A minor reservation about mainstream American politics

Posted by sr on September 09, 2005, 12:07 PM | #

Isn’t it well known that the extreme right wraps around to meet the extreme left? But our position is not really “right” or “left”, but beyond them: it is some “Third Position”, a trope which isn’t new. We aren’t libertarians, either; we read Evola and Dugin, or we should; and we will win.

Posted by Svigor on September 09, 2005, 02:13 PM | #

One of the odd consequences of that are the bizarre results of online political loyalty quizzes, or anything of that nature that I occasionally fill out.  Usually, I am advised: “you are a devoted Democrat.”

I get consistently centrist results on those tests, at least the ones that don’t ask enough or any racial questions.

Racial Nationalism transcends other concerns; I think of it as meta-politics.  I couldn’t give less of a crap if a fellow Racial Nationalist believes in the welfare state, or minarchism, or protectionism, or free trade.

Posted by Steve Edwards on September 09, 2005, 02:28 PM | #

“I couldn’t give less of a crap if a fellow Racial Nationalist believes in the welfare state, or minarchism, or protectionism, or free trade.”

The interesting point is that these ideologies (socialism, classical liberalism, conservatism, etc) can only meaningfully exist in a relatively homogenous polity. Anything else simply descends into an inter-racial smash and grab - as Lee Kwan Yew has more or less pointed out.

Multiculturalism doesn’t work for socialism or libertarianism. Firstly, it effectively spells the end of a universal welfare state (which relies on some level of social capital in order to function). Secondly, it forces massive compromises from the host (majority) population and extensively restricts individual liberties: such as freedom of speech, movement, and association, as well as the right to hire/fire whomever you wish.

Obviously, there is nothing “conservative” about dissolving your own society, either.

I’m more on the libertarian side of politics, with the one caveat that there was never an acceptable justification for overthrowing Australia’s ethno-cultural majority, and nor will there be in future. For some reason, many fellow libertarians are unable to conceptualise just how dangerous multiculturalism is to the cause of limited constitutional government.

Posted by JW Holliday on September 09, 2005, 02:42 PM | #

Speaking of multiculturalism, this is of interest.

Actually, this is good.  Increase balkanization, decrease assimilation. Recognition: European vs. Asian derived peoples - different biologically and culturally with defined and variant race-specific interests.

Let the Asiatic aliens have their own TV channels; we should have our own as well.

Balkanize, Balkanize, BALKANIZE ... that is the solution.

Once the passive majority starts demanding the same goodies as the catered-to organized minorities, the chair has been kicked out from under the fat, bloated arse of multiculturalism.

Now that’ll be one big hard fall.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on September 10, 2005, 12:12 AM | #

“the current American electoral fraud”  (—from the log entry)

Bush’s campaign strategy:  “

some of the people all the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on.”  (That’s apparently an actual quote from him.)

“there was never an acceptable justification for overthrowing Australia’s ethno-cultural majority”  (—Steve Edwards)

Truer, humbler, simpler words ... were never written.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on September 10, 2005, 01:36 AM | #

“I nearly fell

out of my Barcalounger Sunday morning, watching The McLaughlin Group.  The old Jesuit had Pat Buchanan, Eleanor Clift, Tony Blankley, and Clarence Page (who is black) sitting around.  They were talking about Hurricane Katrina, of course.  Suddenly, McLaughlin turned to Page and said:  ‘Why the correlation between black and poor?’

“Good grief, I thought, you can’t ask that.  People get taken off the air for less.  Poor Clarence Page didn’t know whether to spit or wind his watch.  He mumbled something that wasn’t even close to being an answer.  McLaughlin, realizing his gaffe, quickly and deftly steered the talk to other topics.  Everybody in the studio, and all of us out there in viewerland, started breathing again.  You can’t ask THAT.  Nobody wants to hear about THAT.

“At my neighbourhood block party that afternoon a white liberal neighbour expressed the sense of national shame that we’d all felt at some point in Katrina Week.  ‘It was like some Third World country!,’ he said.  ‘Like Somalia, or Haiti…’  The guy stopped dead in his tracks, suddenly aware of what he had implied, then desperately back-pedaled, trying to erase his thoughtcrime.  ‘I mean, you know, Third World.  Like, um, Cambodia…’  Those of us listening nodded in sympathy, silently thinking:  Nice save there, guy.

“All of us, and John McLaughlin, and very likely Clarence Page too, all of us were still haunted by what we’d been watching on our TV screens through Katrina Week:  the spectacle of several thousand black Americans openly, nakedly displaying their helpless, hopeless, clueless, angry dependency.  It was there, it was real, though we’re stuffing it down the memory hole now as fast as we can work our fingers.  Come on, you saw it too.  What did you think?  What did you feel?

“Speaking for myself, I felt pity, anger, and shame [...].

“Pity.  It could hardly be plainer that nobody gives a damn about these poor black people, and nobody has any clue how to lift them up, least of all the people who bellyache endlessly about ‘racism’ (see next point).  The meritocracy vacuums up every clever, talented black kid it can find and puts him through college, after which he is welcomed joyfully into the Cognitive Elite.  (Hey, look at us!  No racism here!)  The rest are packed off into welfare slums, or jails — anywhere really, so long as we don’t have to think about them.  Yale or jail.

“Anger.  The whole thing woke my anger at liberals, big time.  What lying, thieving hypocrites they are!  All their vaunted ‘programs,’ all that money, all those decades of preaching to us.  What’s it accomplished?  Black people don’t actually occupy any space in a white liberal’s mind at all.  All their pretended concern is just intra-tribal moral posturing, asserting their moral superiority over other whites.  Horrible, horrible, people.  Hey, Teddy, Hillary, Barbra:  You have a few houses each — how about giving one or two of them over to a poor black family flooded out from New Orleans?  Whaddya say?  Hillary?  Ted?  Hello?

“Shame.  Just like my neighbor.  More so, if I may thus flatter myself, since I am a naturalized citizen.  I chose this country. [...W]e can’t stir ourselves to care about this above the level of posturing and lip service and cooking up convoluted lies to tell ourselves [...].

“The lying is the worst.  Boy, how we lie to ourselves.”
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[Derb’s piece noticed via

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