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Misology in America Part 2.1Misology in America Part 2.1 Why do most people believe that smoking is dangerous? Misology in America Part 2.1 Why do most people believe that smoking is dangerous? A 1995 Canadian study from the Respiratory Epidemiology Unit, Department of Epidemiology and Biostatistics, and Department of Sociology, McGill University, Montreal, Quebec, Canada, shows no association between asthma in children and environmental tobacco smoke. Doll, R. and Hill, A.B. (1950), “Smoking and carcinoma of the lung”, British Medical Journal, ii pp739-48 Posted by Robert Reis on Sunday, April 4, 2010 at 02:22 PM in Health Comments:2
Posted by Robert Reis on April 04, 2010, 03:41 PM | # Perhaps ATBOTL was not reading MR in 2007. http://majorityrights.com/index.php/weblog/comments/misology_in_america_part_2 3
Posted by sirrealpolitik on April 04, 2010, 08:00 PM | # ATBOTL cannot see the parallels between the big-media-driven, statist manipulation of our personal habits (smoking) and the statist misinformation that manipulates the herd into thinking, against all evidence, that mass immigration is good for us, that multiculturalism isn’t rather cultural napalm. 4
Posted by John on April 05, 2010, 04:36 AM | # Why are TPTB consistently against smoking? I believe it has nothing to do with health and might be more than a matter of merely wanting more nanny-state control. My own observation and experience indicates that tobacco is a powerful smart drug and that smokers are much better able to see through bullshit. 5
Posted by Abelard Lindsey on April 05, 2010, 03:50 PM | #
Because long term smoking causes COPD. COPD is a degenerative lung disease, almost exclusively (90%) caused by smoking, that usually results in a 10 year period of increasing morbidity and disability prior to death. It is a rather expensive disease to treat (pulmonary therapy being labor intensive and expensive), which is the reason why the states sued the tobacco companies in the 90’s. 6
Posted by Robert Reis on April 06, 2010, 12:30 AM | # After fifty years of intentionally generated hysteria and lies about smoking and passive smoking leading to lung cancer, the medical establishment invents a new acronym and says,“Trust us.” In 1993 my oldest and closest friend was diagnosed with lung cancer. He was a non-smoker. A mutual friend was an M.D. This person reviewed his records and told me that there was no treatment for his cancer. This did not stop the oncologists from putting him on an extremely painful course of chemotherapy. The mutual friend never told him that he was undergoing painful treatment for no good reason. I could not tell him because I was not wearing a white coat. An extended and extremely painful course of experimental chemotherapy was inflicted on an ex-wife by French oncologists. She was on so many painkillers, I cannot believe that she could have read the consent foms. In 2003, I was advised that I should have prostate surgery. I did a google on the recommended procedure. One out of 52 people who had that procedure died withing six months of the surgery. Almost half of the survivors became impotent. I declined the surgery. I have been told that the normal practice among oncologists was to randomly assign patients to experimental protocols while giving the patients the impression that they were receiving the state of the art treatment for their cancers. Research iatrogenic on the web. Diversity is our strength! 7
Posted by Fr. John on April 06, 2010, 06:54 AM | # When I first came across MR, I thought that here I had found a website that was dedicated to study of some of the pressing issues of the era. Over time, I saw that the same bigotry, anti-clericalism, and narrow-mindedness was as prevalent here, as most other sites, with one small exception. You folks have no power, and rarely, if ever, DO Anything, other than ‘talk amongst yourselves.’ As a cleric, the comments that start this specific post are mired in the thought that a non-believer has the same perceptions, and can consider objectively, the claims of Christianity, that someone who is indwelt by the Holy Spirit has. Wrong. Scripture (an objective, third-party source, FWIW) states that those who do NOT have the ‘pnevma,’ CANNOT UNDERSTAND ‘the things of the spirit.’ Not just that they are unable, they CANNOT. Such people’s minds are divinely CLOSED, and no amount of work, effort, or positive thinking will illumine them. Just for the record. Secondly, as far as smoking is concerned, I watched a parent suffocate on their own phlegm, due to congestive heart failure and emphysema, brought on by smoking. Besides that torturous death of a loved one, I also find it smelly, disgusting, prone to use by the lowest dregs of society, tied to alcohol and other drug use (that latter has been shown, ‘scientifically’ - but with the concept of misology, one wonders if even Science can be used as a Source?!), and I for one, am DAMN GLAD that I don’t have to smell, deal with, or in ANY OTHER WAY, condone that filthy habit. So, what is this article good for, other than confirming that I am correct, in my assessment of two well-thought out opinions? Like the old song… Huh! Absolutely Nothing. 8
Posted by sirrealpolitik on April 06, 2010, 03:01 PM | # Fr. John: Let me conflate two of your quotes. “Scripture (an objective, third-party source, FWIW) states that those who do NOT have the ‘pnevma,’ CANNOT UNDERSTAND ‘the things of the spirit.’” and “Such people’s minds are divinely CLOSED.” Might I suggest that you need to breathe more deeply of this pneuma, so that your own mind rises out of its narrow rut? The pneuma, breath, is merely the Greek Stoic materialist monism, the underlying substrate of the material universe. So your claim is like saying, people who don’t have mayonnaise on their sandwiches to make the lettuce, cheese, and bread cohere will not…have mayonnaise on their sandwiches to make their lettuce, cheese, and bread cohere, and such an A=A pronouncement only gets us…nowhere. And yet you ascribe this mystical special status to your pneuma-nauts, your special breathers. You use any excuse, it seems, even unconvincing ones, to foist upon yourself special ameliorated insight. Well your insight needs to be backed-up by an improved ability to communicate it, because you are entirely unconvincing. Your other coinage of circular logic goes something like this: Scripture says those who believe in scripture are insightful. I believe in the scripture, and therefore I believe that I am insightful, because it tells me that those who believe in it are so. That’s a pretty joo-ish way of thinking, might I add. p.s. No one cares - except you, apparently - that you’re a “cleric.” There’s that unverifiable special status again. Put away your props and impress me with what you DO, not what you claim you ARE. 9
Posted by ATBOTL on April 06, 2010, 03:49 PM | # It’s absolutely ludicrous to deny that smoking is bad for one’s health. The establishment says that the sky is blue and that 2+2=4. Are they lying about that too? There is a tendency for people who are obsessed with conspiracies in general to gravitate towards white nationalism, where they distract us from the real issue with nonsense like this. This has been going on in the “far right” in America since at least the 1950’s and is one of the things that keeps our movement from gaining influence. We have enough problems as it is without adding this kind of crank nonsense to our list of grievances. 10
Posted by Lurker on April 06, 2010, 08:15 PM | #
Surely there are better ways to ingest it than setting fire to it and breathing it in, along with all the other crap added to cigarettes? These days we’ve got patches and gum, if you want tobacco, isn’t that the way to go? It may well be smoking is not as bad as we are generally led to believe, however I simply refuse to buy the idea that breathing in the pollutants from a minature bonfire are going to do anyone any favours - especially long term. Holier than thou disclosure: I’ve never been a smoker. 11
Posted by Robert Reis on April 07, 2010, 12:13 AM | # If one googles ‘benefits of smoking cigarettes”...
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Posted by Lurker on April 07, 2010, 12:44 AM | # Nicotine may well be the good guy in all this and smoking is how most people get their nicotine. But wouldnt there be better ways of getting a nicotine intake - gum? 13
Posted by Robert Reis on April 07, 2010, 01:05 AM | # In my part of the world a carton of cigarettes costs 6 riyals; a weeks supply of nicotine gum costs 18 riyals. 14
Posted by Lurker on April 07, 2010, 08:50 AM | # Are we discussing the benefits of smoking nicotine or of nicotine itself? 15
Posted by Robert Reis on April 07, 2010, 09:42 AM | # http://thylacosmilus.blogspot.com/2010/04/victim-of-smoking-ban.html 16
Posted by Robert Reis on April 15, 2010, 10:39 AM | # Another Avenue to Prosecute Skeptics The proposal for the United Nations to accept “ecocide” as a fifth “crime against peace”, which could be tried at the International Criminal Court (ICC), is the brainchild of British lawyer-turned-campaigner Polly Higgins. The radical idea would have a profound effect on industries blamed for widespread damage to the environment like fossil fuels, mining, agriculture, chemicals and forestry. Supporters of a new ecocide law also believe it could be used to prosecute “climate deniers” who distort science and facts to discourage voters and politicians from taking action to tackle global warming and climate change. 17
Posted by Robert Reis on April 30, 2010, 11:31 PM | # Wasky scientist news http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2010/04/some-thoughts-from-the-original-earth-day.html http://co2insanity.com/2010/04/29/munchausen-by-proxy-and-global-warming/?sms_ss=digg 18
Posted by Robert Reis on May 16, 2010, 01:05 AM | # Great article about the lies doctors tell about HIV and AIDS. 19
Posted by Robert Reis on May 23, 2010, 12:59 AM | # Is curing cancer against the law? http://ezinearticles.com/?The-Cure-For-Cancer—-Hemp-Oil&id=2216524 20
Posted by Robert Reis on May 23, 2010, 10:37 AM | # Salazar, M., Carracedo, A., Salanueva, I., Hernández-Tiedra, S., Lorente, M., Egia, A., Vázquez, P., Blázquez, C., Torres, S., García, S., Nowak, J., Fimia, G., Piacentini, M., Cecconi, F., Pandolfi, P., González-Feria, L., Iovanna, J., Guzmán, M., Boya, P., & Velasco, G. (2009). Cannabinoid action induces autophagy-mediated cell death through stimulation of ER stress in human glioma cells Journal of Clinical Investigation link 21
Posted by Robert Reis on May 28, 2010, 01:37 PM | # Henry Bauer said on Big Science & commercial science publishing = corruption of peer review & science Robert Reis: 22
Posted by Robert Reis on June 21, 2010, 11:17 PM | # Good news! Senator Frank Lautenberg, the man who got smoking banned on airplanes, has cancer. 23
Posted by Robert Reis on June 21, 2010, 11:37 PM | # http://lung-cancer.emedtv.com/lung-cancer/lung-cancer-statistics.html Age at Diagnosis Lung cancer mainly occurs in older people. About 2 out of 3 people diagnosed with lung cancer are older than 65; fewer than 3% of all cases are found in people younger than 45. The average age at the time of diagnosis is about 71. Lung cancer mainly occurs in older people. About 2 out of 3 people diagnosed with lung cancer are older than 65; fewer than 3% of all cases are found in people younger than 45. The average age at the time of diagnosis is about 71. http://info.cancerresearchuk.org/cancerstats/types/lung/riskfactors/index.htm A lifelong male smoker has a cumulative risk of 15.9% for developing lung cancer by age 75. No kidding. The older you are, the more likely it is that you will die of something. 24
Posted by Robert Reis on March 19, 2011, 12:14 PM | # http://www.inmalafide.com/blog/2011/03/19/could-tobacco-be-good-for-you…/ http://majorityrights.com/index.php/weblog/comments/misology_in_america_part_2/ http://majorityrights.com/index.php/weblog/comments/misology_in_america_part_21/ 25
Posted by Robert Reis on April 09, 2012, 01:15 AM | # 26
Posted by Robert Reis on April 10, 2012, 04:05 AM | # http://voxday.blogspot.com/2012/04/intrinsic-unreliability-of-science.html A former researcher at Amgen Inc has found that many basic studies on cancer—a high proportion of them from university labs—are unreliable, with grim consequences for producing new medicines in the future. During a decade as head of global cancer research at Amgen, C. Glenn Begley identified 53 “landmark” publications—papers in top journals, from reputable labs—for his team to reproduce. Begley sought to double-check the findings before trying to build on them for drug development. Result: 47 of the 53 could not be replicated. He described his findings in a commentary piece published on Wednesday in the journal Nature.
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Posted by Lurker on April 10, 2012, 10:07 PM | # Surely not? Not after all we’ve imported all these cognitive elitists from Asia or outsourced work to them at home? Next entry: The History of White People Previous entry: Murder of Eugene Terreblanche, and other news stories |
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Posted by ATBOTL on April 04, 2010, 03:18 PM | #
What does this have to do with anything? The last thing we need is for pro-white politics to be associated with general crack pottery.