1m Christians sign EU religion plea

1m Christians sign EU religion plea.

The Parable of the Prodigal Son
Luke 15

11: And he said, “There was a man who had two sons;
12: and the younger of them said to his father, `Father, give me the share of property that falls to me.’ And he divided his living between them.
13: Not many days later, the younger son gathered all he had and took his journey into a far country, and there he squandered his property in loose living.
14: And when he had spent everything, a great famine arose in that country, and he began to be in want.
15: So he went and joined himself to one of the citizens of that country, who sent him into his fields to feed swine.
16: And he would gladly have fed on the pods that the swine ate; and no one gave him anything.
17: But when he came to himself he said, `How many of my father’s hired servants have bread enough and to spare, but I perish here with hunger!
18: I will arise and go to my father, and I will say to him, “Father, I have sinned against heaven and before you;
19: I am no longer worthy to be called your son; treat me as one of your hired servants.”’
20: And he arose and came to his father. But while he was yet at a distance, his father saw him and had compassion, and ran and embraced him and kissed him.
21: And the son said to him, `Father, I have sinned against heaven and before you; I am no longer worthy to be called your son.’
22: But the father said to his servants, `Bring quickly the best robe, and put it on him; and put a ring on his hand, and shoes on his feet;
23: and bring the fatted calf and kill it, and let us eat and make merry;
24: for this my son was dead, and is alive again; he was lost, and is found.’ And they began to make merry.
25: “Now his elder son was in the field; and as he came and drew near to the house, he heard music and dancing.
26: And he called one of the servants and asked what this meant.
27: And he said to him, `Your brother has come, and your father has killed the fatted calf, because he has received him safe and sound.’
28: But he was angry and refused to go in. His father came out and entreated him,
29: but he answered his father, `Lo, these many years I have served you, and I never disobeyed your command; yet you never gave me a kid, that I might make merry with my friends.
30: But when this son of yours came, who has devoured your living with harlots, you killed for him the fatted calf!’
31: And he said to him, `Son, you are always with me, and all that is mine is yours.
32: It was fitting to make merry and be glad, for this your brother was dead, and is alive; he was lost, and is found.’”

Posted by leslie on Thursday, November 25, 2004 at 12:25 PM in Christianity
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Posted by Guessedworker on November 25, 2004, 01:39 PM | #

“An EU official said: “These Christians could at least have the good grace to accept that they lost the argument.”

Well, this individual is redefining his terms. He is casting cultural heritage, which self-evidently applies to all the indigenous peoples of western Europe, as faith - which doesn’t. It’s a neat trick. But it is a trick.

Of course, his alternative is to acknowledge that “these Christians” are speaking for the whole European family. Which they are, actually.

This brings us to the question as to why the EU body politic wishes to eliminate our heritage from the Constitution. Their own sniffy, intellectual elitism - of which Giscard is the world’s leading exponent - is one obvious reason. Their partiality for the liberal-minded, self-defined model of mankind is another. Their conviction that one must be inclusive to the non-Europeans living amongst us is a third. Their desire to create a Constitution which will serve Europe’s future of multiracialism and cultural relativism is another.

Posted by Rob Read on November 25, 2004, 02:53 PM | #

Anything that puts a wedge into our Bureaucratic Masters desire to impose the EUSSR con-stitution on us can only be a good thing.

As a Fundamentalist Atheist, I just hope they don’t cave in, put some religious stuff in there to placate god-botherers in exchange for imposing this now even worse governance of our lives!

Posted by Guessedworker on November 25, 2004, 03:03 PM | #

There you go, Rob.

Posted by Geoff M. Beck on November 25, 2004, 03:49 PM | #

Hello Rob Read:

I enjoyed reading your comment about being a “fundamentalist” atheist.

I found this quote by Enoch Powell:

“You said that Christ’s mission was directed to the poor…you instanced various healing actions: the opening of the eyes of the blind, the unstopping of the ears of the deaf, etc. Having noticed that, you omitted something else which Jesus did but which is not within the scope of the National Heath Service… - the raising of the dead.”

“What I am saying is that Christ’s mission to the blind, the poor, and all the rest is only another part of this mission to raise the dead; that as raising the dead is supernatural - religous if you like - so also is the healing mission of Christ, and that we are not imitating Christ, or fulfilling his commandments when we are engaged in healing anymore than when we are engaged in banking.”

You might agree that the socialized life in modern Britain is an attempt to imitate Christ? The bureaucracy and all the rest being the new priesthood?

So, I wonder how many are just living a faith, in a 2nd rate version of Christianity?

Also Europe is full of beautiful cathedrals. I wonder what the population must make of them - monuments to folly? After all, today, we are just so much wiser than those fools that believed in God(those fools being our ancestral blood). Why not just tear them down to make way for some new government service or a fast food restaurant - something useful; Perhaps a brothel or Dutch style “coffee” shop?

Posted by Rob Read on November 25, 2004, 04:40 PM | #

I think that a large number of “atheists” particularly of the left, have just replaced their belief in a benevolent almighty god, with a belief in a benevolent almighty state.

At least a “benevolent almighty god” cannot be ruled out by economic theory, whereas the “benevolent almighty state” can be proved impossible.

Posted by Geoff M. Beck on November 25, 2004, 05:25 PM | #

Good point.

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