1885 Chinese Head Tax an issue in Canadian elections

Posted by Phil on December 15, 2005, 05:08 PM | #

I once wrote: “Canada is f****d anyway”. It appears to have tipped past the point of no return and is probably not even worth a fight. Even the most die-hard optimists will probably grudgingly admit this.

And something went horribly wrong with that country really really fast right after World War II. Its probably the worst Western nation on earth from every standpoint of “decay”.

And this was the country that Churchill glowingly referred to in his book, “A history of the English speaking peoples”.

No examination of what went wrong in Canada would be complete without a proper understanding of the corruption of White (Anglo-Celtic) Canadians in just two generations after WWII. And their descent into the abyss has been remarkably steeper than anywhere else - the US, Britain, Australia, almost any country I can think of (all of which contained the same roots of death and decay as Canada). So I can’t quite frankly put my finger on what it is that makes Canada like the real paradise of the Last Man (with a happy suicide wish - sort of like the drug addict who just wants a little more heroin and die).

As we have seen recently, Australians (by comparison and with a fairly comparable history) appear to be made of sterner stuff.

Posted by Martin Hutchinson on December 15, 2005, 05:20 PM | #

It wasn’t after WWII, it was mostly before W. MacKenzie King (Canadian PM 1920-48, with a gap in the middle somewhere)  was one of the nastiest democratic statemen of the 20th Century, thoroughly anti-British and destructive of every attempt to keep the Empire together or to preserve Canada’s traditional Conservative culture. It was in his time that, even inclding FDR, Canada became definitively LEFT of the U.S.  Pierre Trudeau, of course, was almost as bad, but Laurier and Diefenbaker in between were pretty harmless.

Posted by Svigor on December 15, 2005, 06:07 PM | #

At least Canada can serve as a petri dish for the rest of us to peer at through our microscopes, occasionally looking up to exchange glances of horror…

Nice of the Chinese to put the lie to the “model minority” bit.  It goes right along with Simon & co.‘s unprecedented generosity beneath my tree.

Posted by Matra on December 15, 2005, 06:26 PM | #

Phil: No examination of what went wrong in Canada would be complete without a proper understanding of the corruption of White (Anglo-Celtic) Canadians in just two generations after WWII. And their descent into the abyss has been remarkably steeper than anywhere else - the US, Britain, Australia, almost any country I can think of

The average Anglo Canadian leads a fairly conservative life. Most I know support immigration controls and the death penalty. They don’t binge drink or overspend. They’re conservative by British/European standards when it comes to casual sex. 

It would take too long to try to explain what has gone wrong but you have to take numerous factors into consideration such as the identity problem they have with Americans and the supposed need to placate Quebec that means watering down any conservative agenda. You must also keep in mind that a significant proportion of the population lives in almost entirely white communities so racial issues don’t even enter their heads when they’re deciding how to vote. Life for them isn’t much different from what it was for past generations so they see no reason to take action.

Posted by john rackell on December 15, 2005, 06:38 PM | #

I once wrote: “Canada is f****d anyway”. It appears to have tipped past the point of no return and is probably not even worth a fight.

Canada also has one of the world’s largest natural resources inventories: oil(tar sands), uranium, other minerals, timber, potable water, to name a few.

Most of this will go to the highest bidder, but even to get in a bid may require some ethnic ties.

Definitely worth a fight.

Posted by Desmond Jones on December 16, 2005, 04:15 AM | #

It was the English who f**ked up Canada with the Quebec Act of 1774 ending the 1763 Royal Proclamation with it’s intent of continuing the French diaspora begun in Nova Scotia in 1755. Unlike the US, Canada did not begin life as an ethnically and religiously homogeneous nation. It was multi-cultural from the get go. It was the Peelers and Manchesterites and their neocon notions of free trade who were anti-empire. They cared nothing for the Empire and showed their disdain with the repeal of the Corn Laws in 1846.

For most of the 19th century Westminster cared little for empire. It was only when they plunged themselves into a hole by their own imbecillity (like Gladstone at Khartoum, the Boer War or WWI) that a wave of imperial emotion ran through Britain, one to which Canadians, unfortunately, were not immune.

Posted by Matra on December 17, 2005, 04:59 PM | #

More on Anglo Canada - specifically Ontario

The truth is that Ontario has been demographically altered so rapidly and to such a degree, that it is no longer the same province that elected Mike Harris, as recently as 1999. And yet a huge, still basically WASP, semi-rural Ontario continues to exist out there, and continues to share precisely the same ethos and outlook as Alberta—minus the will to live. I believe the “tipping point” that was reached, after decades of weighting the Ontario electorate with “new Canadians”, has had its effect on the old Ontarians, too. They no longer think of themselves as “maîtres chez nous”. (Go ahead: call me Jacques Parizeau.)

By contrast, Albertans still feel themselves a majority in their own province, exuberantly capable of assimilating outsiders, rather than apologizing for their own existence. That is why they are capable of being angry with Ottawa—because Ottawa is trying to take things away from them that they still feel they own…

Old Ontarians feel in their hearts that what was taken is gone.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on December 17, 2005, 07:28 PM | #

“It was the English who f**ked up Canada with the Quebec Act of 1774 ending the 1763 Royal Proclamation with its intent of continuing the French diaspora begun in Nova Scotia in 1755.”  (—Desmond Jones)

I’ve no doubt it was indeed the English who f**cked up Canuckistan:  it was they who f**cked up South Africa (the English and the Jews acting in concert, leaving the Boers, the only whites who protested, standing there holding the bag and now suffering the dire consequences of the whole mess while the other two groups have made their getaway to London, Oz/NZ, the States, and other places doubtless soon to be f**cked up in turn and totally ruined by these twin geniuses the Anglo-Saxons and the Jews.  (Don’t worry, everyone—I am an Anglophile ... and as for the Jews, let’s just say ... I don’t have as much against them as some others do, and leave it at that ... but I just wanted to face a few unpleasant facts in that little screed ...). 

Anyway, enough of my little rant—I wanted to get into this thread to ask why no one, when mentioning how it was that Canada got officially transformed from Canada into the People’s Soviet Socialist Republic of Canuckistan has mentioned 60s Canadian Prime Minister Lester Pearson, widely accused of having previously been a comsymp or outright red and possibly an actual Soviet agent during his years in the Canadian embassy in D.C. from 1942 to 1946 (it is said he secretly passed top-secret allied military info and war plans to Moscow during that whole period). 

Whenever I’ve looked into it there’s a difference of opinion on the matter, some saying he was a lifelong opponent of Soviet Communism, others calling him an out-and-out spy on the order of Kim Philby and Co., and the rest in between the two extremes.  I suspect he was a lefty jerk, at the very least, and played a central role in bringing about the above transformation of our neighbor to the north. 

Here‘s a funny anecdote telling how this little lefty was treated by Lyndon Johnson during a visit to the White House:

“Pearson spoke at Temple University in Philadelphia on April 2, 1965 [...] and voiced his support for a negotiated settlement to the Vietnam War. When he visited U.S. President Lyndon B. Johnson hours later, Johnson strongly berated Pearson. [...] Johnson grabbed Pearson by the lapels, shook him, and shouted ‘You pissed on my rug!’  Pearson later recounted that the meeting was acrimonious [...]”

Well, though Johnson was certainly no “prize” himself, Pearson deserved that treatment and far worse, if only for the following crime (let alone his alleged Soviet spying):

“Pearson was also remarkable for instituting the world’s first race-free immigration system [...]” 

(which of course was exactly what Johnson turned around and signed into law for the United States in 1965 with plenty of help from ... guess which group?) ....  (I tell ya, you get the Anglo-Saxons and Jews together and no country is safe ...)
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that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.”—Enoch Powell
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—Balkanization is better than Brazilianization!
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:  the gift that keeps on giving!
—What’s sauce for the goose is sauce for the usual suspects!
—“White fellows fight back and we fight back hard; it is in our genes, being Anglos.”—Andrew

Posted by Desmond Jones on December 18, 2005, 04:08 PM | #

Fred, Pearson and the Canuck elites were Yankee toadies at least since Ogdensburg. The flies at the pond were were just too sumptuous to pass up. Remember, the Yanks extended lend-lease to cover Cdn shipments of war goods to the UK. The Defence Production Sharing Agreements were just too juicy a bone to pass up. Pearson did Ike’s bidding at Suez, (Dulles requested Pearson provide fighter jets to Israel) Johnson’s in Cyprus and America’s in Vietnam.

The Pentagon papers, leaked to the New York Times in 1971, revealed that J. Blair Seaborn, Canada’s new ICC commissioner, supposedly on a mission as an independent diplomat, also gathered intelligence for US authorities in regard to Vietnam’s will to resist, the potential existence of friendly factions within the North Vietnamese government and the status of the rapport between the North and China and the Soviet Union. [Victor Levant, Quiet Complicity: Canadian Involvement in the Vietnam War, (Toronto: Between the lines, 1986),  p. 179]

Seaborn was also to “convince Hanoi that if it becomes necessary to enlarge the military action, this is the most probable course of US action.” . Although denying knowledge of the US plan to escalate the bombing, the Pentagon Papers later revealed that Pearson, not only was aware of this action months before, but also approved of it. “He specified that we would have great reservations about the use of nuclear weapons, however, he indicated that the punitive striking of discriminate targets by discriminate iron bomb attacks would be ‘a different thing.’

In 1967, the Globe and Mail reported that Canadian Captain James MacFie left North Vietnam at the request of Hanoi for actions harmful to the North’s security. The Montreal Star reported that Canadians “are passing on their first hand observations…on the effectiveness of US bombing attacks and other matters of military significance” .  It is clear that Canada conveyed US threats to Hanoi, played a part in spying for the US and spotted the bombing raids over both Haiphong and Hanoi.

At home, 500 firms sold $2.5 billion of war materiel (ammunition, napalm, aircraft engines and explosives) to the Pentagon. Another $10 billion in food, beverages, berets and boots for the troops was exported to the US, as well as nickel, copper, lead, brass and oil for shell casings, wiring, plate armour and military transport.

In Canada unemployment fell to record low levels of 3.9%, the gross domestic product rose by 6% yearly, and capital expenditure expanded in manufacturing and mining as US firms invested more than $3 billion in Canada to offset shrinking domestic capacity as a result of the war. 

Not suprisingly, Wiki is wrong Fred. It was Diefenbaker’s Conservatives(?) that altered Canada’s white’s only immigration policy. With the usually white ethnic culprits implicit in the ongoing demise of WASP Canada.

Posted by Geoff Beck on December 22, 2005, 11:02 AM | #

Matra,

I’ve always enjoyed reading your thoughts. I especially enjoyed your insights into N. Ireland and the British Army in another post.

I’d like to share these links with you:

//Calculus Requirement Nixed in Multiculti Ontario
http://globecareers.workopolis.com/servlet/Content/fasttrack/20051220/CALCULUS20?section=Education

Meanwhile, the crown prosecutes this oddball…. (sorry no link)

Chris Purdy
The Edmonton Journal
Thursday, December 15, 2005

EDMONTON - The Crown will recommend that Reinhard Mueller serve jail time for operating a racist website that denies the Holocaust and promotes hatred against Jewish people.

After three hours of deliberations on Wednesday, a jury convicted 62-year-old Mueller of one count of promoting hatred through his website called Federation of Free Planets.

It is believed to be the first Internet hate crime case to go to trial in Alberta.

Mueller admitted he wrote material, which he posted on the site between 1999 and 2003, describing Jews as “sub-humans” and “demons.”

He also claimed Jews are responsible for creating the Ebola and AIDS viruses, for the collapse of the World Trade Center towers and for the Columbia space shuttle disaster. [ it is true that every space shuttle disaster that involved the loss of lives had a jew on board ]

“The Crown here in Alberta has no tolerance for that sort of behaviour,” prosecutor Steve Bilodeau said outside court.

Bilodeau told Court of Queen’s Bench Justice Philip Clarke that he wants Mueller punished in jail instead of being handed a conditional sentence he can serve at home.

He said he plans to call evidence showing anti-Semitism is prevalent in Canada and harmful to society.

Clarke is to sentence Mueller in the new year. A conviction under Canada’s hate-crime law carries a maximum two-year jail term.

“I deem this to be a dark day for Canada,” Mueller told Clarke after the jury delivered its verdict and filed out of the courtroom. “I think the jury has made a serious mistake.”

Mueller, who represented himself during the trial, said he was insulted when Bilodeau asked Clarke to order a psychiatric exam before the sentencing hearing.

“I’ve always believed myself to be a person of sound mind and judgment,” said Mueller.

Clarke ruled Mueller is competent and a psychiatric exam is unwarranted.

No witnesses were called during the trial, but Bilodeau gave the jury binders containing hundreds of pages printed from the website. Mueller took the witness stand on his own behalf.

He told the jury six million Jews did not die in the Holocaust. [ Nothing unusual there. Many others agree, including some jews. ]

He also testified that ancient writings have declared him a spiritual leader called the Lion of the Tribe of Judah. He said he has authority over the destiny of the Jewish people and therefore the right to chastise them. Mueller, who changed his name to Reni Sentana-Ries following his arrest last year, has since moved to Two Hills with his wife.

Using the name Uthrania Seila, she wrote similar material that Mueller posted on a second website, but she was not charged in the case.

She did not attend the trial. Mueller said she had to stay home to look after their pet parrot.

Posted by Matra on January 19, 2006, 04:21 PM | #

The Head Tax issue seems to be getting bigger as the election campaign goes on.

At a meeting about the tax:

Richmond Conservative candidate Darrel Reid came out to show his support.

What he got was a room full of boos and taunts from elderly Chinese-Canadians in Richmond yesterday.

That’s because Reid wouldn’t sign a petition swearing his support for head-tax payers and their descendants, who are seeking an official apology from the government.

Though Reid said he supported the idea, his party’s lawyers warned him against actually signing any documents, because a section of the Canada Elections Act prohibits such pledges if it later limits a parliamentarian’s freedom of action.

Link

Thank God those Chinese are so non-confrontational and undemanding of the societies they settle in! Imagine what it would be like if they were just like every other non-white minority group!

Posted by Matra on January 19, 2006, 04:31 PM | #

Geoff,

I’ve just now seen your previous post.

The man responsible for the most recent “anti-hate” law in Canada - covering the internet - is Justice Minister Irwin Cotler.

Posted by Matra on April 22, 2006, 12:25 PM | #

With the new Conservative minority government getting ready to apologise to the Chinese community over the Head Tax Immigration Watch Canada has published a series of articles on why the Chinese were forced to pay to enter Canada. The linked article entitled Some Conclusions About The Chinese Head Tax and Chinese Exclusion Laws sums them up explaining the whole situation. The final conclusion:

Although the Chinese Head Tax and Chinese Exclusion laws may seem like old matters, they are very definitely related to modern immigration issues. Although a number of people involved in the advocacy are honest and well-intentioned, they are clearly being used by Canada’s immigration industry for other purposes. The resurrection of these two issues is intended to evoke guilt in Canada’s host population and to put Canadians on the never-ending road to that place called Absolution. The motive is blunt: to maintain or increase current immigration levels and to promote further opening of Canada’s borders. Under the guise of justice and restitution, Canada’s immigration industry seeks to legitimize the idea that there are no economic, environmental, or cultural limits to Canada. This will be an unmitigated disaster for the country.

Meanwhile Asian Indians are getting in on the act. They are demanding an apology for the Komagata Maru incident.

Once you display weakness by giving in to the demands of one minority you can be sure others will start circling like vultures.

Posted by Desmond Jones on April 22, 2006, 03:10 PM | #

Interesting Matra, thanks for posting it. It appears Michael’s back with a flurry of activity. To paraphrase Basil Fawlty, “Just don’t mention the Holocaust…I did and I think I got away with it”. 

How can you speak badly of the Ukies? They produced three of the greatest goalies of all time!!!

Posted by Matra on April 22, 2006, 03:20 PM | #

Desmond - In the Forum section I also posted a link to today’s Toronto star article Queens University’s “culture of whiteness” problem.

http://majorityrights.com/index.php/forums/viewforum/53/

“How can you speak badly of the Ukies? They produced three of the greatest goalies of all time!!!”

Don’t forget Wayne Gretzky.

Posted by Desmond Jones on April 22, 2006, 03:43 PM | #

Interesting timing of that Star piece Matra. It was only about a year ago that Justin Schwieg was stabbed to death in a Kingston bar by Bruce Keno Elijah McKenzie, aka, Fuzzy J from Brampton. You can guess Fuzzy J’s race.

They can have Gretz, I’ll take Gordie. 

Posted by Matra on April 22, 2006, 08:15 PM | #

I’d never heard of this Justin Schwieg. But, of course, why should I have? Canadians are too busy patting themselves on the back for being so much more tolerant than those evil American racists to care whether their own citizens are being replaced or even killed by Third Worlders.

Posted by Matra on June 23, 2006, 06:00 PM | #

Yesterday PM Stephen Harper officially apologised to Chinese-Canadians over the head tax. Compensation is being paid to the few living widows of men who had to pay the tax.

Not mentioned in any reports was the impact of importing cheap Chinese labourers on Canadian workers. Employers were able to hire Chinese for half what they would’ve paid to Canadians - mostly British Columbians. A Canadian labourer needed to earn money for his entire family and couldn’t do so on the wages the Chinese happily accepted. Word about this spread to other parts of Canada and even Britain and had a negative impact on the development of British Columbia.

Immigration Watch Canada mentions a few results of Chinese migration to Canada in the late 19th and early 20th centuries that haven’t come up in the Canadian MSM:

The objections to the Chinese in market gardening were that the Chinese threatened community health by using their own urine and excrement as fertilizers; that they undersold their vegetables; that they paid low wages to employees; and that Chinese gardeners had private commission arrangements with Chinese cooks employed in houses to discriminate against non-Chinese vegetable sellers.

J.T. Smith (farmer) testified: “They (the Chinese) use their own water (urine). They save it all winter in jars. They take it out and pour it on vegetables…. I have seen it done and dozens of other farmers have seen the same.” (P.68) The Chinese cooks who were employed in private households bought only from Chinese vegetable sellers. Harry Atkinson, “landscape and market gardener” (in Britain) , testified to this commission: “I know from Chinamen who have told me.” (P.67) “If a white man applies to a Chinese cook to sell vegetables, the answer is:‘None are wanted’; if a Chinaman applies, he sells.”

On Chinese labour in mines:

John C. McGregor (representing the Miners’ Union) presented a union resolution to restrict Chinese labourers from working underground. The reason given was that two major accidents had occurred: one in Nanaimo, “resulting in the loss of over one hundred lives, and (one) the following year in Wellington with almost a similar result…(76 deaths)”. (P.83) The union alleged that Chinese workers were responsible for the two disasters. Mine owners subsequently removed Chinese labourers from underground work.

None of the negative consequences the Chinese had on Canadians will be remembered. What will be remembered is that Canada mistreated Chinese and eventually owned up to it. So the apology represents a victory for not only ethnic Chinese but of all non-Anglo-Saxons (including Europeans with gripes such as Italians and Ukrainians) over the ethnic core of English Canada. The ‘racist’ head tax will be seen as yet more evidence of how horrible Canada was before it became multicultural.

Posted by Al Ross on June 23, 2006, 06:33 PM | #

Any day now the Chinese Government will apologise to Whites for nineteenth-century conduct which included limiting Europeans and Americans in China to residence in specially designated zones, with the penalty for straying outwith those areas being death.

Posted by Matra on June 24, 2006, 12:41 AM | #

Al Ross - Yes, any day now whites will be getting an apology from the Chinese government. And so will the White Russian exiles mistreated in China throughout the 20s, 30s, and 40s. Any day now

I pointed out that ethnic Europeans, such as Ukrainians were victors with regards to the head tax apology, as well as the Chinese. A Ukrainian-Canadian blogger has this:

Ukrainian Canadians say they need increased funding from the federal government to acknowledge and chronicle their mistreatment in Canada during the First World War.

An estimated 6,000 Ukrainians were imprisoned in Canada during the war. In addition, tens of thousands more were obliged to register as enemy aliens.

The government did offer money last year for memorials and education programs about the internment, but no apology has been issued in the House of Commons.

[. . .]

On Thursday, Prime Minister Stephen Harper called Canada’s treatment of Chinese Canadians a “great injustice” particularly the requirement, between 1885 and 1923, to have Chinese immigrants pay a head tax to enter the country.

[. . .]

On Thursday, the daughter of the last surviving Ukrainian internee questioned the government’s motives when it comes to financial redress.

“I think decisions are made a little bit as to the votes they’re going to get from certain decisions,” said Fran Haskett, whose mother Mary, 97, is “one of many who suffered injustices and rough treatment.”

I’m glad that Michael of the invaluable Hogtown Front blog is willing to draw attention to his fellow Ukrainian-Canadians when they demand something from Canada. (Keep in mind those Ukrainians who were imprisoned were spared the Holodomor and decades of Soviet rule). It gives us hope that some non-Anglo-Saxons realise how ridiculous all these ethnic demands are. As an Anglo-Saxon (actually more Celtic than Saxon) immigrant I’d support a moratorium on immigration even if it meant no more immigrants from my native land. I wish more members of other European ethnic groups felt the same way.

Posted by Matra on August 01, 2008, 01:45 PM | #

Speaking of the Chinese and heads. The suspect in yesterday’s beheading of a white guy on a bus in Manitoba has been named: Vince Weiguang Li

Passengers described fleeing in terror from a Greyhound bus outside Portage la Prairie - 85 kilometres west of Winnipeg - as a passenger suddenly stabbed the man sleeping next to him, decapitated him and waved the severed head at horrified witnesses standing outside.