Impressions of Ateney

Posted by Guessedworker on August 06, 2007, 11:50 AM | #

David Duke’s speech at Ateney ...

http://www.davidduke.com/general/from-the-abyss-david-dukes-moscow-speech_2520.html#more-2520

Posted by Maguire on August 06, 2007, 03:58 PM | #

“David Duke did not speak about Euro-Russia at all.”

I can well believe this.  Constantin von Hoffmeister didn’t either judging from his speech.  At least about the Euro Russia I’ve come to know in person since the mid 1990s.  This knowledge was most recently updated by five weeks sojourn in April & May.  I passed through Moscow for a few days on each end, but spent the bulk of my time on the lower Volga River about 80 kilometers from NW Kazakhstan.  And also touched base in Helsinki’s international airport for a regrettably far too few hours.

Divine madmen are a recurrent type in Russian literature and society, so I’m sure von Hoffmeister received a warm welcome last month. 

I think “A Finn” and I can anchor a useful reality based discussion of Russia Today and Tommorow, but it’ll need better moorings than a CvH-led heading can offer.

I can say that from what I’ve read in M-R postings of late, the Commentariat seriously underestimate the extent of remaining Jewish influence in Russia, and in Moscow and the media in particular.  The Commentariat also underestimate the extent to which Putin’s Russia has become an integrated member state of the New World Order.

The differences which many are prone to fixate on are at the same level as the differences between New York’s Five Mafia Families and Chicago’s “Outfit”, which is the name of the Mafia Family there.

Maguire

Posted by Maguire on August 06, 2007, 04:35 PM | #

p.s.  I’ll add one factoid that should at least give reason for some rethinking about the urban legend of Putin’s New Anti-Semitic State. 

This is the subsequent career of one of Boris Yeltsin’s Jewish Prime Ministers, Sergei Kiriyenko.  He first became a center of interest during his confirmation proceedings when the question was raised in the Duma of possible dual Russian-Israeli citizenship.  The Jew Kiriyenko, seconded by the Jews in Jerusalem, assured all and sundry he didn’t possess Israeli citizenship.

Today Kiriyenko is the head of Rosatom, Russia’s nuclear power agency.  Among his other tasks is supplying Iran with nuclear reactor technology and supervising implementation of the quote ‘Russian’ unquote supported part of Iran’s nuclear program.

This is the same Iranian program the Jews in Jerusalem and New York claim justifies launching a full-scale pre-emptive strike, and using tactical nuclear weapons if necessary.

Posted by calvin on August 06, 2007, 05:51 PM | #

The way I understand it is that the Jewish minority have always struggled to influence social policies and attitudes in ways that secure the interests and safety of Jews. Anyone who says this is usually challenged to explain why they would do this? A more pertinent question would be why wouldn’t they do this? Every group, whether an ethnic group, class or religious minority do this; this is normal behaviour.

The problem for many people is that what may be in the interest of Jewish people may well be against their interests.

The big mistake in recognising this truth is to extrapolate that because some social changes that Jewish people helped to influence were against their general interests, all social changes that Jewish people helped to influence were against their general interests. This error is further compounded by the error of believing that because Jewish interests and non-elite Gentile interests diverged in the past, it is not possible that they may be converging in the present.

Having said that, however, there is no need to tailspin into a unilateral lovefest, I am perfectly willing to talk as an equal to any Jewish person who is willing to admit that maybe MacDonald has a point but that now we both face a common threat, but I feel that some ethnically aware whites are displaying a dignity bypass in their exposition of their Jewish epiphany. Our attitude should be a bit more, “maybe we can do business”, and a bit less, “hail beloved comrade”.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on August 06, 2007, 07:12 PM | #

“I feel that some ethnically aware whites are displaying a dignity bypass in their exposition of their Jewish epiphany. Our attitude should be a bit more, ‘maybe we can do business’ “  (—Calvin)

Someone who’s getting his own way doesn’t negotiate.  Jews will be interested in seeing if “maybe we can do business” when they’re not already getting their own way — some time in the future perhaps, after whites will have firmed-up their position somewhat.  As things now stand, “seeing if we can do business” with the Jews would go something like this:

“OK, at the moment, we whites are getting creamed with race-replacement, and you guys are instrumental in forcing it on us.  Maybe we can do business.” 

“Yeah, maybe we can:  we keep forcing it on you, and you keep getting creamed.  How’s that?” 

“Gee, that’s not what we had in mind. ... Don’t we have anything you want?” 

“Well ... guaranteed racial extinction within thirty years isn’t exactly something we can use at this point.  But we’ll let you know if we change our minds.”

Now, let’s say whites firmed-up their position somewhat:  by electing Tom Tancredo, Ron Paul, or Duncan Hunter president, for example.  Then the conversation might go like this:

“Thank you all for coming here today.  As all you Heads of Major Jewish Organizations know, I, President Ron Paul, plan on ending all financial aid to Israel, and we’ve already reliably worked out that AIPAC hasn’t got the votes to override my planned veto.”

“Look Mr. President, let’s not be so hasty.  Maybe we can do business?”

“Yes, maybe we can.  A few other things we’re planning include scrapping the 1965 “It’s-Good-For-The-Jews” Immigration Holocaust Bill, repatriating incompatibles both legal and illegal, bringing back the national-origins immigration system of 1924 not as a law like last time but as a fully-fledged Constitutional Amendment, getting rid of the flawed Anchor-Baby interpretation of the XIVth Amendment, enshrining an explicit right of Freedom of Association for Americans which would cover hiring, promotions, membership in private clubs and organizations, selling homes and other property, renting apartments and other real estate, admitting to colleges and universities, and so on, deep-sixing all hate-speech and hate-crimes laws, and a number of other items we’ve got on our planned agenda.  We’d surely appreciate it if the Jews didn’t get in our way and try to thwart any of this.  If they didn’t, perhaps we might have second thoughts about vetoing the next appropriations bill for funds for Israel.”

“Well, Mr. President, we Heads of Major Jewish Organizations will see what we can do.  Yes, maybe we can do business ... We feel we can.”

Posted by ohlo on August 06, 2007, 08:14 PM | #

Nice writing Fred, but you’ve only persuaded the aggressor to put his weapon away and act like a member of the family. Still suicidal…

Posted by Scimitar on August 06, 2007, 10:22 PM | #

I’m increasingly of the view that these people are scenesters and that nothing they say or do is of any relevance to the racial struggle in North America.

Posted by danielj on August 06, 2007, 10:35 PM | #

Yes but we aren’t capable of doing anything but commenting on them not doing anything…

I’m in Boston…

Posted by Scimitar on August 07, 2007, 06:08 AM | #

That’s a start.

Posted by Steve Edwards on August 07, 2007, 07:24 AM | #

Fred’s gentlemanly future dialogue between the US President and the heads of AIPAC, ADL, etc is very good. But I think an even better scenario would also include the CFR, the Ford Foundation, La Raza, etc. Plus, I think it should ideally take place next to a street lamp.

Posted by Maguire on August 07, 2007, 09:58 AM | #

“Our attitude should be a bit more, “maybe we can do business””

Robert Welch of the John Birch Society, William F. Buckley of National Review and former racial segregationist Jerry Falwell had this same idea.  Your future was the coin of transaction they used to line their own pockets.

Maguire.

Posted by Scimitar on August 07, 2007, 05:42 PM | #

Plus, I think it should ideally take place next to a street lamp

See France in 1793.

Posted by Joe on August 08, 2007, 12:15 AM | #

Why are all these philo-semites coming out of the woodwork on the internet in the last couple years?  Anyone who knows about the history of pro-white politics in America knows that every time the “work with jews” approach was tried, jews ended up taking over everything and getting rid of anything or anyone pro-white.

Now we have all these clows coming out of nowhere saying we need to do that all over again. 

It’s still impossible to be pro-white and pro-jewish and will be until the jews stop attacking us.

It also needs to be said the philo-semites never point out how the real pro-whites are wrong.  How is David Duke wrong?  What theories of his are incorrect and why.  We never here that.  The philo-semites seem to be mainly concerned with the image the pro-movement in the mainstream.  They seem to think that if they’re nice to the jews, they will be allowed to write articles for the National Review or whatever.  Ask Jared Taylor how well that turned out once the jews gained total control over there.

Posted by second class citizen on August 08, 2007, 08:08 AM | #

“Anti-Semites like Duke hurt our cause and should be rejected.”

I have a hard time reconciling this with the David Duke I saw go up against Wolf Blitzer on youtube.

Posted by Scimitar on August 08, 2007, 08:51 AM | #

By my count, there are about five or six Jews that are pro-white. Of these, one or two are willing to work with racialists who justifiably criticize Jews for their demonization of racialism. The rest of American Jewry hates our guts.

Did you know that The Realist’s Jewish new editor quit Inverted World? He quit because he couldn’t stand any criticism of the Jews whatsoever. What does it say about pro-white Jews that so many of them can’t even bring themselves to work with Jared Taylor or even The Realist?

The Realist can’t even unite his own website, still less get the mainstream American Jewish community to call off their hundred year crusade against racialism.

Posted by Maguire on August 08, 2007, 09:09 AM | #

Wow GT.  Look here.  Learning is possible, even on M-R. 

“I’m increasingly of the view that these people are scenesters and that nothing they say or do is of any relevance to the racial struggle in North America.”

Or anywhere else.

“Yes but we aren’t capable of doing anything but commenting on them not doing anything…”

We’re not that powerless.  Exert a pro-white on five other whites physically near you and you’ll have exceeded the scenesters effect by 5x.

It’s the Jew who lacks local roots.  This is why he has to try to leverage technologies like tv and centralized publishing, supplemented by outright police repression and a seeming of a local presence with paid mercenaries like Hillary Hosta.. 

“I’m in…” “That’s a start.”

It is indeed.

Posted by JB on August 08, 2007, 01:38 PM | #

...arguing that it is impossible to be pro-Jewish and
pro-White at the same time.

he’s right. Look what it did to Jobling at Inverted World. Even Jared Taylor has been called an antisemite for not caring about jews. The jews want us dead or mentally sterilized. Yes, they’re digging their own grave by working to destroy us but their hatred of us is stronger than their reason.

Puffmeister is a dreamer completely disconnected from the real world. National Fututism, Intergalactic Bolshevism, Adolescent Masturbationism, it’s all the same. Stop giving him any attention.

I can’t be the only one tired of those self-appointed grand intellectual leaders who dream up of these solutions to save the West. It’s just too easy to talk among ourselves and to write The Big Plan to save our race. We don’t need dreamers we need good courageous men.

Posted by Wunderhund on August 08, 2007, 10:45 PM | #

JB

“Puffmeister is a dreamer completely disconnected from the real world. National Fututism, Intergalactic Bolshevism, Adolescent Masturbationism, it’s all the same. Stop giving him any attention.”

Puffmeister!  that’s the right moniker for that self-important blow-hard.
There’s a German saying:
“grosse Schnauze; nichts dahinter.”
i.e. “a big mouth (that likes to hear itself talk) and not much else”

Why is Puffmeister posting EVERYWHERE?
How does he find the time?
Who pays his bills?
That might be worth looking into.
Anybody have any intel?

Posted by Joe on August 10, 2007, 11:07 PM | #

We need to start a more a organized effort to monitor and counter jewish attempts to co-opt the pro-white movement.

Posted by a Finn on August 18, 2007, 11:23 PM | #

Maguire: “I’ll add one factoid that should at least give reason for some rethinking about the urban legend of Putin’s New Anti-Semitic State.”

- Anti-semitic is too strong word. What has happened is this:

- Jewish power (media political etc.), wealth and holdings has been reduced considerably and the power, wealth and holdings of Russians/Russian state has been increased considerably. More resources have been given to ordinary Russians.

- Remaining jewish oligarchs have been prevented from meddling in politics and big media, like the richest deposed jewish oligarch Khodorkovsky (8-15,2 billion dollars according to different sources), who supported communists, liberals and overthrow of Putin. (Why would jewish billionaire support communists? Part of it is just using communists as a tool, but from elites point of view global capitalism differs little from communism. Both try make the masses largely homogenous gray mass by mixing, where every individual is interchangeable with almost anybody else. Masses are largely prevented from rising to the top or having power, and the power of elites is made as permanent as possible. Power is condensed to the hands of a few.  What wealth, holdings, and power buys for elites in global capitalism, power buys more abundantly to communist elites. Politbyro members had in seventies monthly salary of little bit over 2000 dollars, but they could order people to build them almost anything, to use the state’s resources to buy them almost anything they wanted, to take care of their security with small armies, to use any apparatus of state, like military, security forces, economic structures, political structures etc. in almost any way they wanted, order the killing, imprisonment or general downfall of almost anybody they wanted, etc.

- To create balance of power, where the Russians have the most of it.

Methods used in this include:

- Support of the large majority Russian people from top of the power to bottom. Almost everybody hated the jewish oligarchs and oligarchs in general and wanted their money, power etc. taken away from them and given more to them.

- Putin’s trusted power networks originating from KGB and FSB and developed ever since.

- Promising those that help Putin share of that money, power, wealth and holdings that is taken away from the jewish oligarchs.

- Rivalries and tensions between four ruling clans in Russia

- Putin used jewish oligarchs’ power to rise to the top, then consolidated and increased that power and used it against jewish oligarchs.

- The brutal Russian mind, which says and does that which it sees necessary, without PC. In Russia rich and powerful jews are just jews with too much printed paper in their pockets, not objects of worship, fawning, fear and respect, like in the West.

There are of course other factors and details, many of them inside the power circles.

Thus jews are not altogether prevented from having power, wealth and money, but it is limited, controlled and prevented in certain ways.

Putin took into consideration several factors:

- The reaction of global market forces. He didn’t want to upset them unnecessarily.

- He clearly wanted jews to constructively and in limited way to be part of building and helping Russia.

- He wanted to uphold some relations with Israel, because both countries need each other because of muslims. Jewish Kiriyenko at the head of Rosatom, which is supplying nuclear energy to Iranians, mentioned by Maguire, is highly likely part of this.

-  Internationally he probably didn’t want to cut relations more than necessary to international jews. They might be useful in different situations.

The power of Russians will withstand as long as Russians are dynamic. If they are not, jews take it back. They are always ready for it. In history Russia has decayed sooner or later. If Russia decays in the future, the cycle begins again.

Currently those that control in essence the energy sector and media, control in essence the Russia.

Here are some articles about the situation. Ignore the possible PC.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/1128/p01s03-woeu.html

http://www.businessweek.com/2000/00_28/b3689158.htm

http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0709/p07s01-woeu.html

http://www.cdi.org/russia/johnson/9259-5.cfm

http://www.cdi.org/russia/johnson/7167-13.cfm

http://search.ft.com/ftArticle?queryText=oligarchs&y=0&aje=true&x=0&id=070208000290

http://www.sptimes.ru/index.php?action_id=2&story_id=20286

http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/05/04/Putin_extraditions.html

http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/00/12/Haaretz171200.html

http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/04/05/Oligarchs_260504.html

http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/05/07/Oligarchs_210705.html

http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/04/07/Oligarchs_170704.html

http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/04/07/Oligarchs_110704.html

http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/04/05/Oligarchs_180504.html

http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/04/07/Oligarchs_100704.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4318656.stm

Posted by Fred Scrooby on August 19, 2007, 09:32 AM | #

Brilliant analysis and summary above by Finn, which everybody should read.  I’m storing it for future perusal and reference.

Posted by Maguire on August 19, 2007, 11:10 AM | #

To A Finn,

“- Anti-semitic is too strong word.”

Of course it is.  This is why I called it an “Urban Legend”.

“- Jewish power (media political etc.), wealth and holdings has been reduced considerably”

The most public and upsetting manifestations of Jewish power have been reduced.  For instance, the Rothschild fronts called “Jewish Oligarchs”.  The Rothschild hand was finally revealed at the end of the Khodorkovsky - Lukoil drama.

Operational Jewish power in the media has increased in terms of personnel and specific programming.  A great many Jewish media manifestations have increased.  These include open TV broadcast of x-rated pornography at night.  This represents unimaginable decadence compared to old Soviet TV and movie production values.  These older standards made Pat Robertson’s so-called ‘Family Channel’ (now owned by Rupert Murdoch) look pornographic in comparison.  It also includes half Jew half negro “Russian” talkshow hostesses, other Jewish talkshow heads, and a media drama mainstreaming and mythical heroization of negroes almost as great as in the USA, despite the infinitesimal numbers of negroes actually in Russia. 

“and the power, wealth and holdings of Russians/Russian state has been increased considerably.”

The “State” hold on GAZPROM and natural gas has been consolidated, along with about 50% of the oil industry. 

“More resources have been given to ordinary Russians.”

I think it’s more accurate to say more resources and business niches have been given to non-jewish children of the old Soviet Nomenklatura.  The so-called “New Russians” are well over 50% children of old Russian Communist elites.

“Masses are largely prevented from rising to the top or having power, and the power of elites is made as permanent as possible. Power is condensed to the hands of a few.  What wealth, holdings, and power buys for elites in global capitalism, power buys more abundantly to communist elites.”

Russian society is far more economically stratified now than under the Soviet regime.  I think it’s reasonable to say that upward mobility has decreased there as everywhere in the EU and North America.

“- Support of the large majority Russian people from top of the power to bottom.”

This support was organized.  The Russian people had less role in Putin’s emergence than the American people did in George W. Bush’s.  Putin was presented to the country as a fait accompli in 1999, following a behind the scenes game of rought musical chairs.

“- Promising those that help Putin share of that money, power, wealth and holdings that is taken away from the jewish oligarchs.”

‘Putin’ was the minimum necessary to prevent a more extreme Russian national pogrom directed against the Tribe from breaking out. 

“- Putin used jewish oligarchs’ power to rise to the top, then consolidated and increased that power and used it against jewish oligarchs.”

Putin’s primary power bases were GAZPROM and Chernomyrdin (absolutely key), St Petersburg and the St Petersburg FSB, which is the second strongest FSB branch after Moscow Center itself.  This includes St. Petersburg’s local mafia.  And the Ministry of Defense.

They did of course have the option of rousing the population to their side if necessary.  In the event this turned out to be unnecessary. 

“Thus jews are not altogether prevented from having power, wealth and money, but it is limited, controlled and prevented in certain ways.”

They are trooping back from Israel to Moscow in large numbers, just like mosquitoes swarming to the next juicy host.

“- The reaction of global market forces. He didn’t want to upset them unnecessarily.”

This is why he went along with them.  “Russia” has been reorganized and integrated into the “NWO” as a supplier of primary natural and semi-processed resources.  This includes natural gas, oil, steel, pig iron, nickel, chrome and forestry products. 

Heavy industry necessary to support those activities and related infrastructure continues.  Virtually all other industry disappeared in the 1990s and was replaced by imports -frequently Chinese - manufactured to international corporations’ standards, the same as everywhere else. 

Ignore all reports of the revival of a second “USSR” or a new physical Cold War.  Putin’s own power base would remove him.

“He wanted to uphold some relations with Israel, because both countries need each other because of muslims. Jewish Kiriyenko at the head of Rosatom, which is supplying nuclear energy to Iranians, mentioned by Maguire, is highly likely part of this.”

The Rothschild frontmen - “oligarchs” - were the ONLY sacrificial scapegoats.  And among them only Khodorkovsky actually suffers (assuming he’s actually in a Siberian prison and not lolling around somewhere in Israel or on a private tropical island defiling himself with whores).  I daresay a great many M-R readers would gladly volunteer for the mega millionaire ‘persecution’ the rest of the oligarchs are ‘suffering’.

Check what happened to the rest of Yeltsin’s (meaning Jewess daughter Tatyana Dyachenko) political appointments.  All of them still occupy high places in Russian government and politics. 

Chernomyrdin is Ambassador to the Ukraine.  Kiriyenko heads up Rosatom.  Stepashin, Putin’s predecessor as Prime Minister, is now in charge of the federal auditing agency (and can presumably produce criminal materials on anyone deviating from the group norms).  The old Mossad Rothschild asset Pinchas Finkelstein (“Yevgeny Primakov”) still sits in the Duma and does what he’s always done since starting in the Soviet era; this is serve as an international Jewish mediator while traveling disguised as a “Russian” emissary.

More modern is Putin’s current Prime Minister.  This is Jew Mikhail Fradkov. 

“- Internationally he probably didn’t want to cut relations more than necessary to international jews. They might be useful in different situations.”

Very useful, such as refraining from launching a real coup against him, assassinating him, provoking civil wars, supporting more insurgency movements inside “Russia”, etc.

“Currently those that control in essence the energy sector and media, control in essence the Russia.”

Including the huge synagogue of Putin’s Jewish appointments. 

Maguire

Posted by Maguire on August 19, 2007, 12:14 PM | #

ps

I coincidentally happened to be in Russia during August - September 1998 during the banking and default crisis.  This was pretty close to the depth of the Jewish Economic Holodomor against white Russians.

At that time you could find Alexander Barkashov’s “Eagles” (true Russian Nazis) selling and giving away party newspapers at every metro subway station in St Petersburg, every metro station in Moscow except around the Garden Ring next to the Kremlin, and in plenty of other places.  Back then the militia and OMON were as likely to take a paper and read it as to push the paperboys onwards.  I heard more than one of those paper boys preempt a roust just by saying, “the Jews are killing the Rodina.  Don’t you care?”

Barkashov was one of Russia’s most recognized politicians then.  Russian Naional Unity was advancing by leaps and bounds, just like the NSDAP in early 1930s Germany.  ‘Weimar’ symptoms were everywhere.

Putin’s faux nationalism and faux anti-semitic purge was the minimum necessary to preempt the real McCoy.  His only major opposition in the 2000 Presidential election was old Pinchas Finkelstein, who withdrew two months before the vote. 

In my opinion the Rothschilds and Big International Jews are as likely to have dumped the front men “Oligarchs” for incompetence as Putin is to have purged them unilaterally.  “Russia” was sliding into domestic anarchy.  Other than that tiny collection of clowns it’s impossible to point to any Jew who lost anything by Putin.  It’s very arguable the International Jews gained overall from Putin’s administration.

Posted by danielj on August 19, 2007, 01:29 PM | #

Hungary is next on the chopping block no?

Posted by wjg on August 19, 2007, 09:34 PM | #

Maguire,

Your revelations are discouraging.  I had thought there was maybe one power rising in the White World to defy the Master Race.  If Russia won’t reject the parasite for its infamous crimes of the last century who will?

Posted by GT on August 19, 2007, 11:43 PM | #

wjg,

“If Russia won’t reject the parasite for its infamous crimes of the last century who will?”

The ball is in the North American court.  Russia, Europe, and Islam will not do the job for us.

Posted by Maguire on August 20, 2007, 10:14 AM | #

wjg,

>>Your revelations are discouraging.<

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I think of them as realistic. All that said, there are a lot of advantages in "Russia" compared to the USA. Depending on the location I can live just as easily in "Russia" as in the USA. Genuine Judeao-Marxism of the Frankfurt School type never rooted in Russia like it has in the late grate "West". And the percentage of negroes is vastly less.

>

>I had thought there was maybe one power rising in the White World to defy the Master Race.<<

“A Finn’s” description of Putin’s Russia as an empire has a lot of truth to it.  It’s a different empire from the empires of the Czars or Commissars.  But it is definitely a “Judaeo-Empire” in its gross organization. 

Does the “State” control GAZPROM, Rosneft and the media?  Or do GAZPROM, Rosneft and the Media control “The State”?  Are these “State Owned” or “State Owning” corporations?  Outside Russia one hears ‘State Owned” and naturally thinks of Putin and the Duma owning them.  The answer is always less clear to me inside Russia.  Maybe they’re ‘state owning’ corporations along the lines of Exxon, BP and Shell.

We have to look to personalities and inside key offices to determine the true answer.  Then the picture becomes clearer of the Grand Duchy of Judaeo-Muscovy controlling an empire of natural resource exploitation, export and internal NWO import, marketing and development. 

I think “A Finn” is over reacting to a perceived new military ‘threat’.  But if I were “A Finn” with his location (tiny nation next to huge country) and history I’d over-react too.  You can only be wrong about something like that once.  The most recent draft call only yielded 20% of the potential year group.  This past April GAZPROM and Rosneft obtained legislation allowing them to recruit corporate para-military security troops.  This is because there’s not enough draftees to go around for interior security troops.  So they’re now hiring recently discharged soldiers.  And of course they can afford to pay and then write it off against expenses, thus reducing tax remittances to “The State”.

This is not the profile of a country preparing to reinvade eastern Europe or start a New Cold War.  Russia’s true #1 problem remains the demographic collapse caused by the Jewish Economic Holodomor of the 1990s. 

“If Russia won’t reject the parasite for its infamous crimes of the last century who will?”

People in Russia are acutely race aware and even Jew aware.  Just like in India or Southern California for that matter.  So what?

Maguire

Posted by Fred Scrooby on October 29, 2007, 09:51 AM | #

”[It’s an error to believe] that because Jewish interests and non-elite Gentile interests diverged in the past it is not possible that they may be converging in the present.  [...] I am perfectly willing to talk as an equal to any Jewish person who is willing to admit [...] that now we both face a common threat [...].  Our attitude should be a bit more, “maybe we can do business” [...].”  (—Calvin, August 6, 9:51 PM)

Jürgen Graf discusses this subject in a recent article:

G[uillaume] Faye keeps repeating [in his new book] that French Jews have every reason to feel threatened by massive North-African Moslem immigration and that Jewish leaders have shot themselves in the foot by supporting this invasion (which is in fact obvious).  He concludes that a “historic compromise” between nationalists and Jews is desirable and in principle possible, but he regrets to have to say that to date all efforts to arrive at such a compromise have failed.  From his book, pp 234-5: 

“Clearly, one could reason as follows:  given that Jews are very influential in the media, it would be in the nationalists’ interest to enter into an alliance with them to oppose Islamization and immigration, in exchange for eliminating all anti-Jewish odor and all support for Holocaust revisionists.  I know that several contacts have been made along these lines at the highest levels of certain nationalist and anti-race-replacement movements but these negotiations didn’t produce any significant results.”

[...] We believe no compromise with the Jews will ever be possible, for the following reason:

Effective struggle against [excessive incompatible] immigration within the current framework is impossible.  Therefore, in order to stop the invasion the current framework has to be overthrown either by insurrection or a coup d’état.  A nationalist government resulting from an insurrection or a coup d’état would necessarily have dictatorial powers [Scroob note:  that sounds shocking until you remember we’re now living under a Jewish-hegemony régime having dictatorial powers and using them at will, often brutally — so the only difference would be those powers would stop being used against our side for a change ... Suddenly it doesn’t seem so shocking.  We are not now living under a reasonable government, but already one enjoying dictatorial powers which it uses freely against us.  The only change would be this attack against us would stop.], otherwise it wouldn’t be able to take the stern measures required to bring all non-European immigration to a halt and begin the repatriation, at least in part, of non-Europeans already present on French soil.  In other words, the only way to stanch the invasion is to establish a nationalist dicatorship, an authoritarian government.  [Scroob note:  again, lest that sound too unpleasant to contemplate, remember that at present we are already living under a dictatorship, a Jewish one, and not a democracy.  The only change would be in regard to who is doing the dictating.]  Can the Jews expect to still be allowed to control the media, to spread their anti-culture and their harmful ideologies, and to use liberticidal laws to stifle all debate on “the Shoa” under such a government?  The Jews, being intelligent people, know that the answer is no.  Without needing to go as far as the Third Reich whose goal was the expulsion of Jews from Europe, a nationalist régime would have to take measures drastically limiting Jewish influence.  Jews would likely become a minority that was tolerated but having no political, economic, or cultural influence because denied access to key posts.  [Scroob note:  again this sounds horrible to our ears but it’s exactly what’s done in Israel:  no non-Jew is permitted access to key posts and no non-Jewish group is permitted to have political, economic, or cultural influence over the nation.  None of that is by accident:  Israel is explicitly run that way and no one complains, least of all Jews.  Why not France too, then?]  It goes without saying that for French Jews such a prospect is totally unacceptable.

Apart from these considerations which, from the Jewish point of view, categorically rule out any collaboration with European nationalists, ancestral Jewish resentments also play a major role.  Distrust of their host populations, hatred of European civilization in general and Christianity in particular are so deep-rooted in the collective Jewish psyche (as goes without saying, a great many individual Jews do not harbor these feelings) that in any European society the Jewish Community will attempt to continue its destructive work even if this has the effect of bringing about an Islamization which would be a mortal danger for Jews! [...]

Those are the reasons the “historic compromise” recommended by G. Faye will remain a pipe-dream.

Jürgen Graf in effect answers Calvin’s question.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on November 21, 2007, 08:10 PM | #

The excerpt in my comment just above is taken from a review, by Swiss “Holocaust” expert Jürgen Graf, of Guillaume Faye’s latest book, published a few months ago, “The New Jewish Question.”  Friedrich Braun asked me if I wouldn’t mind translating the book review for any English speakers whose French and German may be a bit rusty.  A pretty strong attack on Faye’s book, it went up yesterday at Friedrich’s site.

Posted by Guessedworker on November 21, 2007, 08:52 PM | #

German ethnic interests militate certain “desirables”, among them the rehabilitation of the reputation of Adolf Hitler and the Third Reich, and the endless exposition of the Jewish cause of Everything.

Faye may have his flaws.  But he has written some fearless truths in the past, and I think he will survive Graf’s hatchet job.