Interview with Constantin von Hoffmeister in Moscow

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Posted by ex-uh on November 23, 2011, 04:56 PM | #

“As opposed to ... PETTY nationalism.”

LOL. Ich mag Constantin sehr.

Alas, [audio] quality makes it unwatchable.

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Posted by Guest Lurker on November 23, 2011, 05:33 PM | #

Israel is a part of Europe ethnically and culturally, huh? There have been many aspersions thrown around here recently on some threads about various personalities of the white nationalist movement- words like “controlled opposition”, “crypto jew”  and so forth were used based on flimsy evidence and jumping to conclusions by wild-eyed conspiracy theorists. But in this Hoffmeister guy’s case, the words coming out of his own mouth speak amply for themselves.

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Posted by Helvena on November 24, 2011, 08:19 AM | #

Von Hoffstein is just a wolf in a sheepskin, another Faye.  Wasn’t the EU suppose to be this grand brotherhood of European?  How has that worked out?  As far as Israel and the Jews, we have the present and the past to tell us how well that alliance works.  Better to have an alliance with Turkey than Israel, at least the Turks were all once Christians (if that matters to you).  If southern Russia is considered part of Europe, why not Turkey and Iran. Why draw the line at Azerbaijan?

I’m really tired of these back door schemes to save the Jewish ass.  NO, no, no Jews.

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Posted by Ex-Pro White Activist on November 24, 2011, 10:53 AM | #

Wasn’t the EU suppose to be this grand brotherhood of European?  How has that worked out?

The EU’s main problem is its politics and finances do not reflect underlying technological-economic reality.  It’s not ‘fractional reserve banking’ as much as it is ‘fictional reserve banking’.  Another way to look at the EU is as a French alligator mouth that is mounted on a mosquito’s ass.

As far as Israel and the Jews, we have the present and the past to tell us how well that alliance works.

I guess this depends on how “us” is defined.  From our viewpoint as peons I agree. 

An “us” that is delimited to an extreme “upper class” WASP elite in the British Empire and the northeast USA circa 1917 probably views the outcome very differently.  They probably consider this alliance has worked out very well indeed for many decades.  Consider their real alternatives at the time.  Imperial Germany had them on the ropes when the British government issued the Balfour Declaration.  British generals like Douglas Haig had completely defeated and slaughtered the British Army with pointless frontal assaults against machine guns, concrete and steel.  British Admirals like Lord Jellicoe had no idea how to defeat the U-Boat blockade.

Of course that was Judeophile Germany whose government was headed by the possible Jew Bethmann von Hollweg.  This is either “controversial” or revisionist Jews are busy covering up their satanic war crimes as usual.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theobald_von_Bethmann-Hollweg.

From our present historical perspective the Balfour Declaration transaction looks like two ‘national’ elites who were bidding against each other for the services of the Jewish “state within states”.  Obviously these “services” are partly carried out by having the Jewish component residing within the losing elites’ territory engage in decisive acts of sabotage and treason.

So look at what von Hoffmeister is promoting now (Berlin-Moscow-Jerusalem axis) from the viewpoint of a modern small group of “upper class” German & Russian semi-collaborators (a/k/a “business oligarchs”).  They also might view obtaining this Jewish alliance as being worth an extremely high bid.  The bid could easily be as high the previous WASP elites bid a century ago.

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Posted by Josep on November 24, 2011, 11:09 AM | #

We don’t have a site to reach large audiences of european nationalists. The Kosher-nationalism is being sold through very well financed sites (to name a few: Politically Incorrect http://www.pi-news.net or f,desouche).
I think MR should deal with that.
Like a former post said: it is the jews who opened the gates, the muslims just walk through.
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Posted by ex-uh on November 24, 2011, 04:38 PM | #

Some Jewish ass is worth saving.

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Posted by Jimmy Marr on November 24, 2011, 05:18 PM | #

...and only then after sterilization.

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Posted by Jimmy Marr on November 24, 2011, 06:06 PM | #

I wish I was like MajikFireHornet.
That is what I’d truly like to be.
‘Cause if I were like MajikFireHornet
more whores the world might see

And if I were like MajikFireHornet,
my time I’d blithely pass,
sitting at my keyboard,
while posting tits and ass.

But since I am no Hornet,
and a piper’s life do lead,
I devote myself to chanter
and sweetly sound its reed

But he’s a jolly good fellow.
Of hazards he doth post.
And we of whom do follow
must surely make the most.

Let’s doff our hats to Hornet
for his noble deed
that no conniving Jewess
may more usurp our seed.

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Posted by ex-uh on November 24, 2011, 06:14 PM | #

I left that link for you, Jimmy.

Fain would this dago plant his seed in the flesh-tents of Judah.

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Posted by Leon Haller on November 24, 2011, 08:04 PM | #

Jewish women are not necessarily unattractive. There have been many hot ones in the movies (eg, right now, Natalie Portman, Mila Kunis, others I can’t remember).

And there are lots of unattractive whites.

Basically, it’s the non-Caucasoids who are so ugly (beginning with the Negroid peoples, then Orientals or Indians, etc).

If whites go extinct, the world will definitely be an uglier place. I can imagine some future mud owning thousands or millions of pictures of white women from the past, wistfully contemplating what has been lost ...

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Posted by jamesUK on November 24, 2011, 08:55 PM | #

Because the audio quality is so poor using the cameras on board mic instead of a microphone extension I did not watch the entire interview as it was hard to make out what he was actually saying.

He is right about Israel that its roots and culture are imbedded in western civilisation which is essentially a white colony. .

Europe’s successive right wing victory although fairly limited is only due to pandering to Zionist interests like Geert Wilder.

From a white nationalist perspective why be opposed to Israel which is essentially a white nationalist country even David Duke compared Israeli laws to that of Germany under national socialist rule.

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Posted by wend on November 25, 2011, 01:58 AM | #

Natalie Portman and Mila Kunis are “hot”?

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Posted by Ex-Pro White Activist on November 25, 2011, 09:36 AM | #

Jewish women are not necessarily unattractive. There have been many hot ones in the movies (eg, right now, Natalie Portman, Mila Kunis, others I can’t remember).

These two and the others cited by that blog are mediocre looking at best.  And that’s after major overhaul by the plastic surgeons, dieticians, dentists, personal fitness trainers, professional photography and post photo shoot software editing. 

Your comment tells me far more about yourself than about them.

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Posted by Leon Haller on November 25, 2011, 10:27 AM | #

Natalie Portman is “mediocre-looking”?

Either you have some really weird infatuation with contradicting everything I say, or you must have a very, very beautiful wife or girlfriend. I mean world-class, super-model quality.

Unfortunately for the latter hypothesis, persons with women so fine they would make Portman “mediocre-looking” (something I think literally impossible) are usually world-famous individuals, the kind who can access the world’s best looking females. Those types do not have time to waste on sites like this (or any other blogging venues), nor the desire to do so.

Anonymous internet chat is cheap. My current girlfriend is pretty hot, but of course I doubt many guys would choose her over Mila Kunis (although she’s pretty enough that a small percentage who liked her unusual ‘look’ might).

Be real.

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Posted by Alaric on November 25, 2011, 11:37 AM | #

Leon Haller is the most dullardly, gutter White trash moron on this website. This idiotic clown seriously thinks these yentas who spend all day at the plastic surgeons table are beautiful. Unbelievable. He apparently has never viewed before-after photos of these disgusting jew tarts, widely available on the internet.

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Posted by Silver on November 25, 2011, 02:34 PM | #

Leon Haller’s ten times the person you’ll ever be (even on a bad day), Alaric, you wretched little turd.  (Go on, threaten me, tough guy.)

Personally, I think it’s perfectly acceptable to be so intensely pro-white (or pro-nord) that no other being appears remotely as attractive to you.  But to insist that you’ve hit upon some universal truth that all others must (eventually) embrace is sheer lunacy (even by typically lunatic WN standards).

One aspect of human beings (among many others) is that they’re esthetic objects.  And in common with all other esthetic objects they can attract or repulse.  But just consider the immense range of what humans perceive to be attractive in esthetic objects of all sorts.  Consider it, and then ponder the utter idiocy of insisting on the universality of one’s own standards.

If whites go extinct, the world will definitely be an uglier place. I can imagine some future mud owning thousands or millions of pictures of white women from the past, wistfully contemplating what has been lost ...

I’m sure there will be some nostalgic types like me who (come to) feel that way.  Even as a child I felt a profound sense of loss regarding the extinction of woolly mammoths and saber-toothed tigers: such impressive creatures, now longer with us, vanished forever; why? Life seemed so unfair.  I had a similar reaction when I first heard ‘reports’ on the radio one day as a teen, some twenty years ago, that ‘experts predict’ blonds (“Nazis!”) would go extinct.  Truth be told, my first reaction was, “Good riddance, hateful bastards.”  That was followed immediately afterwards by deep sense of regret.  Extinct.  Wow.  That means gone forever.  Never to be seen again. A world totally without blonds (or whites/germanics). That didn’t sit well with me at all.  Surely the world would be poorer for it, I thought.  Then I comforted myself with the thought that, nah, it’ll never happen—the mysterious “they” wouldn’t allow it to.  (How many millions of whites succumb to the same comforting fallacy?)

So look at what von Hoffmeister is promoting now (Berlin-Moscow-Jerusalem axis) from the viewpoint of a modern small group of “upper class” German & Russian semi-collaborators (a/k/a “business oligarchs”).

He’s not promoting it “now.”  He hasn’t changed his tune.  He’s always been “pan-European” and inclusive of Jews.  Stands to reason, really.  Outside of N/NW Europe hardly anyone passes the “purity test,” so, racially speaking, what does it matter if Jews fail it?  Better to simply critique his pan-European position.  Racially, it’s nonsense.  If nords/germanics (or what 90% of people mean by “the white race”) mean to live on they’ll simply have to discriminate in favor of themselves.  There’s no way around it.  That doesn’t (or shouldn’t) mean making enemies out of people who are not one’s enemies (the way so many WN lunatics are wont to); it’s an accurate appraisal of conditions. Surely a better idea is to secure the mutual support and cooperation of like-minded ‘others.’  (Of course it is.  Naturally, then, WN lunatics, in their infinite wisdom [snort], reject it off hand.)

 

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Posted by Jimmy Marr on November 25, 2011, 02:54 PM | #

If nords/germanics (or what 90% of people mean by “the white race”) mean to live on they’ll simply have to discriminate in favor of themselves.  There’s no way around it.

This strategy makes sense, and I agree, there is no way around it, so let me ask you this:

Who, as a group, is, was, and always will be, the most ardent foe of this discrimination, which you advocate?

Is this group, therefore, not our primary enemy?

Is anyone who advocates a continuation of our futile alliance with this enemy not a traitor to our cause?

This really isn’t rocket science, is it?

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Posted by CL on November 25, 2011, 03:04 PM | #

So, will similar ‘lovely’ yentas be gracing ‘White Zion,’ aka the American suburb recreated in some third world hell-hole, ‘led’ by white bookworms forever debating how much worthless currency to issue on any particular day?

Has the boat left yet?

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Posted by GDR on November 25, 2011, 03:21 PM | #

There have been many hot ones in the movies (eg, right now, Natalie Portman, Mila Kunis, others I can’t remember).

Is this why he calls it “White Zion”?

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Posted by Graham_Lister on November 25, 2011, 03:45 PM | #

Natalie Portman attractive???

Well if you like a woman that looks like an anaemic 14-year-old boy perhaps. Personally I like women to have curves in all the right places and to be natural blondes if possible. But above all else European. I couldn’t be romantically involved with a Jew let alone the awful Jewish American Princess type that is so common stateside.

Jimmy, I have no love for organized Jewry but John Locke and John Stuart Mill were not Jews and their modern day followers are not mainly Jews but sadly Euro liberals.

Think of these issue in terms of an immune system. We need to build a stronger and more robust set of socio-cultural antibodies so that toxic memes are simply not as virulent as they are presently. With the best will in the world liberal ideas cannot be eliminated, in toto, no matter who happens to be promoting them - but they can be rendered impotent and without traction, with a very necessary change and reorientation of our ontological stance (as a people). Of course the vast majority will never say the word, let alone understand it conceptually, but at a fundamental level this is what we are discussing.

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Posted by dc on November 25, 2011, 03:47 PM | #

Quite extraordinary how so many get side-tracked by t&a. I adore the beauty of the woman I love; that’s enough.

I can only second Alaric, and especially Helvena who had the second to last on-topic comment.

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Posted by dc on November 25, 2011, 03:56 PM | #

And one more thing. While salivating over female bed attractions, spare a thought for women readers who are mentally shunted into the meat market.

Bloody fools. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

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Posted by Desmond Jones on November 25, 2011, 04:09 PM | #

Who, as a group, is, was, and always will be, the most ardent foe of this discrimination, which you advocate?

Nationalists, pan-Nationalists and WNs.

According to Stoddard, the Pan-Germanists used the growing consciousness of Nordicism as a political expedient. The dominance of a Boasian school of anthropology did not arise until the 1930s.

The supreme value of Nordic blood was clearly analyzed by the French thinker Count Arthur de Gobineau as early as 1854 1 (albeit Gobineau employed the misleading “Aryan” terminology), and his thesis was subsequently elaborated by many other writers, notably by Englishmen, Germans, and Scandinavians.

  The results of all this were plainly apparent by the closing years of the nineteenth century. Quickened Nordic race-consciousness played an important part in stimulating Anglo-American fraternization, and induced acts like the Oxford Scholarship legacy of Cecil Rhodes. The trend of this movement, though crosscut by nationalistic considerations, was clearly in the direction of a Nordic entente—a Pan-Nordic syndication of power for the safeguarding of the race-heritage and the harmonious evolution of the whole white world.

  It was a glorious aspiration, which, had it been realized, would have averted Armageddon.

  Unfortunately the aspiration remained a dream The ill-balanced tendencies of the late nineteenth century were against it, and they ultimately prevailed. The abnormal growth of national-imperialism, in particular, wrought fatal havoc. The exponents of imperialistic propagandas like Pan-Germanism and Pan-Slavism put forth literally boundless pretensions, planning the domination of the entire planet by their special brand of national-imperialism. Such men had scant regard for race-lines. All who stood outside their particular nationalistic group were vowed to the same subjection.

  Indeed, the national-imperialists presently seized upon race teaching, and prostituted them to their own ends. A notable example of this is the extreme Pan-German propaganda of Houston Stewart Chamberlain 1 and his fellows. Chamberlain makes two cardinal assumptions: he conceives modern Germany as racially almost purely Nordic; and he regards all Nordics outside the German linguistic-cultural group as either unconscious [estranged?] or renegade Teutons who must at all costs be brought into the German fold. To any one who understands the scientific realities of race, the monstrous absurdity of these assumptions is instantly apparent. The fact is that modern Germany, far from being purely Nordic, is mainly Alpine in race. Nordic blood preponderates only in the northwest, and is merely veneered over the rest of Germany, especially in the upper classes. While the Germania of Roman days was unquestionably a Nordic land, it has been computed that of the 70,000,000 inhabitants of the German Empire in 1914, only 9,000,000 were purely Nordic in character. This displacement of the German Nordics since classic times is chiefly due to Germany’s troubled history, especially to the horrible Thirty Years’ War which virtually annihilated the Nordics of south Germany. This racial displacement has wrought correspondingly profound changes in the character of the German people.

  The truth of the matter is, of course, that the PanGermans were thinking in terms of nationality instead of race, and that they were using pseudo-racial arguments as camouflage for essentially political ends. The pity of it is that these arguments have had such disastrous repercussions in the genuine racial sphere. The late war has not only exploded Pan-Germanism, it has also discredited Nordic race-feeling, so unjustly confused by many persons with Pan-German nationalistic propaganda.


The Rising Tide of Color against White World-Supremacy p. 200-202

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Posted by Graham_Lister on November 25, 2011, 05:17 PM | #

Hey I love my beautiful wife and the lovely children we have created together (no ‘meat market’ stuff was intended by my lighthearted comment).

We ordinary people cannot typically participate in cultural, political or scientific affairs that could be considered to transcend our own death, but the ‘transcendental’ project that is open to almost everyone is that of continuity through family life, which in its specifics is, of course, but one thread in the tapestry of our collective continuity - our ongoing collective story, our shared inheritance. Is this not love’s work? I love my own children’s lives more than my own.

We can of course intellectually understand this phenomenon via abstract models of genetics and inclusive-fitness theory, but as a lived, phenomenological experience, it is best summed up as a fierce attachment to the ordinary everyday ‘this’ of the world and expressed most completely in my relationships to the particular people whom I love, and with a deep loyalty and gratitude to all those previous generations that made my ability to enjoy this possible. We cannot truly and authentically embrace the ‘telescopic philanthropy’ of Mrs Jellyby.

People who claim to love ‘everyone’ etc., are either deluded, dishonest, or do not understand what love is. Love is always a local emotion, concerned and focused upon the particular. No normal parent could honestly say they love, for example children in China, equally as do their own. I do not wish harm upon Chinese children, or African children, or indeed Jewish children; I would take no joy in their suffering but I do have more concern (a form of enlightened self-interest) in the general well-being of my neighbour’s children (culturally/genetically) and even more for my own. I refuse to be found ‘guilty’ for simply being human.

As for Mr. Haller he does strike me as a queer creature. From an over-obsession with all things money, then to a love of mostly Jewish ‘thinkers’ and their dubious economic pseudoscience, to his embracing of Jesuit sophistry as an model of thought, to his proclaiming how ‘hot’ certain Jews and Asians are, and indeed even to the name of his idée fixe (‘White Zion’) I would, if being uncharitable, suggest that we are all being trolled, very, very hard indeed.

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Posted by Jimmy Marr on November 25, 2011, 05:26 PM | #

Jimmy, I have no love for organized Jewry

Yeah. I know what you mean. I have no problem with unorganized Jewry.

In truth, I can’t say that I’ve ever encountered it.

Is it anything like a trunkless elephant?

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Posted by Graham_Lister on November 25, 2011, 06:24 PM | #

Jimmy

I was thinking of people like Norman Finkelstein or Peter Novick, both Jewish writers that have, in they own ways, heavily questioned both the ideologically driven obsession with the Holocaust (within the Jewish community) and its wider ‘externally’ directed ideological use by the Jewish community in their interactions with others.

Now, whatever their ultimate motives might be, surely they are slightly more honourable men than say the utterly duplicitous Abe Foxman? Of course one can say that ‘on average’ such a group typically behaves in X way (and be broadly correct), but one subtly of human experience is that there is always some scope for individual variation in behaviour, character and moral virtue. Outliers do exist.

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Posted by Jimmy Marr on November 25, 2011, 07:35 PM | #

Outliers do exist

They do indeed, but as a group, Jews outlie all others.

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Posted by Jimmy Marr on November 25, 2011, 07:52 PM | #

Oceanic outliers

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Posted by Leon Haller on November 25, 2011, 08:14 PM | #

Silver,

[I posted this reply to you on another thread, but you may not have seen it and the thread may have petered out, so I re-post here.]

I appreciate that you’ve directed a number of lengthy comments my way recently to which I mostly have not adequately responded (certainly not to the extent that I would like). Please note: I am now just too busy to be doing commenting much anymore, at least until the Christmas holidays - and by that point, I may have lost the taste for these ideological chatrooms that I’ve acquired over the past decade. I’m back in school and have an enormous amount of reading, including extra-curricular stuff over holidays for my eventual dissertation.

Also, some friends are putting together an American nationalism site (not WN, but with overlapping concerns) to which I might devote most of my online energies (such as they will be) in the future (I will probably spread the word about it here and elsewhere once I know it’s up and running). And once that site is up, I remain interested in also possibly contributing to a White Zion site, if a decent one is already in existence, or creating my own, at least as an interactive blog, if that’s the right term (ie, one where I will post material, and then allow for comments, as at MR).

Basically, I’m getting less interested in what might be called “intermediate theoretical (WN) debates”, such as we all partake in at MR (I mean the serious persons; there is a lot of trash, here, too - see “Alaric”). I want to conduct, in print, foundational discussions with high level intellectuals on issues of Occidental survival, but otherwise, my online-specific interests are moving more in the direction of practical organizing (which is the planned orientation of the American “national conservative” site), and this on two radically separate fronts, the first being defense of Middle (white) American interests (here the issues would be similar to WN ones, but the emphasis would be on whites-as-victims, sans discussions of racial supremacism, the JQ, scientific race differences, WW2 revisionism, etc - basically all the stuff that brands WNs “extremists”, and that is finally tangential to getting real legislation actually moved in our direction); and the second being a forum for practical discussions re WZ (in other words, the blog would assume that all are in agreement with the basic ideas of white preservation, race issues and WN foreign colonization, and that’s it’s time to start figuring out the feasibility of the project, and then the paths to transforming this vision into a reality).

[BTW, Silver, re WZ: you live in Australia, yet I’m surprised that I cannot recall your weighing in on the WZ idea, at least wrt Australia, Tasmania, and/or New Zealand. I’ve broached these issues even here on this thread. What are the whites like in Oz? Specifically, is Australian national policy now to encourage immigration? And which option would the white Aussies prefer: 1) no immigrants at all, 2) more white immigrants, 3) white immigrants in lieu of nonwhites, or 4) nonwhites in preference to being seen as ‘racists’? Basically, how easy would it be for lots of whites to move to Oz, and acquire citizenship there? And how easy once there to reside (or at least acquire property) in Tasmania? I’d appreciate any answers.]

Bottom line is that I’m soon to exit MR (I’ve said that before, but real world time constraints are forcing my hand this time). My work here has, I think, also hit a wall, especially as the majority of intellectually respectable commenters at MR seems to have moved on. Before exiting, I would like to comment briefly, however, on this:

I prefer the term “psychology” because I think it gets at the emotional aspect more so than does “ethics.”  It’s at the level of emotion that people are moved to undertake an action or give their assent to an action being undertaken (or not undertaken).  When people claim very forcefully that something is “wrong” (or “right”) it’s because it feels so wrong (or right) to them, and if you don’t accept or acknowledge their feelings all the philosophizing in the world won’t help you.  It’s like me trying to convince you to strangle your mother (I presume you love her).  What difference could any “reasoning” I provide possibly make?  It’s flatly wrong and that’s all there is to it.  When it comes to race, people simply feel bad about it. It makes them feel uncomfortable.  They can feel so uncomfortable about it that they refuse to enter into any discussion.  Dry, detached, distant ethical arguments simply do not get at the heart of what bugs people about race; people remain unconvinced and they refuse to tell you why they’re unconvinced, which often has nothing to do with any systematic ethical thinking on their part. (Silver)

I do think you’re talking mostly here about the psychology of liberals, a group which I regard as nearly genetically lost (and which will be eventually). I said all this before, at some length. In fact, you know what originally brought me to MR? Some years ago, I wrote a very lengthy comment on white extinction at takimag. Someone copied my comment here at MR, and then a WN friend who frequented MR back in the day told me about it.

Anyway, I don’t propose to try to reach the white liberal, ever. Race is visceral. Either you get it (‘it’ being that whites are the true victims of multiculturalism), or you don’t. This is not like, say, economics, where one can patiently explain the errors of socialism and Keynesianism, and possibly make converts to correct views. Granted, there are some specific policies on which openminded liberals (not a large group in the best of times) might be amenable to ideological change based on dispassionate scientific demonstrations of the reality of racial differences (eg, disproportionate black failures on a firefighters’ entrance exam not being caused by racial test bias, or heavy black arrest rates not being due to police racism).

But in general, a white who ‘feels’ that it’s wrong even to discuss racial differences, or white survivalism, etc, is probably harboring some racially defective gene combination which will eventually result in his white gene line becoming racially polluted (and thus removed from the future white story). At some point, in a multiracial, integrationist context, all racially ‘weak’ white gene lines will eventually succumb to miscegenation. Over time, therefore, whites can be expected, ceteris paribus, to become more, not less, racist, even as they continually, again ceteris paribus, dwindle in numbers (this phenomenon is happening wrt Jewry right this very minute: only the most ethnocentric Jews - the really “Jewish Jews” - are for the most part continuing to marry Jews; most of my Jewish friends have non-Jewish spouses - another reason, incidentally, why the JQ may well never gain much traction in white American life: far too many whites in my generation and younger now have a Jewish ‘relative’).

No, my concern is with those whites who dislike the ‘diversification’ of America (or other Western nations), who know in their hearts that races differ, and that generally whites are better (not to mention their preferred neighbors, colleagues, and friends), but who think that ‘acting racially’, that is, political organizing by whites, for whites, either to protect white interests, or to promote WZ or the ethnostate as a distant goal, is just plain morally wrong. In my life, I have known many, many persons like this. Scared of (white) racism, but anxious about nonwhites and their coming domination. I would even say that “psychology” is the dominant one among at least American whites (and maybe whites elsewhere). That is the group for whom I think changing the ethics of race is of vital importance.

(And let me add, the kinds of comments seen here, at Stormfront, and similar venues, are absolutely never going to resonate positively with white majorities, at least until those majorities have been reduced to powerless demographic/electoral minorities - a repeatedly demonstrated, “onto-phenomenological” fact that WNs fail to appreciate, and which will continue to consign them, and more importantly, responsible and necessary white preservationists, to political impotence - to the grave detriment of our race and civilization.)

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Posted by Leon Haller on November 25, 2011, 08:29 PM | #

Leon Haller is the most dullardly, gutter White trash moron on this website. This idiotic clown seriously thinks these yentas who spend all day at the plastic surgeons table are beautiful. Unbelievable. He apparently has never viewed before-after photos of these disgusting jew tarts, widely available on the internet. (ALaric)

I don’t surf the internet checking out women. Frankly, little man, I don’t have to. I mentioned Jewish women only because I clicked on the link ex-uh provided.

Incidentally, what evidence do you have that Portman has had extensive plastic surgery? I still recall seeing her in the ‘95 or ‘96 film Beautiful Girls (I think that was the title; no, I don’t do google checks for everything I say), and turning to my date that night and saying that she was going to grow up to be a very beautiful woman. Most of the normal world would (does) agree with me.

Talk is cheap. Write something which demonstrates real intellect, or fuck off and go back to shaving your head and beating up pre-pubescent pakis (while shitting in your pants and cowering under your grandma’s apron when the nigger-colonists go rampaging across “Great” Britain).

Pathetic loser (and he’s hardly alone).

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Posted by Leon Haller on November 25, 2011, 08:37 PM | #

What is so pathetic here is the unwillingness even to acknowledge something undeniably positive about someone else simply because he/she belongs to a disfavored out-group.

The cretins here calling into question the beauty of women like Portman and Kunis are either faggots, or kidding themselves. I can tell these jokers would not know what to do if Kunis walked over and sat in their laps. They would turn red and start blustering incoherently.

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Posted by Leon Haller on November 25, 2011, 08:54 PM | #

Lister,

Yes, yes, this is all standard conservatism, in your case directly filtered through Scruton. Nothing even slightly original. I wonder, though, whether Dr. Scruton would agree with your assessment of Portman’s appearance; your casual (read: “utterly ignorant”) dismissal of millennia of Catholic thought; your buffoonish characterization of a genius like Ludwig von Mises (of course, you and I both know, even if the crushingly ignorant hoi polloi lurking about here do not, that you have read either nothing or virtually nothing by him, and that you dislike the ‘Austrians’ because you incorrectly associate them with contemporary neoliberalism of the ‘open borders’ variety, which you know perfectly well I oppose as strongly as you); or your implication that non-Nordic women cannot be considered objectively attractive (there is a true howler, setting you against perhaps 99.9% of the planet). 

And I do not obsess over money (I would not have returned to grad school to study theology if that were the case - duh).

(Oh, and “Zion” has a long history understood to connote ‘refuge’. It also serves to highlight our case viz the hypocrisy of the Jews: if they can have a homeland, why can’t we? Also, note that there are others on the web, with whom I have no affiliation or contact, who also speak of “White Zion”.)

Try to show some decent manners.

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Posted by Jimmy Marr on November 25, 2011, 08:57 PM | #

God save the Queen (and the outliars)

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Posted by ex-uh on November 25, 2011, 09:51 PM | #

Leon,

8:29 — bravo.

Incidentally, what evidence do you have that Portman has had extensive plastic surgery?

Well, you’ve all missed the point. You chose two of the most unjewish Jewesses in Hymiewood, first. Kunis and Portman are a refinement of the old goyish front — Jewesses who don’t look Jewish: perfect tool. No more “self-hating”, yet appeals to the goyim.

So those choices say little or nothing about the shaggability of Jewish girls. I mean of all the women assembled at the epic seductivejewess blog, you pick two Russian Jews who couldn’t look more like shiksas of other races.

Second, the WNtard has to employ the plastic surgery canard to reassure himself that Jewesses are so ugly that only thereby can they be made presentable. To be sure, Jewesses ARE very fond of plastic surgery, and I may be at the world’s second international hub (Miami). See ‘em every day.

Third, I really wanted to bang Kunis when she was on that show. These days she looks like other Russian girls I’ve seen around town. Tiny nose, big blue eyes, dark hair. This isn’t an exotic type in Ukraine, at least. They’re not nearly all snow bunnies. Big ur-population there.

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Posted by Yeager on November 25, 2011, 10:29 PM | #

Natalie Portman does look Jewish. And Mila Kunis looks Middle Eastern or Hispanic.

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Posted by Leon Haller on November 25, 2011, 10:51 PM | #

ex-uh,

I didn’t mention those two on purpose, or as a result of visiting the jewess site. They were just the first two I thought of. I knew Portman was Jewish a long time ago. i was rather happy about the accuracy of my ‘jewdar’ wrt Kunis, however. I got dragged to the forgettable Friends With Benefits, and during the show I started to wonder if Kunis wasn’t a seductive Jewess. A google check later, sure enough (mind you, I disagree with you there - I did think she looked Jewish - though not stereotypical, Streisandish, however), and I was wondering too about the name.

Anyway, I’ve known many attractive Jewish girls, growing up, in college, and in business. Of course, Nordics are better looking on average - but I think Southern European women (especially Northern Italians) are the very best looking of all. To each his own. Hotness is hotness.

Also, I;m not sure Jewesses are as big on ethnicity-expunging surgery as in the past. Yes, they get a lot of surgery, in part because they can afford it (and they don’t have any lingering Calvinist guilt or family pressure about sinful ‘vanity’). But it tends today to be more of the general correcting correctable flaws approach, rather than the elimination of the Jewish schnozz that was so common in upperclass LA back in the 70s and 80s of my youth.

[I forgot to add earlier than anyone who didn’t think Portman/Kunis were hot in Black Swan is definitely a homosexual, or sexual deviant otherwise.]

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Posted by Leon Haller on November 25, 2011, 11:04 PM | #

Great Britain, or Lost Britain?

Re Germany etc, check out these bastards at THE ECONOMIST:

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Dear leon haller,


The attached comment, posted under the pen name Leon Haller, has been deleted from The Economist online.  The comment was removed because it breaks our comments policy:

http://www.economist.com/legal/terms-of-use#usercontent

We remind you that repeated violation of our comments policy may result in your being blocked from posting comments on The Economist online.


Yours sincerely,

Comments Moderator The Economist online


Your comment:

God bless Germania! May she rise to her true and proper preeminence again!
The Southern nations are economic leeches and criminals. DESTROY THE EURO
NOW! Germany should leave it at once. Become even more capitalist (but keep
out all new immigrants, start repatriating non-Germans), export to Asia and
rising Latin America, let the European parasites know that la dolce vita is
OVER!!! Europe has been utterly disgusting in all its politics and culture
since the 1960s. End everything, return to ancient basics, like racial pride,
bourgeois ethics, and historic, hierarchical Christianity. Europeans must start WORKING again;
no more southern corruption, but much more northern rectitude.

Germany (a much more rightist Germany, admittedly) must take its rightful
place as THE leader of Europe. It should beef up its military, enact tax law
changes to encourage domestic white over-fertility, return to a goldmark,
reestablish pre-war capitalism, encourage eugenicist legislation to combat IQ
decline, and then refuse to help any other European nation in any way unless
it too shall clean up its act.

Europe is dying. But it could be saved by a hard turn to the RIGHT!

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That’s just disgraceful. Every worthless leftist peon comments at the site. Did I use epithets? Did I attack any other commenter personally?

Britain may be an even more occupied nation than the US. But, says Graham Lister, Third World Labourism is still preferable to the real enemy - Darwin forbid! - American free markets (I think I understand now - you teach at a public university, and thus receive a government paycheck, don’t you Graham?).

14 words

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Posted by ex-uh on November 25, 2011, 11:19 PM | #

I didn’t mention those two on purpose, or as a result of visiting the jewess site.

I know. That’s rather my point — your taste doesn’t select pureblood Jews.

though not stereotypical, Streisandish, however)

Well, I don’t doubt your ‘jewdar’ went off; we’ve all experienced that with these ever so slightly ‘off’ girls we can’t readily assign to this or that group, which is often the very thing that indicates Jewishness.

But that ‘stereotypical’ look is the true core of Jewry, bear in mind — the Ashkenazi. If it isn’t Ashkenazi, it’s a marginal type doing work for the Ashkenazim, be it a Russian “Israeli” bouncer, an American actress, or whatever.

Though come to think of it, I guess “Kunis” is yet another variant of Cohen?

but I think Southern European women (especially Northern Italians) are the very best looking of all.

Well, I’m with you there. Ever been to Buenos Aires or Montevideo? God have mercy!

But it tends today to be more of the general correcting correctable flaws approach, rather than the elimination of the Jewish schnozz that was so common in upperclass LA back in the 70s and 80s of my youth.

True. To be fair, only older Jewish women have it done here. I never see Jewish girls in face bandages as I do some Latinas. They’ve shed their guilt at being Jewish ... this being the crest of the Jewish epoch. Also, it’s worth remembering, hair dye and makeup were entirely the production of New York Jewesses ... names forgotten, but easy to search. Little shriveled Jewish women with black hair selling bleach and dye to women to change their appearance.

There’s actually a little yiddish creature works at this vegetable market down the way who seems to eye me when I go there to shop. Eerily, looks somewhat like Amy Winehouse, but a foot shorter, very slender, cute t & a, with that bewitching blue eyes / black hair / white skin combo that never fails to wreck my head completely. Dresses like ghetto trash, which I suppose she must be. It’s been so long since I’ve received an IOI or even thought about this stuff, I am not sure if I want to act on it. A ghetto Jewess working at a vegetable market. I’m very eager to work the Amy Winehouse angle on her somehow — give that hamster a rude shove off the wheel, ya dig.

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Posted by Yeager on November 25, 2011, 11:45 PM | #

Amy Winehouse is absolutely horrid and repulsive looking. Nothing remotely resembling that creature can be considered attractive. You and Haller have a peculiar taste for mediocre and extremely ugly Jewesses.

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Posted by Robert Reis on November 26, 2011, 02:32 AM | #

Holocaust by the Numbers

The Time to Fully Cremate A Body, Using Modern Forced Gas-Jet Chambers takes around 2.5 hours, and even then, the larger bones aren’t turned to ash, it takes a mechanical crusher to fully turn the body into ash.
Then you have to let the crematorium cool down so you can safely remove the ashes and bones, which places the total cremation time around 3 hours.
http://www.nfda.org/planning-a-funeral/cremation/160.html#long

Now let’s do a little math and apply ACTUAL science to the BIGGEST lie of all time, the Holocaust™, using only time required to cremate a body back in the 1940’s.

You can search for the actual length of the Holocaust, but the most common time frame is from 1941 to 1945.


Holocaust™ by the numbers

Number Of Bodies = 6,000,000

6,000,000 Bodies X 3.5 Hrs (Time needed to cremate a human corpse)= 21,000,000 Hrs

21,000,000 Hrs Divided By 24 Hours = 875,000 Days

875,000 Days Divided by 365 Days= 2,397 Years

1 Crematorium Chamber would take 2,397 Years to cremate 6,000,000 bodies working 24/7

5 Crematorium Chambers would take 479.5 Years to cremate 6,000,000 bodies working 24/7

10 Crematorium Chambers would take 239.7 Years to cremate 6,000,000 bodies working 24/7

20 Crematorium Chambers would take 119.9 Years to cremate 6,000,000 bodies working 24/7

40 Crematorium Chambers would take 60 Years to cremate 6,000,000 bodies working 24/7

80 Crematorium Chambers would take 30 Years to cremate 6,000,000 bodies working 24/7

A furnance/crematorium CAN’T work 24/7, as the fire bricks eventually break apart and need to be replaced, taking many off line for repair and maintenance.

Add in a few more years for upkeep and you’ll see the ‘official’ Holocaust™ story just doesn’t make sense.
http://careandwashingofthebrain.blogspot.com/2011/11/burn-in-hell-you-deniers-of-holocaust.html

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Posted by ex-uh on November 26, 2011, 05:30 AM | #

Amy Winehouse is absolutely horrid and repulsive looking. Nothing remotely resembling that creature can be considered attractive. You and Haller have a peculiar taste for mediocre and extremely ugly Jewesses.

We have many tastes. That’s one of mine, yes. She was all right in her younger days —

http://m.blog.hu/re/recorder/image/REC-2011-07/amy-guitar2.jpg
http://www3.images.coolspotters.com/photos/102570/amy-winehouse-and-smoking-gallery.jpg

Nothing to bring home to mum, but certainly to bed.

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Posted by Alaric on November 26, 2011, 07:58 AM | #

Anyone who finds jews - much less filthy jewesses like Amy Crackhouse - sexually attractive, is a degenerate who needs a lead bath. Lots of filthy Anglo turds on this website. And the cunt Haller thinks I’m British! Bwahhah.

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Posted by jamesUK on November 26, 2011, 12:13 PM | #

Anyone who thinks Portman or Kunis is average looking is either a) delusional or b) lives in Sweden.

Who is the Circassian guy that commented on MR before I wanted to ask him a few questions?

Does he still post here?

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Posted by amspirnationaist on November 26, 2011, 05:29 PM | #

I would regard Dugin as an antidote to von Hoffmeister and would regard a Russ German (and other party, Eurasianist) anti-Zionist, anti-American Empire alliance or soft alliance as a positive, not least for American nationalists who oppose Empire and who believe the decisively popular appeal to our founding ethnic core’s revival cannot occur until the dismantling of such.

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Posted by ex-uh on November 26, 2011, 05:39 PM | #

Does he still post here?

Didn’t “Ivan” show up the other day?

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Posted by Leon Haller on November 26, 2011, 07:46 PM | #

I saw a copy of the latest GQ, with Kunis on the cover. If Alaric doesn’t think she’s hot, he’s 100% queer.

It would be excellent for the cause of white preservation if there were to be a Berlin/Moscow WN axis, even if anti-American, even if anti-Christian (though I would prefer militantly anti-liberal + traditionalist Christian - unfortunately I think the possibility of this is slim). The ‘New Aryan Barbarians’ can always be recivilized at a later date. What is always of maximum importance is the preservation of blood purity (on that point I think we can all agree, even snotty teen homos like Alaric).

The Russians might be up for this, but Germania ain’t what it used to be.

There are a lot of combinations which would aid white survival. Easy to imagine, hard to actualize.

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Posted by Leon Haller on November 26, 2011, 08:14 PM | #

The undying “Indian/Chinese IQ” thread is turning into a Hindu/Muslim/Chinese mudbath, but I remain struck by the following from the actual article:

As a very criterion-oriented psychometrician

And note that verbal ability is the core element in IQ.  If you want a quick index of IQ, vocabulary size is the best available shortcut measure.(jonjayray)

Was the author of this now ancient post actually a psychometrician? And is it agreed that verbal ability is the core element of IQ? I would have thought math ability warranted that honor, but I’d be interested in hearing an explanation of this assertion from any of the more scientific chaps hereabouts.

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Posted by danielj on November 26, 2011, 09:16 PM | #

I would have thought math ability warranted that honor

I think mid to high verbal IQ is generally indicative of moderate mathematical ability.

Regardless, verbal IQ has some measure of “social IQ” included in it. I think it is a better indicator of overall intelligence.

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Posted by Leon Haller on November 27, 2011, 02:49 AM | #

Who precisely is this young Constantin von Hoffmeister (name itself sounds most suspicious)? Does anyone know his background: verified ancestry, birthplace, schools attended, professional associations, bona fides vouched for?

Regardless of what this man says about Israel, anyone advocating any form of Bolshevism must eventually be liquidated. Bolshevism is permanently (indeed, using fashionable MR cant, let us say, ‘ontologically’) at war with Western civilization. Everything the true Occidentalist defends - moral (Christian) hierarchy, racial and ethnic particularity, sexual differentiation, bourgeois rectitude, open intellectual inquiry, private property, inequality and the pursuit of excellence - has at one time been condemned by Bolsheviks. In the modern age, of course, Jewry has been the main purveyor of this ideological virus.

I am not certain whether von Hoff is merely confused; a pursuer after the limelight; or a sower of discord and disinformation. He must be approached carefully.

(Personally, re Israel, I subscribe to a middle ground: Israel is exactly what it appears to be, the Zionist homeland. It is not a truly Western nation, either racially, obviously, or culturally - and it is becoming ever less so, as the Orthodox rabidly outbreed the original secularist Ashkenazim. On the other hand, the great current enemy is the Islamic arc, which now extends deeply into Europe and even N. America. Israel needs the West far more than we need it. Perhaps we can make some use of it. But we must proceed with great caution.)

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Posted by Mr Voight on November 27, 2011, 06:04 AM | #

Leon, can you really not see why your comment was deleted at a site like that? Or why you encountered trouble at the English policeman’s blog with your glorious racial pronouncements? Bull in a china shop.

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Posted by Chip Farley on November 27, 2011, 06:18 AM | #

Jewish women are not necessarily unattractive. There have been many hot ones in the movies (eg, right now, Natalie Portman, Mila Kunis, others I can’t remember).

There are quite a few attractive Jewesses, some from the recent past I like include Phoebe Cates, Winona Ryder ( so cute in ‘Welcome Home, Roxy Carmichael’), and Lisa Loeb. 

Why is this?  How could an Aryan with an inborn masculine Heroic-Solar-Uranian Race-Soul possibly be attracted to a Jewess?

The answer lies in the writings of Otto Weininger:

“In a separate chapter, Weininger, himself a Jew who had converted to Christianity in 1902, analyzes the archetypical Jew as feminine, and thus profoundly irreligious, without true individuality (soul), and without a sense of good and evil.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_and_Character#Negative_archetypal_characteristics_of_Jews


Clearly the archetypal masculine Aryan man may find himself ‘naturally’ attracted to his exact opposite the archetypal feminine Jewish woman!  However they are in a strong archetypal form remember the warnings of Otto Weininger!: beware the black widow spider Jewess!

Here is the solution:

“By contrast, the duty of the male, or the masculine aspect of personality, is to strive to become a genius, and to forgo sexuality for an abstract love of the absolute, God, which he finds within himself.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_and_Character#Forgoing_love_for_the_absolute

Don’t touch the ‘forbidden fruit’.

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Posted by Chip Farley on November 27, 2011, 06:26 AM | #

breaking news… breaking…

Dr. David Duke arrested in Germany!

http://www.whitecivilrights.com/?p=6335#more-6335

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Posted by ex-uh on November 27, 2011, 07:44 AM | #

There are quite a few attractive Jewesses, some from the recent past I like include Phoebe Cates, Winona Ryder ( so cute in ‘Welcome Home, Roxy Carmichael’), and Lisa Loeb.

None of whom is identifiably Ashkenazi. You see my point, Haller? Now here’s where it becomes really strange ...

Why is this?  How could an Aryan with an inborn masculine Heroic-Solar-Uranian Race-Soul possibly be attracted to a Jewess?

First, ZLOLZZOZLZZ. Second, why don’t you ask one a Jewess sometime? I mean if you can’t picture yourself asking a woman exactly that, what right do you have to even ask, past being an internet reactionary?

 

However they are in a strong archetypal form remember the warnings of Otto Weininger!: beware the black widow spider Jewess!

How is this an improvement on MajikFireHornet’s theory that Jewesses are seductive ‘cause they have large breasts and dark eyes? ever been “seduced” by a real Jewess, Chippy? ever seen one in real life?

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Posted by ex-uh on November 27, 2011, 07:46 AM | #

Dr. David Duke arrested in Germany!

Fool. Even I know not to go to Germany. Why do some well-known WNs make a spectacle of themselves?

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Posted by ex-uh on November 27, 2011, 08:00 AM | #

Who precisely is this young Constantin von Hoffmeister (name itself sounds most suspicious)? Does anyone know his background: verified ancestry, birthplace, schools attended, professional associations, bona fides vouched for?

Constantin’s on the level. Listen to Soren’s terrible interview with him from a couple years ago; he gives a very complete autobiography.

As for professional associations, he is a long-standing member (lolzozlz) of the Dada Rotary Klub of East Berlin.

must eventually be liquidated.

Whenever I hear someone calling for someone else’s liquidation because of some silly idea he entertains, I reach for my Likwidator 2000 Musheen and liquidate them instead.

Everything the true Occidentalist defends - moral (Christian) hierarchy, racial and ethnic particularity, sexual differentiation, bourgeois rectitude, open intellectual inquiry, private property, inequality and the pursuit of excellence - has at one time been condemned by Bolsheviks.

And yet ... Communism did a far better job on ensuring borders and ethnic integrity for the subject populations than capitalism. Removing incentives, the Kommi-Ostmark kept blood aliens out and everyone else in: a de facto racial state. Let’s forget theory, or what Trotsky wrote to Kautsky in a letter from Mexico about dissolving national loyalties, etc. Is this side-effect of Communism negligible merely because private property and free enterprise suffered? Or let me ask this way: If you had a lordly choice, would you take a state that encourages family, discourages Western pop kulchur, and negates the very grounds for immigration if it means keeping a race intact — or one such as we have now that allows free enterprise but which jeopardizes the integrity of the race?

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Posted by Lurker on November 27, 2011, 08:18 AM | #

These lists of good looking jewish girls always seem to feature girls who are mixed, Im surprised Scarlett Johansson or Sarah Michelle Gellar havent been wheeled out yet.

Just as in the Indian beauty thread Indian chauvanists get themselves all excited over Indian beauties, girls who could pass for white in most cases.

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Posted by Lurker on November 27, 2011, 08:21 AM | #

Alaric - Ive never met any bloke who found Amy Crackhouse remotely attractive. Most guys reaction is “Ugh!”

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Posted by Leon Haller on November 27, 2011, 08:37 AM | #

Whenever I hear someone calling for someone else’s liquidation because of some silly idea he entertains, I reach for my Likwidator 2000 Musheen and liquidate them instead. ex-uh


The liquidator of the liquidator of Bolshevism must himself be liquidated.


“Likwidator 2000 Musheen” - wtf?!

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Posted by Leon Haller on November 27, 2011, 08:40 AM | #

Leon, can you really not see why your comment was deleted at a site like that? Or why you encountered trouble at the English policeman’s blog with your glorious racial pronouncements? Bull in a china shop. (Voight)

My battle at the police blog was conducted extremely moderately (at least at first, before the comment liquidations began). I simply pointed out that the looters were predominantly black, and wouldn’t UK have been better off if it had followed Enoch Powell? Hardly radical.

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Posted by Mr Voight on November 27, 2011, 08:41 AM | #

Why do some well-known WNs make a spectacle of themselves?

Because social intelligence is too Jewy.

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Posted by Leon Haller on November 27, 2011, 08:44 AM | #

Re Winehouse: with max ‘help’, she could look OK:

http://cdn.inquisitr.com/wp-content/2011/07/amy-winehouse-huffpo-.jpg

Other net pictures of her are pretty hideous.

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Posted by Leon Haller on November 27, 2011, 09:01 AM | #

Communism did a far better job on ensuring borders and ethnic integrity for the subject populations than capitalism. Removing incentives, the Kommi-Ostmark kept blood aliens out and everyone else in: a de facto racial state. Let’s forget theory, or what Trotsky wrote to Kautsky in a letter from Mexico about dissolving national loyalties, etc. Is this side-effect of Communism negligible merely because private property and free enterprise suffered? Or let me ask this way: If you had a lordly choice, would you take a state that encourages family, discourages Western pop kulchur, and negates the very grounds for immigration if it means keeping a race intact — or one such as we have now that allows free enterprise but which jeopardizes the integrity of the race?(exuh)


But this isn’t true!

The Soviets brought Mongolian and other savages into European Russia (and Eastern Europe) for purposes of maintaining control. They encouraged interethnic/racial marriages within USSR (not that all that many occurred). They and the East Europeans also brought hordes of communist nonwhites into both Russia and Europe, including East Germany, which had a sizable Vietnamese population discovered upon the fall of the Wall (I wonder what happened to them - still there?).

The commies also were mostly brutally anti-family (Romania was an exception). Birthrates declined in the Warsaw Pact every bit as severely as in Western Europe (the exception being still-Catholic - thank God - Poland).

You are purveying a myth.

Our system does not of necessity jeopardize the race. That reveals typically myopic, modern-WN ignorance of history. We abandoned white-only immigration in the US in 1965. That had everything to do with race liberalism, nothing whatsoever to do with capitalism. The latter accusation grows out of a series of ex post facto rationalizations and/or opportunistic justifications (on the part of the neoliberal globalist business lobby).

The Old America was white, Christian, and capitalist - the greatest system in the history of the world.

In the 20th century white + Jewish liberals set out systematically to dismantle the ‘Old Regime’, destroying its Christian and capitalist and Constitutional and racial foundations. This was politically plotted and instigated. There was not a shred of ‘historical necessity’ about this, various ‘ontologists’ lurking about here notwithstanding.

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Posted by ex-uh on November 27, 2011, 09:05 AM | #

These lists of good looking jewish girls always seem to feature girls who are mixed, Im surprised Scarlett Johansson or Sarah Michelle Gellar havent been wheeled out yet.

I know! That’s what I’m saying. Like the yeshivas and kibbutzes and Macy’s outlets are filled Portmans, Kunises and Johanssons. Have these guys ever been to New Jersey, or is there sum experience of Jews as people limited to Hollyweird? don’t they understand that these girls are whom Jews promote as part of the Illusion?

There must be some name for this little heuristic bias — mistaking exceptions as representative.

Re Winehouse: with max ‘help’, she could look OK:

Again, she was hot when underage (US law, not UK — don’t censor me beta spergmeister!). But this is beside the point; I help up Crackhouse as an example of race, not of loveliness ... clearly. Alaric’s just hostile at everyone who isn’t Alaric.

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Posted by Leon Haller on November 27, 2011, 09:38 AM | #

I’ve dated a Jewish girl, and screwed a couple of others. I know lots of them in real life. Like other whites (sorry, but the Jewesses I have known all looked very white), some are pretty, some not.

“this little heuristic bias” -sure you’re using that phrase correctly (“mistaking exceptions as representative”)?

I think it refers to extrapolating a general rule from a single instance (or too limited a sample) of something. Not necessarily ‘exceptional’.

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Posted by Chip Farley on November 27, 2011, 09:58 AM | #

First, ZLOLZZOZLZZ.

So I take it you think very little of Otto Weiningers theories.  Well that says alot.

ever been “seduced” by a real Jewess, Chippy? ever seen one in real life?

Actually a suspected Jewess has flirted with me before, she is a cashier at the local record store.  As far as seeing Jewesses in real life, I have seen plenty, I used to live in San Francisco which is a hot-bed of semitism.

Fool. Even I know not to go to Germany. Why do some well-known WNs make a spectacle of themselves?

So you do not believe that White People should have the freedom to travel?  Should Whites have to carry documents at all times and present them at guard-posts every few intervals like in the old Soviet Union or German Democratic Republic? 

The only thing Dr. David Duke is guilty of is attempting to use his Universal Declaration of Human Rights Article 19 Rights:

Article 19.

  Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.

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Posted by ex-uh on November 27, 2011, 10:24 AM | #

Jesus, my typos are really embarrassing.

And Leon,

The Soviets brought Mongolian and other savages into European Russia (and Eastern Europe) for purposes of maintaining control.

Did they? I don’t know the details. One day I will better inform myself. I know only that ethnic Russians were resettled throughout the empire, which isn’t a bad thing — they’re Nordic after all.

It is probably true that Mongolians or Kalmyks were employed as police or whatever, and they were predictably brutal about it. But honestly, Leon, if you don’t know that Russians themselves are brutal enough to each other, you don’t know the first thing about the Russian character.

They encouraged interethnic/racial marriages within USSR (not that all that many occurred)

Let our discourse not be so slippery — you brought up Bolsheviks, but I shifted perspective to Communism, which here you follow by referring to the USSR. Bolshevism and Stalinism / USSR are not identical, it should go without saying.

I did say, forget theory and what so-and-so wrote to whomever about breaking down ethnic resistance to Communism. As far as I know, Stalin achieved this more through messing with national borders / raion and stacking local gubernia than anything like an official miscegenist program as exists officially in France and unofficially here. There was simply no deification of the racial other nor state-enforced integration of races, and accordingly, you will not be able to come up with a single example of such — just as Linder could not when I challenged him on this very topic at his old Kirksville Today blog.

Leave aside what the Bolshevik agitators themselves wrote and believed; what matters is high politics and what really happened. Did Russia, the Baltic states, or East Germany become “melting pots” intolerable to the natives? or has that rather occurred under democracy — Caucasians in Moscow, Africans in Talinn and Helsinki, Turks in Berlin?

From that perspective, the Soviet state was not multiracial. But let me play the citation game and turn to Kuba himself. I hope shall be forgiven for this long excerpt from his own Marxism and The National Question:

... When seeking a solution of the [national] question we must take into account not only the situation at home but also the situation abroad. Russia is situated between Europe and Asia, between Austria and China. The growth of democracy in Asia is inevitable. The growth of imperialism in Europe is not fortuitous. In Europe, capital is beginning to feel cramped, and it is reaching out towards foreign countries in search of new markets, cheap labour and new fields of investment. But this leads to external complications and to war. No one can assert that the Balkan War [37] is the end and not the beginning of the complications. It is quite possible, therefore, that a combination of internal and external conditions may arise in which one or another nationality in Russia may find it necessary to raise and settle the question of its independence. And, of course, it is not for Marxists to create obstacles in such cases.

But it follows that Russian Marxists cannot dispense with the right of nations to self-determination.

Thus, the right of self-determination is an essential element in the solution of the national question.

Further. What must be our attitude towards nations which for one reason or another will prefer to remain within the framework of the whole?

We have seen that cultural-national autonomy is unsuitable. Firstly, it is artificial and impracticable, for it proposes artificially to draw into a single nation people whom the march of events, real events, is disuniting and dispersing to every corner of the country. Secondly, it stimulates nationalism, because it leads to the viewpoint in favour of the “demarcation” of people according to national curiae, the “organization” of nations, the “preservation” and cultivation of “national peculiarities” – all of which are entirely incompatible with Social-Democracy. It is not fortuitous that the Moravian separatists in the Reichsrat, having severed themselves from the German Social-Democratic deputies, have united with the Moravian bourgeois deputies to form a single, so to speak, Moravian “kolo.” Nor is it fortuitous that the separatists of the Bund have got themselves involved in nationalism by acclaiming the “Sabbath” and “Yiddish.” There are no Bundist deputies yet in the Duma, but in the Bund area there is a clerical-reactionary Jewish community, in the “controlling institutions” of which the Bund is arranging, for a beginning, a “get-together” of the Jewish workers and bourgeois. Such is the logic of cultural-national autonomy. [Here he is actually pointing out the goyish hypocrisy of the Austrian Bundists in breaking ties with German Social Democrats yet making an exception for Jewish “nationality”. Kuba’s solution (the same as Marx’s btw): Dissolve all constitutional “nationality”.]

Thus, national autonomy does not solve the problem.

What, then, is the way out?

The only correct solution is regional autonomy, autonomy for such crystallized units as Poland, Lithuania, the Ukraine, the Caucasus, etc. [Note that he is not saying national peculiarities must be obliterated, only that they cannot be enshrined constitutionally as it defies Marxist principle. He fully recognizes the right of the races to exist, being a foreigner himself, but not to rule themselves apart from the Soviet.]

The advantage of regional autonomy consists, first of all, in the fact that it does not deal with a fiction bereft of territory, but with a definite population inhabiting a definite territory. Next, it does not divide people according to nations, it does not strengthen national barriers; on the contrary, it breaks down these barriers and unites the population in such a manner as to open the way for division of a different kind, division according to classes. Finally; it makes it possible to utilize the natural wealth of the region and to develop its productive forces in the best possible way without awaiting the decisions of a common centre – functions which are not inherent features of cultural-national autonomy.

Thus, regional autonomy is an essential element in the solution of the national question.

Of course, not one of the regions constitutes a compact, homogeneous nation, for each is interspersed with national minorities. Such are the Jews in Poland, the Letts in Lithuania, the Russians in the Caucasus, the Poles in the Ukraine, and so on. [This is an important point — the ethnic picture was already confused at the borders, political borders being secondary to ethnic boundaries. In other words Stalin did not create multiracial habitats in the Russian empire.] It may be feared, therefore, that the minorities will be oppressed by the national majorities. But there will be grounds for fear only if the old order continues to prevail in the country. Give the country complete democracy and all grounds for fear will vanish.

Of course, not one of the regions constitutes a compact, homogeneous nation, for each is interspersed with national minorities. Such are the Jews in Poland, the Letts in Lithuania, the Russians in the Caucasus, the Poles in the Ukraine, and so on. It may be feared, therefore, that the minorities will be oppressed by the national majorities. But there will be grounds for fear only if the old order continues to prevail in the country. Give the country complete democracy and all grounds for fear will vanish.

It is proposed to bind the dispersed minorities into a single national union. But what the minorities want is not an artificial union, but real rights in the localities they inhabit. What can such a union give them without complete democratization? On the other hand, what need is there for a national union when there is complete democratization?

What is it that particularly agitates a national minority?

A minority is discontented not because there is no national union but because it does not enjoy the right to use its native language. Permit it to use its native language and the discontent will pass of itself.

A minority is discontented not because there is no artificial union but because it does not possess its own schools. Give it its own schools and all grounds for discontent will disappear.

A minority is discontented not because there is no national union, but because it does not enjoy liberty of conscience (religious liberty), liberty of movement, etc. Give it these liberties and it will cease to be discontented.

Thus, equal rights of nations in all forms (language, schools, etc.) is an essential element in the solution of the national question. Consequently, a state law based on complete democratization of the country is required, prohibiting all national privileges without exception and every kind of disability or restriction on the rights of national minorities. [Nor, it goes without saying, restriction of the rights of national majorities. So what he has done is to argue against awarding privileges to minorities — holding Jews up as the perfect example of a privileged nationality.]

That, and that alone, is the real, not a paper guarantee of the rights of a minority.

[...]

To unite locally the workers of all nationalities of Russia into single, integral collective bodies, to unite these collective bodies into a single party – such is the task.


“Multiculturalism” this isn’t. In fact, it’s much nearer the Silverian program of making multiracial states work, if anything. I don’t see no deification of the negro, no high talk of “diversity” and “enrichment” from the safety of a gated suburb, no Love Parade nor Notting Hill Carnival — absolutely no anti-white moral theatrics, in short. Do you see that? All I see is a conqueror coming up with a way to make every subrace in his empire satisfied with his rule. Perhaps if a certain Bohemian corporal had been more willing to appease his eastern subjects in this manner, and not “liquidate” them for “carrying the Bolshevik virus”, the Reich would not have been such a crashing failure. I mean, a man must be a real asshole and political bungler to make Joseph Stalin look like Denis Diderot.

It must also be said and emphasized that the “Russian” minorities are not the European and American minorities. If you have a look at the Red Book of The Peoples of The Russian Empire you will find a collection of true minority Turkic, Finno-Ugric, Caucasian and Aryan peoples, very much as they are today, who were not under existential threat by race-replacement, for they were not reaching into Russia, but Russia reaching out to them. So their “minority question” was not at all ours. Theirs was an administrative matter of true empire; ours, and Europe’s, is a matter of reverse colonization and demographic implosion.

I am not being an apologist for Stalin, mind. The forced starvation of the Ukrainian yeomen was a horrible fate, as were later tragedies to befall the nations. Only letting you know that Sovietism does not equal multiculturalism.

The commies also were mostly brutally anti-family (Romania was an exception).

You’re just making that up, I’m sorry to say. Please bring to this the famed clarity of expression you enjoin from others. “Commies” is no more valid than “fascists” if we were two leftists.

The Pioneers were HQed in Budapest and had branches all over the Union. If you look at East German propaganda, you see every effort to promulgate the value of children and family unity — obviously vital to a workers’ paradise.

Birthrates declined in the Warsaw Pact every bit as severely as in Western Europe


Which ought to tell you that birth rate declines due to urbanization and late marriage, not Communism per se. The Caucasian and Central Asian republics enjoyed above-replacement rates due to early (inter-familial) marriage and “lack of infrastructure”, which is why Moscow is seeing so many of them these days. As I’ve said before, the real culprits in demographic decline are cities and Christian morality. Why do you think the Afghans are the only people on Earth to match the central African states in birth rate?

 

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Posted by ex-uh on November 27, 2011, 10:25 AM | #

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You are purveying a myth.

Probably, but it’s a shade or two more accurate than the one you purvey — the standard “Red Scare” demonization that completely ignores positive aspects of Communist governance because it’s the sworn enemy of your kapitalist bread-n-butter. Hey, I’m not your enemy. I don’t believe in abolishing (all) private property. Just letting you know there was some good in the affair.

That had everything to do with race liberalism, nothing whatsoever to do with capitalism.

To my ears, that amounts to saying capitalism has nothing whatsoever to do with Jews. Advanced capitalism is the preserve of advanced liberal Christians, who allow Jews to do business among their kind with totally predictable results. After all, it isn’t as though no one knew what would happen. Jefferson had an inkling, to name just one. Schopenhauer understood the Jews. So did Ragnar Redbeard, and the elusive Timayenis.

The foremost capitalist nation of history, nay, the capitalist nation, the one to christen it in law, to allow its organs (corporations) to act unchecked in the swindling of the people, had a Jewish Prime Minister in the 19th century — and capitalism has “nothing whatsoever to do” with race liberalism?

Our system does not of necessity jeopardize the race.

Irrelevant. It has jeopardized and fatally compromised our race. Whatever can be separated theoretically remains in theory. What counts is what happened. Kuba starved out the kulaks, but he also kicked out the yids. Trade off.

The Old America was white, Christian, and capitalist - the greatest system in the history of the world.

All I’m saying is that your greatest system in the history of the world gave rise to race-liberalism and piss porn. Not “the commies”.

There was not a shred of ‘historical necessity’ about this, various ‘ontologists’ lurking about here notwithstanding.

History is entirely necessary ... because it is has happened. I know that’s a silly tautology but it happens also to be true. “Necessary” in that context is actually a stand-in for “inevitable”. History, if nothing else, is absolutely inevitable.

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Posted by Chip Farley on November 27, 2011, 10:28 AM | #

Let us get this thread back on topic:

Here is a pict. where Constantin shows his fancy girlish rings to Dr. David Duke!

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/m511/chipfarley/Miscellaneous nine/21626980_P6280045k.jpg

One wonders what Constantin would make of the news of the unfortunate arrest of Dr. David Duke.  Would he applaud it as Constantin is apparently a deranged philo-semite?  Or would he, as a nominal Russian Nationalist, use this opportunity to condemn the harshness of Germania?

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Posted by Chip Farley on November 27, 2011, 10:31 AM | #

Here it iz!

Dr. David Duke with Constantine von Hoffmeister

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Posted by ex-uh on November 27, 2011, 10:54 AM | #

So I take it you think very little of Otto Weiningers theories.  Well that says alot.

Not really. He was a deep shtetler. But we don’t need Weininger’s vague mythos when we have Roissy and biomechanics. Perhaps you ought to bring yourself up to date. It might have a maturing effect upon your silly rhetoric. Sorry to be blunt about it.

Actually a suspected Jewess has flirted with me before, she is a cashier at the local record store.  As far as seeing Jewesses in real life, I have seen plenty, I used to live in San Francisco which is a hot-bed of semitism.

Cool, so you know Winona Ryder and Phoebe Cates are atypical Hollyweird front girls. Now let’s act like we have some blood in our veins and make a gentleman’s wager of who will succeed in seducing our seductive Jewess cashiers. What do you say? I’m totally serious. It won’t hurt your uranianism, though it will up your mojo.

But I suspect a “suspected Jewess” is another marginal type. You need to find yourself a real Ashke-shnoz broad. You should see mine! I can’t shake those big black eyes from my head. There’s nothing for it ... I shall have to exorcise this DEMON, this SERPENT JEW SUCCUBUS ... by speaking to her ...

As MajikFireHornet has noted elsewhere, Jewesses occasionally surprise one with their readiness to agree to our Nazi ideations; it gives them that southerly frisson, that sense of danger, so necessary to capture a modern female’s interest. My last tumble was with a Jewess up in St. Pete who “really liked” the swasti tattoo on my arm ... and this was a Jew de bona sanguine ... nose, tits and bunda ... straight from Long Island.

So you do not believe that White People should have the freedom to travel?  Should Whites have to carry documents at all times and present them at guard-posts every few intervals like in the old Soviet Union or German Democratic Republic?

No. But I also believe white people should heed the wind’s direction by not pissing against it.

The only thing Dr. David Duke is guilty of is attempting to use his Universal Declaration of Human Rights Article 19 Rights:

Oh, my boy, my dear lad ... I too once made the mistake of appealing to “universal human rights”, and was soundly smacked for it in a little debate — by a Jew, who thereby disproved the rigor of my ideology. Am grateful to that Jew. He reminded me that we have all internalized the hoary fictions of ueber-democracy to some extent and appeal to them when desperate for higher legitimacy ...

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Posted by ex-uh on November 27, 2011, 11:07 AM | #

“this little heuristic bias” -sure you’re using that phrase correctly (“mistaking exceptions as representative”)?

Right, right. Had another tab open that confused me. Informal fallacy was meant. I suppose it would be appropriate to speak of a selection bias in preferring “white”-looking Jewish females. Mine tends to the Semitic end of the spectrum, which is after all the core of their race.

 

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Posted by ex-uh on November 27, 2011, 11:28 AM | #

BY THE WAY,

if anyone is interested, the nearly four years old and incredibly sloppy discussion of alleged Soviet origins of political correctness at the revived (yay!) Kirksville Today.

God, what absolutely atrocious writing. I ought to be liquidated for that.

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Posted by Alaric on November 27, 2011, 11:43 AM | #

Lurker:

Ive never met any bloke who found Amy Crackhouse remotely attractive. Most guys reaction is “Ugh!”

And hence we know just what kind of a degenerate any such person who finds that yenta attractive, really is.

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Posted by Liberal Heresy on November 27, 2011, 03:14 PM | #

Jewish women can be striking, even occasionally beautiful but the recognition of their Jewishness is more likely to repel than attract.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukcINebz6bM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=KAiK19csw2Q

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Posted by ex-uh on November 27, 2011, 06:04 PM | #

More unjewish Jewish girls, Liberal Heresy. I guess WNs are regular dudes in their preference for bikini model types. Whatever, this topic is stale.

For the record, here is a far more typical specimen of the race in discussion: http://i42.tinypic.com/2vtqdlf.jpg

That’s the sort of creature I see around here. I could walk outside right now, turn a corner, and find one sitting at a water fountain sipping a cappuccino or walking her six children. I hate being in funnyland where WNs think they know better than what is plainly observable on the street.

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Posted by Leon Haller on November 28, 2011, 07:28 AM | #

exuh,

There is too much for me to respond to. Too boring (no offense), too he said this/he said that. Just a few tidbits.

It is probably true that Mongolians or Kalmyks were employed as police or whatever, and they were predictably brutal about it. But honestly, Leon, if you don’t know that Russians themselves are brutal enough to each other, you don’t know the first thing about the Russian character. (exuh)


Irrelevant. My point was not about brutality, but the bringing of nonwhites into white areas under communism.

They encouraged interethnic/racial marriages within USSR (not that all that many occurred)(Haller)

Let our discourse not be so slippery — you brought up Bolsheviks, but I shifted perspective to Communism, which here you follow by referring to the USSR. Bolshevism and Stalinism / USSR are not identical, it should go without saying. exuh

Bite me. A commie is a Stalinist is pig food in my book. The point does not interest me.

There was simply no deification of the racial other nor state-enforced integration of races

Yes to the first part (though commie propaganda routinely castigated white racism of all varieties as “fascism” and “Nazism” and endemic to capitalism - if you don’t know that, you need to read much more on this topic) ,but No to the second. The Soviets were very big on ethnic integration (I knew that from reading, and my Russian ex-girlfriend confirmed all that for me: she was my age, and thus grew up under communism).

The American Commie Party openly saw in the American Negro a possibly revolutionary proletariat (I forget who wrote “Communism and the Negro” - some Jew named Schactman?). American communists were intimately involved in the whole Rosa Parks refusing to give up her seat on the bus scandal. I hope you know your American history (communism in USA = Jewish movement).

certain Bohemian corporal

Hitler was not Bohemian. The put-down phrase is “Bohemian Corporal” (pedantic, yes).

It must also be said and emphasized that the “Russian” minorities are not the European and American minorities.

Who said they were? Many were, however, nonwhite (Muslim nonwhites and Mongolians).

T

The commies also were mostly brutally anti-family (Romania was an exception).(Haller)

You’re just making that up, I’m sorry to say.

Sorry, but I don’t do that. Why don’t you read about forced abortions (and of course the communist countries were pioneers in guaranteeing abortion rights)? The Nazis and fascists were very pro-family, both in terms of encouraging fecundity, as well as in terms of protecting the traditional family. The communists hated the family (Solzhenitsyn talks about that somewhere), promoted (at least in theory, but also in practice to some extent) “women’s equality”, above all poisoned family relations (kids encouraged to rat out parents) in order to further ‘atomize’ the population.

I hate making yet another enemy here, but I don;t think you’ve actually read much about the history of communism, USSR, etc. (though I commend you for having slogged through Das Kapital - something I see absolutely no need ever to do myself). Would you like some book recs (I gave you some on economics, not sure if you ever saw them, though)? Start with the tiny Pipes, Communism: A History (very slim and good read), and work out from there.

the real culprits in demographic decline are cities and Christian morality.

Total nonsense. The culprits are feminism and the decline of Christianity (and, of course, modern contraception).

 

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Posted by Chip Farley on November 28, 2011, 12:14 PM | #

But we don’t need Weininger’s vague mythos when we have Roissy and biomechanics. Perhaps you ought to bring yourself up to date. It might have a maturing effect upon your silly rhetoric. Sorry to be blunt about it.

Up to date?  Then why didn’t you call Roissy by his new user-name ‘Heartiste’?  Although Roissy/Heratiste has a novel interpretation of Evolutionary Psychology, his overall views are too degenerate and even too Spenglerian to be of any use in constructing the future Jew-free White-Ethnostate.  Whereas Weiningers ideas already have an academic pedigree and have been used successfully before in the past… by German National Socialists!  ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Weininger#Weininger_and_the_Nazis )

Now let’s act like we have some blood in our veins and make a gentleman’s wager of who will succeed in seducing our seductive Jewess cashiers. What do you say?

No thanks.  I am currently celibate.  This cashier chick was the one who was flirting with me, while I was trying to pick up some Morrissey CDs. 

Oh, my boy, my dear lad ... I too once made the mistake of appealing to “universal human rights”, and was soundly smacked for it in a little debate — by a Jew, who thereby disproved the rigor of my ideology. Am grateful to that Jew. He reminded me that we have all internalized the hoary fictions of ueber-democracy to some extent and appeal to them when desperate for higher legitimacy ...

Sigh.  It is called pointing out hypocrisy. 

In fact democracy can even have its uses.  German National Socialist, anti-Zionist Hamas-ites and Syrian Social Nationalists have all won democratic elections in the last 100 years time.  Use democracy against itself. 

 

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Posted by ex-uh on November 28, 2011, 03:52 PM | #

his overall views are too degenerate and even too Spenglerian to be of any use in constructing the future Jew-free White-Ethnostate.

Where women will be pinch-mouthed Puritan virgin-goddesses?

I am currently celibate.  This cashier chick was the one who was flirting with me, while I was trying to pick up some Morrissey CDs.

LOL.

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Posted by ex-uh on November 28, 2011, 04:12 PM | #

Dang. Really touched a nerve with Haller.

but the bringing of nonwhites into white areas under communism.

Let’s see the numbers, hoss. And while you’re at it, can you demonstrate that this importation of Mongolians has had some nasty long-term effect upon the Russian people as a whole?

and of course the communist countries were pioneers in guaranteeing abortion rights

The USSR quickly banned abortion for nearly twenty years (‘36 - ‘55) when they saw the birthrate plummet. Aside from the general prevalence of legalized abortion throughout Europe (i.e. white concern for “human rights, not a unique failing or “plot” of the Soviets), there is another possible explanation for the allowance of abortion by the post-‘55 Politbyuro. I’ve read and heard of it only by anecdote, so I don’t claim it as fact, but it’s come up enough that I feel it ought to be mentioned: that is that incest was (or is) commoner in the Russian realm than among West Europeans. This would make sense as Russia was longer a quite rural society where social controls were not, shall we say, at their highest calibration. And as Orthodox canon law plainly forbids such ... union, measures had to be taken.

But again, that is anecdotal.

The culprits are feminism and the decline of Christianity (and, of course, modern contraception).

Both are consequences of urbanism.

Bite me. A commie is a Stalinist is pig food in my book. The point does not interest me.

“C’est les enfants de la terre contre les armees du veau d’or.”

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