Illegals not such a bad lot

A report about the work lives of recent Mexican immigrants in seven cities across the United States suggests that they typically traded jobs in Mexico for the prospect of work here, despite serious bouts of unemployment, job instability and poor wages.

The report, released Tuesday by the Pew Hispanic Center, was based on surveys of nearly 5,000 Mexicans, most of them here illegally.

Those surveyed were seeking identity documents at Mexican consulates in New York, Atlanta and Raleigh, N.C., where recent arrivals have gravitated toward construction, hotel and restaurant jobs, and in Dallas, Chicago, Los Angeles, and Fresno, Calif., where they have been more likely to work in agriculture and manufacturing.

Unlike the stereotype of jobless Mexicans heading north, most of the immigrants had been employed in Mexico, the report found.

Once in the United States, they soon found that their illegal status was no barrier to being hired here. And though the jobs they landed, typically with help from relatives, were often unstable and their median earnings only $300 a week, that was enough to keep drawing newcomers because wages here far exceeded those in Mexico.

“We’re getting a peek at a segment of the U.S. labor force that is large, that is growing by illegal migration, and that is bringing an entirely new set of issues into the U.S. labor market,” said Rakesh Kochhar, associate director for research at the Pew Hispanic Center and author of the study.

The report suggested that policies intended to reduce migration pressures by improving the Mexican economy would have to look beyond employment to wages and perceptions of opportunity.

The survey found that the most recent to arrive were more likely to have worked in construction or commerce, rather than agriculture, in Mexico. Only 5 percent had been unemployed there; they were “drawn not from the fringes, but from the heart of Mexico’s labor force,” the report said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/07/national/07immig.html?pagewanted=all

Posted by jonjayray on Wednesday, December 7, 2005 at 11:36 PM in Immigration
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Posted by Fred Scrooby on December 08, 2005, 12:31 AM | #

Forgive me, I don’t see the point of the entry, John—I just don’t see it.  (Maybe I should’ve kept my mouth shut in that case—“If you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all” ...)  Or is this entry another of John’s intermittent taunts aimed at the anti-race-replacement crowd?

“The report suggested that policies intended to reduce migration pressures by improving the Mexican economy would have to look beyond employment to wages and perceptions of opportunity.”  (—from the log entry)

So right!  That’s how Japan has managed to reduce “migration pressures” from the Third World—by “improving the economy” of Mexico and other places, and by “looking beyond employment to wages and perceptions of opportunity.”  Yeah that’s surely how Japan did it—how Japan avoided its own excessive incompatible immigration crisis.  By doing all that.  Yeah.  Right.  It’s plain as day.  Plain as the noses on our faces.  Maybe the U.S. should emulate Japan more closely in this regard ... It’s our only chance of solving our race-replacement crisis .... Let’s have that formula again, please, John?  OK here it is:  to stop being innundated by Mexicans our only recourse is to “improve the economy of Mexico and look beyond employment to wages and perceptions of opportunity.”  That’ll get the job done, all right—it’s just what the doctor ordered!  That’s the good news.  The bad news is the doctor’s name is Jack Kervorkian.

“The survey found that the most recent to arrive were more likely to have worked in construction or commerce, rather than agriculture, in Mexico. Only 5 percent had been unemployed there; they were ‘drawn not from the fringes, but from the heart of Mexico’s labor force,’ the report said.”  (—idem)

So what, John? ...  Your point is? ... We’re supposed to turn into Mexico because of that? 

John we could care less what they did before they arrived here.  We don’t want to be changed into Mexico.  Is that hard to grasp?  I guess it must be, for someone like you who can’t conceive of that which everyone else knows as race.

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Posted by John S Bolton on December 08, 2005, 04:31 AM | #

You might have read the article to see the large significance of it. Robert Courtney Smith, a sociologist who wrote Mexican N. Y. is quoted saying:“You can’t plausibly argue that immigrant-dominated sectors have a labor shortage”. The mexican immigrants studied were found to earn $300 a week, when they had work, which was highly casualized and seasonalized, and such that 38% reported unemployment of one month or more over the course pf a year. They tried to make it look like these immigrants and sojourners adjust down to a 5% unemployment rate after 6 months, but they didn’t say if that applied only to those who stay much more than 6 months, which could be far less common in the group studied. those who don’t stay the full year may have a 30+% unemployment rate, and be more than 1/3 of the total in that demographic.

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Posted by John S Bolton on December 08, 2005, 04:51 AM | #

This is how Hispanics in the US are brought down to half the personal incomes of the majority, an unheard-of disparity. Blacks in the 1930’s had half the income of the majority, but that was an unusual period in economic history. For years of prosperity to generate this unspeakable personal income gap, which shakes America’s immigration policies’ credibility to their earthquake-pulverized foundations, is astonishing. It implies that the latinos compete with and savage each other’s chances to such extent, that the sort of immigrants and sojourners studied would have usually months of unemployment, since their incomes would be below the Hispanic personal income median. Officials know what they’re doing in regard to these policies; they want to promote civil war by setting groups into conflict.

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Posted by Steve Edwards on December 08, 2005, 06:41 AM | #

Right, so now the talking point is “ending illegal immigration” by “fixing the Mexican economy”. But how is this going to happen without

a) a massive increase in Mexican IQs;
b) a massive migration of capital from the US to Mexico?

It’s pie-in-the-sky stuff, and, in fact, it’s a deliberate diversion designed to undermine any attempts to fix America’s borders and repatriate the invading “immigrants”.

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Posted by Svigor on December 08, 2005, 05:08 PM | #

JJR likes anecdotes.  I have a couple.  A friend’s wife and her friend took their young daughters to Toys ‘R Us one day.  In the standard TRU vestibule there was a urinating mestizo.

“Mommy, I can see his - *urk*!” as mommy yanks the kiddies inside.

Nice.

Want another?  My sister was driving to work and saw a mestizo on the curb, exposing himself and masturbating.  All this was on a main downtown thoroughfare.  God only knows why he wasn’t busy being tasered.  Maybe a white man was thinking for himself somewhere.

After all, we all know that family values don’t end at the Rio Grande (no, they apparently end at the southern border of Mexico, where Mexicans strangely take a dim view of border-jumpers).

Me?  I’m a heretic.  I think mestizos should be excluded summarily, if only because of their tendency toward gathering in groups and leering at prepubescent children.

Maybe JJR can share his mestizo-anecdotes?

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