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From Lisbon to Vladivostok – Europe, a NationAt the risk of being accused of ‘dumb-European’ anti-Americanism I thought this article by Robert Edwards of European Action might be of interest to those who contemplate what role nationalism might play in a future world in which globalism has proved to be a chimera, and national political economies cluster in increasingly fractious power blocs for mutual protection. Given such a scenario does it make any strategic sense for Britain, for example, to cleave to an Atlanticist perspective in the perhaps forlorn hope that under some future, more Anglo-centric US administration the ‘special relationship’ might be resuscitated? Is the BNP right in calling for Britain to leave the EU? If it did so, could it thrive on its own, or would it find itself out in the cold, adrift in a world in which every other developed economy found itself as a matter of national necessity an integral part of one bloc or another?
Posted by Dan Dare on Thursday, March 25, 2010 at 04:15 PM in Comments:3
Posted by Dan Dare on March 26, 2010, 01:51 AM | # Thank you Grimoire, I actually had your earlier remarks very much in mind while making it. 4
Posted by Guessedworker on March 26, 2010, 05:16 AM | # Forms of mutuality in protection of Europe’s nation states beg the question: what is the state of the states being protected? If the answer is: ethnically distinct and homogenous, and the sole purpose is to protect these distinct and homogenous ethnicities, I have no objection. If the answer is wider than that, and involves a further political process I am viscerally opposed. Likewise if the answer morphs into culturalism, the protection of Western civ, for example, or “Christendom”. Only if we can better protect our blood does a pan-European mutualism have value for me. 5
Posted by Wandrin on March 26, 2010, 05:44 PM | # Each nation in their own homeland living under their own laws in the way they want to live with an alliance for mutual defence of same. 6
Posted by Grimoire on March 27, 2010, 12:20 AM | # @Guessedworker: Yes friend but think, the future cannot preserve the past, it can only look back faithfully. The sole purpose of a European Republic (I will not say Union or State) cannot be to protect distinct ethnicities…..that will be the work of the nations within it. Eugenics programs will bring forth new possibilities unthought of. Distinct ethnicities in terms of genetics could actually radically alter all European ‘nations’. Europe will evolve as it must - but as Europe and not as Eurabia or Judeo/Europe. 7
Posted by Dan Dare on March 27, 2010, 02:27 AM | #
It seems panglossian to imagine that the ‘sole purpose’ of a National Europe should be to be protect the distinct and homogenous ethnicities within Europe’s nation states. That can only be a part of the motivation for entering into such a project. Without a ‘further political process’ to buttress such arrangements and to provide for sufficient external defences against the forces that would undo the process - global capitalism and egalitarian universalism being the principal existential threats - each nation state could be picked off at will by a wily and ruthless adversary. It seems quite clear that the price for preserving ethnic homogenity will be have to be some loss of national sovereignty. We are individually too puny to survive in an increasingly hostile and ruthless world. 8
Posted by Norman Lowell on March 28, 2010, 01:36 PM | # A new book, just published discussing our Imperium Europa IDEA. 9
Posted by U.R. on March 30, 2010, 03:34 AM | # Well, Vladivostok was actually an imperial conquest. 11
Posted by Leon Haller on March 02, 2011, 06:44 PM | # This EUROPEAN ACTION is not only a socialist organization, it is much weaker on immigration and Islam than your average American conservative. I liked Oswald Mosely, but these people are leftist jerks, draping themselves with a wee bit of patriotic finery. Next entry: We can all sigh with relief. Previous entry: Lee John Barnes “… a strange and complex character” – Nick Griffin |
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Posted by jamesUK on March 25, 2010, 11:20 PM | #
Actually Lyndon LaRouche tried to incorporate and propose the development of the former Warsaw pact countries that had an industrial base it could have utilised and highly educated populace incorporated in the new unified German creating an East-West economic bridge which would include development of high speed rail network.
There was even a major bank director in German who was going to set a development bank but Britain and the US as always opposed this fearing a shift in British/US dominion in Europe with a unified Germany so the bank director was killed in a very sophisticated IED road side bomb and LaRouche was arrested and sent to prison in the US on bogus charges and the rest you can say is history or soon will be.
http://www.voltairenet.org/article30038.html