences, they would behave as a homogeneous population.”

Here, Scim demonstrates he knows nothing about race.

Who said language has nothing to do with heredity?  Who says populations of genetically distinct people speak languages the same way as each other?  Who says even if they could be brought to speak a given language the same way they’d still speak it the same way at some future point?  Languages are affected by inborn traits such as the physical apparatus for vocaliztion, as well as temperament, personality, intelligence, hormonal flux, inborn central-nervous-system circuits, and others.


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Posted by Scimitar on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 02:50 | #

FS,

Who is Stennett? I’m not of the view that all ‘whites’ are interchangeable. I think some populations are so closely related that the differences between them are largely cultural. I don’t have any objection to, say, Fleming/Walloon intermarriage or English/Dutch intermarriage.

Obviously, Poles and Slovaks are further removed from the English than the Danes or Dutch are. Where do we draw the line? What level of immigration is desirable? How salient are intra-European differences in heredity?

This often runs into the question of Romantic nationalism which I mentioned in previous posts. European nationalists often take cultural, non-hereditary traits like language, national flags, religion, favorite drinks, folk dances and so forth and use them as a basis of tribalism. This has a balkanizing effect which has unfortunately been the cause of several recent catastrophes - which in turn led to a serious backlash against racialism, hereditarianism, and nationalism generally.


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 02:52 | #

“answer the question - who are the English? Do so.”

Already done. 

“that’s where I came in.”

Good, here’s where you can go out.


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Posted by PkDst on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 02:59 | #

Fred - I see why you think I’m stinks. I seem to be mocking your stubborn profession of confusion about your (non) distinction between race and ethny. But you’re wrong.

As it happens I thought Holliday/stinks was cruel in mocking you for your decision to consider negroes another species and the European nations different races; Holliday/Rienzi wrote an article in his Legion Europa days justifying just such a position.

...Columbo.


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Posted by Scimitar on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 03:01 | #

Who said language has nothing to do with heredity?  Who says populations of genetically distinct people speak languages the same way as each other?

Language is an acquired characteristic. My mother can speak fluent German. I can read and understand German, but have difficulty with pronunciation. I’m better with French. Does that imply that my English-speaking genes are dominant over my German-speaking genes; that I have a Frenchman in the woodpile? No, it does not. There are no genes for specific languages. Invoking heredity in this case is non-explanatory.

Who says even if they could be brought to speak a given language the same way they’d still speak it the same way at some future point?  Languages are affected by inborn traits such as the physical apparatus for vocaliztion, as well as temperament, personality, intelligence, hormonal flux, inborn central-nervous-system circuits, and others.

There is no such thing as a hereditary “French” personality or “German” personality.


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 03:01 | #

“I don’t have any objection to, say, Fleming/Walloon intermarriage or English/Dutch intermarriage.”

You keep couching the issue in terms of fobidding intermarriage.  The issue is race-replacement immigration, no solution of which envisions forbidding intermarriage.  Forbidding intermarriage (done by explicitly race-preserving countries with Nuremberg-type Laws such as Israel) may have justification but that’s a different topic.

“European nationalists often take cultural, non-hereditary traits like language, national flags, religion, favorite drinks, folk dances [...].”

<strike>Non-hereditary</strike>.  Every one of those is partly genetically influenced.


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Posted by Scimitar on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 03:04 | #

You believe the Flemings and Walloons are different races? What about the Danes and the English?


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 03:04 | #

A certain subtlety is needed to perceive some of these racial things, Scim, the inbornness of some of these national/group traits.  You’ll learn to perceive them or not, over time.


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 03:07 | #

For now, don’t worry about it and don’t bore the readership with it.  You’ve got the white-Negro thing down, and that’s the main thing.


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Posted by Catalan Wally on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 03:07 | #

Scimitar asks: Where do we draw the line?

But those are questions asked of ‘racialists,’ and ‘family men.’ If you know an answer is impossible for the intermediate category at least one of the outer categories will have you stumped…


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Posted by CatalanDistrict on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 03:13 | #

I bow out with a notice that Freda who demands Europe for whites generally supports Fade who demands Africa for white expansion. Clueless bitches!


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 03:13 | #

Scim, David Stennett (spelling?) is a National-Bolshevik/Imperivm-Evropa colleague of Big Von’s who loathes that which you see as “petty European nationalisms.”  He’s apparently some kind of big shot who is close to Normal Lowell.  I consider him a zero.  (I like Lowell.)


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 03:15 | #

Norman Lowell.


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 03:25 | #

It would’ve been simpler if Red Light District had posted his comments under the same name.


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Posted by Scimitar on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 03:47 | #

It would’ve been simpler if Red Light District had posted his comments under the same name.

The troll problem here is becoming tiresome. If you would like to continue our discussion, start a thread on the OCD forum.


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Posted by desmond jones on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 07:00 | #

Why is it that supposed white “racialist” continue to finance, encourage, support and pander to blacks playing football, when they know full well that their “people” are being discriminated against?

“We counted the number of times broadcasters, coaches, and journalists referred to white wide receivers in terms we consider stereotypical,” said Marco in a phone interview Tuesday. “What we found was astonishing: over 83 percent of the time any statement was made it referred to the terms we consider to be a negative stereotype about ‘white’ wide receivers.”

The list of terms used to describe wide receivers included:

–”Posession receiver”

–”Team player”

–”Not the most talented guy in the world”

–”Deceptive speed”

–”Gritty”

–”Slow-ass, tiny-penised, Bass Pro Shop sticker-havin’ cracker zombie”

And yet time and time again dumbass white boys in the football crazed South go to game after game, drunk and delusional about the athleticism of his generations’ great Negro, decrying criticism of such action as petty racist ideology. Go figure.

If they didn’t know the Negros hated the petite-pecker cracker zombie white asses before the recent tirade from Isaiah Thomas, well they sure as shootin’ know it now.

Browne Sanders said Thomas bristled at her efforts to get players to turn out for corporate events scheduled long before he took over the team in December 2003.

“Bitch, I don’t give a f—k about the sponsors ...” Browne Sanders testified Thomas told her. “I don’t give a f—k about ticket sales.”

She also said Thomas rebuffed her March 2004 request that he sign renewal-request letters sent out to past season ticket holders with a pointed shot at loyal Knick fans.

“Bitch, I don’t give a f—k about these white people,” Browne Sanders said Thomas told her.

What was the number last Saturday at Bryant-Denny, 125,000 fucking dumbass crackers?

“Bitch, I don’t give a f—k about these white people…”  smile


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Posted by Top on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 07:25 | #

“Obviously, Poles and Slovaks are further removed from the English than the Danes or Dutch are. Where do we draw the line? What level of immigration is desirable?”

All immigration needs to be governed by an equation.  The equation needs to be determined by the most intelligent/wise patriots a country can find for the task.  What we have today is chaos.  It’s based on business greed, immigrant/jewish lobbies, and the forced/manufactured silence of the majority.  This is all wrong and needs to change.  Universities have a tougher selection process than many immigration departments.  It’s a discrace.

The equation will determine how many immigrants (if any) from different etnic groups/cultures will be admitted.  It needs to be based on genes first , culture second, and behaviour third.  Every ethnic group/culture will then be assigned a number of how many people are admitted.  This number will also depend on how many people of that group came in previous years and what their effect was on the population.  For this we can use criminal rates, population growth rates, and any other indicators.  IMO the equation needs to be overly conserative.  The equation would thus address the distance away factor.  For example, a country like Britain may decide to allow no more than 20 Africans a year, for Asians the number may jump to up to 50, and for East Europeans the number could jump to a few hundred, for West Europeans to a few thousand.  Religions and political orientation should also be taken into account.  And as I said the numbers would be adjusted on group behaviour, assimilation, etc in teh previous X years.

The equation would not be perfect, but that’s fine.  What we have today is just pure idiocracy so anything new would be an improvement.  The number one enemy of this process would be corruption.  Special interest and business (which is is in many cases special interest in a different costume) would try to corrupt this process day and night.  They would lean on elected officials, they would bribe, threaten, use every underhanded tactic available to them.  It’s a weakness of the system and this weakness needs to be addressed.

Is it possible to this?  It is if there is enough will it is!  The seeds are being planted.  What I think today hundreds will think tomorrow.  It’s the only way out out of a very violent/poor future.


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Posted by Top on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 07:47 | #

Of course when I say Western European or Eastern Europeans I am not talking about the Arab living in France or the Gypsy living in Romania.  They would automatically be classified as Asians.  Genes are the number part of this equation and I would go as far as having genetic tests done.  The Israelis do this already.    The broad categories themselves would be closely studied, divided and specific numbers would be assigned to each subgroup.  Western Europe for example would be divided into categories such as French Protestants, Spanish Basque, Northern Italian etc…  Obviously this would be a complex task entrusted to fully functioning immigration department.  I am just outlining the idea here, not the specifics.

This would govern all legal immigration.  Illegal immigration would have to be addresses by another initiative.


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Posted by Guessedworker on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 09:40 | #

There has been some call for a clean delineation of the European ethnies.  This is possible genetically and it is possible through detailed phenotypic recognition of a type of which we are all capable.  JW tended to the notion that we could, in theory at least, self-discover through genetic assay.  I’m a bit more pragmatic than that, and tend to the opinion that we are ordinarily equipped with some extremely capable antennae for the same work, and that Nature is perfectly good enough.

These antennae pick up genetic distinctiveness.  Ben Tillman made the excellent point quite a while ago that distinctiveness, however subtle, is a genetic interest.  Distinctiveness as it is manifest in visual appearance - also in certain behavioural traits where such are non-acquired - is like a range of rocky pinnacles rising out of the general cloud cover of a more regional European ethnicity.  By them we can quite precisely discriminate for our own kind.  All of us can do this.  An uncomplicated working man with a double-digit IQ is as nuanced in the recognition of his co-ethnics’ distinctive traits as the keenest and most race-conscious Euro-survivalist.  It’s an enhancement selected precisely because there are clines as well as clusters in human population genetics.


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 12:20 | #

“I would oppose thirty million negroes settling in Britain even if it was voluntary and the British themselves welcomed it.”  (—Scim)

They would never welcome it, assuming the people were informed of all the issues.  If they were honestly and completely informed of all the issues, their assenting to that would be like letting go of a brick you were holding in your hand and seeing it fall up instead of down:  theoretically possible according to quantum mechanics, but ain’t gonna happen in this world.  If the Negroes are there, it was not by the people’s informed consent.  It was by an élite alliance forcing their presence, that alliance’s members including many of our old friends such as the clueless women voters (never should have been given the vote without certain anti-race-replacement protections written into the rules of the game, because clueless women will NEVER oppose race-replacement as men instinctively always will), the vengeance-seeking Jews, the faux-self-abnegating Christians (“Christian self-abnegation” which is really just pure selfishness, such as that which smiles benignly on wholesale genocide, is faux-self-abnegation, obviously:  sorry, Christians, but pure selfishness, egotism, and greed don’t qualify as self-agnegation — if you still don’t understand what your two-faced defects are in this regard, read some Nietzsche:  he gets into it quite a bit; he’s “got your number,” as they say), the homosexuals (who prefer race-replacement because Negroes have bigger dicks, are more exotic-looking than bland boring white-bread white people and homos love to cultivate a taste for the exotic because they rightly see doing so as effeminate, and Negroes make a good weapon wherewith to exact sweet demographic revenge on white men whom homos see as violent hateful persecuters and gay-bashers), the greedy globalist-capitalists (so many of whom are Jews that in fact this category melds to a large extent into the Jewish category:  we can’t be certain globalist-capitalists would be out to race-replace Euros if they, the capitalists, were one hundred percent Euro as a class:  my guess is they wouldn’t, and this principle is the explanation why you don’t see the globalist-capitalist class trying to force race-replacement specifically on Israel:  too many of them are Jews and they see Israel as part of themselves, something they don’t want to destroy, not as an ancient enemy, the way they see Euros, something they’ve been itching to destroy for two thousand years and more; thus does Israel get off scot-free with its Nuremberg Laws, the exact laws for which the Jews genocided Germany though Morgenthau’s and Ilya Ehrenberg’s implementation of the Kaufman plan hatched before there were concentration camps, so a reaction to the Nuremberg Laws:  what Jew genocided Germans for, they think is fine for Israel to do).


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 13:44 | #

“Freda who demands Europe for whites generally supports [Scimitar] who demands Africa for white expansion.”  (—Red Light District)

I generally support Scimitar, yes.  Regarding his ideas about Africa, however, I differ somewhat.  I fully support the Boers obviously, and want to save them.  But in general I’m not so sure Euro peoples ought to be colonizing that continent.  Part of the reason is Euros are a temperate-zone people not meant for the tropics.  This is also why I don’t think those ante-bellum Southerners who wanted to take over more of Mexico were on the right track:  in the tropics whites have a harder time, don’t thrive as well; their natural milieu is the temperate zone.

Top’s comments are excellent.  However, two things:  1) the ideal is no immigration, zero, whether from kindred or less kindred races:  a population reproduces itself and doesn’t need surrogate mothers making its babies for it.  Its mothers and dads can make their own babies thank you, just as many as you could want.  It a population isn’t reproducing itself, government policies are to blame and must be looked at by experts and amended (tax policies, abortion policies, general fiscal and a vast array of social policies, immigration policies, and so on, can all have a negative impact on birth rates); 2) Although the ideal is zero immigration, clearly small numbers will want to immigrate and ought to be permitted to do so where they are racially/ethnoculturally compatible folk.  Where Negroes are concerned, I’d oppose immigration for any reason, even small numbers.  No Negroes.  Zero.  (Top would allow a Negro quota, albeit very small.  I’d oppose one.)


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Posted by Fr. John on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 14:33 | #

“As for “forbidding” marriage, no one’s talking about that.” 

Oh yes, we are! God declared in the pages of Holy Writ that the Israelites of old were NOT to ‘marry and give in marriage’ to those outside of the Ethnic/Racial strain of the twelve tribes- indeed, there was concern that even those in ANOTHER of the “Chosen People’s” tribes, should not marry outside of their tribe! St. Paul wrote that their praxis was written ‘for our example, on whom the ends of the age have come.’ Ethnic Orthodoxy has LONG held to this biblical view, the Russians clearly noted it in their concept of ‘narodnost’ and the West, while they were more lax, maintained it, even in the perversion of the ‘individualist salvation-by-grace’ protestants, until around 1865…


“In the world of race-replacement polemics we’re talking about numbers and how those numbers come about politically, never individuals.”

Have you EVER read the story of the man who asked for only one grain of rice on a square of the chessboard, and then ‘merely’ asked for each succeeding square to have that rice doubled? Within 16 squares, the amount of rice needed to fulfill his request was more than a kingdom could supply!

Individuals BECOME masses, and ONE becomes a Trillion in VERY SHORT SHRIFT, by sheer mathematical duplication (Procreation) One could be genocided, with these POV’s!

“One Negro won’t race-replace Britain and therefore I for one have no objection to his being there and marrying whoever wants to marry him, white or not:  none of it is any of my business.”

I am of the opinion that now we have available DNA testing, anyone with Negroid ancestry should be barred from communicant membership in a Christian Church, in that they are not of the ‘tribe,’ (however you decide that ‘tribe’ to be- merely Anglo-Saxon, Aryan race purists, Christian Identity ‘Europe is Biblical Israel,’ etc.) and their ONE procreating strain is the VERY thing that SCRIPTURE forbids us to engage in! [Leaving aside those multiculti CULT congregations that have confused biblical worship with the Whore of Babylon’s miscegenation efforts.)

One Negro, if you see the light, (and not the darkness- pun intended) WILL race-replace Britain. It’s already happening.


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Posted by Fr. John on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 14:39 | #

“is this person a racial plus or minus for America? I wouldn’t exclude the beautiful Dutch girl in the example above. I would welcome her and encourage her assimilation. As for the Anglo-Saxon retard, I would welcome his sterilization.”

Wasn’t this the policy of American Immigration from about 1920 until Kennedy (via Jewish whores) introduced, along with HHH, the 1965 Immigration ‘Reform’ Bill?

I believe it is, and it was what made America great. I am of the opinion that the different ‘tribes’ can assimilate, but that (nevertheless) Midwest girls are prettier than New England beauties, IMHO… precisely because I COME from that area, and therefore, are ‘of my tribe’- even if only geographically speaking.

My wife and children are genetic evidence of that fact, and one which I am at pains to teach congregants who have ‘ears to hear.’


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Posted by Fr. John on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 14:53 | #

“What the hell are Jews, Whites, and Ethnies?’ (—idem)

‘Take your race-denial elsewhere, Trough.  We’re frankly not in the mood, thank you very much I’m sure.’”

Au contraire, Freddy baby!

You truly are NOT a ‘Mensch.’ I used that term earlier on, when you denigrated my qualifications as a Cleric, precisely because it has YIDDISH overtones! I chose my appelation with great care, for I perceieved then it had NOTHING to do with my legitimacy, and all about your HATRED for Christendom. I now smell the gefilte fish, and it’s rotten to the core.

Jews are NOT whites, they are NOT Europeans, or if they are- or appear to be, they have CONSCIOUSLY attempted to deny the Genetic UGLINESS that has been the ‘mark of Cain’ for millenia. In other words, HIDING THEIR ETHNIC IDENTITY. Was your name something other than SCROOBY before you changed it, perhaps? Like, a name ending in -berg, -witz, or -stein? Hmmm?

Jews themselves (cf. Kosteler’s “The Thirteenth Tribe”) KNOW that they are Khazarians - a TURKIC tribe- by and large, and the Sephardim, (who are in the minority of Jews today) are STILL race-mixers, miscegenationists, Kol Nidrei ‘oath-breakers,’ and are therefore, not to be trusted.

I have no patience with those who want to embrace the DEICIDES, for ANY reason. Perle, Wolfowitz, Blitzer, Novack, Chertoff, and all the rest of their accursed race have DESTROYED this nation, in less time than it took to build the Second Temple!

Truly, the Curse is ‘on them, and on their children.’ As one Israeli punk said in a You Tube Video,
“We killed Christ- we’ll kill you, too!”

A race that crucifies their Messiah, is one NEVER TO BE TRUSTED. 2000 years of Christendom’s witness to that event, is all the proof I need. And your puerile ‘apologia pro Deicide sua’ is such a transparent judaizing effort to delude others on this board,  that I ‘am not in the mood for’ it, either.

Anathema sit on the whole sordid mess, known as Jewry.
Only you know if you fall under that ecclesial censure.


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 14:59 | #

Fr. John, I have nothing whatsoever against rejection of interracial marriage by personal choice, by religious stricture, or by government statute as in National Socialist Germany’s or National Socialist Israel’s Nuremberg Laws.  I favor the latter.  The point I was making was simply that to address the current race-replacement crisis the notion of officially outlawing miscegenation need not come up at all.


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 15:11 | #

“And your puerile ‘apologia pro Deicide sua’ is such a transparent judaizing effort to delude others on this board,”  (—“Fr.” John)

That’s nonsense.  You’re having some kind of hallucination.

“Was your name something other than SCROOBY before you changed it,”

Scrooby’s not my name but the name of a town in England.  I took it as a pen name.  My name is a not-uncommon German one, in my case belonging to an old, very bourgeois, very Catholic German family in the southern Rheinland.  I don’t identify as an Anglo-Saxon — never did, never will.  I’m not one.  I’m certainly not Jewish.


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 15:23 | #

I used to identify as an American.  But the Jews took that away from me.  The Jews succeeded in making it that to identify as an American now, you have to identify as a Negro.  I’ll certainly never identify as a Negro, so that’s out.  I always sort of identified as a German along with American.  A German-American, if you will.  I think that’s the term, although German-Americans aren’t generally into ethnic whining in the style of other “hyphenated Americans” — they just generally shut up and get on with it.  There were different ethnic influences on me growing up (aside from what was the main thing, namely, simply being American), the strongest coming from my German family, so that’s how I identified, after just “American.”  Over the past couple of years, actually, since learning about the other side to the whole WW II story thanks to joining the Großdeutsches Vaterland forum (before being kicked out by someone named Scolex and another person named the Swedish witch) my sense of German identity has strengthened enormously.  I can’t identify as an American as long as the Jews are making America into a Negro country.


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Posted by Rusty on Sun, 30 Sep 2007 03:46 | #

Fred,

Can you recommend a good German blog or news site?

Dankesehr


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sun, 30 Sep 2007 04:37 | #

Rusty, here are a couple.  There’s a good list of more of them at the Großdeutsches Vaterland site but I can’t go and retrieve it for you, as Scolex and the Swedish witch have IP-banned me from setting foot there.  Maybe someone else can go get it for you:  the site is linked in Scimitar’s links list (the OCD blog).


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Posted by Wunderhund on Sun, 30 Sep 2007 17:30 | #

Here in the USA the many different European immigrants have blended together quite harmoniously over the years.  We’re all Americans.  Well, we used to be, until American citizenship was redefined as universal, applying equally to the hordes of Third World invaders recently arrived.

However, American whites did creat a true ‘Pan-European’ identity.  There are traces of English, Irish, German, French, etc but mostly what matters is ‘White’.  This is something that the Europeans can benefit from.

Europeans need to make a similar shift in their core identity.  There has to be some kind of growing awareness that, as Europeans, we share a lot more in common than our ethnic differences.  Europeans have been indulging in fratricides forever.  That has to stop. 

I’m not saying that all European tribes should blend together.  Not at all.  But in the light of the massive non-white invasion of the European homelands it makes a lot more sense for, say, the English to acknowledge the European identity of the Eastern European immigrants and to make allies of them in a common battle against the non-whites, than to lump them in the same camp with non-whites as ‘bloody foreigners’. 

I just read the book ‘1453’ about the fall of Constantinople.  The main reason that the Turks were successful in conquering Constantinople was due to the European mercenaries in their service, esp. the cannon makers.
We Europeans have a miserable history of ethnic infighting and fratricide.  This nonsense has to stop.  Otherwise, we Europeans will be defeated by the old rule of divide and conquer.  We will be submerged by the ‘rising tide of color’.

We are doomed, unless we all make the paradigm shift to a Pan-European identity.
That’s it.


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sun, 30 Sep 2007 18:17 | #

Wunderhund, they don’t need any “shift in their core identity.”  That’s wrong.  All they have to do is very simply recognize, as you do, that other races of Euro are closer to them than Negroes/mulattoes, Orientals, or Subcons (or ‘groids, ‘gloids, and ‘loids, respectively, as I saw it put somewhere recently, referring to Negroids, Mongoloids, and Australoids [= Subcons].) 

(By that more “hip” terminology, I guess whites would be ‘soids, short for Caucasoids.  On second thought I think I’ll stick with the standard terms ...)


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sun, 30 Sep 2007 18:23 | #

For the individual distinct Euro races to efface themselves in favor of a uniform “Euro race” would be the first step on the road to their extinction.  They should not get into the habit of thinking of themselves as “generic Euros.”  Definitely not.  The day they do that, you can kiss the Euro race good-bye because it won’t be too long afterward that it’ll disappear.


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Posted by Guessedworker on Sun, 30 Sep 2007 19:08 | #

Wunderhand writes: However, American whites did creat a true ‘Pan-European’ identity.  There are traces of English, Irish, German, French, etc but mostly what matters is ‘White’.  This is something that the Europeans can benefit from.

Europeans need to make a similar shift in their core identity.  There has to be some kind of growing awareness that, as Europeans, we share a lot more in common than our ethnic differences.

I am impressed with the Canada-centred observations of Matra and Desmond Jones on the level of solidarity that actually obtains between Europeans.  It is not an issue of genetic similarity/dissimilarity.  European peoples, like any peoples, compete for resources. The key issue is hegemony.  If a disadvantaged people cannot obtain its desire against a genetically similar neighbour, it will use genetically distant populations as a tool, if at all possible.  Ukranians and Italians in Canada, and Irish in America will all use Jews and negroes, Chinese, Subcons et al to weaken the dominant group.  It’s the same with the Walloons against the Flemish.

That’s the real lesson we need to take on board.  European ethnies should be singularly related to their homelands, and intra-ethnic conflict has to be resolved according to the strength of the parties themselves.  There should be NO Third World populations in Europe which might serve in the role of ethnic bludgeon.


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Posted by Scimitar on Mon, 01 Oct 2007 03:41 | #

I am impressed with the Canada-centred observations of Matra and Desmond Jones on the level of solidarity that actually obtains between Europeans.

I disagree. Canada’s ethnic problems are not generalizable. Louisiana is not Québec. The antagonism between Irish Catholics and Ulster Protestants has evaporated in the United States. Tribalism is innate. The focal point of tribalism is not. It can take various forms.


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Posted by desmond (dennis the menace) jones on Mon, 01 Oct 2007 04:46 | #

Canada’s ethnic problems are not generalizable.

Neither are the US’s.

Louisiana is not Québec.

Obviously. The demographics are enormously different.

The antagonism between Irish Catholics and Ulster Protestants has evaporated in the United States.

Mitigated by great distances. If Ulster Protestants lived in Spain and Irish Catholics in Norway competition for resources would vanish.

Tribalism is innate. The focal point of tribalism is not. It can take various forms.

For instance?


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Posted by desmond jones on Mon, 01 Oct 2007 05:16 | #

FDNY firefighter Michael Moran touched more people than he could know with his words to Osama bin Laden at last weekend’s benefit Concert for New York.

He summed it up for everybody when he spoke his message to bin Laden: “Kiss my royal Irish ass!”

Moran’s words drew wild applause from the crowd, and have continued to draw attention from others as the media spreads his story.

The firefighter said he was sitting in the audience at Madison Square Garden,shortly before his turn to go up on stage to introduce a band. While he waited, he kept thinking about how much he wanted to say something for those that he lost in the September 11 attacks: his brother Battalion Chief John Moran, 12 firefighters from his own Ladder 3 and Battalion 6, and about 20 players from the fire department’s football team.

He said his now famous quote comes from an old expression used in his neighborhood of Rockaway, Queens, which he hasn’t spoken in a very long time. But the phrase popped into his head Saturday, when the time was right.

“Kiss my royal Irish ass!”

Interesting. Moran could have said “Kiss my white ass” or “Kiss my American ass” but he didn’t. His identifier was ethnic/tribal/Irish.


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Posted by desmond jones on Mon, 01 Oct 2007 05:25 | #

From Press Office: Senator John F. Kennedy, Immigration and Naturalization Laws, Hyannis Inn Motel, Hyannis, MA

August 6th, 1960


Senator John F. Kennedy today pledged that “high priority” would be given by a Democratic administration to the platform plank calling for amendments to the immigration and naturalization laws to ban discrimination based on national origin.

  Our Democratic platform specifically states that we must remove the distinctions between native born and naturalized citizens to assure full protection of our laws to all
the Senator declared.

  It points out that the protections provided by due process, right of appeal, and statutes of limitation, can be extended to noncitizens without hampering the security of our Nation. I shall insist that this pledge be given high priority-

Senator Kennedy asserted.

  There is no place for second-class citizenship in America.

Senator Kennedy spoke to a group of national leaders of civic and fraternal organizations meeting at his home in Hyannis Port. The group represented Americans of recent immigrant background of 21 national origins.

Gov. G. Mennen Williams (Michigan), chairman of the nationalities division of the Democratic National Committee, attended the meeting along with 38 chairmen of sections of the nationalities division from various States. Also attending the meeting were Representatives Thaddeus Machrowicz (Michigan), and Henry S. Reuss (Wisconsin), and Mayor E. F. Voorde (Indiana), nationalities division members.

Stephen J. Jarema, executive chairman of the Ukrainian Congress Committee was chosen to present to Senator Kennedy the group’s opinions on immigration matters. He praised the ideas expressed in the Democratic platform and stressed the importance of putting these ideas into practice. He further pointed out that in March of this year President Eisenhower presented to Congress a recommendation for the establishment of a new quota system which would create a new classification of “Soviet citizen” for all people coming from the U.S.S.R. “This,” Jarema said, “would in effect officially put our governmental stamp of approval on Russian Communist conquests and would undermine the struggle for in dependence on the part of the captive nations.” Jarema also pointed out that it was Vice President Nixon’s tie-breaking vote in 1952 that overrode President Truman’s veto of the discriminatory McCarren-Walters Act on immigration while Senator Kennedy strongly fought to sustain the veto.

The U.S. Congress, under Democratic leadership, has taken the initial steps toward liberalizing changes in immigration law, Senator Kennedy told the group.

  We must carry forward this program in accordance with our platform to assure that no naturalized citizen will suffer discrimination because of legal disabilities.

In discussing the plight of the people of captive nations, Senator Kennedy said:

  We look forward to the day when the people of these nations will stand again in freedom and justice. Under Democratic leadership, we will carry out our platform pledge to hasten by every honorable and responsible means the arrival of that day. Our platform pledges that we will not abandon peoples who are now behind the Iron Curtain through any formal approval of the status quo.

There is no magic program or slogan to achieve our objective- the Senator said.

  There is only hard work and it can and must be done. We must use America’s economic and political power and her leadership in the United Nations as the effective tools of policy.

Senator Kennedy continued:

  The Democratic platform speaks my own mind on this subject when it declares: “We will never surrender positions which are essential to the defense of freedom nor will we abandon people who are now behind the iron Curtain through any formal approval of the status quo.”

Senator Kennedy called attention to two other platform pledges of special interest to the group:

  First there is the pledge to establish a Federal bureau on intergroup relations. This can be of tremendous assistance in preventing discrimination based on national origin or race in the areas of housing, education, jobs, and the realization of full opportunities in every American community. Second, our platform encourages the study of foreign languages in the United States. Americans with direct personal knowledge of the cultures and the contributions of other freedom-loving countries can best understand our goal of peace with justice in the world.

In addition to Mr. Jarema, the Ukrainian section was represented by the following:
Mr. Anton Batiuk, president of the Ukrainian Workingman’s Association; Mr. Joseph Lesawyer, national vice president of the Ukrainian National Association; Mrs. Mary Sypian, chairman, Ukrainian-Citizens Group of Rochester, N.Y.; and Mr. Walter Klawsnik, executive board, Ukrainian American Veterans.


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Posted by desmond jones on Mon, 01 Oct 2007 05:30 | #

<b>Q: Take us back to 1965. What were the social and political forces then that really drove this 1965 overhaul of immigration law?</i>

KENNEDY: For all intents and purposes, it was wide open when my great-great-grandparents came here in 1848. I can look out of my office in Boston in the JFK building and still see the docks where eight of my great-great grandparents came in 1848. I can see what they call the Golden Stairs, which are the stairs that come off the piers into East Boston. They were named that by immigrants that came from all different parts of the world.

There was an enormous rivalry with the various groups. There was rivalry between the Irish and Italian and the Polish groups. Massachusetts has a number of families, for example, from the French tradition. It was probably the first nationality for Massachusetts and recognized as so. They had French newspapers in Massachusetts. They were printed weekly up until a few years ago. You had Father Morrisette from Lowell, who spoke French to his parishioners.

You could look into these communities, even today, and almost see why some were the Democrats and some were Republicans. If they came on in and were the first groups that worked in manufacturing, and they were the ones who got the jobs, or went places where others were established, like the Irish, they remained Democrats.

If a new group came in and they were excluded from the jobs, they would turn and become Republicans. You can almost see this in different communities, where Polish-Americans in Chicopee will be Democrats because they got there very early. And yet in another community, they are Republicans because they got there later. There was an enormous sense of discrimination against the immigrants that grew, and discrimination against the Irish—which I remember hearing about in great detail from my grandfather.


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Posted by ES on Mon, 01 Oct 2007 05:55 | #

Desmond,

The Jews surely wrote the Democratic party platform and only helped steer Kennedy to victory after he subscribed. Joe Kennedy stated something to this effect, in fact.

Mr. Anton Batiuk, president of the Ukrainian Workingman’s Association;

Without going to the trouble of research, “Workingman’s Association” in that time period usually meant “Communist”, which in turn means “Jew-led”.


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Mon, 01 Oct 2007 07:27 | #

I agree with ES.


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Posted by Scimitar on Mon, 01 Oct 2007 08:10 | #

For instance?

The fixation point of tribalism can vary. There are Americans of Anglo-Saxon ancestry who eschew their traditional ethnic identity in favor of a surrogate cosmopolitan liberal humanist one, some who define themselves in terms of Christianity, some who identify only with the United States, some who identify with the white race, working class, or Europe, or Germany, etc.

The same is true of Canadians. There are plenty of Canadian Anglos who are liberal multiculturalists, who condemn ‘racism’, or who seem to be satisfied with their Canadian or religious identity. Quite a few, obviously, were in favor in looser ties with the British Empire. That’s probably the best argument against your brand of genetic determinism: the paucity of your co-ethnics who share your politics.

EGI is a useful theory that explains and predicts some aspects of human behavior. There is nothing necessarily pathological about ethnocentric behavior per se. It is natural to favor close kin over others. That has some genetic basis.

That fact alone doesn’t determine human behavior, though. The use of contraceptives is not natural. Women can have a surgical procedure to abort their own children. That’s not natural. Ethnomasochism is not unnatural, but ubiquitous in the West today. There are plenty of children who hate their parents; people who are estranged from their own siblings.

You’re stretching EGI into areas where it is non-explanatory. From the perspective of EGI, does the English language have any value? There is nothing hereditary about the precise words we speak - English is full of French loan words. Doesn’t it make more sense from the perspective of EGI to have a child with a Congolese Bantu than to not have one at all?

Mitigated by great distances. If Ulster Protestants lived in Spain and Irish Catholics in Norway competition for resources would vanish.

More like supplanted by other forms of identity. What happened to all the Anglo-Saxons of the United States? Do they think of themselves as ‘Anglo-Americans’ or Americans?

Neither are the US’s.

The U.S. proves there is nothing immutable about ethnicity. Of course any historically literate person knows that. A few centuries ago, ‘France’ was the French aristocracy - the despised peasantry were the Gauls, but the Gauls are the French today. It wasn’t until the 19C that Italy was reunified. Similarly, ‘Poland’ was once the aristocracy.

Obviously. The demographics are enormously different.

This is non-responsive. If the French were genetically determined to oppose the Anglo-Saxons, then Louisiana should be balkanized in the same fashion as Canada. Of course that’s not the case, is it? Also, there are plenty of Anglos and Francophones in Canada who do not share your ethnic animosity.

<b>Q: Take us back to 1965. What were the social and political forces then that really drove this 1965 overhaul of immigration law?</i>

It makes sense that Desmond would focus on Ted Kennedy - the Irish-American - not LBJ, Adlai Stevenson, John Foster Dulles, Dean Acheson, or George W. Bush. That’s not a persuasive argument, though. How many Anglos do you suppose were in the U.S. Congress when the Immigration Act of 1965 was passed?

Interesting. Moran could have said “Kiss my white ass” or “Kiss my American ass” but he didn’t. His identifier was ethnic/tribal/Irish.

Isn’t Pat Buchanan an Irish-American Catholic? What about Lindsey Graham? What’s he? What about Strom Thurmond?


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:05 | #

Scimitar doesn’t perceive the inbornness of national traits.  Individuals such as he lack a particular statistical feel.  Maybe he’ll develop it, maybe he won’t.  As long as he doesn’t feel a national trait is in part inborn and will show in a population in its aggregate if it doesn’t in the isolated individual, he won’t believe you when you say one is and so he’ll post posts like the above (all except the last part of the post, starting with “Take us back to 1965” — that last part isn’t what I’m talking about). 

People like this can’t feel, for instance, the law of large numbers, how it is that with big numbers certain population traits that are subtly inborn emerge quite reliably, inevitably in fact, and how a population of Chinamen could never create Germany no matter how you plied them with beer and sausages and dressed them in lederhosen, or Switzerland no matter how you taught them to yodel, or Scotland no matter how you dressed them in kilts, fed them haggis, and made them play their tunes on the bagpipes.  Or vice-versa — none of these could ever create China no matter how good they got at cooking stir-fry, eating it with chopsticks, and dancing the dragon dance on Chinese New Year complete with firecrackers. 

Scim gets a fundamental piece of the picture wrong.  It’s not his fault.  He can’t see it.

In Scim’s letter (in all but that last part) we see the David Stennett, Von, Scimitar conception of Salter’s universal nationalism, to wit:  there’s only one nationalism for the European continent, not the dozens of distinct ones some of us see, love, and wish to see continue far, far, far into the future.


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:17 | #

Scim will come back and say I chose my example wrong, he does see the inbornness of differences between China and Europe, just not between France and Germany, Holland and Slovakia, Flanders and Poland, or Finland and Greece.  But they’re the same sort of thing and exist in all cases.  He may say even if they exist between European national groups they’re too slight to pay attention to.  That view comes from a lack of refinement.  A man possessing refinement doesn’t think that but is able to value such things and even value them greatly.


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Posted by Matra on Mon, 01 Oct 2007 18:07 | #

OK, there’s too much here for me to respond to right now. Scimitar you keep saying Pat Buchanan is an Irish Catholic. OK there’s no doubt he’s Catholic but he has Ulster Protestant (‘Scots-Irish’) ancestors who arrived before independence and later fought for the Confederacy. He’s also part German Catholic. Some of Buchanan’s ancestors are old stock Americans and he’s gone to the trouble if finding old cemetaries in places like Mississippi so he’s very conscious of his old stock American ancestry. That in itself makes his perspective different from say, the Kennedy family.

Also, I didn’t say only non-Anglo-Saxons voted for JFK. TWs there an increase in ‘ethnic’ Europeans and Catholics voting Democrat in 1960, as joe Kennedy suspected? In all societies there will be people who vote on things like economics or personality but when there is an increase in votes going to one party because of the ethnicity of the candidate we have to consider the ethnic issue. Many of the Anglo-Saxon states where JFK won were in the South which brings up the intra-Anglo-Saxon  ethnic division between those whose ancestors fought for either the CSA or USA. (Sorry, I should’ve made clear that I was talking about Anglo-Saxons outside of the South, which has a different history). Within those two groups there are general differences in their respective British origins. (See David Hackett Fischer’s Albion Seed)

I’ll try to get back to this later.


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Posted by Scimitar on Tue, 02 Oct 2007 00:31 | #

In Scim’s letter (in all but that last part) we see the David Stennett, Von, Scimitar conception of Salter’s universal nationalism, to wit:  there’s only one nationalism for the European continent, not the dozens of distinct ones some of us see, love, and wish to see continue far, far, far into the future.

You’re misreading me here. I don’t have any problem with nationalism per se - provided that it isn’t taken to the excess of jingoistic hatred of foreigners (see George W. Bush). There is a healthy nationalism (the GW version), but also a pathological excess (fascism) and deficiency of nationalism (ethnomasochism).

I think you are also running two questions together. Many national characteristics between closely related European populations are largely cultural. The colors of a national flag, the boundries of a national territory, religion, language, style of dress, favorite foods and beverages - none of this is hereditary. That’s not to say it’s unimportant. If you take an Irish Catholic and an Ulster Protestant away from their families as children, raise them in a foster home in ignorance of the religious division between them, it will disappear.

Some White Nationalists believe their race is their nation. Some would dissolve European nations into an ocean of whiteness. That’s not my view. I don’t have any problem with Europeans preserving their own distinct ethnic identities. If you read my posts, you will find that I have claimed ‘whiteness’ is a marker of the American ethnos.


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Tue, 02 Oct 2007 02:06 | #

“I don’t have any problem with nationalism per se - provided that it isn’t taken to the excess of jingoistic hatred of foreigners (see George W. Bush). There is a healthy nationalism (the GW version), but also a pathological excess (fascism) and deficiency of nationalism (ethnomasochism).”  (—Scimitar)

Agreed except I’m not too sure there’s anything blameworthy about what is referred to today as “fascism.”

“Many national characteristics between closely related European populations are largely cultural.”

Agreed:  many are both largely cultural and partly inborn.

“The colors of a national flag, the boundries of a national territory, religion, language, style of dress, favorite foods and beverages - none of this is hereditary.”

Wrong.  All of the ones listed are partly inborn.  Politics are partly inborn, tastes are, ways of behaving are, all sorts of preferences are, manners of talking are, of prouncing words, styles of speech cadences, and much, much more are.

“If you take an Irish Catholic and an Ulster Protestant away from their families as children, raise them in a foster home in ignorance of the religious division between them, it will disappear.”

Where inborn traits are present in the “average” individual of a population group they’ll leave their distinguishing mark on the population aggregate in the form of partly inborn national characteristics.  In looking at Ulster Prods on the one hand, and Catholics from the Republic on the other, it’s harder to demonstrate than with Euros and Sub-Saharans but it applies nonetheless.  To deny it is to deny the other as well, which hearkens back to Zusammen’s point that denying intra-Euro race leads sooner or later to denying intercontinental race.

“Some White Nationalists believe their race is their nation. Some would dissolve European nations into an ocean of whiteness. That’s not my view. I don’t have any problem with Europeans preserving their own distinct ethnic identities.”

Good.

“If you read my posts, you will find that I have claimed ‘whiteness’ is a marker of the American ethnos.”

This is what Desmond said about Rnl’s views also, that Rnl acknowledged the legitimacy of Europe’s being and remaining divided into distinct Euro nations, endorsing generic Euroness only for North America.  That’s fair although I for one would work to make provision for Euros over here to re-connect with their distinct Euro origins and cultivate that group distinctness, letting it lead wherever it might even to regions forming and separating if it came to that.  In general I find generic Euroness inferior, more fragile, and more vulnerable to racial/ethnocultural attack than collections of specific, distinct infra-Euro national groupings.  Now, whether traditional Euro racial sub-groupings can retain their group distinctness in the New World (lately more appropriately called The New Third World) is open to question:  John Knox, the great Scottish churchman, said when a Euro race separates from its native country and goes to live in the colonies it “degenerates to the crab.”  (That he saw that already in the 1500s amazes me.)


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Thu, 04 Oct 2007 07:11 | #

“The Rising Tide of Anger” Stateside:

Here is powerful statement by American Indian David Yeagley (enrolled member of the Comanche tribe through his mother).  In this piece, Prof. Yeagley is clearly talking about the right of a people to preserve, among other things, their race. 

And <a href=“http://www.krnv.com/global/video/popup/pop_player.asp?ClipID1=1800823&h1=Mexican Flag Flown Illegally Over Local Business&vt1=v&at1=Video Player&d1=213867&LaunchPageAdTag=News&activePane=info&playerVersi>here</a>, an Anglo patriot in Reno, Nevada, rescues the Stars & Stripes from desecration, using his army Bowie knife to cut the lanyards holding it, without asking any mestizo’s permission beforehand.  Then he sheathes his 14-inch blade and starts to walk away, respectfully folding the flag.  He informs the two Mexicans who are watching that if they want it back they can fight him for it right there.  The mestizo pair doubtless took one look at that knife and said “Uhhh, we just remembered we have an important engagement elsewhere!  Adios amigo!!”


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sat, 06 Oct 2007 18:32 | #

“Wrong.  All of the ones listed are partly inborn.  Politics are partly inborn, tastes are, ways of behaving are, all sorts of preferences are, manners of talking are, of pronouncing words, styles of speech cadences, and much, much more are.”  (—my comment, a couple above)

Articles like this are coming out now every few months.


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sun, 07 Oct 2007 06:02 | #

Race-replacement is happening by design not accident:  it’s being deliberately forced by élites who know exactly what they’re doing and have been planning this cataclysm (cataclysm for you and me; boon, as they see it, for them) since the 1970s in the case of some, since the 1870s in the case of others (Jews have worked toward this explicit goal for about the past hundred-and-twenty years).  The following excerpt doesn’t say all of that but does say some of it.  (For the rest you have to put two and two together in your own brain and look at other sources.)

A consistent strength of [the blog] Vanishing American is the clear understanding displayed of why the US immigration disaster happened:

“The elites engineered this change to our country, and to all Western countries; it is not an accident.  Had they not wished it to happen, they could have stopped it at any point.  But they continued it, and now it seems they are accelerating it, trying to be doubly sure that it cannot be reversed.  [Emphasis added.]

That’s exactly one-hundred-percent right.


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Posted by Brit Pat on Tue, 09 Oct 2007 03:35 | #

Here is the Answer, we are to be placed under the dual jackboot of a Brutal WU Soviet Police State AND Sharia Law. Diminished and eventually exterminated by MASS Immigration.


http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/865
http://thewestminsternews.co.uk/
http://www.brugesgroup.com/
http://www.eutruth.org.uk
http://www.betteroffout.co.uk/sup01.htm
http://www.european-referendum.org.uk/101-reasons.html
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3664960863576873594&hl=en-GB
BE THERE
http://www.proreferendumrally.co.uk/

http://www.stopthenorthamericanunion.com/TwoPeas.html
http://www.betteroffout.co.uk
http://www.bdicampaign.org/
http://www.britsattheirbest.com/freedom/f_your_own_choice.htm

http://balder.org/avisartikler/Barcelona-Declaration-Euro-Mediterranean-English.php
http://balder.org/avisartikler/Open-Letter-To-Danish-Prime-Minister-Anders-Fogh-Rasmussen.php
Europe Sold out for oil
http://www.westernresistance.com/blog/archives/003027.html
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/2458
Pope says ‘ATTEMPTS TO ISLAMIFY EUROPE…..CANNOT BE DENIED’.........
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/07/27/wislam127.xml

Sharia law spreading in the UK.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/11/29/nsharia29.xml

Dutch and Swedish Ministers admitting Islam is to be the Dominant Culture.
http://www.freedominion.ca/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=1016000


Society Undermined by Subversion.

Frankfurt Subversion of Society is a Marxist technique of Subverting a country, in order that it may be made to collapse and then be taken over. Karl Marx was of Russian Jewish Descent.
Frankfurt Subversion It is a strategy largely based on the tactics of divide and conquer.
One of the original aims of Communism was to unify Europe with the USSR, when the Soviet Union was ‘brought down, they simply carried on a Multifaceted attack against the West. It’s ain in our case is to place Society under the Dual Jack Boot of a Police State & Sharia Law.
Frankfurt subversion begins by attacking a country’s Major strengths, Its Major Industries, its menfolk, its police, its armed services, its religion, creating a spiritual vaccuum, and its family unity, actively promoting divisive issues like unmarried parenting.The promotion of Feminism, Homosexuality in society ( even in our schools ), the demonisation of the church,repeated accusations of Paedophilia against Clergy, Women clergy, Homosexual clergy ( and Only the Christian Church you will note ) and its followers.
Destroying, ridiculing our culture, undermining our Christian Heritage, to be replaced by islam, the smoking ban for example was designed to empty the Pubs, they will now begin to slowly prohibit alcohol altogether.
The nuclear family is attacked by promoting radical feminism, single parents, demonisation of fathers, seperating children from their fathers.
Diluting of National Identity by flooding the country with Mass Immigration enticed by generous housing and welfare. Which could have been give to promote British Mothers to have mor children (Currently, Govt Medical advisors suggest Women in Britain should continue taking the Pill because it may ward off Cancer, it doesn’t and totally ignoring increased risks of heart related problems).
In addition 1 in 5 Pregnancies in this country end up being aborted.
This is Social Engineering. Encourage the Supression of British birth rates, and flooding the country with Imported Europeans
Who have little or no interest in Britians history, culture, In short, in order to Create the EU Soviet empire, the British ( and European ) Peoples are being replaced, exterminated.
Another way in which the Govt Deliberately undermines society is by Prohibiting parents and teachers from disciplining children then later on, promoting 24 hr drinking, relaxing drug laws.
Then deliberately withddrawing the Police off the streets through unecessesary paperwork.Not only does this lead to breakdown it alienates the Public and the Police from each other.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/03/18/npolice18.xml

Later blaming society for Lack of Principles in Society and suggesting te Govt needs to Introduce More Draonian Powers Such as a Stealthy introduction to the Military Draft, Islamic Principles.
All aided and abetted by the State Controlled Media,

This is called Social Engineering and is already happening in the UK.
FrankFurt Subversion on Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism
UNLIMITED MUSLIM PASSAGE TO THE UK and the Europeans FORCED to respect the Religion.
http://balder.org/avisartikler/Open-Letter-To-Danish-Prime-Minister-Anders-Fogh-Rasmussen.php
http://balder.org/avisartikler/Barcelona-Declaration-Euro-Mediterranean-English.php
Europe Sold out for oil
http://www.westernresistance.com/blog/archives/003027.html
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/2458
Sharia law spreading in the UK.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/11/29/nsharia29.xml

Dutch and Swedish Ministers admitting Islam is to be the Dominant Culture.
http://www.freedominion.ca/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=1016000

http://www.investors.com/editorial/editorialcontent.asp?secid=1501&status=article&id=275871309181046

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2007/07/exit-sweden.html

Pope says ‘ATTEMPTS TO ISLAMIFY EUROPE…..CANNOT BE DENIED’.........
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/07/27/wislam127.xml

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/1053

three litle pigs
http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/15/british-school-renames-three-little-pigs-to-avoid-offending-muslims/

FrankFurt Subversion on Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism

Brainwashing by Political Correctness,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_Correctness


Into the fragmented vacuum of our Nations subverted spirituality Sharia Law Is Spreading.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/11/29/nsharia29.xml

British School Children converted to Islam, making Islamic Affirmations to Allah in school.
http://forum.mpacuk.org/showthread.php?p=398633

Conversion to Islam? Are Muslim children forced to pray to God ( Would Muslims be forced to pray to God )
http://forum.mpacuk.org/showthread.php?p=398633

British Children told in school they Must avert their eyes, ( already telling them they are second class citizens ).
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/education/article1654995.ece

Criminalising British children as young as three yrs of age.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44733

Polygamy
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=449221&in_page_id=1770

Genital Mutilation, up to 60,000 a year in the UK
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/medical_notes/241221.stm

Goodbye Sweden
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/2065

GoodBye France, Frances unreported race riots lasted a WHOLE YEAR, on average 112 Cars torched PER DAY.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2004/01/26/do2601.xml

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/989

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/1183

Dutch and Swedish Ministers admitting Islam is to be the Dominant Culture.
http://www.freedominion.ca/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=1016000

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2007/07/exit-sweden.html

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/865

 

 

At the same time the Press uses Psychological repression of guilt and shame, portraying us as evil racist murdering paedophilesm so we will not stand up for ourselvesas we are washed out of existance,,
whilst hiding the true cause of crime in Britain.

Here’s the Mets 12 Most wanted list..Remember I didn’t compile this list, the Police did
http://www.met.police.uk/wanted/

Here’s their 15 Most wanted
http://www.met.police.uk/wanted/othercases.htm

Yet More.
http://iamanenglishman.com/rogues_gallery.php

Here’s west Midlands most wanted.
http://www.west-midlands.police.uk/wanted/index.asp


We never see these in our National News Either.
http://newnation.org/NNN-UK-Europe.html

More Victims of Our Govt’s Hidden Genocidal agenda Against Britain and the British..
http://thefallenlist.blogspot.com/

 


You probably have similar things going on in your country…
Whose to Blame for this cultural Marxism throughout Europe…...


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Wed, 10 Oct 2007 03:29 | #

E.U. = the kiss of racial death. 

Immigration is now not merely the dominant feature of Irish life, it is the greatest threat to the existence of the Irish nation as a coherent, and cohesive whole.  No country has ever accepted, never mind assimilated, the volumes of foreigners now present in this state.  We have some 400,000 legal immigrants; but everyone knows that the army of illegals, especially Africans and Chinese, is vast, and probably tops 200,000.  In all, Ireland has received at least 600,000 immigrants, most of them within the past five years. It could be many more. No one has the least idea.  [Scroob note:  that’s 600 K on a population of some 3½ million, pre-Professor von Whatsisname.  That’s equivalent to the U.S. getting 60 million non-white immigrants — 30 million Negroes plus 30 million Chinamen, let’s say — in five years.  No nation-state can take that kind of genocidal hit and come away still standing.]

 

Himmler wanted to genocide the Jews, according to David Irving?  If the E.U. had existed back then he could’ve simply had them join.  Within five years of joining they’d be finished, absolutely annihilated as a race.  Vanished off the face of the earth.



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