“I thought Canada was a friendly country, un amigo”

Mexicans are now upset at Canada for its allegedly rough and racist treatment of Mexican arrivals.

...[F]or Mexicans such as Armando Andria, a 25-year-old systems engineer who was detained and sent back to Mexico in April of last year after flying into Toronto on vacation, the experience changed his view of Canada.

“I thought Canada was a friendly country, un amigo,” he told The Globe and Mail. “I had no idea they treated people in this way.”

On arrival at Lester B. Pearson International Airport, he was immediately accused of wanting to live permanently in Toronto.

“They accused me of lying and said I had no plans to return home,” Mr. Andria said. “They went through my suitcase and said I had a lot of clothing for a 15-day trip. They even went through all my toiletries looking for drugs. Finally, two immigration detention officers arrived, handcuffed me and took me to a detention centre, just like I was a criminal.

“I asked to be permitted to make a call and they wouldn’t let me,” Mr. Andria continued. “In the morning, two officials came back, told me I wasn’t allowed to enter Canada and must return to Mexico. They handcuffed me, put me in a van and took me back to the airport. I left at 8 p.m. that night on a flight back to Mexico City.

“I lost my vacation time and my money. I would have expected this from the U.S. but never from Canada. It would almost be better if Canada had a visa requirement for Mexicans. At least then the rules would be clearer.”

Ms. Molina, the psychologist who was sent home when she tried to visit Vancouver, has since found another way of getting together with her Canadian boyfriend. He moved to Mexico City to work and be with her. But she still hesitates to try her luck with Canada again.

“If we go visit his family,” she said, “I’m afraid they’ll do the same to me again.”

Mexicans Find A Rough Welcome Mat In Canada

But this cannot be right. According to Canadian conservatives (ie. USA fifth columnists), National Review, and Mark Steyn, Canuckistan is a wimpy, PC, Euro/UN- loving, liberal country unlike the patriotic, virile, and tough USA - “the West’s last hope”. I’m so confused!

Posted by Matra on Wednesday, August 8, 2007 at 02:58 PM in Canadian Politics
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Posted by Desmond Jones on August 08, 2007, 05:45 PM | #

Easy, Matra, we don’t want our good neighbour-to-the-south to prohibit those trips to the Walden Galleria Mall in Buffalo, not to mention those mouth-watering chicken wings that Duff’s so amply serves up to it’s adoring Canuck customers. And all that cheap booze and the cheese shop in Amherst.

God bless America! wink

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on August 08, 2007, 06:38 PM | #

If they can only keep it up, Desmond, and not buckle when the usual suspects start tightening the screws on them!

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Posted by Al Ross on August 08, 2007, 09:27 PM | #

Perhaps we ought to thank the Muslims for concentrating the minds of immigration officers. Recently my daughter, a Singapore-born (I’m a 27 year Far East expat veteran) UK passport holder was stopped at Heathrow Airport by an ethnic Indian UK immigration officer and asked why her passport was issued in Singapore. My daughter, a lawyer by profession and a race-realist, immigration restrictionist, smiled sweetly and said, “That’s where my Scottish father was working when I was born - so, of course, I’m British by descent”, emphasing the last three words very strongly.

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Posted by Matra on August 09, 2007, 01:00 AM | #

If they can only keep it up, Desmond, and not buckle when the usual suspects start tightening the screws on them!

The authorities backed down last week against Sikhs who were upset about Sikh immigrants being asked to change their names. All Sikhs are given the same name - Singh for boys something else for girls - and it’s caused confusion at Immigration Canada. They complained that many Canadians are called Smith and their not asked to come up with a new name. The authorities claimed they couldn’t tell them apart.

If Canada backed down in some way due to Mexican complaints it wouldn’t surprise me. (Both Mexico and the Bush Administration want Canada to take in more Mexicans). But at present the immigration situation, though bad, is not nearly as bad as in the US. Of course, US conservatives will continue to insult Canadians for their lack of manhood in failing to go to Iraq and for being soft on Muslims within Canada. As we know, establishment conservatives believe it is only Muslims we should be concerned about.

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Posted by Matra on August 09, 2007, 01:35 AM | #

Whites now a minority in 1 in 10 US counties

In northern Virginia, Teresita Jacinto said she feels less welcome today than when she first arrived 30 years ago, when she was one of few Hispanics in the area.

“Not only are we feeling less welcome, we are feeling threatened,” said Jacinto, a teacher in Woodbridge, Va., about 20 miles southwest of Washington.

Woodbridge is part of Prince William County, which recently passed a resolution seeking to deny public services to illegal immigrants. Similar measures have been approved or considered in dozens of communities across the nation. In all, state lawmakers have introduced more than 1,400 measures related to immigration this year, the National Conference of State Legislatures says.

Supporters say local laws are necessary because Congress has failed to crack down on the estimated 12 million illegal immigrants in the U.S. But many Hispanics legally in the U.S. say they feel targeted, too.

“I think across the board all of us feel like we’re not welcome,” said Jacinto, who was born in the U.S. and volunteers for an advocacy group called Mexicans Without Borders.

Born in Mexico but willing to volunteer for an overtly Mexican organisation.

She goes on:

“I don’t think Latinos or any other so-called minority group are seeking to make white people a minority,” Jacinto said. “It’s just a reality.”

And she’s helping make it a reality through her activism so she shouldn’t be surprised by American hostility. European Americans have been so weak in the past that she and other ethnic activists are surprised that there is any resistance to their demands. Canada must stand tall or be perceived as a pushover. It’s not as if anyone cares about being loved by Mexicans.

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Posted by Desmond Jones on August 09, 2007, 02:11 AM | #

You take it too hard, Matra. A portion of English Canada has always been wannabees. Before WWII they wanted to be Brits, subsequently they want to be Yankees. The Aussies were smart. They went to Iraq and stayed out of Afghanistan and suffered far fewer casualties because of it.

The Mexicans are pushovers ‘cause their numbers are small. However, don’t f**k with the Sikhs. Those boys are serious with a with an undeterable desire to ensure a Sikh becomes Canada’s first turban wearing PM. The CF will just get out of the Stan just in time for a trip to the Punjab.

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Posted by Guessedworker on August 09, 2007, 07:51 AM | #

From the Wikipedia entry on friendly Mexico, un amigo.

Immigration policy

Mexico had an extremely strict immigration law for both legal and illegal immigrants until recent changes brought on by a new bill. Certain legal rights are waived in the case of foreigners, such as the right to a deportation hearing or other legal motions. In cases of flagrant delicts, such as a person declaring they entered the country illegally, any citizen may make a citizen’s arrest on the offender and his accomplices, turning them over without delay to the nearest authorities. Only Mexicans by birth or naturalization and Mexican companies have the right to acquire ownership of lands, waters, and their appartenances, or to obtain concessions for the exploitation of mines or of waters.  Mexicans have priority over foreigners under equality of circumstances for all classes of concessions and for all employment, positions, or commissions of the Government in which the status of citizenship is not indispensable.

The word “freerider” comes to mind in contemplating the hurt feelings of Matra’s Mexicans in Canada.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on August 09, 2007, 08:27 AM | #

”(Both Mexico and the Bush Administration want Canada to take in more Mexicans).”  (—Matra, 5:00 AM)

Steve Edwards asked me in different thread the other day if I had proof it was D.C. that was pushing race-replacement on the rest of the Eurosphere.  I don’t, but little hints one comes across here and there such as the above by Matra (where exactly did Matra get that info, which I am certain must be right?) and other hints one sees, such as looking up a number of the web-sites of federal government agencies that deal with other nations, of which there is an astonishing number, and noticing 1) their explicit and aggressive commitment to “diversity” no matter how irrelevant it is to their job, together with 2) the number of Jewish names in supervisory positions in these agencies and bureaucracies, the whole thing combined with doing a few thought experiments and mentally just taking a long look at the situation and adding two plus two, gives a pretty plausible suspicion that it’s D.C. leaning on these other countries to “diversify” their demographies and “not be racist, which they can accomplish to D.C.‘s satisfaction by changing themselves into Negroes,” or some theme-and-variations on that.  Remember Fjordman in a recent piece said he’d come to the conclusion multiculturalism was an American export?  I feel pretty certain he’s right. 

It’s coming from here, folks.  D.C. bureaucracies and government agencies that have dealings with other countries are aggressively leaning on them to make race-replacement uniform throughout the Eurosphere.  Find who exactly is the source of the infection over here, lance the abscess, drain the pus, and the infection will stop being pumped into the Eurosphere’s bloodstream poisoning every member nation.

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Posted by Al Ross on August 09, 2007, 09:11 AM | #

“Find who exactly is the source of infection over here”.

Well, Fred, the source of infection might well be the stupidity and sentimentalism derived from the famous document which says “all men are created equal” and “have the inalienable right to the pursuit of happiness”. Encouraged by this nonsense, Americans have blundered on, pursuing happiness even though it meant war and crime and incalculable waste of money.

Not content with pursuing their own happiness, Americans have taken it upon themselves to be pro-active in ensuring that the Third World shares in this futile and intellect-enfeebling pursuit by inviting its backward hordes to settle in the US.

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Posted by Steve Edwards on August 09, 2007, 11:21 AM | #

Matra’s article can also be found here:

http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/us-minorities-becoming-majority/2007/08/09/1186530530533.html

I like this quote:

” WHITES are now in the minority in nearly one in 10 US counties because of immigration and a higher birth rate among blacks and Hispanics.

And the increased diversity is straining race relations and sparking a backlash against immigrants in many communities with complaints that many refuse to embrace the local culture.

“There’s some culture shock,” said Mark Mather of the Population Reference Bureau, a Washington-based research agency. “But I think there is a momentum building, and it is going to continue.” “


That last sentence is truly unbelievable - “momentum” indeed. It’s as if race-replacement was simply a tidal-like phenomenon caused by some external gravity-inducing body, the moon for instance, rather than a conscious political decision of the elites to destroy their own nation.

I also like the way they casually mention, “oh yes, we admkit this has been a complete disaster - nation-busting is often like that - but it’s GOT to continue because…it’s just inevitable! And besides, the alternative is ‘discrimination’, which is unconscionable”.

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Posted by Matra on August 09, 2007, 11:53 AM | #

The Mexicans are pushovers ‘cause their numbers are small

Yes, if Sikhs or Chinese were mistreated it would be bigger news as they have not only greater numbers but their own newspapers and TV stations. I’m not confident Canada would stand up to them, though they, unlike Mexicans, would need Visas in the first place.

I predict just before the next election PM Harper will issue an apology to Sikhs over the Komagata Maru incident but won’t get their votes.

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Posted by Matra on August 09, 2007, 12:14 PM | #

From Nicholas Keung Immigration/Diversity reporter at the Toronto Star:

Mexican refugee requests skyrocket
Middle class wants to escape drug cartels, corrupt authorities

Manuel Lanveros could have come to Canada through normal immigration channels as a skilled immigrant.

Instead, the Mexican citizen simply hopped on a plane and asked for refugee asylum here because, he says, he couldn’t afford to risk his life on the two-year wait.

An architect with 15 years of experience, Lanveros represents a new wave of Mexican refugees who contradict the desperate day-labourer stereotype: educated, upper-middle-class professionals who claim corrupt authorities are failing to protect them from drug cartels, abusive spouses or gay bashers.

According to the Immigration and Refugee Board, Mexican asylum claims have skyrocketed in a decade, from fewer than 1,000 a year to 5,000. For the past two years, Mexico has been Canada’s top source country for refugee claims.

With the defeat this spring of a U.S. immigration bill that would have provided a path to citizenship for undocumented migrants – and the increasing hostility of many Americans – observers worry that Mexicans hoping for a safe haven will instead file claims in Canada.

Francisco Rico-Martinez, of the Faithful Companions of Jesus (FCJ) Refugee Centre, says 85 per cent of the advocacy group’s clients are now Mexicans. As many as 15 new cases arrive at his door each week.

“My concern is we’re going to be swarmed by Mexicans in the U.S. who don’t have status there and can come to the border because they don’t need a visa to come to Canada,” says Rico-Martinez, himself a refugee from El Salvador. “We’re starting to get calls from Mexicans in the States, five to six a week, hoping to file refugee (claims) in Canada. But we may not even know half of the Mexicans here who are without status, because they don’t need visas to come.”

Anticipating a continued influx, the refugee board is now treating Mexican cases as a top priority. Some cases are heard within six months, compared with the more typical 12 to 18 months.

Last November, the board even sent a fact-finding mission to Mexico, “to address information gaps related to witnesses of crime and public-sector corruption, women victims of violence, and victims of discrimination or violence based on sexual orientation.” In February, the researchers issued guidelines to help adjudicators make decisions.

Advocates argue that most Canadians view Mexico through the benign lens of a tourist – as a free, democratic country – and fail to recognize how corruption there can leave people vulnerable to crime. That blind spot, they say, is reflected in the high rates of rejection for Mexican refugee claims. “Our concern is whether Mexicans can get a fair hearing, when most people simply assume they are economic migrants,” says Janet Dench, executive director of the Canadian Council for Refugees. “And we’ve seen our share of prejudice against the Mexicans.”

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Posted by Al Ross on August 09, 2007, 11:28 PM | #

The Mexican wave of illegal immigration to the US might collapse if the American employers of ‘undocumented’ workers received a salutary lesson as learned by this scofflaw employer of illegal aliens in Malaysia.

http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Friday/Frontpage/20070810075340/Article/index_html

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Posted by Hakluyt on August 10, 2007, 09:36 AM | #

Canada has always dealt more harshly than the USA with its illegal immigrants, all through history. The reason for this is the different relationship between big business and immigration, a relationship that has always been the prime mover for immigration in the US but not in Canada.

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Posted by Hakluyt on August 10, 2007, 09:40 AM | #

Before WWII they wanted to be Brits, subsequently they want to be Yankees.

Prior to WWII they were Brits. A Brit born in Canada is a Brit.

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Posted by Scimitar on August 11, 2007, 09:11 AM | #

Remember Fjordman in a recent piece said he’d come to the conclusion multiculturalism was an American export?  I feel pretty certain he’s right.

The United States has traditionally practiced the exact opposite of what is known as “multiculturalism.” I believe Kaufmann’s word for it is “Anglo-conformity.” European immigrants who came to the United States were expected to cast off their cultural baggage, “assimilate,” become white. 50% Americans were held in utter contempt until quite recently.

Multiculturalism is a critique of “Anglo-conformity.” It was first introduced to the United States in the early 20C by the German Jew Horace Kallen who attempted to popularize what he called “cultural pluralism.” It didn’t catch on at the time. I don’t believe “multiculturalism” became influential in the U.S. until the 1970s/1980s.

Even today, multiculturalism is not an official policy of the U.S. government. If I recall correctly, that is the case in Canada and Australia, and maybe the U.K., I am not sure. Canada has always had problems trying to accomodate Quebec.

Hakluyt, for example, is a multiculturalist. Perhaps he can shed some light on this.

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Posted by Scimitar on August 11, 2007, 09:16 AM | #

But this cannot be right. According to Canadian conservatives (ie. USA fifth columnists), National Review, and Mark Steyn, Canuckistan is a wimpy, PC, Euro/UN- loving, liberal country unlike the patriotic, virile, and tough USA - “the West’s last hope”. I’m so confused!

No, the U.S. has by far the most insane immigration policy in the Western world. “Conservatism” in America is a synonym for neoliberal.

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Posted by Matra on August 11, 2007, 04:28 PM | #

Even today, multiculturalism is not an official policy of the U.S. government. If I recall correctly, that is the case in Canada and Australia, and maybe the U.K., I am not sure.

Canada is officially multicultural. In the 1980s a federal government department of multiculturalism & citizenship was started up by a Progressive Conservative government - though official multiculturalism predates that.

I would say that in both Canada and Australia multiculturalism reared its ugly head around the time ties to a declining Britain were loosening. Both countries also had a Greater British identity that was in decline. Multiculturalism was meant to replace the older Britishness. Of course, it wasn’t the Canadian and Australian people of British descent that pushed for it but the politicians.

Meanwhile Canada’s good week continues:

TORONTO (CP) - A Nicaraguan national who fears persecution in his homeland because of his sexual orientation was ordered deported Thursday by Canada’s Immigration and Refugee Board - a decision his lawyer said came as a “huge surprise.”

Alvaro Orozco, 21, says he was just 12 when he fled Nicaragua - a country where homosexuality is considered a crime punishable by up to four years in prison - because his father beat him for being gay.

Thursday’s decision places Orozco’s safety at risk, his lawyer, El-Farouk Khaki, told a news conference.

“I think this is very significant in terms of his risk of return,” Khaki said.

“There were tangible and very real risks before the Nicaraguan press picked up his story. Those risks were exacerbated because his name and his orientation were broadcast nationally.”

After fleeing his homeland, Orozco hitchhiked his way to the U.S. and, after five years living as an illegal immigrant, eventually made it to Canada in January 2005.

He applied for asylum on the basis of his sexual orientation, but Deborah Lamont - the IRB member who heard his case in February - didn’t believe he was gay because he wasn’t sexually active during his teen years and his sexual orientation wasn’t clear when he left Nicaragua.

http://www.canadaeast.com/front/article/46292

So if deported he will be sent to the USA. No doubt when/if he’s sent to the US he will probably apply for asylum there. Maybe he’ll be Fred Scrooby’s new neighbour!

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Posted by watermelon man on August 11, 2007, 04:55 PM | #

“So if deported he will be sent to the USA. No doubt when/if he’s sent to the US he will probably apply for asylum there. Maybe he’ll be Fred Scrooby’s new neighbour!”

HAHAHAHAHA!  The record shows that Fred is the only known documented case where a White man moved into an all non-white neighborhood and caused the property values to go down.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on August 11, 2007, 06:54 PM | #

“Maybe he’ll be Fred Scrooby’s new neighbour!”  (—Matra)

Wow, I can’t wait!  The U.S.A.‘s a big place, Matra — you think my luck’ll be that good?  (Somehow it never is when I buy lottery tickets ...)

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Posted by Al Ross on August 11, 2007, 08:23 PM | #

“Even today, multiculturalism is not an official policy of the U.S. government”

How, then does one explain the Green Card Lottery which is based solely on quotas allocated to every Third World country?

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Posted by Matra on August 11, 2007, 11:02 PM | #

“Even today, multiculturalism is not an official policy of the U.S. government”

How, then does one explain the Green Card Lottery which is based solely on quotas allocated to every Third World country?

When I lived in Northern Ireland I applied for that green card lottery. People born in the Rep. of Ireland and Northern Ireland had a better chance than almost any other nation. Northern Ireland’s privileged status was a direct result of the so-called Good Friday agreement of 1998 - which I, personally, voted against. Ted Kennedy supposedly arranged it so that NI would in future be included, unlike the rest of the UK. From what I remember Poland was the only other eligible white country - again due to politics, this time from Chicago rather than Massachusetts. The lottery was based entirely on where you were born rather than your actual nationality at the time of application. According to the form I picked up from the US consulate the idea was to diversify US immigration to include nationalities that were not as well represented in the US. For example Mexicans and Canadians were ineligible. The lottery is not the only source for immigrants; indeed, it is just a small percentage of those accepted each year.

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Posted by Al Ross on August 12, 2007, 12:02 AM | #

“the idea was to diversify US immigration”.

Thank you, Matra.

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Posted by Desmond Jones on August 20, 2007, 06:41 PM | #

Native son denied

...subjected to a “racist comment” and “treated like a criminal”...

“They were both questioning me about the licence plates on my car. I was told that I needed to pay duty on my car and register it before I entered Canada, otherwise they would not allow us to cross.

“I responded, ‘I have done this (crossed the border with American plates) 30 or 40 times.’ Officer No. 2 remarked, ‘Then the border made 30 or 40 mistakes.’ “

Later another officer said, “Where’s Cornwall?”

Nolan, who says he has never before had any contact with or ill feeling toward police, took offence to the comment—saying officers were “snickering” and “laughing” and he felt like they were stereotyping him in with the cigarette and alcohol trafficking that is alleged to go on in that region. “I have never been to Cornwall,” he told them.

In his statement he wrote: “I took offence to this statement as it is a racist comment due to the native population residing in that area. He seemed to be insinuating that the border officials in Cornwall would bend the rules for a fellow native Canadian.”

Later Nolan explained he is a professional hockey player and routinely crosses the border. This time though he says his driver’s licence was handed back to him and he was rudely told to “go back to the U.S.”

Ironically the U.S. immigration people “treated us great” and sent him back—believing he should be entitled to enter his homeland. It did not work. Nolan said upon his return a Canadian officer said, “Is he still standing there? Ignore him.”

He tried to explain that he was “employed by the New York Islanders until April” and that he just recently signed a contract with Carolina Hurricanes for September 2007.

“Where is your green card then?” he was asked.

“I showed my native status card and told him that a green card is not necessary for me to work in the U.S. His response was, ‘I know what the status card is. It’s the U.S. that accepted that agreement, but we don’t.’

“I said that for the last five years I have been playing hockey and crossing the border with my status card and do not need a green card. I also showed him my New York licence with the U.S. residence on the card.

“He replied to me by saying, ‘That does not prove that you live in the U.S., and that (pointing to my native status card) means nothing to me.’ “

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Posted by Matra on August 21, 2007, 10:04 AM | #

Desmond,

Like father like son. Ted Nolan, one of the few visibly successful Aboriginal/First Nations/Native Canadian/Indians, has been playing the race card for years now. I’m sceptical of anything his son says.

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