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Camp of the Saints ReduxThe Telegraph reports on the difficulties Spain is encountering in securing her southern-most border:-
They are desperate people, we are always told, and they are only in search of a better life. But should it be “in search of a better death”, because the sane response of any normal nation to this invasion would be to issue their border guards with real bullets - not rubber ones – and an order to shoot to kill. Is this inconsistent with my constant preaching to follow legality in activism – something I need to make clear before some idiot brings it up? No, not all. I am NOT advocating illegality; what I am saying is that the Spanish government’s official sanction of lethal force here would be – or should be – justifiable defense of national integrity - and, hence, a perfectly “legal” military action. And if civil rights groups and charities like Médecins Sans Frontières get upset with the consequences, too bad! Let the whiners put up “migrants” in their own homes. Let them support these “desperate people” themselves. What is happening in Melilla is no less than a Camp of the Saints style invasion, and it should be met with the military force that the French in Raspail’s book were so signally unwilling to employ. Therefore, the Spanish government should (yes, I know they won’t, but I’m saying they should) order their people to shoot to kill any migrants that attempt this invasion. Likewise, illegal immigrants who try to enter Europe via boat are equivalent to a naval invasion, and should be met with whatever force a nation would normally use to repel such an invasion. Once the indisputable fact of such illegals being gunned or blown out of the water echoes through the world, the willingness of these migrants to “search for a better life” in Europe would be greatly diminished. I guarantee it. And then we have this grotesque article, also from the Telegraph:-
Knock, knock … hello … anyone home? Turkey is an Asian nation, full of Asiatic Muslims. It is not a European nation. That being so, why should it be in the EU? Why not Iraq? Why not India? Indeed, why not China? Is there any reason for China not to be in the EU? What? We are told in the case of Turkey that Idiots. And, gee, what happened to the French and Dutch votes against the EU constitution, which many believe was at least partially motivated by the Turkish threat? What Note as well that the elites are all upset about Croatia – “war criminals” and all that – but are so very eager to have Turkey, with that nations’ overwhelming support for human rights and western values (LOL!) in their Eurasian Union. But then, the All I want to know is why Turks are being put ahead of the Chinese. The EU must stop this anti-Mongoloid racism and embrace the grand diversity of a “Europe” that extends from the Atlantic to the Pacific.
Posted by JW Holliday on Wednesday, September 28, 2005 at 06:33 PM in Immigration Comments:2
Posted by JW Holliday on September 28, 2005, 06:48 PM | # And here is another potential member of the EU ... Mehmet Ali Agca This guy loking sort of like a cross between an Iraqi and a Japanese. 3
Posted by Lurker on September 28, 2005, 06:59 PM | # The EU is a blueprint for world government. Any country can join, ethnic background, religion and location unimportant. 4
Posted by Kubilai on September 28, 2005, 08:11 PM | # If I may be so bold in making a prediction, that being Turkey will never be allowed in the EU. One reason is that I do not think the EU has any degree of staying power in its future. The people of Europe WANT to be separate peoples despite being so cramped. They enjoy their cultural differences and many a wars have been fought over what now seems to be nonsensical reasons in view of what we are up against. I believe that the EU will eventually collapse under its own bureaucratic weight and the people will vote this into effect. In the countries where the elite will not listen and try to forge ahead, they will be met with significant civil unrest. There already is a ground swell in effect in many countries that are quite unhappy with the current unfolding of events. Despite Sweden’s utter stupidity in this matter, most native Swedes are extremely discontent with the relentless “asylum” seekers and in my opinion, this country is a powder keg just waiting for a match. To me, they are no different than the people of the former Soviet Union. All the people knew the system was a sham, yet in public they all voiced the “appropiate” accolades. Same goes with many average Swedes. If the EU does manage to move ahead in some semblance of “unity” and there does happen to be some sort of vote on Turkey, then all one has to do is count on that stupid little olive growing, feta cheese eating country next to Turkey to vote NOOO! And no they WILL vote. I find it humerous how the Greek government is “going along” with this charade when they have absolutely no intention of letting any Turk into Europe. They are simply waiting to see how the cards are played out and if anyone will stand up before they have to. Oh, as to the civil unrest mentioned above, God help the Greek elites if they plan on disregarding the voice of the Greek people on this matter. I was there this past summer and there is absolutely no way they will ever allow a “yes” vote. Ever. Which brings me to JW’s point of how the people’s opinion and wish is ignored if it isn’t the “right” one. This too can only last for so long. The brazenness of the globalists towards the will of the people is truly something to behold. I believe their fatal flaw is their miscalculation of how much the people will endure. We will see a major upheaval within our lifetimes. Europe for sure. Australia, probably non-violent because they are ahead of the curve, in my opinion. The US, I hate to even think about, it worries me so much. Canada is loooong gone. 5
Posted by Steve Edwards on September 28, 2005, 08:26 PM | # This “human wave” attack is almost certainly organised by the Moroccan government. It’s exactly how they took the West Sahara - don’t have a proper army, so they send their civilians, daring somebody to wipe them out. So wipe them out, then! www.exile.ru/2002-July-26/war_nerd.html 6
Posted by Lurker on September 28, 2005, 08:26 PM | # Quite agree, esp about Greece. I dont say the EU is the blueprint in some inevitible way but its what globalists fantasize about as they fiddle with themselves in bed at night. 7
Posted by Kubilai on September 28, 2005, 10:56 PM | # Wow, look what I found on Modern Tribalist. Gotta love those Danes…
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Posted by John S Bolton on September 29, 2005, 12:24 AM | # Plenty of countries have landmines on their borders, so how can it be called a violation of anyone’s rights, if they violate a security zone, and get blown up by governmentally placed landmines? It remains to be shown how someone can commit an act of aggression upon the borders of another country, by invading it thus, and yet be said to have rights there. This would imply an official duty to protect invaders, and one to betray the citizenry. Surely that would be a contradiction in terms? 9
Posted by Matra on September 29, 2005, 12:29 AM | # JW Holliday - the sane response of any normal nation to this invasion would be to issue their border guards with real bullets - not rubber ones – and an order to shoot to kill. Sadly, the response of the Spanish Socialist government (helped to power by the neocon war of distraction against Iraq) was to grant an amnesty earlier this year to some 800,000 illegals - mostly North African Muslims. Now they can travel anywhere in the EU. I recall in my late teens reading a book about life in Spain under Franco and, despite being under some left wing influence at the time, thinking that Franco didn’t seem all that bad. Today he looks like like A God! A half century from now the few Spaniards left will look back on the Franco years as a golden period in their nation’s history and his death the beginning of the end. Kubilai: Only 15 years ago Denmark was seen as a smaller version of super politically correct Sweden. Today Denmark has a reputation for being the most hardline anti-immigrant country in the West. Even in cosmopolitan Copenhagen there is considerable antipathy towards foreigners and, unlike in most European cities, they are not afraid to publicly express such feelings. Perhaps there is still hope for the West. Kubilai - Canada is loooong gone. Ah…but if Quebec separates or Alberta even threatens to do so then all bets are off. Another Liberal Party victory in the new year might be too much for enough Albertans to take that they might start to organise against Canadian federalism. The Prime Minister announced last week that Canada - already the world’s greatest importer of people per capita - plans a 35% increase in immigration, supposedly in order to fill gaps in certain industries such as IT (more Asians!). We all know that the real reason the Liberals want more Asian immigrants is that they are loyal to the Liberal Party. I’m hoping this becomes an issue during the upcoming election. Anyway, if you look at the actual numbers of Europeans versus non-Europeans in Canada we are in better shape than the US. Maybe not in Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver. But most of Canada’s huge landmass is as white as Russia. 10
Posted by Fred Scrooby on September 29, 2005, 12:34 AM | # “the Greek government is ‘going along’ with this charade when they have absolutely no intention of letting any Turk into Europe. [...] God help the Greek elites if they plan on disregarding the voice of the Greek people on this matter. I was there this past summer and there is absolutely no way they will ever allow a ‘yes’ vote. Ever. “ (—Kub) Thank God, thank God, thank God, thank God, thank God! Long live Greece! Long live Greece! Long live Greece! “We will see a major upheaval within our lifetimes. Europe for sure.” (—Kub) May GOD MAKE IT COME TRUE! And God bless you, Kub, for making this prediction! 12
Posted by Fred Scrooby on September 29, 2005, 08:53 AM | # Incidentally, on the subject of Turkey entering the E.U., there’s a group of Jewish neocons in this administration, Douglas Feith notable among them, who strongly support it for the reason, in my opinion, that they see it as beneficial for Israel’s interests in some way (though they don’t admit that), who apparently influence the U.S. government’s position in that direction (the heavily-neocon Bush administration supports Turkey’s entry, surprise!, surprise! ...). What you have, then, are certain powerful people in this administration influencing our policy in the direction of favoring an acceleration of the suicide of Europe, for the reason that it benefits Israel in some way—and these individuals are U.S. Jewish Zionist neocons (all of whom, literally to a man, also fanatically support forced race-replacement of U.S. whites through excessive incompatible immigration into the United States). 13
Posted by JW Holliday on September 29, 2005, 10:35 AM | # And today, we have this:- “… foreign ministers will hold emergency talks this weekend aimed at overcoming Austrian objections to starting entry talks with Turkey, after their envoys failed to reach agreement Thursday, diplomats said … All 25 EU nations have to agree on a negotiating mandate before talks can begin with Ankara … “Twenty-four EU countries could accept the text,” said the British official … “It’s not a question of drafting, but its a political issue,” said an EU diplomat. Austria is the most ardent opponent of Turkey’s membership arguing the country is too big and unready to join the EU. It has also linked the issue to Croatia’s EU entry bid. In Vienna, Austrian Chancellor Wolfgang Schuessel maintained his country’s tough line on Turkey. In an interview with two European newspapers, Schuessel said talks with Turkey should only start if separate membership talks with Croatia are also restarted. Negotiations with Zagreb were frozen until it meets EU demands it fully cooperate in handing over a top war crimes suspect to the U.N. war crimes tribunal. Austria says its people — and many others across the bloc — do not support full membership for Turkey and is demanding that Ankara be given the option of privileged partnership rather than full membership. Turkey has already rejected anything less than full membership talks. Question 1 : With a number of “center-right” parties being prominent in some EU nations, why is only Austria taking this hard-line? If one or two other nations would speak up - including those in which a majority of “the people” - oppose Turkish membership, then things would be different. Now is the time. But they are not doing it. Question 2 : Can nations presently in the EU decide to withdraw? Particularly if Turkey looks like it will join, but even just because the EU is so relentlessly anti-European, I think that a major emphasis on right-wing parties in EU nations should be at least talking about withdrawal. And the point: if it looks like Turkey is going to be given the “go ahead”, then our balkanization project must extend to the EU as well. We - and by we I mean pro-western nationalists throughout the world – must do what we can (legally, etc., as my disclaimer) to make the Turks feel as unwelcome as possible in the EU. The first sign that it looks like Turkey has the green light, we should relentlessly promote re-naming the EU as the EURASIAN Union. We need to get nationalists in Europe to adopt that - remember, ridicule is a powerful weapon, and since the idea of an Asian nation in the EU is absurd, why not constantly underscore that at every opportunity? We should constantly discuss the biological and cultural differences separating Turks from Europeans, as well as the history of conflict between these peoples. This needs to be a constant and concerted effort, and we need to establish lines of communication with European nationalists to promote this campaign. Any MR bloggers and/or readers who have “connections” in the European nationalist camp can do a big service in helping to coordinate a multi-faceted campaign to drive a wedge between Europe and the Turks, including the healthy use of ridicule. 14
Posted by Matra on September 29, 2005, 11:05 AM | # According to a recent poll only 10% of Austrians support Turkish membership while 80% say no to Turkey: Turkey? Hoo boy. Nobody’s very enthusiastic about Turkish membership, but at least they get a majority “yes” in Poland and Slovakia, and plurality “yes” votes—under 50%, but still higher than the “no”—in Spain, Sweden, Ireland, Latvia, Hungary, Portugal, Belgium, and Great Britain. (Yah, that’s right… 45% of Brits said “yes” to Turkish membership, while only 37% said no. 15
Posted by JW Holliday on September 29, 2005, 01:52 PM | # Here is Turkey’s leader, Gul. Pronounced ghoul? He is as European as this fellow - though, to be fair, there is also this person who is allegedly Euro-American. Personally, I find that unlikely. 16
Posted by Phil on September 29, 2005, 05:56 PM | # Dlg, Thanks for linking to that honour killing story. Unbelievable. Words fail me. 17
Posted by Pericles on September 29, 2005, 08:01 PM | # To Lurker, Reference your comments about the EU, this site http://www.crystalinks.com/bilderberg.html is likely to confirm your assertion.
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Posted by Kubilai on September 30, 2005, 05:51 PM | # Matra, you state…
I think you are correct on both points. The first, I am expecting within my lifetime. Quebec is the sure bet, though Alberta seems to be festering more and more. Quebec is also the more racially conscious province while Alberta yammers on about its “conservatism” that is always ignored and how they are annually raped by the federal government to pay for the goodies that entice all these third worlders to come here. An Alberta separation would not do much for whites in the long run though it would cause a screech to halt all this Liberal nonsense of “needing more immigrants”. This, indirectly, would be good though it would not bring about white separation etc. Quebec would be a more racially motivated issue, though again the white movement would go nowhere because Canadians are more muzzled than most European nations who are viewed as lacking any sort of free speech. The second point is absolutely correct. Outside the major metropolises, Canada is as white as the driven snow. Without white solidarity and a collective voice, that can and will change. Didn’t Martin (the prime minister for people unaware) state that they want to push these yet to arrive immigrants to other areas of Canada aside from the three big cities? Not only does this idiot want to increase immigration by 35% or so to approximately 350,000 legal immigrants per year, he wants them infiltrating the rest of the country too. Smart guy this Martin. 19
Posted by Kubilai on September 30, 2005, 05:57 PM | # Thanks Fred. May God bless you and all who are interested in preserving what is naturally right and just for our collective people. we should relentlessly promote re-naming the EU as the EURASIAN Union. - JW LOL That is a great idea. How much more clear can we make it than stating EURASIAN Union when anyone talks about Turkey being allowed entrance. It may shake some cobwebs loose and have them rethink their utter stupidity on this matter. 20
Posted by JB on October 03, 2005, 09:04 AM | # Kubilai: not true. A substancial proportion of small L liberals and “artists” are proud to say they adopt chinese kids and they show them as if they were some kind of rare breed of dogs - and nobody says anything. No one says they should make their own babies instead of importing them from China. In private conversations you can hear disapprovals but not in any public forums. “Look at me I’m so tolerant and inclusive that I refuse to procreate so I take other peoples’ children! I’m not one of those white ruralians, oh no”. There’s even one actor that I know of who’s supposedly a nationalist who adopted a chinese girl. The so-called nationalist movement is a big joke. Don’t bet on it to inspire any racial conscience. The nationalists of old (pre-1950) were more or less openly ethnicists but the newer ones are politically correct race-doesn’t-matter let’s-be-a-global-tolerant-village semi-marxists former hippies. It’s pitiful. Gilles Duceppe, the leader of the Bloc at Ottawa used to be a member of a Maoist cult when he was young. All members of the PQ who want to have a future in the party has to publicly denounce Jacques Parizeau for saying the 1995 referendum was lost due to the opposition of the financial world and the votes from non-french people living in Quebec (90 % of whom voted No). You can silence pretty much anyone using the word ‘racist’ - just like in most white countries. I used to be a nationalist before I became racially conscious: I realized the official voice of nationalism was a farce so I moved on. Real french nationalists would know non-european immigration is the biggest real threat to our survival. I’d be much more in favor of secession if I was sure the new country couldn’t be as bad as the province but with the PQ and the Liberal Party competing for the anti-racist champion image I don’t see how the secession of Quebec by itself would further even our interests or the interests of europeans peoples in North America - unless the scenario you outlined become true i.e. secession of the prairies provinces and perhaps the maritimes ones after Quebec leaves. Since all the damage done to Canada in terms of immigration and anti-white policies came from the federal government its destruction would de facto be a victory for whites. Seen from that angle voting Yes in a referendum on the secession of Qc would be a good idea. Next entry: Ann Coulter’s thoughts of the week Previous entry: By Their Deeds Ye Shall Know Them! |
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Posted by JW Holliday on September 28, 2005, 06:44 PM | #
Do we need this in Europe?
This culture, mentality and overall xtended phenotype is not only distinctly non-western, but is overtly anti-western as well, with Turkish women “acting German” meaning they are “whores” and deserving of being killed by their own brothers! And, what do these people think of native Germans I wonder?
While I realize that there are Turks who “look white”, some of whom may well be genetically European, a substantial fraction - the majority? - of the
population would be similar to Ms. Surucu, who looked to me sort of like a cross between an Egyptian quadroon/octoroon and a Mongolian.
I don’t understand why the Turks aren’t interested in being the leader of a pan-Turkic alliance and/or a leader in the Islamic world. Or, perhaps, such
ambitions are viewed as being entirely consistent with also being a member of the European Union? Why not have it all?
Stupid whitey won’t object - at least the elites won’t object and we know that in the “democratic” west, the will of the elites is all that matters.