To Destroy the Republican Party

Only one of Washington’s finest fellators could report a “civil war” is looming in the Republican Party, yet such newsprint has been seen lately. These reports bellow about an angry ‘base’ within the party. How laughable such talk of civil war is when one understands what is the Republican Party: a cabal of America’s debt merchants, militarists, and media manipulators, and as such, it has no ‘base’ other than the lemming herd it shepherds across the American landscape to whatever fate the “party” chooses.

Still, immigration is a festering sore and the ruling cabal is searching for any cure – short of stopping immigration and securing the border. If White Nationalists (for lack of a better term) were better organized they could surely create panic within the lemming herd, perhaps even dividing the herd and destroying the Republican Party.

I am fully convinced the political class is unable to respond to the immigration crises, or any other serious problem.  In the 1850s sectional, trade, and slavery controversies tore apart the Whig party, creating the Republican Party, which then led to a Second War for Independence in 1860. The immigration crisis, accompanied by its demographic trends and language conflicts contains the potential to destroy the Republicans in the same fashion, which might create enough strife, that we, – our people - might be able to secede or establish some sort independence from the Washington cabal.

When House Majority Leader Tom Delay speaks (WMV) about tough border enforcement – before

enacting a guest working amnesty program – understand this is pure prevarication: such pronouncements are designed to sooth the lemming herd to prevent a stampede.

Action

If you believe, as I do, the immigration crisis contains the potential to destroy the Republican Party thereby possibly freeing ourselves from the Washington Oligarchy then I encourage you to register with mainstream immigration reform groups like NumbersUSA, FAIR, Minutemen, and others; these groups could form the nucleus from which we might drive the Republican Party into oblivion. What option do we have, other than drinking beer and watching baseball games?

In the end, the Republican Party cabal (America’s debt merchants, militarists, and media manipulators) understands three million bodies illegally enter the United States each year, and they like it! While the invasion progresses the same cabal uses the ‘war on terror’ to shamelessly report that terrorists wish to destroy the nation; and if this were so, and the cabal really believed so, would they purposely allow the borders to remain open? They obviously fear closing the borders more than they fear the so called “terrorists”.  Fill in the details: think!


Finally

A short quote from Juvenal a first century Roman satirist seem apropos:

All of them lighting out for the City’s classiest districts
and burrowing into great houses, with plans to take them over.
Quick wit, unlimited nerve, a gift of gab that outsmarts
a professional public speaker - that’s them. So what do you take
that fellow to be? He’s brought every profession with him -
schoolmaster, rhetorician, surveyor, artist, masseur,
diviner, tightrope-walker, magician, or quack, your hungry
Greekling is all by turns. Tell him to fly - he’s airborne!

Posted by leslie on Saturday, August 13, 2005 at 12:12 PM in U.S. Politics
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Posted by Geoff Beck on August 13, 2005, 12:33 PM | #

Special note:

At this time I am formally disengaging from hostilities with Mr. Ray. From this time forward my silence shall greet Mr. Ray’s posts and comments. I do this out of respect for the blog, its participants, and its proprietor.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on August 13, 2005, 01:28 PM | #

John’s ideal society is Brazil, Geoff.  The instant I saw Steve Edwards point that out a week or so ago (with a reminder again today in another thread) I’ve stopped tearing my hair out whenever I have to engage the man.  It’s as if a big weight has been lifted off my chest and I can breathe again—I no longer have to hold my breath and count slowly to ten each time I speak to him.  In fact, we get along famously now, he and I.  We’re best of friends.  I know he loves Brazil—absolutely adores the place—it’s his dream-society, the one he hopes every place on earth will turn into—I know that’s his view, his taste, his dream, and so I no longer expect aught else from the man, I can calm down knowing he’ll never be convinced otherwise, and we can now get along for the first time.  That’s what you’ve got to do—understand what he wants, what he likes, what he dreams of, that he’ll never change, and once you’ve accepted that—which I did a week ago, thanks to that live-saver Steve Edwards—it’ll be all smooth sailing from there on and you can be friends with him.  It’s similar to when Bertrand Russell said you can’t be happy in life until you’ve accepted that men are wicked and are going to be as wicked as they can possibly get away with.  As long as you cherish the hope that it’s possible for things to be otherwise you are doomed to a miserable existence, but once you accept that truth about the world, abandoning all hope things might be otherwise, expecting nothing better from the generality of men, you can for the first time start to actually live happily. 

Accept John as he is, and you won’t want to tear your hair out.

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Posted by Will Barett on August 13, 2005, 01:45 PM | #

There isn’t going to be a civil war over immigration in the Republican party.  Bush’s position on open borders has been clear from the beginning, and no one voted for Buchanan or Phillips in 2000.  No one voted for Peroutka in 2004, and no one will vote for Tancredo or any other protest candidate in 2008. 

All the grassroots, and this includes most of the people concerned about immigration, care about is that “George Dubya is a good Christian,” “We got to bomb them Ay-rabs” and “Civilization will end when [Clinton/Gore/Kerry/Hillary] gets elected.  We can’t abandon the Republicans!”

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Posted by Geoff Beck on August 13, 2005, 01:51 PM | #

Who voted for the Republicans in 1858? Nobody. Remember Ross Perot was able to get 17% in 92. It won’t take much to upset the apple cart. The problem is media, our enemies own it. They keep the herd sedated, but a disasterous campaign in Iraq, Afganistan, and maybe Iran might also be a catalyst to ignite trouble.

Staying with the Republican Party means death by strangulation. I do not want to die, and I know I am not alone.

PS: I agree with you WIll Barret, there will be no civil war in the Republican party - since the party consists solely of Oligarchs - and they agree on everything. It is only by subversion, conflict, and wedge issues that we can destroy the party - from the outside.

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Posted by James Bowery on August 13, 2005, 02:01 PM | #

There should be more of an alliance between white nationalists and black nationalists about immigration reform.  The people being impacted most directly by Mexican immigration are working class blacks—the vast majority of them—the the only representatives those blacks have are the black nationalists. 

Cut a deal with the black nationalists.  Establish working universal nationalist border patrols—not the Minutemen—with some teams drawn from the Nation of Islam working in alliance with teams drawn from white nationalist organizations.

Salter’s theories are nice but a principle of our culture—the origin of science—is to test theory.  This could be a good test.

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Posted by Geoff Beck on August 13, 2005, 02:21 PM | #

Here is something any American reading this can easily do:

A Republican Bowel Movement: a How To

The Republican Party is a false friend. If you don’t know how to change your voting registration here are some hints:

1) Google for your state’s name and something like “elections commission”.

2) This ought to bring you to your state’s election commission which then ought to include a list of counties.

3) After finding your county’s election commission nearby ought to be a form for registration/re-registration.

4) Print it out, fill it in, send it in, and use your old voter id card as toilet paper.

The Republican party does not deserve your affiliation after the harm they have done and are doing to the nation. I don’t think anyone is stupid enough to give them money, if so stop: you might as well give it to the president of Mexico.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on August 13, 2005, 02:26 PM | #

James Bowery is right but U.S. Christian Negroes would be more likely to join a Minuteman-like border-patrolling effort than U.S. Moslem Negroes who’d disagree with restrictions on unlimited Moslem immigration into the country whether legal or illegal.  Christian Negroes, the traditional kind of U.S. Negro, can’t stand the Mexican influx—are enraged over it, and loathe Mexicans—but exactly as with representatives of whites, representatives of Negroes in D.C. are either bought-and-paid-for, or just plain scared to open their mouths, or clueless (often clueless females, both Negro and white, predominate in this last category—haven’t a clue as to what races are, and generally can’t even be convinced that such things exist, just as is the case with a certain category of effeminate, testosterone-challenged, limp-wristed, whining, lithping men:  the us-them thing, a testosterone effect, is foreign to men lacking that hormone in their blood streams).

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Posted by James Bowery on August 13, 2005, 02:52 PM | #

U.S. Moslem Negroes who’d disagree with restrictions on unlimited Moslem immigration into the country whether legal or illegal

If this would stop the Nation of Islam from attempting to slow the huge influx from Mexico to lower the wages if not displace working class blacks from their jobs entirely, I think the working class black man needs to be made aware of this betrayal by the Nation of Islam.

And by the way the brain structure that appears most involved in “us them” categorization is the amygdala—the most sexually dimorphic of brain structures—which shrinks by 30% typically when a man is castrated.  The amygdala is also the focal point of damage in AIDS-neuropathy and is a major focal point of damage in the autism epidemic sweeping European races—primarily northern European races.

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Posted by Geoff Beck on August 13, 2005, 03:08 PM | #

Fred

> The Christian Negroes

They too are paralyzed. They are taught to hate the white man from birth, schooling and adulthood by the media, though their eyes tell them the Mexican is the mortal threat.

Well, my guess is, they will be unable to make a decision. And in so far as action is performed it will be a fractious brown/black coalition against white Americans. Once - or if - we are eliminated or ‘neutralized’ all bets are off. But it won’t matter then.

Classic case of divide & conquer.

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Posted by Svigor on August 13, 2005, 03:23 PM | #

Salter’s theories are nice but a principle of our culture—the origin of science—is to test theory.  This could be a good test.

There should be more of an alliance between white nationalists and black nationalists about [x].

Agreed.  I think this might be one of those things where the very highest levels could enact top-down change in attitudes.  Racial nationalists need to understand very clearly certain common interests, and the inherent PR value of such an alliance.

Btw I enjoy reading your posts.

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Posted by Svigor on August 13, 2005, 03:23 PM | #

Salter’s theories are nice but a principle of our culture—the origin of science—is to test theory.  This could be a good test.

What do you mean here?

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Posted by Svigor on August 13, 2005, 03:36 PM | #

If this would stop the Nation of Islam from attempting to slow the huge influx from Mexico to lower the wages if not displace working class blacks from their jobs entirely, I think the working class black man needs to be made aware of this betrayal by the Nation of Islam.

Yes, and BNs (should) know that.  There aren’t huge numbers here or entering from the Muslim world, except maybe blacks from east Africa, who tend not to get along with American blacks.

As everyone knows, ME males are the thin edge of the wedge for multiculturalism.  Few in the west can resist seeing the bad side of ME males/Muslims; once one group is singled out for opprobrium it becomes harder to justify the general taboo on talking about groups.  Cognitive dissonance ensues.

BNs knows all this too.  The question is, are they after power or are they after altruism towards aliens who in general regard them and their religion as a joke at best?

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Posted by Tournament of Champions on August 13, 2005, 03:53 PM | #

WNs do not have the fundamentals down: a kin-based organization, its own mass media channels, and other organizational structures (e.g. equivalent to the role the ADL performs). Without them there shall never be victory… even if there were a “civil war” in the Rep. party we would be unable to take any more than fleeting advantage of it.

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Posted by friedrich braun on August 13, 2005, 04:04 PM | #

More tragic news for American Whites.

American Whites are becoming a minority in virtually all states at a frightening pace.

Massive anti-White violence is just around the corner.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/08/12/news/census.php

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Posted by Geoff Beck on August 13, 2005, 05:44 PM | #

FB,

But they are just like us… except for skin color!

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Posted by friedrich braun on August 13, 2005, 06:11 PM | #

“Can’t we all just get along?”

lol

I’m reading now Amy Chua’s World on Fire, a fine book with lots of good info.

However, two points:

1) She either knows absolutely nothing about race, genetics, or the hereditary nature of IQ; or

2)REFUSES to speculate as to why some groups are wildly more successful than others. Obviously acknowledging racial differences would be both too painful for this liberal academic and potentially threatening to her professional career. She boldly says at the beginning that she will NOT offer any explanations as to why some groups are more successful than others. Hence, the value of her book is diminished by her stated refusal to look at unpleasant realities (i.e., we are not all created equal). As it stands,  her book stops at describing events and doesn’t go much deeper than that. However, the facts she brought together are very interesting.

That’s why the book should be read in conjunction with IQ and the Wealth of Nations which at least tries to explain the discrepancies between successful populations and failures.

I find it funny and unbelievable that she hasn’t apparently read it, since nowehere does she refers to it.

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Posted by Matra on August 13, 2005, 06:31 PM | #

That’s why the book should be read in conjunction with IQ and the Wealth of Nations

I read Chua’s book last Christmas and found the anecdotal info very interesting. I’d love to get a copy of IQ and the Wealth of Nations (co-written, if I’m not mistaken, by a fellow Ulsterman) but it’s over a hundred bucks on ABE Books and Amazon. I take it that means it’s no longer being printed.

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Posted by Geoff Beck on August 13, 2005, 06:41 PM | #

FB,

I saw Amy Chua being interviewed on C-Span’s booknotes with Brian Lamb. She swims among the East Coast elites. If I recall she is some sort of Harvard lecturer and her husband is some kind of Jewish academic.

To write a book documenting innate biological differences between races would clearly exclude her from polite society, and more importantly, might wreck her career.

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Posted by Geoff Beck on August 13, 2005, 06:43 PM | #

Here is the URL for the Booknotes Interview with Amy Chau: http://www.booknotes.org/Transcript/?ProgramID=1714
The video is available for viewing.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on August 13, 2005, 07:14 PM | #

That New York Times article linked by Friedrich Braun (8:04 PM) is simply an account of how everything is going according to plan—sort of a progress report.  That it’s the plan is clear from the simple fact that it’s not being halted, though it could be brought screeching to a halt in about five minutes by implementation of a small handful of simple measures.  Something that is, number one, obviously happening, and number two, could be halted without too much difficulty but isn’t halted, must, number three, be what’s explicitly desired. 

We who read the article with absolute horror can’t comprehend people like John Ray who read it with a warm feeling of satisfied approval more or less, a feeling that things are more or less on the right track, or Martin H. who glances at it with a vaguely distracted yawn unable to see what the problem is really, certainly seeing nothing whatsoever to be alarmed about, at any rate, even if one or two details could stand a bit of minor tinkering. 

What’s happening is happening because people who view things as John and Martin do are in the majority.  That’s going to change. 

The Jews, by the way, are a little hard to talk about in this regard because the Jewish rank-and-file aren’t making their feelings about it known.  Dlg, an American Jew living in Europe who occasionally comments here, says his impression is Jews in Europe are alarmed at the Moslem influx there.  A few Jewish voices in the States express opposition to further Moslem immigration here, citing a potential threat of increased Moslem political influence, not to mention terrorism, but no Jewish organization or Jewish public intellectual or public personage on either side of the Atlantic has openly expressed anything but the most enthusiastic approval of white Euro race-replacement through uncontrolled immigration, and near-hysterical condemnation, using vile undeserved epithets, of all who dare question it. 

What makes organized Jewish opinion remarkable in this regard is it opposes what would be the corresponding immigration policy for Israel, i.e., unlimited influx of non-Jews.  This hypocrisy is one-hundred-percent unacceptable, and worse.  I view it as genocidal.  But where white Euro Christians like George Bush, Jacques Chirac, and John Ray make up the majority of white Euro opinion how can the Jews be responsible for what’s going on?  They can’t, though they—as represented by their organizations and their public individuals at all levels—are fair game for condemnation in view of their absolutely astounding, wholly unacceptable hypocrisy which suggests more than anything a nakedly tribal strategy-position adopted in the hope of damaging a two-thousand-year-old rival, white-Euro Christendom.

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Posted by James Bowery on August 13, 2005, 07:27 PM | #

white Euro Christians like George Bush, Jacques Chirac, and John Ray make up the majority of white Euro opinion

What?  The polls I read say the white public has been consistently for less immigration than those you mention.

Did I misread you?

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Posted by Lurker on August 13, 2005, 07:49 PM | #

JB - I presumed Fred meant something like elite white Euro opinion, not the man in the street.

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Posted by Stuka on August 13, 2005, 07:53 PM | #

Whoa! Before we attempt to attract negroes to the immigration reform movement, let’s focus on attracting more whites first. Whites are, after all, the vast majority. The legitimacy of immigration reform shouldn’t depend on how many blacks or other non-whites support it.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on August 13, 2005, 08:33 PM | #

Thanks, Lurker—I wasn’t clear:  that was partly what I meant—the majority opinion of the white Euro Christian class of élites which is in a position to actually, any time it wants, bring deliberate race-replacement “screeching to a halt in about five minutes by implementation of a small handful of simple measures.”  If Bill Gates, Paul Allen, Warren Buffett, Ross Perot, Dan Quayle, Donald Trump, Richard Mellon Scaife, Boone Pickens, a couple of the heirs of Sam Walton, one or two of the Rockefellers, and a number of others of their class took a few minutes each to make about five strategically-placed phone calls you’d suddenly feel a lurch under your feet in the American ship of state as the whole race-replacement immigration scheme (that was apparently decided to be implemented somewhere in the mid-70s behind closed doors) was abruptly got on the fast track to dismantlement.  Talking about the role of Jews, incidentally, the other month while reading some log entries over at Steve Sailer’s or Griffe’s or somewhere I did a rough mental calculation to the effect—correct me if I’m wrong—there are about six times as many white Christians as Jews in this country having IQs above 140 and about four times as many having IQs above 145.  Now, these élite-class white Christians with IQs in that range certainly aren’t being led around by the nose by Jews of their intelligence level who make up only a small fraction of their numbers in the population.  That’s obviously not what’s going on.  Where are all these voices speaking up on this subject?  They’re not being raised because these people don’t object to what’s going on ... yet.  But I also meant, though I didn’t refer to it, the broad mass of the white Euro Christian population in this country who, yes it’s absolutely true, indicate their displeasure with race-replacement in polls specifically on that subject, but don’t exert concentrated political pressure in that direction where election campaigns are concerned.  They don’t yet rank race-replacement (what they naïvely view as illegal immigration though it’s the whole ball of wax of course, both illegal and legal incompatible immigration) as a problem meriting single-issue or near-single-issue importance for them—but that will come.

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Posted by friedrich braun on August 13, 2005, 08:41 PM | #

On how so-called “anti-racist” laws work against the indigenous European populations. It is now illegal to even mention refugees/immigrants in print even without referring to their race.

This article left me speechless.

The editor of a Scottish weekly newspaper is facing possible prosecution under Britain’s anti-racism laws, following the publication of an article claiming that a massive refugee camp could be built in Scotland.


http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1755302005

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on August 13, 2005, 08:48 PM | #

Friedrich, I had seen that article too, over at

Adam Lawson’s

, I think, and I had the same reaction—un-fuh-RICKing-buh-LIEVE-able.  Unfrickingbelievable.  Just ... unbelievable.  When the awakening comes, I tell ya—the people who’ve been associated with ramming this stuff down our throats will have reason to ... well, let’s just leave it at that ...

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on August 13, 2005, 08:51 PM | #

Stuka, with all respect, I wonder if you’re right—I think we should cultivate, and certainly welcome, all the allies we can get as soon as we can get them.  No exceptions.

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Posted by James Bowery on August 13, 2005, 08:53 PM | #

The legitimacy of immigration reform shouldn’t depend on how many blacks or other non-whites support it.

First of all, I wasn’t just advocating that blacks be approached, but black nationalists.  The difference is the difference between universal nationalism in practice and simple gaming of the political system.

Secondly, in a just world legitimacy doesn’t depend on the presence of non-whites in the immigration reform movement but in the crazed world by which we’re tyrannized political viability does.  Black employment is the political achilles heel of the current deal that has been struck between Republicans and Democrats.  Despite all the “rainbow coalition” rhetoric blacks know the Latinization, Islamization or Hinduization of the US will mean descent into a state similar to those racist regions.  Indeed, I can easily imagine a black nation forming in the southern States of the US that makes special dispensation for the ongoing residence of southern whites, while excluding non-black immigration, for precisely that reason.

The main weakness with this sort of alliance is that Africans have a penchant for extremes in distribution of wealth and power that may make any attempt to appeal to them on the basis of fairness to their poorer members fail.  Africa has some of the most extreme disparities of wealth and fertility (due to polygyny) in the world.  Where this weakness may be shored up somewhat is due to the fact that there has been substantial admixture among American blacks with Scotch-Irish as well as some aculturation to their ways.

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Posted by ben tillman on August 13, 2005, 09:07 PM | #

There should be more of an alliance between white nationalists and black nationalists about immigration reform.  The people being impacted most directly by Mexican immigration are working class blacks….

Not only working-class but also welfare-class blacks, as Mexicans and other immigrant groups compete for public subsidies. 

Blacks do not like mass immigration one bit, but they are even more disorganized than we are, and their elite is even more prone to treachery than is ours.  Nonetheless, I would welcome their participation in any immigration reform coalition.

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Posted by amon on August 13, 2005, 09:18 PM | #

Geoff, you left out the most important advice: ACT FAST. EVERY area in the USA is getting third worldized, and the larger their numbers get, the harder it will be to seceed for racist reasons.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on August 13, 2005, 09:21 PM | #

“I would welcome [Negro] participation in any immigration reform coalition.”  (—Ben)

Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely.  Every ally, no exceptions:  greens worried about the environment, liberal Dems worried about wage levels, women’s libbers worried about imported “male chauvinism,” Jews worried about imported “anti-Semitism,” homos like Pim Fortuyn worried about imported anti-homo attitudes, extreme radical leftists like Theo van Gogh worried about imported anti-radical-leftism, Negroes worried about job- and welfare-competition by Mexican peasants—everyone who’s a potential ally should be welcomed.  Nick Griffin did absolutely the right thing to participate in the conference organized by David Duke’s outfit.  The other side’s fighting tooth-and-nail to kill us.  We’d better start fighting intelligently to stay alive.

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Posted by Geoff Beck on August 13, 2005, 10:31 PM | #

> Act Fast

Yes, Amon is right

Please Americans, do something. It will cost you nothing to register with the groups I mentioned above. You’ll learn a lot about how the system works, and how to network with others. You’ll be invited to regional and group meetings, and you’ll meet others.

Please act: time is running out!

We need to learn how to work in groups and cooperation with other like minded souls.

http://www.numbersusa.com/
http://www.fairus.org
http://www.minutemanhq.com/

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Posted by Tournament of Champions on August 14, 2005, 02:16 AM | #

Bill Gates, Paul Allen, Warren Buffett, Ross Perot, Dan Quayle, Donald Trump, Richard Mellon Scaife, Boone Pickens, a couple of the heirs of Sam Walton, one or two of the Rockefellers

Waltons are half Jewish according to some sources(on their mom’s side). Boone Pickens is Jewish, and Rockefellers Sephardic.

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Posted by Stuka on August 14, 2005, 11:51 AM | #

I still think the search for allies on the Left and among non-whites should be secondary. The primary focus should be on forging a white identity, and organizing & mobilizing whites. Ask yourself, Are we fighting the open borders crowd in order to preserve our multicultural, multiracial society, or to defend our families, community, culture, & heritage?

I’ve argued with Joe Turner at SOS about this very topic. He thinks SOS and the “anti-illegal immigration movement” should be a “broad tent”; accordingly he is reaching out to blacks in South Central LA, who are hit hard by Mexican incursions. Some of these “broad tent” immigration reformers, such as Joe, are more Politically Correct than liberals themselves.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on August 14, 2005, 12:56 PM | #

Stuka you can’t be picky when there’s a war on.  You take your allies where you can get them and you take all you can get.  You worry about details later, after you and your allies have won.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on August 14, 2005, 01:11 PM | #

When I say we need all the allies we can get, I’m obviously talking about allies that are potentially helpful to our side, not hurtful to it such as Nazis strutting around in Nazi uniforms—95% of whom, in any case, are FBI agents, informers on the FBI or Anti-Defamation League payroll (I wouldn’t be surprised if the Mossad’s got some on its payroll as well), and professional agents provocateurs working for the federal government in some capacity or other.  In any given Nazi Party “cell,” such as the outfit that recently demonstrated in support of the Minutemen and got themselves captured on film (as if by pure chance ...) by an open-borders fanatic looking to discredit the Minutemen—in any given Nazi Party “cell” about, what—five percent?  ten? aren’t (that’s aren’t, not are) paid informants or agents provocateurs of the FBI, some other fed agency, or some other outfit like the ADL, and that includes the cell’s “leaders.”

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Posted by Svigor on August 14, 2005, 05:07 PM | #

I wouldn’t be surprised if the Mossad’s got some on its payroll as well

I’d be flabbergasted if they didn’t.

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Posted by Steve Edwards on August 14, 2005, 06:36 PM | #

Fred - I don’t have any information on the US, and therefore cannot comment on the American “nazi” movement. However, given the overwhelming evidence of German government manipulation and influence over their “neo-nazis”, it would be incredibly naive to assume that all self-professed “nazis” are genuine. Given the nature of government, we have every reason to believe that the elites are deliberately creating phony nazi movements to distract the public from their real agenda.

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Posted by Stuka on August 14, 2005, 07:16 PM | #

There is no “American nazi movement”.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on August 14, 2005, 08:38 PM | #

Steve Edwards and Stuka are of course right.  Ninety percent of the “American Nazi movement” is U.S.-government created and fomented and is used partly to besmirch and discredit movements the government is afraid of like the quasi-military “Militias” some years back, which were very good outfits but were successfully propagandized out of existence by the government following the Oklahoma City bombing, mostly by being painted as Nazis, which they weren’t of course.  People were afraid to join or support them after that.  The Nazi “leaders” themselves are almost all on the FBI, BATF, or some other fed guv payroll.  They’d be gassed and burned to death with tanks in a matter of days if they weren’t, exactly as the Branch Davidians were (I guess that’s one way we know David Koresh wasn’t on the FBI payroll ...).

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Posted by friedrich braun on August 14, 2005, 08:55 PM | #

“There is no “American nazi movement”.”

That’s correct, what you do have is a handful of costume fetishists. 

NSM Rally

Scroll down:

http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=237483#post237483

(That guy on the left in the last picture looks like a Filipino *shudders*.)

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Posted by Stuka on August 15, 2005, 12:24 AM | #

Geez. “Costume fetishists” is an understatement! And what’s up with the shaved heads? I don’t get that. Unless you’re really going bald, that is. Anyway, it seems as though these guys are playing right into the hands of their critics. The nazi fetishists, the Jews, the government…they need one another, they depend on one another.

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Posted by James Bowery on August 16, 2005, 01:36 AM | #

And what’s up with the shaved heads?

Its prison “fashion”.  Whites are forced to join white gangs to survive prison in the US due to the threat of sexual slavery by non-white gangs that are the majority population in prisons.  Shaved heads are frequently an advantage in close, weaponless, combat since there is nothing for the opponent to grab.  These white gangs are frequently controlled directly or indirectly by the prison authorities so naturally Nazi symbolism is encouraged—after all, the Nazis lost.

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