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ENRPosted by Søren Renner on Friday, April 3, 2009 at 12:32 PM in Activism Comments:2
Posted by Guessedworker on April 03, 2009, 06:30 PM | # Their website is here:- This is what they think:- http://enresist.com/?page_id=5 It’s good to see. One thing the Establishment hasn’t got an answer for is the natural contempt in which the young hold it. I think the leaderless resistance thing is something that could catch on. Touch of romance. Touch of rebellion. Got to be a winner if the message can be got out into sixth form colleges and unis. I would guess that the present little crowd are busy trying to think of some stunt that will go viral and give them some oxygen, and the best of luck to them with that. 3
Posted by Spirit of 1776 on April 03, 2009, 08:19 PM | # I’m an old fogy at 44 years of age, so please have pity on me. What band performs the music in this video? Are there others like them? I want copies of their recordings and will be happy to support them with my cash payment. Joe of the Mountain and the Spirit of ‘76 5
Posted by Spirit of 1776 on April 03, 2009, 11:13 PM | # Thank you friend. They have a new fan. Actually both of them do, ENR and Kill Baby Kill. 6
Posted by Dasein on April 04, 2009, 06:24 AM | # “We won’t integrate” is a powerful slogan. It highlights the arrogance and genocidal nature of official immigration policy. And by ‘official policy’ I include the mainstream conservative pundits whose outraged demand is that immigrants integrate (i.e. miscegenation and mongrelization). I wish these ENR guys well. They might need to consider being less conspicuous at some point; drop the Thor Steinar garb and don some gloves. And I would substitute illegal immigration with 3rd-world immigration. The majority of the race-replacers are in there legally. 7
Posted by John on April 04, 2009, 06:25 AM | # Great video. Just one minor criticism. Their approach, with the “ban” on miscegenation merely expressed their disdain for it and will not change the minds of the target market (women) but evoke disdain in them. A much better approach would be to use the Establishment’s propaganda against the Establishment: express concern about the significantly higher AIDS rate in the African community. Make the graphic indistinguishable in language and tone from an ad from the Ad Council (or similar organization in GB). 8
Posted by Guessedworker on April 04, 2009, 06:48 AM | # Dasein: The majority of the race-replacers are in there legally. Law is a tool of the Establishment. If one is seeking to overthrow that Establishment, as any true revolutionary must, one is seeking to sweep away its oppressive laws too. No Third World immigration from 23rd June 1948 onward was ever acceptable to the English people. Our wishes were simply left out of the debate. Since the Establishment coerced the Third World on us, lied about its “benefits” and ruthlessly attacked dissenters it can claim no moral legitimacy for any part of the process of race-repacement. In any case, extracting morality from the attendant horrors of the MultiCult is impossible. Morality belongs with the dissenters. The laws will be theirs, too, one day, 9
Posted by Dasein on April 04, 2009, 07:33 AM | #
Peter Brimelow made this point in his talk at the Preserving Western Civilization meeting:
http://vdare.com/pb/090402_judges.htm Given the context of the meeting, I have to admire how Brimelow brought up the JQ:
I wonder how many dared within the confines of the meeting venue to discuss it further (at least honestly). But he planted a seed for many I’m sure. I have a lot of respect for him. 10
Posted by Mentious on April 05, 2009, 12:53 AM | # I was pleased to see this at first. But I find it very odd that one of the few “favorites” at this new YouTube account is a very degenerate song called “Jizz in My Pants.” They purport to stand for old England, English culture, and civilization yet mark as “favorite” such an uncivilized, obscene song?? This is the classic behavior of false fronts and trollish psy-op operators trying to create a degraded image of White racialists. They love to create “racialist” channels at YouTube, then place “favorites” and “friends” that give the impression of degeneracy. I would be wary of this site and so-called organization. They may be false, with a purpose, perhaps, to get information about dissidents who send in videos. If it’s genuine, they ought to clean up their moral view a bit and not link to music videos that are so patently Jewey, degenerate, and antithetical to traditional English culture. 11
Posted by John Hardon on April 05, 2009, 04:54 PM | # Good luck to these lads, the Nationalist movement needs new blood. The youth of today are perceived as drug taking, boozing thugs. Good to see that their are kids out their who actually uphold true Nationalist beliefs and ideals. So many kids believe the propaganda bull shit that they are force-fed at school. 12
Posted by Mentious on April 05, 2009, 06:07 PM | # It is also very instructive to see who this “ENRactivist” links to as a “friend” on his YouTube channel. You should always examine such accounts to see who they link to as “Favorited” videos and “Friends.” It often reveals false fronts and disinformation agents. This one has four “friends’ listed that fall into 2 categories: 1) Other “troll” accounts designed to make racialists/nationalists look bad. This is the classic behavior of anti-racist disinformation activists. One “Friend” at the ENRactivist channel is called “WhiteLadAgain.” He features a movie called “David Lane Was Not a Pedophile.” If you look at it, it is a typical smear tactic in which a “pedophile” accusation gets its profile raised (I had never heard of it), and then an inept, bumbling defense is given. In this case, the speaker is obviously meant to sound stupid, inarticulate, and lower class. The video takes care to include a telephone recording of an “incriminating” statement by Lane, over the phone, that most people have never heard of; next comes a lame and incoherent “defense.” Classic tactics! As another obvious giveaway, throughout the video is shown a photograph of two unidentified young women on a stairway, as if to drive home the image of David Lane as a pedophile, or the idea of him having an interest in such young women. Taking it further, I am not sure, but the two young women appear to be the two blonde sisters of the amateur singing duo “Prussian Blue.” They have no connection to Lane as far as I am aware. But they ARE a favorite image for anti-racists etc. to raise, because they were well-besmirched by the media as “neo-nazis” etc. Further, there have been accusations of OTHER racialist or WN figures having “pedophilic” interest in these two sisters. I believe that one of these was the disgraced Kevin Strom. So if this photo is indeed of the two sisters, the intent is obviously to raise more “pedophile” ideas connected to a broader array of WN/racialists. So the doltish-voiced “WhiteLadAgain” is clearly a troll account intended to make nationalists and racialists look unattractive. Another video in “WhiteLadAgain” is called “A Few Good Books I Got Recently” and the selection of books shown—very crude, comic-book style books—has a clear intent. As a final note, the 2nd video in the ENRactivist account, the only other video, is called the “Activist’s Stash.” It is prescribing a rather extensive collection of paraphenalia that kids should collect to do this activism. It seems to be a ruse to get “nationalist” kids (etc.) to be carrying specific incriminating evidence which could, perhaps, easily convict them in the instance of breaking any laws. 13
Posted by Mentious on April 05, 2009, 06:38 PM | # CORRECTION and ADDENDUM: Now as I think about it, there may have been a connection between the two “Prussian Blue” girls, possibly with their mother a David Lane fan. In fact, these two girls may have been the object of comments by David Lane. That would further support my intention, because the movie-maker is nicely presenting suggestions of a “pedophile” scenario for Lane, presenting the very “objects” of his alleged lust, and helpfully filling in all parts of a “story.” I would also note that the “defender” of Lane actually raises no substantive point in his defense. One more note: ENRactivist had one more video marked as a Favorite which was a cartoon featuring, seemingly, two ‘lower class U.K. Whites.” They were having a conversation in which the two characters said the “F” word just about every 4th word. These are not the kinds of images that are used by sincere racialists, or nationalists, who want to raise the dignity or legitimacy of their nation or people. Just the very opposite! I made a comment on that video saying “This account is an obvious false front intended to make nationalists look unattractive.” Onto them! Both the comment, and the video, were then immediately deleted. 14
Posted by John on April 06, 2009, 03:03 AM | # Is this intentional: ENRac 15
Posted by Fred Scrooby on April 06, 2009, 10:05 AM | # Ian Jobling has posted a video on YouTube advertizing his website: http://whiteamerica.us/index.php/blog/blog/white_america_video_now_on_youtube/ I find it excellent. I wouldn’t have put in the bit about “whites fighting injustice around the world” because so-called “fighting injustice around the world” is a big part of what got us into the mess we’re in (often we were fighting justice and inflicting injustice), and “injustice around the world” isn’t any of our business. Our business is ourselves, no one else. Jobling is part-neocon, which is why he thinks like that. He’s a “race-realist” neocon. (But no matter, he’s on the right side on race-replacement, which is all that counts at this point.) 16
Posted by SM on April 06, 2009, 10:06 AM | # Dirty words are not a problem. Neither is teen girl en-harem-ing. They might be a ‘false front’—I know nothing about them. But denouncing them because of teen word use is silly. Grow up Anglo-World conservatives! Your fuddy duddy-ism and christianity-, capitalism- and out- chivalry-ing- the- left- movement has failed for hundreds of years: give it a rest. The pointing to david lane’s pedo issue might be a dark political trick by so called antiFa (euro liberals). Again I don’t know—I haven’t gone to the youtube page and I don’t know who david lane is (note: I have heard of “Prussian Blue” race rock chick duo). But I say again teen girl en-harem-ing—along with female control in general—which will lead to sexual use of the creature—is not bad. Not accepting that has led to the unraveling of your culture. 17
Posted by SM on April 06, 2009, 10:54 AM | # Um my post above is to Mentious’ (April 05, 2009, 10:07 PM etc) who was concerned about the vulgarity at the ENR site page. 18
Posted by Mentious on April 06, 2009, 03:18 PM | # “Neither is teen girl en-harem-ing.” I have no idea what the hell you are talking about. “En-hareming”?) Apparently, the “whiteness” you are trying to preserve is some kind of non-culture newly pioneered by MTV. But my view is that Whites should be trying to save everything about themselves, especially the things that made them great, and their moral order was the most significant among these things. It was moral degeneration that put Whites in decline in the first place. Anti-White Jews know this, and it’s one of the reasons they try to present nationalists as morally decadent. (“En-hareming”???) 19
Posted by SM on April 06, 2009, 04:35 PM | #
You need learnin then.
Your fuddy duddy-ism and christianity-, capitalism- and out- chivalry-ing- the- left- movement has failed for hundreds of years: give it a rest. ———- White culture has flaws. Fatal ones. We are in this mess because of them. Typically conservatives can’t get this what with your inborn tendency to see cosmic pattern/mandate where there is none. Let go that which does not work.
———- Also some things might have just sucked—crucial workings or not. These things have to be looked at too. For example—and this is very deep (and I’m not going to lay it all out)—over indulged females (and thus unsure males) might be the reason we have the western industrial success story. ...As said, even if something is crucial it might suck enough to demand curtailing regardless; new things might have to be created which have/do the positives minus the negatives (sort of like purposefully inventing the metric system from the customary measure system that willy-nilly developed accidentally over time. Lastly, things have changed, regardless of who did it or how they got away with it. High IQ men can ...dissect Beethovenian motif development on `the moon. But first we need to get there. ————- Eg my Third Reich apologetics is baggage. I jettison it all the time in favor of crafting understanding (and co-opt-ing `THEM—within reason). [And don’t respond “what is co-opt-ing??”. see at end*]
This moral code—especially regarding females—is a root fatal flaw. And number two this white moral code is ever changing but it happens on a slow motion scale that conservatives can’t see—so they just embrace the previous generation’s revolutionary liberalism as the latest conservative moral absolute rally standard. (Eg we denounce islam now cause they aint got enough 1970s immigration and divorce. ...Ah back in the 70s when all was right and the politicians had it all figured out…) It was totally normal to discipline and marry off young girls up until one or two generations ago. Sex happens. Mind your own business. If find it fascinating that we can’t advocate testing (for intelligence etc) and sterilization or can’t firmly—with no equivocation—advocate stopping through whatever means necessary single fem parent and >sextuplet breeding, cause that would be “crude”, “barbaric” and un-Jefferson-ianly* oppressive. But we can try to stop blowjobs and doggystyle… [see at end*]
Your theory of moral degeneracy and ‘false front’ are not the same thing. Teenage boys going “[fuck you and shit]” isn’t causing people to marginalize the right; and it is not evidence in itself of a false front. Your cosmic absolutes and paranoia nonsense (‘jews did 9/11’) is what causes conservatives to be ever on the wane time immemorial. As I implied above. I’d trade all the ‘Grets Gen’ and Boomers on the planet for half the teenage males.
Bullshit. Ass. *...This word game you all play with your betters, wherein you pretend you don’t get simple shit as tactic, is ridiculous. You are very mediocre at jew sophistry tricks. 20
Posted by Wandrin on April 06, 2009, 04:52 PM | # @Mentious
I think they stand for survival. 21
Posted by Mentious on April 06, 2009, 05:23 PM | # Ah. I see. Now if a White is not an MTV moral degenerate, he’s a “fuddy duddy.” 22
Posted by Captainchaos on April 06, 2009, 05:34 PM | # SM, if you actually tried to implement your schemes in the presence of real Nazis they would put you up against the wall. You provide no incite that a quick Wiki search by a reasonably intelligent person couldn’t glean within minutes. All you offer is unhinged sadism. You are a troll, are you a Jew? (To all delicate souls, please pardon my “paranoia.” LOL!) 23
Posted by SM on April 06, 2009, 05:54 PM | #
Cpn gayass, You’re a retard. Where-ever, even once, is this unhinged “sadism”. This is especially absurd when one factors in that a quick perusing of cpn gayass’ posting history would expose some pretty low ball Plebeian thuggery on his part, I’m sure. Admit it cpn gayass: you’re an idiot and you’re trying to protect the interests of idiots (and you use the very jewish tactic of deceptive hyperbolic demagoguery which attempts to marginalize those who are not part of your interests). You’re a perfect american… 24
Posted by Mentious on April 06, 2009, 06:13 PM | # I’ve been watching anti-racist psy-ops for a long time. The ENR is clearly one of those. The presence of all the “girl pics”—“honey pots”—at the ENR site is one more transparent psychological ploy to attract the more gullible young men to a “goy pen.” Now as I hear this fellow natter about “en-hareming,” as though it represents White culture and values, or any kind of sustainable approach to human relationships, you really have to wonder what’s going on. The more we abandoned our fathers’ values over time, the weaker the White peoples became. They had wife, marriage, and family. Not “harems.” Those who advocate throwing out every cultural and moral value our fathers held to—during their glory days—in favor of an MTV anti-culture, are either trolls or the most errant among us. 25
Posted by Wandrin on April 06, 2009, 06:21 PM | #
I’m not arguing against that. I just think you’re expecting a bit much of a small group of autonomous youngsters. It’s a miracle that they’re free of the matrix at all given the overwhelming weight of the multi-cult in the media and education. I don’t think they’re a false front. 26
Posted by Mentious on April 06, 2009, 06:47 PM | # I was delighted to see the video originally, and I was even inspired to go out and do some street-dissidence myself. However, one look at the “Friends” and “Favorites” shows what this really is. Which is unfortunate. 27
Posted by SM on April 06, 2009, 06:48 PM | #
You believe MTV advocates enhareming the females? You’re an idiot. You’re why the white male is doomed. More correctly, the inherent altruism/cowardice (whatever one should call it) of males like me in the past prevented us from culling back these moron strains; that reality became an economy where breeding for idiot was actually profitable (serfdom). In the last few centuries it has hit a critical mass. And then everything shot to shit… The white male is doomed. So goeth the dodo… ——-
What’s going on is you are profoundly stupid for genetic reasons; and paranoid, lacking perspicacity. Euros were in quasi monogamistic dynamic for about 1000 years (plenty of infidelity snowballing along with more and more female leverage). It uniquely led to feminism and race replacement. Not to mention rampant anti intelligence dysgenics. Your are not smart enough to grapple with this. “So goeth the dodo.”
Or genius visionaries who see the solution to the unique, unheard of problems that our “father’s values” created for their sons… 28
Posted by SM on April 06, 2009, 07:01 PM | # Also I just went to their YOU TUBE site. I didn’t see this pys op problem. The “related vidoes” at right are auto-generated, I believe. And clicking the ENR name goes to their page; and then going to their “friends” page shows nothing obviously odd. Enlighten me: other than the youth culture which you are pathologically miffed at, what was out of whack? (And btw, how should the teen/20s males comport themselves so as to not be bad to you?) 29
Posted by Young Activist on April 06, 2009, 07:18 PM | # I can see exactly where some of the above posters are coming from. I dont know what “ENRactivist” had in mind when he saved said videos, there may of course be a genuine and justified reason for such actions or there may not. Id like to think there is a genuine reason otherwise Id suppose it could only be put down to a vulgar sense of humour (a sense of humour that I can assure you that myself and other autonomous activists certainly dont share). It could also be because the said user also found the videos appauling and saved them for the purpose of using them as a later point of reference. 30
Posted by Captainchaos on April 06, 2009, 07:38 PM | # Shit Monger, get a clue. I lay low, egg them on, and they self-destruct. Just as you are doing now. How do you think I managed to get the Jew Diamud to drop his mask? 31
Posted by q on April 06, 2009, 07:46 PM | # “Jobling is part-neocon ... “ Maybe so, but I’m in favor of any plan of action that thwarts the race-replacement agenda. 32
Posted by Wandrin on April 06, 2009, 07:56 PM | #
Feminism is part of cultural marxism - the aim is to drive a wedge between the different segments of the traditional culture. Divide and rule. If anti-feminism becomes anti-female then the tactic works just as well as feminism alone. 33
Posted by SM on April 06, 2009, 08:07 PM | #
You’re a dope. Hurry up and go lay low. 34
Posted by q on April 06, 2009, 08:11 PM | # Feminism can only survive in a highly evolved civilisation. Once the undeveloping West devolves into a third world status, all those crazy white bitches that belong to the NOW (National Organization of Women), etc., will cease to exist. Burkas for all! LOL! 35
Posted by SM on April 06, 2009, 08:22 PM | #
You are denying the preface problem that leads to being “anti female”. Ie if the females are already anti male up to and including poisoning their own sons (which is what they are figuratively doing—though their selfishness pure and simple), then the males fighting back can’t be seen as the problem. You racialist types—just like conservatives in general—have some kind of pathological refusal to see females clearly. It is all part of your “culture” and it is—as you are—doomed. ———— Again you all—as part of this trip you’re on—have a pathologic need to excuse females as a displa to your enemies and dance for your ever indulged females. Considering that elements of this site grapple with outside looking in evolution-based premii, you all—_like Most_—have a blind spot when it comes to your instincts and impulses regarding females. 36
Posted by Mentious on April 06, 2009, 08:35 PM | #
Enlighten me: Your “youth culture” consists of a pathological “en-hareming”? Does that lead to the raising of good, intelligent, and competent children? Or is it just something you learned off MTV. Again, the favorites (now changed), and the “Friends” and the content there were out of whack. You have to approve “Friends.” It could alse be several ghost accounts approving each other, linking to each other, etc. 37
Posted by Captainchaos on April 06, 2009, 08:51 PM | # SM, you rock stupid piece of excrement. Have you never heard of high-investment child rearing, which runs a bit askance of your enhareming scheme, no? And just which segment of the population do you suppose will be implementing your brutal measures to a shining eugenic tomorrow? That’s right, the less-than-optimal quartiles of the gene pool. Should they lock themselves up in the concentration camps? If not, will there be enough top two percenters to get the job done; and if not by force, maybe they can trick the hapless bell curve left-enders to go behind the barbed-wire by throwing some Larry the Cable Guy comedy CDs in? “Get er done!” LOL! Dumb shit. 38
Posted by SM on April 06, 2009, 09:08 PM | #
Well it does for the Mormons… ———-
Again, MTV doesn’t advocate en hareming females. (MTV is liberal.) So you don’t even know what you’re demagogue-ing about. (And I am 40 something. Ie it’s not my youth culture.)
Yeah well now the whole thing sounds fishy. I don’t know. (You make me as paranoid as the rest of you.) There will be moles in any conservative group (ie so beware); it’s just that people like you can’t be taken at face value when you point at “suspects” because of your lack of reasoning power. (Again I don’t know.) I was simply saying that a youth group’s cursing or ‘vulgar music’ was not the end of the world. `That it is failed conservatism which thinks that some crassness is the salient part of a group. (Hell if it wasn’t for ‘crass music’, Northern Europe wouldn’t even have a world known culture anymore. LOL. [Can I get ‘hail Satan’ from the choir 39
Posted by SM on April 06, 2009, 09:34 PM | #
Yes I have heard of “Male Parent Investment [‘MPI’]” actually. And it is disingenuous of you types to tactically rhetorically use that, when you all basically advocate a macho failed ‘maternal parent is solely relevant’ system. (You are a dishonest and transparent prick, you know that?) I don’t advocate more than one or two babies per man per lifetime. So the reason I advocate enhareming teen gulls (along with other tactics)—and I touched on this in the above post—is to de levearge the female and create unburdened access to sex (and etc psych penumbra comforts) for the males: this will start to unravel this huge problem that chivalry created (which is the root problem under setting all the others we grapple with now). I don’t advocate the harem for breeding per se. So making too many kids—especially ill raised ones—is not what I meant. As for fathers’ investment, I would compel and impose more male parenting at the post-infant nurture level (not just economic level). All males of course would not pass muster and therefore would not be breed able.
“brutal measures” Again with this fantastical strawman, you simpleton disingenuous thug.
Better than this piss bucket you call a country. And don’t bother denying it is your country by inventing some nonsense that the jews did it. They use useful idiots. Dem idiots there, would be yous. (Of course you personally protect yourself from being used by liberalism by being so blockheaded nothing at all gets into your tiny skull.)
I didn’t say it would be easy… 40
Posted by SM on April 06, 2009, 10:13 PM | #
Correct. Good job q. Do you have solution outline for how man can stay en-eased by civilization and yet not fall victim to the snowballing female leverage thing? I was thinking small populations that don’t make too many sons—preventing pecking orders, where each father passes on all to an only son—so as to prevent the internal social coup d’eta tween the males that leads to female leverage. Burkas for all! LOL! 41
Posted by Captainchaos on April 06, 2009, 10:20 PM | # “And don’t bother denying it is your country by inventing some nonsense that the jews did it.” LOL! See? I told you you’d crack. Shithead. 42
Posted by SMite on April 06, 2009, 10:21 PM | # You really are talking way over the head of someone like Captainchaos, SM. He’s the “bully” on every WN site, and probably every political forum, on the net: dogmatic, vulgar, snotty, egomaniacal. Intelligent up to a point, disastrous & violent when he sees someone exercising a viewpoint outside of his hostile little corner. And at that point most WNs will become nasty sovieteers frantically finding Jews and other “saboteurs”. But I like your ideas — you see farther and deeper than they. 43
Posted by SMite on April 06, 2009, 10:26 PM | # Note CC’s new tactic of posing as a “cracker” of “crypto” personalities here, affording him the abbreviated pleasure of posing triumphantly over his own “strawmen” (i.e. people he & Scrooby need to believe are Jews to safely ignore viewpoints other than their own vicious dogmatism). Guys like CC & VNN’s “Socrates” — vain little shits. 44
Posted by Captainchaos on April 06, 2009, 10:59 PM | # Uh, let’s get the run-down straight. Diamed advocated MIXING THE WHITE RACE OUT OF EXISTENCE. And SM advocates EXTERMINATING LOW IQ WHITES IN DEATH CAMPS - using a garbled version of Simon Sheppard’s theories as a rationalization I can only presume. And it’s me who’s off the reservation? If you say so. As for microcommunities: I see no reason to think that I am misapprehending the basic ‘hydraulics’ of the matter. Numbers are key, motivation for said numbers is key. What gets it all flowing? 45
Posted by SM on April 06, 2009, 11:27 PM | #
Actually I advocate getting rid of 120 IQ media and poli bureaucrat types, leaving the 100 IQs to do work (they can eventually be weened out by techno). (The great middle is the coup d’eta class that constantly instigates against the betters—they historically use every infuriating dirty trick there is; they rallying up the low to oust the highest classes. (It is called the ‘alpha beta gamma principle’.) This ‘getting rid thing’ would apply to non whites too. And for _anti_ Balkanization reasons (protecting children from ugly duckling syndromes, civil war etc), no migration AND peaceable repatriation. (Maintained until if and when _real_ solutions to the human condition -migration and -marginalization problem could be solved.) ———— And the dumb not being purged is why Euro man is in the chaotic stymied malaise he is in now. [sad but true.] ———- ...But who gets access to this and what the templates for tampering will be is all very very problematic (both internally to a race and between the races; ie do we make the blacks as smart as whites if they are still holding a grudge against whites?... etc…) 46
Posted by SM on April 06, 2009, 11:29 PM | # Oh: And I’ll have you know that any garbled theories are my own!... 47
Posted by Mentious on April 06, 2009, 11:45 PM | #
Random sex does not work. It’s been tried. Moral order works, and make Whites the dominant culture on the face of the earth for centuries. Picking up random women at bars and taking them home. (The site’s original “favorite,” a song called “Jizz on My Pants,” about that very thing.) Women don’t become mothers this way. Fathers don’t develop this way. Children don’t get raised that way. What it does is create abortion; one’s progeny in a dumpster. Clearly, that doesn’t work. You argue on behalf of decadence, and not White survival by a longshot. 48
Posted by Mentious on April 06, 2009, 11:51 PM | #
Actually, it was conservatism that worked and liberalism/degeneracy that failed. It’s not a matter of “crassness” but the question of what moral vision the youth are given. The moral vision and ethical worldview is always the “salient” aspect of a group; not whether they use wallpaper paste, as contrasted to mud paste, to adhere posters to tunnel walls. Again, when we see the lowest moral vision presented in “nationalist” or “racialist” account it’s very often—and this is not speculative but factual—a troll account intended to discredit same. 49
Posted by Frank on April 07, 2009, 12:07 AM | # SM, you don’t think altering people will create a moral crisis where man loses his value? I prefer sterilisation because it leaves man with value as descended from Creation. Similarly, the myth of origin of whites would be preserved - such a myth is not necessarily at odds with Christianity since racial differences are clearly very deep and so over time have developed unique heritages. If altering man, then why preserve white genetic heritage at all? Why not mix and then alter a better super race? 50
Posted by Frank on April 07, 2009, 12:15 AM | # The Darwin Inheritance by Michael Walker (The Scorpion archive). Richard Lynn on progressive eugenics (TOQ archive). These people would appear the enemy of every type of nationalist, white nationalist included. 51
Posted by Desmond Jones on April 07, 2009, 12:39 AM | #
Why? Lynn outlines how they eugenic practices you appear to desire are well underway.
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Posted by Big Silver on April 07, 2009, 12:45 AM | # SM, “Evolution-based premii [sic]? “Coup d’eta”[sic]? Blogs like this sure bring out the sciolists. Frank, These people would appear the enemy of every type of nationalist, white nationalist included. Michael Walker and Richard Lynn are the enemies of WN. Hang around WN boards long enough and you’ll hear it all I guess. Re eugenics, it’s pretty straightforward. You can have your racial group and territory and you entrust its future to free breeders, or you can try to influence matters in a positive direction. The trick to winning co-operation is for society (institutions initially, individuals later) to demonstrate sufficient respect for and appreciation of those whose genes it would prefer to see not passed on. (The same goes for multiracial societies, for that matter.) Mentious, Actually, it was conservatism that worked and liberalism/degeneracy that failed. What is your proposal for getting from the present to the preferred? Pragmatically, doesn’t it make sense to concede to a presumably presently obstructionist “liberalism” (whatever your conception of it) as much required to get it on board? 53
Posted by Desmond jones on April 07, 2009, 01:09 AM | #
How do you know that “you” (as in those that serve your interest) will influence versus the free breeders with money who chose their designer baby and secondly, how do you know it will be a positive direction? 54
Posted by Frank on April 07, 2009, 01:16 AM | #
You’ve just read transhumanist ideas and think everyone who hasn’t heard these ideas or doesn’t agree with you is somehow stupid… Whether you’re truly 40 or not, you have the maturity level of a teenager. If you cut the ego tripping out, an actual debate might ensue. I’m with the Captain, you smell mongrel if not Jewish. That doesn’t rule out your ideas… but it does make it understandable why you’d find no value in what everyone else here values: European heritage. I say that fully aware that likely no one here agrees with me in full on what’s worth preserving and restoring, but the reality is you don’t value these things. It’s understandable though that a wog, especially a mongrel wog, wouldn’t value what those of noble birth would. 55
Posted by Frank on April 07, 2009, 01:21 AM | # Big Silver, read those two articles and then see what you think. I’m well aware of the reputations of both the men and the publications they wrote for. It’s odd how transhumanists, the ultimate enemy of white nationalists, hang out at WN sites and orgs. Some day WN need to wake up and read what their buddies are proposing: namely the destruction of their genetic heritage.
I’m all for a degree of eugenics, but an obvious line needs be drawn. Robot brains and new species of superhumans are not desirable. 56
Posted by Frank on April 07, 2009, 03:52 AM | # My apologies to Michael Walker. I was thinking of another piece that mentioned “cyber brains” found at a white nationalist journal. That article that I was seeking has disappeared from the Internet… I’ve lost my smoking gun. Ironically, Mr. Walker’s piece is an extraordinary response to SM’s transhumanism since for the most part this is not a religious crowd, and I now heartily encourage all here to read it… Again my apologies to Mr. Walker. It’s been over a year if not longer since I’ve read his article, and I’m merely a weekend activist with limited time. —- I might have lost my smoking gun and unjustly tarred Mr. Walker’s reputation, but Lynn’s quote here is worth repeating:
In response Mr. Walker:
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Posted by Big Silver on April 07, 2009, 03:54 AM | #
I’m not really sure I understand the first part of your question. If it helps, I don’t see the prevention of “free breeding” as worthwhile, desirable or possible. The hope is only to stimulate a eugenic trend. As for the second part, I guess I don’t—but it’s a reasonable assumption isn’t it?
I read them and I don’t see it. Broadly, if your problem is they corrupt your vision of what a perfect WN society would look like I suggest you get used to operating in a theater of indeterminacy, because apart from critiques of present society WNs appear to agree on very little else. 58
Posted by Frank on April 07, 2009, 04:17 AM | #
Well, Mr. Lynn speaks on transhumanism, which is not white nationalism. If I wish to preserve a forest, I don’t pave over it. That would be destroying the forest. Please see the correction regarding Mr. Walker. I’m thoroughly embarrassed by this mistake of mine. —- Prometheism is a transhumanist site someone recently linked me to btw. 59
Posted by Mentious on April 07, 2009, 05:00 AM | # What is your proposal for getting from the present to the preferred? Truth and high values are always pragmatic. make sense to concede to a presumably presently obstructionist “liberalism” Conceding is not the name of the game here, and no need to concede the entire moral territory, otherwise there is really nothing gained. We are not trying to save some mere genetic specimens with the consciousness of barnyard animals, but our sons and daughters, with our more critical life-sustaining values intact. Again, just do our jobs as elders and transmit values to young people, and be supportive to them in developing functional families. Less T.V. and mass media into their heads; more feedback from the older generation. That’s how mujahadeen in Afghanistan repel empires. Simple. Those kids have already removed their errant trash videos upon my (and perhaps others’) complaints. See how that works? Kids crave guidance from their elders. You didn’t know that. 60
Posted by SM on April 07, 2009, 08:23 AM | #
Yeah and this is a contest to me how? (You know what strawman is right?) Indulged females—made possible by keeping alive too many low males [and their endless envy based coup which demands destruction of the previous order] and a failed society built by conservative doltishness—causes promiscuity; or as social scientists [liberals] call it “serial monogamy”. You believe those teenage males are causing promiscuity? You believe if they stop saying ‘fuck’ that the females become loving respectful wives who don’t poison their children. (You’re a dolt—like all americans I have met. Go preserve that too.) You understand ZERO of how society works—yours or any others. (Most are so.)
Abortion is good if it gets the right children. I would prefer sterilization. But people—being dolts congenitally—always prefer the wasteful way, the hard way.
No I argue for solutions that prevent these kinds of liberal [coup based] slippery fish snowballs (female leverage, ‘promiscuity’ etc) from happening. I have no intention of betting on a losing horse (“conservative values”) just because god whispered I should always bet for horses that have number ‘3’s on their saddles or because I have simply through habit always done it. [I know you americans like your ponies.]
Then how come liberalism took over—with the conservatives doing all the work and fighting to make that substantial world shattering coup possible?...
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Posted by SM on April 07, 2009, 08:42 AM | #
What a loaded question. What moral crisis. Compared to what? The moral crisis we have now? What “values”? How will man be altered to lose those values? How did I say any of that?
I posted what I did as a tactical outline; not cause I’m simply pushing for this or that agenda. ‘Cause I am solution based not dogma based. What I posted: Once there is genetic techno, the ‘sterilizing’ thing won’t be necessary, for people could just be ‘tampered’ into the ‘right’ types. ...But who gets access to this and what the templates for tampering will be is all very very problematic (both internally to a race and between the races; ie do we make the blacks as smart as whites if they are still holding a grudge against whites?… etc…) ))))))))))))) The ability to simply sterilize the ‘undesirable types’ probably died 60 years ago—thanks to american “morality” and “values”. But your final question there is a good one. It might be the crux of solutions now; It might be the last-chance-option the neo cortex of the best white males is left with (thanks to your doltish and pigheaded “values”). 62
Posted by SM on April 07, 2009, 08:54 AM | #
What don’t you get about that? And don’t bother saying all of it. I’m loose with the speak. Yeah so? ............ “Coup d’eta” is the main feature of upper group primate social sexual dynamic. It is the reason for human political reality too. Man is on a crazy train snowball of coup d’etas: democracy and then modern liberalism being the two most recent blips. (This crazy train is the reason for all our intellectual and technological success too.) Nipping that coup snowball in the bud undercuts liberalism’s impetus forever. Coup d’eta’s main motivation is sexual stuff (self esteem, status from childhood, sibling rivalry, pecking order etc). 63
Posted by SM on April 07, 2009, 08:56 AM | #
No the salient feature is whether it works or not. They “ENR” are ostensibly trying to get a message out in group based, popularity-contest based species and they did not create this world’s values.
You don’t need trolls or false fronts to discredit your movement. Your internet connection will take care of that nicely. 64
Posted by SM on April 07, 2009, 09:15 AM | #
I never read other people’s stuff. Ever. Number two: everyone is stupid.
Your ding-a-ling friends started it. Number two: Yes I have bad disposition generally. Man deserves it. Debate is overrated.
Aw; how sweet. Have you set a date?
Most of ‘European heritage’ failed. Number two: I bet I’m way more European on some given genetic-meter-test than you. When the racist frenology types do my “chart” they say “Celt Nord with vesgtial cromagnid” and then parade me around as the living continuation of Vikings. Mediocre five foot ten brunettes are not actually Europeans (which odds are, you’re one of). They are the mongrels who have infected the continent in the last few millenia… (Another reason that there is little worth preserving in the “heritage”; it’s already a bastard hiding in myth-shell.)
Most of European heritage failed.
Anybody victimized by your ‘god forsaken’ society is going to ignore its heralded accomplishments in favor of solutions/vengeance. The single female parent got me good. It is synonymous with your culture; unique to it; it is not some “other” thing. (And guinea migration dinged me too, being as they mature around 10 years old.) When men like me stop caring about cart pulling people like you, there is no more “European Culture”. FYI. 65
Posted by SM on April 07, 2009, 09:19 AM | #
Some of that is inevitable. It is just a question of who is going to control that charging stagecoach-horse. 66
Posted by SM on April 07, 2009, 09:23 AM | #
I know but it is question of tactics now. 67
Posted by SM on April 07, 2009, 09:48 AM | #
Tactically he meant. There is nothing gained if you don’t win.
This “barnyard” thing. Now I know you’re dumb and old. But I’ve already explained that you types do go to where liberals drag you—then you embrace that new place with cosmic absolute morality nonsense. Indeed this is the secret of liberal success over the centuries, FYI: they can always count on your bigotry to embrace with prejudice what ever they create for you—if they can just hold you there long enough. It is not ‘barnyard’ to discipline and en harem the the teen females; or rather if it is, then it was too for Europeans up until very recently. If we believe we have been raised up to “higher consciousness” now that we don’t do it, it was liberalism that brought us up to this place. You do understand that right? And this notion that your head in hole conformity is “higher consciousness” is laughable to say the least.
Oh it’s a little passed that now. Where do you live? They still don’t have an antenna there yet?
Not so simple actually. They prevent internal coup (through however they do it!); which in turn keeps the females un leveraged; which in turn keeps the culture primitive and rustic; which in turn negates the Western tactic of destroying tech-infrastructure as the way to break will. Primitives are not afraid of the lights going out and therefore the West has a tough time winning. They remain primitive cause older brother keeps winning the fight again younger brother’s tantrum = no enlightenment… Barnyard consciousness. Do you see the paradox that confront us too as we grapple with enlightenment and social change? =========
Yes and now I find the whole thing creepy. And would girls—who have the real power to effect social “values” change—have listened to you?... 69
Posted by Young Activist on April 07, 2009, 02:57 PM | # I find it strange that a statement of opinion from an actual ENR activist has been ignored/disregarded so Ill re-post my earlier comment and hope that you’ll find that it resolves a few issues. “I can see exactly where some of the above posters are coming from. I dont know what “ENRactivist” had in mind when he saved said videos, there may of course be a genuine and justified reason for such actions or there may not. Id like to think there is a genuine reason otherwise Id suppose it could only be put down to a vulgar sense of humour (a sense of humour that I can assure you that myself and other autonomous activists certainly dont share). It could also be because the said user also found the videos appauling and saved them for the purpose of using them as a later point of reference. Ps, simple issues such as favouriting unfavourable youtube videos isnt a matter of eugenics, race or evolution. Once again, I hope the above statement can help clear a few things up and allow people to rest assured that we are a genuine group of young English activists and of course, constructive critisism and advice is much appreciated. 70
Posted by SM on April 07, 2009, 03:20 PM | # Yeah I know. ...Um, I sorta hijacked the thread. ————- 71
Posted by Mentious on April 07, 2009, 03:31 PM | #
Ah, I see. Now it comes out. (I was wondering why you started going off about harems in the first place, as nobody brought up the subject.) I see that you were just trying to give suggestions to the youngsters. The very instinct to conserve nationhood, conserve peoples, and conserve the White race is clearly a Conservative impulse. Liberalism/leftism is, by contrast, synonymous with Communism/Multiculturalism and the very miasma cause the breakdown of White nations. Anybody who rails against “conservatism” as a general concept is either one of their agents, or a fool. I’m listening now, at a restaurant, to a singer who was the antithesis of conservatism, John Lennon, singing “a brotherhood of man…imagine all the people sharing all the world…and the world will live as one” blah blah. I imagine SM is playing such splendid anti-conservative music this very moment. 72
Posted by exPF on April 07, 2009, 04:11 PM | # Young Activist wrote:
I’m sorry that your contribution gets drowned out by the flora and fauna inhabiting the comments section of the blog. Allow me to speak for the generality of contributors here and say that your efforts enhearten us and give us hope; speaking for myself I find it quite inspiring. For young people, you set an example and plant the seeds of thought, to blossom in the future. I hope money and new activists will come your way as a result of association with us, although the contribution we are best able to make here is that of new ideas. Cheers and thank you. 73
Posted by Wandrin on April 07, 2009, 04:28 PM | #
The thread got a bit side-tracked by a tangential argument. Your group looks good and some dodgy links don’t change that. Good luck. 74
Posted by Frank on April 07, 2009, 06:27 PM | # SM wrote:
He did mention something far off in the future, but he also mentioned:
And this is what’s significant.
I dunno if you’re referring to the Asiatic and African invasions or to the odd Alpine subrace. I’m mostly Celtic but look Nordic. —- Young Activist, we Americans are cheering you on! I received your video via email, so hopefully it goes viral. I dunno if this is reasonable, but I’d have preferred there not be vandalism (graffiti) in the video. 75
Posted by Young Activist on April 07, 2009, 07:05 PM | # FAO Frank, of course its reasonable to suggest that the graffiti may seem a touch inappropiate but Graffiti is one of the best propaganda tools we have to convey our message to other youngsters. We have received a substantial amount of enquiries through such actions so I hope you can see that in the long run, it’s well worth it. As the video shows, the majority of walls were already emblazened with mindless tags anyway so Im sure something with a bit of meaning wouldn’t go down too badly with the frustrated locals. Of course, it goes with out saying that sites of National heritage or beauty shouldn’t ever be targetted in such a manner though. Thanks to those of you that support our cause. Aswell as the main site, a new blog will be up and running soon concentrating more on radical opposition to Capitalism, Imperialism and Globalism and in support of distributism and self dependancy. Ill be sure to get back on here with the address when it’s ready. 76
Posted by Captainchaos on April 07, 2009, 07:29 PM | # SM, You propose to enharem young women. But how would this be done? One young man, starting out in life, would be hard pressed to “enharem” many young women. He could seduce many, at once, unbeknownce to the others, for if they found out, they would become jealous, and perhaps leave him, or begin fighting amongst each other, at the end of which they would force him to choose, and there goes his harem. And how long could be realistically keep them from finding out about the other women? Or, he could kidnap them, and lock them all in his basement, or something. But this would presume he had sufficient resources for a sustainable hideaway, and to feed his captives. But how long could he get away with that? And if it is just one man, that doesn’t do much good, there would need to be a critical mass of such incidence, you see, to make a difference. Or, he could come together with like minded individuals, form a gang, and do it that way. Pool the resources. But then wouldn’t jealously among these thieves, soon stripped of their ‘honor’, cause the enterprise to disintegrate? Yes. What to do? Well? A hierarchy, a command structure would need to be formed in the gang. Said hierarchy would obviously depend upon force to be enforced. So the original members of the gang age, and with their progeny the gang expands, their sons being brought up into it. But it is an unstable order. These men, having absorbed the wisdom of eugenics, which was in fact the key motivation for forming the gang in the first place, to stop from having the power of acceptance or rejection vested in women, which leads to dysgenic outcomes, recognize that the sons of the initially decided upon leader, are not of the quality of other members of the gang. The intransigent leader, simply insists upon one of his sons inheriting his mantle of leadership. So a civil war breaks out, and the enterprise that started so promisingly, is smashed. Also, many of the young men, in fact a significant number of the most promising, were driven off by the older men, who feared they would beat them in competition for the collection of women. The best men having been driven off, added to the collapse of the gangs enterprise. And so we go, ad infinitum, nothing of lasting worth being built, and therefore negating the purpose of engaging in eugenic harem breeding in the first place. A fundamentally unstable order. If you are not a troll, get a clue. And if you are, well, you know what you can do with yourself. 77
Posted by Frank on April 08, 2009, 09:06 PM | # Young Activist:
That sounds wonderful!
That was just what popped into my mind watching the video. I don’t have a lot of graffiti where I live, but I know big cities are different. I’m sure you use good judgement. Vote BNP! 78
Posted by Mentious on April 09, 2009, 01:24 AM | # That kind of street communication is easy and cheap to do and will have a lot of effect on people. Plus, when young people see it, they copy, and it spreads. Because they can see it’s both easy and powerful. 79
Posted by Whitelad on May 26, 2009, 01:20 PM | # Oh god Mentious your on to us now!!!!!!!!!!! Yes MI5 has recruited a group of working class teenage….... I dunno if anyone else as ever had any experience of this but its really weird to have some little internet person make up some huge conspiracy that includes you. lol Anyway on to your points about me. You say I sound lower class, well im working class, so what? As for the anti David lane stuff that got pretty big on youtube as some weirdo (who sounded very much like you) made over 50 video about how he was a pedophile. The reds also posted a certain soundbite from the nazi pop twins documentary. Therefore I think I was totally justified in making a video in defense of David Lane. That brings me to the point of your dismissal of the video as not been very good, how about you make one yourself eh? I thought it was pretty decent and didn’t have any complains from anyone except you, telling eh? As for the ‘very crude, comic-book style books’ aren’t you even familiar with ducks and hens by George Lincoln Rockwell? To say you run your mouth off you dont know much do you? Next entry: Painting a Picture Previous entry: Majority Rights Mailbag |
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Posted by Anon on April 03, 2009, 06:06 PM | #
Good for them. I don’t have the balls to do that(yet). They had just better be ready to mix it up with the peelers and the muzzies/negroes that the police will let attack them.