America 2050: A Nightmare Vision

2050 is the earthly year of reckoning for White Americans. It is the year we are scheduled to become a minority in the country our fathers founded. The system of laws and customs, many of quite ancient origin, are already disfigured in our present time.  It seems unlikely races that have known only despotism or poverty can further the traditions of American liberty. So, I’ve penned my vision of America 2050.

Background:

In 2025 a humiliated American military retreats from the Arab Middle-East, after dying a death of a thousand cuts. The last American soldiers leave Israel by 2036. In 2048 Israel is annihilated by Arab armies armed with Russian hardware.

After the American withdrawal the finances of the United States collapse. Foreign governments use the U.S. dollar, formerly the world’s reserve currency, to purchase American property: including Hawaii, mainland parks, forests, ports, and entire industries which could not be shipped overseas. In 2035, having dumped the last American Dollar, China proclaims itself the official world’s reserve currency.

Political Map of the USA 2004 is

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American West:

In 2050 secessionists, financed by Mexico, control the port cities of Los Angeles and Houston. The military establishes an ineffective cordon around those cities. Washington’s business elite veto any strike against Mexico, by this time most of the American business elites are married into the Mexican ruling class.

Quelling the secessionists proves impossible. Much of the army is comprised of Mexican Hispanics that will not fire on their kinsman; furthermore, ‘Mexican-American’ soldiers will only serve under other ‘Mexican-American’ generals. Most of these generals are agents of Mexico, and despise Gentile America.

Whites, now a dwindling minority, resist recruitment into the military, and see the military and state organs of power as their worst enemy. (Fifty years too late).

Mexico senses a weakened prey and demands the U.S. Government arrest independent White militias protecting towns from Texas to California. The U.S. government dispatches General Alberto Gonzalez II, grandson of the current attorney general, with tanks and machine guns. Each town and its militia is annihilated, its leaders executed by machetes.

Most Whites from the Western U.S. flee to the states of the Mid-West.

American Northwest:

In 2050 a united Korea, China, and Japan insist the U.S. protect Asian minorities in San Francisco, Oregon and Washington States, though the communal strife in these areas is orchestrated by Beijing. Despite warnings by the U.S. government the Asian coalition sends a battle fleet to San Francisco Bay and occupies Marin County, and the Olympic peninsula in Washington State.

American South:

Industrial work having long disappeared from the upper Midwest Blacks began migrating back to the South as far back as the year 2000. By 2050 communal violence between Whites and Blacks forces the remaining Blacks to flee to the South. Now in sufficient numbers they then evict most Whites from the South, forcing them to flee to the upper South, especially Missouri, Kentucky, and West Virginia.

American Northeast:

Though no foreign power lays claim to the Northeast the populations are bitterly divided, and balkanized; whites are an insignificant minority in all Metropolises. Millions of Jews fleeing Arab bullets emigrate to the Northeast and they effectively rule vast areas of the Northeast. Interestingly, China offers to resettle many Jews on the island of Taiwan. Also fascinating, millions of Whites suddenly discover they are Jewish. Only now, after two centuries of American anti-Semitism, Jews are finally free.

 

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Posted by Svigor on March 12, 2005, 03:48 PM | #

In 2048 Israel is annihilated by Arab armies armed with Russian hardware.

In 2048 Arab armies attack Israel and she unleashes a biological weapon designed to target only Semites which kills anyone not vaccinated; the Middle East is completely depopulated.

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Posted by Phil Peterson on March 12, 2005, 04:23 PM | #

“In 2048 Arab armies attack Israel and she unleashes a biological weapon designed to target only Semites which kills anyone not vaccinated; the Middle East is completely depopulated.”

Thats far fetched. Also, by 2048 Arabs will most likely be a majority WITHIN Israel.

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Posted by Geoff Beck on March 12, 2005, 04:47 PM | #

99% is about North America, what no critique? Or you agree? I tried to be imaginative and realistic.

Here’s an email I got from FAIR:

9th Circuit Court Legislating Asylum Policy: Back-to-Back Decisions Vastly Expand Grounds for Gaining Asylum in U.S.

(Washington, DC – March 11, 2005) A pair of decisions handed down by the San Francisco-based 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, long noted as the most activist court in the land, has vastly expanded the grounds for being granted political asylum in the United States.

...
During the past week, the 9th Circuit

ruled that the husbands of women subject to China’s family planning policies and women from societies that practice female circumcision are eligible for political asylum

. While both practices are abhorrent, neither is political and neither singles out individuals based on race, religions, nationality or political ideology.

“The rulings issued this past week by the 9th Circuit are so broad that they could potentially render hundreds of millions of people eligible for asylum in the U.S.,”

said Dan Stein, president of FAIR. “The reckless decisions of federal judges necessitate action by Congress to clearly and more narrowly define the grounds for asylum.

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Posted by Phil Peterson on March 12, 2005, 05:55 PM | #

Critique:

The future is difficult, nay, impossible to predict.

Things we can predict:

The flood of immigrants into the US won’t stop until the country reaches breaking point. The country will be run into the ground financially. The welfare costs will be impossible to meet without raising taxes exponentially.

Once the country is in financial ruin, military power will begin to shrink dramatically.

What happens when the country goes into financial ruin? That is impossible for me to say. What happened when Germany went into financial ruin in the late 1920s? But then America is not Germany.

So, you’ve courageously stuck your neck out and made your prediction. It may well come true. It is certainly not inconceivable. As for me, I desist from making a prediction, except for a very egenral prediction: the future will be nasty. Those bad old days Hollywood keeps reminding us of were a golden age permanently lost. When the country is completely wrecked and destroyed, historians will look back to the bad old days - Jim Crow, Segregation, Homophobia, Racialism, Sexism as the age of greatness followed by decay and then the collapse.

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Posted by Svigor on March 12, 2005, 06:00 PM | #

No, that’s just what stuck in my craw - I don’t see Israel ever putting herself in a position where Arab military power could destroy her (Arab babies are another story entirely Phil smile ).

I agree that you’ve identified a great many trends and where they lead, but I believe transhumanism will (completely) transform society before 2050.  Transhumanism and associated futuristic phenomena (nanomanufacturing, nanotechnology, biotechnology, strong and weak AI, etc.) are great big fat trump cards that I think inevitable barring an intervening extinction level event (ELE - which could wind up being transhumanism itself).

Pretend that this isn’t our most likely future?  Given that this kind of speculation is always intensely problematic (hah!  try speculating on transumanism; it goes from problematic to impossible)

by this time most of the American business elites are married into the Mexico ruling class.

I don’t deny this possibility, but I’d need some evidence that it’s a likelihood before I entertain it seriously.

In 2050 secessionists, financed by Mexico, control the port cities of Los Angeles and Houston. The military establishes an ineffective cordon around those cities. Washington’s business elite veto any strike against Mexico, by this time most of the American business elites are married into the Mexico ruling class.

I think the Mestizos will settle for de facto control via demographics.  Why bother making any of America officially the territory of Mexico when the current strategy of turning America into Mexico II is proving so trivially easy?

Despite warnings by the U.S. government the Asian coalition sends a battle fleet to San Francisco Bay and occupies Marin County, and the Olympic peninsula in Washington State.

America would probably drop the egg on the invaders if conventional means proved insufficient (which is unlikely given how powerful a deterrent anti-ship missles are, regardless of how our government pretends otherwise)*

After the American withdrawal the finances of the United States collapse.

That’s an interesting precipitating event you suggest, one I’m finding hard to argue against.  Still, there’s decline and there’s collapse - by 2025 there won’t be nearly as much left to collapse is my guess.  Who knows, maybe we’ll actually get leaders who will reverse our budget and deficit problems?

Now in sufficient numbers they then evict most Whites from the South, forcing them to flee to the upper South, especially Missouri, Kentucky, and West Virginia.

Well, I think white flight would be more likely, but the end is roughly the same.

*http://www.exile.ru/156/156032003.html (then again, maybe lasers or other countermeasures will make missles less a threat by then)

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Posted by Svigor on March 12, 2005, 06:04 PM | #

Now Phil’s post I can agree with unreservedly. smile

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Posted by Geoff Beck on March 12, 2005, 06:08 PM | #

Svy:

U.S. ambassador to Mexico

marries Mexican heiress

Who is George P. Bush?


George P. Bush(The Mexican) campaiging for his Uncle (traitor and president):

“‘This is a President who represents the diversity of our society, who we can count on to change the Republican Party to represent our views.’” … He told the rally his mother had instilled him the values of Cesar Chavez, the Chicano activist who fought for the rights of migrant farmworkers in the United States. ‘She told me we have to fight for our race, we have to find the leaders who represent us,’ he said in fluent Spanish.’

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Posted by Svigor on March 12, 2005, 06:18 PM | #

I know about Jorge, but he doesn’t indicate a trend leading to a majority of our business elite intermarried with Mexico’s business elite.

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Posted by Geoff Beck on March 12, 2005, 06:20 PM | #

Sailer’s article is more than about George P. Bush.

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Posted by Phil Peterson on March 12, 2005, 06:20 PM | #

“I don’t see Israel ever putting herself in a position where Arab military power could destroy her”

I agree. Israel’s survival is not endangered by Arab military prowess (an oxymoron) but by Arab demographics and the Jewish birthrate (or the lack thereof).

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Posted by Svigor on March 12, 2005, 06:21 PM | #

I think “Brazil” gives a good one-word synopsis of where America is going if trends continue.  I find the catastrophic predictions less compelling than those of slow, inexorable decline.

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Posted by Geoff Beck on March 12, 2005, 06:22 PM | #

Svy:

The Brazil scenario is very likely, I agree.

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Posted by Geoff Beck on March 12, 2005, 06:25 PM | #

Phil:

I don’t think the Jews will nuke the Arabs, if faced with destruction. I think they’ll pack their bags and disperse.

There are many green pastures in the world. Lots of gov’ts would invite trained, educated, and capable jewish minds in their domains. Good lord, how many times has that happened.

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Posted by Svigor on March 12, 2005, 06:30 PM | #

I don’t think the Jews will nuke the Arabs, if faced with destruction. I think they’ll pack their bags and disperse.

What makes you think not?

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Posted by Phil Peterson on March 12, 2005, 06:30 PM | #

“I don’t think the Jews (I take it you mean Israel?) will nuke the Arabs, if faced with destruction. I think they’ll pack their bags and disperse.”

I agree. They don’t have the stomach for mass slaughter which is the only thing that can save Israel in the long run. A few walls here and there wont do it.

They will all come to America; its their last safe haven. Europe will be in civil war by then.

Your prediction about the Chinese promising to settle Jews in Taiwan wont happen. The Chinese don’t give a monkeys about anyone.

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Posted by Svigor on March 12, 2005, 06:40 PM | #

Your prediction about the Chinese promising to settle Jews in Taiwan wont happen. The Chinese don’t give a monkeys about anyone.

smile My guess is Geoff wasn’t suggesting altruistic motives.

Still, I think the Chinese are intelligent enough students of history to avoid such a blunder (still, maybe that’s why he suggested Taiwan...).

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Posted by Svigor on March 12, 2005, 06:42 PM | #

Oh, and I don’t think they have the stomach for egging the Arabs, but I think they could find a general or two who do.

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Posted by Geoff Beck on March 12, 2005, 06:42 PM | #

Taiwan and the Jews:

I ***think*** Kevin MacDonald speculates that the US will be managed(governed) by Jewish business elites teamed with Asian technocrats and engineers.

That’s where I got the Taiwan model. Oh, yes, the Chinese would want to keep them at arm’s length. IMHO.

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Posted by Svigor on March 12, 2005, 06:53 PM | #

I tend to agree with MacDonald, but that’ll only be a temporary situation: the Chinese’ll do to the Jews precisely what the Jews did to the WASPs.  China has what, 1.2 billion people?  Those raw numbers plus east Asian mean IQ add up to a cognitive elite that simply can’t be let in the door.  When China’s economy achieves relative parity with western nations, they’ll take over any nation that stupidly leaves the door open.

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Posted by Geoff Beck on March 12, 2005, 06:53 PM | #

BTW: Check out the new Mexican gang, ex-military types operating on U.S. soil:

The Zeta Gang

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Posted by Geoff Beck on March 12, 2005, 06:56 PM | #

Svy:

I’m glad you share your perpectives. I’m certainy not sure how it will all play out… but like Phil said, the good days are coming to an end.

In a strange way I am curious: will it end with a bang or a whimper?

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Posted by Svigor on March 12, 2005, 06:56 PM | #

Then again, Chinese prosperity opens the door to exacerbated intraSino fractures along ethnic lines.  China ain’t homogenous.

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Posted by Phil Peterson on March 12, 2005, 06:58 PM | #

“I ***think*** Kevin MacDonald speculates that the US will be managed(governed) by Jewish business elites teamed with Asian technocrats and engineers.”

If Jews need chinese help to resttle, they wont be worth much in terms of strategic importance.

If they form the ruling class in the US, they wont need resttlement. Which is why Jewish resttlement in Taiwan (or anywhere in Asia) is a non-starter.

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Posted by Phil Peterson on March 12, 2005, 08:04 PM | #

“What makes you think not?”

By then the Nuclear club will be significantly larger than it is now. If they use Nukes, other nations will retaliate.

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Posted by Phil Peterson on March 12, 2005, 08:05 PM | #

“Then again, Chinese prosperity opens the door to exacerbated intraSino fractures along ethnic lines.  China ain’t homogenous.”

It will be (will be? is!) a lot more homogenous than America!

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Posted by Stuka on March 12, 2005, 08:38 PM | #

I find these predictions much too pessimistic. If (when) there is civil war, nothing indicates that whites wouldn’t prevail. A lot can happen in 45 years, and it is more than likely, if history is any guide, that Euro-Americans will find the courage & will to reconquer their country by then.

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Posted by Svigor on March 12, 2005, 08:47 PM | #

By then the Nuclear club will be significantly larger than it is now.

That’s probably so (by “other” I assume you mean Arab nations).  Still, I wouldn’t dismiss the idea of Israel using the egg tactically and brandishing the strategic threat for any escalation.  (i.e., Israel nukes the invading armies and threatens to nuke Arab cities if nuked herself).

It will be (will be? is!) a lot more homogenous than America!

Granted, but that doesn’t guarantee that what are currently Chinese provinces won’t eventually seek to become Chinese nations.

America was founded by essentially one nation and ethnicity.  China has always been a somewhat factious conglomerate.

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Posted by John S Bolton on March 12, 2005, 10:09 PM | #

I would say that policies to increase intercommunal conflict over the next fifteen years will be exploited by ambitious Democratic presidents to start a civil war on a racial ethnic basis. This gives them the excuse for dictatorship which they haven’t had so far, and none or almost none of it, will be spontaneous. Those who oppose the tyranny will be said to be not serious about responding to the national emergency. Once the despotism is set up, the minorities become useless baggage to be partitioned off into places like the Imperial valley, South Texas, and so on. The racial and ethnic warfare is fanned to the point where officials get all the power that they want; then they decide to solve their problem by partitioning them off. Evidence for this is the interaction of the quota and mass third world immigration policies, which together cause racial and ethnic conflict to increase every year. This builds the conflicts up to a peak level, which has to be intentional, and the downleg off that peak is the dictatorship and partition phase. Those who set these policies do not have the minorities interest at heart and never did. The reason it will turn out differently, and violently, here would be because the country is institutionally and otherwise most resistant to any milder way of sliding into dictatorship.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on March 12, 2005, 10:47 PM | #

”[...T]he interaction of the quota and mass third world immigration policies [...] together cause racial and ethnic conflict to increase every year. This builds the conflicts up to a peak level, which has to be intentional [...]”  (—John S. Bolton)

That this is intentional has to be right, of course.  You can’t institute anti-white quotas that flagrantly give in-your-face preferences to non-whites over whites in hiring, promotions, university places, and so on (in the name, supposedly, of “anti-racism”), and at the same time very aggressively force the admission of ever more non-whites into the country with no end in sight (so that non-whites end up displacing and, finally, replacing whites), all the while brutally suppressing any and all criticism whatsoever by whites of what’s going on, of what’s being done to them in their own country—you can’t do all that and not expect strong resentment to build among whites, resentment so strong that violence is not out of the question.  Bolton’s right, here.  There can be no other way of looking at it, than that it’s deliberate.  Yes, of course, it goes without saying there are, among whites, dupes and useful idiots galore who support this stuff—the typical woman voter, for example, and many kinds of Jimmy-Carter-type Christians, and so forth.  But hidden all the way behind the curtains are individuals who know exactly what’s going on who are doing this stuff on purpose with nefarious aims.

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Posted by Geoff Beck on March 12, 2005, 11:24 PM | #

John S.:

to increase intercommunal conflict over the next fifteen years will be exploited by ambitious Democratic presidents to start a civil war on a racial ethnic basis. This gives them the excuse for dictatorship…

Very plausible.

Look how quickly they rammed the PATRIOT ACT through congress. Look for PATRIOT ACT II after the next explosion. The public is so gullible.

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Posted by Geoff Beck on March 12, 2005, 11:52 PM | #

White Agitation

. Well it is a beginning. Scroll down for photos.

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Posted by Steve Edwards on March 13, 2005, 02:47 AM | #

Scrooby has a very good point. I came to this conclusion about a year ago. It’s as true of Australia (my country) and Britain as it is of America.

My theory is that the ultimate aim of the intellectuals is to destroy western civilisation. This is seen as an end in itself, of which the virtue is held to be self evident. As their position is based on pure self-hatred, it is impossible to have any dialogue with such people. Nevertheless, it is important to study their tactics.

There are many ways of achieving the destruction of western civilisation. One way was to hand enormous powers over to the UN (which I will get to later). Another way was through the feminist movement, in which the implicit goal was to abolish the nuclear family. By deliberately undermining family formation, and in the process unleashing a wave of crime and drugs, the foundations of our (Anglo-US-Aust) society was severely shaken, and the birth rate collapsed.

As the birth rate collapsed, the disloyal intellectuals came up with a plan for population replacement - multiculturalism - which was enthusiastically adopted by the political class. While birth control and abortion was praised as a means to keep the population down (at the behest of “environmentalism), the political class introduced mass immigration.

This time, and unlike previous waves of immigration, the elites explicitly told new migrants that they should not try to assimilate into the mainstream. Programmes were set up to encourage “separate development”, including lingual balkanisation. It was stressed that “diversity” was to be “celebrated”, so therefore importing millions of people who are ethno-culturally different from the existing cultural majority, is a good thing.

It is quite fashionable for the commentariat (particularly Mark Steyn) to point out that feminism and multiculturalism are in conflict - you know, genital mutilation, forcing women to wear the burkha, etc.

The truth is that feminism and multiculturalism are two complementary tactics in an overall strategy. It matters not that they are philosophically inconsistent, because the elites are not doing this because of philosophy per se. It is a strategy with an overall purpose:

Suppress the birth rate, destroy the nuclear family, replace the population. Repeat to logical conclusion.

The Japanese elites were too patriotic to adopt such a pernicious plan.

However, I think there are other things at play here. Multiculturalism (which necessarily means expunging the West) is also a blue-print for global government. By getting westerners used to eschewing their own history and accept mass numbers of non-westerners, people eventually cease to see their own country as a distinct entity. Combine this with the increasing subversion of national sovereignty through an entangling mass of UN treaties, and global government (which will never be limited government) is only a few steps away.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on March 13, 2005, 06:35 AM | #

Steve Edwards, you’ve got it.  You’ve hit the nail on the head.  Something along precisely the lines you summarize is what’s going on.  The élites running the show know all about it, but haven’t told us, for the same reason the family of a patient who’s just been diagnosed with a terminal illness don’t tell him he’s to die in six months.  What good would it do?  Let the poor guy live his remaining days in hope.  Because the élites aren’t talking—their lips are sealed tight shut—we can’t be certain of their reasons for actively going about killing us and now consigning the near-corpse to the morgue, but can only try to reconstruct what their reasoning must have been when the decision to do this was made, back probably somewhere in the 70s.

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Posted by Jay on March 13, 2005, 04:23 PM | #

I didn’t read this all, but what I can assure you of is that we’ll be minorities around 2035, not 2050.

In 2002, 59% of the USA’s births were to Whites. 59%!

‘nuff said. Western Civilization, at least for now, is dead. The liberals have won.

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Posted by Jay on March 13, 2005, 04:37 PM | #

I found it. It was actually 57, not 59%, of births that were to White women! Those of you who talk about doomsday in 2050 are too optomistic.

Percentage of births reported to White women, 2002:

1.Vermont – 95.99
2.West Virginia – 95.35
3.Maine – 94.79
4.New Hampshire – 87.87
5.Iowa – 87.09
6.Kentucky – 86.31
7.Wyoming – 84.58
8.North Dakota – 83.78
9.Idaho – 81.42
10.Montana – 81.16
11.Utah – 80.38
12.Indiana – 79.80
13.Ohio – 79.34
14.Missouri – 78.51
15.Wisconsin – 78.50
16.South Dakota – 78.30
17.Minnesota – 77.54
18.Pennsylvania – 76.04
19.Nebraska – 75.33
20.Kansas – 75.01
21.Oregon – 72.91
22.Massachusetts – 72.31
23.Michigan – 72.20
24.Tennessee – 71.39
25.Arkansas – 69.45
26.Oklahoma – 68.21
27.Washington – 67.55
28.Connecticut – 65.92
29.Alabama – 63.43
30.Virginia – 61.90
31.Colorado – 61.18
32.North Carolina – 59.86
33.Delaware – 59.77
34.South Carolina – 59.01
35.Rhode Island – 57.05
36.Arizona – 55.73
37.Illinois – 55.00
38.Louisiana – 54.61
39.New Jersey – 53.80
40.Maryland – 53.32
41.Mississippi – 52.38
42.New York – 51.78
43.Georgia – 51.21
44.Florida – 49.76
45.Nevada – 48.01
46.Alaska – 44.55
47.Texas – 36.95
48.New Mexico – 31.56
49.California – 31.10
50.District of Columbia – 23.11
51.Hawaii – 18.31
USA = 57.14

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr52/nvsr52_10t12.pdf

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Posted by Phil Peterson on March 13, 2005, 05:45 PM | #

Jay,

You are of course right. Id say the date should be moved to 2025 based on the evidence we have now.

The 2050 date was proposed in the early nineties. Things have changed (accelerated) drastically since then.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on March 13, 2005, 06:02 PM | #

I agree with Jay that the date is somewhere around 2035, definitely not 2050.  The date may be sooner than 2035.

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Posted by Phil Peterson on March 13, 2005, 06:06 PM | #

Fred,

I wonder what percentage of white Americans know this.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on March 13, 2005, 06:46 PM | #

Dunno, Phil—even the 2050 prediction is only ever brought up publicly (the rare times it is) for the purpose of educating the public to believe that Bush’s deliberate policy of race-replacement immigration is an unstoppable force of nature like the ocean tides, volcanos exploding, or earthquakes toppling cities.  Government is preparing people for it by telling them how they must start right now psychologically adapting to this “unavoidable” demographic change which cannot be stopped by any power on earth (sort of the way they’d be expected to talk if a moon-sized meteor were discovered through telescopes to be hurtling unstoppably toward our planet) by (in words to this effect) accepting the new minority status of whites, accepting multiculturalism, not trying to fight it, seeing the greatness and beauty in these non-white cultures and ways of life, and so on.  Of course what isn’t said is that the whole thing, far from being a force of nature, is completely stoppable—could be stopped dead in its tracks in about five minutes through the adoption of about a dozen-and-a-half extremely simple policy measures.  Put me in charge and I’ll have it not only stopped in five minutes but the direction of flow reversed, so that by the year 2035 we’d have not only no “minority status for whites” nonsense but something approaching the exact racial/ethnic proportions we had in this country in 1965 before the Kennedy-Celler Immigration Holocaust bill got passed—AND—the whole thing done humanely, inflicting genuine undue hardship on absolutely no one.

Anyone who can’t see this race-replacement is all being done deliberately is a blind fool.

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Posted by Phil Peterson on March 13, 2005, 06:55 PM | #

“Put me in charge and I’ll have it not only stopped in five minutes but the direction of flow reversed, so that by the year 2035 we’d have not only no “minority status for whites” nonsense but something approaching the exact racial/ethnic proportions we had in this country in 1965 before the Kennedy-Celler Immigration Holocaust bill got passed—AND—the whole thing done humanely, inflicting genuine undue hardship on absolutely no one.”

HOW?

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on March 13, 2005, 08:19 PM | #

“HOW?”  (—Phil Peterson)

For starters, take the Mexican illegal problem in the States:  It’s an absolute no-brainer to compile various short little lists of measures that could easily be adopted which would make 80% of the twenty-five to thirty million Mexican illegals in this country deport themselves back to Mexico without all of them needing to be arduously “rounded up in police rai

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on March 13, 2005, 08:49 PM | #

[Sorry—I tried to post a longer comment but ran into the length limit.  I shortened it but still too long.  If I may, I’ll post this shortened version in two parts.  Part I:]
___________________________________

“HOW?”  (—Phil Peterson)

For starters, take the Mexican illegal problem in the States:  It’s an absolute no-brainer to compile various little lists of measures that could easily be adopted which would make 80% of the twenty-five to thirty million Mexican illegals in this country deport themselves back to Mexico without all of them needing to be arduously “rounded up in police raids and deported.”  They’d slip back across the border on their own, the same way they slipped in.  Last summer in Houston, Texas, the mere rumor of an imminent raid by the feds, which had mysteriously (the rumor was false) shot like a bolt of lightning through the Mexican illegal community, sent them scurrying to hiding places, totally emptying the construction sites of workers, and that means totally.  There wasn’t a single Mexican worker at any site, not one.  The Anglo foremen were livid—no work got done.  Houston was literally emptied of visible illegals in five minutes and that was just a single false rumor!  Imagine the effect of just a very few actual, well-planned federal raids on illegals in perhaps just a few well-chosen cities in the U.S.! 

Here’s

a list of some simple measures of that kind which could be taken, measures which by themselves would go a very long way toward making illegals deport themselves without anyone having to lift a finger to round them up and deport them.  I’ve seen several such lists.  They’re all similar, easy to compose, and could not fail to have the desired effect were they implemented.

The remaining measures include ones discussed here and elsewhere many times:  taking steps to increase the white birth rate (which I think is the most important of all, sort of the sine qua non of a nation’s preserving its traditional racial identity, which ought to be easy to accomplish despite the frequent claims to the contrary by the nay-sayers on this topic), doing away with affirmative-action preferences for non-whites, making welfare hard or impossible for immigrants to obtain for their first X-number of years in this country (the current set-up in effect actually pays non-whites to come here, and to stay even if they’re having difficulties and regrets—obviously that has to be stopped!), scrapping the faulty “anchor-baby” interpretation of the XIVth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution (the Republic of Ireland scrapped its own version of that nation-destroying nonsense not long ago, the people voting it out in a referendum by something like four to one!), following Lawrence Auster’s oft-repeated advice to make it plain to all and sundry that the U.S. is NOT a “proposition nation” but is one with an actual historical racial/ethnocultural identity which it intends to preserve and it has no intention of according equal status to alien races, ethnicities, or ethnocultures whatsoever—a policy that would, were it adopted, make coming here seem less and less attractive for racially/culturally incompatible peoples just as the opposite policy makes it less and less attractive for native whites to remain in their own country, and would eventually not only help stop the flow of incompatibles but would cause the flow to reverse, with net outward migration of them (consider the white flight from Holland ever since alien peoples and cultures have been accorded primacy over the native whites there—the opposite policy would draw the natives back and send the incompatibles fleeing to destinations they’d see as more congenial to their kind), immediately restore the national origins immigration rules that were in effect in the U.S. from 1924 to the 1965, offer generous financial compensation packages to incompatibles and their families to return to where they came from where their numbers here are excessive, and so on.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on March 13, 2005, 08:50 PM | #

[Part II]
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Lists of ways to stop race-replacement from worsening, and then to begin a reversal of the demographic damage already done, are not hard to draw up.  What can be done can be undone.  It’s that simple. 

Were it not that simple, does anyone think the other side would get so hysterical every time anyone came near saying in public what we’re saying here at MajorityRights.com?  There’d be absolutely no need.  It would be like someone claiming to be able to stop the tides, earthquakes, and volcanos:  he’d be completely ignored, or laughed at.  What need would there be to threaten him with prison, to raid his home at dawn and hold him in custody for questioning, or to call him vile names to sully his reputation among decent people? 

By their extreme, hysterical agitation every time we get close to this topic the other side gives the game away—what they are up to can easily be brought screeching to a halt (if but the will to do it be there!).

In all of this, the most important thing is:  the white birth-rate collapse has to be reversed by removal of all obstacles, direct or indirect, to white couples having babies.  (Direct obstacles include, of course, things like tax policy in a thousand ways, and women’s lib propaganda, and government protection and promotion of homosexualism; indirect ways include such things as high crime rates and deterioration of public schools as a result of excessive incompatible immigration causing young white couples to put off starting a family until they can afford to move to a better neighborhood, and so on.)  Birth rates where all obstacles are removed are naturally quite robust.

This can all be done if people demand it.

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Posted by Geoff Beck on March 13, 2005, 09:08 PM | #

Fred, there’s nothing left to do but watch the clock tick down, its over. Oh sure, they’ll be fights, but the battle is over.

Folks:

The information Jay shared is truly shocking. The reality must be understood and dealt with.

(1) I’d save every dollar possible.

You’ll need it to pay bribes, that is how things are done in the 3rd world.

(2) Purchase *some* gold bullion coins, like Kruggerands and American Eagles.

You’ll need this to hedge against the inflated dollars you hold, inflation is a fact in the 3rd world.

(3) Now that assualt weopan’s ban expired I’d purchase a good rifle, and a few 9MM’s

Violence and police incompetence is a staple of life in the 3rd world. Get used to it.

These seem the most basic things. I wouldn’t waste your money purchasing stocks, fancy electronics, and all that crap advertised on TV. You’ll need that cash in the future.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on March 13, 2005, 09:47 PM | #

Incidentally, while we’re on the subject, I guess—judging from

the following article

—the Third World hasn’t heard, yet, how “impossible” it is to get illegals to deport themselves:  hey I could be wrong, but ... it sure looks like Malaysia will have the job done in about ... five minutes ...

“The Malaysian authorities are expected to launch a massive operation to arrest and deport illegal immigrants after an amnesty deadline expired.  The deadline allowing undocumented foreigners to depart without penalty expired at midnight (1600 GMT).  [This took place last month.]  Thousands of illegal immigrants queued at ports and airports, hoping to leave before the operation started.  Illegal workers are now liable to long jail terms, fines of thousands of dollars and whipping with a cane.  Thousands of police and civilian volunteers have been drafted into a campaign to round up foreigners without the right papers.  Officers will be inspecting building sites, plantations, factories, restaurants and even private homes with domestic servants to try to arrest them.  Illegal immigrants are widely blamed for rising crime.  But human rights groups say the participation of so many civilians in the round-ups, some of them carrying firearms, could easily lead to accidents and abuses, says the BBC’s Jonathan Kent in Kuala Lumpur.  Estimates have put the number of undocumented foreign workers in Malaysia at up to one-and-a-half million.”

Looks like we could take a few lessons from the Third World.  I mean—correct me if I’m wrong, but ... when they want to get something done, it sure looks like they don’t fool around.  They just go out and do it ... 

(Hey if they can do it, why can’t WE???  Oh yeah!  I almost forgot!  I almost forgot about the special ray-gun aimed only at the United States and Europe from that satellite orbiting the earth, whose rays keep any country they strike from getting illegals to go home!  Gee, I sure wish the leaders of the planet Zorg in the Beta-Andromeda Galaxy hadn’t put that satellite in orbit around the earth and aimed it at us!  Why couldn’t they have aimed it at the Malaysians instead???  But for that, we’d have had this illegals problem licked by now!  I guess we’re sunk!  Those Malaysian lucky-stiffs!)

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Posted by Geoff Beck on March 13, 2005, 10:46 PM | #

Oh, the problem is easily remedied, Fred. But our elites and the State itself has betrayed us: The Betrayal of the Nation by the State.

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Posted by Geoff Beck on March 13, 2005, 11:33 PM | #

Phil:

Fred is right, getting rid of the Mexicans is very simple.

1) Fine the employers.

2) Many illegals use fake or duplicate Social Security numbers. The IRS knows this, in their DB, they can be found very easily.

3) Once the Mexicans know the game is up, they go home.

4) Of course if the U.S. shot a few smugglers, that would help.

It’s a matter of will power. Our elites don’t care. That is why I have no allegiance to the state. Unless a restoration is performed, all will be lost.

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Posted by seelow heights on March 13, 2005, 11:53 PM | #

In 2002, 59% of the USA’s births were to Whites. 59%!
You have to ask yourself:what percentage of the fathers were nonwhite?

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on March 14, 2005, 12:17 AM | #

That’s a good point, Seelow.  So, the proportion of unmixed whites (not mixed race, God bless ‘em!) may actually already be below 50%.  Well ... at least Ben “the-U.S.-is-the-first-Proposition-Nation” Wattenberg will be happy.  Happy!  What am I saying!  The guy’ll be ECSTATIC!

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Posted by Steve Edwards on March 14, 2005, 08:55 AM | #

I think you are all dwelling on race, as if that were the issue determining the strategy of the elites.

This is not about race, it’s about power and the construction of a global despotism. The reason why the elites are targeting the West is straightforward - which of all the countries in the world have retained an unbroken chain of high (by world standards) governmental legitimacy and personal freedom?

The answer is the Anglosphere. The English speaking peoples of the world are the only to have avoided despotism in the last two to three centuries. This is because of their freedom-loving traditions - and is reinforced by the tendency of the Anglosphere to inhabit the most geographically secure regions of the world - far from the reach of Asiatic tyrannies.

Thus, in order to abolish the West and create a colossal world-wide state with unlimited powers, it was first necessary to target the people themselves. As the people would never vote for the UN’s tyrannical agenda at an election, the globalists resolved to elect a new people.

The way to elect a new people was by destroying public education and brainwashing the young, collapsing the fertility rate, and promoting mass immigration among populations that are culturally distinct from Anglo-Celtic society. By promoting lingual and cultural balkanisation, the process of fragmenting the territory of the freedom-loving peoples could progress.

More recently, we have seen a major shift in patterns of statecraft. For example, the majority of wars throughout the 20th century were betweeen nation-states. Nowadays, most wars are civil. This has midwifed a massive extension in the mandate of the UN. Along with turning the US (and the UN) into world police with alleged interests in every ancient intractable tribal dispute on all four corners of the earth, the UN now purports to rule the citizens of nation-states directly.

The International Criminal Court has been set up for precisely this reason. The UN is working to introduce a global tax, a rapid response force, and a world health bureaucracy. Even worse, the UN is attempting to regulate the internet.

Proud, vibrant, independent, free peoples would never accept such abominable developments. However, by undermining the self-esteem (and self-defence) of the West, and playing on misguided feelings of colonial guilt, the bastards are getting away with it.

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Posted by Steve Edwards on March 14, 2005, 09:08 AM | #

By the way, another way the elites get away with their deception is by drafting “dissidents” to their cause and creating a mirage of public debate. So you have Noam Chomsky and Gore Vidal vitriolically condemning George Bush for “seeking to control the world” and providing a means by which discontent can be channelled, but only so far.

And when pressed about their “alternative vision” for the world which is apparently oh-so-different from “the Establishment”, what do Noam Chomsky and Gore Vidal recommend? They call for a massive extension in the powers of the UN, and spending billions of taxpayer dollars on colossal UN bureaucracies to eradicate the problems of the world. Gore Vidal was on Australian TV the other day decrying Bush “the despot” for waging illegal wars.

Yet in the next breath he gave his support to Clinton’s illegal bombing of Serbia! Oh, I only support humanitarian wars, said Vidal, not evil imperialist wars that impose our worldview on other people. I don’t know if Vidal was too stupid to notice the irony. Perhaps he is just being deliberately deceptive.

So the Left is in the bag of the CFR elitists.

What happened to the Right? Through a neat machiavellian trick, Bush hoodwinked the Right into becoming stronger supporters of the UN than the Left. Rather than bagging the UN and calling for America’s withdrawal, as the Right often did in the 1990s, Bush flipped the debate around - now you have conservatives bemoaning the UN’s ineffectiveness, and calling for “UN reform”. “If the UN won’t enforce its own decisions, America will have to do so instead!” has become the “conservative” catch-cry.

By invading Iraq, Bush has neutralised the Right and the Left. Everybody has found themselves inadvertently supporting “global governance”, even if their posturing doesn’t reveal as much immediately.

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Posted by Stuka on March 14, 2005, 10:23 AM | #

Gore Vidal has proposed, in one of his essays, the creation of a “Northern Confederacy” of white nations in North America, Europe, and Russia.

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Posted by Effra on March 14, 2005, 11:04 AM | #

Steve Edwards: “The English speaking peoples of the world are the only to have avoided despotism in the last two to three centuries.”

Not entirely. The USA was despotically governed by Abraham Lincoln, and those states which legally and quietly seceded from it were coerced back by what was then the bloodiest war in human history, during which a military dictatorship was in force in the North.

The only countries which have enjoyed peace, stability *and* rising prosperity throughout the past 300 years are in the British Isles and in Scandinavia, where secessions have occurred without bloodshed (Norway, Iceland). All are peopled by Northern European Caucasoid races with ancient traditions of tribal unification, limited monarchy and representative deliberation: the Althing, Tynwald, Alfred the Great, etc.

The original USA—the one that Lincoln killed—was predominantly settled by this kind of European, not by Mediterraneans or even Teutons, let alone Jews and Mexican mischlings. The ‘propositional nation’ is a preposterous retro-fiction to excuse the abominations practised on the body of the Federal costitution since 1860. The only grain of truth in it is that the Founders felt it necessary to dignify their rebellious reinvention of the UK in the language of 18C Enlightenment philosophes and deists, more’s the pity.

The USA of George Washington was a lightly governed polity of white, mostly English and Scotch gentlemen and professional men. It was neither democratic nor inherently secular, except at the Federal level. Its president was a more limited (esp., though not statutorily, term-limited) 18C sovereign. He had a cabinet of cronies like the Hanoverian kings, wielding a modest control over a collection of nations like the United Kingdom. But the states retained more powers than Scotland or Ireland—as was necessary, given their history and remoteness from the Capitol. The states did not receive their powers from Washington; they surrendered some to it voluntarily and reversibly.

All this was as far from the centralised, kritarchical, warfare/welfare rogue nation of 2005 as can well be imagined.

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Posted by Geoff Beck on March 14, 2005, 11:25 AM | #

Effra:

Whether with a bang or a whimper the U.S. is sinking into Third World status, pulled down by Mexico. Of course, I would be willing to sacrifice, even my life, if others would fight - a sort of Alamo type thing. We will have to see what happens. My life is not such a big deal, if it is lost in a worthy cause - Iraq of course isn’t such a cause.

What is really important is Europe. The arms and legs of the European civilization may be cut off - but if the brain dies…. everything is lost.

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Posted by Geoff Beck on March 14, 2005, 04:02 PM | #

I’ve been sent an email questioning my nightmare scenario.

Much of my thesis rests on the collapse of discipline in the U.S. Military. The collapse is caused by: (1) retreat from the Middle East, (2) infiltration of the U.S. Military by Mexican nationalists, (3) collapse of the White-Euro officer class.

A demoralized army cannot win, despite have terrific hardware, weapons, and etc…

Look at the Roman Legions in the 3rd and 4th Centuries. The empire was comprised of millions of souls, yet they couldn’t scrap together enough men to defeat the Germans at Adrianople and Chalons.

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Posted by Steve Edwards on March 15, 2005, 04:02 AM | #

I’m pretty sure the French civil war 1792-4 was just as bloody as Lincoln vs Davis.

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Posted by Effra on March 15, 2005, 08:40 AM | #

Steve: The War Between the States killed 500,000 men. More than in WW2, and far more than France suffered at home and abroad during the Revolutionary period (1789-94).

The American war killed the republic of 1776, whose body has since been occupied by a bloodthirsty impostor.

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Posted by Andrew L on March 18, 2005, 03:51 AM | #

If Australia Declares war on the USA, and we start the invasion NOW, It might just turn around the prediction, and prolong the future anthropological disasters a head, hope they have enough beer, and welcome the new occupiers, mid you we have some weeding here to do, but look foward to conquring a once great nation,If we do’nt some other nasties will, and then we will have to become nastier.

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Posted by Andrew L on March 18, 2005, 04:18 AM | #

Hay Fred, I think Malaya are not quite the lucky stiffs yet, Recalsitrant as one scumbag treasurer had stated, And just as well we don’t live in Africa, we would be lynched, ethnically cleansed even, oo Yeh , I forgot, only Anglos do that, every one else is cleaning out the cupboards and like throwing out the crapp.

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Posted by Matt M. on May 12, 2006, 01:00 PM | #

I think this world will go to hell just like this, but with a couple of nuclear holocosts in between.  It sounds fine to me though, I’ll just join another country.  Screw the U. S. Anyways

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Posted by mike on November 20, 2007, 01:09 AM | #

In the 1950s and 60s, the phemonenon of white flight began. To refresh the memories of those of you who for got what this means, it refers to the mass exodus of whites from major cities to suburbia. Conditions in large American cities were becoming impossible for whites. This created a white suburban bulwark. This was a process particular to cities, where conditions were deteriorating. Something much larger and more disconcerting is happening today. Approximately 100,000 caucasions are leaving California per year. Hundreds of thousands of whites are leaving the Northeast and settling in the mid-Atlantic states. (Virginia, Carolinas, etc) White Flight is now a matter of state and regional exodus. As conditions worsen for European Americans, will a nation-wide exodus begin? Will there be anywhere left to go? What a shame Huh!

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Posted by Les on October 20, 2008, 10:14 AM | #

Please don’t breed. We’ve had enough wastes of flash born in this country so far.

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Posted by Zmaze on November 08, 2010, 05:07 AM | #

I can’t believe so many of you are validating this.  Even if America has a minority of whites in 2050, why does that constitute countrywide destruction?  In the 19th century, Irish and Italian immigrants were considered “black” by many whites because they were different.  People believed they would destroy the country, but now would you think twice serving an Irishman in a restaurant, or giving him a job opportunity, or even acknowledging his self-worth?

It’s far more likely mixed race families will be the majority and the backbone of this country and most whites will come to accept that as normal if they haven’t already become mixed themselves.  America’s greatness comes from its open-minded and optimistic virtues.  Don’t give in to this racist pessimism.

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Posted by Grasshopper_Shana901 on November 08, 2010, 05:32 AM | #

You all are a bunch of cry babies.  If you can’t stand toe to toe with a Mexican or a black or an Asian and get the job, then you’re just a bunch of white trash pussies.  Quit blaming “affirmative blacktion” and take a look at yourself.  You can’t get the job because your DNA doesn’t want to get passed on—it’s weeding itself out.  It’s equal opportunity now, bitches, so let the social darwinism begin. 

P.S. I’m sick of you neo-nazi fuckers always preaching a bunch of bullshit about racial purity.  The best dog at the pounds the mutt, pure and simple.

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Posted by Irish Anti-Commie on November 10, 2010, 02:08 PM | #

I’m sick of you neo-nazi fuckers always preaching a bunch of bullshit about racial purity.  The best dog at the pounds the mutt, pure and simple.

Whites are generally better looking than mutts and other races. Attractive mulattoes and mestizos inherit their good looks from white ancestry.

It is is obvious the white race is superior in looks and intelligence by the black and brown races insistence on demanding miscegenation. Their women are generally uglier and less intelligent then white women. Sorry, but the truth hurts.

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Posted by Gudmund on November 10, 2010, 05:11 PM | #

You all are a bunch of cry babies.  If you can’t stand toe to toe with a Mexican or a black or an Asian and get the job, then you’re just a bunch of white trash pussies.

Whites outperform two of three of those on average, stupid.  As for Asians, they can be intelligent and such but their accomplishments pale in comparison to those of our race, from a historical standpoint.  The reason they excel today is because the present situation selects for conscientiousness rather than genius.

Quit blaming “affirmative blacktion” and take a look at yourself.  You can’t get the job because your DNA doesn’t want to get passed on—it’s weeding itself out.  It’s equal opportunity now, bitches, so let the social darwinism begin.

It isn’t “equal opportunity” nor is it “social darwinism”, stupid.  It is organized dysgenics.

P.S. I’m sick of you neo-nazi fuckers always preaching a bunch of bullshit about racial purity.  The best dog at the pounds the mutt, pure and simple.

Once again you lose, stupid.  The most genetically heterogeneous lands, i.e. India, Central Asia, North Africa, South America, produce the least robust specimens of humanity.  Mutts are a confused and inferior breed.  Deal with it.

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Posted by Dasein on November 10, 2010, 06:06 PM | #

The best dog at the pounds the mutt, pure and simple.

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Posted by Jimmy Marr on November 10, 2010, 06:32 PM | #

The best dog at the pounds the mutt, pure and simple.

Shall we infer then, that a simple mutt might also benefit from a pure poundin’?

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Posted by Irish Anti-Commie on November 11, 2010, 02:12 PM | #

The best dog at the pounds the mutt, pure and simple.

A mutt may be simple but it certainly isn’t pure. A pure mutt is an oxymoron. Mutt is derived from an abbreviation of mutton-head meaning a dull and stupid person. Mutts aren’t the best at anything except stupidity.

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Posted by Stuart on February 16, 2012, 10:39 PM | #

I believe it will take all of us too get to the stars.  Someday I hope people don’t judge about anything.  We all at the end of the day want to be free, and just live our lives.  The world governments and bankers are against all of us, so we must fight back.  Vote Ron Paul 2012.

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Posted by James Bond Disgruntled Postal Worker on November 14, 2012, 03:05 PM | #

We have nothing to fear! Alex Jones and black Americans will save whites out of thanks for making America tolerant and diverse!

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Posted by Tony on November 16, 2012, 12:03 AM | #

I think projections of non-hispanic whites becoming minority by 2050 is old prediction. The new predictions say it will happen in 2042. That;‘s now the majority expert opinion. Also some experts think it can happen much earlier. Also I will like to point out as racial differences are getting increasingly obliterated and a mixed race population rises ,what is likely to happen is an increase in mixed marriages,and a phasing out of the already not so watertight one drop rule. We may see that non hispanic whites make up about 50% oh American populace by 2040 and those 50% will be significantly mixed themselves. Something like 15% or so of their genes will be non-european. This seems to me to be a very reasonable non-biased guess.
You have got to factor not just the low non-hispanic white birth rate,but also illegal and legal immigration, smaller fertile age people in white population, and you have to shave a good one tenth of white birth rate as even white mothers having a mixed race brown kid is counted inside the ‘white’ fertility rate.

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