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London New Right: Imperium
Posted by Søren Renner on Wednesday, October 27, 2010 at 10:05 AM in Comments:3
Posted by jimmy Marr on October 27, 2010, 05:05 PM | #
If Norman Lowell hadn’t attributed this quotation to Rudolph Steiner, who would have Guessed it? 4
Posted by Al Ross on October 28, 2010, 12:10 AM | # Justice for Palestine, in any meaningful sense, would require the return of the Israeli - settler Jews to Europe, America and other points of departure. What a thought. 5
Posted by Leon Haller on October 28, 2010, 06:10 AM | # I have not watched either this video, or the Webster ones. Maybe this weekend. Going just off the title, however, I cannot imagine how justice for Palestinians could possibly be any less of a British national interest. And on another note: does justice for Palestinians really require removal of Jews from Israel? To whom, precisely, does the territory of Israel belong? The descendants of excessively fecund Arab goat herders, or the people, most of whom now also were born in that territory, who created the modern nation, its cities, infrastructure, economic and communications networks, and prosperous farms, which have “made the desert bloom”? Putting the question another way: to whom does the USA belong - the descendants of the stone age primitives encountered by the white man in the 16th century, or the race whose ancestors founded and settled the modern nation, and built 99% of the ‘capital value’ of the country? The notion that pieces of Earth belong in perpetuity to the ethnies who happened to be residing on them when modern history (and property) began is logically and morally incoherent. Israel belongs as much to the Jews as to anyone else, with the possible exceptions of the Americans and the Germans, for obvious pecuniary reasons. 6
Posted by Leon Haller on October 28, 2010, 07:28 AM | # Perhaps you should be worrying more British women now converting to Islam!! As I wrote to the bastards (who’s betting my comment will never appear?): The problem is the insanity of having allowed ANY Muslims to immigrate to the White, Christian nation of Britain. The Muslims are pushy, aggressive and self-confident. Meanwhile, Christians have allowed themselves to be emasculated, and thus appear to be wimps - as many of them are (the atheists are even more pathetic). Christians are cowed as well as persecuted by Government; whites are even more forbidden (by Western-hating, race-treasonous, ‘liberal’ elites) to express healthy racial pride - in their own bloody country!! - and even British Union Jack patriotism is frowned upon. So who are the sexual rulers of Britain? Whom do some white women now find attractive, and worthy of emulation? The Muslims - made to appear comparatively powerful and properly masculine by our own “human rights” and “diversity” garbage! Un-bloody-believable! What would Henry V or Richard Lionheart think?! To stop this destructive trend, restore British honor and Anglican hegemony. And remove all Muslims!! 7
Posted by Leon Haller on October 28, 2010, 07:31 AM | # oops! Forgot to provide the link: What a pathetic country! Replace the ancient faith, and see what you get. 8
Posted by johnUK on October 28, 2010, 03:06 PM | # @Leon Haller Ancient faith LOL! British identity has always been power politics and material wealth so it is not surprising that degenerate political theology and movements originate from Britain like Liberalism and Communism and modern jihadism with the British created Muslim brotherhood in Egypt to counter nationalist regimes in the region from trading with the USSR and since the engineered war in Afghanistan have been using Islamic militants to fight in proxy wars against Christians in Bosnia, Nagorno-Karabakh against Armenians, Chechnya and other North Caucasus republics, Kosovo, the Crimea, Central Asia, Xinjing (China), Algeria and other regions rich in natural resources. I’m British so I should know. 9
Posted by johnUK on October 28, 2010, 05:00 PM | # I know you are strapped for cash but you couldn’t afford a microphone for the New Right conference? Also who did the camera work for the event 10
Posted by Jimmy Marr on October 28, 2010, 06:00 PM | # renneR, I like the Norman Lowell videos. Thanks for posting them. 11
Posted by cladrastis on October 28, 2010, 07:04 PM | # I think Lowell is correct about some things and wrong about other things. I certainly agree with the spirit of his IDEA as well as some of the mythic elements he incorporates into it, but his is not the only formulation (though it is perhaps the most well-known in the English speaking world). Having not read his book, I can critique (and this is intended to be constructive) only what he has written (on his website) and said in speeches. From a geopolitical standpoint, I think it is a huge mistake to include the territories in the Southern Hemisphere (Australia, Argentina & Uruguay, and esp. South Africa) in Imperium Europa. In the future there will be huge population transfers across the globe; we will not be immune from this process. Aleksandr Dugin is correct - the Chinese should be encouraged to expand southward through the Indonesian archipelago and into the Australian continent (for expand they WILL!). I’ve been to Australia, and I can tell you that as a fair and delightsome people we are not suited for it; it has some of the highest rates of skin cancer in the world, and everyone I knew wore sunscreen year-round (even down south in the Barrossa Valley). It is also the driest continent on Earth, and not suited for high population density. South Africa is a lost cause - the Boers should be encouraged to immigrate to depopulated towns in Central or Southern Europe (where they could maintain their language and culture). As for the Latins of Argentina, their mtDNA is mostly Native (~70% if memory serves me right), so they are really a very light-skinned mestizo population. Altogether, the total number of Europeans who would need to be relocated from the global South would be maybe 30-40 million (depending on the Latins). The real strategy will be securing the borders of the Northern Empire. On this side of the pond, our Manifest Destiny extends all the way to Panama. In the Old World, the goal should be a reconquista of the Turkic Republics (esp. Kazakhstan) and the “reAryanization” of Turkey. (they are begging to be part of Europe anyway). If this is really what we want (and I think it is what we need), then we will have to make concessions to the East Asians. Sure, it is all a long way off, but long-term planning is what distinguishes Europeans from most of the other peoples of our world. One thing I like about Lowell is that he thinks BIG. 12
Posted by cladrastis on October 28, 2010, 07:16 PM | # In related news:
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Posted by Anarcho Anglo on October 28, 2010, 07:32 PM | # I know you are strapped for cash but you couldn’t afford a microphone for the New Right conference? Also who did the camera work for the event I filmed the Webster, Bowden and Sunic talks, but one of Mr Lowell’s entourage recorded his. I’m not affiliated with the NR in any official capacity, so i’m not eligable to ask for cash. Donations for a mic, though, John, would be graciously received. AA 14
Posted by jimmy Marr on October 28, 2010, 08:21 PM | # renneR, A joint session with Cladrastis and Norman Lowell on MR Radio would be a noble undertaking. 15
Posted by Al Ross on October 28, 2010, 09:22 PM | # Leo Haller To compare American “Indians” with Arabs can be easily done by contrasting the degree of complexity prevalent in their respective written languages. a) Arabs - very complex written language b)American “Indians” - written language non-existent until the European transcribed the vocalising of the natives. The British Balfour Declaration which created that cancer of the Middle East, modern Israel, was signed in return for Jew - prompted, US help in the internecine insanity called World War I. So, historically, Britain might be seen to bear some responsibility for (and by extension an interest in), present events. Of course, a more sanguine view would be that the Balfour Declaration constituted a valiant attempt to make the UK judenfrei. Well it can’t hurt to hope. 16
Posted by Søren Renner on October 28, 2010, 09:27 PM | # In theory, your suggestion is good. In practice, it depends on the consent of the parties involved and I can only get two. 17
Posted by Leon Haller on October 29, 2010, 06:59 AM | # The real strategy will be securing the borders of the Northern Empire. On this side of the pond, our Manifest Destiny extends all the way to Panama. In the Old World, the goal should be a reconquista of the Turkic Republics (esp. Kazakhstan) and the “reAryanization” of Turkey. (they are begging to be part of Europe anyway). If this is really what we want (and I think it is what we need), then we will have to make concessions to the East Asians. (cladrastis) I have to see the videos, though many of us (I mean myself and acquaintances, as well as famous persons within the Global Movement, esp Guillaume Faye) have been thinking in geopolitical terms about our race for a very long time now. What do you mean re Panama? We most certainly do NOT want any closer ties with Mexico, or racial infiltration therefrom. We need to at least partially push Mexico out of our territory by deporting the 25 million illegals present in the USA right now. Who the hell is going to reconquer the Turkic countries (they really are not ‘republics’)? The aging European pansies, with their ever-declining (native) birthrates, and continuously shrinking militaries? What could you mean? These are not Europoid peoples, racially, civilizationally, or historically, anyway. They must be kept totally away from Europa. And “re-Aryanizing” Turkey? WTF???!! Turkey is demographically expanding, as well as rapidly Islamizing. Keeping Turkey OUT OF EUROPE, as well as the EU, is the primary racial preservationist task of our time, along with militarizing the US/Mexico border. 18
Posted by atilio on October 29, 2010, 12:50 PM | # Norman is a great thinker, and a marvelous leader. His Imperium magnus opus transcends present boundaries and elevates the white european rac/culture to another level, higher dimension. The problem does not lie with his Grand idea, the problem is getting there. To forge Norman’s cosmovision or Eurovision one needs a strong fuehrer, a fuerher to the power of ten of our previous fuerher. In our present contemporary condition, the european is floundering like a somnambulist in the dark . An acephalus body. Another point is for a great fuerher to emerge there must be a immanent yeast from which to shine the light. Unlike in the 30’s, today europe is a blending machine of rotten ,decadent, subhumans from the thirld world . These subhumans are mixing and blending with the indigenous population, thus degenerating the race that allegedely should produce the fuerher. Step by step the reconquista is long overdue, but time is playing against the european heartland. With unguarded frontiers and their hearthen being relentlessly flooded by dark subhumans we are in need of a fuerher muy pronto. There is no time to waste. Some pertinent questions. How will Imperium come about in the europe of the present ? Norman’s claim that Brussels should be overtaken by Imperiumists, is fine and well, but how is it going to come about ? Does anyone in his right mind thing that the stinking corpse of Social/talmudist/ democracy enshrined in Brussles will be removed by the ballot box ? Never. It can only be removed by bullets, and revolution. The liberal/leftist/marxist/zionist regime will never yield power without a srtuggle to the finish. If the second WW is any example, lessons should be learnt. With ballot box no minority ( the European is destined, unless a change in course takes place, to become submerged in a sea of minority in their midst ,condemning the european to become a ” minority” in his own homeland.) will obtain the reins and springs of power. I trust and wish I am totally mistaken in this outlook. 19
Posted by cladrastis on October 29, 2010, 06:00 PM | #
Yes, they should all be deported. What is the carrying capacity of Latin America or Kazakhstan in the event of a complete resource embargo (and in the event of periodic natural disasters)? Would such an event lead to mass migrations? Is the complete disregard of territorial integrity a casus belli? There are many ways to achieve geopolitical ends, esp. in a resource scarce world. Who will lead a reconquista? Perhaps whoever needs the resources. Perhaps the equivalent of religious fundamentalists (much like the Zionists). Perhaps, in the case of Latin America, some future version of eco-radicals. Your guess is as good as mine. Turkey is very important. If Colin Renfrew and Dienekes Pontikos are correct, it is the PIE Uremheit (I’m still undecided); if they are wrong, Turkey is still the origin of all West Eurasian civilization (and perhaps all civilization). I have a sneaking suspicion (though no direct evidence to confirm it) that even the Sumerians got their start by migrating down the Tigris from Eastern Anatolia (via Samarra). Yes, there is an East Asian component in the modern Turkish gene pool, but it is no greater than what is found in the Russian population. I won’t say too much more about it other than that the Turks should be encouraged to rediscover their identities (in more ways than one) as either Eastern Greeks or Hittites - and yes, I am talking partly about a complete language shift. Who cares who’s expanding now? It was not so very long ago that we Europeans were 30% of the global population (and rising). Panta rhei. 20
Posted by Søren Renner on October 29, 2010, 07:14 PM | # Perhaps this is the right moment to mention econational futurism. 22
Posted by Anonymous on October 30, 2010, 08:54 PM | # A superior version of The Heart of the World, with the correct aspect ratio: An approaching storm: 23
Posted by Leon Haller on October 31, 2010, 05:28 AM | # Turkey is very important. If Colin Renfrew and Dienekes Pontikos are correct, it is the PIE Uremheit (I’m still undecided); if they are wrong, Turkey is still the origin of all West Eurasian civilization (and perhaps all civilization). I have a sneaking suspicion (though no direct evidence to confirm it) that even the Sumerians got their start by migrating down the Tigris from Eastern Anatolia (via Samarra). Yes, there is an East Asian component in the modern Turkish gene pool, but it is no greater than what is found in the Russian population. I won’t say too much more about it other than that the Turks should be encouraged to rediscover their identities (in more ways than one) as either Eastern Greeks or Hittites - and yes, I am talking partly about a complete language shift. Who cares who’s expanding now? It was not so very long ago that we Europeans were 30% of the global population (and rising). Panta rhei. (Cladrastis)
Turkey is only important insofar as it is a Muslim country transforming itself from secularism to Islamism, it is populous, and there are assholes who want Turkey in the EU - meaning free migration of 70 million Turks within the territories of the EU member states. Turkey must be kept out of the EU, or the West is finished. And the Turks are not white (not like I am, anyway). 24
Posted by cladrastis on October 31, 2010, 12:05 PM | # What I am talking about is the mythic/historic narrative and its relationship to geopolitics, which, incidentally is exactly what Norman Lowell is talking about. What I am advocating is, in essence, what Mr. Lowell is advocating. Define whiteness for me and I suppose we can decide whether Armenians, Greeks, and Turks are “white”. Personally, I think it is a mistake to use such a vague and corrupted designation. We have a pretty good idea of who we are, who the core elements of our population are, and what their behavioral characteristics are. The movement of people should always be from the core to the periphery (as with the IE expansion), never the other way around (this was Rome’s mistake). I hope you understand my meaning.
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Posted by Silver on November 01, 2010, 02:24 PM | # What I am talking about is the mythic/historic narrative and its relationship to geopolitics, which, incidentally is exactly what Norman Lowell is talking about. What I am advocating is, in essence, what Mr. Lowell is advocating. The problem with “big thinkers” like Lowell (who is unimpressive; the others, like Hoffmeister, are worse—they’re laughable) is that their ideas can’t generate traction. To generate traction big ideas need to be combined with concrete, discernible, smaller-scale, local victories which enable supporters to enjoy a taste of success while leaving them wanting more. With traction one can work incrementally toward ultimate political objectives because his sights are firmly set on them. Without traction one finds supporters crestfallen after only minor setbacks (see BNP). Without traction it’s all a wild flight of fancy. Haller, I really don’t understand where you are headed with this, or what, precisely, is being advocated. Wild, idiotic, time-wasting fantasy, obviously. Your desperation is great enough, Haller, that you deign to engage what is clearly worthless piffle in the hope that something of substance may be uncovered. There isn’t. In addition to being desperate you are also arrogant beyond what it is wise to be. Though there is nothing to be gained from widening the circle of inclusion, there is much to be gained from widening the circle of cooperative exclusionists. It is strategically sound for balkanians to build bridges with racial similars in their own part of the world based on ancient, mythic, “pre-national” shared roots on the assumption that such shared identities can bridge the gaps created by modern national politicking (primarily wars). (Secularized Turks with their own anxieties about the progress of Islamization are certain candidates.) This is no more than what pan-Nordicists do. The opportunity for gain on your part arises from the implicit barrier this erects between your world and the rest, justifying an attitude of cooperation rather than confrontation. (The drawcard for denizens of those realms is a culture that celebrates their racial being rather than apologizes for it, as can only be in the case in—however unlikely and impractical it is—“pan-aryanism.”) 27
Posted by Leon Haller on November 02, 2010, 06:34 AM | # Your desperation is great enough, Haller, that you deign to engage what is clearly worthless piffle in the hope that something of substance may be uncovered. There isn’t. (Silver) I suspect many here would say the same thing to me in reference to you ... It is (characteristically) difficult to disentangle your argument(s) in the following: In addition to being desperate you are also arrogant beyond what it is wise to be. Though there is nothing to be gained from widening the circle of inclusion, there is much to be gained from widening the circle of cooperative exclusionists. That is, those who are nationalists of other races? It is strategically sound for balkanians to build bridges with racial similars in their own part of the world based on ancient, mythic, “pre-national” shared roots on the assumption that such shared identities can bridge the gaps created by modern national politicking (primarily wars). This is very confusing, though I think I can ascertain your point, which however is pure ideological posturing without any demonstrated understanding of the Balkans ethnicities, or the nature of modern nationalism. Moreover, to what does it refer? My criticism of Turkey vis a vis the EU? And what is meant by “strategically sound”? Strategy with regards to what - national preservation? conflict avoidance? There is no shared identity among Balkan peoples, esp wrt the Turks, who are remembered and appropriately hated for their Ottoman occupation. (Secularized Turks with their own anxieties about the progress of Islamization are certain candidates.) I do not oppose keeping lines of communication open with non-Islamist Turks, for obvious geopolitical reasons. But from my Occidentalist perspective, Turks are neither white nor Christian and do not belong in Europe. To admit them administratively, by allowing Turkey’s admission to the EU, would constitute an immediate and massive ethnocultural ‘diversification’ of Europe - precisely what we racial nationalists seek to avoid. The proper strategy is to alienate the Turkish people from Europeans, so as to make segregation between them easier to maintain. This is no more than what pan-Nordicists do. I am not well-informed about Nordicists. The opportunity for gain on your part arises from the implicit barrier this erects between your world and the rest, justifying an attitude of cooperation rather than confrontation. (The drawcard for denizens of those realms is a culture that celebrates their racial being rather than apologizes for it, as can only be in the case in—however unlikely and impractical it is—“pan-aryanism.”) (Silver) It is too difficult for me to try to make sense out of these last lines. Try to write more clearly, at least when addressing me. 28
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Posted by Guessedworker on October 27, 2010, 11:19 AM | #
Here is Martin Webster’s speech to the NR meeting, the subject ‘Justice for Palestinians is a vital British National Interest’
(Part 1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeKKzo9h-wA
(Part 2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjiOrm_fv3Y
(Part 3) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33DH5yrMzTo
(Part 4) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ckg1CpPyk0k