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Is it time to be open about Whites versus Jews?I have scanned excerpts from three books written by Jews about Jews—available here in a Word document format: http://www.Neoeugenics.net/jiap.doc . It seems that Whites need not even make any defamatory assertions about Jews—they do to each other quite regularly if only we connect the dots that are obvious to most of us. These books clearly show that Jews do dominate, are successful, and highly intelligent. Making the comparison between Jews/Whites versus Whites/Blacks makes the whole racism debate less tenable—races do exist and they are different in substantial ways. In addition there is a discussion between one of the authors and Kevin MacDonald—very interesting. To find it just do a search on “MacDonald.” I was very surprised at his bluntness—he obviously feels that an effective strategy is to just state the facts and let the masses eventually take charge of their own genetic interests. Posted by Matt Nuenke on Thursday, September 10, 2009 at 02:29 PM in Comments:2
Posted by Mark IJsseldijk on September 10, 2009, 06:23 PM | #
Thank you. “2-3 per cent.” Give me a fucking break, I live in America. Jews are at least 10% of the population. And no, I’m not interested in BS to the contrary. Saying Jews are 2-3% of the population just gives too much credit to their cunning. No, their numbers are far greater than they claim. And those of you who’ll ask for statistics, I ask you: Where do those “official” stats come from? So the “US gov’t” is incapable of or above fudging stats now? 3
Posted by Mark IJsseldijk on September 10, 2009, 06:46 PM | #
Jesus-motherfucking-Christ. I thought GW banned this creep? 4
Posted by Anon on September 10, 2009, 07:10 PM | # The question about Semitic population share in the USA is an interesting one. In most other countries, they agitate to be part of the census cycle—Canada, the UK, France, and some other European countries collect Jewish census information with no screaming. But in the USA, there has been a mighty and untypical resistance to reporting numbers of American Jews. It is well known amongst older immigration officer circles that millions migrated from Europe between 1920 and 1940 to Canada where immigration laws were significantly less rigorous, and then illegally piled into the USA by crossing the Canadian border. For some reason, they especially liked entering the USA at Niagara Falls. Reliable estimates from people active in that era suggest that as many as 1,000,000 to 3,000,000 European Jews migrated that way. (That’s how a lot of the alleged six-million disappeared from Europe.) This goes a long way toward understanding their support for unrestricted immigration here (aside from more transparent reasons) and why they don’t want to be counted in the census here. Reasonable people estimate that there are no fewer than 15,000,000 to 25,000,000 people living in the USA who self-identify as Jews. However, they are still a significant minority and the expression of their strength is to be found in their organizations, not their numbers. When the diverse white peoples of America, Canada, Europe, Australia, etc., get organized (even in countless local orgs) then nothing will stand against us. Remember, it’s not numbers that give power, it’s organizations. And only nepotism accounts for domination in the dominant media culture and the corporate entertainment culture. 5
Posted by Guessedworker on September 10, 2009, 07:52 PM | # Mark, I did IP-ban the little fellow. He’s a nut and won’t go away. I’ll erase all his attention-getters as they hit the threads, but I can’t stop him from being a nuisance altogether. Wish I could. 6
Posted by Mark IJsseldijk on September 11, 2009, 03:15 AM | #
Don’t apologize. This castrated worm obviously has an ax to grind with us Nords for whichever reason and it’s hardly within your or anyone’s power to reliably prevent his bad behavior. On the other hand, I make no secret of the fact that I desire severe punishment for the Jews. People are right to fear us, as when we seize power it will not be all sweetness and light. It will be death for those who sought to destroy our people. 7
Posted by Guessedworker on September 11, 2009, 06:20 AM | # Matt’s Jew on Jews document is a little gelt mine. This was good:
And this:
This on abortion:
... and so on. 8
Posted by jamesUK on September 11, 2009, 08:10 PM | # Jews are smarter than the average population there representation in science, media and other fields like there domination of chess clearly show this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_Jews In regards to immigration you also have to consider the massive wave of immigration from the Soviet Union in the late 60’s and specifically the 70’s and 80’s when the Jackson/Vanik amendment and just after the fall of the Communism. 9
Posted by Friedrich Braun on September 11, 2009, 11:31 PM | # Podhoretz makes some valid points. Since liberal Jews want to undermine modern American values and institutions (mainly individualism and capitalism) that have made Jews rich and powerful, they are working against their own ethnic genetic interests. So far so good, but it doesn’t explain why the overwhelming majority of liberal Jews bite the hand that feeds them. One readily sees why Jews bailed the Soviet Union when that vehicle of Jewish supremacism became worthless. One, however, doesn’t fully understand why Jews are sawing off the branch on which they’re sitting. Maybe wintermute or another expert on this fascinating people will educate us.
One of the most extraordinary features of Barack Obama’s victory over John McCain was his capture of 78% of the Jewish vote. To be sure, there was nothing extraordinary about the number itself. Since 1928, the average Jewish vote for the Democrat in presidential elections has been an amazing 75%—far higher than that of any other ethno-religious group. Yet there were reasons to think that it would be different in 2008. The main one was Israel. Despite some slippage in concern for Israel among American Jews, most of them were still telling pollsters that their votes would be strongly influenced by the positions of the two candidates on the Jewish state. This being the case, Mr. McCain’s long history of sympathy with Israel should have given him a distinct advantage over Mr. Obama, whose own history consisted of associating with outright enemies of the Jewish state like the Rev. Jeremiah Wright and the historian Rashid Khalidi. Nevertheless, Mr. Obama beat Mr. McCain among Jewish voters by a staggering 57 points. Except for African Americans, who gave him 95% of their vote, Mr. Obama did far better with Jews than with any other ethnic or religious group. Thus the Jewish vote for him was 25 points higher than the 53% he scored with the electorate as a whole; 35 points higher than the 43% he scored with whites; 11 points higher than the 67% he scored with Hispanics; 33 points higher than the 45% he scored with Protestants; and 24 points higher than the 54% he scored with Catholics. These numbers remind us of the extent to which the continued Jewish commitment to the Democratic Party has become an anomaly. All the other ethno-religious groups that, like the Jews, formed part of the coalition forged by Franklin Delano Roosevelt in the 1930s have followed the rule that increasing prosperity generally leads to an increasing identification with the Republican Party. But not the Jews. As the late Jewish scholar Milton Himmelfarb said in the 1950s: “Jews earn like Episcopalians”—then the most prosperous minority group in America—“and vote like Puerto Ricans,” who were then the poorest. Jews also remain far more heavily committed to the liberal agenda than any of their old ethno-religious New Deal partners. As the eminent sociologist Nathan Glazer has put it, “whatever the promptings of their economic interests,” Jews have consistently supported “increased government spending, expanded benefits to the poor and lower classes, greater regulations on business, and the power of organized labor.” As with these old political and economic questions, so with the newer issues being fought out in the culture wars today. On abortion, gay rights, school prayer, gun control and assisted suicide, the survey data show that Jews are by far the most liberal of any group in America. Most American Jews sincerely believe that their liberalism, together with their commitment to the Democratic Party as its main political vehicle, stems from the teachings of Judaism and reflects the heritage of “Jewish values.” But if this theory were valid, the Orthodox would be the most liberal sector of the Jewish community. After all, it is they who are most familiar with the Jewish religious tradition and who shape their lives around its commandments. Yet the Orthodox enclaves are the only Jewish neighborhoods where Republican candidates get any votes to speak of. Even more telling is that on every single cultural issue, the Orthodox oppose the politically correct liberal positions taken by most other American Jews precisely because these positions conflict with Jewish law. To cite just a few examples: Jewish law permits abortion only to protect the life of the mother; it forbids sex between men; and it prohibits suicide (except when the only alternatives are forced conversion or incest). The upshot is that in virtually every instance of a clash between Jewish law and contemporary liberalism, it is the liberal creed that prevails for most American Jews. Which is to say that for them, liberalism has become more than a political outlook. It has for all practical purposes superseded Judaism and become a religion in its own right. And to the dogmas and commandments of this religion they give the kind of steadfast devotion their forefathers gave to the religion of the Hebrew Bible. For many, moving to the right is invested with much the same horror their forefathers felt about conversion to Christianity. All this applies most fully to Jews who are Jewish only in an ethnic sense. Indeed, many such secular Jews, when asked how they would define “a good Jew,” reply that it is equivalent to being a good liberal. But avowed secularists are not the only Jews who confuse Judaism with liberalism; so do many non-Orthodox Jews who practice this or that traditional observance. It is not for nothing that a cruel wag has described the Reform movement—the largest of the religious denominations within the American Jewish community—as “the Democratic Party with holidays thrown in,” and the services in a Reform temple as “the Democratic Party at prayer.” As a Jew who moved from left to right more than four decades ago, I have been hoping for many years that my fellow Jews would come to see that in contrast to what was the case in the past, our true friends are now located not among liberals, but among conservatives. Of course in speaking of the difference between left and right, or between liberals and conservatives, I have in mind a divide wider than the conflict between Democrats and Republicans and deeper than electoral politics. The great issue between the two political communities is how they feel about the nature of American society. With all exceptions duly noted, I think it fair to say that what liberals mainly see when they look at this country is injustice and oppression of every kind—economic, social and political. By sharp contrast, conservatives see a nation shaped by a complex of traditions, principles and institutions that has afforded more freedom and, even factoring in periodic economic downturns, more prosperity to more of its citizens than in any society in human history. It follows that what liberals believe needs to be changed or discarded—and apologized for to other nations—is precisely what conservatives are dedicated to preserving, reinvigorating and proudly defending against attack. In this realm, too, American Jewry surely belongs with the conservatives rather than the liberals. For the social, political and moral system that liberals wish to transform is the very system in and through which Jews found a home such as they had never discovered in all their forced wanderings throughout the centuries over the face of the earth. The Jewish immigrants who began coming here from Eastern Europe in the 1880s were right to call America “the golden land.” They soon learned that there was no gold in the streets, as some of them may have imagined, which meant that they had to struggle, and struggle hard. But there was another, more precious kind of gold in America. There was freedom and there was opportunity. Blessed with these conditions, we children and grandchildren and great-grandchildren of these immigrants flourished—and not just in material terms—to an extent unmatched in the history of our people. What I am saying is that if anything bears eloquent testimony to the infinitely precious virtues of the traditional American system, it is the Jewish experience in this country. Surely, then, we Jews ought to be joining with its defenders against those who are blind or indifferent or antagonistic to the philosophical principles, the moral values, and the socioeconomic institutions on whose health and vitality the traditional American system depends. In 2008, we were faced with a candidate who ran to an unprecedented degree on the premise that the American system was seriously flawed and in desperate need of radical change—not to mention a record powerfully indicating that he would pursue policies dangerous to the security of Israel. Because of all this, I hoped that my fellow Jews would finally break free of the liberalism to which they have remained in thrall long past the point where it has served either their interests or their ideals. That possibility having been resoundingly dashed, I now grasp for some encouragement from the signs that buyer’s remorse is beginning to set in among Jews, as it also seems to be doing among independents. Which is why I am hoping against hope that the exposure of Mr. Obama as a false messiah will at last open the eyes of my fellow Jews to the correlative falsity of the political creed he so perfectly personifies and to which they have for so long been so misguidedly loyal. Mr. Podhoretz was the editor of Commentary from 1960 to 1995. His latest book, “Why Are Jews Liberals?” is just out from Doubleday. Copyright 2009 Dow Jones & Company, Inc. All Rights Reserved 10
Posted by Rabbi on September 12, 2009, 12:12 AM | # They are cunning, very effective and have an instinctual collective racial bond; something which the European glaringly lacks. The NS had the most effective policy against them; remove them from their own society, remove them from influencing their society. They posses the knack to be capable of entering into the bossom of any nation and capture the vital forces of that nation. Once ensconced inside the chambers of power and influence the lifeline of that nation is surrendered to them. There is a talent and there is a fromula for their ( not successs, I would not call it success because they simply have no opposition against whom to succeed) unrstrained control and dominance of any patch they decide to farm. Find the formula if you want to oppose them. Find the formula if you want to neutralize them. 11
Posted by danielj on September 12, 2009, 06:14 AM | # Podhoretz makes some valid points. Since liberal Jews want to undermine modern American values and institutions (mainly individualism and capitalism) that have made Jews rich and powerful, they are working against their own ethnic genetic interests. So far so good, but it doesn’t explain why the overwhelming majority of liberal Jews bite the hand that feeds them. One readily sees why Jews bailed the Soviet Union when that vehicle of Jewish supremacism became worthless. One, however, doesn’t fully understand why Jews are sawing off the branch on which they’re sitting. Maybe wintermute or another expert on this fascinating people will educate us. Destruction is fun. They enjoy demolishing things and working their way out of the rubble. 12
Posted by h.kalervo on September 12, 2009, 09:06 AM | # Regarding Jewish intelligence… The following highly amusing discussion comes from the VNN website. I edited it a little bit to keep the essential and remove the rest. I also had to cut it into two parts. Shitforbrains: Jew
This explains why the jew will always dominate, they have the highest IQ. The average IQ in Israel is 124. Good luck with the world domination thing that your team is trying to promote. But then maybe this BLOG sight is just written by a bunch of bored Rabbi’s? Regards, Shitforbrains # Tim Says: Shitforbrains - check your sources. The wailing wall headbangers have a national IQ of only 94 according to Lynn.
It’s funny what jews think their IQs are as opposed to what they actually are. Israelis are apparently some of the stupidest people on earth in a supposedly “modern industrial” society. All jews claim to be Jeenouses, alas the reality is they just tend to have a sharper curve with a peak around 112. Like women almost identically - except Jews have more idiots and even fewer super geniuses. The problem is not any individual yoo - as individuals they don’t amount to dog shit. The problem is an entire population with an IQ around 112 - just smart enough to get themselves into a lot of trouble they are not correspondingly smart enough to get out of. 200 previous pogroms can’t be wrong. Joos are so mediocre they always confuse extraordinary cunning with intelligence. Alas, they are not the same thing at all. If joos had the sense god gives to geese they would not have spent the past 2000 years running around bilking one European city after another in between purges. Smart people can make a good living without turning to crime, as Prof. Lynn pointed out. Without crime and chicanery jews can’t even make a living, at all. 140 billion U.S. dollars later and Israel looks like any other nigger rigged banana republic you’ve ever seen except for the nuclear weapons. Yoos couldn’t manage a bowel movement much less a nation. Without whitey, as the rabbis have said only too often, we would not amount to much of anything.
# Shitforbrains Says: Read it and weep you poor white Tuttle boy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi
# Shitforbrains Says: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi: relatively common in Ashkenazi Jews, had an average IQ of 122. 80% of jews, woos, yoos, moos, and floos are Ashkenazi Jews Waaaaa!, I want my mommy!
# Harry Tuttle Says: Remember, Shitforbrains … we won’t miss you when you’re gone. Neither will anybody else. Gosh, with all those Jeeniouses (My own IQ nearly four full derivatives above the smartest joosim you know) it occurs to me they should have been able to turn Israel into an economic paradise instead of the world’s largest money laundering ectasy kiddie porn crime ring. Why, instead of featherless chickens, Israel should dominate all the major fields of science - for real, not just in the movies. As Prof. Lynn pointed out, smart people can figure out ways to make a living with a lot more money than criminals - so why do all jews joo? Jews can seem to think of every crooked way to wring money from their host nations imaginable except honestly. I also don’t understand why the sooper dooper yooish jeeniuses all live in the diaspora amongst the evil cancer race when they have had their own country for a half century. They’ve got more apologetics than niggers and less honor than dogs. As the rabbi said in Haaretz, a bit of the usual self-loathing leaking through … obviously, the diaspora is where the suckers are. Funny that, how these sooper jeeniuses only appear to be able to eke out a living by committing more crime than niggers and twice the vice. Do you really think the supreme being has poor enough taste to choose the Askenaz race as his special pets? Wow, that’s quite an insult to hurl at the creator, thinking his standards are no higher than that. If people really were a chosen people, wouldn’t they be the most creative people on Earth to reflect God’s nature themselves? Seems to me it would be so. When I say “creative,” I don’t mean tikkun olam piss christ aquariums. I mean, like every major field of science over the past 2000 years, despite the best efforts of yoo publicists and their clients, has been utterly dominated by caucasians. The truth hurts but not as bad as the rebbe chewing my foreskin.
Hey Fuddle Duddle, You are so correct in everything you say, including the rabbi chewing on your stump. Maybe you should get your hand off your dick and read a business mag, or medical rag and see the woos, floos and moos that litter there pages with their incessant business and medical drivel. Check into any major medical centre in NA and see how many dumb ass jews are listed. I know you are so smart and they are soooo dumb! These bastards even have their own hospitals (Mt. Sinai in every major city). The fucking nerve these jews have. Will it ever end? These dumb ass bastards are also in all the best medical schools, business schools and legal schools. But you already knew that, your just fuckin with me. Riiiiiiiiight. You Harvard grads are so witty! And that dumb ass bastard Swinestien, he was the dumbest of them all. Check your facts fuddle duddle and you will see that YOU are the smartest of them all. All hail fuddle duddle. We are not worthy. By they way if you can read, check out the list of pure lies of supposedly smart joow, floos and moos, who are Nobel laureates http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of…_Prize_winners And yet the jews make up what percentage of the global population? Remind me because last I checked it seems the woos have a monopoly on IQ points too. Those sneaky bastards are robbing the rest of us dumb ass humans of IQ points! Money, IQ points, will it ever stop! And the lists go on and on and on (business, medial, science, legal, banking, etc…). Oh yawn, I’m bored, next whit trash loser please! But you knew that Rabbi Fuddle Duddle
# Harry Tuttle Says: You see all those yoos waving their Nobel prizes? About 90% in theoretical physics. Guess what all their theories depend on? The existence of a particle called the Higgs-Boson, which has turned out to be non-existent. This means every yooish charlatan on Earth with a Nobel prize needs to return every single Nobel prize they have won over the past half century, because it was nothing but the usual gefilte fishing flim-flammery. Total contribution of jewish theoretical physics to human welfare and progress? Zip, nada, nothing. Everybody knows only gentiles do that stuff. Joos write books published by Doubleday about how the universe is only 14 billion years old and was once the size of a soccer ball. People almost bought that crap over real astrophysicists like Fred Hoyle until the Hubble Space Telescope began sending back one photo after another of galaxies at least 80 billion years old or more, where the precious jooish “Red Shift” appeared to be just another talmudic sophistry shell game. So much for Carl Sagan and his faggot CGI spaceship and his “billions and billions of stars” and his “Z molecules at the beginning of time.” If it sounds like Jew bullshit - guess what - it is! Yes, I know Jews dominate medicine. It’s obvious, because medicine has nearly come to a halt since the 1950’s. It’s the most decadent, stagnant and pointless corrupt cartel in the West. The jews are a health hazard to entire nations as doctors and they are the most notoriously incompetent people you could humanly imagine in that profession. Joos were telling us that fat causes obesity for five decades right up the moment Dr. Atkins and a lot of other gentile whiz kids figured out it was sugar and sleep deprivation creating insulin resistance. Thanks, Jews. We owe you one. Another fuggin’ joo breakthrough. Just get out of the way kike and stop blocking gentile progress. Jews were telling us that ulcers were caused by stress since the 1940’s but as always it took a practical hands-on goyim working alone in his practice with no funding to discover what was under the Yiddim’s very nose … a bacteria that eats the stomach lining. Joos were telling us that stress causes back disorders since the 1970’s until the usual goyim suspects found out that muscular weakness from sedentary lifestyles were the actual cause. Stress has nothing to do with it. Jooish “health authorities” claimed strength exercise was primarily a matter of repetitions and sets, until a gentile genius named Arthur Jones revolutionized jewish caveman training with the Nautilus Machine and high intensity theory. Jones hated joos so much he could not stand to be in the room with them, a lot like Walt Disney. As Alex put it, it would appear that at whatever point yoos make contact with gentiles, they wound us. The soil beneath their feet appears to steam with fungal vapours wherever they tread. The very air is fouled in front of them as if they warp quantum reality around them into some grotesque Clive Barker nightmare. There is no place a joo can dwell long before we hear the sound of weeping, despair, hunger, loss and horror. It seems there is almost no situation so bad that a joo cannot make it much, much worse. I notice you were shrieking about various credentials, testimonials and honorariums given by other joos to joos to validate joos who in turn provide credibility to other joos by vouching for their “Jeenius.” The American Lysenko named Steven J. Gould was probably the finest specimen of fake smart person ever invented. He never published a peer reviewed paper in his entire adult life and was only barely able to get his name on a paper by Lewontin, after which Gould claimed he revolutionized anthropology with his spontaneous equilibrium theory. Yet somehow Gould ended up in the bully pit for 25 years as the only scientist the press ever consulted with. I used to think you’d need to publish at least a dozen papers before you could even be considered for President of the American Anthropology Society, but since the society was only invented so Gould would have a credential they apparently gave him a waiver. Alex was right. Joos are a lot like assholes on legs who run around with a certificate from a doctor claiming it proves they don’t stink. People nod to be polite and then pinch their noses. Whatever you say, Jeenious. Sure. Personally, I have never met a joo I thought to be my intellectual equal, long before I ever became racially aware. I have met at least a dozen gentiles I could tell were as bright as I am or better. I’m always disappointed when the chance comes for a face-to-face throwdown debate … I used to expect the scholarly “people of the book” to hand me my ass in a basket. What with other joos constantly referring to their verbal prowess and all. It’s always a shock when the joo realizes we are now approaching the subject matter in a straight line, not obliquely - and the joo begins fuming and spitting like a nigger with an IQ of 84 defending ebonics. Then they shit their pants, scream and run off. Three thousand years they’ve said it - they are cowards face to face and prefer to stab from the back in the shadows. They cannot hold their own in a fair debate and will always go to pieces just thirty seconds in. They shake their fist and tell you they are going to find out where you work. People of scholarly nature, indeed. I think not, sir. I’m still waiting for that yoo who can present his case without blowing a vein in his forehead screaming. I’ve never seen one yet.
# Harry Tuttle Says: You’ll be pleased to know, Shitforbrains, that Jews have IQ profiles extraordinarily similar to faggots - inevitably smarter than average, invariably mediocre in the whole. .. but don’t take my word for it, listen instead to the first jewish Prime Minister of Britain, possibly the only really bright jew I have ever read. “The real curse of the jewish people is the burden of own intellectual mediocrity, which makes them unfit for manual labor and unfit for much else.”
Jeeeesuuuss!!! Tuttle almost a 1,000 word response! Some us work during the day, so please keep your responses to 300 words or less. Thanks for proving my point, you are the smartest man I have ever met. Wow you exhibit a rare intelligence to understand and refute almost every obscure branch or theoretical science and medicine. Your IQ must be well north of 200. I feel robbed, truly robbed. Damn my GPS on PDA does not understand E=mc(2). I hate my jew ass PDA! It is a rare man who can admit that he is that intelligent, most are gutless worms. You have a comprehensive knowledge base, from medicine, to, well just about anything. I am truly impressed. Tell me more about yourself! Are you a quad Phd! No, your too smart for that jew as title nonsense. Let me guess. Your Buckaroo Banzai! Whooah, got to get back to work before my jew boss kicks my ass. Signed, I am truly not worthy. Shitforbrains
# Harry Tuttle Says: The jews are our misfortune. 13
Posted by h.kalervo on September 12, 2009, 09:09 AM | # # Harry Tuttle Says: Shitforbrains : I was tested by a gentile psychologist at 9 years old who said I was 158 Stanford Binet. Clinical test environment with supervision of licensed professionals. At 18 the school jew psychologist gave me a series of verbal questions followed by asking me to draw some pictures of my family. He told my mother I was “precocious” and that the earlier score was an anomaly, informing my mother I was likely around 120-130 and a kind of savant idiot to boot. Seemed to go out of his way to want to make me feel as bad as possible about myself. Funny that. Of course, none of it registered on me at the time as deliberate. In the Army a gentile warrant officer tested me again with clinical supervision and scored me 158 Stanford-Binet (identical to first score) and followed up with Wechsler-Brenner series where I scored 183. He said the wide spread was a strange anomaly and he wasn’t sure the IQ test was really valid for anyone scoring over 140 Stanford Binet. He also said, irregardless of what anybody had told me before, I was neither an idiot nor precocious. He actually used a codeword with me and suggested that “Freudian” psychologists (code for Jewish) often seemed to display an enormous hostility towards bright children that was inexplicable but a common phenomenon. Nearly any bright gentile child who had been handled by a “freudian” influenced psychologist, he said, had experienced this treatment at some point. Strange that. Pretend to be a doctor and poison the medicine. It’s corny but it works for Yoohoodzim. # Shitforbrains Says: Nice sob story Tuttle. What am I supposed to do, feel sorry for you? So you are ‘Special’. Great, now what? What the hell have you done with your life? You hang around these dumb ass BLOG sites answering moronic responses from shitforbrains like me! Wow, I’m impressed. Kind of like Lance Armstrong fighting the the evil French by living in his parents basement and riding a tricycle. So you decided not to pursue a higher education and join the army. Hmm, makes me wonder about that term ‘Military Intelligence’?. Your name is smeared all over the VNN site, answering every BLOG’s and spouting your point of view on anything and everything. You appear to be paralyzed by your own paranoia. You say a lot, but you do nothing. The mind is a terrible thing to waste. Get a life Tuttle. Get a job. Build something. Prove your worth.
# Harry Tuttle Says: Yawn. I make more money sitting here writing on this blog in an hour than you will make this week, knucklehead. I think I heard another royalty check in the mailbox just then. Jeez, I’m gonna have to stuff it into a pillowcase and put them up in the attic, I’m running out of room. Smart people can find other ways of making a living other than graft, crime and exploitation of human weaknesses. I guess next you’ll be telling us all that an honest living is another goy weakness. Beyond, you must go! Exceed the petty morality of the gentiles, we go beyond oy from what cunning they never seen! Our strength is in our marvelous hubris! I like to read those samizdats from Russia in the 50’s, they are hilarious screeds by the beanie babies. 14
Posted by Union Jock on September 12, 2009, 10:41 AM | # complained some days ago about the double standard which excised a commenter called ‘nonracist’ while allowing one ‘Mark IJselldijk’ to make intemperate and obscene rejoinders. In reply, I see, he has written to me there: “But wait, now you won’t stay and debate this with us? You won’t answer our legitimate dissent? Maybe you should practice those behaviors you preach.” All right, I will. Look at what he has written here. ‘Legitimate dissent’, indeed! Gresham’s Law applies in internet debate as in currency, you know. And look at Guessedworker joining in the party. All because the first comment makes a perfectly valid statistical objection, which had occurred independently to me. Despite my name, I am (mainly) English, a Christian gentleman who like many fellow patriots is deeply worried about immigration and other deleterious tendencies. How can i ask my friends to consider the often useful facts and arguiments presented here when it is a linguistic and moral pigsty as bad as any? When are you going to clean it up and recognise that one of the values we strive to protect is fair play? Or have you finally subsided into a closed circle of mutually reinforcing whiners, licking your wounds and spitting impotently at the rest of the world? The air of this site is thick with defeat. From his spelling I assume ‘Mark’ is a colonial and therefore one makes allowances, but you really should not allow such folk to vent like that, let alone encourage them and silence reasonable criticism, or you’re finished before you get started.
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Posted by Fred Scrooby on September 12, 2009, 10:52 AM | #
Please don’t. We’d rather MajorityRights not go to waste, and it’s wasted on you. Totally. 16
Posted by Captainchaos on September 12, 2009, 11:41 AM | #
Union Joke, is that you Monitor/gorboduc? Your own record of “fair play,” (e.g., presenting the views you actually hold in a forthright manner) as you sneakily attempt to deconstruct what you perceive to be racialism’s ungodly trappings is well noted.
What “reasonable criticism?” Race doesn’t exist? If it does exist, it is of no civilizational import? Even if it is of civilizational import, the higher “moral” good lies in mixing it out of existence? Peoples have no inherent interest in the physical continuity of their people above personal pursuits? What a crock of shit. If all the above doesn’t make Jebus Christer weep, then fuck him. 17
Posted by Frank on September 12, 2009, 01:50 PM | #
No way is he The Monitor… Y’all have him completely mispegged. 18
Posted by Frank on September 12, 2009, 02:27 PM | # CC, you’ll like this! (FOX News link… but Traficant “names the Jew” as he has numerous times in the past.) 19
Posted by Frank on September 12, 2009, 02:38 PM | # I remember watching his show trial back when he was sentenced - boy was that entertaining, haha. Traficant’s quite an eccentric. I didn’t think he was guilty of anything - it sounded to me like trumped up charges. But others tell me he was legitimately caught… Who knows. It is interesting how the moment he makes trouble, he’s sent to prison. I’m sure Linder hates him because Traficant doesn’t fit his retarded model. But, conservatives like Traficant and Buchanan who are willing to stand up to Jewish aggressions could make a real impact. And as right wing Jews won’t understand, this is not “anti-Semitism” - this is defending against Jewish attacks. This has nothing to do with hating Jews. Right wing Jews refuse to admit or decline to support correct the power imbalance that exists in this country. Those who want fairness, they seem to believe, must secretly want to start up the death camps… 20
Posted by Frank on September 12, 2009, 03:05 PM | # CC, here‘s an attempt to compete against Jewish Hollywood. 21
Posted by Captainchaos on September 12, 2009, 03:15 PM | # Damn, Traficant is a man. Dan Dare and Union Joke (whom I suspect is gorboduc, if not The Monitard), two English conservatives, could take some pointers. 22
Posted by Fred Scrooby on September 12, 2009, 03:16 PM | # Good video linked there by Frank, showing Greta van Susteren interviewing disgraced former Congressman James Trafficant. In it he says Israel receives from 15 to 20 billion dollars a year in handouts from D.C. I believe it. The official figure everyone hears about, of course, is “three to four billion a year” given to Israel “as a loan — it all gets paid back.” 23
Posted by Fred Scrooby on September 12, 2009, 03:18 PM | # (Needless to say, not one dime gets “paid back.” It’s not “a loan.” It’s free money pried out of the U.S.‘s hide by AIPAC and associates.) 24
Posted by Fred Scrooby on September 12, 2009, 03:23 PM | # Imagine what could be accomplished over ten years with those 20 billion a year, in terms of ending incompatible immigration, ejecting all illegals, getting a border fence up, expanding prosecutions of employers, and getting in place a program for paying those here legally in excessive numbers to leave. 25
Posted by Culnnall on September 12, 2009, 03:29 PM | #
Uncle Adolf illuminates why (without a proper host, the parasite dies)
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Posted by Frank on September 12, 2009, 03:34 PM | # Fred, far more was utterly wasted on the Iraq and Afghan wars. Trillions with a “t” at the beginning and an “s” at the end. I’ll seek out the official [under]estimates shortly if anyone’s interested. 27
Posted by Frank on September 12, 2009, 03:35 PM | # And those wars are largely being fought for Israel. 28
Posted by ex-linderite on September 12, 2009, 03:36 PM | # Union Joke, is that you Monitor/gorboduc? No way he’s gorboduc, whose sense of humor was far above UJ’s prolish jab at we “Yanks”. Besides, gorboduc was just eccentric, not an “anti”. Plus he wrote way better poetry than Constantine. 29
Posted by Frank on September 12, 2009, 10:52 PM | # Supposedly the cost is only at $915.1 billion dollars for the two wars, but that’s still an awesome amount of capital that could have been better allocated than dumping into the barren sands of the ME. The financial bailout was another awesome waste of capital… 30
Posted by Anonymous Coward on September 13, 2009, 03:03 PM | # (opinionated, hypothetical and assumption-driven post below) Through breeding and hard labor (weeding out the weak, etc) the current African American is stronger than the current African. African Americans have been bred stronger due to culling the weaker. Another theory is the weakest died on the trip or due to diseases. So, the most healthy with the best immune systems survived. Now, about those numbers of Jews who emigrated from Europe before, during, or after World War II. These are the ones who could afford it, or had the foresight to get out of Germany and other central European countries. Ignore this point if you believe that the number of Jews who died in labor camps or ‘death camps’ is grossly fabricated. The jews that ended up in these camps were poor and weak jews. The smarter and more able jews were able to leave Europe and settle in Israel, America, and other places in the world. So if you were to entertain the notion that 6 million jews were wiped out during World War II, consider they were the weakest and poorest. Where does that leave the current Jew compared to the Jew of last century? It seems that the practices highlighted above have done nothing but trim the fat and fortify the good genes. These practices have just made the average black or jew more able (compared to their historical counterparts). 31
Posted by Gorboduc on September 15, 2009, 09:51 PM | # Oh my, I didn’t expect to be remembered here…truth to tell, no way am I UJ. A snippet on the US theatre/TV scene is hilarious: taking a sample of 1600 then living singers, dancers, producers, actors et al., Weyl concludes Ignoring the effect of name-changing for the moment, the indicated performance coefficients of these stage “personalities” were: Jewish 244, Welsh 136,Irish 134, English 108 and Scandinavian 83…If the sample of 49 names is representative, we then reach the almost incredible conclusion that one out of every seven members of the American theatre and radio-television elite is a Jew who has changed his name to a non-Jewish one. This would raise the Jewish performance coefficient by about 450! (Italics, shriek-marks and implied fanfare of massed trumpets as in Weyl’s original) 32
Posted by Fred Scrooby on September 17, 2009, 12:40 PM | # Snouck touches on one of the two fundamental points of what’s going on, namely that race-replacement is neither happening by itself nor welcome, but is being forced on unconsulted, unwilling Euro-race peoples: http://www.islamineurope.net/2009/09/mayor-dutch-against-asylum-seekers.html . As I see it there is only one question, and it’s not a question of philosophy or of “liberalism.” That question is, Who is doing the forcing? If someone is trying to kill me, I don’t start waxing philosophical. Philosophy is irrelevant at that point. No, I find out who it is, then work to thwart his plan in whatever way I can. Whoever is forcing race-replacement on whites has to be targeted for vigorous verbal counterattack, explicitly and specifically by name. 1) If an infinitessimal fraction of the guilty group differ from the vast majority of their group, in that this infinitessimal fraction: 2) aren’t doing it, 3) oppose it, and sympathize with us, and are ready to join us more or less, but 4) won’t join us if we cite their group’s culpability and instead will run yelling and screaming from the room and join the other side while shouting “Nazi!” at us, 5) that’s regrettable but we must nevertheless cite their group’s culpability. We can manage without the “help” of this infinitessimal group (who are one-hundred-percent powerless, by the way) but we can’t manage without explicitly naming the guilty group they belong to: you can’t fight what you can’t see. If you’re out in the open while your enemy succeeds in keeping himself, his moves, and his aims completely hidden, you’re done for. You’re going to lose. In cop jargon, you’re going down. 33
Posted by Dasein on September 17, 2009, 03:58 PM | # On the topic of Holland, there was an interesting controversy during the summer with regards to the costs of Third World immigration for the Dutch. One of the members of Geert Wilders’ party, a Mr. Sietse Fritsma, bombarded government ministries with requests for details on the costs of immigration. He calculated that the costs in the past year have been 100 billion Euros. A more recent study by Elsevier, a magazine in which Pym Fortuyn wrote a weekly column, has since updated this figure to 200 billon, with a current cost of 13 billion per year. The government minister for integration first promised to provide a counter-study refuting the 100 billion figure, but then a week later refused, saying that they did not have records based on ethnic groups. Some of it is discussed at GoV: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2009/07/price-tag-on-dutch-multiculturalism.html If the BNP ever gets into Westminster, this is what they should also do, getting all the information required in order to put the lie to there being any economic bonus from immigration. I seem to remember that when they did this calculation before it worked out to the net benefit of about 50p per week (or year?). I’m sure that figure is massaged, and that if the BNP could get access to the proper ministry figures, they could provide a more realistic accounting of the economic damage (to say nothing of the damage to EGI, which should also be calculated). 34
Posted by Dasein on September 17, 2009, 04:00 PM | # Sorry, that should be cost in the past 40 years. 35
Posted by Dasein on September 17, 2009, 04:33 PM | # Here’s a video from a foundation sponsored by the Israeli government. The message is to keep Jews from race-mixing. Just something else to file away in the “World’s Greatest Hypocrites” folder. 36
Posted by Dan Dare on September 17, 2009, 04:37 PM | # Dasein: The economic argument for immigration has been well and truly holed beneath the waterline without requiring any intervention from the BNP. Reports from influential select committees in both the House of Commons and the House of Lords have reinforced this conclusion in the last 12 months.
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Posted by Dasein on September 17, 2009, 04:49 PM | # Thanks, Dan. I was just thinking that I should ask you about that. Is this something after that “Snicker’s Bar” report? If you had a link, I’d appreciate it. In Germany, I seem to recall that Herwig Birg (probably the leading demographer in the country) estimated the average costs as being 2000 euros per non-German citizen. I’ll have to look that up though to be sure. 38
Posted by Fred Scrooby on September 17, 2009, 05:19 PM | #
Then why is it still going on? Why is it immune to attack? Whyis it perfectly safe inside a defense fortress strong enough to guarantee not a hair on its head shall be so much as touched? Who constructed that fortress? Who’s inside it, directing the operation while perfectly shielded, safe and sound? Who’s outside it standing guard, making sure no one peers too closely into its slits?
But those new arguments are bullshit too and, to quote Daniel Hannan MEP in another context, “they know it, we know it, and they know we know it!” Who is concocting bullshit after bullshit after bullshit, and why are they doing it? They have precise identities. Let’s learn those. It’s about time. Don’t say “they” or “we.” Specific men who have names are doing it. Who are they, what are their names, what is their aim, what is their common denominator? We know Blair and Brown are doing it but they’re puppets. Who has it been pulling their puppet strings? 39
Posted by Dan Dare on September 17, 2009, 06:07 PM | # Dasein – I think this may be the instance you refer to. It concerns the House of Lords report mentioned earlier.
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Posted by Dan Dare on September 17, 2009, 06:22 PM | # Fred, I don’t know who the puppet-masters are, or even that they necessarily have to exist. My own view is that the immigration disaster in Europe (if not the United States) is entirely self-inflicted and reflects a deep-seated societal malaise which took root in the early post-war period.
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Posted by jamesUK on September 17, 2009, 06:40 PM | # @Dasein Chinese people in Israel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_people_in_Israel Not Jewish Enough to Marry a Cohen 42
Posted by Fred Scrooby on September 17, 2009, 06:41 PM | #
So Snouck’s wrong — Dutchmen really do want to be race-replaced, not to mention Germans, Frenchmen, Englishmen, Swedes, Scotsmen, Irishmen, all the rest — they’re rejoicing in it. 43
Posted by himanu el on September 17, 2009, 07:09 PM | # As you can probably tell, I’m personally sceptical that such figures really do exist and am more inclined to agree with Pogo that “We have met the enemy, and he is us.” To effect any great changes in society, certain people preventing the desired changes must either be silenced, shouted down, killed, or driven out. If you insist on pointing to “us”, whom do we silence, shout down, kill, or drive out? None of us says lightly that Jews are largely or partly to blame; we say it after the collation of abundant proofs drawn from the past three-thousand years of world history. Being agnostic about it—“I don’t know who is doing it!”—brings us back to the beginning where we have to examine those doing something, for if no one’s doing anything we have no reason to complain or desire change, and see just who is doing that something. Very shortly we’ll find that Jews are over-represented among these doers, we’ll say Jews must be stopped, and you, the agnostic type erring on the side of caution, will still be there begging the question and stalling talk of strategy and solutions, because you refuse to believe that Jews are largely or partly to blame or at any rate are a major obstacle in effecting the desired changes; at root this is very deep-seated training at being a good goy who doesn’t offend any people except his own, precisely the attitude held by the majority of that “us” you call the enemy. Jews are something to be overcome. 44
Posted by Dan Dare on September 17, 2009, 07:17 PM | # I think there are two aspects to be considered: that from the perspective of the perpetrators (the liberal managerial elite) and that from the perspective of the victims (the rest of us).
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Posted by Guessedworker on September 17, 2009, 07:33 PM | # himanu el, Not even the National Socialists were Jewish Single-Causers, and nor should we be. National Socialism was a systemic response to a systemic problem. It did not exist to target Jews or communists or conservatives or parliamentary democrats but the entire system in which these supposed threats to the fatherland and the Volk were ensconced. It is important to remember that. Dan mentioned earlier that European nationalists do not view the JQ with the same passion and urgency that American racialists do. I think “studied indifference” is too strong. But there is no appetite for the high octane American strategy, perhaps because even notwithstanding the ghosts of the past, we who know our true European selves also know the history of Jewry in Europe, and we can afford to wait and act aright. Americans, I think, are constitutionally indisposed to the waiting game. That’s fine, and we don’t critique that. But they should grant us our own path to freedom. 46
Posted by Dan Dare on September 17, 2009, 07:33 PM | # “Jews are something to be overcome.”
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Posted by Fred Scrooby on September 17, 2009, 07:45 PM | #
If the absolutely inevitable outcome of what they’re doing — race-replacement — is obvious, which it is, and if they’re forcing it, which they are, it has to be part of their agenda. If you struggle mightily to hold a revolver up to someone’s temple and pull the trigger you can’t say killing him isn’t part of your agenda. Forcing excessive incompatible immigration on a population is no different from that analogy. To say otherwise is to play word games — but yes, we do have functioning eyes in case you were wondering, and no, we don’t suffer from mental retardation, so save your breath.
Like Slick Willy and Karma Chameleon, Blair’s an opportunist eager to toe the line wherever he sniffs out an opportunity and thus was he discovered and funded by certain men, and thus are Zeitgeists created. Created. From the top down. By certain men.
There’s a hard inner core of particular Soros-type élites who are funding this and pushing it to the hilt, who will not back down despite it being obvious by now to all and sundry the people, white people, are fucking sick of it and want it stopped. Certain men behind the scenes refuse to stop it until the job is completed. Those men and their bought underlings and henchmen need to be named. Some we know already — I just named one two sentences ago. 48
Posted by Fred Scrooby on September 17, 2009, 07:55 PM | # I’ll just throw this in — it’s obliquely relevant: Over at Proze’s, Matra clarifies a few differences between Euros and Americans (starting here, http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2009/09/15/little-green-footballs/#comment-18836 ):
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Posted by Armor on September 17, 2009, 07:57 PM | #
If it is not happening by itself, maybe it won’t stop by itself either. Here is an excerpt from a speech by Sam G. Dickson. I think it presents a kind of symmetry with F.Scrooby’s theory :
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Posted by Armor on September 17, 2009, 08:31 PM | #
Some of us think the Jews are doing it. Others think the problem is Christianity gone mad, or the lust for cheap labor… I know that white people are imperfect. Some of them are highly idealistic in a warped way, they lack common sense, feel no racial solidarity, bow easily to intimidation, and are suggestible holier-than-you conformists. All of that helps explain the lack of reaction from the Whites to the mass immigration policy, although I would say the real explanation consists chiefly of intimidation + censorship. Now, here is my question: How come Black Americans do not resist the immigration policy? I think the situation is not so bad for them. They are maintaining their numbers and are not really being replaced by Mexicans. But still, their lives have got harder as a result of mass immigration. Blacks are supposed to be down to earth, racially aware, and not so easily intimidated. So, why do they vote for politicians who support mass immigration from Mexico? Who manipulates the Blacks? Is it the Jews, or the white liberals? Or does anyone think that black elites are interested in cheap labor, or have been contaminated by a suicidal puritanical ideology? 51
Posted by Q on September 17, 2009, 09:00 PM | #
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Posted by Fred Scrooby on September 17, 2009, 10:51 PM | #
Brenda Walker names one in the 1st and 7th paragraphs of this lead piece, up today at Vdare.com: http://www.vdare.com/walker/090916_van_jones.htm .
She names one of those too — or, rather, Gelbaum names one, the man he’s bought, his underling, his henchman (see the first line of the Gelbaum quote), doing his bidding. Bought him for over a hundred million dollars. See the way Gelbaum openly, calmly admits what he did, shelling out a hundred million dollars in order to help his super-rich co-ethnics push in order to help push race-replacement. In the quote he comes across as sort of naïve. He’s not. He’s playing naïve and innocent in order to rub it in all the more. You’re looking at an instance of coldly-calculated payback in a three-thousand-year-old-and-still-running ethnic vendetta. Gelbaum knows precisely what he did in terms of its portent, knows precisely how contentious, how emotional the issue is, knows precisely that people will hate him for it, knows precisely that they can’t touch him. He’s gotten back at his ethnic enemies big-time and he’s gloating like you can’t imagine. In his private moments he talks to his father and grandfather, telling them how he got sweetest revenge on their and their ancestors’ “tormentors.” It’s sweet revenge indeed that you’re willing to plunk down a hundred million dollars for the privilege of savoring — and as everyone knows, revenge is a dish best served cold … the temperature of Gelbaum’s, with his skillful play-acting at coming across so naïve, feels like about Absolute Zero. 53
Posted by Captainchaos on September 17, 2009, 10:56 PM | # Gelbaum, according to Walker, is married to a Mexican woman. So there is that added motivation as well. 54
Posted by Fred Scrooby on September 17, 2009, 11:06 PM | # I wonder what that “Mexican” woman’s ethnicity is? 55
Posted by Frank on September 17, 2009, 11:18 PM | # Armor writes:
Why can’t it be all of the above? In addition I’d add we’ve been corrupted by material well being and a false sense of security and identity with a state that isn’t their nation (e.g. English who think England is English or Americans who think America is American). 56
Posted by Frank on September 17, 2009, 11:20 PM | # Just because it’s popular to say whites are genetically less racially oriented doesn’t mean there’s truth to the claim. Culture has an overwhelming impact on a people, and ours is screaming racial suicide. 57
Posted by AD on September 17, 2009, 11:25 PM | # Fred Scrooby, If the absolutely inevitable outcome of what they’re doing — race-replacement — is obvious, which it is, and if they’re forcing it, which they are, it has to be part of their agenda. It isn’t obvious. Even very intelligent people need it spelled out—if they even first permit themselves to think about it. Secondly, it’s perfectly possible it’s a side-effect of a process designed to achieve something else entirely. You’ve been most reluctant to consider this possibility, probably for fear it might set your whole edifice crumbling. Yet there it is. See the way Gelbaum openly, calmly admits what he did, shelling out a hundred million dollars in order to help his super-rich co-ethnics push in order to help push race-replacement. In the quote he comes across as sort of naïve. He’s not. He’s playing naïve and innocent in order to rub it in all the more. You’re looking at an instance of coldly-calculated payback in a three-thousand-year-old-and-still-running ethnic vendetta. He himself is married to a Mexican, so if he’s an intentional race-replacer at least he’s consistent. ( Sam Dickson: In the many decades I have toiled in the vineyards of American racial nationalism, I have heard very few solutions offered to our people. We have been long on problems and negativity, and very short on solutions. This is a failure of leadership. In other words, his own failure. Nice of him to own up.) 58
Posted by Q on September 17, 2009, 11:55 PM | #
The answer is: Jews are doing it to us through mass indoctrination of “anti-racism” via the media. It ain’t Christianity gone mad. It’s the coercive indoctrination of anti-racism into the minds of most white Christians. Ditto for most white atheists, agnostics, pagans, pantheists etc. Anti-racism—invented by the Jews—is the virus. Not Christianity. 59
Posted by Lurker on September 17, 2009, 11:57 PM | # Gelbaum’s reasoning is quite consistent for his buying the Sierra Club. How can he stop others moving to the US, as his ancestors did? (And the missus being an immigrant and all) Another entirely consistent argument that follows from that, knowing what he has done, is that his ancestors should never have been allowed into the US in the first place. Thats a line Ive tried to push to other people anyhow. I think people (those who dont know) would be staggered at the amount he had put up to buy the Sierra Club. 60
Posted by Captainchaos on September 18, 2009, 12:22 AM | #
What is consistently shocking to me is the lack of appreciation for the sublime aesthetic which National Socialism embodies: ennoblement. The abiding faith that if a people is unshakably loyal out of love for each other, and shows courage to the end though their efforts end in greatest grief, redemption will not ultimately pass them by. One faith-gener with Kraut ancestry wrote this of tragedy and triumph:
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Posted by Captainchaos on September 18, 2009, 12:53 AM | # In other words, “men” like Nick Griffin and Lee Barnes (and Dan Dare?) are not even worthy to lick the feet people like Horst Mahler and Sylvia Stolz. And if one spits upon the latter, avowed National Socialists both, one scorns what is best in us, or at least Krauts. 62
Posted by Dan Dare on September 18, 2009, 01:38 AM | # Gelbaum buying the Sierra Club would probably translate in the European context to Alan Sugar buying Greenpeace. A deplorable development for sure, but in what sense does either transaction inflect upon state policy to any meaningful degree?
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Posted by Frank on September 18, 2009, 04:08 AM | #
Supposedly Yankee Protestants (e.g. Unitarians) in the US were anti-racist before the Jews arrived here. As soon as the North stopped making money off selling the South slaves, it began to question the morality of slavery. I say “supposedly” because I haven’t closely studied it, and there’s a lot to gain from shifting blame etc. Dr. Gottfried’s got a book out that blames Yankee Protestants. If one of GT’s microsocieties ever arises, I’d love to have a circle of retired or partially retired wise men who could research these issues and reliably answer our questions. It’s not clear how far we might have gone without Jews. Whatever the complete picture, we can clearly see a prominent role Jews have played in post-WWII America’s cultural corruption (greatly aided by the popularity of the TV). The Civil Rights movement and 1965 Immigration Act are two noteworthy events they heavily took part in, as did Catholics like Sen. Kennedy of course). I would say the Civil Rights movement has been more damaging than the Immigration Act because it resulted in essentially making it illegal to be American. Without the freedom to discriminate, we’ve endured great difficulty at remaining separate. We often hear how Jews were part of National Review in America, but if you look at the roles they played (e.g. Fusionism) it wasn’t positive. And I see no value in Rothbard’s anarcho-capitalism. There were good men who wrote at National Review which makes the presence of Detracters there all the more regrettable. - It’s important to look back and learn from any mistakes we made. The West’s suicide (which I mean in this sense as something that may be followed by a rebirth) is an opportunity to improve ourselves - to ensure the errors we made then won’t happen again. Blaming all on the Jews risks our not correcting our own errors, including those errors that allowed the Jews to do such damage in the first place (“culture” such as theirs should be illegal imo). Appropriate decentralisation and protections against federal expansion of power is another protection. The parts are meant to serve the whole, but the whole benefits if it’s prevented from morphing into a monstrosity as we have here. Institutions such as the state like individual humans are short lived. We should plan for this so the nation which these institutions exist to serve is protected and able to endure and rebuild when the institutions go corrupt. We may blame Jews all we like, but the fact that we allowed this alien race to cause such damage is partly our fault. We should never have allowed them in, and we should have never allowed them such powers. This was and somewhat still is our nation; losing to a weaker enemy out of apathy is just pathetic. 64
Posted by Frank on September 18, 2009, 04:15 AM | #
Bollocks. We ruled the non-Communist world after WWII. Only recently have we lost our grip. I would love to see a study done on Jews in England. I’ve only read bits and pieces… 66
Posted by Dasein on September 18, 2009, 05:29 AM | #
How many Australian troops are stationed in Western Europe? How many films and TV shows play in Europe that come out of a Jewish-dominated Aussiewood? You can’t compare US influence in Europe to any other country’s. It’s not X % of Australia’s; it’s something completely different. Just ask the Serbians.
What you need to do is analyze the collapse of the Western immune system. MacDonald documents this very well in CoC. The influence of people like Boas and Freud was critical. White people are absolutely terrified of exhibiting any form of healthy immune response (publicly protesting their own race-replacement). Without Jews, that immune system would still exist. Yes, some parts of the European body have now taken on an auto-immune function (e.g. any White-owned liberal paper whose editorial policy is to demonize White ethnocentrism), but the parasitic viral infection that caused the intial collapse is still there. Until Jewish influence is neutralized, there will be no cure. 67
Posted by Captainchaos on September 18, 2009, 05:36 AM | # With regards to the relative importance of Amerikwa to the future of our race, as usual, despite his best efforts at pedantry, Dare doesn’t know what the fuck he is talking about. There are at least as many Whites of Northern European descent - the most valuable portion of our race - in North America as in Northern Europe, and with a much higher birth rate. As for North America itself, the land mass is obviously much more capable of sustaining the life of many more of our people than Europe itself and is therefore more valuable to the furtherance of our EGI. Also, as GT has pointed out, our people have not undergone the dysgenic attrition of the two World Wars as have native Europeans, which killed off the genes of its bravest men. As for any “cultural” legacy of Amerikwa, I say throw every last bit of it on the fire and good riddance. We’ve got the genetic material and a great patch of land, that’s much to build with. What I suspect has Dare’s panties in a bunch (once again) is his intuitive sense that unless White Nationalism triumphs in North America England is toast. If we win here, global pro-White revolution will be an afterthought. As for Jews, whenever you turn over an anti-White rock, there are the little grubs squirming under it; checking to see which Jews are under which rocks is a mere formality. 68
Posted by Dasein on September 18, 2009, 06:30 AM | #
I think American Negroes, especially the elite ones, know that they are massive beneficiaries of the current racial wealth transfer system. To vigorously oppose the Hispanic lobby on this issue would be to throw the current system into question. I’ve also seen anectdotal evidence that American Negroes are much more vocal in their opposition to Hispanic immigration, but, for the reasons mentioned, you won’t see this from its leaders. They’re are genocidal as ours. 69
Posted by Dasein on September 18, 2009, 08:24 AM | # I think sometimes there’s not enough focus placed on the activity of Jews early in the 20th century, when they were reaching critical titre. That was one of the most interesting things about Imperium; that Yockey had so brilliantly analyzed their role as ‘culture distorters’, long before the first hippy lit a spliff. 70
Posted by Lurker on September 18, 2009, 09:33 AM | # If the US were to become an avowed pro-white state (I vote for CC as Prez) the game would up for the multicultists (Jewish and their fellow travellers) in Australia, Austria and everywhere else. 71
Posted by Q on September 18, 2009, 12:11 PM | # I think American Negroes, especially the elite ones, know that they are massive beneficiaries of the current racial wealth transfer system. True. To vigorously oppose the Hispanic lobby on this issue would be to throw the current system into question. That’s a dilemma in the minds of many blacks; however, their strong underlying motivation to overthrow whitey trumps any apparent hypocrisy they know they reveal. I’ve also seen anectdotal evidence that American Negroes are much more vocal in their opposition to Hispanic immigration It’s only anecdotal. In general, blacks are support race-replacement of whites at any cost. They’re are genocidal as ours. No they’re not! Their fertility rate and unparalleled racial solidarity is proof of that. 72
Posted by Lurker on September 18, 2009, 12:46 PM | #
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Posted by Fred Scrooby on September 18, 2009, 12:47 PM | #
No, we’re at the point where the Dan Dares of this world are going to have to open their eyes and use the sense they were born with instead of thinking the people are doing this to themselves. I have no “coterie.” In the other thread is a speech by Jonathan Bowden in which he mentions the British Human Rights & Equality Commission, which, he added, receives a hundred million pounds a year from the government. He said it grew out of a predecessor called “The Commission for Racial Equality,” itself preceded in the late 1960s by the “Race Relations Board.” Where do such government entities come from (and extremely powerful and intrusive, to boot), do you suppose, Dan? Do the white people clamor for them to be set up? Obviously not. Who are the men at the root of the money and influence that get these monstrosities set up and funded? Are they Englishmen? Some, doubtless yes. There are all sorts of weird Englishmen, communists, what-have-you. Who else? If you’re stumped, take a second look at the title of each, then ask yourself who, which people, are obsessed with those subjects to the point of stipulating the donation or the withholding of fortunes in political cash depending on which ambitious politician-front-man, is willing to do as he’s told in return for being given a political career with all the trappings. 74
Posted by Q on September 18, 2009, 01:15 PM | #
Good point, Lurker. Jews provide the intellectual firepower that enable blacks to launch their constant salvo of attacks—both physically and rhetorically—against whites. Remove the Jews from the equation, and we could put blacks back into their rightful place in society. 75
Posted by Dan Dare on September 18, 2009, 01:40 PM | #
I don’t normally feel compelled to respond to the Cap’n’s content-free dyspeptic jibes, but in this case I’ll make an exception. Nick Griffin and Lee Barnes are being unreasonably slighted here. The former has one conviction already for transgressing Britain’s Orwellian’s anti-free speech laws, and narrowly escaped a second. Lee Barnes of course operates a daily blog which often sails very close to the wind in such matters, and is quite open with respect to his real identity. It would be interesting and perhaps even inspiring to examine the Cap’n’s library of press clippings highlighting his own public protests against the establishment’s persecution of free-speech martyrs. I’m sure he must have bomdarded the MSM with Letters to the Editor denouncing the extraditions of Germar Rudolf and Ernst Zündel. Can we see them please? I hope it wouldn’t be considered too impertinent to bring up the inconveneient point that the principal agents responsible for the persecution of free-speech campaigners in the BRD, like Mahler et al, are themselves Krauts. 76
Posted by Captainchaos on September 18, 2009, 02:57 PM | #
I was not even racially awake at the time of their extraditions. When arguing with anti-White genocidalists on other blogs I do mention them, and Stolz, and Mahler.
Most notably at Takimag, but, regrettably, all comments have been permanently deleted from that site. Nor is one free to comment there any longer.
If they are hellbent on taking the BNP down the road of culturist faileoconservatism then they most certainly do deserve unreserved criticism.
I’m much too blunt spoken for that to be productive at this time, for the reason that I do not support unrestricted free speech. For instance, if the Jews are to live amongst us, I would recommend that whenever in public, they should be legally obliged to have ball gags in their mouths. Just kidding. But I certainly would not allow them unrestricted free speech, freedom of association and freedom of asset disposal. Not a chance in hell. And to speak honestly on that count would have me branded by the lemmings as a hypocrite at best, so inculcated to a universal moral code are they - one I do not subscribe to.
Race traitors all. But it is the Jews that dispense the cash and pull the strings behind the scenes that are ultimately responsible. The kikes are a necessary but not solely sufficient cause of our plight. Also, those race traitors can be rehabilitated, or at least their progeny can. The Jews? Nope. They must be expelled. Which is what will eventually have to be done, which is what the Germans tried to do, which is why all those filthy Krauts pappy burned alive died for nothing. 77
Posted by Dan Dare on September 18, 2009, 02:59 PM | #
Fred, I am entirely open to being ‘converted’ should a persuasive case be made. At present, however, what you are suggesting amounts more to an exhortation to subscribe to an Article of Faith, as opposed to coherent argumentation. I’m afraid you’re coming across rather like dear old Mu’adDib on Stormfront, who used to refuse to enter into discussion on the JQ with any mere infidel until they had attested to have throughly read all of the two dozen or so anti-Semitic screeds linked to in his sig.
I’m well aware of the circumstances which led up to the first Race Relations Act in 1965, and which in turn brought the Race Relations Board into being. If you would like to explore the matter in detail yourself, I can recommend Randall Hansen’s Citizenship and Immigration in Post-war Britain, OUP, 2000. He has a complete chapter on the Act and its origins.
So, here we are again, back at the original starting point. I simply have no clue as to who the shadowy financial manipulators might have been who coerced the Attlee, Churchill, Macmillan, Douglas-Home, Wilson, Heath and (again) Wilson governments into acquiescing in the ‘race replacement’ project. They simply do not figure in any of the literature on the subject and period with which I am familiar. But you seem to have some inside knowledge that is apparently being suppressed. Can you share it with us? 78
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Posted by Fred Scrooby on September 18, 2009, 04:20 PM | # Dan Dare, does Karma Chameleon believe there are too many white faces in Parliament? Does he himself actually think that? Or is that merely what his backers and funders expect him to say in return for their backing and funding? Is he being honest when he refuses to acknowledge any immigration problem at all? Or is that refusal the same as above (the public stance his backers and funders insist he take or lose their backing and funding)? Once we know it’s not him but his backers and funders, it’s a question of seeing who they are. 80
Posted by Fred Scrooby on September 18, 2009, 04:40 PM | #
Unless you know the ethnicities of all the chief people pushing and funding it you don’t know diddly-squat about why it came into being. If you know their ethnicities, please state them. If not, you know zero. And please don’t tell me “so-and-so pushed it, and he’s English.” In that case I want to know who funded and pushed so-and-so. You never heard of frontmen?
Does Hansen’s chapter include the ethnicities of all the chief men pushing and funding it? If not, Hansen doesn’t know didly-squat either, about why it came into being. Same thing for the “British Human Rights & Equality Commission” and “The Commission for Racial Equality”: do you or Hansen know the ethncities of all the chief men pushing and funding them when they were first set up? If not, neither of you knows squat about why they were first set up. You have the kind of brain, Dan, that can’t fill in the gaps based on the rest of the obvious pattern right before your nose. You can only understand figures, figures thrust before your eyes. That kind of brain can’t surmise. It can’t put two and two together and get four. It can’t connect the dots. 81
Posted by Captainchaos on September 18, 2009, 05:12 PM | #
Northern European countries have higher average IQs than other European countries, and correspondingly, more productive economies; I’m afraid it is all too true. Is preserving our Northern European blood of no consequence to you? Let’s have an answer, now.
But the birth rate, Dan, the birth rate. American Whites presently have a total fertility rate of 1.9, if I’m not mistaken. Not bad, considering.
That is your characterization, not mine. Yet preserving Nordic peoples is more important to me, I will confess. As if should be to you.
So North America is of very nearly equal value from the standpoint of carrying capacity then.
Uh oh, perhaps you may need some Lebensraum of your own? A reconquered and cleansed North America perhaps? Or should the birth rates be allowed to continue to fall precipitously?
So long as Amerikwa can field an army of ten million White men it can take all comers. So long as enough American Whites are sufficiently loyal to serve in the armed forces Europe is not safe. The American regime would never allow a nationalist (read: “Nazi”) government to exercise power in a way necessary to actually make a difference in Europe.
I don’t foresee a political solution.
For Europe’s sake you had best hope that is not the case, without victory in North America Europe will have no survival. 82
Posted by Dan Dare on September 18, 2009, 05:20 PM | # All the principal actors are well-known. Only one of them, Frank Soskice the Home Secretary in the first Labour government, was of Jewish extraction.
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Posted by Desmond Jones on September 18, 2009, 05:55 PM | #
Leon Brittan and Malcolm Rivkind regarding the Public Order Act of 1986 84
Posted by Dan Dare on September 18, 2009, 07:09 PM | # You forgot to mention that Anthony Lester is also widely credited as being the architect of the Human Rights Act.
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Posted by Fred Scrooby on September 18, 2009, 07:33 PM | #
Why would Labour want that? Trying to understanding this stuff is like a police detective trying to connect the dots of a murder: what was the motive? He can’t connect the dots and start zeroing in on the killer until he’s able to answer that simple question. What was Labour’s motive? As for what took place from 1948 to 1971, that’s not the whole question: the rest of the question is, “Governments, parliaments, legislatures, parties, men, make mistakes. Then sanity prevails and the mistakes are mended. Why wasn’t the mistake of 1948 to 1971 corrected in 1972? ‘73? ‘75? ‘80? ‘95? 2009? What’s been holding up the correction that normally would have come long-since? What forces were/are preventing it? What forces were quietly beating back the Powellite corrective forces? What forces are quietly beating back the corrective forces of today? Slavery in Dixie was a mistake. But men made corrections such that, until 1965, its ill effects weren’t the death of this country. In fact, the country throve. It was a kind of paradise here. Then the (fill in the blank) ______ got involved and ... you’ve all heard of “Paradise Lost”? Well, that’s what you could call what came next. And it’s what’s still coming now: Paradise Lost. Why? Why hasn’t it been corrected, given that everyone sees the problem? It hasn’t been corrected because, as Steven Palese said, “Something’s blocking the democratic process.” What is that something? What it is is the same force that’s preventing the Sierra Club from fulfilling its normal function as a conservation organization. It’s the same force that makes the cricket jump into the water and drown. (do a site search for “gordian worm”) 86
Posted by Dan Dare on September 18, 2009, 07:39 PM | #
Happy to oblige. The answer’s yes, of course. I’m rather surprised you should need to ask.
Assuming North Americans will be able to manage on per-capita energy consumption about one-fifth of current levels, then yes that could be true. But your earlier claim was that its carrying capacity is much higher than Europe, which is plainly not the case.
I hope it won’t happen but I think a prudent long-term planning assumption for Europeans would be that North America will continue along its present political and demographic trajectory, resulting in its ‘loss’ to the Eurosphere sometime later this century. At that time much of its productive capacity will be absorbed in supporting its own gigantic population (570 million by 2100 according to a recent Census Bureau projection, plus another 50 million or so in Canada) as well as feeding much of the rest of the third world, to which by that time North America will have closer ancestral and cultural ties than to Europe itself. As for European birthrates, I am a supporter of the proposition that its population should be allowed to gently decline to a long-term sustainable level, and then stabilised at that level.
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Posted by Desmond Jones on September 18, 2009, 07:39 PM | # For those who wish to assist the cause, career opportunities are available.
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Posted by Desmond Jones on September 18, 2009, 07:58 PM | #
http://www.iamanenglishman.com/page.php?iCategoryId=517&iParentId=66
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Posted by Dan Dare on September 18, 2009, 08:18 PM | # Desmond, have you just discovered the Runnymede Trust? You have been leading a sheltered life!
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Posted by Fred Scrooby on September 18, 2009, 09:11 PM | # Lord Puttnam, mentioned in Desmond’s excerpt, is also Jewish, another Hebrew race-replacment-advocating life peer created by Blair. There are about a dozen such, at least, male and female, all Jews, all rabid Eurogoy-hating race-replacement advocates, all sporting Anglo-Saxon names now that they’re “lords and ladies,” all having played a role in organizing Blair’s funding, managing, and handling. A moment’s glance at the specific ways in which Karma Chameleon has “grown” since becoming party leader leaves not a shred of doubt as to who now holds the leash fastened securely around his neck. Extreme Jewish tribalist Lord Hollick, by the way, is also one of Blair’s Jews, made by him a life peer. He is the founder of IPPR, an outfit no less of a Jewish tribalist organ agitating for Euro overthrow than the ADL, the $PLC, SOS Racism in France, and literally hundreds of others. 91
Posted by Fred Scrooby on September 18, 2009, 10:20 PM | # LICRA in France is another Jewish tribalist outfit agitating very effectively for Euro overthrow in that country. I don’t refer to these outfits as left-wing, because what they’re doing is fundamentally different from “left-wing.” They’re Jewish tribalist, and what they do is meant as an attack on their tribal rivals (or, as they see it, a counterattack: in their eyes our tribe, the Euros, is oppressing theirs, the Jews, and they’re not attacking but counterattacking — in their eyes they’re striking back at an oppressor of Jews and defending themselves). These Jewish groups are all the same, all with the same motivation: the ADL, the ACLU, the $PLC, the IPPR, LICRA, and the list goes on. 92
Posted by Frank on September 18, 2009, 10:53 PM | # I don’t have time to jump into everything, but I wanted to quickly note: CC writes:
According to Nick Griffin’s comments on TPC, either Russia or North America need to become “nationalist” for Europe’s sake. Btw, I very much like Australia and NZ because they’re islands. They might not be as useful as America and Russia, but if the natives there were removed, along with the violent Muslims and other recent immigrants, it could serve well as a preserve and back up. If we can figure how to reawaken whites sometime in the next decade, we’re potentially in a good position with regard to living space. 93
Posted by Desmond Jones on September 18, 2009, 11:13 PM | # There is no evidence Jews were involved in the “formulation of race and immigration policy” of the Republican party platform of 1864;
however, as Fred eloquently stated, it’s not the whole game, because when resistance to mass immigration came in the early 1890s, it was organised Jewry that led the charge to stay the actions of a natural healthy immune system. The efforts of the NF, in the 1970s are in a way the equivalent to that of the KKK of the 1920s. Founding Americans found a way to overcome. Indigenous Britons could not. Possibly because of their own supremacy myth. “We were not ignoble to our Jews”. 94
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Posted by Frank on September 19, 2009, 03:32 AM | # I dunno that Jews were behind this: Anti-Racism PSA from The DuMont Network (1949) Courtesy of The Monitor. 96
Posted by Frank on September 19, 2009, 05:17 AM | # The Monitor points to immigrant Jew David Sarnoff as blameworthy:
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Posted by Frank on September 19, 2009, 08:03 AM | # Dan Dare writes:
Had the US not fallen as it did, it would be far more important. There was nothing after WWII. America’s free trade and more direct aid rebuilt the world, including Europe and East Asia. Had America pursued protectionist trade and kept out immigrants, it would be something like 3/4 or more of the world economy right now… Once Jews help destroy a country, their influence there should be dismissed because said country is no longer relevant? That’s essentially what you’re saying. Essentially, Jews should be embraced in England because, once America is dismissed, there’s relatively little reason to be wary of them. The cause of the decline is likely in large part America’s responsibility. If you can’t pinpoint Jews in Europe, trace back influence coming from America. 98
Posted by Frank on September 19, 2009, 08:11 AM | #
No worries your Muslim and negro “Europeans” will keep up the birth rate for you. You’ve got to first expel them before the birthrate no longer matters. To the extent it’s still legal and politically wise to say, Englishmen should wish to expel the aliens in their midst, including Jews, older aliens, and half breeds. We Americans can all plainly see you’re following America’s example. You dismiss us as if we’re lower, and yet you insist on taking the same path towards America. Your words do not reflect your actions; clearly you wish to be American. And we Americans will tell you now: you do not wish to take such a path. Everything that makes England higher than the US will be lost if you continue on as you are. We might even become higher, more English than the English, if you keep mixing. 99
Posted by Captainchaos on September 19, 2009, 09:00 AM | #
America’s influence in Western Europe is profound, militarily, financially and culturally. With that weight already on your shoulders - which obviously includes that of America’s many and influential Jews - in addition to the internal rot and downward inertia you yourself point to in Western Europe itself, it would take an effort of Herculean proportions to cast off the latter and correct the former. It would be one probably surpassing the near miraculous rebirth of Germany achieved by the National Socialists in such a short time. It would necessarily include, as Frank says, the mass expulsion of aliens, if not mongrels - if only for the reason that they would be around as a political boulder in your path - and the collective remilitarization of most of the nations of Western Europe; which would render necessary nationalist governments having been formed in all involved. Why collective remilitarization? Because, and this is manifestly the truth, those that run the American regime, and those that benefit from the current dispensation, will never sacrifice their grip on power, nor allow a real threat to materialize to it. A real threat: Whites actually in control of their evolutionary destiny, no longer merely fodder in their machine of exploitation that seeks to use us up and discard us as trash, and with the power to secure it. In other words, and this will be the hardest bit to swallow for you, Germany’s burden (and Germans did all that it was humanly possible for them to have done) will have passed to you. If that burden be too heavy, if you cannot carry it forward, then it lies with us. And if White Americans cannot, then there truly is no hope. 100
Posted by Captainchaos on September 19, 2009, 09:03 AM | # cast off the former and correct the latter 101
Posted by Captainchaos on September 19, 2009, 10:29 AM | #
A myth of considerable plasticity. Unless those that loath National Socialism hold King Edward the First in similar contempt. Bad shit happens when you try to expel the Jews, because the lemmings can be tricked into valuing “fairness” towards the Other rather than the good of their own blood. Perhaps to cynically genuflect before that reality is understandable, however squalid in principle, but to actually revel in one’s alleged moral superiority whilst doing it is, well, fucked up. We are then told burning all those Krauts alive has to be considered in context, yet also to look to the horizon of past and future, so as to perceive the eternal good, as the elevated perspective of “philosophy” affords. And what is that eternal good? That ultimate end? Survival. Not a sense of smugness that the present moment affords. Which is self defeating. How so? It obscures perception in the present of the eternal good, past and future. And if the chain link of the present with that of the future is broken, out of self-soothing moral superiority, or what have you, then the eternal good will have perished for all eternity. I wonder if Dare likes “philosophy” much? 102
Posted by Frank on September 19, 2009, 10:39 AM | #
Historically it’s surely abnormal to have so many nonwhites mix in as apparently are right now (going by what was said in here). I suspect the English don’t realise how historically significant the mixing is and what it will do to their national identities which thanks to modern technology is increasingly rooted in racial reality. Most important it sounds like is Jews and part-Jews in their elite. The elite is supposed to be made up of the best of a race… If the best stock is mixed and thus made traitorous, that’s surely dangerous - though perhaps lacking a solid identity they won’t find the drive to fight like a real Englishman. America can Balkanise more easily than can England, and as I said before: we really need England to remain English for our own identities. Though we could survive on the mere myth of the English race that once was, but chose opium over duty… It’s not much to take pride in, but it’s a good reminder of how easily man can fall. 103
Posted by Dan Dare on September 19, 2009, 11:49 AM | #
Naah. It’s wot yer loony Krauts and froggie poofters get up to, innit. 104
Posted by Captainchaos on September 19, 2009, 11:54 AM | # Another scenario for Dare’s consideration: America goes down his he predicts, not without a hint of schadenfreude. In which case, obviously, the Jews will not have clung to it as their last hope, smashing all enemies, internal and external, and will be looking to move on to greener pastures. Where to? China? India? Most likely not. The Jews have not co-evolved with those peoples and may well find them impermeable for that reason, their parasitism having been especially adapted to a European milieu. So where to then? Europe. A Europe that will still be limping on, or perhaps even revitalized to a degree, consistent with the half-measured culturist nationalism, and studiously indifferent, if not philo-Semitic tack taken to the Jewish Question which Dare exhorts. Permeable to Jews? Well yes. And if that is not desirable, why then does Dare wish all Jews to make “Aliyah?” Will the Jews make that journey on their own? Of course not, only a fool could think that; and no amount of pedantry could establish that contention, in fact the opposite. Which why I suspect GW looks slightly askance at “book-learning,” for it may cause one too enamored of it, and lacking in an instinctive awareness of what is, refined and brought to fruition by philosophy, to miss the forest because his attention is solely focused on the trees. The object of the game is to save the forest from burning to the ground, after all. 105
Posted by Frank on September 19, 2009, 12:35 PM | #
He’ll change his position eventually. Dr. Fleming and others have recommending reading from different historical periods to gather a more complete understanding of the world. Of course GW doesn’t find the founding religion sacred, so he’d be more open to questioning that while others would declare it sacred and unquestionable. “for it may cause one too enamored of it” Those who ape the “correct” opinions have no opinions of their own; they have other peoples’ opinions. Part of book learning is supposed to be the encouraging of thinking for oneself… And in comparing the alleged with the real world so that one isn’t worshiping mere shadows, or at least not completely. Those who’ve won honours with their book learning enjoy being praised for having the “correct” opinions. They love lording over those who haven’t read the greats, but who are often in my experience more intelligent. The local cop or mechanic often has better sense than most professors… Heh, and of course if Aristotle and Plato and Cicero encourage more racial thinking, professors may simply feign otherwise and so win more praise and status. 106
Posted by Captainchaos on September 19, 2009, 12:35 PM | #
We see here Dare’s reflexive, unreflecting embrace of English “empiricism”, and of course, “moral” superiority. If that be unadaptive, as I contend and believe I have shown, then it is necessary to elevate your consciousness, and aid in the elevation of the consciousness of your people, to a level which allows them to transcend it to the degree necessary to survive. Or at least adjust it to be adaptive in light of the dangers they now face - which include Jewry, there and abroad (most significantly in Amurrikwa). It is not for nothing that GW is now raiding the treasure trove of philosophy which the Krauts have, with crazed gluttony, hoarded over the centuries.
I’m afraid the sanguine call of “Fuck you, mate!” in response to whatever Krauts may come to the table with just won’t cut it any longer. “Brits vs. Krauts,” a model of I think not impotent predictive power, which perhaps should not be discarded until a synthesis is achieved. No, I don’t mean genetic amalgamation, although that would be one solution (assuming substantive genetic differences exist, which is what the desire to remain separate implies Englishmen themselves believe, otherwise what is lost by genetic amalgamation?). Btw, I’m also of English and Scottish ancestry, so, truly, no hard feelings on my part. 107
Posted by Dan Dare on September 19, 2009, 12:36 PM | # I expect that over the time period in question, and as a consequence of the inevitable global conflicts over resources during what Nick Griffin terms the forthcoming Age of Shortages, the EU (now including the FSU) and NATO (less the USA) to morph into a Festung Europa. The US will have become the granary of the Chinese Empire.
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Posted by Frank on September 19, 2009, 12:46 PM | #
It’s more a matter of descent and cultural roots there. Just as a clan declares itself separate, a nation can do the same - an ethnogenesis. It’s good for people to have a smallish group and a place of belonging. Though as you know, that can devolve down to absurdity… And economics and overall power and unity is lessened by such divisions. So, balance is the goal. England wouldn’t die from letting in a few Nordics, even Krauts. But having in Jews and nonwhites to enter is surely too much. 109
Posted by Frank on September 19, 2009, 12:49 PM | # Brits might possibly have split from Krauts 10k years ago (though mixing has continued), but they split from Africans what, 1 million years ago? if ever? 110
Posted by Captainchaos on September 19, 2009, 01:09 PM | # GW is not opposed to book learning per se. He just thinks an academic mind may become ossified, or perhaps lack that creative spark, necessary to come to fresh thinking. I’ve seen him tear to shreds “intellectuals”. And he can sure as hell write better than them. Pick any contributor here out of a hat, and they could take all comers at Takimag to the woodshed. Of course I did take Spencer and Gottfried to the woodshed, which is why they shut down the comments section. Not to mention JamesUK, here he is and flirting with White Nationalism (he hates Jews so much he even thinks NS was a Jewish conspiracy - LOL!). 111
Posted by Frank on September 19, 2009, 01:23 PM | #
There’s at least one there he couldn’t take. I’ve linked to his 2 or 3 articles there before. How he got there of all places, I dunno. The articles are worthy of TOQ. 112
Posted by Frank on September 19, 2009, 01:42 PM | # Gottfried is brilliant. I don’t know about Spencer. I’m wary of Gottfried on certain relevant subjects…, but he’s clearly a master in his field. Just because they chose not to debate you doesn’t mean they couldn’t have responded in private. That doesn’t mean they could have beaten you, but you can’t know unless you get them to actually face you in a duel. Prozium got one, but I can’t locate his name on the masthead atm… Shutting you out was an elitist thing to do. I was at the time in favour of it, lol. I was trying to push a soft racial awareness… And maybe you were right - I’m never fully certain about any little strategy I’m using… As The Narrator said: the devil leads when you dance with him. You’ve either gotten much wiser since then or I’ve come to understand that a German praising NS isn’t necessarily dreaming of dominance, mass murder, white amalgamation, cult of reason, and an impersonal/technocratic state. That is assuming he’s not a Moby, which haha you know was and still somewhat is my first reaction when meeting an NS… I’d gotten to the point where I didn’t think y’all actually existed except as puppets being directed by others. 113
Posted by Frank on September 19, 2009, 01:59 PM | # I don’t mean that as a slight on NS which at least the version you portray is very appealing. Rather, I mean that as a slight against all the nuts who represent it post-war. I posted some links in a past thread here - where we discussed Russia and Putin (which I still need to reply on). 114
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Posted by Frank on September 19, 2009, 03:02 PM | # Here’s one of the articles CC: The Wrongs of “Rights”. And here’s another: I Saw Iceland Melt. 116
Posted by Frank on September 19, 2009, 03:22 PM | # Looking back at them… the former’s still good. The latter stayed in my mind because of this part:
Anyway, you have Kalb again who posted there too. That said, this site does have a lot of intelligence… as do some other far right sites. I guess that means we’re finally coming into our own if elites truly do run societies and educating an elite is what we needed to do. Now we just need to… become part of the elite… Dan Dare, Thanks kinda funny ^^ That’s not quite the stereotype I think of though when I think of the modern-day NS folks though. With them I think of these small brained bullies who wish to feel superior and dominate someone or join some powerful group and push for violence without any moral consideration out of love of evolution - that kinda thing. I’m not sure where I got such a concept either. Maybe… Stormfront? CC’s views are little different from my own, though it took me a long time to see that. He just stamps a different label on. 117
Posted by Frank on September 19, 2009, 03:28 PM | # I’m sure I’ve mentioned the Serbian “NS” I met in college who wished to prove his superiority by spreading his seed to many girls, of whatever race. He was interested in physics and demonstrating his mental superiority that way and in working out and demonstrating his physical superiority there. And he liked a song from American History X, as well as Einstein… That post-modernism or whatever call it just makes me want to punch the person… It’s wholly antithetical to my own views. Maybe it’s ironic I say punching the person, but there’s no way to debate someone who just wants to push people around and sing triumphant songs without thinking. I can’t stand people like that. 118
Posted by To:CaptainChaos on September 21, 2009, 11:01 PM | # Hey CC - came across a website you would probably enjoy since you have a strong historical interest in German National Socialism—-> http://www.germanpropaganda.blogspot.com/ Lots of original stuff is there; previously unpublished/unknown translations and NS-era artwork; REAL HISTORY straight from the primary sources, no secondary source hogwash or Jewlies. That blog is from the same guy who runs the big a popular ‘German Propaganda Archive’ via a college website at http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/—and he has also published a few books about NS Germany, including one that looks particularly good which contains unedited and uncensored key speeches of major NS figures: Landmark Speeches Of National Socialism Even some NS memorabilia for sale…“4 issues of Volk und Rasse: Volk und Rasse was a montly racial magazine published by the J.F. Lehmanns Verlag, which had a long history of publishing racist material, and adopted easily to the Nazi takeover. I have the February, August, September, and October 1942 issues, all in good condition. Price: $18 each, or all for for $50. Shipping: $3.” - http://www.bytwerk.com/shop/ 119
Posted by To:CaptainChaos on September 21, 2009, 11:48 PM | # Some more interesting NS propaganda, this time a bunch of posters; one I came across bearing that fairly well known ‘prophetic’ phrase which is an extract from a January 1939 speech by Hitler warning ‘international finance Jewry’ what would happen to them in Europe (the Hollyco$t, possibly?) if they started another war there and thus attempted to enslave White Europe under Judeocommunism: 120
Posted by To:Matt Nuenke on September 24, 2009, 08:53 AM | # Hey Mr. Nuenke - not sure if you will read this, but just wanted to say that your website, http://www.neoeugenics.net/ is re,ally great. However, a tip: you should set up a ‘blogging’ website similar to the website http://hbdbooks.com/ and p,ost all of your book reviews and writings there so that people can comment on them. Or maybe all you need to do is download the blogging software on to your already existing website and then repost your writings in the blog format? This will help to expose your writings to a larger audience and also let people direct comments to you. Just a thought. 121
Posted by Wandrin on September 28, 2009, 10:24 AM | # “Is it time to be open about Whites versus Jews?” On sites like this or academic work like Professor MacDonald then yes. However if one is involved in open mainstream politics then i’d say no, never. They’ve spent 60 years brain-washing people that jew equals victim. If you mention jews directly in a negative way then you trigger that brain-washing, people shut down straight away and you lose the argument regardless of the facts. In mainstream politics one has to be covert and talk of globalism, bankers, marxists, liberals, anti-white racists etc. If one looks at our people’s political views as existing along a spectrum from A to Z where A is contentment with the status quo and Z is revolutionary nationalist then if you want to convert someone to the cause you have to take them one step at a time from where they are. So if they’re at point A you take them to B. If they’re at B then you take them to C etc. If you can take them to the point where they see they’re under direct attack from both global capitalism on the right and marxist cultural warfare on the left then they’ll join the dots on their own. 122
Posted by Wandrin on September 28, 2009, 10:32 AM | # Something i forgot to add to my previous post. If one is desperate to attack jews more directly in open politics then do it through attacking Israel. It’s personally not my thing as i have no problem with jews in Israel but it works as a tactic. 123
Posted by Frank on October 03, 2009, 05:09 PM | # Jews Assists Ancient Chinese to Make Earliest Paper Money
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Posted by Frank on October 04, 2009, 12:19 AM | # Mahmoud Ahmadinejad revealed to have Jewish past
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Posted by Fred Scrooby on October 04, 2009, 09:19 AM | # From the article linked by Frank, 4:19 AM:
The British diplomats “walking out” there is an indication of significant Jewish control of, pressure on, influence over, whatever, the British Foreign Office or at least that branch of it concerned with Palestine. They can disagree vehemently, can respond so as to register their disagreement, their dislike, can vote accordingly, whatever, but “walking out” is an extraordinary gesture in the diplomatic world. It’s something that diplomats representing Israel might appropriately do, for example, but not ones representing the U.K. The U.K. isn’t Israel, it’s a different country, sympathetic toward Israel perhaps, but not Israel. Those men who walked out were in effect behaving as if the U.K. and Israel were the same country. In behaving as though they were Israelis they weren’t making sense and were in effect playing the role of a Jewish extended phenotype. Only lurking Jewish influence behind the scenes of the British government/diplomatic service could bring that about. The signs that lurking Jewish influence is a major factor in opening borders and keeping anyone from closing them are legion. Once you see an unmistakable sign of that nature you draw your conclusions without having to have documentation before you (the sort of thing Dan Dare insists on) of exactly which man/men in precisely which way/ways transmitted the actual “real-time” influence from Jewish money men behind the scenes to these British diplomats or to men such as The Chameleon who, functioning as an extended phenotype, suddenly, unexpectedly, irrationally and wholly unnaturally started voicing support for race-replacement of his own race/historic nation. Those behind-the-scenes pathways along which this control or heavy influence is transmitted can be worked out: you don’t have to have all of them explicitly mapped out on paper to see the unmistakable signs of the control itself being exerted in the first place. Or maybe the Britishers involved in walking out of the UN were themselves Jewish, in which case less need for behind the scenes calling of the shots by unseen Jewish money men: as Jews they’re already “primed and ready to go.” This is the sort of thing, absolutely unmistakable signs like this however subtle or glaring, that allow one to surmise with certainty that Jewish control or at least very strong influence is afoot in regard to some aspect of things without having explicit documentation before one. Exactly which aspects of things are controlled or strongly influenced becomes clear as one keeps mental track of patterns of these kinds of unmistakable signs. Another way to be certain of Jewish control or very strong influence, of course, is to compile actual explicit documentary evidence of it (the sort of thing Dan Dare demands) such as can be found in Kevin MacDonald’s books and articles (books and articles of superb scholarship that nevertheless get dismissed as “anti-Semitism” by the Jews, predictably enough — Jews dismiss explicit documentary evidence, proof positive on paper, staring them directly in the face, as “anti-Semitism” because Jews aren’t in this game to concede anything and they don’t intend to — and most of all, they’re very brazen: when caught, they’re masters at “brazening it out”). But in the absence of such explicit documented proofs there are unmistakable signs galore to go by. You don’t need explicit proof to connect the dots with certainty, though of course it’s nice to know explicit proof is out there. Other commonsense ways to tell include the certitude, where applicable, of general principles that do not have exceptions, such as one Desmond once referred to indirectly here, racial/national populations don’t erase themselves from existence willingly by doing things like importing their racial-replacement populations en masse and at the same time forbidding themselves to make so much as a peep of protest against it. That doesn’t happen. If it happens, someone else is doing it to them. There are no exceptions. At one point a couple or three years ago I decided to post a comment here whenever I saw a report of a Jew or Jews aggressively supporting race-replacement of Eurochristians — Jewish organizations galore doing it openly, various individual European rabbis standing up to make impassioned calls for the thwarting of any limitation whatsoever on immigration of Moslems or Sub-Saharans into Europe, citing Auschwitz, etc., etc., etc. You saw it continually of course, everywhere you looked, and posting it each time I saw it was to be a response to outrageous denials, by Jews and by others, of prominent Jewish support of race-replacement genocide: sort of, “OK, if you deny it I’ll simply post the umpteen trillion real-time examples of it I see around me every microsecond which you somehow manage to mentally ignore. Let’s see you deny it when it’s staring you in the face.” I stopped shortly after starting because there were negative reactions here to my “excessive preoccupation with Jews” and furthermore it’s all been done in Kevin MacDonald’s very impressive scholarship — if they deny Kevin MacDonald they’ll deny anything. You can’t pry open someone’s eyes or mind who wants both sealed shut. 126
Posted by Fred Scrooby on October 04, 2009, 10:01 AM | # About Ahmadinejad coming from a Jewish family, I’m sure the “experts on Iranian Jewish names” quoted in the article know what they’re talking about, but I would have guessed Sabourjian was an Armenian name, making the family’s religious conversion one from Christian to Moslem, not Jewish to Moslem. Also, the article says his father’s trade was listed as “blacksmith.” Jews in the Pale of Settlement all had trades (butcher, tailor, bootmaker, milliner, tanner, bookbinder, etc.) but blacksmith? I strongly doubt that trade can be found among Jews. Finally, how likely is it that Ahmadinejad would hold up his identity papers for a camera close-up shot if it would reveal to the world, at a single glance, a secret he wanted kept, namely that he was Jewish until age four? Highly unlikely. Armenian Christian until age four might fly politically in today’s Revolutionary Iran of the Mullahs, but not the other. Not politically. 127
Posted by Fred Scrooby on October 04, 2009, 10:06 AM | # If you take the R out of Sabourjian, that was exactly, letter-for-letter, the last name of an Armenian who went to my high school in New York City. 128
Posted by Frank on October 04, 2009, 10:20 PM | # Athens & Jerusalem by Ilana Mercer (Israel wants to be part of the West… if the West is willing to obey Israel…) 129
Posted by Frank on October 04, 2009, 10:22 PM | #
Very interesting! 130
Posted by SM on October 04, 2009, 11:31 PM | # Mahmoud-Ahmadinejad-revealed-to-have-Jewish-past.
— ———- Unfortunately, it was probably of their own without any immediate jewish handlers. (I believe Britain has fewer acutely influential jews than america). The anglo american elites have long since embraced a moral high ground presumption regarding jewish questions. These types don’t need to be “handled” by shadowy figures. If pols were afraid of pissing anyone off, it would be the people at large. The people’s morality being shaped by womanly etiquette and jewish media. 131
Posted by Frank on October 06, 2009, 11:11 AM | # Ahmadinejad has no Jewish roots
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Posted by h.kalervo on September 10, 2009, 02:42 PM | #
Jewish dominance has, statistically, little to do with their supposed high intelligence. I say supposed, because we don’t actually have good data on them. We don’t even know how many there are in the States. For all we actually know, there could be fifty million there.