Jewish-only policy on Israeli flights?

Posted by Ruslan Tokhchukov on June 16, 2006, 12:53 AM | #

So, what was the point of this post, “Svyatoslav Igorevich”? Do you want us to bash Israel for “apartheid” joining the unholy “pokhabno-pogromny” Livingstone/Tutu/Hamas types? Who’s side are you on? The reason why Europe is such a sewer is because back in the ‘70s its traitorous ruling elites sided with the Arabs and against Israel. In her eye-opening book “Eurabia” the awesome Israeli lady Bat Ye’or describes in great detail the treaty signed by the traitors giving Europe into total slavery to the Arabs, opening it to unlimited immigration. We now see the poisonous harvest. Before it is too late, Europe should repent, overthrow the traitorous elites, hug Israel’s knees and tearfully repent the 30 years of treason. Zionism and only Zionism can save Europe. Zionism and only Zionism will save the world.

Ruslan Tokhchukov, USA.

Posted by Guessedworker on June 16, 2006, 05:32 AM | #

Ruslan,

I accept that your position is sincere and, obviously, given your faith highly unusual.  But your assertion that Jews are a kind of mystical blessing for whatever population they live among begs one or two questions, to put it mildly.  For example, in that link you mention the industrial revolution in Britain, but that was a product of 18th century Conservative values, as was Empire.  We don’t have the Jews to thank for either.

The account is, of course, a matter of both debit and credit, and all discussion of the JQ is ultimately aimed at determining the balance.  For some of us, including me, there is altogether too much such discussion.  For most, probably, there should be no discussion at all.  For a very few there should be talk of little else.

But, Ruslan, I’ve never come across anyone who, it appears, takes position three, argues completely from a pro-Jewish perspective and is a Muslim!

Posted by James Bowery on June 16, 2006, 08:20 AM | #

Israelies are entirely within their human right of freedom of association to discriminate anywhere and at any time in who they let onto their flights and into their territory.  The problem is with anyone who does not support the right of freedom of association among others even if that means they may be excluded by those others—and among no group is this tendency to vilify those who would exclude them more vicious than among Jews.

Posted by Svyatoslav Igorevich on June 16, 2006, 01:52 PM | #

GW, truly, I don’t set out to emphasize the JQ as much as it must seem.  I agree that we could do with less discussion of the JQ; the irony is that the biggest discussions of the JQ seem to erupt in threads on other topics.

The difficulty for me is that I’m trying to report news I find relevant to us that isn’t reported by Amren or VDare.  That means a tendency to report on the JQ, as does the fact that my primary source is Stormfront’s News forum.  Maybe that’s the problem.

I didn’t see this topic as a source of much discussion, it’s simply a news blurb.  In fact, this article is interesting regardless of the pronouns involved; if Indonesians were similarly restricting flights I’d find it interesting and post it.

The corrolary is that Israel’s status as the world’s only “western” ethnostate makes it news, from our perspective.

Posted by Svyatoslav Igorevich on June 16, 2006, 01:57 PM | #

Maybe I should try a different tack, by formatting my posts differently.  I could roll them all into single posts.

Yes, i think I’ll do that from now on, roll articles of lesser significance into a single post.  That should serve to save front page space and deemphasize what needs deemphasizing without ignoring it altogether.

Posted by Andrew on June 16, 2006, 04:41 PM | #

You have a point there Svi, but the last time I flew to London, now days we have tendency to do our own profiling, I certainly do, and the next time when you fly, I bet every European does.
I suppose in the past it was something we did not need to do, but “Liberalism” has created its newest Monsters and if such a monster was never invented. We would go about our buisiness just as if nothing happened. 
But something did happen! That 4 tones of Gorilla with two heads in the kitchen is now visible.

Posted by Geoff Beck on June 16, 2006, 05:04 PM | #

...hug Israel’s knees

Well, Roosky, you got that one right. Europe and America are certainly at Isreal’s knees - getting pissed on.

Posted by Al Ross on June 16, 2006, 11:32 PM | #

Mildly amusing spoof-post by Ruslan, his adoption of a Muslim monicker being a deft touch.

Posted by Ruslan Tokhchukov on June 17, 2006, 04:54 AM | #

GW,

My “position three” as you put it, is not “the Jewish perspective”. There’s no such thing. I don’t stereotype Jews positively or negatively. What I am passionately devoted to is the Zionist cause championed by the best, the proudest, the bravest of the Jewish people in Israel. But many other Jews, especially in the West, are cowardly traitors to the Zionist cause. I want to be a Zionist not despite being a Muslim, but because I am a Muslim, for this is my way of screaming and raging over the most horrible abuse our faith had ever suffered. This is our Dark Age. I am screaming my own 95 theses, but so far, I have reached only a few Muslims. There are very few of us, Muslim Protestants, and, remarkably, the most heroic of us are women, such as Wafa Sultan and Nonnie Darwish. Nonnie’s father organized and trained “Palestinian” terrorists in the ‘50s, long before the Israeli “occupation”. His thugs alone had murdered 400 Israeli civilians and injured 900. He was eventually assassinated by Israel. And yet, Nonnie is fearlessly speaking out in defense of Israel and against the “Palestinian” terrorists! I especially identify with her, because my own unkle, Abdul-Hamid Tokhchukov, was a Nazi collaborator, the Nazi-appointed police chief of the Russian city of Kislovodsk where 2,000 Jews were murdered in 1942. This is a source of great shame for me, but not the sole reason why I’ve embraced Zionism. It was the result of a life-long journey. Having lived East and West, through my life experiences and relentless studies, I have arrived to the conclusion that Zionism is the most righteous ideology in the entire history. It is truly light unto nations. Without it, one is blind, and his soul is empty. “This world will be liberated through our liberty”, declared the Zionist Manifesto of 1897, also known as Basel Program. It is indelible stain on the collective conscience of the English people that they have betrayed Zionism after initially pretending to embrace it. This treason marked the start of the most disgraceful century in the English people’s history, one that saw them become the most traitorous people in history (Zionists, Kurds, Russian Tsar betrayed, Jewish refugees turned back into the Nazis’ hands, Munich AND Yalta where you betrayed friends by millions, by entire countries, Kurds again, and again, day-to-day treason against Israel to this day). And what did you get for all this disgrace? The original treason against the Zionists, the one that touched off the whole avalanche, was motivated by “the interests of the Empire”. And where is your Empire? All this shit-dipping for nothing. You tried to buy “peace in your time” by betraying the only democracy of Eastern Europe, and the very next year you were in the very worst war in history. Now, you relentlessly betray the only democracy of the Middle East, hoping to buy safety at Israel’s expense, and what do you get instead of 30 pieces of silver? 7/7, and this is only the beginning. And out of all places, they hit Londonistan run by Livingstone, the lowliest appeaser even by English standards. Somewhere during this century, between all those treasons and disasters, the English people have lost their soul. They have degenerated into a population of sociopaths, soulless and spiritless, a zombie of a nation. To an outsider like myself, you look very much like the Romans in the 4th century, at the advanced stage of decay, and right before their catastrophical end. Just like them, your are right there on the brink. It is hard to believe that just a few centuries ago, you were a relatively decent people who, together with the Dutch, led Europe out of the Dark Age. And yes, that happened after first the Tudors, then Cromwell let the Jews back in. And what happened right after the thug of a King Edward I expelled the Jews? Immediatelly, plague after plague, pestilence after pestilence: the start of the 250-year war with Scotland, the 100-year’s War that ended with total defeat, the Wot Tyler rebellion, the Black Plague that committed genocide of half of the English population. But the most awe-inspiring was the War of the Roses: Edward I’s family broke into two “teams” and butchered each other for 30 years, committing total self-genocide! During those 30 years, many a Leicester or York lamented that they were “cutting their own throat”, and “shedding their own blood”, and continued cutting! Continued shedding! Continued gutting, disemboweling, mutilating, stabbing, piercing, shredding! Could not stop! I see a higher hand in this. Do you think God has different rules for you than the Egyptian Pharaohs or Romans? Finally, when the God-accursed dynasty has totally exterminated itself, the obscure Tudors moved onto the vacant throne and began gradually letting Jews back in. Then, and only then, things started looking up for the English.
Now, you are at your lowest point again, not materially, but spiritually you are very low, Plantagenet low, only this time, I doubt you will ever claw your way back up again. With this degree of degeneration, a civilization is usually not viable, like in the Romans’ case. I am pushing you the Zionism medicine here, the same medicine you threw into mud a century ago, but you are probably beyond medical help. When God gives a nation a mission to be the protector of His chosen people, and the nation tramples this mission under its feet, God does not suffer this nation easily. God has sent his chosen people into this world without defenses as a trial for other nations. Those nations who were kind to the Jews prospered, but those wicked nations who wronged the Jews went down to hell. And after each horrible massacre, the Jews had arisen from the ashes like Phoenix, not only alive, but stronger than before. Do I believe in miracles? Of course I do. The entire history of the Jewish people is God’s miracle. This is why I am a Zionist. Now, for the first time in 2,000 years, the Jews are no longer defenseless. The State of Israel has arisen on the tiny part of Solomon’s Kingdom, but far stronger than Solomon’s Kingdom. This means the trial is over, and the time of reconing is fast approaching, when all the enemies of Israel will suffer the ultimate punishment. And I want to be on the right side. This is why I am a Zionist.

Ruslan Tokhchukov, USA.

Posted by Kulturkampf on June 17, 2006, 06:38 AM | #

Either this is indeed an exquisite spoof or the gentleman is a wacko extraordinaire. Either way, I think its author should be informed that the English, if we rediscover our common sense, will be acting in their best interests by staying well clear of the Semitic feud in the Middle East.  Best peddle your millenarian twaddle elsewhere.

Posted by Al Ross on June 17, 2006, 07:11 AM | #

It is a sad indictment of the USA’s education system that people like Ruslan believe in 3000 year-old superstitions created by a morally autistic tribe of parasitic and predatory mammothrepts.

Posted by Nio Zilda on June 17, 2006, 07:45 AM | #

The black death was divine punishment on England for expelling the Jews? It also killed half the population of Norway, you know. Yahweh obviously doesn’t care about collateral damage.

Posted by XYZ on June 17, 2006, 08:48 AM | #

Actually, I read where the black death in Europe was initiated by Mongols catapulting plague-ridden corpses into cities they were attacking.

Where’s my reparations check?  Hello, Ulan Bator…..

Posted by Andrew on June 18, 2006, 02:35 AM | #

Um, My take on Solomon’s kingdom, was far removed from biblical encounters as you can get, Moslems love him, so then you have to ask a question why he is an Idol to their Zionist Islam brothers; Ill give you a small guess, and it has something to do with Loot, Harems, self fluctuating ego, and Polygamy; Yes the mother of all polygamists.
Perhaps the Zionist movement actually predates King Solomon, and goes back to the Nephilim. And to add salt to the wound, I read Jesus ordered the temple to be demolished; now we are getting to the meat of the matter. So Islam being a Left wing Jewish conspiracy has a bit more grunt behind it .

I wonder if they can turn their head in a 6400 mills (180 degrees) without squinting an eye lid?

Posted by Andrew on June 18, 2006, 02:51 AM | #

Here is some evidence documented, any questions speak to the boss.
http://www.crystalinks.com/solomonstemple.html

http://www.crystalinks.com/zion.html

Posted by Sigurd on June 18, 2006, 04:42 AM | #

The idea that we have to side in any meaningful way with either Zionists or Arabs is part of a false “either or” argument.  We need not pick a side.  We understand the Arab’s opposition to the Zionists, because the Zionists seek to enslave us in the same way they seek to enslave the Arab (albeit by necessarily more sophisticated means), and so we support Arab opposition to Zionism because it weakens the power of a common enemy. 

Likewise, we oppose all our nations’ prodigal support of the Jewish State. 

This we can now achieve safely enough simply by wondering aloud how we benefit from sending billions of dollars to Israel. You see, the great liability of Israel for the Jewish people is that ostensibly it’s a normal nation and so we are free to treat it as such.  No longer do we have to wonder about the special case of the homeless Jews and their sob story.  We may now distinguish, whether disingenuously or not, between the “Jewish people” and Israel.

On the other hand, the wars we fight on Israel’s behalf we can question on their own terms.  The fact that the real reason for them is unmentionable makes this easy.  With no mentionable reason, they are pointless.  On this subject, our arguments needn’t get deeper than this. “We oppose the war because it is pointless and immoral.  So let’s bring home the troops.”

Still, we have no delusions about Islam.  It desires essentially the same thing that Zionism desires, namely, as far as we are concerned, categorical conquest of the West.  The only significant difference is that Zionists have essentially succeeded in this goal, however, because their malevolence is now understood worldwide, their power now declines.

Islam also has the difficulty/advantage (and charm) of seeking its conquest in relatively naked, open and proud terms, not in the subterranean manner that Zionism has sought it. Obviously we oppose their third world immigration into our country, an immigration made possible by Jewish manipulation.  Naturally we support any Jewish group interested in curbing any kind of undesirable immigration into the West if such a group really exists.  But in both cases, both tribes of people may be, at best, the most temporary and least trustworthy allies.  Geographic separation is desirable in both cases.

In any case, I think it is likely that the Jews would sooner hug the knees of the Messiah then the West will, any time soon, hug the knees of Zionism.  The hugging it has done so far has rather been like a sleeping person holding onto a pillow.  As he awakes to find it a sack of vipers he does otherwise.  That a Jew would even consider presenting it in these terms gives you insight into how dearly they would regard an “alliance” with us and how they might even believe now they can openly bully us.

Posted by Sigurd on June 18, 2006, 04:59 AM | #

In other words, Zionism is also in decline.  The light of the sun is killing it.  It has nothing to offer us.

Posted by Al Ross on June 18, 2006, 06:27 AM | #

Yahweh’s godly brigands enjoy the scriptural authority of Exodus 23.27, in which the Jew-God promises each and every one of the pests that He “will destroy every people to whom thou shalt come”.

Seems fairly unambiguous.

Posted by JB on June 19, 2006, 03:49 AM | #

Ruslan:

In her eye-opening book “Eurabia” the awesome Israeli lady Bat Ye’or describes in great detail the treaty signed by the traitors giving Europe into total slavery to the Arabs, opening it to unlimited immigration.

here’s something even more eye-opening:

Jewish Involvement in Shaping American Immigration Policy, 1881-1965: A Historical Review

http://www.csulb.edu/~kmacd/books-immigration.html

Ruslan:

Before it is too late, Europe should repent, overthrow the traitorous elites, hug Israel’s knees and tearfully repent the 30 years of treason. Zionism and only Zionism can save Europe. Zionism and only Zionism will save the world.

I see, we should be loyal to jews instead of to our race. And we shouldn’t forget to thank jews for having the privilege of having our daughters and sisters taken to Israel to be sex slaves for our jewish masters.

Ruslan:

Those nations who were kind to the Jews prospered

like the United States, right ? the country that supports Israel like no other and was mentally demolished by the mass media and is now being biologically destroyed by mass immigration.

go die for Israel you obscene fool. We have more than enough overtheistic judeocratic race traitors to get rid of.