The Specter of Genetic Communism

Racial cohesion is a result of different factors, important ones being similar physical appearance and behavioural patterns (whose aggregate phenotype is a ‘culture’ or ‘civilization’).  The difference in physical appearance between races is obvious and results in implicit negative attitudes towards racial others.  Aggregate behavioural differences can also be stark and are a major cause of the displacement of native Whites via ‘White Flight’.

One of the main weapons in the elite arsenal to weaken criticism of race-replacement has been the PC mythology on race:  that it doesn’t exist, that differences are only skin deep, that differences are the legacy of White racism, and corrective social programs can equalize achievement.  Although researchers have long ago taken the hammer to many of these idols, their worship in the popular press and political class continues.  The torrent of data coming from projects like HapMap, however, now portends a coming twilight.  Heretical musings bubble up in establishment organs like Slate and the NYT (though orthodoxy still prevails overwhelmingly).  Social programs, like No Child Left Behind, continue to fail.  The general avoidance or dismissal of heritable differences between human groups by the left (who do the elite’s ideological programming) is becoming less viable as a strategy for suppressing dissident views on race.

The crumbling of the dominant racial mythology and increasing racial tension undermine the legitimacy of Western elites who impose, or fail to prevent, race-replacement.  As Whites become increasingly displaced and dispossessed, their discontent weakens the foundations of the current political structure.

What is to be done? 

Within the left there is a growing awareness that the strategies that worked in the past are no longer viable.  Some, like Peter Singer, have called for the creation of a Darwinian Left.  However, the acceptance of inherent differences will be difficult for many to accept, let alone celebrate.  A revival of Lamarckism would be a more natural strategy, and today we see the possibility of this happening to at least a limited degree.

In this month’s Quarterly Review of Biology, Eva Jablonka and Gal Raz (both from Tel-Aviv University) have written a review of the evidence for epigenetic inheritance.  Epigenetic changes are alterations in phenotype or gene expression that are not the result of changes in DNA sequence, DNA methylation being the best-known example.  While epigenetic modifications have now been established to play causative roles in diseases like cancer, it has not been conclusively demonstrated that these changes are heritable in humans.  It is not entirely unexpected however, as strong evidence exists for epigenetic inheritance in mice and there is some evidence for it in humans.

A neo-Lamarckian mechanism for inheritance that blurs the distinction between acquired and inherent traits gives new life to the environmental scapegoat that prevents all men from being equal, buying time for those who promise an eventual multiracial utopia.  Recently, the epigenetic legacy of slavery has been suggested as a cause for American Negro health problems.  But even if the left can, however credibly, continue holding the environment responsible for racial differences, we are still left with these differences.  If the races are to be equal, what’s required is a change in phenotype.  To paraphrase Marx, scientists have only interpreted the phenotype, the key is to change it.

White Like Me?

Any attempts to change racial phenotypes must deal with the fact that the Western public (let alone the left) is not enthusiastic about genetic engineering.  In a 2005 study by the Wellcome Trust, most people surveyed said that they would prefer that gene therapy does not result in genetic changes, especially for non-life threatening conditions.  Gene therapy that would be employed to equalize racial phenotypes would ideally not affect the underlying DNA sequence.  For this reason, epigenetic therapies would be preferred.  The problem with current epigenetic therapies is that they are not specific and often show pleitropic effects.  But this may now be changing.

Avon has published a patent for reducing pigmentation using a novel technique for gene therapy.  This new technology acts by silencing gene expression and has a number of advantages over current approaches to genetic engineering.  It does not require the integration of DNA into the genome (which can be technically difficult and result in tumours), should not alter underlying DNA, dosage can be controlled, and specific genes can be targeted.  Once technical issues are solved (like delivery, which appears to have been overcome at least for this skin application), we can expect many new drugs that act by directly altering gene expression.

Could this be the harbinger of an era of genetic communism that seeks to equalize phenotypes between races, thereby reducing resistance to race-replacement?  If Whites are largely unwilling to marry non-Whites and accept them as neighbours, maybe a change in phenotype will help suppress their instinctual fear that the propaganda matrix may be telling lies and reduce their anger at being dispossessed, thereby stabilizing the current political system.

(Note that this also has implications for societal relations of a non-ethnic nature, but my focus here is the implications for ethnic politics in the West)

One might object that making non-Whites look and behave more like Whites reduces diversity and devalues the differences that we are supposed to celebrate.  All true, but it should be obvious that the left does not value true diversity.  They are genetic globalists.  And even if many non-Whites will refuse such therapy, there would be enough takers that it would speed along the replacement process.  I suspect, though, that there are many non-Whites in the West who, despite what they are told about the value of non-Whiteness, would like nothing more than to blend into society as Whites (or at least stand out less).  Some will see it as adaptive.  For companies that sell these drugs, it will be big business.  Race-replacement enthusiasts in media and academia, who have been able to convince otherwise intelligent people that race does not exist, should have no problems promoting the advantages of such a genetic ‘booster shot’ (and because it is epigenetic, the current line about no inherent differences can be maintained).

Replicants Dreaming of Dolly?

Resistance to race-replacement has increased as the implications of group averages and group dynamics come into sharper focus.  Ideally, Whites would reject the multiracialism and genocide being imposed on them and come to some type of arrangement with a new set of elites that work to undo the damage done.  But what if current elites can convince Whites that the damage will be undone through scientific advances?  Could gene therapy be used to ensure that racial differences are attenuated or disappear, creating a truly dystopic future for those who seek to defend their genetic interests?

Many factors make such a scenario unlikely in the foreseeable future.  Complex behavioural traits will not be as amenable to gene therapy as something like pigmentation, where turning down expression of a single gene can achieve the desired effect.  Linkage scans and association studies suggest that complex traits like IQ depend on a network of genes.  Many phenotypes are also the result of genes being differentially expressed during development.  No change in adult gene expression will alter the shape of the nose or skull (though plastic surgery may be able to alter some traits).  Furthermore, changes in gene expression levels cannot compensate for differences in protein sequence (though compromise solutions which do not alter the genome sequence, like artificial chromosomes, may provide more flexibility and still meet required ethical standards).  While the current revolution in RNA biology suggest that expression regulation is much more important and ubiquitous than previously thought, there will be practical limits to modifying phenotypes via control of gene expression.

However, despite theoretical and technical difficulties, the Promethean spirit driving Western science virtually guarantees the eventual emergence of therapies allowing varying degrees of mimicry of complex traits.  Those Whites who define their identity as a phenotype (e.g. Civilization) will have trouble defending their genetic interests.  Our defence must be grounded in the ontological foundations of our racial identity.

Posted by Dasein on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 at 06:35 PM in Genetics & Human Bio-DiversityScience & Technology
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Posted by a Finn on June 10, 2009, 08:31 PM | #

I wrote elsewhere about IQ and other genetic engineering:

1. Many genes affect intelligence and complex change combinations are necessary for good intelligence improvement. Slightest differences in genes or gene combinations and thus protein combinations, protein quantities or protein shapes mean the quantity and quality of intelligence improvement or sickness; seizures, developmental defects, the opposite what was the goal, etc. To be able to do this is extremely hard and it takes long time before it is possible.

2. When the previous can be done fairly safely then there are endless trade-offs. If you improve some part of intelligence, there are decreasing possibilities in other areas of intelligence and/ or some other problems or weakening in the brains or elsewhere in the body. There are literally endless trillions of different “best” gene combinations. What do you choose?

3. Also, because almost every gene has indirect influence on the brains, the search for “best” possible combinations of changes in genes is beyond the capability of scientists, although intelligence can be improved.

4. Let’s assume contrary to the facts that everybody would have the possibility to choose the intelligence-trade off package to their children that they wanted, and that everybody would want that to their children. When intelligence can be universally improved with genetic engineering it doesn’t lead to harmony, but to it’s opposite. When intelligence differences become smaller, the competition becomes fierce, and the smallest differences in different ability areas and their combinations become important. Compare this to the race of two cars and their drivers, one losing to the other with several laps. The competition is almost non-existent. But if their abilities are such that they are within a fraction of the second in the finish line the competition becomes fierce.

This will increase hostilities, dirty tricks, desperate measures, risk taking, search for methods of marginal improvements, etc.

5. There are huge number of other changes other than intelligence that people start to do everywhere in the body. This will increase the differences between human groups, not reduce them. There will be separation of human groups to different species. Many groups will e.g. deliberately make such changes in the genes, that they can have children only with members of their own group. With outgroup members the pregnancy doesn’t even start.

There will be increasing differences between groups and individuals in propensities, phenotypes, physical abilities, organ functions, skeletal, etc. qualities and their combinations.

This is accompanied by increasing differences between group cultures, reflecting the genetic and consequently ecological differences, and the general desire to stay separate.

Differences in culture function as codes that serve as additional borders between groups.

People can code ingroup members with long, ostensibly random non-coding dna sequences and then use this as an additional ingroup membership code.

All this would mean the end of liberalism and the total separation of human genetic lines. Which is a good thing.

Posted by a Finn on June 10, 2009, 08:35 PM | #

Addition: Which means that ethnic genetic interests will become more important in the future,

Posted by Wild Bill on June 10, 2009, 09:05 PM | #

In 1993 Dr Robert Graham, operator of the genius sperm bank, was asked by an enthusiastic follower of his project which ultimately birthed about 290 children including a fellow named Doran with an IQ of 175, “Are we going to make it? Will we become the superman?”

Dr. Graham replied, “No. this is it.  We are as high as man is ever going to get.  You see there are so many of the dull and listless, and they are reproducing so prodigiously that we cannot even hope for anything better.  I doubt if we will be able to hold our own.”

Later that same day Dr. Graham, at one time a billionaire with a cash flow of $700 million per year, looked the young fellow in the eyes and said, “Accept in your heart, and know in your conscious mind that America is going to be completely destroyed.  Make your plans accordingly.”

I do not attempt to rain you fellows’ parade ... but I comment only to try and bring focus to the facts of the day in an attempt to steer the few boots we have on the ground towards hills that we can take.

Wake up. 

Quit dreaming. 

Get in the fight.

Posted by a Finn on June 10, 2009, 09:24 PM | #

Wild Bill: “I do not attempt to rain you fellows’ parade ... but I comment only to try and bring focus to the facts of the day in an attempt to steer the few boots we have on the ground towards hills that we can take.”

- But Wild Bill, don’t be so sparing with your wisdom. Surely you can produce to us something valuable ... right now and here.

Posted by Snore on June 11, 2009, 12:05 AM | #

Nothing like writing and reading ten thousand articles to advance your interests. Way to assess the situation. Way to adapt.

Only ten more thousand before the “masses” hear the call of the blood and “wake up”.

Posted by cladrastis on June 11, 2009, 12:10 AM | #

With respect to this article, I think the E. Asians have more to fear than we do.  How much longer before the tribe seeks a new host?

To Wild Bill:
Yes, America is doomed, but from the ashes…
Also, consider the ethnogenesis of the tribe after the Babylonian captivity; if push comes to shove, all we need is the head.

Posted by the Narrator... on June 11, 2009, 06:52 AM | #

Could this be the harbinger of an era of genetic communism that seeks to equalize phenotypes between races

Ever see an African Albino?

If racial differences were only skin deep then a common phenotype might lead to, well, who knows, but since race is also evident in skull and general bone structure as well as in traits such as temperament, intelligence, abilities etc.... I don’t see much point.

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Posted by Dasein on June 11, 2009, 10:17 AM | #

This is an interesting documentary on albino Negroes in Africa:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEtl91408eM

She mentions that when she gets onto a bus other women spit onto their own breasts to keep from catching what they think is a contagious disease.  Makes Zuma look like Robert Koch smile

Narrator, I agree with most of what you say and I discuss it in the post.  There will almost certainly never be complete mimicry of complex traits.  But I disagree with your last sentence.  The point won’t be to make Negroes indistinguishable from Whites.  It will be to lessen the differences so that more of us can ‘all just get along’.  This will be easier for certain races and admixtures than for others.  I see the main danger in its lowering resistance to miscegenation.  As long as Whites continue having White babies, the immediate danger is dispossession (local replacement) rather than genocide.  I’m not saying that what I describe is inevitable, or even highly probable, but it will cross the minds of some who would seek to race-replace us.  I do think, though, that we’ll be hearing more about ‘epigenetic legacies’ in the near future.

Posted by the Narrator... on June 11, 2009, 03:38 PM | #

The point won’t be to make Negroes indistinguishable from Whites.  It will be to lessen the differences so that more of us can ‘all just get along’.

Posted by Dasein on June 11, 2009, 10:17 AM

I wasn’t really disagreeing with your overall point, I was just making a general observation.

As to the idea (and I’ve seen it a lot) that the world would be a more peaceful place if everyone looked alike, it is a fact that about 50% or more of all conflicts have been between peoples who were indistinguishable from one another; Irish and English, Germans and French, Pakistanis and Indians, Arabs and Jews, Turks and Kurds, Japanese and Chinese and so on and so forth.

It would be great to live in a world without war and conflict, but then it would also be great to be able to soar through the air like Superman or never age like the Immortals.

Those who promote the idea that everyone will magically get along if they all look alike should be expected to fork over some historical and/or current examples of such a fantastical crime and conflict free utopia. But since there aren’t any, that ain’t gonna happen.

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Posted by Wild Bill on June 11, 2009, 11:11 PM | #

a Finn,

It looks to me like Snore communicated the concept.

Here he is, one more time:

Nothing like writing and reading ten thousand articles to advance your interests. Way to assess the situation. Way to adapt.  Only ten more thousand before the “masses” hear the call of the blood and “wake up”.

In other words, the arm chair activist is a lot like a single man living at home with mom and dad giving advice to a married couple with children.  If one is not married or has not been married and does not have children, then one doe not have a realistic idea about the day to day situation.  Is that analogy acceptable to you?

You asked me for some wisdom.
Well I can hardly keep from putting my foot in my mouth again so here goes:

Do everything you possibly can to become a better man,
step out of your comfort zone,
practice fighting skills,
talk to people in a friendly manner,
accept the fact we are being done in by white race traitors and they are our true and only enemies,
go dancing,
if you can look into your woman’s eyes when you sex her,
read about sex from the woman’s perspective, have a child with her,
do what works - not what sounds good. 

And now that I am on a roll and as you are a leading white race theoretician you absolutely must check out https://www.centerpointe.com/ for the latest technology (its 15 years old that we know of) in self induced, self directed evolution.  The program to get is called Dive. 

I have no way of demonstrating it but it must be that very high performance people in super stressful occupations have something like the Dive audio program to help them center themselves and keep moving.

Now I realize that most people cannot imagine that they can afford to spend $700 on a 28 minute brain tune up cd regardless of how much I tell them they will benefit from using it.  So I point out that Centerpoints’s program Dive is available at http://www.learningstrategies.com as disk #5 in the Euphoria collection for only $130.

I hear the guffaws and accusations of commissions paid Amway sales but I know such to come only from ignorance or trolls, not those who are serious about finding the path to white racial ascendancy and protection, which in my wisdom I know must come from a highly motivated elite.  An elite so motivated they seek out methods and techniques to first make themselves better men.

So Finn, there is my wisdom with links that you can explore and which will lead you to a glorious sunrise on the path towards your rational hopes and dreams.

Posted by a Finn on June 12, 2009, 01:25 AM | #

“So Finn, there is my wisdom with links that you can explore and which will lead you to a glorious sunrise on the path towards your rational hopes and dreams.”

- Wild Bill, I prefer the 10% support we got in the recent Eu elections. Over 9% better support than in the previous Eu elections.

Still, I hope your path towards glorious sunrise elite and all that is a happy one.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on June 12, 2009, 02:02 AM | #

I like Snore’s expression, “the call of the blood.” Good expression.  Gets right down to brass tacks.  I’ll have to remember to use it.  Often.

Posted by a Finn on June 12, 2009, 02:03 AM | #

Addition; additional prediction, if genetic engineering becomes common:

- The increased competition compels the people to increase ingroup-outgroup borders and form collectives. These are not like the old mass collectives, but group networks patterned like neural networks. Despite the membership borders the groups stay maximally connected to the outside world concerning useful information. Groups and group networks must have the ability to withstand all the scientific information, progress, society disruptions etc. without dissolving. Group networks become largely independent from the outside world and they produce all the necessities themselves. Only special scarce products is acquired from outside. Group networks represent diffuse, non-city form of living. This reduces hierarchies, power structures (more egalitarian in a good way) and unnecessary specialized jobs in everyday functions. Hutterite-like group division increases intensity and efficiency of group functions (social pressure, immediate reciprocity, trust, detailed knowledge of members, human psychological compatibility, etc.).

Posted by Wild Bill on June 12, 2009, 02:37 AM | #

... a Finn,

With the mention of the 10% of the vote your/our people got in the recent elections you are certainly moving towards critical mass.  Since elections to public office are so important I am surprised that there has not been more discussion of electoral tactics here at MR.

In rough numbers, here in America, we have 3,000 counties.  Therein there are about 50 elected offices counting mayors, judges, councilmen and other positions, all reasonably well paid.  Yet very few of our people step forth and enter a race.  Probably less than 1% of the available positions are contested by an honorable man or woman.  Consequently the political situation in America continues to deteriorate and this trend causes the sapient a hopeless foreboding.

So, in Finland, what percent of all the offices are the nationalists contesting?

What concepts do you hammer into your country men’s heads?

The incumbent president of the USA used “change we can believe in” and “yes we can” to bamboozle the canille, and his predecessor used “change, compassionate conservatism” on the same.

Are political activists able to put up signs in Finland, or do you rely on the Internet ?

What do you actually do to get the message out?

Posted by Fred Scrooby on June 12, 2009, 02:47 AM | #

From A Finn’s comment, first in the thread:

I wrote elsewhere about IQ and other genetic engineering:

1.  Many genes affect intelligence and complex change combinations are necessary for good intelligence improvement.  Slightest differences in genes or gene combinations and thus protein combinations, protein quantities or protein shapes mean the quantity and quality of intelligence improvement or sickness; seizures, developmental defects, the opposite what was the goal, etc. To be able to do this is extremely hard and it takes long time before it is possible.

Exactly.  “Designer babies through genetic engineering” are a very long way off, assuming we ever get them, which is itself open to doubt.  Cures for specific single-gene diseases such as various forms of muscular dystrophy will be available but babies “made to order” with this or that intelligence, and so on, are nowhere on the horizon and probably won’t be for a very long time if ever.

2.  When the previous can be done fairly safely then there are endless trade-offs.  If you improve some part of intelligence, there are decreasing possibilities in other areas of intelligence and/ or some other problems or weakening in the brains or elsewhere in the body.  There are literally endless trillions of different “best” gene combinations. What do you choose?

Correct.

3.  Also, because almost every gene has indirect influence on the brains, the search for “best” possible combinations of changes in genes is beyond the capability of scientists [even assuming] intelligence can be improved.

True.

5. […] Many groups will e.g. deliberately make such changes in the genes, that they can have children only with members of their own group.  With outgroup members the pregnancy doesn’t even start.

It’s hard to imagine how that would be done but it’s an excellent idea if it can be (harmlessly) accomplished, and if it can, there is no doubt whatsoever but that it’ll be adopted by certain groups including (surprise, surprise!!) certain groups of Jews (maybe the whole Jewish race).  I would certainly want it adopted by my group, given the enormous race-replacement pressures being brought to bear on whites by the white élites.

[…] People can code ingroup members with long, ostensibly random non-coding dna sequences and then use this as an additional ingroup membership code.

Another excellent idea.

All this would mean the end of liberalism …

— probably --

and the total separation of human genetic lines. Which is a good thing.

I like the way A Finn thinks.

Which means that ethnic genetic interests will become more important in the future

Agreed that that would be a consequence of the above.

Posted by a Finn on June 12, 2009, 02:48 AM | #

Wild Bill, I answer later, now I don’t have enough time.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on June 12, 2009, 03:28 AM | #

Here’s an example of what A Finn is talking about:

http://johnhawks.net/weblog/reviews/brain/development/cancer-risk-brain-evolution-mcdonald-2009.html

“Bigger Brains, More Cancer?”

Posted by a Finn on June 12, 2009, 03:30 AM | #

Thanks, Fred. one more short addition:

If the genetic engineering competition becomes fierce and there is a push towards marginal gains, it will mean that there will be increasing numbers of failures in the genetic modifications, i.e. that they pushed the changes too far and thus generated genetic diseases. The higher the level genetic engineering reaches, the more incrementally harder it will be to go above the current highest levels.

Posted by Wild Bill on June 12, 2009, 11:35 AM | #

A Finn made this remark:

If the genetic engineering competition becomes fierce and there is a push towards marginal gains,...

Robert Graham’s sperm bank produced about 290 highly intelligent and physically gifted children.  There were no known retrograde mutations, though one boy, born in New York suffered autism after being vaccinated.

The news media gradually went wild with hatred over the project and the good people in the government passed laws restricting the operations of the Repository for Germinal Choice and others like it ... because the results were so spectacular and easily available and virtually without downside risk.

But I understand that it is fun to pontificate about the theoretical advantages from the new techniques in genetic manipulation ?

A paper you should get into your library is:


The Moral Imperative of Our Future Evolution
John H. Campbell

Department of Anatomy and Cell Biology
School of Medicine, and
Center for the Study of Evolution and the
Origin of Life,
University of California,
Los Angeles, CA 90024 USA

For Robert Wesson and Patricia A. Williams: EXTENDED JOURNEYS: EVOLUTIONARY ROADS TOWARD ETHICAL THEORIES AND SOCIAL POLICIES.

1. PROLOGUE

What has the future in store for humanity? Will our descendants succumb to pollution, the population explosion, exhausted resources or grinding poverty? Might they arrive at permanent prosperity or enter the golden age of leisure? Each vision has its advocates and ethical implications. I predict that human destiny is to elevate itself to the status of a god and beyond. We will transform ourselves by evolution, the same creative process which raised our branch of life to the level of Homo sapiens. This advancement is hard upon us. In a dozen generations people well may advance as far above our contemporary form as we surpass the apes. Descendants of another dozen generations may regard our mental capacities as we do the mind of a mole. When they have progressed as far beyond us as you and I have over a mushroom, surely our descendants will match more closely our images of minor gods, if not Jupiter himself, than humans.

This prediction may raise eyebrows. Certainly it goes beyond any precedent from the past. Only some remarkable historical change could encourage us to expect the glacial pace of evolution of the past thousand years to wax to a torrent during the next millennium. Indeed, such a development is taking place. We have discovered the material basis of life. Geneticists are laying open our heredity like the circuit board of a radio, and they are fashioning the biological wrenches, pliers, connectors and ohm meters to rewire sections at will. Embryologists, neurophysiologists and cytologists promise soon to show us how to work any improvement in our phenotypes that we wish. We shall be able to redesign our biological selves at will. (Sinsheimer 1967)

The ultimate implication of our newfound biological prowess is to hand us the reins of our own evolution. This means lifting ourselves at a pace without precedence, towards goals without foreseeable bounds. The prospect seems incredible because our thinking has been trapped by misleading interpretations of eugenics, evolution, human genetics, history and reality. Each of these misconceptions would deny us the possibility of advancing. Thus, we are in danger of having a revolution in human nature spring unawares on our parochial ethical view. Any philosophy of today, based on what current people are, stands to be swept aside by issues of what people shall become.

(snip, end)

But ultimately the problem is political.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on June 12, 2009, 12:04 PM | #

Wild Bill:  this man Graham’s sperm bank had nothing to do with genetic engineering.  Screening sperm donors for a “high quality only” sperm bank marketed to women who are bizarrely striving to obtain “the best” genetics for their own artificial insemination isn’t genetic engineering.  (I put “bizarrely” because the best way for a woman to produce wonderful offspring is to find a man to fall in love with, marry, and have children the natural, time-honored way.  This other way — going to a “high-quality sperm bank” — is weird.)

Posted by Fiotheth on June 12, 2009, 04:42 PM | #

I have already heard of some pill that changes the amount of melanin in ones skin! 

Ugh I wish I remembered the name of it.  They are also called ‘tanning pills’ too apparently. 

Anyhow obviously that can be used for the ‘phenotypical engineering’ that you speak of as the Establishment pushes for the ‘tan everyman’ untermensch that the Jews demand to be created.

Posted by Wild Bill on June 12, 2009, 10:00 PM | #

to Fred Scrooby ...

Almost every woman who came to Dr Graham had a sterile husband.  That was one of his prerequisites.  I recall him saying a few husbands had hereditary illnesses. 

Doran’s mother had no husband, though she led Dr Graham to believe she had.  Dr G would not have participated in the fathering of a child without a father to help raise it…

The statistics for sterile males in the USA, according to Dr. G is 4%.

Multiply that by 200 million and realize a vast potential for the concept…

… but for some reason people like you have convinced themselves that they know everything about everything - pass some negative judgment on it and then skip on to the next topic la de da da da !  conveniently overlooking his previous position about genetic engineering in the laboratory way off in the future as a great wonderment while condemning God’s laws in sperm donation as weird.

Wo, hit me with a feather.

We certainly are making a lot of progress towards the glorious dawn!

Anyone here interested in terraforming Mars?

Posted by Fred Scrooby on June 12, 2009, 10:32 PM | #

“Almost every woman who came to Dr Graham had a sterile husband.” (—Wild Nil)

Sterility is usually a problem of the couple as a whole, not of the husband separately or the wife separately.  Many’s the husband who was told he had low sperm counts, or a varicocele, or whatever, which “explained his wife’s failure to conceive,” who then gets his G/F pregnant because, thinking he’s “sterile,” he omits to take precautions, and many’s the wife who, told she couldn’t get pregnant because of infectious scarring of the fallopian tubes or whatever, gets knocked up by her B/F:  Often it depends on whom you’re with:  gals “sterile” with their husbands get pregnant by their B/Fs and guys told likewise in regard to their wives, that they’re “sterile,” go out and get their G/Fs preggers in two seconds flat.  Then there’s the adoption phenomenon:  hordes and hordes and hordes of women told they’re incapable of getting pregnant get “in a family way” within days, weeks, months of adopting a baby because the baby finally gets the woman’s hormones flowing, the hormones the Jewish sociology professor in college managed to completely dry up and shut down with his anti-life nihilist Jewish propaganda.  Often just thinking about adopting, merely planning it, not yet actually going through with it, gets the woman’s hormones flowing for the first time since she was brainwashed so badly in Professor Shapiro’s Sociology class in college that her hormones actually shut down for years afterward, and the couple who’ve been trying for six years suddenly gets pregnant right when they think all hope is lost.  “Just forget everything your Jewish college professor told you about women’s lib, hun, start thinking about babies and having one and being a mother, and let those hormones flow, and you’ll be OK.”

“conveniently overlooking his previous position about genetic engineering in the laboratory way off in the future as a great wonderment” (—Wild Nil)

What was my “previous position about genetic engineering”?  Your rendition of it there is not quite comprehensible.

“while condemning God’s laws in sperm donation as weird.”

Yes, to be clear:  both you and Dr. Graham are assholes.

Something tells me Wild Nil is The Monitor.  Anybody happen to know?

Posted by Wild Bill on June 13, 2009, 01:35 AM | #

Fred Scrooby, you fucking piece of shit… let me count the ways troll cock sucker.

What have you done? 
Uh nothing but comment… 10,000 times ...
its your full time job as you have nothing valid to offer humanity so you troll for stipends.

Here eat some more shit and pretend you have an intellect, with the other trolls and fuck ups. 

What about terraforming Mars?  Your probably an expert on that too.  Well, hey go ahead and tell us about it.

Or some theoretical physics for nuclear fission in your back yard?  You probably wrote the book on it!

You and those multi machine guys can get together, if one or more of you can afford the gas to drive across town, and have a real nice role playing circle jerk with the winner getting to lick the losers ass. 

Your handlers despise you and they only throw pennies in the spittoon which you gleefully scoop out thrilled to be making a living.

Ha ha ha you poor people are sooo stupid.

Eat shit and die.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on June 13, 2009, 03:24 AM | #

Come back when you’re off alcohol and drugs and have had an IQ boost, Nil.  You’re a cretin.

Posted by GenoType on June 13, 2009, 05:20 PM | #

Alexander Thiele,

You and those multi machine guys can get together, if one or more of you can afford the gas to drive across town, and have a real nice role playing circle jerk with the winner getting to lick the losers ass.

Fred and I don’t engage in circle jerks, asshole.  Perhaps you didn’t notice?

By the way, wasn’t it you who “earned” his gas money in the Amway pyramid scam?  Or was it in general contracting, employing cheap Mexican labor and capitalizing on the easy credit housing bubble in Orange County, California?

Posted by Fred Scrooby on June 13, 2009, 06:00 PM | #

Listening to the car radio just a little bit ago as I was driving home, I heard an interview with the author of the following new book: 

Blue Collar and Proud of It by Joe Lamacchia and Bridget Samburg

The book’s point is college and white-collar jobs aren’t for everybody although everybody nowadays thinks that’s the pinnacle, and you can make a damn good living and have a very nice life for yourself and your wife and kids with a blue-collar trade — often better than with a white-collar livelihood.

http://www.amazon.com/Blue-Collar-Proud-All-One/dp/0757307787/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1244914811&sr=1-1

Review:

A good how-to-get-started guide, April 18, 2009

By Laura (Newton, MA) - See all my reviews

This book is written in a conversational style and encourages you to follow your heart and find a job that you love and that uses your particular strengths.  On beautiful spring days, I used to sit in my cubicle and daydream about being a mail carrier.  Now I will be thinking about a changing to a blue collar job!

If you are coming from a white-collar background, you have no idea how to get into a trade.  What are some of the choices of careers?  What are the jobs like and what skills should I have to be good at them?  Where could I get training and how much should training cost?  Do I have to start young?  Blue Collar and Proud of It gives enough information on these topics to help you know how to get started in a trade.

Added to the how-to-get-started information, the author shared the satisfaction that various blue collar workers feel when they see that their work makes a difference in the world.  Imagine the pleasure of driving past places you helped build years ago or being a mason working a fireplace made by a mason 250 years ago, and knowing your work will also endure.

As a math enthusiast, I also like that the book makes it clear that you need math for many of the trades.  It shared the success of a carpenter who didn’t do well with math in school but discovered that when he “stopped taking math and started applying it” he enjoyed math and was good at it.

Review:

I know Joe Lamacchia and he is the real deal.  This book is a great read.

--Stan Davis, author of Future Perfect (Stan Davis )

Product Description

The All-in-One Resource for Infrastructure Jobs, Green Careers, Reliable Blue-Collar Work, and More!

Not everyone is suited to a white-collar career or wants to get the four-year degree that these jobs typically require.  But that doesn’t mean you have to turn your back on a great salary, exciting work, and a profession that commands respect.

Joe Lamacchia is proof.  After graduating high school, he said no to college — and found personal and professional success as the owner of a thriving landscaping company.  He also started BlueCollarandProudofIt.com, a resource for people who want to find work in the skilled trades.  Blue-collar workers build and maintain our bridges, keep our cars running, fix our plumbing, and provide vital services to every home.  That’s why Lamacchia calls these “necessary jobs.” Most blue-collar work simply cannot be outsourced to foreign countries and it’s often recession-proof.  As Baby Boomers retire, blue-collar industries are experiencing workforce shortages because there aren’t enough well-trained people to fill all of these jobs.  That is, until now . . .

Blue Collar and Proud of It gives you the information you need to pursue a stable, enjoyable, well-paying job — one that makes a difference every day in your community.

Whether you’re just out of high school, have been a victim of downsizing, or are looking for a new direction, Lamacchia explains all the options, outlines the necessary training, and delivers true stories of people who have made their own way in the blue-collar world.  Discover a wealth of opportunities, including:

• carpentry • machinery • roofing • electricians • truck drivers • green construction
• Broadband technicians • welding • ironworkers • solar panel installation
• water conservation

Posted by Al Ross on June 13, 2009, 09:40 PM | #

In the near future many of these blue collar opportunities will be grabbed by the swelling ranks of those above (Mestizo) average IQ Latinos for whom college will not be an option. This is because, unlike many of the traditional higher average IQ White immigrants to the US, this Hispanic group does not possess the necessary cerebral wherewithal to constitute a tertiary educated, upwardly mobile, future US middle class.

Mexican immigration would have presented far fewer difficulties if the elite 9% White population of that country had moved to the US and the Mestizos and Indios had stayed behind.

Posted by danielj on June 13, 2009, 10:51 PM | #

Wild Bill,

Don’t you think applying the technique you refer to might end up causing an inbreeding problem in the long term?

I’m not sure you’ve thought out all the implications of this being practiced on a mass scale.

Maybe the reason Mongols are dumber than the Han is precisely because of Genghis’ wildly successful, personal sperm bank.

Posted by GenoType on June 15, 2009, 12:20 AM | #

Fred,

The All-in-One Resource for Infrastructure Jobs, Green Careers, Reliable Blue-Collar Work, and More!

I have to say I’m surprised.  Keep it up.

Mathematics is very important in blue-collar careers, especially electrical.  However structure, sequence, and visualization are important for most students.  Examples and problems should relate to personal interests.  Basic electrical students, for example, can use plane trigonometry in the design and construction of passive filters, basic motors/generators, and simple “light” bulbs made from test tubes, cork, wax, and Nichrome resistance wire.  Unfortunately, not many teachers have the range of experience necessary to relate mathematics beyond the level of arithmetic to the concrete.

Posted by q on June 15, 2009, 12:49 AM | #

Mathematics is very important in blue-collar careers, especially electrical.

Speaking as a Licenced Master Electrician, GT is correct.

Posted by Fraud Scrooby on June 15, 2009, 03:05 AM | #

Come back when you’re off alcohol and drugs and have had an IQ boost, Nil.  You’re a cretin.

One could have a field day recounting your unadorned, moronic, worthless statements.  You haven’t changed a bit.  A tragic combination of blusterer, dolt and sycophant, you are.

Posted by a Finn on June 15, 2009, 03:18 AM | #

Again, lack of moderation is creating a free rider problem. There is no reciprocity; so called “good will” of GW is not reciprocated. Lack of borders here resemble our countries’ lack of borders. Notice also that GW is as deaf to requests of moderation and borders as “elites” are to immigration restriction and effective borders. Results are eerily similar. Why complain about nation’s borders, if one can’t manage the borders of a meager web site. With open border policy GW can of course claim that he is not responsible, it is those who can’t control themselves that are responsible. He can make it look like it is some kind of natural force that can’t be altered. And the “natural force” together with useless compulsions etc. is keeping this site as a small funny farm. It is the modern and post-modern power’s way of suppressing things. No head on collisions, just create the environment that lets the different forces to cancel each other out, wear out, react disadvantageously or self destruct. The question whether GW is a Yard or MI5 agent or some other kind of non-governmental hostile is unimportant. What is important that he acts like one, whatever the reason.

Posted by a Finn on June 15, 2009, 04:21 AM | #

I wrote: “It is the modern and post-modern power’s way of suppressing things. No head on collisions, just create the environment that lets the different forces to cancel each other out, wear out, react disadvantageously or self destruct.”

Addition: The modern or post modern power’s goal is not making the unwanted phenomenon non-existent, but keeping it small; keeping it despised; keeping it ugly; keeping it manageable; keeping it within acceptable limits; keeping the risks small; keeping the phenomenon predictable and calculable; creating dead ends out of it; increasing the the useless frustations within it; etc.

In matter of fact small controlled phenomena that serve as warning examples, as valve and as highly visible useless dead ends serves the power well.

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