America turns on Bush over Iraq

Reality must hit home, eventually.

Three in five want troops out as President vows to stay

By Rupert Cornwell in Washington
25 June 2005

One year after sovereignty restored, nation is in crisis

Beset by fading public support for the war and growing violence on the ground, President George Bush flatly rejected any timetable for troop withdrawal from Iraq, vowing the United States would stay until the insurgency was defeated and democracy had been established.

“This is a time of testing, a critical time,” Mr Bush acknowledged yesterday after a meeting at the White House with Ibrahim al-Jaafari, the Iraqi Prime Minister. The insurgents “feel that if they can shake our will and affect our public opinion, we’ll give up on the mission. But I’m not giving up the mission, we’re doing the right thing”. The President was speaking amid unprecedented challenges to his whole Iraq policy. A week of carnage in that country was capped by news that six marines were killed on Thursday in the former rebel stronghold of Fallujah, lifting the total American death toll in Iraq to a total of 1,730.

Several victims were believed to be female marines. The Pentagon said they died when a suicide car bomber exploded his vehicle as a US military convoy was passing. The attack is the 479th recorded car bombing since the handover of sovereignty on 28 June 2004. Even more serious is the ebbing support on the home front. Polls show a majority of Americans believe the March 2003 invasion to topple Saddam Hussein was a mistake. Some 60 per cent now favour a troop pullout, while Mr Bush’s approval rating has tumbled to little more than 40 per cent, the lowest of any second-term president since Richard Nixon in the throes of Watergate.

Tense Congressional hearings moreover laid bare this week the growing divide between the sombre assessments of the situation from US commanders on the ground, and the resolutely optimistic picture painted by the civilian leadership - notably the recent assertion by Dick Cheney, the Vice-President, that the insurgency was “in its last throes”. In a bid to rally public support, Mr Bush will deliver a televised address on Iraq when he visits the army base at Fort Bragg, North Carolina.

Despite appearances, progress was being made, the President insisted. At every major step, from January’s elections to the agreement to bring more Sunnis into the constitution-writing process, “the Iraqi people have met their strategic objectives”. The way ahead would not be easy, and US and Iraqiforces were facing “a violent and ruthless enemy”, Mr Bush said.

Mr Jaafari sounded equally determined, arguing against any withdrawal timetable for US troops. He spoke of “steady and substantial progress”, adding that the constitution would be completed on scheduled and “there is a will in Iraq to succeed”. For all the brave talk, however, the spectre of Vietnam is stirring. In terms of duration and casualties, the two conflicts are hardly comparable - the Vietnam war lasted a decade, and claimed 58,000 US lives, while fewer than 2,000 American troops have died in Iraq since the invasion two years ago.

But the similarities in the national mood are hard to ignore. The word “quagmire” has returned to the debate - Mr Bush even made a joking reference to it yesterday, when asked by a journalist about his declining popularity and political difficulties.

More serious is a decline in public support for the war, which proved fatal to the Vietnam enterprise three decades ago. Republicans and Democrats are complaining that the administration has no credible plan for victory, while General John Abizaid, the commander of US forces in Iraq, has voiced the military’s alarm over the public mood.

Troops in Iraq were becoming aware of the decline in enthusiasm for the war at home, General Abizaid told a Congressional hearing, and the troops were asking him “whether or not they’ve got support from the American people”. While confidence among soldiers in the field was high, “I’ve never seen the lack of confidence greater” among politicians in Washington.

Speaking of his native South Carolina, Senator Lindsay Graham told General Abizaid that “in the most patriotic state I can imagine, people are beginning to question ... I think we have a chronic problem on our hands.” The blame lies mainly with the unrelenting tide of bad news. Grim images of Baghdad streets devastated by Thursday’s car bombings dominated the main US papers yesterday. “They know the carnage they wreak will be on TV. They know it bothers Americans to see death. It bothers the Iraqis. It bothers me,” Mr Bush said.

Posted by Phil Peterson on Saturday, June 25, 2005 at 05:16 AM in U.S. Politics
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Posted by Geoff Beck on June 25, 2005, 10:39 AM | #

Phil,

Don’t forget Bush tapped into a latent patriotism. Countless millions are deeply emotionally invested in the Bush War.

They see the Bush War as a matter of absolute life & death. That is if we don’t triumph in Iraq, well, somehow the end is coming.

Anyway, checkout Freerepublic when someone posts a story reporting bad news in Iraq, or when a congressman objects to the war: they want blood. They want the congressman arrested.

If the war turns sour and we face an obvious defeat, these people may turn thier energy into destructive ends.

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Posted by Phil on June 25, 2005, 11:17 AM | #

the Bush War

Chuckle. That has a nice ring to it.

Anyway, checkout Freerepublic

I go there sometimes though I never comment. Some real Neurotics out there.

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Posted by Phil on June 25, 2005, 11:27 AM | #

Geoff,

There is hope here I think. When the Iraq disaster has run its full course, what will these neurotics do? Who will they turn to?

Food for thought. Winning those people should be one of our priorities. These people can, under the right conditions, be “converted”.

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Posted by Stuka on June 25, 2005, 11:57 AM | #

Anyway, checkout Freerepublic

I go there sometimes though I never comment. Some real Neurotics out there.


You can say that again. I’ve been harrassed, threatened, and banned several times by the liberals at FreeRepublic merely for questioning Bush and the Iraq war. My most recent attempt lasted just under 2 hours.

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Posted by Phil on June 25, 2005, 12:49 PM | #

Stuka,

The key is to be excruciatingly moderate - going there with the understanding that it is enemy territory. The majority of people in such places are not the enemy. The moderators are.

The people who were reading National Review (to take another American example) in the early 1990s were not enemies to our cause. They were, in fact, more like cousins. BUT, the editorial board (beginning with the pernicious influences of the Podhoretzes) was the enemy.

I think the same thing is happening with Free Republic. Opinion is being “shaped” in the same way that National Review was “shaped” by the firing of Peter Brimelow.

My problem is that I am extremely combative and like winning arguments rather than persisting with people (who are being aggressive) to try to convert them.

But, to convert them, the way to do it is by being eloquent, by being extremely moderate in tone and by putting up a case based only on facts (and doing it slowly - by dealing with the intricacies of war propaganda, for example to take the case of Iraq).

If 10 out of 100 understand and change their views, you’ve more than succeeded.

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Posted by Amon on June 26, 2005, 09:34 AM | #

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