Korean cartoonist’s perspective on Japan

Posted by slinker, sailer, toldya, sly on March 12, 2006, 11:09 AM | #

Perhaps some anecdotal evidence for J Richards to assert that Asians admire more gracile, (North) European phenotypes?  Perhaps, although it doesn’t alter mating patterns in the USA, and perhaps helps to explain Asian female attraction to white men.

Note how, consistent with the relative nature of ethnic interests, demographically secure Asians in Asia, whose history has been most negatively influenced by their Asian neighbors have these attitudes; yet in the “west”, we see:
http://www.colorq.org/PetSins/article.asp?y=2003&m=9&x=9_7
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PASC/
http://www.aamovement.net/narratives/panasian2.html

Posted by slinker, sailer, toldya, sly on March 12, 2006, 11:16 AM | #

As the “clash of civilizations” progresses, Stoddard may turn out to be correct:
http://www.churchoftrueisrael.com/stoddard/rtc_1-02.html

Note the references to “Asian comity” and “pan-Mongolism” and Burmese comments on “yellow peril.”

Conflicts are moving inexorably from regional to global, and it would be wishful thinking to believe that internal Asian hostilies will last forever, particularly IF the west becomes resurgent and is transformed into a robust competitor to Asiatic aspirations for future domination of world politics.

Posted by Steve Edwards on March 12, 2006, 11:16 AM | #

The other point I picked up was the hilarious frame of the hapless African man being chased down the street by a mob of sex-crazed Japanese girls. What will the Koreans think of next?

Posted by Phil Peterson on March 12, 2006, 11:35 AM | #

Actually there is some truth in these cartoons. It is actually a fact that Japanese women can be remarkably blunt about wanting to have sex. An Irish friend of mine at Uni who was already gripped by “Yellow fever”, had a swell time with many Japanese female students who couldn’t get enough of him. The same guy wouldn’t get a second glance from even the most average looking white girls.

But the truth is that it isn’t only Japanese girls that hanker after white boys. The same applies to other East Asian females too. The difference, I think, is that the Japanese girls tend to be more “blunt” about these things. But a white boyfriend is the coveted prize for all of them. Here is a rather silly and juvenile video about that.

Posted by Steve Edwards on March 12, 2006, 11:51 AM | #

It does appear that Euro men and Asian women tend to cohabit disproportionately. I wonder what Asian men tend to think of this?

Posted by Phil on March 12, 2006, 11:57 AM | #

I’ve never understood what attracts people to Asian women. I suppose some men are predisposed to it and others aren’t.

Posted by Phil on March 12, 2006, 12:03 PM | #

I wonder what Asian men tend to think of this?

Here is an old thread about that on GNXP.

Posted by Steve Edwards on March 12, 2006, 01:52 PM | #

I have tended to find Slavs quite attractive (indeed an old long-term girlfriend was from the former FRY). I don’t really know why. They just are.

However, and other MR’ers may disagree, I don’t mind East Asians and many SE Asians, either. Contra Phil, this isn’t because of any “pre-disposition”, but partly because I’d been exposed to the culture from a very young age. And I think they do look very feminine.

Of course, if I was John Ray, I’d conclude from personal experience (which may, or may not, have implications for myself down the track) that my entire country should forcibly yield to the “enlightened” position of having its dominant ethny overthrown on a whim - simply because it can be done. But I guess I’m not John Ray.

Posted by Phil Peterson on March 12, 2006, 02:25 PM | #

Fred,

No that’s not true. Black men prize white women everywhere. And Black women are usually considered (across all races) to be the least attractive of all women. However, Black men cannot always get white women so they must do with black women.

Similarly, East Asian women have clearly shown that they prefer white men more than East Asian men but since not all of them can get white men, they must do with East Asian men. And as for sub-cons, their preference for the more Caucasian appearance indicates that that’s what they find most attractive even though that appearance is “rarer” in those populations compared to the norm.

Historically, races did not mix as much as they are doing now because mass transport did not exist. What is occuring now is obviously aided by technology. What was once only possible with massive raids by alien armies (think of the Huns during the late Roman period) is now accomplished much more easily by poor immigration laws and cheap travel.

I don’t mind East Asians and many SE Asians, either. Contra Phil, this isn’t because of any “pre-disposition”, but partly because I’d been exposed to the culture from a very young age. And I think they do look very feminine.

Well, I think attraction is instinctive. So for example, I might find Japanese culture intriguing and in some ways very attarctive but I never found Japanese women attractive because I’ve never had a “thing” for those sorts of physical features.

Posted by Matra on March 12, 2006, 02:29 PM | #

I’ve never understood what attracts people to Asian women. I suppose some men are predisposed to it and others aren’t.

I’ve asked two Anglo-Saxon Canadian friends that question. One is married to an Asian the other goes out exclusively with Chinese. They say Asian women are more feminine than Canadian women though, frankly, it would be hard to be less feminine as even the average Canadian housewife has feminist values. Apparently Asian women are not obsessed with careers, they don’t watch Oprah, and are more willing to be traditional wives. I told one of these friends to try Ukrainians before settling for Asians! But in addition to their traditional values I think a lot of Western men also find Asian women to be physically more attractive than whites. I’ve never understood that.

Posted by Steve Edwards on March 12, 2006, 02:37 PM | #

I must confess that part (but by no means the crucial) reason I find Asians attractive is precisely because they have not been brainwashed by cultural marxism (you will not find a single university graduate anywhere in the West who has not been affected by marxist brainwashing to some degree - and it’s clear that women have been the primary targets of said propaganda), and they are quite happy with the notion that men and women are different.

The GNXP thread linked earlier says a lot about what really happens when a young man or woman gets an “education” - they are subject to what is essentially imported Soviet propaganda. It’s truly disgusting, it leads directly to alienation between men and women, and I dare say that that was the precise motivation from the beginning.

Posted by JB on March 12, 2006, 02:38 PM | #

Fred Scrooby:

People will say it can’t be answered objectively because “whites have imposed their norms on the world” (Oriental women now seek eye-rounding cosmetic surgery and so on) but I’d think it can still be answered.

some africans - in Africa - bleach their skin :

http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0204,chisholm,31703,1.html

In a country where the people are dark and one’s heritage is one’s pride, Ghanaians are always happy to share a bit of their cultural history. Yet many are quietly continuing a chapter by fading to white. Locked in a practice that has gone on since the Europeans arrived in the 1500s, Ghanaians have been trying to lighten their skin, using various home recipes and commercial creams. “[Skin bleaching has] been going on for a long time, actually,” says tour guide Nii Kpakpo Alloeei-Cofie. “I must say it began from when we had the British ruling over us.”

These creams have made big news across Africa in recent years. Last May, Kenya banned the sale of many skin-bleaching products, a move followed by Uganda in August. The year before, skin specialists in Senegal also called for a ban. None of this has slowed the demand, in Africa or elsewhere. In November, a new cream called Solaquin hit the market.

Ghanaian officials have also been trying—without success—to ban bleaching products, while mounting public service campaigns about the harmful effects, including skin disease, that can come with stripping your natural pigmentation. The administration is helped by a small, determined group of African nationalists who are very vocal about the cultural regression of bleaching. They stand against the growing community of those seeking increased self-esteem in a lighter, brighter self.

Posted by Phil Peterson on March 12, 2006, 02:40 PM | #

Matra,

I think the bit about greater femininity has a ring of truth to it.

But I’ve met Asian girls who grew up in America and Canada and they are indistinguishable in their attitudes from white American or Canadian women. 

So I think the bit about them being more feminine is more relevant if one is talking about first generation immigrants.

Posted by Phil Peterson on March 12, 2006, 02:44 PM | #

I must confess that part (but by no means the crucial) reason I find Asians attractive is precisely because they have not been brainwashed by cultural marxism (you will not find a single university graduate anywhere in the West who has not been affected by marxist brainwashing to some degree - and it’s clear that women have been the primary targets of said propaganda), and they are quite happy with the notion that men and women are different.

This changes after the first generation, though. If you look at second or third generation immigrants, they absorb CM gleefully just like everyone else.

Posted by Steve Edwards on March 12, 2006, 02:51 PM | #

I think you are right about that. They get to everyone in the end.

Posted by Mark Richardson on March 12, 2006, 06:35 PM | #

Well, be careful lapping up too much attention from Chinese girls in China.

In February a Victorian man lost his life in a knife attack in China.

The Herald Sun doesn’t keep its stories available to the public for long, so here is an excerpt:

An aspiring Victorian rock star was killed in China while trying to help a mate in an attack witnesses claim was racially motivated.

Talented singer and guitarist Richard Gribble ... died from stab wounds early on Saturday morning after an attack outside a bar in Fuzhou, where his band had played a gig hours earlier.

Witnesses said up to five men attacked Mr Gribble, his bandmates ... and other tourists, after blocking the path of their taxi.

The men then allegedly beat one of Mr Gribble’s travelling companions before he intervened and was fatally stabbed.

It is believed the alleged attackers were angry that the Westerners were getting attention from local females.”

Posted by Svyatoslav Igorevich on March 12, 2006, 09:58 PM | #

I think the “exotic” factor plays heavily into miscegenation-urges.  Exotic women can be both attractive and alien, and so inspire lust but not empathy.  So, I think that aliens will tend to attract a certain sort of male, perhaps one less interested in relationship and more interested in sex.

The underlying nature-aspect would be “travel to strange, faraway lands, conquer their men, sow oats with their exotic women, and move on to the next strange, faraway land,” that sort of thing.

Posted by Kane on March 22, 2006, 09:40 PM | #

brawl in China’s eastern city of Fuzhou in which an aspiring Australian musician was killed appeared to have resulted from an argument between his friend and a Chinese woman, a Chinese official said yesterday.

The alleged killer appeared to be Taiwanese, police said.

Richard Gribble, 23, died of a stab wound after he and two friends were attacked by at least five people late on Feb. 4, according to Australian media reports and an official from the Fuzhou Municipal Foreign Affairs Office.

Early reports saying the attack was racially motivated appeared to be untrue, said the official, who, as is typical with Chinese bureaucrats, identified himself only by his surname, Chen.

Police spokesmen in Fuzhou refused to comment, saying they could not release information about an ongoing investigation.

That evening, Gribble and his rock band had played a show at a bar in a district of the coastal city frequented by foreigners. Gribble and his two bandmates later joined an American friend, who was drinking and playing dice with a Chinese woman and her Taiwanese boyfriend, Chen said.

At some point, one of Gribble’s friends, identified as Nick, made comments perceived as insulting by the woman, identified only as “Ms. Shi,” after losing to her at dice, Chen said.

Angered, Shi called on others to help and as Gribble and his two friends were leaving, the group blocked their path and attacked Nick, Chen said.

Gribble apparently attempted to intervene and was stabbed by the woman’s boyfriend, identified only by his surname, Liu, the official said.

He died shortly afterward in a hospital, Chen said.

Chen said his office was informed of the case on Sunday. Four people have been taken into custody over the attack, which remains under investigation, he said. Gribble’s parents arrived in Fuzhou on Wednesday to claim the body, Chen said.

Australian media said Gribble was a resident of Talbot in the southern state of Victoria, and arrived in Fuzhou in mid-2004 to join his father who was working in a local university.
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Posted by Lisa on March 24, 2006, 06:23 PM | #

It was my brother Richard who was killed in China in February and it is still taking time to sink in that he is really gone. But his death could just as likely happened anywhere in Australia as it did in China or anywhere else in the world. The bottom line is that he was saving a mate, which he managed to achieve even though he lost his own in the process. It is that act of looking out for others no matter what the costs that he passes on to his family and friends. He stood up to protect his friend the same why his older sisters had stood up for him growning up. For all of those who are young and into partying becare of where you are and who you are with, our media is always full of tragic stories of lives being lost in risky situations.

Posted by Mark Richardson on March 24, 2006, 06:51 PM | #

Lisa, my sympathies for the loss of your brother. I do admire his actions in stepping forward to save a mate.