More Saint Stephenism on the way

Posted by daveg on February 24, 2008, 02:20 PM | #

That is incredible that they threw out the double jeopardy rule.

And I love the way they describe it as the “so called ‘double jeopardy’” rule.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on February 24, 2008, 02:37 PM | #

“the government repealed the so-called ‘double jeopardy’ law in 2005”  (—from the log entry)

Over here it’s written into the Constitution, therefore much harder to repeal, so the first Bush administration (for non-Americans who may not be too sure of the relationship, George “New World Order” Bush, the president who came right after Ronald Reagan, was the Tranzi father of the ape who’s fucking up the country right now) pioneered a way to get around it by simply re-trying the acquitted on “civil” (rather than “criminal”) charges carrying penalties almost as stiff.  (Idiotic, transparently dishonest stuff, such as for example where the criminal charge the accused was acquitted of was “murder,” the “civil” charge he’ll be charged with next is rigged up as “violating the murder victim’s civil rights by murdering him.”  That the feds can get away with this is unfricking believable.)  Obviously this new tactic is still double jeopardy and the fact it hasn’t been overturned in the courts including the Supreme Court if necessary is yet one more sign of the U.S.K’s degenerateness.  The Simi Valley defendants in the Rodney King case, O.J. Simpson, and a number of others have been subjected to double jeopardy in this insidious camouflaged version.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on February 24, 2008, 03:03 PM | #

Hollywood star Robert Blake is currently appealing a conviction under double jeopardy.  Accused of murdering his wife, he was acquitted by a jury, then was convicted on civil charges of “causing the death of his wife,” or something like that:  same charge, different words:  clearly double jeopardy and shouldn’t be allowed but is.  The punishment for the civil conviction in his case (unlike that of the Simi Valley defendants) was a fine, not jail time unless I’m mistaken, but the principle still holds:  the government is supposed to get one shot, and only one, at convicting someone of a crime.  It takes its best shot.  The defendant takes his best shot at defending himself.  If the government loses, that’s it:  it gets no more chances.  The guy walks free no matter what “new evidence” appears or what the Jews and other liberals think of the fact that he voted for David Duke last election.

Posted by Nux Gnomica on February 24, 2008, 03:10 PM | #

And the Metropolitan Police Serve, aided by LGC Forensics, the pioneers of Low Copy Number DNA manipulation, are promising an exciting new round of liberal self-flagellation, English guilt by association, and monkey shit-throwing of all kinds…

Liberals do not self-flagellate: they flagellate white non-liberals.

Two statistics I’d like to see:

1) The amount of money spent on the Lawrence circus.
2) The number of young black men who have died as a result of the money and manpower diverted to the Lawrence circus.

White victims obviously don’t count.

Posted by Nux Gnomica on February 24, 2008, 03:15 PM | #

Fred—you seriously strike me as a kook. Two big signs: length of posts and number of posts. Can you not hold back on the free association occasionally?

Posted by Fred Scrooby on February 24, 2008, 03:51 PM | #

“Fred—you seriously strike me as a kook.”  (—Nux)

I’m glad you included the word “seriously” in there, or I might’ve just disregarded that.  But with that word carefully included I know you’ve given this lots of thought, so I can’t just dismiss it, and your concerns will keep me occupied. 

Day and night.

As for my comments:  while I’m mulling things over, don’t read them.  In fact, that would make me feel better, as it sort of gives me the creeps to think people with inadequate personalities — people like you — are reading my stuff.  Read Silver’s or someone’s.  Keep your eyes off mine.

Posted by Riley on February 24, 2008, 07:10 PM | #

Nux:

Scrooby’s comment struck me as on-topic, reasonably cogent, and relevant. As usual.

Just my $0.02

Riley

Posted by Lurker on February 24, 2008, 08:35 PM | #

Nux - just skip Fred’s posts then.

Posted by torgrim on February 24, 2008, 08:51 PM | #

“-nux; Scrooby’s comment struck me as on-topic, resonably cogent,and relevant. As usual.”

I will second that.

My two Kroner’s worth.

Posted by WLindsayWheeler on February 24, 2008, 09:04 PM | #

I like the Scrooby comments—lay off the Scrooby.

Posted by melba peachtoast on February 24, 2008, 09:17 PM | #

Nux Gmonica, since Fred is Someone here and you are Nobody or close enough, perhaps you would better serve yourself by shutting the f*** up. Certainly your comments would not be missed. MR is not an underbridge and trolls are not appreciated here any more than the wallaby in the honeymoon suite in the old song.

Posted by daveg on February 25, 2008, 03:18 AM | #

What there are particular case that made repealing the DJ rule popular?  Can anyone give the history of that?

And while I don’t like what is going on in the US, the money issue is different than jail time.

Posted by Guessedworker on February 25, 2008, 06:10 AM | #

daveg,

The background is adequately given in this newspaper article.

Posted by onlooker on February 25, 2008, 06:22 AM | #

And while I don’t like what is going on in the US, the money issue is different than jail time.”—daveg

“The Simi Valley defendants in the Rodney King case, O.J. Simpson, and a number of others have been subjected to double jeopardy in this insidious camouflaged version.”—Fred Scrooby

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I’m not a lawyer, but:

What acually happened in the Simi Valley case, is the defendants were acquitted of CIMINAL charges at the State level. They were then subsequently charged at the FEDERAL level with the CRIME of violating the civil rights of Rodney King (thanks to then RINO President HW Bush acquiescing to the demands of the Left during the midst of the LA riot).

In a Civil action, the defendant is sued for ‘damages’ by the plaintiff. It is separate from the criminal aspect/phase of the case; hence, no double jeopardy.

Don’t confuse a Civil lawsuit with the “Federal crime of violating a citizen’s civil rights.” 

BTW—Rock on Scrooby!

Posted by Al Ross on February 25, 2008, 06:50 AM | #

Please step up your posting rate, Fred.

Posted by daveg on February 25, 2008, 10:21 AM | #

Yes, I have a lot more sympathy for the fed/state argument that the civil/criminal.

I can’t believe England threw out a 1000 year old tradition for that one case.

In the long run the power of the state is far more worrisome then the threat of people be falsely acquitted.

Posted by John on February 25, 2008, 01:12 PM | #

RINO? What’s that mean? The “Party of Lincoln” is and always was Red. http://www.etherzone.com/2008/stang020108.shtml Give .me a Dixiecrat http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3100752722910819372 any day!

Posted by Lurker on February 25, 2008, 01:55 PM | #

RINO - Republican In Name Only

Posted by Nux Gnomica on February 25, 2008, 02:28 PM | #

There’s an interesting link from the St Stephen page at the Times:

The ugly face of white prejudice, Anjana Ahuja

Jennifer Eberhardt, of Stanford University, has just completed what she calls “some of the most depressing work” of her career. Her research appears to show that many white Americans subconsciously associate black people with apes.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/anjana_ahuja/article3386239.ece

Two fifth columnists in collaboration? My comment, that it’s also the ugly face of Asian and Hispanic prejudice, didn’t get through.

A glutton for punishment writes:

Please step up your posting rate, Fred.

Is that possible? Then again, with your encouragement, he could break the fabled neurotic-narcissist-makes-three-consecutive-posts barrier. Don’t spoil it for me if he already has.

Fred writes:

In fact, that would make me feel better, as it sort of gives me the creeps to think people with inadequate personalities — people like you — are reading my stuff.

A glance and a “Christ, Scrooby’s flatulating again” were all your posts above got. I have doubts that your fan-club will understand this, but you will: Le secret d’ennuyer est celui de tout dire. You could give master-classes. You do, in fact.

Day and night.

Posted by onlooker on February 25, 2008, 03:40 PM | #

“Her research appears to show that many white Americans subconsciously associate black people with apes.”

Subconsciously? Hahahahahaha. How about consciously! Why do these silly people waste effort, time, and other peoples money only to discover the obvious?

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The Britons, too, are required to have their version of Rosa Parks, Emmit Till, St. Martin, etc. The PC thugs in England needed to fabricate a club in the form of Stephen Lawrence to constantly beat white people with….

Oh, speaking of Rosa Parks…remember when her Detroit home got broken into by a BLACK burglar and he robbed and beat her? Yes, a black burglar beat the “mother of the civil rights movement” in her own home. Imagine that! I wonder why we don’t hear more about this set of inconvenient facts?

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1355/is_n20_v86/ai_15833584

Posted by Fred Scrooby on February 25, 2008, 07:24 PM | #

“he could break the fabled neurotic-narcissist-makes-three-consecutive-posts barrier.”

WHAT???  Only THREE???  Hell I’m way more neurotic and narcissistic than that, Gongstar!!!  I do eight without breaking a sweat!!!  Where’ve you BEEN??? 

I guess I wasn’t giving Gong a chance to post.  (Didn’t know about the low serum testosterone levels and his need for an ultra-low-competition environment ...)  (But don’t they have injections for that, Gong?  Anyway, we all understand (... especially all the girls here, they’re not into making eunuch jokes about you behind your back, I’m sure they’re not ...) and I do apologize, I didn’t realize that by posting I kept taking away your chance to post.  I’ll lay off a while and let you catch up.  And if you can get on those injections you won’t feel so hurt or so ... well ... so impotent ..., so do look into that .... Just ask you doctor for “testosterone injections for hypogonadism,” he’ll get you fixed up in a jiffy!

(Thanks to all those comrades who kindly supported me, I was very touched.  And to Melba, sweetheart, a huge hug!  You’re a peach!)

Posted by Al Ross on February 25, 2008, 08:46 PM | #

I’m sure some of Fred’s admirers are familiar with the work (and quotations) of Monsieur Arouet.

Posted by silver on February 25, 2008, 11:48 PM | #

Fred—you seriously strike me as a kook. Two big signs: length of posts and number of posts.

It’s the nature of his posts that I would take him to task for.  Though his voluminous scribblings give the impression that he is some sort of de facto spokesman for the site, and this volume increases the odds of a doubting newcomer encountering one of his unhinged rants and confirming his very worst fears (that “race realists”/racialists are diabolical and insane loose-cannons).  It is shocking that he fails to grasp how counterproductive he can be.  If a mistake is worse than a crime, Fred Scrooby is living proof.

(Ironically, his posts on this topic—which you chose to criticize him for— have been restrained and to the point.)

Posted by wjg on February 26, 2008, 08:37 AM | #

Silver,

There are times to indulge newbies who are truly searching and give them a chance to learn the ropes.  There is also an element of discernment amongst the commentariat in seeing trolls who are here to distract any momentum a site as this may have in reaching searchers as well as equipping the vets who are trying to understand things better.  Once the troll alerts go off people like Fred are this site’s white blood cells; they attack and attempt to disable the infection.  Whether you realize it or not this is war not a tea party and the stakes are as high as Fred says.  A troll will immediately try to convince the infected that their pneumonia is simply a bad cold: “don’t be hysterical”, or “unhinged”, or don’t turn off “respectable” people who’s dainty sensibilities might be offended by the content here which is pornographic to the multicult.  It can’t be done - not perfectly at least.  These efforts take a team and MR has about as good a one as I’ve come across.

If I remember correctly weren’t you making the most outrageous, trollish statements a few months back?  GW’s indulgence of you helped motivate me to take a hiatus from visiting.  You’ve maybe since grown into a reasonable commenter which may vindicate GW’s persistence, but was not your initial “contribution” of the very sort you pin on Fred as being “counterproductive”?

For all the thought provoking posts by Bowery and GW and others, many (like Fred) have a great knack for bringing the conversation back to the basic elements we ultimately have to deal with.  The “keep it real” element is very productive in maintaining a diverse readership of awakened and awakening Aryans.

Posted by silver on February 26, 2008, 09:36 PM | #

wjg, I was an “anti” back then.  Not really a fully-fledged anti, though. I just felt I had to play the role of one.  Since then, you’ll search my posts in vain for a contribution remotely as counterproductive as those I hound Scrooby for.

Posted by John on February 27, 2008, 12:05 AM | #

“RINO - Republican In Name Only
Posted by Lurker on Monday, February 25, 2008 at 05:55 PM |”

I knew that and only asked facetiously. The point being is that the Republicans (if judged in toto by their deeds—not rhetoric) have always been Communists going back to Lincoln. Goldwater, Taft and Paul are anomalies.

Posted by wjg on February 27, 2008, 08:20 AM | #

Silver,

I have noticed a positive development in your posts and I commend you for it.  Some may still hold it against you but I’m glad to welcome you aboard.  I still disagree on your assessment of Fred’s posts.  Some floundering antis may stay in their perverse dream world because we’re not all nice all the time but others will see that we have some spirit - unlike virtually all other white men in the modern domain of politics.