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Boyfriend was stabbed 46 times in ‘honour killing’, court toldThe joys of multiculturalism.......... A UNIVERSITY student was murdered to “vindicate a family’s honour” after he fell in love with their daughter and made her pregnant, a court was told yesterday. Chomir Ali, a Bangladeshi Muslim living in Oxford, ordered his son, Mohammed Mujibar Rahman, to kill Arash Ghorbani-Zarin for the “shame and dishonour” brought on their family by Mr Ghorbani-Zarin’s relationship with his daughter, Manna Begum, it was alleged at Oxford Crown Court. Julian Baughan, QC, for the prosecution, said that Mr Ali, a 44-year-old waiter, became “angry” in summer 2003 when his 19-year-old daughter began going out with Mr Ghorbani-Zarin, 19, who was from a Muslim Iranian family living in Oxford. Mr Baughan told the trial that Miss Begum already had a marriage to someone else arranged for her; but despite her family’s disapproval, the lovers continued to see each other, the court was told. Mr Ali banned his daughter from contacting her boyfriend, taking her mobile phone from her and prohibiting her from leaving the family home. This led her to attempt suicide and run away from home to stay with a friend’s aunt, the court was told. In August last year the couple got engaged after Miss Begum discovered that she was pregnant with Mr Ghorbani-Zarin’s child. Miss Begum returned home in October, and again her boyfriend was told by Mr Ali that he was not welcome. On November 20 Mr Ghorbani-Zarin was found dead in his car, a green Renault, in Spencer Crescent, Oxford, which is close to his home. He had been on his way to watch a DVD at a friend’s house. His friend began looking for him when Mr Ghorbani-Zarin did not turn up. He was found with 46 stab wounds, mainly to the chest, the trial was told. His head had been tied to the headrest of the car following his death, Mr Baughan said, and he was found by passers-by. Mr Baughan alleged that Mr Ali’s son, known as Muji, had committed the murder. Muji, 19, was arrested the next day. Three days later a man, alleged to be Mr Ali, was spotted stopping his red Toyota car at nearby allotments and throwing a bag over a hedge. The supermarket carrier bag was found to contain a knife covered in Mr Ghorbani-Zarin’s blood and clothes which DNA tests showed were worn by Mr Ali’s son. The father and son are standing trial for murder. Also on trial for murder is a 16-year-old, who cannot be named. Mr Ali also faces an alternative charge of assisting an offender. He is not said to have been present at the killing. Mr Baughan told the jury that the “family’s dislike of the relationship was the motive” for the murder. Mr Baughan said: “The relationship brought shame and dishonour on the family that drove the accused to murder Mr Ghorbani-Zarin to vindicate the family’s honour.” He added that in November 2003 the treatment to which Miss Begum’s family subjected her led to her slitting her wrists. Ambulance staff were contacted and Mr Ali and his wife refused to let them in, pushing Miss Begum out of the house and causing her head to hit the pavement, the court was told. In the week before his murder Mr Ghorbani-Zarin had shown friends a scan of his unborn child, inviting them to his forthcoming wedding. Mr Ghorbani-Zarin, an electronic engineering student at Oxford Brookes University, was described by Mr Baughan as “fun-loving” with a great sense of humour and “without an enemy in the world”. On realising Miss Begum was expecting his baby, he quit his course and got a job at a toy store, intending to provide for his family, the court was told. Posted by Phil Peterson on Thursday, October 6, 2005 at 03:57 AM in Islam & Islamification Comments:2
Posted by J Richards on October 06, 2005, 06:58 AM | # Phil, When posting examples such as this one, please also cite/link to materials that show that such events are not isolated and cannot simply be dismissed as the work of some individuals rather than something that reflects negatively on the Moslem community in general. It is also necessary to cite Islamic literature to show that such criminal behavior cannot simply be blamed upon culture, i.e., the religion itself is to blame. I know that this takes extra work, but it will help against being accused of using isolated events to denigrate a community and is imperative if we are to keep Islamic filth away from the West. This essay is a must read in regard to my note above. 3
Posted by Phil on October 06, 2005, 04:03 PM | # J Richards, Read the Quran. You’ll get all the “evidence” you need. 4
Posted by J Richards on October 07, 2005, 12:14 AM | # Phil, A vague reference to the scriptures is not enough. Your Moslem critics will demand specific citations. Hence, do some homework. Anyway, have you read the Quran? I tried reading it and after coming across pages after pages of abject nonsense, I had to stop. How anyone can be inspired by the inanity-laden Quran verses is beyond me. 5
Posted by Andrew on October 07, 2005, 03:57 AM | # There are some good articles and links here, how you make People in power read and take on board, buggered if I know. Seems a lot of Iranians have hot feet about Islam also. 6
Posted by Andrew on October 07, 2005, 06:41 AM | # http://www.homa.org/Details.asp?ContentID=2137352725&TOCID=2083225347 More suited for this post. 7
Posted by Phil on October 10, 2005, 05:13 PM | # <i>A vague reference to the scriptures is not enough. Your Moslem critics will demand specific citations. Hence, do some homework.
Let the clerics come. I shall deal with them. Anyway, have you read the Quran? I tried reading it and after coming across pages after pages of abject nonsense, I had to stop. How anyone can be inspired by the inanity-laden Quran verses is beyond me. If one cannot bear to read it, understanding Muslim motives is impossible. 8
Posted by nightstar on March 25, 2009, 10:26 AM | # Posted by J Richards on October 07, 2005, 04:14 AM | # “How anyone can be inspired by the inanity-laden Quran verses is beyond me” Ofcourse its beyond you, you Joker! What were you expecting? 9
Posted by nightstar on March 25, 2009, 10:42 AM | # Posted by J Richards on October 06, 2005, 10:58 AM | # “It is also necessary to cite Islamic literature to show that such criminal behavior cannot simply be blamed upon culture, i.e., the religion itself is to blame. I know that this takes extra work, but it will help against being accused of using isolated events to denigrate a community and is imperative if we are to keep Islamic filth away from the West” The very islamic filth that constitute western (islamic) values “White european in name, Islamic in values”. What a bunch of Jokers! Who needs to bring islamic filth to the west you bunch of Jokers are doing it for us and you dont even realize it! 10
Posted by Darknight on March 25, 2009, 02:24 PM | # Posted by J Richards on October 07, 2005, 04:14 AM | # “Anyway, have you read the Quran? I tried reading it and after coming across pages after pages of abject nonsense, I had to stop.” “How anyone can be inspired by the inanity-laden Quran verses is BEYOND me” Ofcourse its abject nonsense but then the book NEVER declares itself to be for you i.e someone who doesnt fulfill its criteria. Man you Joker didnt even come close i.e conclude the nonsense makes sense in other words showed the ability to understand even if what were understanding was nonsense for you but that would be a different story too Lol. The source DECLARES itself to be for: The Holy Qur’an > Surah Al-i-‘Imran> Verse 190 “Men of understanding” Now who are the “Men of understanding”? the Quran is making reference to. What is understanding? Wiktionary [home, info] Merriam-Webster’s Online Dictionary, 11th Edition [home, info] 2The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language [home, info] . The faculty by which one understands; intelligence. See synonyms at reason. Nonsense 1. utterances or actions that are meaningless or absurd. -The Wordsmyth English Dictionary-Thesaurus [home, info] The source is CLEARLY NOT making reference to the likes of Jokers like J Richards+ Gang when declaring “Men of Understanding” i.e men who “understand”. For a book of nonsense would not be aimed at “Men of understanding” it would be aimed at men who conclude nonsense “Men of nonsense” such as the likes of J Richards+Gang. The ability to understand requires reason, ability to rationalise, think clearly, use faculties to comprehend, objectivness etc… and a book that CLEARLY and CATERGORICALLY declares it is for a “Men of understanding” then when all such abilities are applied it is impossible to not understand it i.e to conclude it is nonsense and one who i.e Joker J Richards concludes it is “abject nonsense” proves the book is not for him so Jokers like J Richards+Gang need not bother wasting there time with a book that by its very declaration is not for them. Talk about Jokers loosing sense of reality. The people whom the book is declared for would conclude they understood (understanding) the book i.e it made sense. In other words to know if the book is for you or who are the people the book is for the correct conclusion such people would arrive to by virtue of the declaration of the source would be to conclude the book makes sense and they understand i.e “Men of understanding” and hence fulfilling the correct criteria the book asks for. So clearly Jokers J Richards+ Gang are not the “Men of Understanding” the book refers to. Now we can even say the muslims Allah is evil and could be making references to “Men of Understanding” to secretly viel the evil acts of the muslims and secretly Jokers J Richards+Gang are the “Men of Understanding” the source refers to but hey hang on wait a minute here something is still not quite right because even if this was the case this would still defy the statement the source declares it is for i.e “Men of Understanding” because Joker J Richards has concluded the book is “abject nonsense” in other words he has concluded his inability to “understand” the book and one who understood i.e “Men of understanding” would have concluded they understood the book it made sense i.e the NONSENSE MADE SENSE, Lol. Catch 22 anyone? Man you Jokers dont even need me to call you a joke you prove it yourselves. Stick to Harry Potter a book whoose source declares it is for you it would make sense. Understand? LOL! Next entry: Catholics for Islam Previous entry: Diving Into The Third World |
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Posted by Stuart Dickson on October 06, 2005, 06:48 AM | #
We are being culturally insensitive if we do not respect the time - honoured customs of those Muslims who so enrich our drab, faded Western societal values. In Islam revenge is a moral duty and it is not for the soon-to-be dhimmi White population to question Koranic precept.