The Soviet Union: Aegis of Europe as we know it

Wrong on several counts, I think.  Even if it makes me an idiot-nationalist for saying so.

First, the objective is to achieve politically or, failing that, by force of arms, the final and absolute state of European self-hood in all its manifold forms.  Ultimately, we are not interested in systems or even ideas, but in genes.  Russian genes are not French genes are not Spanish genes are not Swedish genes.  A withdrawal into Mother Russia is no guarantor of survival for the French, the Spanish, the Swedish.  The Slavification of West European genes is also a genocide - and a genocide, too, for Russians.  There is no replacement of the European self as it is now expressed which is not a genocide.

Second, Soviet communism WAS liberalism ... part of the same pursuit of the unfettered will.  Its claimed function was to birth Soviet Man: Homo sovieticus.  It was never nationalist in the radical and true sense of that word, since radical nationalism lives outside the liberal milieu into which communism fits, and in fundamental opposition to it.

Further, claiming that Stalin - a Georgian - was a nationalist hero to twenty ethnicities in four major groupings is, well, somewhat tendentious.  The compaction of these ethnicities within the USSR was achieved not through the expression and pursuit of local interests, but through the violation and suppression of them.

Third, Frick’s easy-going explanation of the gulags and the Kolyma mines and the echoing corridors of the Lubyanka is, frankly, disgraceful.  Nations may always clash, and European lives may be invested in some towering madness.  Such waste, of course, is to be mourned through the uncomprehending tears of the orphaned.  But life contains such risks.

However, the enslavement or sentence of death of millions of “good Slavic souls” on grounds of social class or political opposition is something else.  That is not part of Nature’s sorry competitive dispensation.  It is a genocide totally of Man’s creation, and let us never indulge in apologetics for it.

Fourth, you are factually correct that Russia has avoided the Third World ingress because of communism.  Soviet Communism created only subsistence-level wealth.  Free market economics practised by a high IQ people create prosperity, and prosperity attracts the Third World poor.

This fascination with Stalin and the ghastly and anti-human pursuit of an abstract perfection wished upon the world by a Jew, like so many abstract “perfections”, does you no favours, Constantin.

GW’s response is of course entirely correct.  The Jewish communism disease which afflicted and brought low the Russian Empire from 1917 to 1991 was anti-nationalist in its foundations, as symbolized, among other glaring and unmistakable signs, in its designation of “fascism,” meaning ethno-racial nationalism in Jewish-communist parlance, as its principal enemy alongside “capitalism.”

“But could it be that Soviet Communism in fact SAVED Europe?” (—from the log entry)

Yes, the way it did wonders in 1945-47 for thousand-year-old Prussia.  Did I get that right? ....

“Because of Communism, Russia is the only Europe we have left. Any intelligent Englishman, Frank, Teuton or Italian will leave his occupied home and settle his family on the vast Russian steppes.” (—idem)

But what if we don’t like snow in June, monotonous flatness as far as the eye can see in every direction, a thin hazy washed-out sky, and lots and lots of birch trees? 

Look, if you flee reality reality will only catch up to you but now it will overtake you from behind where you are least prepared to stand the shock, instead of your meeting it face-forward as you ought to have done in the first place. 

What’s needed is not flight, not running away to the Russian steppes, but taking one’s stand and turning to meet the enemy head-on, on one’s home ground.  There’s also that the spirit that indwells in your race’s home earth will help you as you stand and fight, for land has a spirit — Lawrence Auster wrote that he felt this spirit once when he trod one of the Civil War’s battlefields, felt it strongly and unmistakably — and the spirit indwelling in the land of the Russian steppes isn’t one that will help Frenchmen, Germans, Englishmen, or Italians on the day they must fight to the death.  Better to stand and make your fight on the hallowed lands of your tribe’s fathers.

What a hilarious false dichotomy. I’m not surprised that Bolshevik Constantin would associate his name with such inane illogical babble.

Russia has risen from the ashes in spite of communism, not because of it. If it were not for the west (primarily America) antagonizing it and manipulating it, Russia would still likely suffering in the throes of its Jewish-inspired bolshevik nightmare.

Constantin seems to be missing the fact that much of the anti-European propaganda, ideas, and tools being utilized by the egalitarians and “peace activists” of today were Soviet exports.

The failure of the West after World War I to help the Whites crush the Reds in Russia is a price we are paying very dearly for today. From the ashes of the Tsars rose the forces that ultimately led the world into war again in 1939. No Bolshevik Revolution, no Soviet Union, no Nazi Germany, no Cold War, no end to the European domination of the world.

To Hell with the Left.

(In case anyone doesn’t have time to read Joe’s article, it’s the U.S. Lutherans who are determined to be the worst race-replacement advocates of the three.)

“I couldn’t care less for Swedish, Spanish, Czech genes… if they even exist. Only European genes matter.” (—Ivan Frick)

This, the David Stennett view, betrays gravest ignorance, not to mention truly pathetic lack of refinement/discernment and even of elementary common sense and ordinary humanity.  When your ignorance and appalling lack of refinement and good sense cause you to screw up badly in doing things like ordering from the wine menu at dinner, dressing to go out, commenting on what’s in front of you in an art museum, or conversing with a woman, it makes you contemptible in one way; when they cause you to screw up badly in your prescriptions for ordering and structuring societies and nations it approaches the domains of epoch-making criminality and the incompetence of the insane.  Further, once Frick’s attitude is widely accepted by our side it will be but a tiny step to saying, “I couldn’t care less for European genes ... only human genes matter.”

I spit on Frick’s view.  You compromise in this way, and you’ll end up with less than zero.

Here in America, capitalism is actually destroying our country, whereas the theoretical threat posed to our country by communism (and now by Islamic terrorism) has yet to materialize.

I don’t know, Proze.

Scrooby,

Auster is Jewish, I doubt that he had any personal connection to the American Civil War.  Although, I suppose, it’s not outside the realm of possiblity.

“Auster is Jewish, I doubt that he had any personal connection to the American Civil War.” (—Skeptical)

You mean, the way Judah Benjamin didn’t?

Look, my point was whether he did or didn’t, as an American he could have felt the intense spiritual dimension of the battlefield ground he reverently walked upon, on that day he visited as a tourist.  Americans inherit an American spirit whether through the blood or through something means, that enables them to feel these things.  I have it.  Auster does.  Judah Benjamin did.  So did Robert E. Lee.  Abe Foxman doesn’t.

“Abe Foxman doesn’t.”

Class Ivan Frick with Abe Foxman.

Constantin,

As I said, not outside the realm of possiblity, but still highly unlikely nonetheless.

If Auster can trace his ancestry to one of the few (and I mean very few) authentic antebellum Jewish American families then obviously my suspicions were misplaced.

Scrooby,

From my perspective, the more racially aware white citizens we have in the U.S. the better.  My stance is purely practical in this regard.

By the way, if you want another perspective on Auster just look at the archives (from last Fall) over at the Age-Of-Treason blog.  As Tanstaafl started coming out as a racialist he got a considerable amount of flak from Auster over his willingness to ask questions “certain” questions.

“I couldn’t care less for Swedish, Spanish, Czech genes… if they even exist. Only European genes matter.”

Parallel to Marxist view on class, anybody?

“Rest of the replies/bait is mainly non-sensical Nutzi babble I won’t bother to address. ”

Folks, this is how the ideological enemy operates. They respond with great emotionalism and declare their opposition to be insane rather than duking it out intellectually because their points cannot be defended.

“Constantin seems to be missing the fact that much of the anti-European propaganda, ideas, and tools being utilized by the egalitarians and “peace activists” of today were Soviet exports. ”

Good point. Look at America after it became infiltrated with these ex-pat Communist Jews from the USSR. Feminism, New Left, Neo Conservatism, etc. all coincide with their arrival.

Look at America after it became infiltrated with these ex-pat Communist Jews from the USSR. Feminism, New Left, Neo Conservatism, etc. all coincide with their arrival.

Maybe, but looking at it memetically one can find all kinds of Soviet strains. Just look at conspiracy theories, for example: one that a government conspiracy was behind the assassination of JFK is now an almost common belief in the United States, but all of the evidence leading to this assertion can be traced back to an article planted by Soviet intelligence in an Italian newspaper. The propaganda used by “peace activists” that a nuclear “winter” would follow the use of nuclear weapons is now popular, even though it was Soviet scientists who first came up with the idea and, with the help of Soviet intelligence, published it in Western journals. The conspiracy theory that the CIA created AIDS now dominates the black community in America, but even this one can be traced back to Soviet intelligence.

And that’s just conspiracy theories! Look at the memes in today’s popular culture: egalitarianism, environmentalism, anti-militarism, etc. It can all be traced back to Soviet propaganda and Soviet subsidies.

The largest ethnic group to serve the Confederacy, however, was made up of first-, second- and third-generation Jewish lads.

I see.  Not English, nor Scots-Irish.  The single largest ethnic group in the Confederate Army was Jews.

Makes sense.  For this blog, I mean.

Russia has risen from the ashes in spite of communism, not because of it.

That was my first thought, but it isn’t quite true.  Communism is so hostile to the pursuit of happiness that it protected Russia & Co. from the 3rd world invasion.  This is a bug, not a feature, but it is designed into Communism.

But, there’s also the matter of Russian nationalism, which did thrive under Communism.  Whatever they did, the Commies apparently did not brainwash the multicult into Russians.

But don’t worry, Homo Economicus is no doubt teething right now in Russia.

I’ve said this before in one or two other threads, and I’ll repeat it:  three years ago at the GdV site a group of Russian skinheads who were regular commenters said Putin’s government was trying to force race-replacement on the Russian race inhabiting Russia.  In fact, they said a significant number of those government officials involved in this effort at forcing race-replacement were Jews.  I got kicked out of that site so was not able to stay current with the skinhead “news from the Russian front,” so to speak.  But that these guys were reliable witnesses to what was going on there was beyond any doubt in my opinion:  Russians were fighting their own government for their racial survival over there as much as we are over here.

Fred wrote:

The levels of ignorance, wrongheadedness, and strawmanism in DS’s arguments speak for themselves — they need no rebuttal because they self-rebut.

Yawnnn .....

Now onto something more interesting that what Fred usually writes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV2NpPqIHnw

“Now onto something more interesting that what Fred usually writes:”

LMAO! Who ever said that whites guys can’t get down and get funky?

The other thing is there’s never going to be one uniformly coffee colored world because thermodynamics won’t permit such homogeneous mixing, so there’ll always be races.  The only question is which ones will there be?  I’d like the white ones to be among them, thanks very much (oh and ... without the coffee please ... just the milk.  Thanks.).

There are four possible positions for an ethnically- or racially-aware member of our people(s) in respect to European preservation.

1) This individual belongs to one of the European ethnies, is aware of the fact, and is concerned to preserve his ethny while desiring the preservation of Europe’s ethnies as a whole.  This is my position.

2) This individual does not belong to any single European ethny, is aware of the fact, but desires the preservation of each of Europe’s ethnies nonetheless.  This is Fred’s position.

3) This individual belongs to one of the European ethnies but he sees no intrinsic value in ethny at all, and desires only the preservation at a combinative level.  This is the position of the Nordicist and the pan-European.

4) This individual does NOT belong to any single European ethny and sees no intrinsic value in ethny at all, and desires only the preservation at a combinative level.  This is the position of the Nordicist and the pan-European.

In America (3) and (4) are the only meaningful positions to hold.  In Europe (1) is the natural position, and (2) is to be commended for its generosity.

Then we come to the holding of opinions (3) and (4) within Europe.  In assessing its moral worth one must first separate out base motives.

For example, an ethnic Russian living in Estonia, whose forefathers were moved there by Stalin, has no moral right to criticise Estonian self-preservation (3), even if his personal interests are advanced by such an argument.  His proper course of action would be to leave the Estonian homeland and rejoin his true people.  Morally, only an Estonian can argue (3) that Estonians should not preserve themselves.  The ethnic Russian could argue only that Russians in Mother Russia should not preserve themselves.

Much weaker still is the moral underpinning of (4).  An individual of no definitive European ethny has absolutely no right to thrust European pan-mixia upon our ancient peoples.  He may pursue his own reproductive interests as he pleases, but he cannot make recommendations to others to become de-ethnicised like himself.

In Europe, we speak for or against our own, and not against others.

3) This individual belongs to one of the European ethnies but he sees no intrinsic value in ethny at all, and desires only the preservation at a combinative level.  This is the position of the Nordicist and the pan-European.

4) This individual does NOT belong to any single European ethny and sees no intrinsic value in ethny at all, and desires only the preservation at a combinative level.  This is the position of the Nordicist and the pan-European.

Bleh. This is “not even wrong”, as they say.

The idea of placing the “Nordicist” and the individual “concerned to preserve his ethny” in mutually exclusive categories is simply bizarre.

Svyatoslav Igorevich: As said, I have no interest in returning to the past nor returning to Soviet-style Communism (I take economics seriously). Bug or features? I do not care. I only want people to acknowledge the REALITY, the PRESENT, stop weeping about the past and reap what was sown-- for better or worse. Bug or feature? Who cares? I only care for the outcome, which is: Russia is one of the last White/European nations left.

David Stennett & the rest, not directed at one in particular (ie: some agreed with me, some disagreed, but now I clarify my point): I merely stated that “Swedish” or “Spanish” or “French” will go the way of other ancient peoples that progressed into larger groups such as: Estrucans, Minoans, etc. These were European peoples, and where are they today? What will “Swedish” or “Spanish” mean in 1000 years? We’ll have new linguistic/racial groups, and a new geopolitical reality. Grow up. I am pro-European, nothing else.

I have surely missed a few other replies. However, time is short.

GW, look at it as a fallback option.  Granted, it’s a pretty big fall for an Englishman, and if comes to that, you or yours might well throw in the towel.  But it’s an enormous expanse and could accomodate a variety of political solutions, so perhaps all won’t be lost should the worst, from your perspective, fail to be prevented.

silver said: “GW, look at it as a fallback option.  Granted, it’s a pretty big fall for an Englishman, and if comes to that, you or yours might well throw in the towel.  But it’s an enormous expanse and could accomodate a variety of political solutions, so perhaps all won’t be lost should the worst, from your perspective, fail to be prevented.”

silver, there is no safe place for whites to isolate themselves. This discussion reminds me of the black comedian ‘Cedric the Entertainer’ when he said to a white audience: “If ya’ll go to the moon...dammit we’re comin’ to the moon.”

‘More than 10,000 Jews fought for the Confederacy....’

No wonder why WE lost....

(meaning Whites)

This reading of the ‘chosenites’ fighting for the South was both a revelation, and a condemnation.

Revelation, in that supposed Christians would think, for one minute, that the heirs of the Talmud care for anything but their race- which is not white.

http://majorityrights.com/index.php/weblog/comments/are_jews_white/

Condemnation, in that, by seeking ‘foreign alliances’ with apostate and heretical groups, they would have ignored the biblical prohibitions that YHWH gave to Biblical Israel NOT to enter into such alliances....

Again, no wonder why we lost....