Category: The Proposition Nation
- By Dr. Graham Lister
Look, I don’t have the time or inclination to point-out the half-baked thinking of MR’s commentators or interviewed guests (if I think them to be in error). Kevin MacDonald can defend himself can he not? After all, if his ideas are completely robust how can he be subject to a ‘humiliation’? All ideas, political, philosophical and scientific, have to be stress-tested in order to investigate their validity. Why anyone is so much of a ‘special snowflake’ that they get an a priori exemption from this process is beyond me.
Now, no-one that’s sane thinks the individual per se can or should be ‘abolished’, but people have very odd and damaging ideas about what ‘the individual’ is and what it represents - such that over the longer term the ideology of ‘individualism’ has extremely deleterious effects as its model of reality is not in alignment with the true social ontology. Human beings, including Europeans, evolved in small, highly social/group orientated bands. It’s really not rocket science to understand that variation in fitness is partitioned into a group element and an individual element (whilst obviously selecting for or against specific alleles and associated phenotypic traits). In fact, such an observation mathematically and logically flows from basic population genetics, which Hamilton went on to describe as ‘inclusive fitness’ and the importance of relatedness to the evolution of behaviour and life history traits (like female biased sex-ratios in the Hymenoptera etc). Price simplified inclusive fitness theory with his work. And it’s developed since. Steven Frank’s book on social evolution is still the best starting point for anyone seriously interested in the topic.
Returning to the politics and philosophy parts of the discussion, Aristotle is my favourite thinker in these areas. First of all, he would suggest that a proper balance between the ‘parts’ and the ‘whole’ (individuals and the group) is necessary for both to fully flourish. There is a mutual interdependence and reciprocity between the two levels of social reality. Secondly, Aristotle would suggest that there may be many ways to live (like being a Lockean liberal perhaps), but many ways to live are ultimately sub- optimal with the goal of full and genuine human flourishing. And this is true at both the individual level and the group level. And yes the interests of a given individual and a given group can be conflict (again this flows from very basic evolutionary biology and the game-theoretic issue of ‘free-riders’). Thus there must be mechanisms for maintaining the health of both individuals and the collective. It starts by the recognition of the fact that the individual is social and utterly dependent upon the collective in numerous ways that liberal ‘individualistic’ ideology willfully ignores.
Ultimately, I reject liberalism as a set of false ideas about the human world - it has the ontology of humans both as individuals and as communities wrong. Bad ideas eventually result in bad consequences and one hopes vice versa. Thus, I am broadly an Aristotelian communitarian. And I think that must incorporate the realities of human nature (groupishness) and our bio-cultural differential status regarding different groups of human beings. Note, it’s a political axis of differences (bio-cultural) that ultimately ends up in the Schmittian friend-enemy distinction, not some bullshit about equality vs inequalities except that I very naturally value my own well being and life more highly than a random stranger’s and I also value the life of my extended community both today and tomorrow (the idea of an intergenerational ‘moral economy’).
Being a non-liberal, I am against cheap all-encompassing forms of universalism or the moral plateau as philosophers call it. Rather I believe in a nested hierarchy of moral responsibility. I have much more moral duties to my own children than my next door neighbour’s kids, let alone some family in China (that of course does not imply I, by default, hate people in China or wish them harm just that I feel I have minimal moral responsibilities towards them). But I do have some properly warranted moral responsibilities to my neighbourhood and my community. Moral responsibility varies with proximity (properly understood).
Roger Scruton writes about a hierarchy of moral responsibility often. Here he speaks about in the context of the absurd (and liberal) idea of ‘animal rights.’
OK, I have previously attempted on many occasions to write about and explain my thoughts on topics such as societal homogeneity and social capital etc. I will not endlessly repeat myself.
As for the idiotic, paranoid reaction by some to my reappearance, it was simply a function of me taking a quick look at MR in a quite moment and seeing folks speculation about my death! And I posted some chucks from an essay I had been reading. I am starting to get to grips with using a tablet and MR as a site isn’t the easiest to use; so out of laziness I didn’t put the comments in quotation marks. Only when someone posted them to the front page as my own did I feel duty-bound to privately point out that fact. But they are still good points of which I agree in about 90%.
No coordination with Danny or GW etc. Seeing a conspiracy at every turn is how Jews think - they project onto others their own deeply ingrained mindset. It’s both pathetic and undignified to follow that way of thinking quite so slavishly.
Speaking of slaves, can anyone seriously doubt the USA is a vassal state of Israel? The best superpower money can buy? And yet Americans still persist in their hurbris that they are the model Europeans ‘must’ follow? Look, if KM or indeed anyone else is pushing that as some sort of ‘idea’ they can go fuck themselves. Savvy?
If Mr. Bowery wishes to contribute to MR go for it. Who the fuck cares either way?
Posted by Guest Blogger on Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 07:19 AM in Anthropology, Ethnicity and Ethnic Genetic Interests, Genetics & Human Bio-Diversity, Political Philosophy, Social liberalism, That Question Again, The American right, The Ontology Project, The Proposition Nation, U.S. Politics, White Communities & Micro-Economies, White Nationalism
As European(White) Nationalists, we all know that the wake of the World Wars has not birthed favorable circumstances for our people. Thus, we are decidedly less satisfied than Max Hastings that a marked separatism from Jewish power and influence was not achieved, its necessity not even understood; and along with that that a pervasive liberalism should have won-out as consequence, potentially auguring the final chapter for Europeans in entirety.
Was it “hubris” for Poland to want its nation back? I rather think not. It’s called ethno-nationalism and it is that which we should support as opposed to internationalism. Germany was still huge after Versailles. On the Polish border, all it had lost were Posen, Bromberg and Thorn. Danzig became neutral. The Max Hastings account introduces yet more discussion of Versailles to make it more understandable as an effort at justice, as it always appeared when looking at the territorial divisions. However, there have been a couple of parties who want me to run strong anti-Polish propaganda.
The large problem with that is that for those of us who view White Nationalist media as our veritable news source now (finding other, anti-White media wholly intolerable), a hypotrophied unanimity with Nazism and its antecedent regime’s military campaigns is what we get: for whatever reasons, but probably because America is so German- American that a “by-golly, Hitler was absolutely right!” perspective is all too convenient (and the most popular and economically supported of any WN perspective) in the wake of Jewish and Neo-liberal destruction; and all the more motivated with guilt trips of World War II being most pressing upon them; their having least perspective on anything but a direct desire to throw guilt trips off as entire fabrication: nuances of perspective and history are cast aside, and ultimately, the unfortunate difficulty they have in seeing our family relations and the more relative and complex justice of the circumstance seeds potential inter-European conflict, if not war. Seeds sown oblivious to the fact that we do not care to lay guilt trips upon them, certainly not subsequent generations, they go ahead and try to lay guilt trips upon us for events before our fathers lives even. Just as they want it understood that they and their forefathers were not ex-nihilo evil, but had reasons for their wars, so too those of “Allied” descent wish to claim the same.
Yes, there were corrupt forces manipulating the circumstances, but there were also justly reasoned motives. The circumstances were a great deal more complicated and justified from an Allied perspective than The Hitler contingent of WN will ever admit. That’s a problem if you want to treat WN as your media. Because Nazi Germany and Kaiser Germany were not pure and sheer victims, as the salient contingent of WN wish to claim. But so long as their childish and Jewish style of argumentation is what is being served in WN discourse, I am left no choice but to balance things off in the service of truth. There are several sites out there for those who want to take a “Hitler only good everyone else bad” perspective. You will not hear that the German regimes did have choices: Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian and other Nationalisms, even the British, of course, could have been aligned, willing and able to fight Soviet incursions (had done so already in some instances).
Until there are other, or more, WN sites which care for the truth and represent events in the context of their nuance and balance, I must continue to highlight discussions such as that from Max Hastings. In fact, there is much there that one would never hear and learn about if the now standard WN position on several sites - “Germany’s war efforts only good, their people only victims” - were the only perspective heard; and there is a great deal of intimidation that it be the only perspective heard in WN, to the point where the opposite of PC is in effect, to where it is a veritable taboo to say anything negative about Nazi Germany and its predecessors and anything good about the Allies and their predecessors. In truth, of course, there are many things for Germans to be proud of, and some things to not be so proud of. For some reason, that is too complex a fact for some to cope with. Those of us who are sick of that childish unanimity might find Max Hastings discussion refreshing and informative.
There are thoughts on responsibility in World War I which echo very much that of WWII. Thoughts on Versailles foreign to WN discourse. And of course the great taboo in WN, to suggest that a German military could have done anything worth resisting. It was of course noble to burn the library of Leuven (they just had to do that, didn’t they?); to do whatever I am not allowed to speak about to Belgian civilians there, in Dinant and elsewhere, to French and other civilians; in Kalisz as well. No, Germany was always a perfect nation, nobody can say otherwise; if you want to blame anybody, conveniently blame Poland as Hitler and Goebbels suggested, or as Friedrich the Great might have proposed of his then vanquished neighbor.
Posted by DanielS on Wednesday, December 17, 2014 at 03:57 AM in British Politics, Education, European Nationalism, Political analysis, Revisionism, The American right, The Proposition Nation, U.S. Politics, White Genocide: Europe, White Nationalism
- Bob in D.C.
Posted by DanielS on Tuesday, November 25, 2014 at 07:45 AM in Activism, Anti-racism and white genocide, Awakenings, Blogs & Blogging, Ethnicity and Ethnic Genetic Interests, Law & Order, Marxism & Culture War, Popular Culture, The Proposition Nation
Paul Sperry, Hoover Institution media fellow and author of “The Great American Bank Robbery,” which exposes the racial politics behind the mortgage crisis - government attempt to increase minority home-ownership instigated the sub-prime housing crisis.
Posted by DanielS on Saturday, November 15, 2014 at 04:04 AM in Activism, Anti-racism and white genocide, Awakenings, Genetics & Human Bio-Diversity, Globalisation, Immigration and Politics, Marxism & Culture War, No particular place to go, Popular Culture, Social liberalism, That Question Again, The Proposition Nation, U.S. Politics, White Communities & Micro-Economies, White Genocide Project, White Genocide: America, White Nationalism
The Pejorative Side of Modernity or Civilization, Competing Theories or Allied? Part 2
Posted by DanielS on Sunday, July 6, 2014 at 03:17 PM in Activism, Anthropology, Awakenings, Ethnicity and Ethnic Genetic Interests, Eugenics, Far Right, Genetics & Human Bio-Diversity, Globalisation, Marxism & Culture War, The American right, The Proposition Nation, White Nationalism
Competition’s authentic value as opposed to its having been the most overvalued, misinterpreted biological fact of European Peoples’ interests (thank you Mr. and Ms. Dumb Bastard, Right-Winger).
This will not be a rigorous piece, rather it is meant to shed some light on a few important considerations by moving them through the terministic screens of a personal history. The issues taken into consideration are the over-valuation of competition - which corresponds closely with boiling everything down to equality/inequality being the problem, that is, the stupid right-wing position of being against “egalitarianism” - to the detriment of other methodological concerns in evaluation of qualitative identity.
Objectivism results in a susceptibility in Europeans to having their enemies shift close genetic identity into objectivist individualism and liberalism, leading to their adopting an array of absurdly affected, non-European identities. While there can be many such diversionary sub-identities, such as student/teacher of a particular non-European study at university, universalism, eastern mysticism, religion, of course, even foreign cuisine, any full treatment of diversionary identity must address sub-identities in music and sports – these will be a predominant theme here as I am familiar with them as identities, strongly held, yet come to recognize where they were more or less diversionary from European identity, quasi identities and competitions to be set aside in favor of more authentic identity.
It should not be too hard to provide facts and numbers as to the impact of these competitions and identities on European people, nor that these can significantly diminish our resource of European identity. Nevertheless, while youth in particular may be susceptible to such diversionary competition and identity, these activities also model means of identity, social participation and evaluation in determination of authenticity which do not necessarily entail violent conflict, immediately lethal, zero sum results – which we should be particularly concerned to keep to a minimum within European genus and species.
Posted by DanielS on Wednesday, April 9, 2014 at 08:18 PM in Activism, Anthropology, Anti-racism and white genocide, Awakenings, Popular Culture, Sport, The Ontology Project, The Proposition Nation, White Communities & Micro-Economies, White Nationalism
Texas Arcane: Kwanstainia, UKandia, Kanookistan, and the OZealands
By Robert Reis
I was led to Texas Arcane by a link at http://hawaiianlibertarian.blogspot.com/ .
What follows are excerpts from Texas Arcane’s ruminations at his http://vault-co.blogspot.com/ since 2007.
He has enlightened me and caused me to think about the world in new ways.
Extensive quotations are place between parallel lines, e.g. ===.
Posted by Robert Reis on Wednesday, March 26, 2014 at 01:50 AM in Australian Politics, Awakenings, British Politics, European culture, History, Immigration and Politics, New Zealand Politics, The Proposition Nation, U.S. Politics, White Genocide: America
Along with White Leftism, The White Class and other useful theoretical tools that Jews abuse and obfuscate as they direct White identity into the foibles of the Right.
This discussion will have a fringe benefit of provoking and flushing-out those who are not truly concerned with our people.
This essay is to be something of a summing-up and clarification:
“You alone are uncontingent my friend. I would counsel epistemic humility”
Thus, in background to this essay:
Posted by DanielS on Thursday, February 6, 2014 at 07:42 PM in Activism, Anti-racism and white genocide, Awakenings, Ethnicity and Ethnic Genetic Interests, European culture, Far Right, Genetics & Human Bio-Diversity, Immigration and Politics, Journalism, Liberalism & the Left, Race realism, Social Sciences, The American right, The Proposition Nation
George Addressed With a Socially Ideal but Responsible Altercast Contrary to His Individualist Plans
“Giambattista Vico is best known for his verum factum principle, first formulated in 1710 as part of his De antiquissima Italorum sapientia, ex linguae latinae originibus eruenda (1710) (“On the most ancient wisdom of the Italians, unearthed from the origins of the Latin language”). The principle states that truth is verified through creation or invention and not, as per Descartes, through observation: “The criterion and rule of the true is to have made it. Accordingly, our clear and distinct idea of the mind cannot be a criterion of the mind itself, still less of other truths. For while the mind perceives itself, it does not make itself.” This criterion for truth would later shape the history of civilization in Vico’s opus, the Scienza Nuova (The New Science, 1725), because he would argue that civil life – like mathematics – is wholly constructed.”
Posted by DanielS on Friday, January 10, 2014 at 01:43 AM in Activism, Anthropology, Awakenings, European culture, Libertarianism, Linguistics, Science & Technology, Social liberalism, Social Sciences, The Ontology Project, The Proposition Nation
What does America mean as a philosophical event? What is the place of America in philosophical discourse? Here is one possible suggestion.
A celebration of the spirit of America!
If this is indeed Ron Paul’s opinion, I would like to ask him a series of questions.
Firstly, would he say that the land which currently comprises the USA morally belongs to: a. the people of America; b. the US Federal government; c. the whole world; or d. the Mexicans?
Secondly, if the answer to the first question is anything other than a., in what sense is that consistent with libertarian beliefs about people having the unquestionable right to their justly acquired property?
If, on the other hand, the answer is a., I would like to know how forcing the American people to accommodate, on what is morally their property, 60 million strangers they have no wish to have anything to do with is consistent with libertarian beliefs about freedom of association? Does one no longer have the right even to decide with whom to associate on one’s own property?
I would furthermore like to know why Ron Paul believes that an unwanted minority, only in the US because of government indifference to who the moral holders of a property think should be let in to this property, would in any way support libertarian initiatives.
If, as I suspect, these are not Ron Paul’s genuine views, then I would like to ask the same questions of whatever anti-property, anti-freedom anarcho-communist came up with this Kulturkampf-esque plan.
Addendum: The offending passage has now been removed. The questions should still be answered by whoever thought it right to associate such a position with libertarianism. However, I would like to add the further question of why LRC felt the need to ascribe a wholly fictitious position to Ron Paul.
Excerpt from here:
“Latin will never be a truly dead language, at least not as long as ‘E pluribus unum’ appears on our money. That’s our national motto: ‘Out of many, one. ‘We’ve always been willing to welcome immigrants and help them become Americans. But the unity we once valued is unraveling. Once, new Americans were welcomed with a solemn ceremony that matched their commitment to their adopted homeland. Today’s new citizens have no such uplifting experience. To qualify they need only pass a standardized, multiple-choice test, often given in their native tongue. In fact, they’re not required to show much knowledge of English. If they can transcribe just one of two dictated sentences (correct spelling and punctuation don’t count), that merits citizenship. And the greater problem is that too many people don’t even go that far. Millions of foreigners live here today with no expectation of ever becoming citizens.”
The Failure of Democratic Nation Building: Ideology Meets Evolution (2005) is the second book on this subject by Albert Somit & Steven A. Peterson. Their first book, Darwinism, Dominance, and Democracy: The Biological Basis of Authoritarianism (1997), contends that democracy is very difficult to establish and maintain. This recent book looks at the subject again, with new warnings with regard to Iraq and Afghanistan.
They submit that “[O]ur basic thesis was that, contrary to the prevailing ideology, humans were genetically predisposed to authoritarian and hierarchical, rather than democratic and egalitarian, social and political structures. Even in a so-called Age of Democracy, we noted, democracies still constituted a definite minority among governments, as has been the case throughout the ages.”
That’s the new Canada by the way.
Hat tip: Geoff Beck
Steve Sailer has earned the ire of White Nationalists by his stated opposition to White Nationalism.
He adds further:
My views on secession, ethnic separatism, and the viability of the United States have dramatically changed, some may recall I once excoriated a Hispanic editorialist for advocating separation of California. Considering the many centrifugal forces at work in the USA, the only way, I see, to hold the center is by using terror, spies, survelliance to suppress the growing mood of separatism, and its not just White Nationalists - in fact the brew of separatism is quite strong in “ethnic” communities.
Lets face reality, Los Angeles, Atlanta, Houston, and New York City are not places where Whites are welcome. The inhabitants of these cities are not like me, and I don’t want to live with them.
Now consider Senate Bill 147, the
Native Hawaiian Government Reorganization Act
which would allow Hawiians to govern themselves free from the Washington Tyranny, the bill also includes provisions to create a new Hawaiian monarchy. This bill obviously creates a path for secession.
I welcome the legislation, for I would like to see a new White ethno state carved out of the Mississippi and Ohio valleys - a red state republic which jettisons the third world mob.
Please, I welcome comments on these matters. Am I reading this right?
The extraordinarily rapid descent into anarchy and opportunistic lawlessness in New Orleans holds certain implications for the future of America. To be precise, a non-white majority America simply will not be like the white majority America of our past. The “ties which bind” have their utility. Without them all is unconstrained-
There have been reports of killings and rapes as well.
The US Constitution gives to congress formidable powers, including the right to declare war. Instead she has chosen to surrender before the will of the executive, and she likes it that way: after all it’s not your fault 14 Americans were killed in Iraq today! The capital building is still useful, though, as a theatre of the absurd.
The drama playing in the nation’s capital features congress investigating steroid use among baseball players. Baseball, if you don’t remember, is that game where Mexicans and Dominicans throw a small hard white ball. Here is one such Dominican baseball player spitting in the face of a white American umpire. I’m sure Congress won’t touch one! That show deserves an R rating, not suitable for family viewing.
Oh, it’s not all fun and games; my congressman is hard at work. Representative Moore is sponsoring legislation to rename a post office, in honor of a long serving political boss local to these parts: the “Ed Eilert Post Office Building”.
Since whites, we are told, have no ethnic identity of our own, it is probably for this reason my wife so effortlessly overheard a conversation between two “ethnic” co-workers. I’ll try to boil the story down the best I can.
After the American Boys Scouts defied the Homosexual Mafia, by refusing to seat Sodomites as Scoutmasters, they’ve come under siege by the media. Recently, I watched CNN cover the tragic deaths at this year’s Jamboree with particular zest. This is just the beginning of troubles though, in an apparent attempt to appease the Left they’re promoting themselves as multicultural. It won’t work, I’m sorry to forecast. Yes, I was too a Boy Scout, though I doubt any of my children shall be.
In previous posts and threads I talked about the potential, even inevitability for increased racial balkanization in the USA. Balkanization will throw a “monkey wrench” into the multicultural regime that is destroying us. The more the better, therefore.
Naturally, to be of permanent benefit it has to produce a political unit that is self-governing. So I was intrigued to read of the introduction of a bill that would allow a separate government for ethnic Hawaiins.
A little more, if you can stand it, on “On Genetic Interests” … and, yes, GNXP. But I promise, I’ll give you a break after this. So …
One of the most corrosive ideologies for a majority people’s ethnic genetic interests is so-called constitutional patriotism, which can be defined as “the nation as an idea”. Once a state is redefined away from an ethnic basis and toward being a creedal nation little political barrier remains against the genetic displacement of that state’s majority ethny.
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