Muslim rape wave in Sweden

J Richards touched on some of these incidents a while ago

Linda gangraped by Negroes

Muslim Rape Wave in Sweden

By Fjordman

Swedish girls Malin and Amanda were on their way to a party on New Year’s Eve when they were assaulted, raped and beaten half to death by four Somali immigrants. Sweden’s largest newspaper has presented the perpetrators as “two men from Sweden, one from Finland and one from Somalia”, a testimony as to how bad the informal censorship is in stories related to immigration in Sweden. Similar incidents are reported with shocking frequency, to the point where some observers fear that law and order is completely breaking down in the country. The number of rape charges in Sweden has tripled in just above twenty years. Rape cases involving children under the age of 15 are six - 6 - times as common today as they were a generation ago. Most other kinds of violent crime have rapidly increased, too. Instability is spreading to most urban and suburban areas.

According to a new study from the Crime Prevention Council, Brå, it is four times more likely that a known rapist is born abroad, compared to persons born in Sweden. Resident aliens from Algeria, Libya, Morocco and Tunisia dominate the group of rape suspects. According to these statistics, almost half of all perpetrators are immigrants. In Norway and Denmark, we know that non-Western immigrants, which frequently means Muslims, are grossly overrepresented on rape statistics. In Oslo, Norway, immigrants were involved in two out of three rape charges in 2001. The numbers in Denmark were the same, and even higher in the city of Copenhagen with three out of four rape charges. Sweden has a larger immigrant, including Muslim, population than any other country in northern Europe. The numbers there are likely to be at least as bad as with its Scandinavian neighbors. The actual number is thus probably even higher than what the authorities are reporting now, as it doesn’t include second generation immigrants. Lawyer Ann Christine Hjelm, who has investigated violent crimes in Svea high court, found that 85 per cent of the convicted rapists were born on foreign soil or by foreign parents.

A group of Swedish teenage girls has designed a belt that requires two hands to remove and which they hope will deter would-be rapists. “It’s like a reverse chastity belt,” one of the creators, 19-year-old Nadja Björk, told AFP, meaning that the wearer is in control, instead of being controlled. Björk and one of her partners now plan to start a business to mass produce the belts and are currently in negotiations with potential partners. “But I’m not doing this for the money,” she said. “I’m really passionate about stopping rape. I think it’s terrible.” In an online readers’ poll from the newspaper Aftonbladet, 82% of the women expressed fear to go outside after dark. There are reports of rapes happening in broad daylight. 30 guests in a Swedish public bath watched as 17 girl was raped recently, and nobody did anything. The girl was first approached by 16-year-old boy. He and his friends followed her as she walked away to the grotto, and inside the grotto he got her blocked in the corner, ripped off her bikini and raped her, while his friend held her firm.

There are even reports of Swedish girls being attacked and cut with knives on the dance floor. A 21-year-old man who came to Sweden a couple of years ago admits that he has a low opinion of Swedish females –or “whores” as he calls them. He is now prosecuted, suspecteded of cutting eight girls in several pubs. He is also charged with raping a girl at a private party, and with sexually harassing another girl in the apartment. Several witnesses claim that the 21 year old has said that he hates Swedish women.

Some Muslim immigrants admit their bias quite openly. An Islamic Mufti in Copenhagen sparked a political outcry after publicly declaring that women who refuse to wear headscarves are “asking for rape.” Apparently, he’s not the only one thinking this way. “It is not as wrong raping a Swedish girl as raping an Arab girl,” says Hamid. “The Swedish girl gets a lot of help afterwards, and she had probably fucked before, anyway. But the Arab girl will get problems with her family. For her, being raped is a source of shame. It is important that she retains her virginity until she marries.” It was no coincidence that it was a Swedish girl that was gang raped in Rissne – this becomes obvious from the discussion with Ali, Hamid, Abdallah and Richard. All four have disparaging views on Swedish girls, and think this attitude is common among young men with immigrant background. “It is far too easy to get a Swedish whore…… girl, I mean;” says Hamid, and laughs over his own choice of words. “Many immigrant boys have Swedish girlfriends when they are teenagers. But when they get married, they get a proper woman from their own culture who has never been with a boy. That’s what I am going to do. I don’t have too much respect for Swedish girls. I guess you can say they get fucked to pieces.”

The number of rapes committed by Muslim immigrants in Western nations are so extremely high that it is difficult to view them only as random acts of individuals. It resembles warfare. Muhammad himself had forced sex (rape) with several of his slave girls/concubines. This is perfectly allowed, both in the sunna and in the Koran. If you postulate that many of the Muslims in Europe view themselves as a conquering army and that European women are simply war booty, it all makes perfect sense and is in full accordance with Islamic law. Western women are not so much regarded by most Muslims as individuals, but as “their women,” the women who “belong” to hostile Infidels. They are booty, to be taken, just as the land of the Infidels someday will drop, it is believed, into Muslim hand. This is not mere crime, but ideologically-justified crime or rather, in Muslim eyes, attacks on Infidels scarcely qualify as crime. Western women are cheap and offensive. We Muslims are here, here to stay, and we have a right to take advantage of this situation. It is our view of the matter that should prevail. Western goods, like the land on which we now live, belong to Allah and to the best of men—his Believers. Western women, too, essentially belong to us—our future booty. No wonder there is a deep and increasing suspicion against Muslims in the Swedish and European public.

Sweden has national elections less than a year from now. Here is a suggested draft email, in English and Swedish, that you can send in to Swedish politicians and media to protest the lack of honesty about what Muslim immigration is doing to the country:

I would hereby like to protest against the passivity and the lack of resolve demonstrated by Swedish authorities in the face of a huge spike in the number of rapes in their country. It is time for Swedish politicians, Swedish media and the Swedish public to admit that the large increase in the number of rape charges in their country during the past generation is intimately tied to the immigration that has taken place during that same time period. The attitude among many Muslim men is that women who are not veiled and act properly submissive have themselves to blame if something happens to them. Such a line of thinking is incompatible with the culture of freedom in any Western country. It means that as long as Muslim immigration continues, Sweden will continue to import an Islamic culture that will destroy women’s freedom in Swedish society. The strains caused by immigration are now so large that unless something serious is done about this, pretty soon Sweden will face the same kind of riots we have recently seen in France, and will approach the point of permanent ethnic and religious strife. Swedish politicians and media need to put the well-being of their daughters above that of political correctness and their own Multicultural vanity, and it is shocking that they actually need to be reminded of this. It is an international embarrassment to Sweden as a nation that Swedes travel around the world to lecture about women’s rights, and at the same time their own young women are finding that their most basic rights, such as being able to go outside wearing normal clothes without being harassed, are slipping away. It’s a sham, and it needs to end. Unless Swedish authorities are able to provide basic security to a population that pays some of the highest tax rates in the world, the Swedish government should publicly admit its inadequacy and resign from office. At the very least, it should be honest enough to tell Swedish citizens that they have to provide security for themselves, and stop making it difficult for people to do this. The Swedish general elections are less than a year away, and this time, Muslim immigration needs to be raised to the very top of the public agenda.

Posted by Phil Peterson on Friday, December 16, 2005 at 12:31 PM in Islam & IslamificationJournalismMarxism & Culture WarRace realism
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Posted by Guessedworker on December 16, 2005, 02:06 PM | #

Sadly, Fjordman will give up blogging in a few days time.  Its’s understandable because the self-imposed pressure on a single blogger to keep producing good material can get to be a burden.  Still, there aren’t nearly enough voices out there arguing for the survival of the West, and we can’t afford to lose good ones like this guy.

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Posted by John S Bolton on December 16, 2005, 03:13 PM | #

Offcials rejoice in freedom for aggression, and will increase it every bit as much as can be gotten away with. Moslems do not have to be treated as individuals in the current state of war which they have declared against the ‘infidel’; it is actually traitorous to treat them as equals and individuals in these circumstances.

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Posted by Martin Hutchinson on December 16, 2005, 04:01 PM | #

We’ve already posted this unpleasant picture once; did we really need to do so again?  Alienating moderates and narrowing MR’s focus seem to me counterproductive.

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Posted by J Richards on December 16, 2005, 04:10 PM | #

Phil,

I added the picture to your post.  You shouldn’t be hotlinking to images in your posts because the source may have hotlinking protection enabled to prevent others from stealing its bandwith, as happens to be the case for the source that you have attempted to take the picture from; besides, stealing others’ bandwith should preferably be avoided.  Download the image that you wish to display to a folder and then upload it to MR.  Even if you are commenting, you can log in to the control panel, upload the image (do nothing else) and then link to it in the comment.  For instance, the url to the image above is:

majorityrights.com/images/uploads/gang_raped_linda.jpg

For any image you upload using the control panel, the url will be the same except for the name of the image.

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Posted by Phil on December 16, 2005, 04:12 PM | #

Thanks. We could reduce the image though. Its too big.

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Posted by J Richards on December 16, 2005, 04:18 PM | #

Martin,

The previous picture was much smaller.  Anyway, putting a face on the epidemic is likely necessary to jolt Swedish authorities into action.

Fjordman also provided the following contact information:

Some suggested email addresses:

Swedish Prime Minister Göran Persson: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)

Swedish Minister of Justice Thomas Bodström: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)

Swedish Member of Cabinet Mona Sahlin: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)


Swedish Members of Parliament:

Socialdemokraterna:

Jan Björkman: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)
Tomas Eneroth: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)

Moderaterna:

Fredrik Reinfeldt: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)
Gunilla Carlsson: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)

Centerpartiet:

Maud Olofsson: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)
Marianne Magnusson: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)

Folkpartiet liberalerna:

Lars Leijonborg: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)
Mauricio Rojas: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)

Vänsterpartiet:

Lars Ohly: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)
Titti Berg: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)

Kristdemokraterna:

Göran Hägglund: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)
Maria Larsson: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)


Swedish media:

Aftonbladet:

Jens Kärrman: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)
Karin Johansson: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)
Mia Carron: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)
Helle Klein: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)

Expressen:

Terese Cristiansson: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)
Anders Fallenius: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)
Mats Lilja: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)

Svenska Dagbladet:

.(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ,
.(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)
Annsofie Näslund: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)

Sveriges Radio:

.(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ,
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Maria Ekelund: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)
Kajsa Hallhagen: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)
Helena Iles: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)
Monica Orlando Dahlin: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)

Sveriges Television:

Johan Lindén: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)
Jan Axelsson,: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)
Carina Brorman: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)
Gunwi Silander: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)

Dagens Nyheter:
Jan Wifstrand: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)
Pia Skagermark: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)
Niklas Ekdal: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)
Henrik Brors: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)

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Posted by Andrew on December 16, 2005, 04:28 PM | #

It seems the Brainwashing has been that severe; when Truths and fact are raise in the most rarest of Media and political occasions, it still has no impact, unless you or someone close has become a victim; there can not be many left who have not been touched by the poisonous Fete Comply, and may well but for a few, consigned their own fete because of the ignorance and the miss begotten trust by those only worthy of complete utter contempt. Sounds like psychological tactics to me, and to a greater extent subliminal messaging and conditioning in language and Reasoning. “Born Free” the movie is a prime example of what happens when basic instinctive skills are removed, When the Survival skills are depleted and people (Animals) made dependent on others, your reason - your thoughts- your skills are removed- you die-and we are being conditioned for that very fete by Pathological Looter Engineers.
Same Question again and Again, Where are our “Intelligent” to warn you of the Scourge? Where are the Competent ?, and most important Where are are the defenders to counter and protect you of such a horrific circumstance: complete silence and abandonment.

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Posted by Phil on December 16, 2005, 04:40 PM | #

J Richards,

You must be credited with more optimism than I have ever possessed.

Expecting the spineless Social Democrat cowardly politicians that currently run Sweden would be a little too much to expect. It would take a massive political swing and the coming of strong nationalistic parties to do the job (and there aren’t any serious contenders on the horizon just yet although I would defer to people better informed on Sweden than I am).

Cowards like Göran Persson are not going to do the job. Affirmative action quotas is probably what they will come up with next.

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Posted by Phil on December 16, 2005, 04:50 PM | #

Actually even if some political party tried to talk about it, it would get nowhere because of Sweden’s “Hate Speech” laws. One far-right leader was recently arrested for saying:

“I don’t think I am alone in feeling sick when reading about how Swedish girls are raped by immigrant hordes.”

So even if lots of people wanted to solve the problem, talking about it would be impossible because it would lead to immediate arrest.

Nice isn’t it? The Muslims rape and kill and do as they please and the native Europeans get arrested for noticing it!

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Posted by ben tillman on December 16, 2005, 05:03 PM | #

Translation of the caption under the photo:

Linda, 18, wants the pictures taken of her after the assault to be publicized in The Express, to show how brutal the violence against women can be.

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Posted by J Richards on December 16, 2005, 05:17 PM | #

Phil,

One needs to use tact if one has to deal with Swedish “anti-hate” laws.  For instance, one could make a din about Scandinavian women having the highest status among women throughout the world, yet there being an increasing incidence of rape of women in Sweden.  One could say in public, “This is a crisis and we need to sit down and think about why this is happening; why is heteropatriarchal oppression getting worse?”  As long as immigrants are not mentioned, one would not fall foul of “anti-hate” laws.

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Posted by john rackell on December 16, 2005, 05:21 PM | #

So even if lots of people wanted to solve the problem, talking about it would be impossible because it would lead to immediate arrest.

They cannot arrest everyone. At some point we have to call the authorities’ bluff. The Australian police can arrest one man for carrying a branch, can they arrest 1,000 or 10,000, or 100,000? The justice system would grind to a halt. Can the Swedish police arrest everyone who dares to speak up? It is foolhardy for a single person to do it but not for thousands. Such organization is non-violent and legal and legitimate for us and for us to promote.

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Posted by Phil on December 16, 2005, 05:23 PM | #

But if you don’t discuss the actual cause, real reform will never come because there will be plenty of deluded idiots who will continue to believe in the “Social Democrat” fantasy.

The only way the situation is going to change is if the anti-hate laws are repealed first.

Anyway, I think the situation will probably get a lot lot worse in Sweden before they have any prospect of getting better.

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Posted by Phil on December 16, 2005, 05:26 PM | #

John,

That would be a very interesting event. I keep thinking back to the Berlin Wall. The bluff was called and the whole thing collapsed in a heap in no time.

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Posted by john rackell on December 16, 2005, 05:55 PM | #

Phil, the Berlin wall and the toppling of the Ceausescu regime spring to mind. The rebellion against Ceaucescu happened literally under his nose when the crowd he was giving his speech to began murmuring its discontent. It was up to the Romanian authorities to open fire on the crowd, or depose Ceausescu. It was courageous of them.

At least we in the West have the right to organize in open. I don’t think the police and army are prepared to open fire on us. I think the real fear for many in the West is not physical fear but economic fear of losing one’s job.

But I think those of us who write here should look at this as a war (non-violent in the civil disobedience), with all that entails. Collective action to organize massive ‘force’ at specific weak points in the multicultural opposition. And the ability to go to prison in mass numbers means the state won’t use gang rape against white prisoners as a means of reprisal. If large numbers of whites were going to prison it would dramatically increase the dialogue in the respective countries because it makes the government look oppressive and this is a hearts and minds campaign within the white volk.

The temperature has got to be raised because it gets people on the sidelines engaged in the debate and we could see if they are on our side or not.

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Posted by Andrew on December 16, 2005, 06:43 PM | #

Here is an interesting link: Just edit in what Nation you live- and Political party in power there and send it in. Not much but at least it’s a start. Shake that tree a little harder.
http://cracker.com.au/viewthread.aspx?categoryid=11121&threadid=94369

This is not just an isolated problem, it is of an International design.

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Posted by Geoff Beck on December 16, 2005, 07:56 PM | #

Ben,

> Translation of the caption under the photo:
> Linda, 18, wants the pictures taken of her after the assault to be publicized in >The Express, to show how brutal the violence against women can be.

Respectability, Ben. We need to remember that. Respectability.  It’s all about respectability.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on December 16, 2005, 09:20 PM | #

“Respectability, Ben. We need to remember that. Respectability.  It’s all about respectability.”  (—Geoff)

Geoff’s sarcastic here but as Timothy McVeigh, David Koresh, Lázaro González (Elian’s Miami uncle), the Tian An Men pro-democracy demonstrators, and lots of others learned the hard way:  you can’t call the shots when you’re not the one in power.

Our turn will come.  When power starts to shift it’ll be obvious, as it was suddenly in Hungary, then East Berlin, then the other places one-by-one in rapid succession, in 1989.  The other side won’t be able to stop it.  We’ll be ecstatic with joy.  They’ll be trembling from fright and vomiting from fear. 

Right now I can’t do anything. 

But I can remember.

The motto you see on license plates of the Quebeckers driving around here in Vermont is Je me souviens.  I remember. 

The other side forbid a lot but this they can’t forbid.  They can’t unburn what their outrages have seared in like a scar.  They can’t get inside my brain.  They can’t get at my memory.  It’s not going anywhere.  It’ll be there when our turn comes, still fresh as when all their heartbreaking tyranny, their crude unprovoked crimes, their aggressive injustice, their attempted forced genocide were five minutes old.  Those memories will be there, perfectly fresh, when our turn comes. 
______

All I know is

that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.”—Enoch Powell
Moratorium-plus-

Repatriation

!
Balkanization is better than Brazilianization!
The

1965 Immigration-Holocaust Act

:  the gift that keeps on giving!
What’s sauce for the goose is sauce for the usual suspects!
“White fellows fight back and we fight back hard; it is in our genes, being Anglos.”—Andrew

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Posted by Svigor on December 16, 2005, 11:57 PM | #

My position is that once speech is suppressed by the government, the gloves come off.  I’ll leave it to the Swedes and the rest to decide their own fate, but if speech ever becomes criminalized here, I say all bets are off.

A government that criminalizes speech is illegitimate, tyrannical.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on December 17, 2005, 01:27 AM | #

“My position is that once speech is suppressed by the government, the gloves come off.”  (—Svigor)

I would say that sounds right.  If they flat-out suppress our discussion of these topics with one another—if they make it so we can’t communicate with each other on these questions—then, you’re right, the gloves come off.  It’s of course in preparation for doing exactly that—for suppressing our ability to communicate with one another on these topics—that the other side wants so hysterically to get our guns away from us.  Any group that lets itself be disarmed signs its own death warrant:  that group will be genocided out of existence as surely as the sun will rise tomorrow.  The only question is, How soon?  How much time does that group have left to survive?
______

All I know is

that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.”—Enoch Powell
Moratorium-plus-

Repatriation

!
Balkanization is better than Brazilianization!
The

1965 Immigration-Holocaust Act

:  the gift that keeps on giving!
What’s sauce for the goose is sauce for the usual suspects!
“White fellows fight back and we fight back hard; it is in our genes, being Anglos.”—Andrew

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on December 17, 2005, 02:36 AM | #

Incidentally, if you look closely at “Linda’s” nose in that picture it looks (unless this is some sort of illusion due to the particular shadowing and all the dried streaks of blood) as if her nose is pretty badly broken—smashed—in several places.  If that’s right I’d say the Moslem or Somali thug or whatever he was had her down and was literally stomping on her face with his shoe—either that or he must have punched her quite hard a number of times in the face with his fist to smash up her nose like that.  How a man could do that to anyone let alone a woman just boggles the mind.  The explanation of course is this person was not a man, but an animal.

“Alienating moderates and narrowing MR’s focus”  (—Martin)

Martin, while I agree that over-emphasis on the topic of Jews can be a turn-off for moderates (an observation made in the other thread, on Ireland) I don’t see why going over this particular news item a second time, or posting this photo a second time, ought to alienate moderates.—or if it does, maybe the kind of moderates it alienates are the kind who’d never be happy with MR.com anyway.  With all respect, I think doing that article and photo a second time are perfectly OK.

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Posted by Freddy on December 17, 2005, 02:41 AM | #

Incidentally, if you look closely at “Linda’s” nose in that picture it looks (unless this is some sort of illusion due to the particular shadowing and all the dried streaks of blood) as if her nose is pretty badly broken—smashed—in several places.

I believe she had to have reconstructive facial surgery.

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Posted by Søren Renner on December 17, 2005, 11:41 AM | #

Hey, Svi, Fred, et al! Happy Saturday. I just had a notion—I thought I’d run it up the flagpole. What say we join Geoff Beck and fight as brothers? Just a thought.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on December 17, 2005, 12:37 PM | #

“What say we join Geoff Beck and fight as brothers? Just a thought.”  (—Soren)

Hi, Soren.  I think I get your point—the story of what happened to this Swedish girl and seeing this photo of her battered face and head makes people madder than hell.  I’m with you completely, I hope it’s not necessary to point out:  I for one am mad as could be.  I’m quietly furious at the situation and at the behind-the-scenes individuals and groups who are doing this.  I would say you, Svigor, Geoff and I are already fighting as brothers, each in the way most suited to his personality, his strengths and his weaknesses.  I don’t know if my own set of strengths and weaknesses would suit me to become a regular poster at the site Geoff’s at now.  On the other hand, MajorityRights.com feels perfect for me, perfectly suited to my personality and the sort of place and ambience where I can be most effective.  Thanks for your comment which I take as a welcome expression of outrage and of solidarity in this struggle.  I view you as a fellow soldier and I hope you view me as one.  I’ll call you a word not used in the English-speaking world among fellow soldiers but more in Central and Eastern Europe, a word a Flemish nationalist at another site recently called me after I’d commented on a post of his:  comrade.  It gave me a good feeling when that Fleming called me that, and I’ll call you that:  thank you for your comment, comrade!

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Posted by Phil on December 17, 2005, 01:17 PM | #

I’m quietly furious at the situation and at the behind-the-scenes individuals and groups who are doing this.

Yes this is the one area where I think I disagree with almost everyone at this site.

I don’t think one can make the “machinating individuals” argument in respect of small Scandinavian nations. Also, unlike the United States, Sweden and Norway (to take two examples) have a remarkable degree economic equality and are less susceptible to political manipulation by big business (which gains little from Muslim rabble anyway because it is unemployable).

Sorry chaps. But its the Scandinvians (by which I mean the average Scandinavian voter) who have dug the grave for themselves and it is for them to dig themselves out of it. If you read Fjordman’s blog, you will get a flavour of kind of loonie, love the world, socialist humanitarian politics that has long been such a defining characteristic of Scandinavia*. And you can go all the way back to the odious Gunnar Myrdal for confirmation (Myrdal’s American Dilemma was written 61 years go, no less).

No. There are no machinating elites here. The average Swede or Norwegian has opted for this type of politics for years now. And they are paying the price for it. Denmark (which is right next door) shows that if the public gets fed up with it, the politics changes very rapidly indeed. That hasn’t happened in Sweden or Norway just yet.

*Norway has just passed a law which says that where a non-white resident of Norway accuses a native Norwegian of “discrimination”, the native Norwegian is guilty unless he can prove his innocence. And this law was apparently passed with an 85 percent majority in the Norwegian parliament.

So if the majority of Norwegians and Swedes love masochism, then…...

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Posted by Søren Renner on December 17, 2005, 01:55 PM | #

Fred, I did not say “let us join Geoff at his other site.” I was happy to see him back here, and took the liberty of (para)quoting the title of an essay he posted some while back. Your anger is justified but not mandatory; some dishes are just as well served cold, and prepared rationally. I feel the pressure not of rage but of time. Perhaps Eliot’s barman said it best: Hurry up its time. Eliding the “’” introduces a lovely ambiguity, don’t you think so?

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Posted by Svigor on December 17, 2005, 02:25 PM | #

I have to take a tangential point from Phil’s post and apply it to answering Soren’s question.

My job is to get my race to want to save itself.  If that job is accomplished, I’ll serve in any capacity necessary.  If it fails, I’ll not do my race’s job for it, but rather pursue my own best interests.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on December 17, 2005, 02:56 PM | #

The link in Andrew’s comment of Dec. 16, 10:43 PM has a letter composed by a chap at that site meant to be taken and sent amended or as is to the New South Wales parliament members.  I amended it and sent it yesterday, carelessly addressing it to the national parliament in Canberra by mistake.  One legislator, Peter Primrose, has replied.  Here’s his e-mail, and underneath it the amended form-letter gotten from Andrew’s site, which I e-mailed yesterday:
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[Mr. Primrose’s reply to me:]

My friend, not only have you addressed your email to the wrong parliament, but your logic is as muddled as your understanding of our local situation.

Frankly, I would think that any citizen of the USA would have more than enough opportunities to address social problems in your own country, given your appalling record on social justice, poverty reduction, health insurance, George Bush, racism, gun crime etc. etc. etc.

You export crime, pollution, guns, tax fraud, exploitation, rigged elections, low wages, and war throughout the world.

Any country that allows the travesty of Guantanamo Bay cannot preach to anyone else about justice.

Just go and find another small Middle Eastern country to invade for their oil, and leave the rest of us alone.
______

[Here’s the e-mail I’d sent, not written by me, being a slightly amended version of the one composed at that other site, which I basically agreed with and used at the writer’s invitation:]

                                              Vermont  
                                              December 16, 2005

Members of the Australian Parliament
Canberra, Australia


Dear Members,

    As a most concerned Euro-American I am writing to you in complete dismay at the lack of prior attention to the problems that have been festering for years within the Middle Eastern Muslim communities of Southern Sydney.

    The evidence has been in plain view for all to see, and that this current situation would eventually disintegrate into some form of large scale civil unrest was apparent to anyone in touch with reality.  However, for years you have decisively and collectively turned your backs on your responsibility to deal with this matter and, in so doing, on the law abiding community that appointed you.

    It’s abhorrent that throughout these past few days of civic disturbances the political and media spin on these events has painted the Australian element as being somehow the instigator of all of the trouble.

    We have had to witness the Australian-born community leaders from Maroubra and Cronulla humbly apologising to the Middle Eastern community though we have yet to hear any reciprocal apology coming from Middle Eastern communities about their own youths’ long-term provocations and disgraceful behaviour towards the people of a country that gave their very own parents succour in their time of greatest need.

    Anglo-Australian men have been murdered, stabbed, shot at and bashed by Middle Eastern gangs for years while Anglo-Australian women have been raped, spat upon and otherwise denigrated yet somehow Anglo-Australians are the cause of the problem, it seems.

    Will one of you please explain why, as elected leaders, you continue to make repeated concessions and excuses for the ongoing illegal activities and anti-social behaviour of a large number of members from these communities?

    It is more than ‘common knowledge around the village’ that since the introduction of the National Gun Laws, brought about by the tragedy at Port Arthur, the Middle Eastern communities have continued to steadily build up their stockpile of illegal weapons, particularly firearms, in flagrant disregard for the law of the land, while law-abiding Anglo-Australians who strive to play by the rules remain disarmed.

    The Police Minister’s complacency regarding the illegal gun issue to date has already seen a multitude of murders, shootings and acts of intimidation transpire without even mentioning the extortion of monies from businesses and the drug trade that these people control simply because they have the firepower. There cannot continue to be a situation in which those who feel enmity toward Anglo-Australians are, in effect, permitted to arm while Anglo-Australians aren’t.  The Police Minister cannot continue to bury his head in the sand in the hope that this problem will go away. It will not.

    As Edmund Burke so poignantly stated, “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” Do not allow your period of political life and this Legislative Assembly to be remembered by future generations as the one that had a clear opportunity to prevent the outbreak of civil war in Australia but sat back and did nothing.

    Tough times often require tough measures. Now is your time to do something truly meaningful that will give the people some reason to respect the politicians and police of New South Wales again.

                                                  Yours truly,

                                                    Fred Scrooby

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Posted by Phil on December 17, 2005, 03:03 PM | #

That Primrose looks like another fruitcake of the flower generation. (chuckle)

I suppose he’s not going to “get it” until he himself gets physically beaten up by Lebanese thugs. Morality is wonderful when others get stabbed, knifed or gang-raped. Once the treatement gets spread more evenly, that morality begins to totter rather rapidly.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on December 17, 2005, 03:11 PM | #

My experience with Mr. Primrose illustrates the following:

Speak thou not in the ears of unwise men; for they shall despise the teaching of thy speech.”  Proverbs 23, 9 (Wycliffe)

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Posted by Phil on December 17, 2005, 03:24 PM | #

http://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/prod/parlment/members.nsf/0/36A72E1C810FC5124A25672E0002E1DA/$file/print.jpg

Primrose….........

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Posted by Phil on December 17, 2005, 03:25 PM | #

Not a pretty sight!

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Posted by Andrew on December 17, 2005, 03:25 PM | #

Well Fred, You found out how brain-dead and stupid our Government is – Beaurocrats etc, Thanks for publishing the reply Fred, we all can garnish now why our countries are stuffed. All this started in the Universities, and we are reaping the hellish consequences of the Idiot’s. Fruit cake is a bit light Phil, I could name a few other names, and this parasite is on about 375,000.00 dollars a year, certainly not value for my money, and with my money I demand value, but we get Dopes. Sadly there are a great many of them: This can not last for much longer, we do all realize that?

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Posted by Phil on December 17, 2005, 03:42 PM | #

and this parasite is on about 375,000.00 dollars a year

I bet he doesn’t donate most of that to charity, given that his income is several times the income of the average Australian?

Keeps the money for himself while sucking the private sector for more “charity”. That’s a good Leftist for you. The morality fits the personal interests perfectly.

Fred,

I’d be tempted to reply to him saying that given how rich he is, he may wish to alleviate some of the poverty in the third world by donating most of the 375,000 that he makes. Surely his opinions would require that of him no?

As with that troll Simon, the moment you pin a Leftist down to parting with his interests to match his words with deeds, gibberish usually follows and then they scoot. I’d be very temped to send a reply. (chuckle)

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Posted by Andrew on December 17, 2005, 03:53 PM | #

The picture Phil tells the whole story: He obviously is a Union Thug, and with in the ranks of the Labor party here at least is not so dissimilar than the Mafia organization, Reality dopes become QC and attorneys-Advisors-Consultants- Trained and programmed in Linguistics- but not by intelligent design, e.g. Taxi Driver , (Labor party Member) realized he is not smart enough to become a QC, but a fellow labor part fraudster, claimed you do not have to be, so Intellectual degrees are now Fraud and are criminal based, not the Intelligent Design- but by-“ my mate is more important than the public good”, when you have 1 million or so of these individual Omiba’s (Single Cell organisms) pretending- and robbing you blind by legalized corruption, that alone is a large contributing reason why we are falling apart and quite rapidly. Correlate that to the need to Import more Dopes from third world Nations helps compliment their lack of intelligence, for others around are so stupid they will never realize they are not that smart after all.

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Posted by Martin Hutchinson on December 17, 2005, 06:26 PM | #

Phil, your assumption that democratic politics controls Scandinavia is wrong; they are among the less deomocratic countries in the world, in the sense of being subject to the force of mass popular opinion.  Norway’s an oil state, and controlled by the poeple who run its oil company.  Sweden is economically controlled by the Wallenberg family, and has been since 1936 when Marcus Wallenberg did a deal with incomeing Socialist Premier Tage Erlander that he could levy whetever cuckoo taxes and political correctness he wanted on everyone elsem, provided that the Wallenbergs could keep their control of the majority of major Swedish companies in tax free foundations, the use of proceeds from which would not be enquired into too closely though the family would not make a vulgar exhibition of itself.  That’s why Sweden was so successful; it wasn’t a Socialist country after 1945, it was a corporate state under the control of one man, like a rather larger Ford Motor Corporation under the first Henry Ford (Sweden has a working population of only about 3 million, after all.) This didn’t stop working in the early 80s because the socilist model broke down, it stopped working because Marcus Wallenberg died, and his heir Peter was useless.  However since about 1998 it has been run by a grandson, Jacob, who’s a nasty piece of work but capable, and economic growth has resumed. The Wallenbergs are a socially liberal lot (and in any case live much of the time in Britain) so social liberalism is the way it is.  It’s as if the Chamber of Commerce, with its crazed hunger for cheap immigrant labor, was ACTUALLY running the United States instead of merley thinking it did.

Incidentally, the Sensenbrenner immigration leguislation passed the House last night—wall with Mexico, eelectronic checking of illegal immigrants, abolition of the visa lottery—a LOT of moves in the right direction.  IT may not survive the Senate, and it may well get vetoed by the odious W, but it shows the tectonic plates are shifting, and it may also do some good.

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Posted by Phil on December 17, 2005, 07:32 PM | #

Martin,

A liberal democracy isn’t a corporation. Politics is more complex than that. Which is why your political analysis lacks penitration, in my humble opinion. The thing is, economic causes and theories do not explain political motives particularly well and in some cases not at all.

And we are talking of countries which are liberal democracies, i.e. “one man/woman, one vote”. If the policies we are talking about were so repulsive to the Swedish/Norwegian electorate, they would have voiced their dissent at the ballot box and done so vehemently (and before all this dumb hate speech legislation was passed).

Please read Gunnar Myrdal’s work and the works of the Swedish academics who followed in his footsteps and shaped the politics of Scandinavia and indeed the Western world. Scandinavians have a “thing” for “love the world” politics. That is just a fact.

All the Scandinavians I have known from my University days have been like that and they probably represent the current godawful situation better than those of earlier generations. And none of them ever showed an inclination for a more sensible common sense conservative course of action although nothing ever stopped them from doing so.

More specifically,

Norway’s an oil state, and controlled by the poeple who run its oil company.

The oil company is state owned I believe and the state is answerable to the people at the ballot box.

Sweden is economically controlled by the Wallenberg family, and has been since 1936 when Marcus Wallenberg did a deal with incomeing Socialist Premier Tage Erlander that he could levy whetever cuckoo taxes and political correctness he wanted on everyone elsem, provided that the Wallenbergs could keep their control of the majority of major Swedish companies in tax free foundations, the use of proceeds from which would not be enquired into too closely though the family would not make a vulgar exhibition of itself. 

So the impetus for cuckoo taxes and political correctness came from the politicians and not the Wallenbergs? That has been my whole point which is that the level of masochistic moral vanity the Scandinavians show is a reflection of their public opinion. It has not been introduced by a machinating cabal in the background. That is what the public wants. Now that it is starting to hurt them physically, I am sure many are having second thoughts about it. But they voted for this stuff in the first place!

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Posted by Melba Peachtoast on December 17, 2005, 08:14 PM | #

Let us not allow ourselves to be lead down the Primrose path like sheeple to the shambles. “Si Quaeres Amoenam Marsupialium, Circumcise”. Well, darlings, the wallabies have knowcked down their quadrangle again so your Melba must—

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Posted by Martin Hutchinson on December 17, 2005, 09:24 PM | #

A democratic electorate will always vote to pillage the rich if it thinks it can get away with it; this was first noticed by Lord Salisbury in 1862. In Sweden, because its idiocy had no adverse economic consequences, it was able to get away with it.  In Britain, 1945-79 proved that it couldn’t.

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Posted by Phil on December 17, 2005, 09:49 PM | #

Martin,

Sorry but you have a tendency to disappear on an “economic” tangent. My point was not about taxes but Scandinavian moral vanity as great humanitarians, tolerant people and about laws that are now so absurd as to fall foul of the most basic principles of civilized jurisprudence. These rapes and all the other attendant problems of mass Muslim immigration are a result of that.

And what you have just said about the majority plundering the rich in democracy flatly contradicts what you said earlier about Sweden being less of a democracy. So is Sweden a democracy or not? Your suggesting that it was inevitable that the rich would get plundered in a democracy suggests that you think it is. But before that you wrote:

Phil, your assumption that democratic politics controls Scandinavia is wrong; they are among the less deomocratic countries in the world, in the sense of being subject to the force of mass popular opinion.

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Posted by Martin Hutchinson on December 17, 2005, 09:59 PM | #

The Swedish electorate is allow to vote high taxes and a huge welfare state, but not to control the “commanding heights of the economy.”  You can by all means argue which is more important, but the normal constraints on economic leftism don’t apply because of the Wallenberg/Erlander deal (Erlander, incidentally lasted until 1962, so the system got well entrenched.)

I suspect not seeing the economic maunderings of leftist academics disproved by economic collapse, as they were in Britain, gives more credibility to their maunderings on other subjects as well, but that I agree is only a theory.

I don’t claim to understand Swedish society particularly, but I do understand their economy, since for several years in the ‘80s I was a Director at Enskilda Securities, sat on the same Board as Peter W (with whom I ventured to disagree about Spain, a country I was rightly (as of ‘86) bullish on and he completeley failed to understand). My career in Swedish banking came to an unexpected close when I told then-trainee Jacob Wallenberg, with complete justification “Jacob, I can see that for you, being a Wallenberg means never having to say you’re sorry.” (you guys did catch “Love Story” on the late night re-runs, didn’t you.)

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on December 19, 2005, 10:51 PM | #

There are New South Wales MPs who have outlooks different from the Peter Primroses of this world (see my comment above, of Dec. 17, 6:56 PM):  Mr. David Oldfield has e-mailed the following reply to the letter I sent:

“Your observations are indeed correct - I have, for many ears, attempted to get people to see what was just around the corner - it is an uphill battle at the best of times.  Regards, David Oldfield.”

Thank goodness there are such clear-sighted men in public service in Australia!

(I hasten to add that, as regards Peter Primrose, there certainly were several truths among the criticisms leveled by him against the United States and American society.  What I for one hold against the likes of Primrose aren’t those particular sorts of criticisms, a number of which I agree with, but the refusal or inability to see reality where excessive incompatible immigration is concerned.  That’s what I hold against such people, who are doing incalculable harm and not only doing it but are arrogant while they’re about it.  This is a very unpleasant lot.)

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Posted by Calvin on December 22, 2005, 04:48 PM | #

“The average Swede or Norwegian has opted for this type of politics for years now. And they are paying the price for it”

We are not Norwegians, Australians, Frenchmen, Italians or Flemmings. We are one people. A family. The Norwegians are NOT the authors of their own destruction. They have fallen under the influence of a drug, a poisonous ideology. If a member of your family falls under the influence of a drug it is your duty to restore them to health. We cannot and will not, ever lose faith in the ability of our brothers and sisters to come to an understanding of their unique legacy and role in the world.

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Posted by Ben on April 15, 2006, 09:05 PM | #

Who isn’t infuriated by this? Tighten down immigration, deal frankly with the hordes of rapist Muslim bastards.

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Posted by Ahmad Yassin on April 16, 2006, 09:47 PM | #

In islam,rape is criminal and will be punish under the shariah law.Those who say Nabi Muhammad SAW permit rapes at slaves or concubines must had a really fantasy idea.You people always claim to be expert on Islam but in reality you know nothing about Islam.Even you made the research from Al Quran,Hadith,muslim intellectual,all you idiots people intention is to attack everything Islamic.You people attack on Islam is nothing new.To those muslims whatever their origin in Europe,beware,anything you do even the smallest crimes will be headlines in their media.So let the scandinavians rotten as fast as they could,as they are nordic people are are educated and successful but as far as i am concern but they are just another type of slaveryto the zionist and remain forever.May u scandinavian burn in peace.To all muslims in Scandinavia,i suggest when the time is up with all the islamphobia invented by the zionist control media,you should keep a low profile.To all westerners,never complain about anything when a christian is sentence to death in Muslim Country for apostate cause in reality you did not really care and mind your own bussiness.If you claims to be one whites nations in Europe whatever you ethnic origin is,no wonder Adolf Hitler vision of Aryan nations fail completely in WW2,and hahahahahah,let lead by example your scandinavian nations merge in one country,language & government.What nordic?Sweden,Finland,Norway & Denmark?I hope it become reality in 2010.If not,then i suggest you should separates forever.Hahahahah,lets see if i"m correct,you educated but monkey iq scandinavians.

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Posted by Al Ross on April 16, 2006, 10:56 PM | #

Islam’s overwhelmingly Third World adherents are mostly illiterate and, in Malaysia, where the majority of them are able to read and write, there is an ineradicable belief in pre-Islamic animism among the majority Muslim Malays. Also the rape and incest rates in Malaysia are indicative of much Muslim over-representation, whilst the higher IQ Overseas Chinese Malaysians are considerably under-represented in the commission of both types of crime.

The Muslim attitude to women is proprietorial and,of course, this backward state if affairs is at the root of the rape problem, a situation which wouldnt matter to Whites if the primitives limited their disgusting activities to their own ugly womenfolk.

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Posted by Ahmad Yassin on April 17, 2006, 12:32 AM | #

To Al Ross,muslims in Malaysia had the highest standard of living and better educated.Unfortunately,although Malaysia is muslims majority,Islam is the official religion,Msia govt is secular at the official level.Yes,i’m not ashamed to admit they are malay muslims in my country who is alcoholic,drug addicts,drug trafficker and all sort of crimes.But do not forget,our government law is very strict whether it is Islamic sharia law or otherwise.Here a convicted drugs trafficker will be sentence to death.Rapists whether muslims or not,depend on the case,liable for wiping & 20 years life imprisons.I myself hates muslim who commit crimes to other people whether the victim muslim or otherwise.I had no sympathy for them.Yes,it is true my government did implement institution racism towards the non muslim community especially chinese.But it does not means we oppress them.Why?Because Malaysia belong to Malay muslims supremacy historically just like if i were to becomes Swedish citizen,i had no right to say Sweden belong to immigrants.And as i had say,you westerners are very ignorant about Islam.Your negative remarks does not suprise me at all.Chinese in Msia had many rights that they did not had in Indonesia.They can celebrate new year,chinese schools,open liquor store that to most muslims are forbidden in Islam.To Fred Scooby,why the immigrants muslims commit rapes in Europe acccording to statistics.I think their view is Europe women are wild,immoral and very seductive to men whether muslims or otherwise.And since Europe law are so tolerant about sex,so why not,they coommit it?Who is going to punish them in Europe under Islamic sharia laws?That does not means that muslims men in Europe had any rights to rape white women whether they are in bikini or sexy outfit nor did i ever agree if what mufti of denmark said that sexy women invite muslims man to rape.Thats the most nonsense idea i ever heard if he did really say that.I just wonder why non muslim country are quiet about porno,gays,alcohol or is it part of the new world order?Just look at the surplus of women in Europe?And then you people attack Islam permits polygamy?No wonder when a porno company in Europe & Americas want to start a new films,Europeans and white women are always available.Of course this women are train in their youth by their culture as long you are above 18,is is your freedom to had sex whether it heterosexual or homos.So i had to agree with mufti of Denmark,whites woman had nothing to be respect whether by muslims or otherwise.Unfortunately,most of the whores & porno industry are done by non muslims whites,blacks and asians.No wonder your women are look down by muslims.And yes,don’t think immigrants cause sosial problem in Europe only.A few years ago,Msia government send all illegal immigrants whether their skin is black,brown,muslims or otherwise.Even Indonesians although historically muslims and speak same malay language,if they are illegal,they will be deported without any delay.This is no joke.

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Posted by Al Ross on April 17, 2006, 12:46 AM | #

Malaysia belongs to the Orang Asli, historically. They were race-replaced by interloper Malays.

The rest of your garbled illiteracy is hardly worth the effort of perusal.

I hope your Bahasa is better than your English, but as the Chinese tend to obtain higher marks in the school subject, this may not necessarily be the case.

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Posted by Phil Peterson on April 17, 2006, 02:47 AM | #

To Fred Scooby,why the immigrants muslims commit rapes in Europe acccording to statistics.I think their view is Europe women are wild,immoral and very seductive to men whether muslims or otherwise

Then why aren’t white men going around raping women the same way? They don’t because they are civilized. The Muslims are barbarians who don’t belong in a civilized society. Simple as that really.

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Posted by Ahmad Yassin on April 17, 2006, 03:00 AM | #

What Malaysia belong to orang asli?Orang asli is a malay word if you know bahasa i guess.I think you are either ignorant or will remain ignorant Australian.I did not have to apologize for my English cause if you are Australian,you always remain phobia about asians invasion of Australia.Australia is actually Asian continent historically only because of accident of history,it is occupied by whites.Whites are the ruling government since colonial time,so they are always correct.To all muslims in Australia,i think you should be on full alert,cause the native son of whites Australia are waging a fantasy racial & religious war on you with any oppurtunity they had.

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Posted by Zam Zam on April 17, 2006, 03:05 AM | #

Just admit you whites man,you people are sexual pervert.Simple as that,white man & women the same.No if,but,this or that.

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Posted by Phil Peterson on April 17, 2006, 03:11 AM | #

Just admit you whites man,you people are sexual pervert.Simple as that,white man & women the same.No if,but,this or that.

LOL!!

We are sexual perverts? At least we don’t bugger boys like your co-religionists do.

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Posted by Phil Peterson on April 17, 2006, 03:16 AM | #

Excerpts:

A Moslem who is the active partner in sexual relations with other men is not considered a “homosexual” (the word has no pre-modern Arabic equivalent); quite the contrary, his sexual domination of another man may even confer a status of hyper-masculinity. He may use other men as substitutes for women, and at the same time have great contempt for them.  This depraved view of sex, common in mainstream Moslem societies, is commonly found in the West only in prisons. In all cases it is the presence of love, affection, or equality among sexual partners that is intolerable. Equality in sexual relations is unimaginable in Islam, whether heterosexual or homosexual. Sex in Islamic societies has never been about mutuality between partners, but about the adult male’s achievement of pleasure through domination.

A 17th century French visitor to the Middle East went so far as to claim that Moslems were bisexual by nature, and many male authors gave descriptions of “licentiousness” (lesbianism) among women in harems and bath houses. Homosexuality became known to the English as the “Persian” or “Turkish” vice.

This peculiar aspect of the Middle East has never entirely disappeared. The sight of men, even soldiers in uniform, strolling along a street hand in hand, strikes first-time visitors as extraordinary even today. The Moslem world enjoyed a reputation as a haven for sex with boys and men well into the twentieth century. The proclivities of many Western authors like Gustave Flaubert, Oscar Wilde, or Andre Gide, reflected the pederast and homosexual attractions of the Islamic world; the fascination continues in the “gay culture” of our own time:

The author of this passage, a self-confessed promiscuous homosexual, has intuited something important, and dangerous. Excessively doting, downtrodden mothers fixated on their offspring, and aloof, mostly distant and domineering fathers, create preconditions for what is known in clinical psychology as the “lost object homosexuality,” as opposed to the pre-Oedipal polyformous homosexuality, which is “love for men.” The cry for the missing father, that emanates across the Moslem world into the endless void from a hundred thousand minarets five times each day, can never be answered. The hatred that motivates Bin Laden and his “feminine yet virile” followers is not the normal aggressiveness of the child for the father at the Oedipal stage, which can be mediated and managed, but hard-core psychotic homosexuality of the son abandoned by his father, a near-incurable condition that can lead to homicidal, delusional paranoia.

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Posted by Zam Zam on April 17, 2006, 03:35 AM | #

What a distorted orientalist writtings you refer to?I just wonder how many foreign words in English dictionary?But in reality sexual pervert are legal in all western nations.So i wonder,what will you do to keep the virginity of the white female before she reach 18?Just admit it whites men.You can do nothing.Not even scientific research can prevent your race from extinct.Islam & muslims are not your real enemy.I know they are many whites who accept Islam who is profesional by the way.Your still not realise,you had no chance to at the moment to defeat zionist media,economy,etc strangehold.The whites are not devil really,but if they want to keep their extinct culture & heritage,its cool.Whites had their time during colonial period only they did not realise they are just a zionist slavery.Admit it your so call civillised whites.

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Posted by Phil Peterson on April 17, 2006, 03:38 AM | #

Men having consensual sex with women is normal, not perverted.

Men having sex with underage boys is perversion - and that is what your Islamic culture has practiced for hundreds of years.

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Posted by Phil Peterson on April 17, 2006, 03:42 AM | #

Not even scientific research can prevent your race from extinct

What may or may not happen in a hundred years’ time (or even longer) cannot be predicted by anyone based on current trends. You cannot even predict the future five years from now. So to pretend that you have the future all worked out a hundred years ahead is foolhardy at best.

But we shouldn’t be surprised. After all these predictions are coming from People who believe they will get 72 virgins in heaven after blowing up an underground train full of innocent people.

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Posted by Al Ross on April 17, 2006, 03:52 AM | #

There really isnt much to say to this type of hideous Moon-God worshipper, except - have a Third World day - because wherever these pernicious pests exist, Thirdworldisation is as certain as Mohammed’s falsity.

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Posted by Zam Zam on April 17, 2006, 03:58 AM | #

As i said you are ignorant educated whites about Islam.All you know is 9/11/01 tragedy,arab-israeli conflict.Iraq,Taliban and so on.The only whites christian i really respect his point of view is Mr David Duke the ex KKK leader.He visits Syria last year & you should hear his interview with muslim arab journalist.I hope Mr David Duke convert to Islam one day so that he can educate all you ignorant fools and yet claim to be educated so call whites.

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Posted by Phil Peterson on April 17, 2006, 04:02 AM | #

You had better pay a little more attention to what Duke thinks of Arabs as a

race

and how they sit in a position of inferiority to whites. If you did pay the extra attention, you wouldn’t be tooting his name with so much enthusiasm.

I hope Mr David Duke convert to Islam one day so that he can educate all you ignorant fools and yet claim to be educated so call whites.

David Duke is a racialist. Islam is not a racialist religion. Your “hope” that he will convert to Islam is as wishful as the hope for those virgins waiting in heaven for the true believer.

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Posted by Al Ross on April 17, 2006, 04:12 AM | #

David Duke convert to Islam?

Yeah, and Ahmadinejad is going to convert to Judaism.

Well, it cant hurt to hope.

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Posted by Zam Zam on April 17, 2006, 04:30 AM | #

I did not really believe David Duke is racist.If yes,why he comes to Syria?I know what you are.Correct me if i’m wrong,but your view is just like the neo nazis & the KKK.You people expert interpret bibles,claims to invent the world technology and so on but i know other non whites had contribute as well only they did not boast just like you ignorant white racist.Nowadays whether tech invent by muslims or not,it will not be monopolize by whites race anymore.I am glad you people invent modern tech and keep on invent,so that you can start WW3 just like WW2 where so many of your race killing each other.You whites supremacist is actually a pyshopath suffer from mental disorder.I am glad the SPLC, the zionist NACCP,CIA,FBI monitor your movement and multi million lawsuit to bankrupt your organisation.Mr David Duke is a friendly to muslims,whether what you say he is racialist,his personal feelings towards Arabs,cause you are the one who said it not David Duke.

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Posted by Phil Peterson on April 17, 2006, 04:39 AM | #

Correct me if i’m wrong,but your view is just like the neo nazis & the KKK.

LMAO!!

Mate, your brain appears to have become disorinetated. You were cooing about how Duke (a former KKK member) is such a swell guy and then turn around to say that the NeoNazis and KKK are evil.

As for David Duke, you can read his books and his writings. Most of that is available online. Run a search and judge for yourself. If David Duke isn’t a racialist (which is not a derogatory term here by the way), then Im Henry the VIII.

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Posted by Phil Peterson on April 17, 2006, 04:40 AM | #

Lastly, learn to write better English before spouting off here. It will make comprehension easier for all of us.

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Posted by Phil Peterson on April 17, 2006, 04:46 AM | #

I did not really believe David Duke is racist.If yes,why he comes to Syria?

Because he hates Israel.

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Posted by Zam Zam on April 17, 2006, 05:03 AM | #

My english is not very good but as long you understand it is enough.Like yourself,other than english,can you speak and write other lang for example arabic,hebrew,etc.Of course you could not understand a word.Yes,David Duke know what Israeli threat to USA whites culture.Like muslims worldwide,we had legal claims of Palestine that belong to nobody except to Muslims only.Jewish/Zionist are the real threat to us not you so call white christian supremacist.But let me share with you.Your scriptures are english translated.Ours are original source arabic and so on.How many of you christian USA know hebrew/greek language?That is why we can understand your ideology easyly as tip of the iceberg while you had no chance to understand ours.

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Posted by Phil Peterson on April 17, 2006, 05:24 AM | #

Like yourself,other than english,can you speak and write other lang for example arabic,hebrew,etc.

I can speak (broken) German and some French. A bit of Spanish too. That’s good enough for me.

That is why we can understand your ideology easyly as tip of the iceberg while you had no chance to understand ours.

You understand nothing. Your comments in this thread are a confused gibberish. To understand anything about us you will need to read about us. You ain’t getting that from the Hadith.

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Posted by Phil Peterson on April 17, 2006, 05:27 AM | #

Like muslims worldwide,we had legal claims of Palestine that belong to nobody except to Muslims only.

Why do 1.2 Billion Muslims occupying 10-15 percent of the Earth’s landmass care about a tiny slither of land that is probably smaller than the county I live in? The entire size of Israel (even including the occupied territories) is like a spit in the river.

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Posted by Al Ross on April 17, 2006, 05:52 AM | #

“Ours are original source Arabic “

Arrant nonsense is still arrant nonsense(especially in Arabic )and.as the majority of Muslims are illiterate and many of the ones who arent can speak and read only Urdu, Parsi, Turkish or Indonesian, your risible claim is fraudulent.

Then again being illiterate is simply emulating the prophet,Mohamhead.

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Posted by Zam Zam on April 17, 2006, 05:57 AM | #

To answer your question,why do whites occupied 2/3 of the earth landmass worried about non whites migrate in large numbers since 100 years ago?European language contain many muslim arabic origin if you care to make a research, few arabic muslims word are sugar,almanac,coffee,assasin,chemical,algebra and so on.European language whether german,greek,italian,french,english of spanish is a copycat of each other.No wonder all this language when spoken sounds almost the same.One wonder who is speaking gibberish?

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Posted by Al Ross on April 17, 2006, 06:14 AM | #

The Muslim Arabs owe a debt of gratitude to Nestorian Christians who were the vital translators of Hellenic thought into Arabic.
  Left to themselves the Muslims would have got nowhere because of lack of knowledge - much like today.

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Posted by Zam Zam on April 17, 2006, 06:27 AM | #

Oh really?That part i agree.But your stupid research about science and discovery is a modern white christian mentality that you had suffer for decades.Just stop your worthless research about anglo saxon cause it will cause your downfall.You are going to fail in your research cause you white christian are a curse religion as you are today.You had no chance in this world and hereafter.Wait when you died,see how you are going to suffer forever in hell.I gurantee.Cause satan is your guide yesterday,today & tommorow.

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Posted by Phil Peterson on April 17, 2006, 06:28 AM | #

To answer your question,why do whites occupied 2/3 of the earth landmass worried about non whites migrate in large numbers since 100 years ago?

Whites occupy 2/3rds of the World’s landmass? Where did you read your geography? In a Pakistani Madrassa?

European language whether german,greek,italian,french,english of spanish is a copycat of each other.No wonder all this language when spoken sounds almost the same.

That is the most moronic comment I ever heard. That would be like saying Japanese, Korean and Chinese all look the same, sound the same, its all gibberish.

Go back your ghetto now. We have been sufficiently enlightened as to Arab intelligence. More is not now necessary.

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Posted by AD on April 17, 2006, 06:31 AM | #

To answer your question,why do whites occupied 2/3 of the earth landmass worried about non whites migrate in large numbers since 100 years ago?

No idea.

European language contain many muslim arabic origin if you care to make a research, few arabic muslims word are sugar,almanac,coffee,assasin,chemical,algebra and so on.

Good point.

European language whether german,greek,italian,french,english of spanish is a copycat of each other.No wonder all this language when spoken sounds almost the same.

Thought provoking.

One wonder who is speaking gibberish?

Well said and relevant to the issues at hand.

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Posted by Phil Peterson on April 17, 2006, 06:32 AM | #

Wait when you died,see how you are going to suffer forever in hell.I gurantee.Cause satan is your guide yesterday,today & tommorow.

LMAO!!

This proves the point that every Muslim is a closeted psycho with visions of virgins in paradise and torture for the unbeliever.

Here read the Koran comic. We enjoyed this thoroughly.

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Posted by Zam Zam on April 17, 2006, 06:47 AM | #

Ok.That pictures proof nothing.I had been to USA before but i will never encourage muslims to be USA citizens.If they want it,enter at their own risks,so hows that?Do we had a deal?

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Posted by Phil Peterson on April 17, 2006, 06:57 AM | #

The pictures are from France not the USA.

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Posted by Zam Zam on April 17, 2006, 07:20 AM | #

Maybe your judgement about immigrants is correct.Ok,i agree with you to avoid confrontation.But i still had to admit that you know nothing about Islam.I just pretend to be a naive muslims arab just to see how do you react?Lets skip religion cause neither you or me will win in this battle.And you & i know,all this immigrants and muslims problem in the western world had nothing to do with me.I live in my own country & so do you.I think you are right the only solutions to immigrant is for them to be deported as long they illegal,criminal & harmful to the so call white christian civilization.I think this is the kind of solutions you want.But wait a minute,who is going to do it?Govt dept?How many people you can deport each year?I am sure the western govt can afford the costs 100%.I myself did not want to see USA or Europe to turn into bloody wars because of Islam.This immigrant should never in the first place creates trouble in the foreign soil & they should know they are foreigners.If they come to study or as a tourist,i don’t think it cause any harm to anybody.So how that?Do we had a deal?

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Posted by Phil Peterson on April 17, 2006, 07:45 AM | #

Humane repatriation is possible if the political will is there. We are here to build the political will.

The movement to save Europe from extinction is a growing movement. Over time, I think, it will achieve critical mass in politics. At that point a lot will change.

In addition, the future is uncertain. There is the small matter of future energy supplies which no one would be willing to hedge their bets on (I know I wouldn’t) - with Peak Oil in the next decade (to take a very optimistic estimate) a very distinct possibility.

Much of Western indulgence towards immigrants and foreginers is a product of comforts and prosperity. As those things are threatened people’s view of things will change very rapidly.

The one thing that has always amazed me is how quickly American voters, for example, react if the Economy looks even slightly dodgy. To them it matters more than anything else which is perhaps also the reason why they don’t bother about other things. Once we can link the loss of economic prosperity with mass immigration, public opinion will change.

As for religion, I want you to know that I am not a belieiving Christian but an agnostic. I don’t go to church, I don’t pray. And I am left with little choice given what the Church of England has become.

I do not loathe Muslims as people. I know some very fine people who are Muslims. But what I am completely opposed to is religious extremism which seems very common to the Islamic world.

But anyway, if we can agree that the West ought to remain white, then we have agreement and no quarrels. Your religious beliefs are of no concern to me so long as they aren’t trasplated into Europe and our way of life is not sought to be changed to Islamic ways (a process that has picked up pace in the last decade or so).

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Posted by AD on April 17, 2006, 07:48 AM | #

I’m not anti-islam. I have no problem with it until its adherents effect my people in my society. That’s what this thread is about…..the bad effects of multiculturalism: we can’t live together in the same society in peace. Beyond that, i have no interest in getting involved in the affairs of other nations or peoples.

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Posted by Phil Peterson on April 17, 2006, 08:07 AM | #

I’m not anti-islam. I have no problem with it until its adherents effect my people in my society. That’s what this thread is about…..the bad effects of multiculturalism: we can’t live together in the same society in peace. Beyond that, i have no interest in getting involved in the affairs of other nations or peoples.

Agree 100%

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Posted by Zam Zam on April 17, 2006, 08:56 AM | #

Yes,you are correct.Why the whites society in the west should bother about Muslims country running their own affairs.You may criticize as long you westerners believe in freedom of speech.But criticize in positive way and not in attacking Islam as you like cause it cause no sense to argue what we did not know really about.I do agree European & Americas culture and way of life if it is suitable for them for many generations,let them be as they are.Yes,multiculturalism seems to be bad to certain people.To the muslims in Australia,i think just admit you did cause the riots in dec,2005 and nobody even the neo nazis want to confront any bloodshed with you.I think muslims in Australia those who proven criminals,it is right of the whites lead government to deport you or had you been shot.And also if any whites come to muslim country if they violate any law,then similar actions will be taken.Lets see Iraq as example.No whites American really want this war with Iraqi if not by the instigated of the ZOG in Washington DC.And what happen after 3 years,muslims kill,USA soldiers kill,and then what?It is the ZIONIST who laugh at the expense of muslims & whites blood.Am i correct?

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Posted by Phil Peterson on April 17, 2006, 09:46 AM | #

It is the ZIONIST who laugh at the expense of muslims & whites blood.Am i correct?

I won’t start bashing Zionists and Jews but I will say this: if it were up to the people who run this blog, we wouldn’t have any involvement in the Middle East, period.

I do not see why British and American governments have to get themselves entanged in the internal affairs of Muslim states. If the Iranians have a nutty President, that’s their problem - so long as Iran does not threaten our national security.

I am completely opposed to starting wars for spreading so-called “democracy”. If you go through the archives under the title “War on Terror”, there are numerous entries criticising the war in Iraq. We shouldn’t be there. Period. 

I hope you weren’t mistaken into thinking this is a mainstream conservative blog full of Bush supporters. Almost everyone here hates Bush and Blair (for varied reasons).

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Posted by Zam Zam on April 17, 2006, 10:28 AM | #

I told you,look for David Duke website and listen to audio interview with arab journalist.Forget Islam for a moment.Forget white supremacists for a moment.Just listen to David Duke for 1 hours and you can judge yourself.Maybe many Americans claim Duke is ex-kkk and so on.But his view about the ZIONIST cannot be denied.George Bush & Blair is just a pawn of the ZIONIST.Why you keep defending the ZIONIST cause i think you know yourself their historical background & who always claim to be master race of the universe.USA are threaten political,economic,media & so on by the criminal zionists.Look at entertainment industry that is owed by the USA zionist.Blacks are always the victims of white racism,arabs are always the terrorist,indians are the victims of white USA expansion,removal and so on.And who is the master propoganda if not ZIONIST control hollywood.

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Posted by EV, EF, ER on April 17, 2006, 10:45 AM | #

We’ve got no fight with Arabs and Muslims, other than that we don’t want them in our society. And that’s a matter to be settled with the gate-openers.

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Posted by J Richards on April 17, 2006, 03:10 PM | #

To the Muslims who have posted here,

Islam allows Muslims men to rape women that their right hand possesses (slaves) and thereby justifies the rape of non-Muslim women in many scenariosProphet Mohammed had a huge number of wives and concubines, and the holy Prophet Mohammed had sex with a pre-pubescent girl.  Does this not meet the definition of a sexual pervert? 

You are deluded about the sexuality of whites.  Most whites are sexually moral people, but there is greater tolerance in Western societies, which allows greater freedom to the sexually immoral to indulge their passions.  On the other hand, your low intelligence and ignorance make you extrapolate the behavior of prostitutes in pornographic movies to white women in general!  The status of women in Islam is abysmal, and Islam is a disgrace to civilization by virtue of its intolerance and violence, among other things.

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Posted by Steve Edwards on April 17, 2006, 04:47 PM | #

I am having trouble comprehending Zam Zam’s comments, but he seems to be more or less on the right track.
Zam Zam - which country are you from?

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Posted by JB on April 17, 2006, 05:26 PM | #

“In islam, rape is criminal .... (blablabla)”


We don’t have a religion problem we have a race problem. The author, Fjordman, is somewhat of a pro-war pro-Bush naive swede. He always blames muslims and islam but surely he knows that religion doesn’t explain everything as showed by those pictures from France.

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Posted by Guessedworker on April 17, 2006, 06:00 PM | #

I am indebted to Michael R for sending me Fjordman’s article in

Brussells Journal.  It demonstrates some of the naivety to which JB refers, and ends:-

When enough people feel that the system is no longer working and that the social contract has been breached, the entire fabric of democratic society could unravel. What happens when the welfare state system breaks down, and there is no longer enough money to “grease” the increasing tensions between immigrants and native Europeans? And what happens when people discover that their own leaders, through the EU networks and the Euro-Arab Dialogue described by Bat Ye’or in her book “Eurabia,” have been encouraging all these Muslims to settle here in the first place? There will be massive unemployment, and tens of millions of people will feel angry, scared and humiliated, betrayed by the system, by society and by their own democratic leaders. This is a situation in some ways similar to the Great Depression that led to the rise of the Nazis in the 1930s. Is this where we are heading once again, with fear, rising Fascism and political assassinations? The difference is that the “Jewish threat” in the 1930s was entirely fictional, whereas the “Islamic threat” now is very real. However, it is precisely the trauma caused by the events of 70 years ago that is clouding our judgement this time, since any talk at all about the threat posed by Muslim immigration or about preserving our own culture is being dismissed as “the same rhetoric as the Nazis used against the Jews.” Europeans have been taught to be so scared of our own shadows that we are incapable of seeing that darkness can come from the outside, too. Maybe Europe will burn again, in part as a belated reaction to the horrors of Auschwitz.

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Posted by Phil Peterson on April 17, 2006, 06:49 PM | #

Well Fjordman is probably a liberal who has begun his journey rightwards. He needs to keep questioning his beliefs and he will eventually (like the rest of us) find himself where we are now.

But it won’t happen quickly even though he is an obviously intelligent man. De-toxifying the liberal mind is a very difficult business and it is time consuming. His mind still needs a great deal of de-toxification. He is still a liberal at heart, albeit a disillusioned one.

But as he has begun his journey, he must now complete it.

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Posted by Phil Peterson on April 17, 2006, 06:52 PM | #

The difference is that the “Jewish threat” in the 1930s was entirely fictional, whereas the “Islamic threat” now is very real.

Whether there was a “Jewish threat” or not, there was certainly a Bolshevik threat hovering all over Europe which even had Winston Churchill singing praises for Mussolini.

The 1930s movements were not creations of a hallucinating people. There was a very real threat (which right or wongly was linked to the Jews as a people) to which people responded.

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Posted by Andrew on April 17, 2006, 11:32 PM | #

Zam Zam , said he is Malayan, which is an exellent point in fact, perhaps Zam can explain to us what national socialism is?
Considering that in the last twelve months, the Malayan Government has instituted full on National socialist laws, perhaps Zam can explain what racism is? And what happens if people, although Asian, but not Malayan Nationals, what happens to them now, and then consider that Malayan Government has also introduced strict religious definitions, that on par to the Wahabbi sect; Saudi Arabia. Banning publications of the Bible know doubt.
Best read Frederic’s post further on up the commentary, and that is the commonality with Islamic philosophical approach. Pantheistic Leftism. See Spinoza.
Sounds like full on National Socialism to me, with a Muhammadian twist: and then consider by Zams definition of Zionist, Well there are about 1 and a Half Billion running around in China-Tibet, and maybe Taiwan. National socialists and Communist do not really see eye to eye and Zam Zam is a lot closer to the action than we will ever be.
When he explains what the Government has instituted in Malaya, who knows, he might even gain a fan club. confused

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Posted by Al Ross on April 18, 2006, 01:17 AM | #

Malaysia’s uniquely race-based politics are ‘sui generis’.

In view of the large number of Chinese in the country, perhaps that should be’ chop sui generis’.

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Posted by Guessedworker on April 18, 2006, 03:28 AM | #

Too good, Al.  Can’t top that one.

Well, if Fjordman is “somewhat pro-war pro-Bush” and can’t see race, perhaps we should ask if his ethnicity is indeed wholly Swedish.

There seems to be a category of writer, often but not always with access to the mainstream, who is able to write part of the story - even sometimes most of it - but never quite the logical whole.  The missing element, usually, is the perfect right of European people to restore their homelands to themselves, and to live thereafter in peace as they please.

The easiest way for a writer to evade this logical end-product of all the rest of it, is to fail to see race.  They substitute words like “immigration” (especially if it is “illegal”) and “Islam” instead.  These are still important words, but they are not the same.

In some instances, as with Rob Liddell and Anthony Browne, it might simply be that these writers are liberals, recovering or otherwise.  In others, like Larry Auster, Dr Anthony Daniels and Mark Steyn, it might be that a competing ethnic loyalty effects a kind of mentis interruptus.

The acid test as to which category a given writer belongs to is his attitude to the WoT and brave lil Israel, if no other obvious marker is available.

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Posted by Daud Kadir on April 18, 2006, 09:39 AM | #

Women in the west is pervert mentality society.When they are born normal,most of them lost their virginity or commit incest within their family structure.Whether they are christian or atheist,they are train to be wild by their fantasy culture before they reach adulthood.Hardly any of them know how to manage home,children or to cook before the get married.Then they want to do all the male sports.Then with all the porno industry keep looking for new faces,they are the majority to offer themselves without any hesitation cause the good money been offer.Unlike muslim women,even they are involve in bizarre sex,they knew their limitation.Women in the west always demand so many rights like lesbo,feminism and so on.I think women in the west should not hold many profesional field cause their womanhood is now almost to the destructions.Leave the profesional field entirely at men hand.And there is no such things as rape permitted in Islam.Women in the west no need to look for muslims men as perpetrator.Most western women unfortunately white skin whether married or divorce will look for a black male to satisfy their sexual need.Why?I leave that to you.And that is the philosophy they are going to pass to their daughter.They are many whites muslim in Turkey or Arab country but we never call them whites.Not many of them are rape by muslims male annually.

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Posted by Al Ross on April 18, 2006, 09:49 AM | #

Any Far East expat who has visited the flesh pots of Jakarta’s Block M, can expatiate for hours on the merits of Muslim whores.

Many Muslim women enter the oldest profession because their low-IQ ‘mamma’s-boy’ husbands divorce them for the most trivial and spurious pretexts.

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Posted by Abdul Mustafe on April 18, 2006, 10:29 AM | #

I agree with Daud Kadir completely.For those atheists fool who say Islam permits rape,well i think look at your own society.You say most whites are sexually moral but allow sexual immoral to indulge their passions.That is the proof that sexual pervert are encourage in the western world.Then those no hoppers whites are concern about race mixing,low child birth among whites,heritage and so on.Your govt agency in USA can’t even stop millions of Mexican crossing illegally in your border,not to say since the civil rights act in 1965,whites power had reduced,now you are looking for muslims to be spacegoat at your social problem.Whites are only roughly 8% of world pop.No muslims really want to occupied Europe or America actually.Of course the crusaders war still haunted the modern whites mind nowadays.The only land muslims want is the asian zone of Russia.To occupied Europe or USA is worthless effort.Russia is a large continent with only 160m people.And even Russian millitary might cannot defeat muslim of turks of caucasius region permanently.Cause all Russian European had no historical rights to that territory.Just like the afrikaner in SA,i think they should be expel completely cause they had enough wealth since the last 4 century.Now it is the time for blacks & asians to take control every single inch of land for themselves.Not prejudice.But fair and square since the whites of Europe & USA are preaching day and night to expel non whites,blacks,muslim and asian from their ancestors soil.

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Posted by Al Ross on April 18, 2006, 10:57 AM | #

“I agree with Daud Kadir completely” is proof of the Latin tag, ‘Asinus Asinum Fricat’.

Muslims are flatulently inflated with their false religiosity which serves as a substitute for intelligence and provides them with the fantasy of imagined moral superiority.

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Posted by Phil Peterson on April 18, 2006, 04:11 PM | #

I am delighted that we have had so many Muslims and Arab Muslims at that who have commented here. The allegation that white women are “whores” chimes in with what we have said all along: these barbarians don’t belong in OUR civilized society.

So all you enlightened devotees of Allah, go back to buggering little boys and blowing up buses and traisn with suicide bombs. With every such incident you are winning more support for us in the West. Good on you, I say.

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Posted by Guessedworker on April 18, 2006, 04:50 PM | #

If morality is such a big deal in Islamoland what do these guys want with 72 virgins in paradise?

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Posted by Al Ross on April 18, 2006, 09:50 PM | #

Phil.

  I think that pitching Allah-jabber to the low-average IQ Third World Muslim dolts is made much easier if the dupes believe that they are going to experience the lubricious adolescent fantasy of 72 virgins in ‘paradise’. Also because the pedophile propagator of Islam understood his fellow Arabs well, boys are also available in ‘heaven’, as is wine. Bottoms up!

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Posted by Abdul Mustafe on April 19, 2006, 12:24 AM | #

Regarding about muslim had low IQ,illeterate and low intelligence does not means a thing.Muslims country outside Arab league like turkey,indonesia,pakistan and so on although arabic is not their mother tongue,most of them are taught Islamic studies when they are in primary school until they are in univercities.Most of them can read and write arabic only they had a problems of speaking.Why?Cause all this country want to preserve their language in their respective country.Even in country like Indonesia, science & technology subjects at universities level either taught in english or malay.But of course they are rooms for improvement in spreading Arabic at this country.There are so many muslims profesional graduates in this country like doctors,accountant,engineers and so on.So are they also low IQ,low intelligence and barbaric.Of course you will say they are.But i thing you no hoppers white are low IQ,unintelligent and illeterate.No hoppers white genetic and geneology are proven self declare inferiority complex.

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Posted by Omar Shariff on April 19, 2006, 01:29 AM | #

Muslims pop is growing in USA.By 2010,est muslims will be 50m out 300m in USA.Then out of miracles,muslims are elected Governor in all 11 southern states.Then the process of Islamisation implement in all southern states.All cities and town will change into arabic origin.All subjects from schools,college & universities are taught 50/50 equal basis arabic & english.Then church and bank are turn into mosque and Islamic bank.Then the KKK,NAZIS,WHITE PATRIOT and so on cease to exist cause their struggle are no longer needed.Then the music in Radio are 24hour a day play arabic songs only.A study of white racialist in USA.First they are staunch christians.Then they become racist.Then they become secular and atheist.Then they become sosial democrats.But when all that fail,they turn into democracy.When all that fail,they commit suicide in large numbers.When that fail,they start to burn christians and political science books.When that fail also cause they are losing grips on power,political and economic,they had to migrate back into Europe.I just wonder if whites are 72% of USA pop 2005,why there are greeks american,italian american association & so on.Admit it you whites moron,racialist,redneck & beneath contempt,your planning to saves USA as white predominant nations is a as good as dead.

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Posted by Andrew on April 19, 2006, 03:19 AM | #

And then What Omar? Iraq, Iran, Somalia:
OOOOyeh baby looking forward to that. I thought Drugs were forbidden in Islam, or are you just a culture of tripping Opioids naturally {Neurology), fantasizing about universalism.
I would think you have a better chance at getting your 72 virgins and your 28 pre pubescent boys under Allah than your expectation of world dominance, or are you a Hollywood script writer?
What do you do when they are not virgins any more?
Or one thing Allah left out: and that is, you are the virgins, yes now we are talking. But you guys did not know that. Know wonder squealing like a pig and pigs are banned, that’s the noise you make when Allah gets hold of you. He did not want to spoil his fun.  Allah is a Funny fellow, and his old trick of reverse psychology works on you Infidels every time. Just ask Mohammad!
LOL

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Posted by Omar Shariff on April 19, 2006, 04:26 AM | #

Whites USA are allowed in their culture to consume alcohol,to eat porks and dogs as their companions.And then they are sexual pervert.One example is the f…. words.It is transplant into their minds from music,movie and so on.No wonder whites woman around the world when they had horse stable,they like to play with it cause the white male are no longer sexual active.Whites people are not hardworking community.They only know how to complain at immigrants and foreigners.And then their culture allowed them to had only one wives.Polygamy is porhibited.No wonder surplus of whites women in Europe and USA are turning to the blacks male,vibrator and farms animals cause not sufficient white males available.Just open the porn websites,and see what this whites woman had in mind regarding their sexual pervert.Am i correct?I wonder what their parents had to say about that?Of course they could do nothing & not even lawsuit is allowed cause all this woman are volunteer to be rapes infront of the camera.Whites go and educate your woman.And if you can’t,just join the losing side.

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Posted by Phil Peterson on April 19, 2006, 05:56 AM | #

Keep going Omar. You guys are doing us a big favour. Don’t hold back. (chuckle)

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Posted by Steve Edwards on April 19, 2006, 05:57 AM | #

“But i thing you no hoppers white are low IQ,unintelligent and illeterate.”

You know, you really shouldn’t provide people like me with such a large target to aim at.

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Posted by Phil Peterson on April 19, 2006, 05:58 AM | #

I think that pitching Allah-jabber to the low-average IQ Third World Muslim dolts is made much easier if the dupes believe that they are going to experience the lubricious adolescent fantasy of 72 virgins in ‘paradise’. Also because the pedophile propagator of Islam understood his fellow Arabs well, boys are also available in ‘heaven’, as is wine. Bottoms up!

LMAO!! True!

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Posted by Steve Edwards on April 19, 2006, 05:59 AM | #

Say Omar - don’t forget to gloat about how Muslims are going to take over all European countries when they get the chance!

We are going to save this correspondence, you realise.

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Posted by Zam Zam on April 19, 2006, 06:40 AM | #

To Mr Phil Peterson,you know i am muslims and Islam condems racism.But i want to know why the biologist in USA since 19th century keep on making research about blond hair,blue eyes and so on.Then they make a scientific discovery about skin colour.I would like to hear from you?I think you and me can becomes friends.

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Posted by Phil Peterson on April 19, 2006, 07:50 AM | #

Islam condems racism

Well that’s not entirely accurate. Islam has no concept of race. It is a religion that was founded by an Arab and given to a bunch of Arab tribes.

The duty of the true believer to convert by persuasion or force meant that eventually Arabs converted lots of people who were different from themselves racially. And since the worst thing in Islam is to be an unbeliever, race becomes irrelevant.

It would be more accurate if you said Islam condemns “racism” of say a white Muslim against a black Muslim.

The whole point about race is that it is a “this-wordly” phenomenon. Islam never gets into the race issue because all the promised pleasures are in the afterlife.

But i want to know why the biologist in USA since 19th century keep on making research about blond hair,blue eyes and so on.

Because blue eyed blonde women are the global standard of beauty. And this isn’t just a blonde Englishman saying it, millions of people who aren’t blue eyed and blonde also say that (as evidenced by the enormous numbers of blonde women in Hollywood etc).

Western society does not concern itself solely with the after-life (although believing Christians do but not exclusively). Since the concern is not solely with the afterlife, our curiosity shifts to things that occur in this world - commerce, science, genetics etc. 

I think you and me can becomes friends.

By all means. On this thread I only ever let out vitriol when your fellow Muslims have been abusive by referring to white women as “sluts” or “perverts” etc. If abuse isn’t thrown at us, the interlocutor will be treated with politeness. Simple as that really.

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Posted by Zam Zam on April 19, 2006, 09:39 AM | #

Well if that what you say,i can’t blame you cause you are non believer.We muslims believe Nabi Muhammad SAW is the last & final messenger of god to mankind.Many ignorant westerners alleged that Islam is spread by the sword.There is no compulsion in religion.And this so call war of Islam against infidel is not true at all.Jihad is an arabic word but it is not as alleged in the west that war with agression and expansion territory.But we muslims had been warn that neither the christians or jews will satisfy with you until you follow their religion.And yes our concept of Islamic government is different from the west.Of course we muslims are not taught to be thinking in life after death.In Islam there two key knowledge that aqliyah & naqliah.Aqliyah is like Al Quran,Hadith,Arabic,Sharia & Laws.Naqliah is medicine,economy,technology and so on.Both this must understood by muslims worldwide.Sometimes your ignorant comment about muslims martyr like Hamas freedom fighter will had 72 virgins in paradise.That is very absurd.All i know is those martyr against the enemy god will forgive all its sin in life except to her mother and his debt to society.I know they are fanatics muslim but this people are fasik among muslims.Fasik means going to the extreme without aware of the consequences.This group are monitor closely by the muslim country of home ministry.

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Posted by ben tillman on April 19, 2006, 10:26 AM | #

But we muslims had been warned that neither the christians nor jews will be satisfied with you until you follow their religion.

But there is some truth in that, just as there is some truth in the claim that Muslims will not be satisfied until Christians and Jews follow Islam.  That is the nature of monotheism.  Both Christianity and Islam have their roots in monotheistic Judaism, a religion of aggression and empire-building.  We in the realms of Christendom and Islam need to eradicate that legacy of aggression if we are to co-exist peacefully.

I (and many other Westerners) would be satisfied with a henotheistic agreement whereby Muslims and Christians mind their own business in their own countries.

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Posted by Steve Edwards on April 19, 2006, 02:33 PM | #

“Many ignorant westerners alleged that Islam is spread by the sword…”

Okay - so hand back Constantinople, Alexandria, Damascus and Antioch immediately, and I might believe a single word you say.

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Posted by Steve Edwards on April 19, 2006, 02:51 PM | #

“But we muslims had been warn that neither the christians or jews will satisfy with you until you follow their religion…”

Rest assured, the warning is false. The only religion that certain people (such as President Bush) really want you to follow is the false religion of Democracy. Don’t worry - at this site we do not believe that anyone has the right to forcibly impose “Democracy” on anyone else. I really don’t care how Muslims conduct their lives, so long as it precludes aggression against life and property of myself and my confederates.

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Posted by SteveEdwards on April 19, 2006, 03:16 PM | #

Anyhow - what this exchange drives home is that there is a need for ongoing dialogue between realistic Europeans and Muslims (by this I mean anti-race-replacement Euros and Muslims). There are undeniable common interests that can be emphasised and built upon (and I think we have an idea as to what those interests are, or at least where to begin to look), as well as historical differences. I don’t think this issue has been explored properly to date.

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Posted by Alex Zeka on April 19, 2006, 03:25 PM | #

Anyhow - what this exchange drives home is that there is a need for ongoing dialogue between realistic Europeans and Muslims (by this I mean anti-race-replacement Euros and Muslims)-Steve

Steady on there, mate. You’ll give our neocon, JJR, a heart attack!

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Posted by Steve Edwards on April 19, 2006, 03:44 PM | #

Sorry - I forgot about NWO-man JJR.

Here is his blog BTW - note the photo in the top left corner:

http://dissectleft.blogspot.com

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Posted by Phil Peterson on April 19, 2006, 05:18 PM | #

A good article on the disastrous legacy of the second Bush.

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Posted by Ahmad Kadir on April 19, 2006, 05:24 PM | #

This section about Islam on your website should be deleted.Your uncivillised whites had no authority to speak about Islam.Keep on going into your propoganda that claims to invent the 20th century technology like telephone,tv,radio,computer,aeroplanes and so on.Ok,you had proof.No objections.Oh really.I did not had to argue with you about this cause we muslims know who is the pioneer of science and technology.Just keep on your research about genealogy about the aryans race and so on.Your women are ugly as hell.With make up,breast silicone,dirty pussy and ugly skin,i think the whites will be roasted if they expose to the sun within 6 hours.I think you rubbish whites in the southern states are on the way of extinctions.The only things keep you going is to play the race card survival cause all other options is closed permanently.Scientists,biologists and historians in the muslim world make a discovery about whites mentality at USA that had IQ like monkey,sexual pervert,genetic disease,low immune antibody,illiterate cause only know to read mixed words english and on way to race suicide.Your contributions to mankind while appreciate are but like a filthy rags.Admit man.Your race are low class among asians,africans and latino.As Clint Eastwood said,whites had no culture in USA originally except jazz and cowboy movie.Sonner or later,asians,africans and latino will outnumber whites 7-1 in 2010.With affirmative actions,all historical schools,college and universities adminstration completely in their hands,your low life whites can become a slavery of modern technology inventions only.Enough.We had enough of your tv,films & music.This are nothing except entertainment in the short terms.Nobody really likes your worthless movie and music actually.It is you busy body who is exporting this to other nations.I wonder why the blacks not see eye to eye with whites pigs,oh sorry you atheist white did eat ham everyday since they are brought into slavery in America since 17th century.Hahahahahahahahaha.Statistics since 1965-2005 show more than 1million whites kill by blacks and others.I hope they keep killing you people cause your stupid history of civil war and independence war in 1776 is just a yesterday news.Enough,we had enough of your educated retarded whites comment here.More race mixing is encourage by the USA Government in DC cause it is a briliant strategy to genocide whites in total in USA.

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Posted by Al Ross on April 19, 2006, 05:43 PM | #

Race-mixing should be a subject of interest to so-called Arabs, the vast majority of whom are mongrels with only the Saudis and a few Jordanian Bedouins representing the true Arab race per se. As these two groups are rather keen on the backward Muslim practice of consanguinity, we should not be surprised that the genetic result of this tribal unwisdom is mental retardation of a type most often observed among Arab Muslims (and other Muslims of the lower races, tautologically speaking) whether racially pure or not.

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Posted by Ahmad Kadir on April 19, 2006, 08:51 PM | #

Dear Mr White Supremacist Al Ross,can you please explain why the multi million porno industry whether hetero,homos,bisex and interacial are allowed since 1960s since vcr,vcd,dvd and now White supremacist latest invention internet in the last century?I am backward muslims,your help is much appreciate.I would to hear your comment.

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Posted by Al Ross on April 19, 2006, 10:24 PM | #

Ahmad Kadir is not the only Muslim commentator to make mention of porn, a subject which I suspect may be dear to the hearts of Islam’s adherents.

Porn, you see, is fantasy and we know that low IQ people, like Muslims for example, experience some difficulty separating such stuff of Arab wet-dreams from the mundane reality of an arranged marriage to a fat moustachiod cousin.

The real world in the time of the so-called Prophet (who raped his victims after killing their families in front of them) was, for the first time, the recipient of the only ‘holy’ book to contain justifications for rape and sexual slavery.

In emulation of the Prophet’s grand tradition, the Iraqis, upon entering Kuwait, not only raped the women but also treated boys in a similar fashion. One trusts that the goats were spared but I wouldnt bet money on it.

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Posted by Ahmad Kadir on April 20, 2006, 02:22 AM | #

Mr Supremacist Al Ross,what states are you kmow?Actually many muslims don’t give a shit about porno industry that feature white women sexual pervert.Actually we enjoy watching see you whites mother,sister & daughter eat a shitload of human & animals sperm every scene everyday.We don’t give a damm if you want to go nude at the beach everyday cause you are darwin monkey mentality.We don’t give a damm of your culture and your way of life.The only reason i reply cause it seems you nuts are concern about muslims and Islam worldwide.So since USA is freedom of speech gurantee,so its my right to comment.I had many whites american non muslims friends worldwide.When they become muslim without any compulsion,most of them say white idiots like you are a disgrace to you whites civilisation.Your culture had nothing to be admired.Just ask,they will tell you.So i suggest you find whites muslim in your city.

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Posted by Al Ross on April 20, 2006, 02:40 AM | #

When a Christian becomes a Muslim, that event raises the average IQ of both groups.

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Posted by Phil Peterson on April 20, 2006, 03:10 AM | #

This has been a most fruitful exchange, wouldn’t you say Al? A good cultural exchange without any illusions or fluff. The other side expressing its true beliefs.

So all you western readers watching this thread, THIS is what our politicians are importing.

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Posted by Mahmud Kalam on April 20, 2006, 03:12 AM | #

Mr white supremacist Al Ross,among all the non muslims commentator here,your comment seem to be full of hatred against muslim and Islam.I think your should be charged at court for hate crimes.Mr White Supremacist,from my personal view since you confederates had been beaten in 1861-1865 civil war,since reconstruction era until KKK are regard as by many Americans as lunatic fringe which produce Timothy Supremacist that blow Oklahoma building in 1995.since President LBJ sign civil rights act in 1965,since affirmative actions based on merits,since race riots from 1917-2001 in USA,since KKK last known victim Malcolm Donald a nigger according to white supremacist terminology lynching by Henry Hays who since executed in the electric chair 6 june,1997 and subsequent civil lawsuit resulted 7m us judgement that bankrupt one klan group & encourage trend the decentralization & retreat of the klan in late 20th century,since Martin Luther King is holiday in USA which southern whites claim a disgrace cause Martin Luther is pervert and communist,since many mexican demand more culture,language and employment rights,since USA ZOG rule DC since 1945 support multiculture that replace whites is the real founder of USA,what is your Mr supremacist next course of political actions.Oh don’t worry,i’m not USA citizens,neither SPLC or NACCP,i would like to hear your comment.

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Posted by Phil Peterson on April 20, 2006, 03:17 AM | #

Porn, you see, is fantasy and we know that low IQ people, like Muslims for example, experience some difficulty separating such stuff of Arab wet-dreams from the mundane reality of an arranged marriage to a fat moustachiod cousin.

LOL!!

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Posted by Phil Peterson on April 20, 2006, 03:19 AM | #

Mahmud Kalam,

You seem to share the low IQ of all your cousins who commented on this thread.

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Posted by Phil Peterson on April 20, 2006, 03:26 AM | #

Race-mixing should be a subject of interest to so-called Arabs, the vast majority of whom are mongrels with only the Saudis and a few Jordanian Bedouins representing the true Arab race per se.

Most Arabs have significant amounts of Negro admixture (and some are actually predominantly black - lots of Moroccans fall under this category). Slavery was a thriving business in the ME for thousands of years and during this time millions of black Africans were caught and sold into slavery. This resulted in significant admixture with the Arab populations that practiced slavery.

There is something grotesquely funny about these Muslims telling us about race mixing. Race mixing (especially with blacks) in the west is limited to slutty low IQ women. Race mixing in Islam occurs with the full sanction and piety of religion!

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Posted by Andrew on April 20, 2006, 03:28 AM | #

Zam Zam, You have quite a unique name, and I would suppose your Mum and Dad had some insight into the future, but if you did not know it, you share a name of an Ancient God. Yes, Asman and Zam, the Gods of the sun and Moon, Now hang on here a minute, Allah was actually a Moon god for the Bedouins, well before Mohammad, and if I remember, the moon god had two kids, the names escape me. Those bloody Arabs again, they did not tell you that?

Islam is the greatest racist cult on the face of the planet, you stated it before, Language – Arabic, yes, that is the Elite Islam, all other Islamic followers are scum just like us Kaffers, Sudanese are Black Moslems, and the Arab Moslems are slaughtering them like they were sheep. Every Middle Eastern country hates each other’s Guts and slaughter themselves like they were all dogs, Islam or not. So it is that Post Modern Solipsism again playing on your mind in all its delusional glories. You Racist Supremacist Piggy – you- you are a nasty bit of work Ah- Mad, just like Mah-um- I am mad, I think some one is telling you something

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Posted by Phil Peterson on April 20, 2006, 03:29 AM | #

Black American actor James Earl Jones with Saudi Prince Bandar. Who is blacker?

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Posted by Phil Peterson on April 20, 2006, 03:52 AM | #

As that picture of the Prince shows, significant black admixture has seeped into the highest levels of Arab society. The fact that an obivously African man (with predominant African ancestry) is now a Saudi prince indicates that miscegenation is rampant.

The black Prince will probably have a few dozen light skinned Arab wives and then produce legions of little mulatto boys who will all enjoy the full comforts and wealth of the Arab monarchy.

So much for Islamic lectures on race mixing!

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Posted by Ahmad Jibrail on April 20, 2006, 04:07 AM | #

Oh,this is really white supremacist website.No wonder you keep supporting each other.Anyway,what are you white supremacist major in is it white supremacist language & degeneration arts in Harvard.Mr supremacist can you compose a song for us cause we like to hear your composition.Mr not so Supremacist Phil Peterson,what is your job actually?Hey,i heard Mr Ultra Supremacist Al Ross had not reply to the question by Mahmud Kalam.Oh man ,this is really southern rednecks ideology.I would like to hear Mr Ultra Supremacist Al ross to reply.Mr not so supremacist just keep quiet.

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Posted by Phil Peterson on April 20, 2006, 04:15 AM | #

Ahmad Jibrail,

I had no idea people in prisons were also allowed internet access these days. (chuckle)

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Posted by Getafix on April 20, 2006, 04:16 AM | #

Ahmad Kadir is not the only Muslim commentator to make mention of porn, a subject which I suspect may be dear to the hearts of Islam’s adherents.

Frankly, I think that there are only two separate Muslim commentators on this thread, Zam Zam and Daud/Ahmad/Mahmud (who is clearly the same person as all of these pseudonyms manifest a remarkably high consistency in particular spelling and grammatical errors). This second character is an interesting one, a clear addict of pornography who seems utterly incapable of recognising that porno is not exactly representative of reality. What a tangled ball of resentment, crazed lust, ignorance and anger he presents, no?

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Posted by Andrew on April 20, 2006, 04:19 AM | #

Well, any person that can think and still recognize a threat:
Then read this transcript from a Moslem Gathering two weeks ago in Bankstown:
http://democracyfrontline.org/news/?p=387

If anyone still has any doubts. Just jump off the nearest cliff, and save the oxygen.
This is from the Elite Supremacist Moslems, and their own words, not mine or anyone else’s. Ignore it at your peril, The warning alarms have been sounding for many years.

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Posted by Phil Peterson on April 20, 2006, 04:31 AM | #

Getafix,

There aren’t two but only one commenter on these threads (among the Allah devotees). And that commenter is obviously using anonymiser which changes the last of the four figures in the PC’s IP address as it logs into the site.

Here are their IP addresses:

Ahmad Yassin/Zam Zam - 210.195.234.43

Daud Kadir - 210.195.234.36

Mustafe - 210.195.234.18

Omar Sharif - 210.195.234.1

Ahmad Kadir - 210.195.234.5 and 210.195.234.47

Mahmud Kalam - 210.195.234.47

As you can see, in all these IP addresses the first three sets of figures are identical. Anonymiser (or equivalent) changes the last entry.

A lot of trolls in the past have done it in a similar way. We had a troll called “Simon” who flouted the ban initially by just changing the last set of figures (out of 4) in his IP address and managed to keep commenting. I then banned his IP address to include all alternations to the last figure.

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Posted by Phil Peterson on April 20, 2006, 04:33 AM | #

Lastly IP address for Ahmad Jibrail - 210.195.234.24

He is also the same user.

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Posted by Zam Zam on April 20, 2006, 04:36 AM | #

Hi my friends,Phil.How are you today?What is this war going on with this white supremacist?

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Posted by Al Ross on April 20, 2006, 04:50 AM | #

Yes, Phil, as you noted - a full and frank exchange of views.

Your quip about internet access in prisons was priceless.

I seriously doubt whether Mahmud (or indeed any other mud) would like to hear my comment.

It is surprising that the Muslim troll didnt attempt to confuse us( the time-honoured Arab Taqiyya and Kitman strategy) by posting his entire content under the name Mohammed, but then he is of a species which does most of its thinking with its glands, by-passing the cerebral organ for which they have little use after they have been Islamically programmed.

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Posted by Nio Zilda on April 20, 2006, 05:06 AM | #

All of them the same guy? Really, you don’t say. confused
Re mulatto arabs, I believe there is a native negroid element in southern Arabia, so such mulattoes are not necessarily descended from recently introduced African slaves.

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Posted by Chester Nimitz on April 20, 2006, 05:29 AM | #

Well i don’t know what you people argue about this muslims,islam,supremacist or what?It this articles is about bashing people religion and so on,don’t be suprise it will be censored.Who is right or wrong,is not the question.I think just find other online game.More fun than this nonsense.

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Posted by Phil Peterson on April 20, 2006, 05:33 AM | #

“Chester Nimitz” also happens to be the same user.

Logged IP address: 210.195.234.26

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Posted by Zam Zam on April 20, 2006, 05:48 AM | #

First,there is not one user but 3 persons using the same IP address.We are in the same office.We are not in prisons and we are not in USA.To Mr Al Ross,I would like to apologize from the bottom of my heart if any previous comment sounds offensive.I would like to hear seriously your comment about the question by Mahmud Kalam?Will you accept my apology on their behalf?

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Posted by Steve Edwards on April 20, 2006, 09:31 AM | #

I am beginning to wonder if we should ban Zam Zam. He had some useful things to say, but has now taken the form of a foul-mouthed troll. We really shouldn’t allow this blog to be polluted with such filth.

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Posted by Phil Peterson on April 20, 2006, 10:24 AM | #

Ive banned him.

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Posted by Phil Peterson on April 20, 2006, 10:27 AM | #

Steve,

We’ve had a bit of a fun with a double digiter after quite some time. Im now ondering if we should delete all of his posts. They are worthless rants anyway.

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Posted by Steve Edwards on April 20, 2006, 11:56 AM | #

I’m not sure - there is a good case for preserving his words in perpetuity. We do want people to discover what certain non-Euros are saying, now don’t we?

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Posted by Phil Peterson on April 20, 2006, 01:06 PM | #

Yep. I agree with that.

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Posted by JB on April 20, 2006, 07:47 PM | #

Daud Kadir:

Women in the west no need to look for muslims men as perpetrator.

yes it’s not like the rapists are devout religious men, a lot of them are just a bunch of apostates whose parents forgot to beat them every day with the Koran:

http://www.cphpost.dk/get/62605.html

Alarmed at last week’s police statistics, which revealed that in 68% of all rapes committed this year the perpetrator was from an ethnic minority, leading Muslim organisations have now formed an alliance to fight the ever-growing problem of young second and third-generation immigrants involved in rape cases against young Danish girls. Promising demonstrations and an information campaign, Babar Baig from Minhaj ul Quran said that Islam totally condemns rape and the violation of women. ‘We feel very strongly that as a Muslim youth organisation, we have a responsibility to speak out about this problem,’ said Baig, whose organisation, alongside the Union of Muslim Students (FASM) and the Organisation of Pakistani Students and Academics (OPSA) announced demonstrations in Copenhagen, Odense and Århus.

Perhaps in Egypt, Morocco, etc. these young p.o.s. wouldn’t rape women but they do on European soil. Fjordman’s cultural explanation is that they are so full of contempt for white women because one thing they got from their islamic culture heritage was that they have to despise women who don’t bow before their coarse masculinity, so they feel like they have to rape them to assert their dominance. However my racial explanation fits the facts better because arabs aren’t the only ones who like to gang rape white women, young africans show the same interest.

Raping white women in a white country makes them feel good about themselves, it’s a small victory in the larger racial conflict. That’s why they like to do it in group.

These are the somalians who attacked Linda and her friend:
http://www.nordischeshilfswerk.org/senestenyt.php?artikelid=80

These are Mary-Ann Leneghan’s murderers:
http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,70131-1215930,00.html?f=rss

Ahmad:

Nobody really likes your worthless movie and music actually.It is you busy body who is exporting this to other nations.

it’s not our movies and music. Gee I thought all of you ragheads knew Hollywood and the music biz was jewish

Abdul:

Your govt agency in USA can’t even stop millions of Mexican crossing illegally in your border, not to say since the civil rights act in 1965, whites power had reduced, now you are looking for muslims to be spacegoat at your social problem.

There’s no real muslim problem in America besides terrorism and even where it is a problem - in Europe - it’s not a muslim problem per se it’s an arab+african problem. I have never heard an american blame muslims for their social problems.

And in case you haven’t realized it yet : it wasn’t us the racist white nationalists who sent our armies in your countries it was our treasonous governments, the same governments you can thank for allowing your kind to settle in our lands. In a sense we have a common enemy but you’re too dumb to understand that

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Posted by JB on April 20, 2006, 07:53 PM | #

“...and even where it is a problem - in Europe -...”

I forgot Australia

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Posted by Phil Peterson on April 21, 2006, 03:49 AM | #

Fred and JB,

I think you are right in saying that the picture is complicated. Because for example, a black muslim is still a black man and will have the same propensity to commit rape as all non-Muslim black men do.

But I think religion does play an important role. In Britain for example, the violent crime rates for, say, Sikhs, Hindus or Ethnic Chinese is tiny (actually a fraction of the white rate) whereas for Pakistanis (who are Muslim) it is high.

I think the explanation here would be that Islam creates a culture which completely destroys human creativity (and this probably explains why Muslim immigrants in the West have been stuck at the bottom of the economic ladder for years). The people who form gangs in ghettos are usually worthless bums who have nothing to lose by being arrested. In addition, the status of women in Islam is such that anything resembling freedom for women is taken as a sign of her being a “whore”. This combination of economic backwardness (a lawyer or a banker would have a lot more to lose if convicted of a crime than a worthless bum living off the welfare state) and contempt for the female results in Muslim gang rapes.

That is not to say that race is not important as you showed with those examples. Black males will be black males no matter what their religion and will continue to commit crimes at several times the white rate.

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Posted by Phil Peterson on April 21, 2006, 03:57 AM | #

My guess would also be that Morocco’s Negroes and mulattoes aren’t going around raping Moroccan girls back home.  So there must be at least in part a cultural cause of the raping they do in the West:  some cultural factor back home restrains them, one we can deduce is absent in Western Europe since they’re unrestrained.

The “cultural” causes are not difficult to establish. In places like Morocco most women live in fear of sexual harrassment and therefore less easy to rape. In addition, a rape will probably result in some form of family vengenace. That acts as a deterrent to some degree.

Here we have liberals infesting every corner of the law and order machinery. We have judges who give laughably light sentences and police who are scared of chasing ethnic criminals. The result is that most of the ghetto bums develop absolute contempt for the law. Sweden is a good example of that. For fifty years they have lived under the delusion that you can wish away crime by not punishing anyone. This worked when Sweden was 100 percent white.

Pretty soon the stupid Swedes will discover that the only way they can continue to live in peace in their own country without fear of being molested by criminals is if they bring in extremely harsh American style prosecution and sentences for even petty crimes and fill up their prisons with coloureds. There is a remarkable irony in all of that when you think that the Swedes (and other Europeans swimming in moral vanity) lectured Americans for being “racist” etc (“Racist” for imprisoning criminals, who were disproportionately black, and not mollycoddling them with state provided goodies) but now find that multicultural experiment will require them to copy American methods.

There is no solution here of course. Ultimately, all these aliens will have to be deported. There is no other way.

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Posted by Phil Peterson on April 21, 2006, 04:05 AM | #

And in case you haven’t realized it yet : it wasn’t us the racist white nationalists who sent our armies in your countries it was our treasonous governments, the same governments you can thank for allowing your kind to settle in our lands. In a sense we have a common enemy but you’re too dumb to understand that

The Muslims who have immigrated into Western nations have ethnic interests that are as opposed to our ethnic interests as the ethnic interests of blacks and other minorities. There is no way to splice this. When push comes to shove people will stick with their own interests. No Muslim immigrant will agree to repatriation. When repatriation is proposed, they will be the first to scream “racism”.

And in terms of what Muslims in Muslim nations do, it is really of no concern to us. Most of them hate Israel and wish that it be obliterated. We have no interest in that squabble.

Muslims as “friends” or “allies” is a delusion.

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Posted by Al Ross on April 21, 2006, 04:14 AM | #

Phil, you are, of course, correct in mentioning the sanctimonious Swedish whining about ‘racism’ which was directed against the US. Sadly the Americans succumbed not only to this litany of Leftist hogwash,but also to the baneful influence of the egregious Gunnar Myrdahl and his magnum opus, ‘The American Dilemma’.  Sadly the Americans were complicit in their own cozening as Myrdahl was commissioned to write the trashy tome by the Carnegie Foundation.

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Posted by Phil Peterson on April 21, 2006, 04:19 AM | #

Al,

I wish Myrdahl were alive today to see what his ideology has done to Swedish society.

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Posted by Phil Peterson on April 21, 2006, 04:26 AM | #

Sadly the Americans were complicit in their own cozening as Myrdahl was commissioned to write the trashy tome by the Carnegie Foundation.

It would be an interesting question as to what percentage of academics and other do-gooders working for the Carnegie Foundation in those days were Jews. Felix Frankfurter, the Supreme Court judge who greatly influenced the Brown v Board of Education judgment was a Jew and a close friend of Myrdahl. Frankfurter also had a great influence on Earl Warren, the then Chief Justice.

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Posted by Phil Peterson on April 21, 2006, 04:46 AM | #

The “cultural” causes are not difficult to establish. In places like Morocco most women live in fear of sexual harrassment and therefore less easy to rape. In addition, a rape will probably result in some form of family vengenace. That acts as a deterrent to some degree.

In most third world nations, rapes are never reported as they are mixed in with notions of violation of family honour. Therefore, it is very difficult to say what the actual number of rapes in Morocco would be.

A while back we had a story about a poor girl in Pakistan who was gang-raped for a month. After that horrific ordeal, she managed to escape from the clutches of her kidnappers and went to a police station to lodge a complaint. At the station she was raped again, this time by the Police officers.

This sort of thing probably happens a lot but doesn’t get reported for the reasons I cited above. To be a woman in a Muslim country is probably a worse ordeal than being sent to biblical hell.

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Posted by Phil Peterson on April 21, 2006, 04:53 AM | #

Here is that Pakistan story I was talking about. After reading stories like this, should we really be surprised that Muslim men commit gang rapes in the West?

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Posted by Al Ross on April 22, 2006, 03:54 AM | #

Phil

Your point about the Jewish connection within the Carnegie Foundation is most relevant.  I dont know what the racial composition of the Board of Trustees was in Myrdahl’s time, but today the Chairman is Helene Kaplan, the Vice Chairman is Martin Leibowitz. Two further board seats are held by Amy Gutmann and Norman Pearlstine.

Also the Ford Foundation’s Board includes such Jewish luminaries as Yolanda Moses, Carl Weisbad and Afsaneh Beschloss.

The Rockefeller Foundation’s board is graced with the Semitic presence of Margaret Hamburg and Judith Rodin.

I think that’s enough for now.

One sometimes wonders about our American cousins.

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Posted by Muslim's friend... on May 04, 2006, 05:39 AM | #

hay silly people of sweden dont do such work that is not allowed in isllam other wise you know that all the people countries how much they are in all countries will stand agianst you and will defeat all of you you are such silly people jesus and othere wrong religouse what are you if you are all be infront of one muslim cant stand for one day you are all dont have faith….....

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Posted by Al Ross on May 04, 2006, 08:05 AM | #

Damn. Took the words right out of my mouth - verbatim.

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Posted by Luis hill on July 12, 2006, 11:47 PM | #

honestly, if it was up to me i’d have them all shot or exported.

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Posted by Lizzy on August 09, 2006, 07:46 PM | #

From the article and also discussions it is understandable that not well-educated part of Sweden society shares their ideas here, which appeases me a bit. Otherwise, if I would not in Sweden , and did not know the real situation I would think that “oh my God, Swedish people are Nazies really”, and if I were not a Muslim, after reading posts put by so-called Muslims, I would think that what stupid people are Muslims and what Islam religion is. 

Just for note, I would like to draw your attention to the fact that what are being done by immigrants from “Muslim countries” do not necessarily shows the real face of a Muslim.

The first and most vital duty in Islam religion is to be honest and kind towards other human beings (irrespective of their religion).

And also, Prophet Muhammad (peace upon him) was one of the kindest persons of his term, which has already been proved by historians. Pls. read some historic material before writing something and do not abuse your right to free expression, hatred speech does not include freedom of expression!

Good luck in your discussions!

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Posted by Rnl on August 10, 2006, 12:35 AM | #

Lizzy wrote:

The first and most vital duty in Islam religion is to be honest and kind towards other human beings (irrespective of their religion).

You must be joking.

Islam: The Religion of Peace

“Believers, do not make friends with any but your own people. They [i.e. non-Muslims] will not fail to corrupt you. They long for your ruin. Hatred has already shown itself out of their mouths, but more grievous is what their breasts conceal.” (Sura 3.118)

“Those that make war against Allah and His apostle and spread disorder in the land shall be slain or crucified or have their hands and feet cut off on alternate sides, or be banished from the land. They shall be held up to shame in this world and sternly punished in the hereafter.” (Sura 5.33- 34)

[The gruesome punishment described in this verse—“their hands and feet cut off on alternate sides”—was, Lizzy may be surprised to learn, actually inflicted on alleged apostates under the Taliban.]

“Allah revealed His will to the angels, saying: ‘I shall be with you. Give courage to the believers. I shall cast terror into the hearts of the infidels. Strike off their heads, strike off the very tips of their fingers!’ That was because they defied Allah and His apostle. He that defies Allah and his apostle shall be sternly punished by Allah.” (Sura 8.12-13)

“In order that Allah may separate the pure from the impure, put all the impure ones [i.e. non-Muslims] one on top of another in a heap and cast them into hell. They will have been the ones to have lost.” (Sura 8.37)

“Muster against them [i.e. non-Muslims] all the men and cavalry at your command, so that you may strike terror into the enemy of Allah and your enemy, and others besides them who are unknown to you but known to Allah.” (Sura 8.60)

“Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites, and deal harshly with them. Hell shall be their home: an evil fate.” (Sura 9.73)

“When We resolve to raze a city, We first give warning to those of its people who live in comfort. If they persist in sin, judgement is irrevocably passed, and We destroy it utterly.” (Sura 17.16-17)

“We have destroyed many a sinful nation and replaced them by other men. And when they felt Our Might they took to their heels and fled. They were told: ‘Do not run away. Return to your comforts and to your dwellings. You shall be questioned all.’ ‘Woe betide us, we have done wrong’ was their reply. And this they kept repeating until We mowed them down and put out their light.” (Sura 21.11-15)

“When you meet the unbelievers in jihad, chop off their heads. And when you have brought them low, bind your prisoners rigorously. Then set them free or take ransom from them until the war is ended.” (Sura 47.4)

“Mohammed is Allah’s apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another.” (Sura 48.29)

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on August 10, 2006, 01:22 AM | #

“hatred speech is not protected by freedom of expression.”  (—Lizzy)

Yes it is.  You don’t understand freedom of speech, Lizzy.  Neither do the parliamentarians who run around passing hate-speech laws.

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Posted by Subbi on October 02, 2006, 12:55 AM | #

http://www.anonym.to/? to gnxp.com/.......well, try them according to the sharia- thats what they want isnt it? and stone them to death.

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Posted by meenakshi on December 05, 2006, 04:39 AM | #

Muslims….do they know respect women,they create problems wherever they go..or is it like problems follow them?

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Posted by Dave on December 07, 2006, 06:35 PM | #

I have to say you have a great blog, i really enjoy reading it, i have bookmarked it so i can find it back

Keep up the good work

Greets
Dave

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Posted by Guessedworker on December 07, 2006, 07:27 PM | #

Thanks for the encouragement, Dave.

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Posted by Anti-Americanism on January 29, 2007, 12:35 PM | #

I am a Taiwanese who thought Sweden’s Crime rate is not so high like United States. I am sorry to read such a bad news becasue not any person should be treated like this way. I have a strong belief of anti-Americanism and I feel sad when lots of people misunderstand about Muslim people. I have to say parents should always remind their children avoid from dangerous places and aware strangers. And do not go out too late at night. Do not put yourself in dangerous circumstances. Bad people are in every race and don’t let this become racism.

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Posted by Z on April 12, 2007, 06:50 AM | #

The problem I have is this attitude of - it’s less of a crime to rape Swedish women than Muslim ones.

This is outrageous and totally disrespectful.

Why would Swedes happily let people into their country if these other people think like this?

If you’re immigrating to another country you have to have respect for the other residents there and behave according to their laws.

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Posted by ismail on April 17, 2007, 03:53 AM | #

i am a muslim living in the west, and this artical has severley
digusted me…in an islamic state ,these men would be dealt with alot more severley than a western court would…
maybe the west should offer bigger punishments for such
horrendus acts..
i pray that the abve comments do not icriminate muslims ,and immigrants on the whole…
and to god is our return…

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Posted by ARMENIAN on May 24, 2007, 07:15 AM | #

I SWEAR I WAS SHOCKED SHOCKED SHCKED to see such mean dirty point of views carried in sweden .I ASK the swedish authorities to kick THOSE pieces of shit (muslims) out of Sweden . IN my openion THE problem is that SWEDISH government accepts all ppl without investigating thier religiuos backgrounds. CHRISTIANS COMING FROM MIDDLE EAST never carry such opinions .THIS radical islamic view should be be treated properly as soon as possible by cicking those beasts (muslems )out of that country .THEY come to Sweden they get help ,homes ,money ,medical care and human treatment and in return they hate swedish girls and they impose thier sick islamic views on the swedish ppl .STOP BRINGING MUSLEMS TO EUROPE .STOP THAT .WE LIVE HERE AMONG THEM AND WE KNOW WHAT KIND OF SICK MENTALITY ,FULL OF HATRED .THEY HAVE .

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Posted by Johnny on May 30, 2007, 08:12 PM | #

Deport the muslums and solve the problem.

Don’t be so weak with fighting crime.

Rape is nothing to them. Women are just property.

They have no value in muslum life.

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Posted by EC on June 03, 2007, 07:54 PM | #

“now you are looking for muslims to be spacegoat at your social problem”

The long outdated models of extreme gender definitions of masculinity vs. feminity, which these men cling so desperately to would be laughable, considering the cry-baby comments such as the one above, were it not for the violent side this mindset tends to foster.

Regarding western women: “Hardly any of them know how to manage home,children or to cook before the get married.  I think women in the west should not hold many profesional field cause their womanhood is now almost to the destructions.Leave the profesional field entirely at men hand.”

Right-o!  You’d like that wouldn’t you…LOL.  That’s how you like them: Barefoot and pregnant!

I’m starting to wonder if our clash with these people is not so much about race as it is about reason.  They don’t think—they emote!  How can anyone get through to someone who has been kept in the dark about anything except what their religious leaders allow them to know. 

They are like full-grown children who cannot comprehend why the rest of the civilized world is picking on them for doing what they have come to believe is right and correct.  Present a complex social problem and see how simplistic and backward their answers are. 

No doubt there are those who are intelligent and educated, but unfortunately for their group and ours, they seem vastly outnumbered and not likely to go against the antiquated and dangerous mores and ideas.  Considering the blood-thirsty nature of their “brothers”, any attempts would likely be short-lived and ineffective at best anyway.

We thought we were making the world a better place by limiting our number of offspring to only those we could raise well.  We also thought that being kind and caring hosts to the downtrodden would be appreciated.  The lesson comes a little late: that idealism must be tempered by facts and reality; in this case that this murderous mob will likely overwhelm our rational few in short order and be allowed to continue unabated. 

Perhaps I go too far, but I am still incensed at the image and story in Expressen that brought me to this page.

Imagine countless future acts of violence committed against an entire population of unsuspecting, innocent Scandinavian and European women and children (who culturally have never had problems from running around with hardly a stitch on) by these foreign “men” who see them as prostitutes, and who in their mind are just asking for it.

They blame the victim and then they behave as if they are justified in their violence, like our “spacegoat”, who apparently hasn’t got a clue about anything outside his own myopic point of view.  As someone with absolutely no respect for females, which is still espoused by many religions (even in today’s watered-down versions), he has no business living in societies that have long since resolved these basic equality issues.

Unfortunately, he represents the masses who are still pouring into our countries, ready to settle in and by sheer numbers, take over.  It’s easy to say it’s the people’s fault for choosing those who govern (who are responsible for causing this quagmire), but like someone said earlier, the current laws are currently stacked against protesters and it would take a massive effort to put a stop to all of this.

Thanks for creating a place where the actual facts can be made known without censorship and where we can speak freely.

EC in USA formerly of Sweden

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Posted by Top on June 03, 2007, 08:37 PM | #

“The lesson comes a little late: that idealism must be tempered by facts and reality”

The unfortunate part is that countries like Sweden were ready to take the next human step ‘forward’.  With their advanced social system, innovative punishment system, controlled population reproduction, naturally balanced society, etc… they were a model for the rest of us.  I think countries like Sweden would have taken an evolutionary step forward at some point not so far point in the future - for the betterment of human race as a whole.

Now Sweden serves as a model of Euroman’s weakness - following blind idealism, people who are too spoiled to fight for their place on Earth, falling for the sophistic arguments of foreigners, short term demographic vision, etc…  A whole new model for the rest of us.  Sad…

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Posted by EC on June 03, 2007, 11:30 PM | #

Yes Top, you are right.  It’s hard to believe that this has been allowed to happen in such a forward-thinking and modern society.  What went wrong here?  Everyone there is well educated and informed, so I was stunned to see how effectively the truth about what is really going on over there is being quashed. 

Scandinavians in general tend to be more civil and less likely to complain or do anything to draw attention to themselves.  It’s not in their nature to wail and scream when they are having a problem (like some of the people we see in other parts of the world).  They are not wild, animalistic law-breakers like some who apparently feel it is a greater fault to show a little skin than to beat someone to a bloody pulp if they do. 

If anything, they are stoic, not demonstrative.  I have a hard time imagining anything like the French Revolution happening soon, but it would be nice.  Any government that would violate the public trust by allowing the mistreatment its own people in this manner deserves it!

Since pitchforks and clubs are most likely out, there had better be a good turnout at the polls or else our society as we know it is doomed!  And by the way, if this isn’t a perfect example of what can happen when free speech is limited, I don’t know what is.

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Posted by EC on June 04, 2007, 02:07 AM | #

Here are some new findings after just a few minutes of digging around in this white-washed political coverup that has the potential to cause so much harm to our people.  Like they say, a picture is worth a thousand words…

Make no mistake—this is what who we are dealing with:

Note the pleasant smile on this man who seems quite happy to be carrying off the hands from some poor person who probably just helped themselves to a piece of fruit..

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*Note - In Sweden, the prison system is so concerned with the respectful treatment of prisoners that they don’t even allow programs that require them to engage in “demeaning” labor, such as picking up trash alongside the roads.  Who in their right mind believes that integrating these people into our society could possibly succeed?

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This woman did something wrong, no doubt.  But as subjective as their rules are, it could have been whatever happened to irritate the nearest man, and then all hell breaks loose for her.  That had to hurt, but not as much as this next one…

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She was flogged with 86 slashes before being hanged in March, 2001. Her crime was having an affair in the Islamic Republic of Iran. (Holy Crime report)

This woman looks pretty well covered up to me…what could have been showing?  Imagine our women running around topless or in bikinis—they must have a heart attack every time they go out!

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“If any of your women are guilty of lewdness, take the evidence of four (reliable) witnesses from amongst you against them; and if they testify, confine them to houses until death do claim them, or Allah ordain for them some (other) way. Quran 4:15.  Lovely!
Here is our 18 year old Swedish girl, Linda, who, along with her girlfriend was gang-raped and beaten to a bloody pulp by four Somali Muslims, simply for being cute and unprotected. 

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She could just as well have been one of these girls.

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Or these.

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Is this the kind of future our children have to look forward to?  Why should this be and why aren’t the people in positions of authority doing the right thing to protect us from this kind of insanity?!

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Is there any doubt at this point that their necrophilic society has a completely different agenda than our forward thinking, solutions oriented, humanitarian, life loving people?
Haven’t enough innocent people been hurt in this culture clash?  Let’s end this madness before everything we know is completely gone…please, for the sake of the next generation, if not ours.

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Posted by EC on June 04, 2007, 02:14 AM | #

More information at:

http://kotisivu.mtv3.fi/jjokunen/political_correctness_and_islam.htm

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Posted by Mose on June 24, 2007, 08:15 PM | #

What you said about Muhammed is not true. You either said it out of ignorance or you are out of put a nasty label on someone who far, far more elevated and righteous than any lived, living and future being.

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Posted by rachel on July 15, 2007, 05:35 AM | #

I have all kinds of violence, coming from wherever it comes. I dont think all muslims think like that, but i agree they are very boring and not flexible when it comes to accepting diferent cultures. How come they want us to respect then if they dont have respect for the culture in the contries where they are living? Those people are people i would not like to mix up with, they are soo, strange. Made me soo angry to read this text.

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Posted by rachel on July 15, 2007, 05:38 AM | #

i hate* all kinds of violence

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Posted by Becky on July 21, 2007, 07:32 PM | #

“i am a muslim living in the west, and this artical has severley
digusted me…in an islamic state ,these men would be dealt with alot more severley than a western court would…
maybe the west should offer bigger punishments for such
horrendus acts..”

The crime would never be reported because the woman would be dissowned by her family and feel ashamed (because getting raped is so your fault-right? not the man’s at all.) or if she did report it, it would be ignored or she would be made to look like a slut.
And go Al and Phil, you’re intelligent enough to argue your points without ruining it by sounding blindly racist. I feel physically sick reading some of the comments here like “Western women are sluts and deserve to be raped”, islam gives out such a negative idea of how to treat women. Someone here said that western women deserve to be raped because we no longer cook and clean properly, we have jobs and don’t “stay at home as we should”, we’re not allowed to be people. In Europe we have moved on from this prehistoric opinion…ahh you make me sick stop fucking up our countries, we give you so much…be grateful. IF YOU OPPOSE THE GOVERNMENT, DO SOMETHING POSITIVE! VOTE FOR ANOTHER PARTY, SPEAK OUT PEACEFULLY AND CHANGE THE WORLD FOR THE GOOD. DONT SEE RAPING THE WOMEN AS A VICTORY OVER THE WESTERN WORLD BECAUSE IT ISNT, IT JUST MAKES YOU THE ABSOLUTE SCUM OF THIS WORLD.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on July 21, 2007, 08:16 PM | #

“IF YOU OPPOSE THE GOVERNMENT, DO SOMETHING POSITIVE! VOTE FOR ANOTHER PARTY,”  (—Becky)

What about you, Becky?  Would you vote without reservation for the BNP, Tom Tancredo, le Pen, the Vlaams Belang, the now-defunct “Pim’s List” of the late Pim Fortuyn, or another party or individual proposing to put restrictions on further Moslem immigration?  Or do you view them as unacceptable because “racist”?

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Posted by Belarussick on July 27, 2007, 05:58 AM | #

Arabic People Away From our Countries!!!!

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Posted by Dr. Ayesha Zubair on August 14, 2007, 04:42 AM | #

Fjordman and Phil ,

Shame , you have taken words and opinions of a bunch of immigrants as if they were the teachings of Islam , Islam gives respect , honour , security , rights and freedom as no other religions or social laws give. I wish you rechecked and confirmed.

besides , two of my brothers in law have married 2 american women years ago when they went to the US for higher education and they are still their beloved wives and respected ladies.

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Posted by Viking Blood on August 14, 2007, 10:29 AM | #

It’s called a revolution.  Scandinavia and Europe has fallen to a hord of evil.  Wake up Norsemen!  The invasion has already happened!  We are all slaves to the will of the foreigners, and they rape, kill, torture us all.  Then laugh at our laws!
  Resistence, and revolution.  They must be expelled.  They wish only to exterminate us, or use us as slaves, and guess what?  It has already happened.

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Posted by Guessedworker on August 30, 2007, 09:09 AM | #

You are Irish, Brian.  Note the dissonance between the claims of the Dublin Rape Crisis Centre and the Central Statistics Office here:-

The Dublin Rape Crisis Centre (DRCC) has reported an increase in first-time calls of some 11 per cent last year.

Publishing its annual report and statistics for 2006, the DRCC also said there was a 20 per cent increase in the number of women and men attending sexual assault treatment units

It questioned why, when Central Statistics Office (CSO) figures showed that the reporting of rape and sexual assault was down, it had seen an “all-round increase” in the number of victims contacting its services.

Some 42 per cent of more than 15,000 calls to the centre’s helpline related to childhood sexual abuse, and 55 per cent related to adult rape and sexual assault.

In total, the service recorded a 3.5 per cent rise in rape and sexual assault and a 4.5 percentage point increase in the total number of its clients raped by strangers (39.4 per cent).

DRCC chief executive Ellen O’Malley-Dunlop said: “Even though the Central Statistics Office figures recently showed that the reporting of rape and sexual assault was down, it is evident from our figures, that not only is there an all round increase in victims contacting the centre’s services, but the level of violence accompanying these crimes has increased to such an extent, that we are extremely worried when it seems that the problem can slip off the agenda.”

The DRCC said it wanted to remind politicians seeking election that the crimes of rape and sexual assault are “without doubt pernicious, persistent and still hidden”.

Ms O’Malley-Dunlop said it was “shocking” that there was a 20 per cent rise in the numbers of victims accompanied by the centre’s volunteers to the sexual assault treatment unit during 2006 in Dublin. She said there was “growing concern” about the level of sexual violence in society and the under-reporting thereof.

“This is reflected throughout our statistics for 2006 and in the 11 per cent increase in the number of first time callers to our helpline. Why is this not translated into detection and conviction?” she said.

The 24-hour helpline dealt with 15,781 calls, of which 12,244 were “genuine counselling calls”. Some 4,266 (35 per cent of the genuine calls) were from first-time callers. A total of 77 per cent were from the Dublin and greater Dublin area.

In total, 84 per cent of calls were from females and 16 per cent from males.

Now look at this graph ...

... which shows the inexorable rise in immigration to Ireland.  It has wide-ranging impacts, of course - one of which is on

property rental:-

100 per cent mortgages, which came into vogue last year, also present a threat to the pool of renters, as it makes it easier for people to finance the transition to owner occupier.

‘‘It has probably taken some tenants out of the rental market, but not an amount that would be of any detrimental significance to the sector,” said Murgatroyd. ‘‘In any case that is probably being more than offset by the levels of net immigration - this is the big factor that’s underpinning the market.”

Eamonn Fallon said that these renters were critical to the entire residential rental market. ‘‘A large percentage of the demand for house shares and rental accommodation comes from young working immigrants,” he said. ‘‘Without strong immigration, the rental market would take a serious hit and many owner occupiers would find themselves repaying their mortgage without the extra income from renting out rooms in their new house.”

Now, post-Putnam, lots of folk will tell you that the break-down of natural cohesion in European society will impact issues like sexual crimes.  Race realists will also tell you that the presence of African genes is a certain marker for high rape levels.  Think of the well-known FBI crime survey stat of 98% of inter-racial crime in America being black on white.

The question, then, is whether such increases can be definitively connected to immigration, beyond the circumstantial factors I raise here.  And then there is the further question of whether you are interested in protecting European society, or whether you are just a dishonest racial egalitarian who doesn’t care about his own kind.

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Posted by GABRIEL on August 30, 2007, 02:08 PM | #

I SEE YOU DON’T LIKE MY COMMENTS!  ERASE EVERYTHING , BUT BE CAREFULL   :  YOU DESERVE WHAT IS HAPENING IN YOUR COUNTRY…  DO NOTHING , AND YOU WILL SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES…. MAYBE EVEN BECOME MUSLIM.. OR YOU WILL BE USED BY THEM ... IN THEIR SPECIFIC OWN WAY…

THAT’S ALL I HAVE TO SAY!

S. H.!

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Posted by omar on September 06, 2007, 06:49 PM | #

lol so now cus of a few crazy muslim teenagers did that it means all muslims are raping terrorist?! K im muslim and i memorized the whole quran that you are talking about, and muslims are not allowed to even have sex. A lady doest even show her entire body to her husband… You know nothing about islam and ur saying we are hurting you and raping ur women? Did u hear about jewish people in isreal raping thousands of palestanian women every day or americans raping the iraqians and taking away their children, bombing them and killing the elder people… If it wasnt for isreal and usa, all countries would live in peace, just to let you know, the 9/11 event was all set-up and ur government wanted to kill you, and here u are standing up for it… Im a muslim canadian and i hear what people say about u jewish freaks! Everyone hates you…. Over here we respect each other’s religon and u wanna talk about us then maybe u should know the history of the usa first, if usa wasnt there, there would be no global warming, war, or any of these rape stuff so grow the hell up and go waste ur time somewhere else. Frikin americans humping animals on internet and humping their moms and dads and siblings! disgusting!

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Posted by Al Ross on September 06, 2007, 07:13 PM | #

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

Read it, Omar, and marvel at the breathtaking stupidity of world’s only monotheistically pagan, moongod-worshipping, belief system.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/08/who_is_allah.html

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on September 06, 2007, 08:01 PM | #

“Arabic People Away From our Countries!!!!”

Belarussick there (several comments up the thread) has hit upon the right message ... and a masterpiece of elegant simplicity!  Nice work, Bela!

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Posted by TG on September 06, 2007, 08:23 PM | #

omar,

Mohamed was a pedophile; he married a 9 year old girl.

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Posted by Sandbomb on September 08, 2007, 06:08 AM | #

The person who wrote this article…well, I can only describe him as a racist Jackass.
He is completely wrong on the whole subject, and probably too biased to see the whole picture.

First of all, I’m muslim and nowhere in any sayings did Prophet Mohammed EVER rape anyone nor have any concubines. He did have sex with his many wives (Because if you actually learnt to check up on the Koran, you’d see that Polygamy is permitted In Islam). How ever, rape, Prejudice and other crimes are STRICTLY forbidden.

Other than you being completely wrong about my religion and being under the impression that you actually know what you’re talking about. You have completely judged us all while looking at these muslims that you’ve quoted in your Written Piece (if they are real at all). Muslims do not see women as “booty” nor are in ANY kind of warfare, muslims (well, the muslims I know, at least) are people that look for places to prosper and live. You can’t blame a person’s mentality and on his religion. If Somali Immigrants are raping young girls, that’s not Islam’s fault, that his fault, his parent’s fault etc. The religion has nothing to do with it.

Lots of Caucasians are doing drugs, do we blame Christianity? No, because it’s a person that choices his own fate and makes the choices he has to live with.

I can say that not only am I appalled by reading this, I also laugh at the dedication this person had to write a whole useless letter for everyone to send. Thinking that it would actually make a difference. A pointless, biased and self-indulgent crusade I say.

Good luck.

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Posted by Guessedworker on September 08, 2007, 08:17 AM | #

Sandbum,

The difference we would like to see is for non-European populations, be they Moslem or not, to quit the European homeland.  The guy who wrote the article - Fjordman - is not an MR contributor and, indeed, is critiqued pretty regularly here for his tendency to discriminate by culture (ie, Islam) instead of genes.

To my mind, Islam in continental Europe is a proxy for mostly African and North African genetic invasion.  Whether Islam encourages the abuse of infidel women or not, Africans, especially SSAs, do exhibit a much higher incidence of rape than other races, especially inter-racial rape against white women.  98% of inter-racial rape in America is black on white.

So my question to you is: are European peoples justified in defending themselves?  Or do our women have to convert and thank Allah for these new African friendships.

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Posted by Fatuma on September 08, 2007, 09:26 PM | #

I am a Muslim and I completely disagree with the statement that girls who don’t wear the scarf are asking to be raped who ever released that statement has no knowledge of Islam, rape is not only morally wrong but religiously too.

And reading through the statements only proves that there are still a lot of ignorant people out there and not just pointing the finger at the non-Muslims but the Muslims too

Read a book read between the lines and increase your brain power


So don’t judge a whole religion on what a handful of idiots act on. Your religion can easily be ridiculed under a microscope so don’t make the mistake of thinking your superior then another human being whatever their religion.

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Posted by Steve Edwards on September 09, 2007, 10:17 AM | #

Hi Fatuma and Sandbomb. I’m not too busy, so I thought I’d log on and ask you a couple of questions.

The first is, in three parts, is probably the most personal for you - do you have any scientific evidence that a man living at the turn of the 6th/7th century in Arabia called Mohammad was approached by an angel called Gabriel, itself sent on behalf of an Arabic speaking sky-god called “Allah”, and appointed a “prophet”? Do you have any further proof (naturally, you do have to present your claims in a correct manner that is open to falsification) that someday I will catch alight, burning for all eternity, simply because I don’t buy it? If not, on what grounds do you object to this unfalsifiable fantasy being dragged through the mud?

The second is really a matter for ourselves, and it’s a two-part quickie - what percentage of Europe’s population do you think ought to be Muslim? Do you believe that Europeans have the right to self-determination?

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Posted by Steve Edwards on September 09, 2007, 10:20 AM | #

Pardon my grammar.

“The first is, in three parts, is probably the most personal for you” should say “The first is in three parts, and is probably the most personal for you”.

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Posted by Scimitar on September 09, 2007, 11:31 AM | #

Durkha Durkha, Mohammed Jihad.

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Posted by steven acer on September 09, 2007, 06:07 PM | #

it’s about time now the west realizes what kinda threat islam is .
Regarding “Mohammed”, well , Mohammed was nothing but a barbarian.When the number one rule in islam is “aslim taslam” which literally means become a muslim and we’ll spare your life , you know what kind of satanic religion would evolve.

Islam seems to concentrate on christian countries because they know they cannot fight jews or east asian cultures, but only because christians themselves have lost their binds with their religion which is the true basis of the west, of democracy and freedom the west
brags about everywhere.In Germany and France for example , police arrested many youngsters who belonged to christian groups because they were “teasing” muslims around, yeah that should pay off in keeping barbaric muslims out of our streets and society.

And this is not something new by the way, it’s just that the western civilization is so damn blind to see the huge the size of this dangerous virus.Islam invaded many countries that used to be christian like Lebanon for example. Christians in this country represented 70% of the population now they are merely 50% and the country is ruled by muslim extremists among which are the hizbullah terrorists.And when christians in the country stood up against the muslim rage, what did the west do ? it supported the muslim militias and left christians to choose between immigration ad genocide.The lebanon metamorphism was a direct cause of the current metamorphism of Europe, and unless Europe quits dumpin its christian roots - some nut heads in Europe are still afraid of the church and of its role and prefer to keep it away from politics, well FLASHER FOR YA it’s the wrong enemy pals !! -
and starts acting on the basis of christian solidarity, we might soon see black ninja women in the Vatican !

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Posted by page 3 fan on September 09, 2007, 07:36 PM | #

Maybe, but certainly it’s about time this site managed to link from the front page ‘recent comments’ section to comments on pages two-plus.

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Posted by Yagami on September 11, 2007, 02:43 PM | #

Hi all, hmmm , just my view on this topic,  find this topic to be helpful in a way and destructive to those who can comprehend it in a better way .

First of all , i do think that Religion which contain element of building an empire is wrong, because it seems to be AGAINST their own concept of respecting others culture and religion. Its same as someone quoted before that Islam is merciful but the koran contains encouragement on wars and punishment. I am not against Islam or whatever religion here, but please, try to emphasize on morality, on basic human rights and put yourself in other shoe when they sees hows the act and result of such religion.

One frightening concept which i disagreed most is people who entered Islam will be in it forever, no U TURN , hopefully people who entered Islam will find enlightment in it and be glad of it, but for those who dont find it appropriate, its like a dead end, causing lots of mentality pressures be it directly on the follower or worst indirectly causing lost of harm to follower’s family/community and friends.

About the virgin in heaven , i dunno why such word is being quoted in Koran, it suppose to be a holy book which is teaching good thing, not to encourage people on erotica thinking, dont u agree? , suppose to be something likee “Those who believe in me will be learning the whole way beside me in a peeaceful and tranquility environment smile

About the 9 year old wive, its like hmmm i think its against the law right? or is it in Islam theres no minimum age threshold for sexual activity?

About those trouble caused by muslim immigrant to sweden , well I know a lot of good muslim people, but mostly are modern one, who dont really trying to convert us, but who can talk on behalf on us when he/she felt its unfair to us, hope the conversation here can be in a much calm way and well mannered, its ok for me to see those F*** S****, but not to people who might be offensed by it .

One thing i would like to ask u guys, do Islam, Christian, Buddhism, Hinduism, and all others teach about DO GOOD AND BE BLESSED / DO BAD AND BE BLAZED?  its a good morality point which control the well being of human mental.

One thing i find buggy in all the religion bible is ” BELIEVE IN THIS AND ONLY THIS stuff”
This again introduce a dead end no U TURN path and directly IRRESPECT to others culture and religion, am i right?

About PORN , ok lets do a polling , anyone who never watch porn before please raise up your eye brow , ..
Porn is a kind of material to be added to our sexual fantasies/needs as a human, anyone here never though of any SEXUAL related item before? Its normal… , Overstrict control over this item proven to be harmful to health and mentality. By the statistics of Muslim involvement in Sexual Crime is much higher than other religion, am i right? Its like Japanese in Yakuza/SM bondage stuff, Negro in street fighting/drug, Chinese in Triad, and like you said Western female in porn? but have you come to think why? every action/phenomenon in this world happen because of a reason, you own something u will lose something, just like the amount of atom/electron stuff in this universe ....

World is changing, our life is changing,  no more peaceful life, no more relaxing life, and lots of pressure in our daily work, ISNT ALL these enoough to kill us? why put the religion/race/culture stuff on our head while we cant even carry out our normal life activity? This doesnt means that Religion is not important at all , but how to we people who can think properly /or act properly in such a pressuring world going to carry out what religion want us to do?

Religion suppose to be a guideline for us to follow to make this world a better one for our next gen. Not to inject the idea of racist, irrespect of others culture, and war inducing lifestyle. The world will be in much better shape without religion and with plenty of morality,human rights teaching , agree?

No matter how much we hate each other, we wont bring it to hell, but the pity one (our children) will bear the same fate and in a worse rate if he/she wont realize that its wrong to be so SELFCENTERED thinking.

U know its sad to see if one day my boy come and ask me, “Dad, why I can see gap between different race, or why the white can and I cant? or why those muslim can and we kafer cant? Shouldnt such inbalanced way of thinking be rectified and clear out of innocent children mind? When my children ask so i might drop tears…, while listening to AYUMI “no way to say” 

I like japanese culture but it seems to be weakened day by days, I like Christmas but i dont like the priest preaching and insulting on non believers, I like Hari Raya with its delicious ketupat and rendang but I felt inferior to Muslim because of the way they think, I like Chineese New year but I dont the way they burning jostick and such…,

Currently theres no perfect religion, why wont we try to make the world a better one rather than following what religion told us?Arent we suppose to prove to our creator that we are caring, loving and respecting each other just like what our creator want us to be?

My current feeling is sleeping with wolves rather than dancing with wolves ... , I dunno and I am not sure whether I , my family, my friend will be safe for tonight and will wake up and smile to me tomorrow, or will I see them in the newspaper that they have been burnt alive by those religion extremist….

Our life is getting heavy and heeavier everyday with lots of responsibility on family/relationshpi and /monetary issues…. , are we trying to least it or make it worse?

Correct me if iam wrong and sorry for mybad english, just my opinion, please dont feel offense with my comment, it just my thought that i hope i can voice up before i never have a chance tomorrow, who knows what will happen then…

Hope God one day will show up and rectify those book HE/SHE has written wrongly…

Respect women just like the way you respect your mother,  I disagree with multiple wife concept as it encourage dis-loyalty , and circumcision too , if we were to collect all the time,moneey,resources that are being spent on circumcision, I think we can make a few poor country into a better one ...

when a human being being harm or being involve in someething painful and violent, it will scar the brain and affect his/her way of thinking,  especially when its baby/kid time, human is born with a brain which uniquely identify themself as someone who is alive, and WITHOUT BUG…. this is the main error of it , human should always recall what they have done, and try to correct it to make a better tomorrow…

Am i long winded? ok ok here the last point….

Its all the people in this world were MUSLIM , will there be a Guaranteed peaceful life? comee to think of it, think of middle east country… , is it peaceful enough? democratic enough ? where everyone has the right to live and sound?

If all the people in this world be Japanese , gost I bet I will start my career as a tissue paper seller since there will be huge demand of it at everywhere since its kinda full and gorwing in term of erotica value… , still i like their music smile

If all the people in this world were buddhism… ,hmmm I think i can see lots of monk , no war, peaceful , but its hard to think in the looping reincarnation style….

If all the people in this world were Hinduism? Come to think of it, I think their ultimate relieve will be 0 , means NON EXISTENT, sooner planet earth will become green enough again since all the human has been contributing to next gen fossil fuel…..

If all the people in this world were just like WESTERn people,..., hmmm not bad, lots of porn u think? free porn? nope.. this is not the first thing that come to my mind, but a more democratic world, but war will still be around , this time not for oil, its for internet bandwidth torrent stuff

If all the peoplee in this world were raised with enough awareness in humanity value, morality, respectation to self, respectation to others, we wont be discussing this matter in this place at this time…. , maybe we are already friends and playing gunbound or unreal tournament together right?

seeyah all smile

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Posted by osama bush on September 12, 2007, 03:23 PM | #

i just think they are blided.

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Posted by god on September 23, 2007, 01:07 PM | #

yyyyyyyyyy… the world not try to kill all the islam… the world more save…
boom the islam county ...boom them go to they temple ..... kill they guy… than rapr the girl….....oooooooo… do it… to save the world

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Posted by steven acer on September 25, 2007, 02:22 PM | #

yagami,man you been watchin cartoons for too long
let’s see what’s it gunna be when japan is invaded by the virus - come to think about it it won’t be long fore that happens.
believe me i know a lot about them and their so called religion.
For them it’s not just a religion it’s a political regime as well,
and wherever the islam virus lands its only concern is
to turn the land into an islamic one, for now muslims in sweden
cannot marry a 9 year old girl but if they regime allowed it ooh yes they would
because their so called prophet did, dammit the guy fucked more woman than a male porn star would get in his lifetime and his slogan was ” inkahu ma taba lakom mina nnisaa” which litterally again means “fuck as much woman as you wish”, or fuck the law we’ll rap’em as they’re doing now, so if they could not apply the islamic shareea with other consent they will do it by force.
we ain’t got a problem with them they got a problem with civilization itself, you wanna live in peace with them but peace is the last thing in their mind.

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Posted by Count Sudoku on September 25, 2007, 09:13 PM | #

To all the muzzie defenders who have posted their BS about rape not being the muzzie way. We don’t give a shit what religion you practice, we don’t want black and arab lowlifes in our countries.

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Posted by MAHMOUD on September 26, 2007, 07:34 AM | #

TRY TO READ ABOUT ISLAM
Peace upon you all every body on earth,
This is our greeting in Islam that to have and live in peace with others. Islam is the best religion on earth that respects freedom of others. It is apparent that there is an attack on Islam without having any background about Islam at all. Islam is religion of peace before war and the first religion on earth struggling against killing. Whenever I fid a Christian person killing or raping a woman tat this is a Christian person doing this. This accident is that there is a man who has raped a woman, nothing more. Christianity is innocent at all of this person. He same is with any other Muslim person when h does such a crime he is so far from Islam and Islam has a great sentence against him. Whenever you look for statistics you will find thousands of crimes and rape crimes all over Europe every day but you close your eyes on purpose. Islam is calling for chastity of woman and when he calls woman to be scarfed and to be wearing loose clothes, this is to hide any attraction points of her body. What do you think when a teenage or man generally watches a sex movie (so common in Europe) and gets out to see a semi naked woman, what will he do??????????? Let’s think and speak more neutrally.
                              Sign.
                              Human being

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Posted by Guessedworker on September 26, 2007, 08:57 AM | #

Mahmoud writes: What do you think when a teenage or man generally watches a sex movie (so common in Europe) and gets out to see a semi naked woman, what will he do???????????

I suppose he will try to understand the eternal mystery of woman, albeit through the Jewish pornographic prism.  What he will not do, if he is a normal European, is to attack and rape a woman.

Look, Mahmoud, the rape of Swedish girls will increase if a large, alien and high-ST (blood testosterone) group of males is left in contact with them.  Does Islam encourage the mindset that rape of infidel women is not unholy?  You tell me.

But don’t tell me that Islam protects women who are believers, because that isn’t the issue.  The issue, again, is: what part of the rapine in Sweden is, at bottom, a simple product of SSA presence, and what part is encouraged by the supremacist faith and male-sexual traditions in Islam?

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Posted by Yagami on September 27, 2007, 12:14 PM | #

Hi there smile , replying to steven acer smile

-yagami,man you been watchin cartoons for too long

nah , i am still watching it everyday, of course i hope i can be in it for real , but this Islamic issue really causing a stir in my mind


-let’s see what’s it gunna be when japan is invaded by the virus - come to think about it it -won’t be long fore that happens.

hmmm , of course i dont hope such thing will happen to japan , they already have sin to be paid for such As world war crime on korea, nanking and etc…. , i can really emulate that part where u said if such VIRUS landed on japanese land, freaking unimaginable….., man i dont hope my favourite shakuhachi flute benig use in the wakening of early morning prayer…..

-believe me i know a lot about them and their so called religion.
-For them it’s not just a religion it’s a political regime as well,
-and wherever the islam virus lands its only concern is
-to turn the land into an islamic one,

I do agree on this part, thats what causing me to join this talk , i hardly can feel safe with such kinda religion cum regime cum politic cum bruteforce stuff around you right?>

-for now muslims in sweden
-cannot marry a 9 year old girl but if they regime allowed it ooh yes they would
-because their so called prophet did, dammit the guy fucked more woman than a male -porn star would get in his lifetime and his slogan was “ inkahu ma taba lakom mina -nnisaa” which litterally again means “fuck as much woman as you wish”, or fuck the -law we’ll rap’em as they’re doing now, so if they could not apply the islamic shareea -with other consent they will do it by force.
HMMMM i dont even know they have such slogan existed in their holy book, CAN A MUSLIM here stand up and tell us what it mean and how you feel about it? only reply on this ok? the only way to clear such a mess is to respond on each question clearly, i can seee that certain question being post by previous forum-er are being avoided… this will cause more ambiguity and uncertainty towards Muslim, be fair and stand up and talk ok?


-we ain’t got a problem with them they got a problem with civilization itself, you wanna l-ive in peace with them but peace is the last thing in their mind.
I do have muslim friends around the world who is ok and not those hardliner type, still i can feel they are approaching for peace too just like us, but do you agree with me that the level of proper education do affect them? Its like we can get along easier with modern well educated muslim rather than sub-urban or rural type? 


ok , now its for mahmoud turn smile

-TRY TO READ ABOUT ISLAM

We are trying to understand more about Islam heere, but it seems like you guys cant really answer our question directly…. , the way u guys is answering is kinda ambigous and kinda avoiding… ,

-Peace upon you all every body on earth,
-This is our greeting in Islam that to have and live in peace with others.
I believe this one is true, but in your heeart sincerely, can u really live together with kafir? I do believe the way u guys are educated since young about kafir is quite direct and mean isnt it? am i right to say that you hardly can change yourself to have peace exist between you and kafir? the correct way is to say that converting them to muslim is the ultimate goal right? cant you just leave them alone? no harsh feeling here ok? just treat it like a normal open interview smile


—- Islam is the best -religion on earth that respects freedom of others.
Isnt this self praised? I mean you are not respecting others by saying so right?  Again sincerely ask yourself whether you really aiming for living in peace with other? isnt such a statement will shurely cause some kinda argument?


- It is apparent that there is an attack on -Islam without having any background about -Islam at all. Islam is religion of peace before -war and the first religion on earth struggling -against killing.
hmmmm , Please do state out whatever proof you have to support this claim !! , I hardly can swallow this one, reallly, even your koran is kinda containing violent war stuff right? against killing…,  I am feeling likee those monk in thailand is much more suitable for it , they are truely against killing and no fight back , only strike and voice out .... am i right?

- Whenever I fid a Christian -person killing or raping a woman tat this is a Christian -person doing this. This accident is -that there is a man who has raped a woman, nothing -more. Christianity is innocent at all -of this person. He same is with any other Muslim -person when h does such a crime he -is so far from Islam and Islam has a great -sentence against him.
well i am with you for this one smile , I am truely against discrimination on sexes such as a raped female will be punished further because it is a kinda law in Islam that such thing will only exist because the girl is attracting them or started it by herself….. , ITS TRUELY BULLSHIT , when such thing happened to people who you care , you will know such a hard feeling for them still you cant do anything for them since majority win…... , most of the MCP out there discriminate against female….., thank you mahmoud for at least being fair to female smile


- Whenever you look for -statistics you will find thousands of crimes and rape crimes all -over Europe every day -but you close your eyes on purpose. Islam is calling for chastity -of woman and when he -calls woman to be scarfed and to be wearing loose clothes, -this is to hide any attraction -points of her body.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think i will take my word back, you are kinda shooting yourself at the foot… , now you push those blames on female :( , why dont chastity of male? why is it only female to endure such a torture? they have their right to wear anything that they feel comfortable with…. , do you think that man with erection leaded by naked woman should be repay with rape and violence? tell you what , sexuality is being built in us since born, there is no way to hide from it, the more u control it or avoid such issue the worse their behaviour and reaction towards it ,  try to browse to see my neighbour Malaysia newspaper and try to find the statistc on rape by relatives which mostly happened in malays , how do you explain it? is it unavoidable?is it a sin to be born as a female? and born naturally into such a bent minded community?

-What do you think when a teenage or man generally watches a sex -movie (so common -in Europe) and gets out to see a semi naked woman, what will he -do??????????? Let’s -think and speak more neutrally.
again mahmoud , watching a sex movie is not a sin , its natural for them , just dont overreact and overdo it , watching it doesnt meeans I need to do anything about it , I can learn someething from it , or i can relax myself phantasizing it , at least I still have my hand to help myself out , doesnt meeans I neeed to RAPE one right?

peace ok , no fight here, only discussion for better understanding for everyone if you really aim for the “PEACE” you mention before and we are hoping for smile

-Sign.
-Human being
Sign the same type of human being only with diff skin color diff mindset diff sex diff religion , but still I am being born by parents with blood and innocence smile

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Posted by Steve Edwards on September 27, 2007, 12:48 PM | #

“Islam is the best religion on earth that respects freedom of others.”

Pure nonsense from an indoctrinated fool. At best, Islam can be called an expansionist tribute-collecting racket. OK, nothing special here - everybody’s been in for a bit of that before, haven’t they? But at worst, Islam is a naked attack on European EGI that must be resisted vigourously. I’ve seen enough verbal gymnastics from your side, and have read plenty of history to understand the context.

I’m probably wasting my breath, but seeing as you are in the business of justifying your little slave racket, you might like to furnish your arguments with scientific evidence that Mohammad was a “prophet” delegated by an omnipotent Arabic-speaking entity called “Allah”.

When you’ve done that (and failed), you might then like to explain your position on indigenous Europeans. For example, do you believe that they have the right to self-determination? Can you name an acceptable upper percentage limit on the presence of Muslims in Europe?

Oh yes, I nearly forgot. What is your position on Jerusalem? And what of Constantinople?

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Posted by Al Ross on September 27, 2007, 04:16 PM | #

Not only is Islam the best religion in the world, it is also the most peaceful :

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com

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Posted by dalila on September 30, 2007, 06:38 PM | #

this is ridiculous. i am really sorry for these girls but this has nothing to do with the muslim society. these are unstable individuals who raped those girls. please make sure you research before posting bullshit. did u even read the Koran? it never even incinuates raping. stop this stereotyping its very dangerous the way you are thinking…

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Posted by Lurker on September 30, 2007, 08:03 PM | #

Dalila - the point is do muslim men in Sweden rape white women, on average, more than white men rape white women. Or in other words are muslim men over represented in the numbers of Swedens rapists compared to their percentage of the population.

I strongly suspect they are, you I presume have strong evidence they are not.

Why is dangerous to point this out though? That kind of implies you believe it to be true but would rather it was ignored. After all if it were not true it would very easy for all interested parties to collate the relevent data and prove once for all that muslim men are no worse than Swedish men. So why dont they?

The Swedish police, judiciary, rape victim support groups, crime surveys etc between them must have reasonably good empirical evidence that points one way or the other. Or would it be ‘dangerous’ to look at those figures. ‘Dangerous’ for muslim men of course, Swedish women just have to take their chances I suppose.

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Posted by CanDistan on October 14, 2007, 10:08 AM | #

What a load of crap.

When the blacks are gone, and the world is still shitty, who will you blame then?  Slightly off-white people?  Chinese?  Catholics? 

Get a life you losers!

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Posted by Irfan Khan on October 15, 2007, 06:38 AM | #

I say these kind of Muslims are a disgrace to Islam… Women in a Islamic society is not a man’s property.. After Allah and after the Prophet the most highly ranked status is of a mother.. wives and daughters are a man’s responsibility and not property.
the slave girls(of Muslims) that this article mentioned are past now… Islam allowed men to have slaves when the world was doing it…

May Allah guide these cruel muslims to the right path and create a better understanding of Islam and Quran and also create an understanding b/w the non-muslims and the righteous muslims…

Islam has never mentioned that the unveiled women are to be blamed if something happens to them… instead it asks muslims to keep themselves and their family from commiting a sin… such muslims should be stoned to death as the punishment of sex before marriage is being stoned to death in Islam…

In a Muslim society, if a non-Muslim commits such act then he/she is not be given such punishment unless it is the state’s law as everybody already knows the law of his/her country and would think of the punishment before committing a crime..

- Irfan Khan(a Muslim who wishes to have friendly relations with the whole world)

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Posted by ruven de luna on October 25, 2007, 01:14 AM | #

hi i´m from spain and i read this notice…this is a shame,,here in spain ,the fucking moors are a plague,they have no respect for our culture,well,they have no respect for nothing and nobody..just for fucking mahoma…
we are very disgusted with this.from spain.greetings.
sorry,my english is a piece of shit.

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Posted by Azeez Ihmeidan on December 11, 2007, 11:49 PM | #

that article that you has alot of false information about muslims and waht they believe get your facts straight before saying mindless, idiotic, arrogant, and false commets about islam

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Posted by Mekii on December 17, 2007, 09:31 AM | #

What the heck has this to do with the fackt that he/they are muslims?

Hitler was not a kristian and he killed dusins of people.. And so meny other people who are known in the world history were not muslims.. And they killed..

Allright.. prehaps these men had msulims names.. but were they muslims in they hearts.. where they believing in God..?
In the Quran, it says.. if you kill one person it is like yuo killed the entire world..
it means that you’ll get so meny sines.. And you’ll get in hell if God doesn’t forgive you..

So, i ask again.. what has the fackt that they are muslims to do..?

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Posted by Guessedworker on December 17, 2007, 10:08 AM | #

Azeez, Mekii and others,

It might help mutual understanding if you were to return to live in Muslim lands, and leave us in peace.  As it is we strongly suspect you have no capacity to deal with our way of life, and want to impose your own upon us.

What argument you have with the West is with its political and business elites, not with its peoples.  Correct?  So don’t live among its peoples.

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Posted by sunshine on December 17, 2007, 02:09 PM | #

Islam allows Muslims men to rape women that their right hand possesses (slaves) and thereby justifies the rape of non-Muslim women in many scenarios.  Prophet Mohammed had a huge number of wives and concubines, and the holy Prophet Mohammed had sex with a pre-pubescent girl.  Does this not meet the definition of a sexual pervert?

Posted by J Richards


I’m not muslim but this religion is quite interesting for me. I’ve been visited the beautiful Islamic country like Yemen, one word is deserved for the people whom built such a domestic tradition and architecture in such a desert is “Aryan”
I admired how they grow the land from “nothing”
you have to read qo’ran first before saying that Islam is bad. there have the good explaination on this subject. 

why Islam dosen’t allow women to show off their beauty?
 

1. One woman seen another woman showed off her beauty, she may feel bad that she isn’t pretty like the woman she has seen, or she may feel envy.

2.  when one woman seen another woman worn sexy cloth, she may feel offensive of that shamless woman? and the consequence is the women begin to qualler each other, gossip each other, just because the other women worn expensive cloth or look prettier. in Islam, to bussy with clothing and fashion to show people, brings women foolish and problems.

3.  Why muslimahs have to cover their hair?

example,  like when you have a diamond? will you keep it in the box? or will put it on the street where people walking?  the woman who wears sexy cloth is just like a stupid woman who has nothing to show, only the most lastest thing she has in her body is beauty.


Why prophet Mohammed had many wives?

In the long years of war?  a lot of male were died. there left the widow and childrens.
you know in ancient time. women didn’t go to work, they couldn’t effort themselve so the most important thing of women in every countries of that time were, to marry?

prophet Mohammed married a lot of women, for kept their status as ladies not the slaves.  almost of his wives were the older widows, whom lose their husbands in the war.


Why muslim have many wives?

Because almost male are never enough for one woman, even in western countries. always have such a males whom already married one woman but having affair with another one, untill make a problem about the outlaw-childs, broken home childrens etc.  or some kind of the males whom like to go to the prostitutes.

In Islam religion. all humans have their value, especially the women. the religion dosen’t encourage males to insult the woman’s pride, even to the prostitute.
if the man wanted to do something to the woman, even if she was the prostitute. he has to give the RIGHT and responcible to her as one of his wife, by marry her.


Why Islam allows husbands to hit their wives?

In every societies of ancient time. males have power and authority to manage all things. I do not deny that some muslim still believe their wives are proporties just like their childrens. the religion articles also seem to say so. but this article isn’t that worst.
as if the muslim males really follow qoran. about the limited of their right to treat their wives. the religion has never say the males have their right to hit their wives injury. but it’s the kind of old tradition to treating and teaching the women like his childrens.
on the contrary, for some very bad woman like on american tv? the way to teach the women like in old time ( in the limited of qoran’s article) is not that bad.

you could see lesser problem of divorce, homeless young women, drug adict young women in Islamic countries? in the same time the western country like usa seem to has those problems?

western country said they gave the right to the women as same as men? but how about the law, like in holland? allows prostitute to be one of the legal work? with the explanation to make lesser raping on the streets?  how about this law makes the raping turned to be common and acceptable culture in the social everydays then? 



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Posted by Tim wester on December 28, 2007, 03:07 PM | #

Hi!

First of all, i’m swedish.. i’am so happy that poeple from other countrys has started to notice the scary situation in sweden.. its horrible. its hardly any swedish poeple left in swedens third biggest city: malmö, probobly around 60% muslim poeple,
I grew up in that city and i moved away when I was 16 years old now i’m 18,
from the year 2004 - 2006 i was robbed and beaten 12 times, two times i ended up in the hospital..
it’s horribal that swedes is a minority in sweden!

excuse my bad spelling

// Tim

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Posted by Jim on January 05, 2008, 04:58 PM | #

Freaks! All of you Muslims who share the old world mentality of your chauvenistic ways of the Koran. Get with the times, you scumbags! Women are to be as repected as any male. I think they should begin the irradication of these riff raff immediately. For a woman to simply have self pride is not a green light to take liberties with her sexuality. You should all be shot with balls of your own shit! And then with a GUN! If you want to live in OUR world (not yours, remember that), then begin to live like human beings, not animals….how stupid are you people?! I am not afraid of any of you and would start vigilante behaviour if this ever happened where I live. You may believe that you are trying to take over the world and lead them into the proper belief of your crazy ways, but you have to get your heads out of your asses first,to see this is a myth. The western (civilized) world must make a stand on their freedom and know that a strong sexual confidence is NOT dirty or disgraceful, but with simple minds comes confusion and ignorance, and is misconceived as so. The first problem is you have disrespected your own women and treated them like slaves for so long that your minds are warped with a caveman mentality. It really is time to close the doors and drop a bomb over there or something, before it really is too late.

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Posted by Jim on January 05, 2008, 05:39 PM | #

Upon reflection, I must apologize to many Muslims out there that I have found now who actually agree with some of our beliefs and respects for both genders. Please allow me to make that clear—this was anger directed at the mislead Muslims who are still sharing the ways of the old world regarding women and their rightful place in this world. I took the time to read quite a few postings and am a logical man who will definitely give them credit. The bit about bombing was silly and I take that back. I think perhaps I share some of the anger most would feel when they first discover this thread. Peace to all.

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Posted by Daniel on January 17, 2008, 04:55 PM | #

to the person who claims that european languages stole words from arabic:
Arabic is one of the newest languages on earth.

and All of the “arabic” words you mentioned are actually taken from Hebrew.

stop lying!

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Posted by Mark on January 21, 2008, 04:41 PM | #

The US and British government didnot cause the worlds Islamic people to turn to violence. Islam is a violent deathcult that allows the living to live in squalor waiting for paradise, a Calvinistic vision long since removed from the west. They achieve nothing, produce nothing and love nothing. Their cult allows for murder, theft and deceit as long as it furthers their cult. There is no love in this cult, specifically there is no love for women. Their women are cattle and their mothers reviled for being so unclean a beast. This has led to their “men”, a term I use loosely having seen them flee from real men like myself, to be borderline psychotic, awaiting only the smallest provocation to fly into what has become the standard muslim rage.
When I was in Sweden in the late ‘80’s what amazed me was the rough treatment of women by Swedish men. We could not believe that men could push, shove and mishandle women the way they did. As a dullard Neanderthal American, we were led to believe that women demanded our respect and protection. Once the native men gave up that role, who is there for them now that the muslim horde has invaded. You Swedish men have a duty, an obligation to protect your women with your lives. Fight for God’s sake! Stand up and stop whining and wondering what you should do. Make it clear in no uncertain terms that the ritual rape of your women, the whores that this collection of scum refer to are sacred and will be defended to the death of those who would assail them. From my cave in the US, I would come out with vengeance and guns blazing if Linda were my daughter, sister, mother or wife. Don’t your women deserve the same? Don’t suck up to your invaders either, they mean business. For a group that disdains pork, they are a collection of pigs.

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Posted by Guessedworker on January 22, 2008, 04:47 PM | #

To the Europeans posting here, who may not know MR’s rules, I ask you to demonstrate intelligence, insight and care in the words you employ.  We are not a board for hate merchants or for the intellectually challenged.  If you do not have anything substantive to contribute, please resist the temptation to post.

Thank you.

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Posted by Ken on January 27, 2008, 08:19 AM | #

I was almost swept away by the emotions and anecdotal evidence in your piece. Which is what this is. This is not a logical case laid with mathematical precision. It is a barrage of outrageous emotions.

But unlike many readers here, I am a logical person, swayed by fair journalism and statistics. Surely, there is a Muslim-European counterpoint to the extremism from the hand-picked quotes in your article.

Also, where are your statistics coming from? Have you studied the different effects of being an immigrant vs. being a Muslim immigrant in particular?

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Posted by Guessedworker on January 27, 2008, 08:57 AM | #

Ken,

There is, of course, not much official data on Muslims convicted of rape in Europe, either against their own women or against white women.  The blogger Fjordmann wrote a Frontpage Magazine piece referring to a new study from the Crime Prevention Council, Brå which noted that:-

it is four times more likely that a known rapist is born abroad, compared to persons born in Sweden. Resident aliens from Algeria, Libya, Morocco and Tunisia dominate the group of rape suspects. According to these statistics, almost half of all perpetrators are immigrants.

Fjordmann continued:-

In Norway and Denmark, we know that non-Western immigrants, which frequently means Muslims, are grossly overrepresented on rape statistics. In Oslo, Norway, immigrants were involved two out of three rape charges in 2001 ... Swedish Lawyer Ann Christine Hjelm, who has investigated violent crimes in Svea high court, found that 85 per cent of the convicted rapists were born on foreign soil or by foreign parents.

There is, of course, much anecdotal evidence of the same phenomenon.  Here’s the Independent’s Yasmin Alibhai-Brown sounding off at the Niqab:-

The sexual signals of the hijab and niqab are even more suspect. They are physical manifestation of the pernicious idea of women as carriers of Original Sin whose cheek or a lock of hair turns Muslim men into predators. In Denmark a mufti said unveiled women asked for rape. As if to order, rape by Muslim men of white women is rising alarmingly.

Here’s a review of Samira Bellil’s book, In Gang-Rape Hell: Life in Islamic France.

Here and Here are Times articles on the phenonenom of grooming in England’s northern towns.  The left, which includes our politically-run police “services”, has demonstrated a remarkable disinterest in the issue.  Likewise, the national media was remarkably resistant to reporting the killing of 14-year old Charlene Downes.

What are your ethnic interests, Ken?  Are you living in the West?  Are you of European descent (ie not Jewish, not a half-caste)?

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Posted by Lurker on January 27, 2008, 12:25 PM | #

Ken - if there is no substance to the belief that muslims are prone to rape non-muslim women in Sweden or elsewhere then our politically correct masters ought to publish the crime statistics that bear this out.

They are quick enough to condemn ‘racist’ assertions about non-white criminality one would think the easiest way to lay this to rest is to give us the facts. In practice they tend to avoid much discussion of it all. I find this telling.

Of course that leaves us with rather too much anecdote and not enough data. Yet the multiculturalists are the ones in charge, they have the data or could collect if they wanted to. So its not a simple matter of your anecdote vs mine, the multicultis choose to rely on anecdote, our side want the data published.

So who do you think is being dishonest?

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on January 27, 2008, 12:39 PM | #

Outstanding comment just above by Lurker replying to the Canadian non-entity Ken.

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Posted by Mahmoud on January 27, 2008, 03:41 PM | #

Salam Alekom all (Peace Upon you all),
I know that when you will see my name at the begining you will be ready to attack as thinking am your natural enemy but beleive me amnot your enemy at all and i have Christian friend all over the world and we are in good strong relations. My friends am not here to defend Islam as it is so strong enough to protect it self although there are many attacks on it!!!! am here to try to give you my hand to help you try to read about any thing in your culture and in islam and try to compare both but objectively please!!!! have you ever found a muslim attacks christ “Jesus” person or his christianity???please be objective, this is islam iwthout being judged with muslims, as muslims are just a reflection of islam but te case is to succeed to reflectislam. In your culture what is a woman, she is just away out and out put of your lusts and after married or growing up she responsible for her self, while in islam she is a queen to be served and helping her to bring up children with all her full rights, Please dont be subjective but be objective and read about Islam and it view point of dealing with non muslims, please respect us and our religion as we respect you as much as we can please please
Sign
A muslim tries to say what is Islam

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Posted by Lizzy on January 28, 2008, 02:30 AM | #

I was in Sweden when I joined the discussion on this topic. And I knew what was going on in Sweden indeed. Now as I finished my studies, I moved out of this country. Still I do have wonderful memories about this country. Everything was near to perfect. Sweden is not the only western European country, I have lived in. Though it is only country , I felt in full security, even when I walked in the streets at night alone. Though, dont exaggerate the real situation pls.

Recently, I have read a book of an award wining economist, titled Freakonomics. Which says that the most powerful thing in the world is information. And everything depends on how people use or abuse information. In fact it was discovered in his book that many times in America, statistics about different things doubled and tripled when they were presented to poeple. So, as I see it happens here as well. You do have one or two incidents and try use it as a catastrophe?

happy talkings!

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Posted by silver on January 28, 2008, 05:24 AM | #

Lizzy, a point made in the comments is that information is not only being “abused”, it is being outright “denied.”  We simply don’t know the precise extent of Arab/African/Muslim rape because the authorities withhold that information, or perhaps don’t even collect it.  Thus we have to rely on less accurate estimates.  If the authorities were really concerned that we have the facts wrong, the matter could be brought to an immediate close by providing the correct facts. Again, as was said, that they do not is itself telling.

In any case, why do you insist on defending Islam?  If the views expressed in this site offend you, remember that Islam not only violates what people here wish to preserve, but it violates the very liberal principles on which it was ever permitted presence in western countries—and it violates them quite brazenly.


Mahmoud, enjoy: http://nordish.net/mohammed_image_archive/extreme_mohammed/  (Lizzy, what do you imagine Mahmoud’s reaction to this link might be?  Would he take it as a western Christian is supposed to react to “Pissed Christ”, ie, grin and bear it?  If not, shouldn’t that sound some alarm bells?)

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Posted by Lizzy on January 28, 2008, 07:58 AM | #

Oh my Godness, so much hate is in you that, you dont even know how to express it. Not a one of this pictures offended me ( I am a proud Muslim). It is because, Mohammed is so much higher from all of these that, no one and nothing can damage his reputation. The only thing I understood is that I must be careful next time I am in western Europe. Not everthing is as perfect and safe as I had been thinking. I am afraid of coming accross the horny people who drew these cartoons.


errare humanum est!
We should rely on God’s mercy!

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Posted by silver on January 28, 2008, 09:43 AM | #

I am a proud Muslim

Then proudly consider yourself my implaccable enemy.

The only thing I understood is that I must be careful next time I am in western Europe. Not everthing is as perfect and safe as I had been thinking.

Quite true. There is no place for Islam in Europe.  A conflagration must ensue and Islam must be eradicated or at least so subdued that it barely risk uttering its name.

There is some irony in your describing how safe the streets were to walk for you alone at night.  It is not Muslims who need fear for their safety, it is the native Swedes.

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Posted by Lizzy on January 28, 2008, 10:20 AM | #

Wow so much hate! I should disappoint you my “dear”, I have lived in Europe, and Sweden for me just second home and I will visit this country or any other European as many times as I would like. I have true Swedish and othe European friends. So I am fine in Europe. Bad news for you: I might even move to Europe. And whenever I am in Europe I try to represent true Islam, how it is indeed! Yeah, also thanks for warning me. I will be careful whith people who share your opinion. Just could you pls do more favour for me, let me know who do typical you people look like?

thanks in advance! smile)

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Posted by GoyAmongYou on January 28, 2008, 12:06 PM | #

If this Lizzy character is a bona fide Muslimette, I’m a proud Jesuit.

I’ve been reading/posting on the Internet since the late ‘98 and I can almost SMELL these phonies over the lines. It’s a gift I guess, but it can be trained too.

Hint: irony and sarcasm is as un-Islamic as it gets.

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Posted by GoyAmongYou on January 28, 2008, 12:43 PM | #

First of all, I’m muslim

[...]

Posted by Sandbomb on Saturday, September 8, 2007 at 10:08 AM

LOL!

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Posted by Lizzy on January 29, 2008, 02:44 AM | #

GoyAmongYouette, you might be a Jesuit or Mr Akai, I dont care! But you are for sure not a person who can SMELL anything over the internet! I am a Muslim born into a Muslim familiy( even not converted one). So, you are WRONG, Mr Smeller!

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Posted by Steve Edwards on January 29, 2008, 05:04 AM | #

“Mohammed is so much higher from all of these that, no one and nothing can damage his reputation…”

True enough - I can’t think of too many things that could damage the reputation of a confirmed paedophile either.

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Posted by Steve Edwards on January 29, 2008, 05:06 AM | #

“Hint: irony and sarcasm is as un-Islamic as it gets.”

Precisely. Irony is utterly lost on the ardent literalist.

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Posted by VLC on January 30, 2008, 05:00 PM | #

have you heard the latest ? In Norway a government agency recommends courses for immigrants to explain to them that raping women is wrong.

“Will you please stop raping women ? Please ? ...OK ? come on”


http://islamineurope.blogspot.com/2008/01/norway-rape-council-suggests-courses.html

The Norwegian Rape Council (Voldtektsutvalget), a gov’t authority with representatives from the police, prosecution, health services, research community and support groups, published its report about rape in Norway yesterday. Their report states that just 10% of rapes are reported. Less than 1% of rapists are sentenced. The vulnerable groups: immigrants, prostitutes and men, barely report rapes.

The Rape Council suggests that immigrants (responsible for 65% of rapes in Oslo), and specifically non-Western immigrants, be taught about Norwegian attitudes, limit-setting and culture, under the themes of rape and equality. This can be done as part of the introduction course these immigrants go through anyway. Immigrant women should become acquainted with their rights in Norway.

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Posted by torgrim on January 30, 2008, 09:09 PM | #

“Their report states that just 10% of rapes are reported. Less than 1% of rapists are sentenced.”

When you cannot protect your women from an alien people and your only response is a pathetic, limp wristed attempt at explaining to the guest, that they abide by the host’s rules while in their “Home”...well then the Government has abdicated it’s responsibility and hense, it’s legitimacy.

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Posted by JM on February 01, 2008, 04:09 PM | #

Islamic misogyny is intolerable.

There is absolutely no justification for the barbarism espoused by this mindset. None.

This bullshit “religion” must be completely eradicated before it destroys the world.

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Posted by Neo Viking on February 02, 2008, 01:53 AM | #

I am sick and tired of Muslims raping and pillaging the lands of the west with their vile view of the world.  Not all Muslims are evil doers, but these non-violent Muslims are more concerned with business and civilization, these are also known as moderate Muslims.  Guess what though?  They are a severe minority.  The facts are that the most brutal acts on this earth are being committed and condoned by Muslims.  Look at 9/11, on that day, Muslims all over the world were cheering.  And if you think I’m lying, then look online for video from those countries from that time, and you will see people cheering and dancing in the streets, and burning American flags.  Even after it was said that over 3,000 civilians were murdered!  It is a religion in mental illness.  A religion that speaks of rape, and murder as doctrine is evil, I mean Islam was founded on war and conquest!  Their prophet was a warlord, leading armies through out the Arab peninsula, and killing countless numbers.  Their holy book tells of this!
  You can’t tell me it is peaceful, or that any good will come from it.  Look at Europe, there are so many places that westerners cannot even go to because it is ruled by “Islamic Law”, and Europeans will be beaten, raped or murdered if they go there.  I was in London, and mistakenly entered the Bayswater district, and was followed my a group of Arab males for a good 10 minutes, and I finally lost them in the tube.  he only reason I feel they didn’t try to attack me was because I’m 1.8 m tall and 105 kilos, so I think they were a little intimidated by Viking blood, but it was not right non the less.  I am western, I deserve to be free in a western nation!  As do all ethnic Europeans!  Our women are to here for your ravaging, and are not here for your tormenting!  We will defend our people from the Muslim hordes, just as we did hundreds of years ago.  Muslims have their own homes, let them live there!
  Fear the Vikings.

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Posted by Mustafa on February 12, 2008, 06:20 PM | #

regarding this article, i found it to be very racial and biast. the author have expressed his/her personal feelings rather than the facts, i understand there were quite a few problems with muslim guys, but that doesnt mean most muslim people are bad.
Mohammed did NOT rape his slaves or what ever you claimed. Mohammed had four wives. in islam there is no such thing as SLAVES, slaves are more common in the western society.
Islam consider rape to be a major sin, therefore; those four teens did what they wanted not because of the religion, infact they did it because they wanted to do.
that Religious man who have touched on “raping swedish girls is fine, but not arabs”
have definitly said things that even shocked me when i read the article. Islam does NOT allow those things what so ever.
i live in Canada, rape and suicide ratio here is large, but from this common act, you can barely found a muslim guy to be part of it, i didnt say NEVER but i said RARELY.
rape happens everywhere in the world and if any religious man says its alright for it to happen, then he definitly wrong, and should not be called a religious man infact he should be called an ignorent idiot.
so again, this author of this article was generalizing muslim people and islamic community as rapists, which is by far away from the truth. maybe he/she said that because he/she experienced that situation by a muslim fella, therefore, this article was majorly concerning this particular sect.

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Posted by captainchaos on February 12, 2008, 06:57 PM | #

To Mustafa:

Whites do not generally like to live around non-whites, thats why we always me away when you guys move into our neighborhoods.

Why don’t we like to live around you?  Because you act like subhuman animals thats why. 

Get out of our countries and go back to your own before its too late!

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Posted by Mustafa on February 12, 2008, 07:09 PM | #

listen Neo Viking.
9/11 was because of muslims infact by CIA
go read the fact before you try to be a smart ass.
i’ve been in North American and Europe for 13 years, and i know many muslim people, the truth is muslim people are helpful but u always get the bad ones.
VISIT THIS LINK THEN COME AND SAY THIS CRAP YOU WERE SAYING.

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=5651675924179685534

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Posted by Mustafa on February 12, 2008, 07:16 PM | #

hahaha captain…
well thats good, thats what i calll mutual respect, when we come u leave.
we build a major part of the western society. so go Fu"k your self. you ignorent idiot.
lol at least you dont see us raping and fucking infront of everyone, we have respect for ourselves.
look at the suicide ration and then open ur dirty mouth.
we aint animals we are your masters.
piece

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Posted by Desmond Jones on February 12, 2008, 07:32 PM | #

Mustafa,

Where do you live? Mississauga?

we build a major part of the western society.

Why don’t you build it in you own country? Why do you come to Canada if we are unclean animals?

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Posted by Mustafa on February 12, 2008, 09:14 PM | #

jones.
ya read the history of spain, denemark and other european countries, READ before you SPEAK please.
lol, if u consider us animals then ya ur under us. i didnt, that idiot captaincrap mentioned that.
ignorent people are many, and honestly i dont give a shit what people thinks, many muslim people are engineers and doctors in canada, and im a med. school student in canada. i dont see too many racist people here, but im sure there are all around but they keep it inside.
i’ve been in canada for almost all my life, so im canadian, but the fact that due to some racist individuals, all muslim sect began to be judged unfairly.
no i dont live in ontario, and it doesnt really matter which province i live in (no ones business).
dont come and try to be funny and tell me that muslims and arabs had nothing to do with the world, WE are the people who invented math, algebra and too many other things to list.
canada isnt white people’s land neither arabs, muslims, or christians, its the INDIANS (natives) so we all took their land.
thanks for you response though

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Posted by silver on February 12, 2008, 09:38 PM | #

and im a med. school student in canada.

The crazy thing is this may very well be true.

By Jove liberals need to be hanged high.

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Posted by Desmond Jones on February 12, 2008, 10:05 PM | #

Mustafa,

Why did your parents come to Canada? Why don’t you be a Doctor or Engineer in your own country? The Indians didn’t build the university you attend. Neither did they build the economy that Muslim engineers benefit from in Canada. Why does a devout man of God lie about such things?

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Posted by Mustafa on February 12, 2008, 10:34 PM | #

lol yes sadly, i will be the one who will save you from death one day mr Jove…


jones.
no they didnt neither your have.
im not indian so get it right, im from middle east, and at this moment the situation there isnt good, US ecomony is greatly influenced from iraq’s ecomony, so i have the right to live here more than you or anyone, cuz canada and US using iraqs oil (money) so why should i leave. millions yet billions of dollars are brought daily to the US from the oil from iraq (arabic country), and you guys are benefiting from it. so i have as much right to live here as you do if not more.
dont tell me you are canadian, because even if u were born here so as ur parents, look at your great, great….., great grand parents
as i told u i’ve been here almost all my life, so the life style im adapted to, could be different than the life there.
honestly i’ve been really respectful and responsive to all your comments and…
and im pretty sure if i was asking a white fella that, they would say
“why should i fucking answer that you paki”. thats the diff between educated people and people followers.

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Posted by Mustafa on February 12, 2008, 10:37 PM | #

lol yes sadly, i will be the one who will save you from death one day mr Jove…

sorry it was to SILVER not Jove…

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Posted by silver on February 12, 2008, 11:23 PM | #

Mustafa, I failed to consider the possibility that you might reside in Quebec.  For someone who has lived most of his life in Canada, that would be the only satisfactory explanation for English as atrocious as yours. 

Of course, for non-Muslims to grant Muslims leave to remain indefinitely in their countries is simply insane in any case, irrespective of their language abilities.  You may not notice the deep revulsion that people share for your kind because their own traitorous governments criminalise any expression of it.  But it is there.  And if there is any justice in this world, you will become aware of it before all is said and done.

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Posted by Mustafa on February 13, 2008, 12:03 AM | #

lol silver,
good for you, your thinking.
well before making your assumption you should have asked how old am i, just a hint; you probably the age of my dad, well i speak 3 langs, arabic, french and english, when you speak the three langs as good as i do, then come back and talk about my lang. infact four langs because i forgot that medicine is a lang itself.
but thank you, i preciate it when people comment about lang, it shows how little minded they are.
well no one can do anything about our leaders, and do u think now it matters whether people like or dislike us. there are people who are filled with hatred and evil like you, but dont generalize, because those people are few, and considered as NOTHING.
my kind and your kind are the same, we all are the same, we all came from one father and mother (adam and eve) so ur kind isnt superior to any other kind. this infact conveys how ignorent you are. but its good to hear the view points of others especially your kind.
probably you wont be able to aware me of justice, because justice will not be found in our generation neither the next one, all we can do is hope for it.

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Posted by GoyAmongYou on February 15, 2008, 10:22 AM | #

GoyAmongYouette, you might be a Jesuit or Mr Akai, I dont care! But you are for sure not a person who can SMELL anything over the internet! I am a Muslim born into a Muslim familiy( even not converted one). So, you are WRONG, Mr Smeller!

Posted by Lizzy on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 at 06:44 AM

Oh, I see… You were “born into it”, not “converted”
Hmmm… a Bona Fide Mueslimette, indeed.
100% certified non-Kaffir

“Lizzette the Whippette, Whiplasher of Kaffirs”

Sorry for the misunderstanding, madam.

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Posted by Dean on March 04, 2008, 05:22 AM | #

To the various Arabic people commenting here,


Your views towards woman and western culture sound developed and created out

of a heavy exposure to the Internet.

These views are entirely incomplete, distorted and skewed.


In short, this is again…. ignorance…


However sadly i see the same from us Westerners.


So much hatred, over what is so very obviously a limited, incomplete and entirely

incorrect view of the realities of each owns’ culture.

 

Yes, there is disgusting and degrading pornography of all forms out there , but these

are perpetrated by deviate minorities , not the majority.


However the redeeming quality that Western society will ALWAYS HAVE over Islam is  


FREEDOM OF CHOICE!.

 

This is the underlying structure. 

YOU ALWAYS HAVE CHOICE IN WESTERN SOCIETIES…. ALWAYS!.


You give Arabic woman NO CHOICE!.......you dictate to them what their life path will

be, with no alternative option for them to achieve greatness or option for transcending

their personal circumstances.


This is what is appalling about the Islamic Belief system.

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Posted by Matra on March 09, 2008, 12:01 AM | #

The events of the past couple of weeks show, once again, how Denmark is willing to stand up to Muslims. So what’s the story with their Swedish neighbours? A correspondent at the Irish Savant blog writes the following:

For many years Scandinavians have wondered what kept the Swedish press from reporting the Muslim atrocities that take place every day and that threaten to tear the country apart. Now the truth is out: The conspiracy that hid the effects of multi culture from public view:

The “Lilla Saltsjöbadavtalet” 1985 as reported by SwedenWatchQuoteOn march 21’st 1987 a remarkable conference was held at the Saltsjöbaden (the salt water spa) resort near Stockholm. A set of rules were adopted by the Swedish Journalists Club at their meeting there, rules applies to all journalists working for Swedish media.

These rules are commonly referred to as the “Lilla Saltsjöbadavtalet” (The little salt sea spa agreement).The agreement was supposed to be kept a secret, but as has happened with most of the state manipulated reporting on the multi cultural project, the truth has come out.The agreed rules were as follows:

“As an independent journalist, you must observe the following recommendations:Report positively, if necessary rename, fellow Swedes of foreign origin. In particular, this must be observed when reporting on activities related to youth, sports and art.

When reporting from events involving different cultures, interview and put visual focus on people of foreign descent. For a period of five years, you must systematically and consistently refrain from reporting on negative aspects like crime that can identify any religious or racial affiliation of the involved or can have a negative effect upon a population as a whole.” (The language is really as clumsy as that)

The five year period has been extended several times and the agreement, with cosmetic and linguistics refinements are in effect up to this day.When asked, the journalists admit that the meeting took place, but they are reluctant to discuss what were actually said during the conference.

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Posted by Lurker on March 09, 2008, 01:09 AM | #

It wouldnt take much to believe that most journalists (in the west) subscribed to similar informal rules.

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Posted by Drew on April 02, 2008, 11:47 AM | #

The article is about higher number of rapes being caused by mass
immigration of Moroccans and Tunisians. The easy thing
to do is to throw them out and make more white babies.

I am American and have been to Europe. I was angry at seeing how few of the white people there
have any babies. They are weak. American whites are getting weak
too, because they are selfish and only care about partying or spending on themselves.
They don’t seem to get it. A person needs to have babies in order to be strong.
All this nonsense about self centered partying
and having lots of sex partners and using drugs is destroying white people. It’s what they chose to do with freedom instead of something good.
White people need to take their money and freedom and do something good with it because otherwise it’s all going to end.  Crap immigrants are learning that freedom equals weakness from what’s going on right now and they may be right.

The Arabs posting on this website have a small sense of survival. The white’s debating them seem to have none.  Arab’s life may be dark and small because they don’t love, only reproducing like rats, but they do reproduce!
Whay are low immigrant people are taking over? Will they win at this game and how bad is that for the world?
Could white people better stop the flow by not partying and starting to study everyday? Stop screwing everyone and jacking off constantly? Being a serious person,
find a serious person, get married, and make a serious living, being a loving parent? Playing sports and not smoking Arab hash?
These rapes happen where? Alcoholic places, discos, shit traps that take money! Shouldn’t these white daughters be saving money, starting family businesses, not purchasing 6 euro drinks? Why are whites squandered their freedom and power by being idiotic? How can this stop? Step one: no more drugs and alcohol, find something better. No Arab is going to assault a woman at the library, because they can’t read anything but the koran.

And to the European house music listening whites who complain about America invading Iraq. Take the Moroccan hash joint out of your mouth and become part of the world if you don’t like the way it’s going. At least Americans do something. You wouldn’t be enjoying internet if the US military hadn’t engineered DARPA. You wouldn’t be flying to Phuket Thailand if the Vietnam war hadn’t kept the communists out of there, so think twice before you criticize war, because war is good business. Look at the war the Arabs are making on you weaklings!

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Posted by onlooker on April 02, 2008, 12:40 PM | #

Drew, you seem to get it. How refreshing! But unfortunately most people that post on WN websites fervently beleive its the hidden hand of the Jew that is causing the demise of the White race.  But the flaw in their thinking is: Jews wouldn’t have any power to corrupt the West unless we willingly corporate and give them their power to reign over us. Simple concept, no?

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Posted by Peter on April 02, 2008, 06:30 PM | #

OMG Drew your somewhat right but what about the gays? Should they adopt White babies? thinking of that did you hear that outrageous news of the French whites trying to “smuggle” Black children to adopt. Aren’t there any white French orphans in France?
Oh yeah I wouldn’t mind having a baby with my White husband…ooh so romantic! off course i cannot produce a baby (uhm not like a female can) but i can adopt a white baby! awww so cute smile
ok i am off to la la land now bye

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Posted by onlooker on April 02, 2008, 07:24 PM | #

Peter is encouraged to stick around because Fred Scrooby was playing footsie with him on this thread:

http://majorityrights.com/index.php/weblog/comments/the_mind_of_obama/

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Posted by Peter on April 02, 2008, 10:41 PM | #

onlooker Darling i like you too wink wink wink
Thats what you get for “picking” on Fred Scrooby! He is a nice guy leave him alone.

Stick around? Sweetie i am not going anywhere. This site is so interesting and i love to see the “crossfire” between different “groups” of people. You know not actively participate but enjoy other people going at it like in this post. I have such a laugh. Regarding this post all i am going to say is you guys get what you deserve for being “stupid”! ok that was a little mean….But certain groups of people will always bring their “prehistoric mentalities” with them. hint hint.
May i add i bring a whole new/different perspective to this post. I am not Muslim and not “White European” and so on.
Although some of the things mentioned were harsh i still side with you guys (older, White men - Why are they all around me?) I am just joking it can be a good thing. 
Anyways Have a great day all you wonderful people! All the best from me smile I love you all (I just had to add that in)

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Posted by Suffering Groups of Industrial Entrepreneurs of Ba on April 10, 2008, 11:17 AM | #

An appeal to Protect and Save Us from Oppressive Law  
Dear Sir / Madam
Bangladesh of South Asia where about 35 to 40 % people living below Poverty line and are increasing gradually ,  Flood , Food Crisis, are common , Population are 150 million. Available Land area is less then IOWA STATE of USA… 
From 1972 after Independence many Citizens started to establish small & medium size Industries investing family resources to achieve Economic Freedom Through Technological Supremacy and to create job for millions of un employed, Government also supported these Industries out of fund received from INTERNATIONAL LOAN GIVING AGENCIES or DONOR GROUP FROM 1980
But the Bank Official refrain from completing appraisal of PRODUCTION CAPACITY of installed machineries or supply working capital year after year throwing almost all the Industries out of production. 
In 1992 & 1996 these Industries were Identified and Registered by the Government as DISTRESSED / SICK INDUSTRIERS, and victims of Violation of Contract, Negligence, Fraudulent Activities, and Malpractices including abuse of power of Bank Officials / Policy Maker. As a result Owners of such Industries lost their Cash Capital, Expatriate Capabilities, and became helpless and victims of conspiracy to futile Industrialization Policy the as well to destroy the Private Sector Industries. Of Bangladesh
Owner of Private Sector Industries are deprived of LEGAL RIGHT due to enactment of BANK RUPTCY ACT in 1997 and ARTHA RIN ACT of 2003, any opportunity to claim compensation on the SUIT FILED BY BANKS FOR VIOLATION OF CONTRACT or to prove the matter of NEGLEGIENCES ,  MALPRACTICES,  FRADULENT ACTIVITIES, ABUSE OF POWER BY BANK OFFICIAL or POLICY MAKER have also been closed in the above mentioned oppressive laws which are directly contradictory of ARTICLE 15 ; 26 and 27 of BANGLADESH CONSTITUTION. . 
THE RIGHT OF EQUITY OF LAW HAVE COMPLETELY BEEN CLOSED FOR THE OWNERS of Private Sector as per Section 18, 19,  20, 34, 41, 42, 44, 47   and 50 of ARTHA RIN ACT of 2003.
And similarly the door of Higher Court have also been closed imposing some impossible terms & condition knowing the consequences. And in the BANKRUPTCY ACT of 1997 is also similarly treated the Industrial Entrepreneurs like as a Slave by the appointed RECEIVER.
These are example of laws how the citizen are deprived of the legal right & are forced to accept the Oppressive Laws in the name of DEMOCRACY or FREE ECONOMY or Globalization .And it also seems to have directed the Courts to work as Subordinate Office of Bank Manager,                  IN ARTHA RIN ACT of 2003 total immunity & protection have been given to hide out Malpractices, Fraudulent Activities of Banking Sector &  of Policy Maker. Owner of Private Sector are Direct Victims of these Oppressive Laws due to LACK OF ACCOUNTABILITY at every where from the Banks to the office of the Land Survey Department  
There are no other option but to draw the attention of Concerned Authority including all International Community / Organizations to come forward to save and protect the OWNER &  Their properties from such oppressive laws. 
Or alternately all suits under above laws may immediately be transferred to CIVIL COMMERCIAL COURTS for open trial with equal opportunity and right of both the parties for fixing up the responsibility and liabilities of the Parties, .
Or the above mention SECTIONS OF ARTHA RIN ACTS of 2003 should be abolish to ensure fair Judgment as well to unearth or expose the negligence,  malpractices and fraudulent activities including   of Banking Sector or to grant unconditional weaver from any liabilities for Identified and Registered Distressed / Sick   Industries of 1992 and 1996.
We would request your good self also to kindly collect the PRINTED COPIES OF THE ABOVE MENTIONED LAWS for confirmation of facts and assesses the mental build up of law Maker of Bangladesh And to kindly circulate our appeal among Honorable Member of your Organization and Partner’s Organizations and Publish in News Bulletin or News Media, Electronic Media to bring to the knowledge of all International COMMUNITY / ORGANIZATION working for HUMAN RIGHT &  Democratic Right to help and support to protect the Owner of the Distressed / Sick Industries of Private sector and their properties from such OPPRESSIVE LAWS .
Suffering Groups of Industrial Entrepreneurs of Bangladesh

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Posted by John Smith - American on April 28, 2008, 04:29 PM | #

I’m sorry, but Swedish girls are my favorite girls in the entire world and to hear you Swedes prattle on as if this is not a big deal confounds me???

In America, if a specific population, be it white, black, asian,or arab was going around raping young girls, we would CRACK DOWN ON THEM SO FAST their populations would thin!  And I mean that literally.

I have the UTMOST respect for Swedish culture, inventions (AMAZING!), people (beautiful/awesome), and on.  I think it is you Swedes who do not respect YOURSELVES enough to be INCENSED at these rapes!!!

If someone raped my sister, my mother, or any one related to me we (Americans) would drag him from his home (or hire a professional) and deal with it DIRECTLY!

In America we prefer our crime organized and our terrorism sanctioned.  Ok that was a joke, but that is the way it seems.

I don’t mean to offend, I just REALLY have the UTMOST respect for the Swedish people and am angered that these Muslims are getting away with rape!  We all know what’s next on this gravy train.  First comes rape, then comes…MURDER…

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Posted by Robert Reis on April 28, 2008, 11:06 PM | #

The overwhelming majority of the population of native Swedes make rabbits look agressive. Their goal is to die out gracefullu in state sponsored nursing homes while being waited on by the immmigrant staff.

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Posted by Laptoper on May 14, 2008, 04:04 AM | #

Why do you rape Muslims?

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Posted by anticitizen1 on May 19, 2008, 08:40 AM | #

Al Ross believe me we will defeat fu*king muslims.You re dying under US bombs.And still fighting with each other.And we have 143 mio of population.New government will be more tough with muslim minorities.We have the right not just on our asian territory but on the whole Asia.

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Posted by saying-truth on June 25, 2008, 09:53 AM | #

Hi everyone
I am an arabic muslim, i always hear that sweden is a great country with high quality of life, however i feel very sad and sorry for the rise in crime rates commited by immigrants. I believe that the source of the problem is accepting people with criminal backgrounds who are not even welcomed in their native homelands. Everyone is responsible for his own behavoiur, in my country that is kuwait if a foriegner is causing problems we send him to his country straight away, why you cant do the same? i read about the poor woman raped by somalis, if they were in saudi arabia they would have been executed !! we should judge people by their nature and actions not by their race or religion

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on June 25, 2008, 05:34 PM | #

“in my country, that is, kuwait, if a foriegner is causing problems we send him to his country straight away, why you cant do the same?”  (—saying-truth)

Good goddamn question.

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Posted by Basse on July 11, 2008, 04:56 PM | #

Well one of the guys who raped her, got raped in jail later so!
Hahaha pay back is a bitch.

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Posted by WHITEMAN on August 21, 2008, 11:48 AM | #

“in my country, that is, kuwait, if a foriegner is causing problems we send him to his country straight away, why you cant do the same?”


BECAUSE KUWAIT ISN’T OWNED AND OPERATED BY JEWS.

JEWS OWN THE WEST AND THEIR GOAL IS TO DESTROY THE WHITE RACE BY MEANS OF THIRD WORLD IMMIGRATION.

ANYBODY WHO IS AGAINST IMMIGRATION IS AUTOMATICALLY BRANDED A “NEO-NAZI” BY THE JEWISH MEDIA.

ALL WESTERN POLITICIANS SERVE THE JEWNO WESTERN POLITICIANS SERVE THE PEOPLE.

THAT’S WHY “OUR” GOVERNMENTS NOT ONLY ACCEPT THIS THIRD WORLD SHIT BY THE MILLIONS, BUT ALSO USE OUR FUCKING TAX DOLLARS TO FEED THEM, HOUSE THEM, CLOTHE THEM AND PROTECT THEM IN THEIR CRIMES!

THE WHITE MAN GETS NO FUCKING PROTECTION FROM THE GOVERNMENT!  NONE!

WAKE UP, GOYIM!  JEWS ARE NOT WHITE! 

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Posted by WHITEMAN on August 21, 2008, 12:10 PM | #

ALL YOU STUPID GOYIM LOOK AT THE FOLLOWING LINK TO SEE HOW THE JEW DISTORTS THE TRUTH!

http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=78605

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on August 21, 2008, 12:38 PM | #

JEWS ARE NOT WHITE!  (—WHITEMAN)

Google “Leonard J. Fein” Jews not white.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on August 21, 2008, 01:44 PM | #

Click on the VNN thread “WHITEMAN” links in his second post above.  Check it out, it’s worth it.

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Posted by Guessedworker on August 21, 2008, 03:07 PM | #

Don’t encourage him, Fred.  I made a request on this thread dated January 22, 2008 at 08:47 PM.  I would like it to be respected

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Posted by sand_man on September 20, 2008, 08:55 PM | #

This article sucks

I am sorry for all who are raped, but to state its mainly muslims raping in Europe is just Rubbish.
If you go to islamic countries you wont even hear of rape crimes because it hardly happens, and the ignorants here might say “O, your women dont report it”, and that is not true.
If a man cought of a rape crime he knows he will be hanged, or tortured in prison until death, hence why it hardly happens there.
I hate articles like this when they have no solid facts.
I live in England and everyday we hear stories of english men raping girls as young as 6 or 9 and even priests do it, but i wont claim that all christians or english people are sick and evil.
Go learn how to present your facts before you write such shallow article.
People who rape are mentally disturbed and evil but that doesnt mean religion, they are just sick and the ones that exist are in all countries not just muslim countries.

In fact USA has the highest rape cases in the world, and most knowledgable persons will tell you that its down to drugs and alcohol.
I am a muslim and i married a Swedish girl, if she is as dumb as you then this world will be a terrible place to live in.

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Posted by Dave Johns on September 20, 2008, 09:25 PM | #

“If you go to islamic countries you wont even hear of rape crimes because it hardly happens”—sand_man

That’s because all the muslim men spend most of their time sniffing each others butts while praying to that goofy moon god. In between butt sniffs, they’re assembly bombs for suicide bombers.

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Posted by Captainchaos on September 20, 2008, 09:43 PM | #

“I am a muslim and i married a Swedish girl, if she is as dumb as you then this world will be a terrible place to live in.” - sand man

Your very presence in our lands is a threat to our genetic continuity.  You have taken one of a rapidly dwindling supply of White women of breeding age for yourself.  YOU, PERSONALLY, HAVE COMMITTED AN ACT OF GENOCIDE AGAINST OUR PEOPLE!

What is the just penalty for inflicting genocide on the White race?

“...hanged, or tortured in prison until death…”

That sounds about right to me.

But, since we are merciful, we will let you off easy.  Leave our White countries, NOW, and take your race traitor whore of a wife with you.

Oh yeah, and what makes you think that if your wife will betray her own blood by breeding with a non-White that she will not betray you?  LOL!

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Posted by Tired of Bioweapons (aka Fred Scrooby) on September 25, 2008, 05:47 PM | #

“Why don’t we clean up a little bit our beautiful Europe?  [...] I’m a Spaniard”  (—Manuel)

You guys cleaned it up effortlessly in 1492, Manuel.  Damn good job, too.  Now would be a great time for a little repeat performance. 

¡Viva España Blanca!

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Posted by John Funfat on November 29, 2008, 04:39 PM | #

These “men” want to turn their new home into the very shithole country that they left.

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Posted by Guest on November 29, 2008, 07:06 PM | #

Here in America we have a Christian rape wave, all those Christian negroes and Mexicans and Guatemalans and Ecuadorans, and Filipinos and etc ad nauseum

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Posted by Johnny Cowboy on December 07, 2008, 07:01 PM | #

This is why we keep and bear firearms in the US. The subhuman somali pieces of shit who raped would be dead by now.

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Posted by saif on December 25, 2008, 07:07 PM | #

Every race in this world have bad people and good people , then why when muslim do somthing wrong
, every say ohhh all muslim are terroriste and treat people badly , this is not true , islam is the religion of peace.

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Posted by sandmonkey on December 26, 2008, 02:24 AM | #

saif: “Every race in this world have bad people and good people , then why when muslim do somthing wrong, every say ohhh all muslim are terroriste and treat people badly , this is not true , islam is the religion of peace.”

Johnny Cowboy is right.  Any mudlim who violates a White woman deserves death.  Go back to your sand pile!

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Posted by Al Spanker on December 26, 2008, 01:37 PM | #

If WN has come down to such rank ignorance then there is no hope.

Almost all of the crimes cited here: http://newnation.org/
are committed by CHRISTIANS.

So is it the words of the Christ that is the evil then rather than the RACE of the fiends?


The Jewish agenda is strengthed by this constant and incessant pounding on a religion of Light, of Good.

Have alleged WNs so quickly forgotten that this struggle for our survival is about RACE not CREED?

The Arabic word ightisab (rape) refers to taking something wrongfully by force. It is now used exclusively to refer to transgression against the honor of women by force.

If Sweden would prefer Christians I suggest that they help themselves to taking the blacks and latino and asian christian population of this nation and enjoying the fruits. If it doesn’t work out blame Christ…

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Posted by chandra on January 03, 2009, 01:32 AM | #

Well, Fjordman,Particular events can’t be equated with general events . The posistion and the practices of immigrants should be throughly studied and strict action should be taken on those culprits.
 
  Muslim culprits should be punished strictly as per their religious codes of conduct.some views of Mr.Daud Kadir like the role of prono industry can’t be neglectd.
I request other commentators to stick to the topic .

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Posted by Dominic on January 13, 2009, 02:46 PM | #

Ammazzateli tutti! cool mad KILL the immigrate!

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Posted by Dharma Chakra on January 13, 2009, 03:20 PM | #

No need to argue over “muslim rape”, “christian rape”, whatever rape.

RAPE IS RAPE.

Rape is performed by MEN.

There’s where the issue lies.

At the same time I am all for much stricter immigration laws for EVERY country.

Immigrants need to undergo cultural training before being allowed to enter ANY country, so that they can easily adjust and assimilate into the country of their choosing. 

Any rape performed by ANYONE should be punishable by DEATH.

Believe me, although it wouldn’t wipe rape off the face of the Earth entirely, it would bring down rape statistics worldwide.  They would plummet.  Especially incidences like date rape.

Date rapers should be put to death ESPECIALLY to teach a lesson to Frat boys who think they are somehow priveleged to any Sorority sis.

Death to rapists.

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Posted by Loriver on January 13, 2009, 03:50 PM | #

No need to argue over “muslim rape”, “christian rape”, whatever rape.
Posted by Dharma Chakra on January 13, 2009, 07:20 PM

Yes there is. Muslim rape can be interpreted as part of a general strategy of ethnic hostility of non-European muslim immigrants against the indigenous populations of Europe. As such, it is worthwhile our paying attention to it. Besides, there is no ‘Christian rape’ that I am aware of.

Two other things: firstly this kind of thing (non-white anti-social or anti-white behaviour) is under-reported in the MSM; and secondly stories such as this provide motivation to those white people who are not naturally and intuitively defensive of their ethnic kin.

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Posted by Dharma Chakra on January 13, 2009, 10:09 PM | #

Just because someone is born into a Muslim family does not mean they are a believing and practicing Muslim waging Jihad on Kaffirs.

When people commit acts of violence due to their beliefs, they usually state so or their actions say so.

A good example is when terrorists refer to Allah or Muhammed in the course of committing a crime.

These Somalians may have just been assholes.

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Posted by Freethinker on January 21, 2009, 12:22 PM | #

Islam is a cancer in Western society. Wherever in the world this cult is unleashed, human progress, freedom and tolerance give way to bigotry, backwardness , violence and misery. Thanks to leftist scum, pseudo-intellectuals and insane political trendsetters, the most prosperous countries in Europe have been flooded with the most backward primitive trash of humanity in a sick social experiment that has gone wrong. Even though the incompatibility of islam due to its inconsistency with democracy and Western values has become evident,  those responsible refuse to acknowledge their mistake. Instead they overdose us with even more muslims bending over backwards in the name of cultural relativity to accommodate civilized western society to this disgusting, primitive, oppressive cult. Critics are quickly labeled and marginalized as racists and islamofobics thus silencing any effort to openly debate the huge social problems that are a direct result of these irresponsible policies. This has led to an empowerment in the minds of the muslim newcomers that their culture and religion in spite of the fact that they were forced to flee from the sewers of humanity governed by the teachings of Muhammed , still is superior to that of the infidel that welcomes them, thus Western infidel ways are not to be accepted nor respected and integration is to be avoided by every means . When people lack respect and sympathy for someone they are also very likely to act disrespectfully and unacceptably towards that person, thus the rape of non-muslim females or other hate-crimes by musims on the non-muslim population originate in a conviction that muslims are entitled to misbehave as they are above any legislation governing the infidel lands. The direct cause and inspiration to this behaviour however are the teachings of the insane desert bandit Muhamed. Not only is sceptisism and caution advised when dealing with the unbelievers, verse after verse incites hate of the unbelievers and the degradation of women.

HATRED OF NON-MUSLIMS IN THE QURAN:

O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and be firm against them. Their abode is Hell,- an evil refuge indeed. Quran 9:73,

Oh ye who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers and let them find harshness in you. Quran 9:123: 

Kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from wherever they drove you out.  Quran 2:191-

Let not the believers take the disbelievers as Auliyâ (supporters, helpers, etc.) instead of the believers, and whoever does that will never be helped by Allâh in any way, except if you indeed fear a danger from them. And Allâh warns you against Himself (His Punishment), and to Allâh is the final return. Quran 3:28

The Prohibition of Supporting the Disbelievers as aproved by quotes ibn Kathir.

Allah said (unless you indeed fear a danger from them) meaning, except those believers who in some areas or times fear for their safety from the disbelievers. In this case, such believers are allowed to show friendship to the disbelievers outwardly, but never inwardly. For instance, Al-Bukhari recorded that Abu Ad-Darda’ said, “We smile in the face of some people although our hearts curse them.’’ Al-Bukhari said that Al-Hasan said, “The Tuqyah is allowed until the Day of Resurrection.’’

In Quran 25:44, Allah says that unbelievers are worse than cattle and
animals.

In Quran 2:65 Allah say that because the Jews broke the Sabbath He
transformed the them into apes and swine. Many Islamists living in the
West often attempt to soften this extreme insult by saying that this
transformation is just figurative, and it is not to be taken
seriously.

Because non-Muslims are worse than animals and cattle, it naturally
follows that their intelligence, knowledge, aptitude and talent are
also similar to animals. Thus, Allah says that the unbelievers are
deaf, dumb (stupid), and blind. In connection with verse 6:36 ibn
Kathir writes that being deaf and blind is the state of the
disbelievers.
Here are a few verses where Allah affirms that
unbelievers are deaf, dumb and blind Quran 6:39, 2:171, 7:179,
8:23, 24:40, 22:46, 46:26, 43:36 37,

HATRED OF WOMEN IN ISLAM:

The right to be beaten.
Islamic way of beating or flogging wives is striking at their padded areas to avoid breaking any bones. Here is an example how considerate our prophet was when he beat his wives on their padded parts.
Ayesha narrated. “He struck me on the chest which caused me pain. ”
(However if your wife is breast feeding , prefer to strike on her buttocks
Muslim Book 004, Number 2127

The right to be treated as diseased and as sex toys.
The Qur’an – 2:222; Sahahi Bukhari -3.31.172

The right to be used as a sowing field
The Qur’an – 2:223

The right to be treated as impure or as a drunk.
The Qur’an – 4:32; The Qur’an – 16:92

The right to be treated as a dog, a pig, a monkey, or an ass
Sahih Bukhari – 1.9.490, 493, 498 Sahih Muslim – 4.1039;
Sunaan Abu Dawud – 11.2155; Mishkat ul-Masabih – vol 2, p.114, Hadis no. 789

The right of ordinary women to be treated as crows
Ghazali – vol 2, p. 34

Women must keep their sexual organs ready at all times for the husband to enjoy them unhindered at any time—night or day
Sahih Bukhari – 4.54.460, 7.62.81; Sahih Muslim – 8.3367, 3368;
Ghazali – vol 2, p. 43

The right to be raped
A husband has the right to have sex with his wife by force
Hedaya – p. 141

Sex after flogginging your wife
The Prophet said, “None of you should flog his wife as he flogs a slave and then have sexual intercourse with her in the last part of the day.”
Ideally when you flog one of your wives, let her recuperate that day and sleep with your other wives or your slave girls. Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 132:
Narrated ‘Abdullah bin Zam’a

The above combined with the spineless appeasement and accommodation of islam without the requirements of reciprocation is the inspiration and source of the hostility towards Western society and the rape wave on our women.

The future I foresee is grim as demographics favor the parasitic muslim breeding machines within our borders. In 12-20 years time Sharia law will be forced down our throats,  the outbreak of civil war and violence in areas resisting islamization and ultimately a global war of unprecedented destruction between the civilized world and islam. Never the less it is essentual that the traitorous quasi-intellectuals and leftist scum that orchestrated the colonization and destruction of our civilization by people and cultures hostile to our heritage are held accountable for and tried for TREASON.

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Posted by Barker Black on January 21, 2009, 01:43 PM | #

Islam by itself is not the problem. It is the white Marxists, globalists/transnational progressives, and EU bureaucrats who facilitate Islam’s establishment and dominance in the West.  This is who we must target. I absolutely believe that we must first set our sights on the current power structure. It must be toppled and it must be replaced, by any means required. No need to go into details here and at this time, about what needs to be done. I too predict civil war, and if there were a way for me to hasten it, I would. But then again, the traitors in our midst are accomplishing this goal all by themselves, without any help from chaps like me. wink

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Posted by EL WHITEY on January 21, 2009, 04:29 PM | #

Poster above never heard of Christian rape? Check out the local prison, I would wager 95% of the rapists and murderers and child molesters are Christians.

Obama is a Christian. ENJOY!


John 7:13
    Howbeit no man spake openly of him for fear of the Jews.

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Posted by Freethinker on January 21, 2009, 08:35 PM | #

Posted by EL WHITEY on January 21, 2009, 08:29 PM

Poster above never heard of Christian rape? Check out the local prison, I would wager 95% of the rapists and murderers and child molesters are Christians.
Obama is a Christian. ENJOY!

Wager what you want, your numbers are from that ass that sits in for your brain. We have the statistics buddy but unfortunetly they are in Scandinavian languages so unless you convince me that you comprehend at least one or know someone that can translate for you, I am not going to link you to source material and statistics in Swedish, Danish or Norwegian to prove a point. You will have to make do with the exellent and informative entry by Fjordman. If you know anything about maths it would be clear to you that if representatives of a 5.4% strong religious minority are convicted rapists in 60-75% of the cases then the correct conclusion would be that they are grossly and disproportionately overrepresented for that crime. You could always whine that the Swedish men are raping to little to make muslims look bad but it wouldn´t really matter. The Swedes are 9.2 million and muslims aprox half a million individuals. If muslim men get turned down, many will use force to get sex. According to islam, they as men and muslims are ordained that right by allah.

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Posted by Dharma Chakra on January 21, 2009, 09:04 PM | #

Cultural training and sensitivity courses need to be taken and graduated in with honors before anyone should be allowed to immigrate anywhere.

Is there any reason why a citizen of any country should not speak it’s national language?  Yet there a many immigrant men from Eastern countries who will not allow their womenfolk to learn the national language, obtain drivers licenses or become employed.  They do not want their women to assimilate because they want to keep tight control on them.

Anyone who wishes to immigrate to any country must know the language first and show that they are employed or capable of being employed.  No government handouts.  I bet just that alone would cut the numbers in half.

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Posted by Freethinker on January 21, 2009, 10:06 PM | #

Posted by Barker Black on January 21, 2009, 05:43 PM |

Islam by itself is not the problem. It is the white Marxists, globalists/transnational progressives, and EU bureaucrats who facilitate Islam’s establishment and dominance in the West.  This is who we must target. I absolutely believe that we must first set our sights on the current power structure. It must be toppled and it must be replaced, by any means required. No need to go into details here and at this time, about what needs to be done. I too predict civil war, and if there were a way for me to hasten it, I would. But then again, the traitors in our midst are accomplishing this goal all by themselves, without any help from chaps like me.

 

The vile fanatical and intolerant nature of islam is in fact the problem, but it would not have become ours for a long time had not the above named in your entry set out to destroy the nation states of Europe, drowning them with people from a culture so extreme and different that integration even over a longer span of time is out of the question, thus in the long run giving rise to seperatism and the division of nations. The muslims have declared their unwillingness to integrate and adapt and instead demand Western society to accommodate and become more consitent with islam and sharia. However, I agree with your strategy that it is through politics we get to gain the most, as in Denmark, where the success of Dansk Folkeparti has changed things drastically in favour for the critics of multicultural madness. I too hate the treacherous ethnic self-loathing leftest bastards and quasi-humanists with their pathetic utilitarian dreams of a global Utopia forged through revolt, revolution and the loss of national identity and borders.

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Posted by Dharma Chakra on January 22, 2009, 01:28 AM | #

Several thousand Muslim Turks immigrated to the US in the late 1800s and early 1900s to work as coal miners in Appalachia and they assimilated just fine.  Something has changed between then and now.  We need to figure out what that is and change back.

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Posted by Freethinker on January 22, 2009, 10:09 AM | #

Posted by Dharma Chakra on January 22, 2009, 05:28 AM | #

Several thousand Muslim Turks immigrated to the US in the late 1800s and early 1900s to work as coal miners in Appalachia and they assimilated just fine.  Something has changed between then and now.  We need to figure out what that is and change back.

Not all Muslims are destroying the country and it seems like Secularism is the common factor.
The Iranians that fled from the madman Khomeini in the 70´s and Turks from the “European” parts of Turkey are well integrated, produvtive Muslim groups in Sweden that never cause any problems. For some reason it is always Arab, Somali and Bosniak names that come up when violent crimes are reported .

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Posted by Dharma Chakra on January 22, 2009, 03:25 PM | #

Regarding the people who fled Iran, and are still fleeing, many of them are Parsis, or Zorastrians.
They are amongst one of the most industrious groups in the world but their numbers are small and declining because they do not allow out-marriage.  A child from an out-marriage cannot be considered a true Parsi amongst the Orthodox.

Another group that fled Iran are the B’hais. 

Another group are Sunni Muslims, the secular minded ones especially.  Practically the entire population of University students in Iran would flee if they could.

Some Shias also have left.

Iranians are proud of their ancient culture but most tend to hate their government and the religious fanatics with a passion.

It’s a shame that their government has to keep people their by force, basically only allowing the religious minorities to leave in an effort to make it an entirely Shia state.  But even the majority of Shias do not like what is going on there.

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Posted by Kurt on January 22, 2009, 03:31 PM | #

Sweden loves the mulatto rapper with his Swede/Finnish mother, all those WHITE SWEDISH GIRLS drooling over him.

In the US the rapists and so on are christians.

So is Christianity the reason for the rapes, the murders, the assaults?

Sweden is a very unwholesome society like most of Europe.
Enjoy your PEOPLE OF COLOR but don’t blame their religion, I don’t blame Christ for the mestizos gunning down our White brothers in San Diego

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Posted by Freethinker on January 22, 2009, 05:41 PM | #

Posted by Kurt on January 22, 2009, 07:31 PM | #

Sweden loves the mulatto rapper with his Swede/Finnish mother, all those WHITE SWEDISH GIRLS drooling over him.

In the US the rapists and so on are christians.

So is Christianity the reason for the rapes, the murders, the assaults?

Sweden is a very unwholesome society like most of Europe.
Enjoy your PEOPLE OF COLOR but don’t blame their religion, I don’t blame Christ for the mestizos gunning down our White brothers in San Diego

Your Ali G imitation is lousy. Go sober up!

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Posted by Al Spanker on January 22, 2009, 05:49 PM | #

What typical semitic CRAP, tiresome the same trolls on every forum where White survival is discussed pushing the jews agenda of hating Muslims.

Fewer White survivalists are falling for it.

Go kiss REV WRIGHT if you love them so much.

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Posted by Freethinker on January 24, 2009, 01:55 PM | #

Posted by Al Spanker on January 22, 2009, 09:49 PM | #

What typical semitic CRAP, tiresome the same trolls on every forum where White survival is discussed pushing the jews agenda of hating Muslims.

Fewer White survivalists are falling for it.

Go kiss REV WRIGHT if you love them so much.

Poor little pinhead! It´s not the Jews that are raping our women and trying to turn our societies into islamized shitholes modelled on homelands governed by the laws of an insane child molesting prophet. Bugger off back to your Jew-hating Nazi forum, here the topic is the degenerating effects of muslim immigration on Western society.

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Posted by Emma K. on January 29, 2009, 09:03 PM | #

You’ll have to forgive me if I’m wrong, but this screams propaganda to me, whether it’s completely made up or exaggerated to create an impression.  The whole “the bad people who don’t look like us must be locked up because they’re raping our women” is a classic story that’s been tried in a variety of places, not to mention slavery-era United States.  This is not to say that particular incidents do not happen, but do we really have a trend here? I suspect it’s not. 
—-
Emma K.
San Diego personal injury lawyer

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Posted by q on January 29, 2009, 09:47 PM | #

“This is not to say that particular incidents do not happen ...”

Maybe so, Emma, but you have to admit the religion of Islam is pretty sick.

E.g.: When a chick shows a little ankle in an Islamic country, she gets beaten or worse. If a poor Islamic guy acually sees a chick’s ankle, god forbid, he’s in deep trouble too! WTF kind of freakin’ insanity is that?

Wahhabi Islam is the exact opposite of modern-secular-liberalism. But they both have one thing in common: they are volitional mental disorders.

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Posted by Lurker on January 30, 2009, 12:38 PM | #

Freethinker - you have to ask just how these muslims got to live amongst us in the first place.

It didnt just happen on its own.

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Posted by Emma K. on January 30, 2009, 01:03 AM | #

You’ll have to forgive me if I’m wrong, but this screams propaganda to me, whether it’s completely made up or exaggerated to create an impression.  The whole “the bad people who don’t look like us must be locked up because they’re raping our women” is a classic story that’s been tried in a variety of places, not to mention slavery-era United States.  This is not to say that particular incidents do not happen, but do we really have a trend here? I suspect it’s not. 
—-
Emma K.
San Diego personal injury lawyer

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Oh I see, now everyone´s an expert! Well Emma, you are entitled to your opinion, so too to your misconception, it is fully understood, after all, you don´t reside here. This is not propaganda Emma! I suggest you take a look at these articles by a few quite academically qualified people. I translated freely, the Google bar translation offered in the links below may to some extent be unsuccessful, in that case I suggest pasting the uninterpreted or faulty text into a translation engine of own choice.

By Lone Nörgaard, assistant professor, cand.mag Frederiksberg and Steen Raaschou, photografer, Köbenhavn

Can we as a society tolerate that it is so cheap to destroy a young woman’s life?

Asks today’s columnists.

Is there anything that any longer can incite people? We will have to make due and answer for ourselves-and yes, there is still much that can shock us, and get us to act for example to write columns and try to organize forces among like-minded people.

One of the phenomena at the moment and this deserves full attention, is the serious crime against women who are raped. This applies to rape in general and gang rape in particular. This is an offence of such a serious nature that it must be dealt with harshly. Not least because it is a type of abuse that is increasing in numbers and must be seen in close connection to the failure of immigration and integration policies.

We can not solve all the world’s problems, but we refuse to silently watch from the sidelines, while our society gradually is undermined by a culture and belief system that does not count women as equally valid citizens. And accusations of racism and xenophobia works no longer on us. They are moralists, set on the destruction of young womens lives. It is a documented fact that young immigrants are grotesquely over-represented in both the single and gang rape cases. The most recently published police statistics for the year 2001 looked like this: Immigrant participation for the entire country: 67 percent, in the Copenhagen area: 76 percent. The publication aroused protests and we have not since then seen ethnically specified rape statistics.

Sometimes it helps to keep the subject of the analysis at a distance to create a factual, non-emotional picture and rape in particular is a sensitive and emotive subject. Therefore, we in this column want to describe the (mass) rapes committed by young immigrant men, not in Denmark, but in Sweden, where these crimes have adopted an almost epidemic nature. Denmark has about 500 reported rapes a year, Sweden, 2 500. Police, Women’s advisory services and Aftonbladet (Largest evening newspaper in Sweden) estimated in 2002 that the real figure is ten times higher, ie, 25 000 rapes on mainly Swedish women a year. We let the figure stand for a moment . Would Denmark have relatively the same frequency of rape, we would have around 1 500 notified, and perhaps a total of 15 000 rapes a year. Luckily we don´t, not yet.

In Sweden, they have unfortunately managed to a higher degree, keep the lid on the immigration debate and immigration critics are by definition “xenophobic” or even racist. With a from the top encouraged “state feminism”, which has widespread support in the media and parliament (six out of seven parliamentary members calls themselves “feminists”), one would think that there was a special understanding for vulnerable women, but it is far from that. Only 5 percent of the reported rape cases go to prosecution, and only a fraction of them lead to a conviction. When a raped woman finally has reached so far in the process the sentences are
so mild that no one recognizes them. The judiciary system is not at all in tune with “the new Sweden”, but is still predominantly based on gentleness, treatment and rehabilitation.

It should be superfluous to mention that many traumatized women do not have the energy to make a report. Basically, it must be noted that rape in Sweden is completely free of prosecution
for criminals. The risk of a penalty is small, very small, and therefore the official state feminism sounds infinitely hollow. The old concept of “kvinnofrid” (sanctuary for women) seems to belong to a distant past.

We claim, and it can be documented with numerous articles, books and statistics, that ethnicity and culture are of relevance in criminal statistics. The documentation is available for the Danish public, and is not so (indirectly) censored as is the Swedish. In Sweden, the media clavier plays a different melody. If you were to ask a Swedish journalist when ethnicity should be mentioned in press reports and police messages over wanted criminals, the answer would be “When it is relevant.” Apparently rape cases are never relevant, because the majority of perpetrators are immigrants and childeren to immigrants, and by principle it is never mentioned. Therefore publicity is of no help in solving crime as it is in this country, thus Swedish media makes itself an accomplice to crime by helping serious criminals avoid justice.

One can only guess as to why they have this cynical and hypocritical policy, yet a study from Gothenburg University in 2002 called Swedish journalists “The world’s most power loyal journalists,” and it does not seem distant to assume that Swedish journalists are keen to oblige those in power to. How? By actually hiding from Swedes what politicians via rampant immigration policies have done to the country both socio-economically and criminal-politically: They have provided Sweden with a rape rate that is worse than the U.S. and a crime total that is on the U.S. level.

But it is not only Swedish journalists who are wheedling and hypocritical. BRÅ - Crime Prevention Council (which represents our Kriminalpreventive Råd) in Sweden popularily called: Brottsförnekande Rådet or Crime Denial Council hides and retouches statistics so that it is difficult to assess an accurate picture of the social reality. In a series of articles in Aftonbladet in 2002 researchers complain that BRÅ engages in Government commissioned work. “It is a disaster everywhere at BRÅ”, said psychiatry professor Sten Levander. “The mission of BRÅ is to fabricate research so that it pleases the Minister” The in Denmark too, well known professor and novelist, Leif GW Persson who works at BRÅ, says “We don´t engage in independent research, but angle our reports to suit the government.”

It can be both surprising and then again not, that rape statistics are tampered in Sweden. If the truth came out people would be extremely upset - “PISSED OFF”. As it is now, it is “only” the victims and their families that feel the pain.

We believe that the sweep-under-carpet-strategy expresses an appalling cynicism and a despicable hypocrisy. BRÅ manages to state that just over forty percent of rapes in Sweden are committed by immigrants. When one knows the Danish rates, it seems completely absurd as Sweden has 2.8 times more immigrants per capita than Denmark. A realistic Swedish immigrant number must be between 80 and 90 percent of committed rapes, when the average figure in Denmark is around 70 percent. But BRÅ here has invented the hocus-pokus-term “foreign born”, which immediately sorts away all naturalized and their offspring and signals the official, confirmed dogma of Culture does not matter, only social conditions. Lies, Latin and manipulating statistics.

To further establish the bitter truth we point out a report that the National Democrats have recently issued. The title reads: “Immigrants, rape, and the truth - a report on abuses in the multicultural society.” Please do not react with the automatic pilot as in: Well, it is a counterpart to the Danish People’s Party, so we need not listen to what they have to say or what their arguments and documentation are. The National Democrats do the work the Swedish newspapers don´t: They go to the the courts to access information and report what the newspapers do not want to mention: Ethnicity!

Click on the link, read yourself and form your own opinion. We cannot here duplicate the report’s methods and concepts in detail, but have to be satisfied with the conclusions: That sexual abuse of girls and women committed by immigrants is a growing problem. Neither the police, schools, the media orthe authorities tell the truth because they fear what would happen if the whole truth came to light. The figures show that men with immigrant backgrounds commit more rapes than Swedes. 93 offenders have been investigated. Of them 67 had an immigrant background, ie at least one foreign born parent. It gives a2.4 times over-representation of men with an immigrant background. Furthermore rapists choose primarily Swedish girls as victims. Of the total 49 rape victims, where a man with an immigrant background was the perpetrator, 30 had a Swedish background.

Men with backgrounds in certain regions commit more rapes than others. Of the 67 offenders with immigrant backgrounds 30 can be attributed to the Middle East/North Africa region, 13 to Latin America and 7 to the rest of Africa.

This column is primarily directed at our politicians at all levels, but at the same time, we perceive it as part of alerting the Danish population of the forces we are dealing with and that the “bury our heads in the sand” policy would lead us straight into the Swedish abyss. Furthermore, we aim to both broadly capture the massive collision of cultures due to decades long influx of integration-reluctant Muslims and to gather strength against the intensive anti-democratic and manschauvinistisk campaign undertaken by forces from particular Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Turkey, that increasingly includes rape.

The situation of Swedish women should be of importence because Sweden, as The Democracy and Integration Minister Mona Sahlin correctly announced, is 40-50 years “ahead” of Denmark when it comes to multi-culture or “Diversity”, as it so fancifully is called.

Rape figures seem to closely coincide with numbers of immigrants. We note that women in the “state-feminist Sweden” are partly without legal rights, almost like hunted prey, who no longer dare move as freely as they were accustomed to. Each single day 6.8 notified rapes are perpetrated, perhaps even up to 68 (estimated number of unknown cases included).

If rape offenders are caught in Denmark, they can look forward to a prison sentence of about three years. Swedish offenders statistically go almost completely free. Can we as a society tolerate that it is so cheap to destroy a young woman’s life? Perhaps her whole lifetime? The answer is a resolute no.

Therefore, the penalty should be increased to at least double. Furthermore, if one at all is to expect a preventive effect to prevent further tragedies, the repatriation of the worst rapists should be a self-evident course. This appears unfortunately to be one of the only measures certain callous rapists have respect for. “attendance ” -treatment - should of course be for no other than the victim. Sweden should for their women’s sake, take after Denmark, and we under no circumstances should go in Swedens footsteps.

Do the politicians and the public authorities know their “VISITING HOURS”? Or is the next step to take the law into their own hands, which people resort to when the system fails the ordinary citizen?
http://66.102.1.102/translate_c?hl=sv&sl=sv&tl=en&u=http://balder.org/articles/sverige/Voldtakt-Muslim-Invandrar-Sverige.php&prev=_t&usg=ALkJrhi03sKELHrnlufQ3angWymL4Z-fjg

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Posted by Freethinker2308 on February 03, 2009, 10:34 PM | #

Posted by Emma K. on January 30, 2009, 01:03 AM | #

You’ll have to forgive me if I’m wrong, but this screams propaganda to me, whether it’s completely made up or exaggerated to create an impression.  The whole “the bad people who don’t look like us must be locked up because they’re raping our women” is a classic story that’s been tried in a variety of places, not to mention slavery-era United States.  This is not to say that particular incidents do not happen, but do we really have a trend here? I suspect it’s not. 
—-
Emma K.
San Diego personal injury lawyer

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Since 1998, SÄPO (Swedish Security Police) extended the definition of crime with racist and xenophobic elements to cover not only the majority population, but minorities as well as criminal offenses against the majority population. Phenomena of racism and xenophobia is not limited to the majority against minorities.

The attitudes of immigrant men towards Swedish girls versus girls from the own ethnic group, a study by the Swedish newspaper Dagens Nyheter

We get a perception of women related to ethnicity by members of immigrant gangs as a couple of young man from Lebanon give their barefaced view on the Rissne gang rape case to a Swedish newspaper(DN 000211): “It is not as wrong to rape a Swedish girl as an Arab girl. The Swedish girl may of course need lots of help afterwards, and she has probably already screwed. But the Arab girl will have problems with her family. For her, it is a great shame to be raped. It is important that she is a virgin when she marries.” Another replied: “I will never do it, I promise, but if I were to rape a girl, I would choose a Swedish girl, a short skirt and high heels. Swedish girls must learn to protect themselves. They must understand how immigrant guys function. How we for instance view Swedish girls.” Leila from Iran, Swedish Malin and Jessica and Nancy with Syrian backgrounds gave their views on the issue in the study (DN 000218): “All girls who have been raped have a equally tough and troublesome plight!” The four observe in everydeay life attitudes where immigrants class Swedes as inferior beings. “Fucking Svenne, as they say,” says Jessica. The equivalent corresponds well with Blatte (Wog) and it is the Swedish girls who suffer most. For they are also whores. Svenne whores.” In the immigrant suburbs “There are many boygangs that actually despise Swedish girls.” They nevertheless refrain from stigmatizing all guys from the Middle East, because they know many who are ok.

From a report crime linked to the country´s internal security in 1999 (SÄPO 2000:22):

“During the year, remarkably many muggings. Overall statistics include 22 robberies, two of which were judged to have clear elements of racism and xenophobia, while 20 crimes are more doubtful. Among the doubtful cases are a series muggings carried out in the center of town in April and May 1998. The approach was the same as with the 16 robberies reported in Gothenburg. A bunch of young people of foreign origin attacked exclusively young Swedish men, and robbed or tried to rob them of cell phones and cash. In Stockholm two muggings with similar backgrounds were notified, where the perpetrators also expressed that the victims were ‘Svennedjävlar (Swedish Bastards)’,asked questions like ‘are you racists’ and ‘do you have anything against the Kurds’ and stated ‘I do not rob svartskallar (wogs)’ The statements together with the approache, especially the fact that all the victims were Swedish men, suggests that there is some element of racism/xenophobia in the muggings. The motives for the crimes were probably a combination of the perpetrators need for money/cell phones and a form of power demonstration. The choice of victims, however, indicates a certain disrespect towards Swedes.”

Aje Carlbom, a social anthropologist from Lund and author of a dissertation on Rosengard in Malmo:

“They move here and become part of a local public instead.”  Carlbom sees Rosengard more as an Islamic society than a Swedish. People can live there entirely by using their own language, without learning Swedish and without contact with the Swedish society.
http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&u=http://www.resonproduktion.com/personran2.html&sl=sv&tl=en&history;_state0=&swap=1

“The difference between Sweden and Turkey is that in Turkey you must pay for the Whores but not here. ”
17-year old Turkish boy tells about their attitude towards Swedes.” Source: The sole’s labyrinth”, Mauricio Rojas, member of Parliament (fp)

“The only thing that happens when you rape a Swedish whore is that you get to talk to a woman from the social services ” “It is not as wrong to rape a Swedish girl as an Arabic” “I do not have much respect for Swedish girls. You can say that they are fucked to pieces.”
(Interview immigrant boy in the Dagens Nyheter 11/02 -00)

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Posted by Freethinker2308 on February 03, 2009, 10:45 PM | #

Posted by Lurker on January 30, 2009, 04:38 PM | #

Freethinker - you have to ask just how these muslims got to live amongst us in the first place.

It didnt just happen on its own.

That one is easy. It can only be contributed to the ethnic-suicidal policies of the Swedish left that has been in power for 65 of the last 74 years.

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Posted by Captainchaos on February 04, 2009, 07:48 AM | #

The first, visceral reaction of many is that these rapists should be hauled into a room without windows by burly Norsemen; and what is left of them, afterwards, could be removed in a bucket.  But that kind of reaction tends to stew in its own juices, and remains impotent as such - in the present context.  It is not the kind of motivation that gets people to work as activists for their nationalist party. 

The light at the end of the tunnel that all nationalist parties need to offer is maximum repatriation; unflinchingly.

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Posted by Freethinker2308 on February 04, 2009, 10:12 PM | #

MORE ON HOW MAINSTREAM MEDIA KEEPS REPORTING THE MUSLIM RAPE WAVE AFFLICTING SWEDEN! IT IS A DISGUSTING CONCEALMENT OF THE TRUTH!

Tre convicted of rape
One of the two girls raped by three men in an apartment in Gothenburg was only thirteen but the men were not convicted for raping a minor as the men had reason to believe she was older than fifteen. On Tuesday the men were convicted of rape but not for raping a minor writes Göterborgsposten on the web. The girls, 13 and 15 years old had been visiting Gothenburg last year during their winter vacation but somehow missed their last train home. At a hamburger restaurant they met two of the men who offered them a place for the night at a friends apartment. There the girls were served vodka and became very intoxicated. The men then engaged several times in sexual-intercourse with the girls. The prosecuter found the offences severe, and in one case against a minor but the District Court of Gothenburg only convicted the men on normal charges of rape. A 23 year old man was was sentenced to 3,5 years, while the 21 year old whose apartment it was, received a two year sentence. A 17 year old received probation. The three are to jointly pay damages of 130 000 kronor to each of the girls.
http://www.svd.se/nyheter/inrikes/artikel_2418109.svd

AND THESE ARE THE FACTS!


SOMALI TRIO CONVICTED OF RAPING TWO YOUNG TEENAGE GIRLS IN GOTHENBURG

February 3, 2009 Gothenburg District Court, Case file nr B 2629-08  

On January 16, 2009 three young Somali men are charged for the rape of two girls, 13 and 15 years old in Gothenburg last year.

The three accused:
Omer Ahmed Sheekh, born 1984-12-15, registered as a residence of Norway, citizen of Somalia.
Mohamed Musse, born 1986-10-21, registered as a residence of Gothenburg, citizen of Somalia.
Mohammed Mahamud, born 1990-06-12, registered as a residence of Angered.

Background:

The three young man met the girls in Gothenburg in February last year. They lured the girls to an apartment in Guldheden where one of the offenders lived. The girls were then pressured into consuming alcohol and when they become so intoxicated that they could no longer resist, they were raped repeatedly by all three of the men. It became clear that one of the girls had contracted VD from the abuse. Apart from that the girls had no physical injuries, however, the psychological damage is a fact which requires prolonged treatment. 

The grounds for the verdict:
Gothenburg District Court rules today, on the February 3, 2009, that Omer Ahmed Sheekh be sentenced to prison for 3.5 years for rape.

Mohamed Musse is to be sentenced to 2 years in prison for rape.

Mohammed Mahamud convicted of rape, the penalty PROBATION with special regulations: Mohammed Mahamud is to participate in specific activities related to current crime problems. Mohammed Mahamud has undergone a medical investigation and the investigating physician´s assessment is that a serious mental disorder is likely to have occured at the time of the offense and that due grounds exist for prison prohibition under the previous version of Chapter 30 Section 6 BRB. The District Court did not find reason to order such an investigation. Social Services in Gunnared have in previous crime investigations (robbery) found evidence that Mohammed Mahamuds mental performance is well below that of young people of similar age, the results coincide with those of children with special needs. The educational assessment from school defines his skills comparable to that of grade five students. He has concentration problems and a weak understanding of consequence. Mohammed Mahamud has already been sentenced as a 15-year-old for several robberies. 

Penalty value:
The district court reasons that the Penalty value for an adult is three years. With reduction due to his age, this would correspond to a year in prison. Further reduction should, however, with regard to Mahamuds mental disability in accordance to Chapter 29 Section 3 BRB. With a reduced penalty value of 10 months there is a prerequisite for selecting another form of penalty than imprisonment. The District Court found that PROBATION with proposed regulations is for Mahamud the most appropriate penalty.

Sheekh Omer and Mohamed Musse shall remain in custody until the ruling becomes final. The District Courts Decision on January 29, 2009 is to release Mohammed Mahamud.

Damages to the victims:
The trio are jointly to pay 130 000 SEK in damages to each victim. 

Background - detailed description:
The girls who are residents outside of Gothenburg missed for some reason their last train home, so they went to a McDonalds in Nordstan where they met Mohammed Mahamud and Sheekh Omer. They offered the girls to hang out at a friends (Mohamed Musse) apartment and to sleep there. Mohammed Mahamud said that they had alcohol at the apartment. The girls were offered alcohol by the men and were pressured to drink more and more. The girls were not physically forced to drink but have described that they felt pressured and dared not to resist when the boys were been unreasonable and raised their voices, and they were afraid to make the boys angry. Both girls became so intoxicated before any sexual activity occurred that they felt dizzy and were unable to walk properly. They have repeatedly vomited, sometimes in direct connection to sexual activity. It is in light of all of this information indisputable that when girl B had settled on the bed she quite immediately lost consciousness and was completely unaware of the events that followed and she even had to be woken up to leave the apartment. It is quite clear that she was in a completely helpless state when the boys took advantage of her. Girl A had before any sexual activity occured, settled down on a mattress on the floor to rest. She has described that she felt nauseous, that she was wobbly and dizzy, and that she had no strength in her arms and legs and was thus unable to physically resist or defend herself, and that she occasionally was in an unconscious state and at times in a conscious. The District Court finds that the objective of the boys was to get the girls intoxicated and then have sex with them, and this according to Mohamed Musse, was the goal of Omer Sheekh. 

How the defendants plead:
Sheekh Omer denies responsibility for the crimes. He totally denies the charges against him and claims that he had not been present in the apartment.

Mohammed Mahamud denies responsibility for the crimes. He has admitted that he had oral sex with girl A, but argues that this was voluntary. He denies the charges that he took advantage of her helpless state.

Mohamed Musse denies responsibility for the crimes. He admits that he was present in the apartment when the alleged crimes took place but denies the charges against him.

DNA evidence:
There is DNA evidence from two people in one of the girls panties. Through the evidene revealed the District Court finds that Omer Shreekh had vaginal intercourse twice with girl A. Oral sex took place between girl B with and the two other men.

The verdict of The District Court: 
In accordance to the legislative amendment of 2005 where the extension was made to include even sexual abuse where the perpetrator takes advantage of a victim due to intoxication or a similar helpless state even where the ability to defend oneself is not completely eliminated. Parts of what previously was classed as sexual exploitation in Chapter 6, Section 3 BRB is to be classed as rape. 
According the District Court Eeven girl A has been in the helpless state referred to in Chapter 6, Section 1.
The District Court therefore concludes that the sexual acts that occurred constitute what is classed as rape.

Appeals: 
If either part is unsatisfied with the ruling, appeals are to be made so that The District Court receives them at latest on February 24, 2009. The appeal must be made to the Court of Appeals for Western Sweden.

The States expences:
Expences for three public defenders, and one legal representative of the plaintiffs (joint representation) amount to 213 721 kr.

Links:
Gothenburg District Court, Case file nr B 2629-08  
Göteborgsposten 2009-02-03, Three sentenced for rape

Furthermore to be reported is that the prosecutor did not in any of the cases invoke expulsion from the country.

http://politisktinkorrekt.wordpress.com/2009/02/03/somalisk-trio-falldes-for-valdtakt-pa-tva-unga-tonarsflickor-i-goteborg/

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Posted by SDVisitor on February 22, 2009, 09:06 PM | #

Totally unpleasant picture. I hope you could add a warning or something in your title. Don’t raise hatred. Peace.

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Posted by FTV on March 03, 2009, 07:48 AM | #

I see…. Call the vikings.

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Posted by Alyssa Uk on March 11, 2009, 09:50 AM | #

no comment.

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Posted by UK on March 22, 2009, 10:35 AM | #

I am muslim and would like to act I condemn this act and would condemn it no matter which woman it was done to. The point is not the ethnicity of the woman nor the label of the culprits at hand, the point is the act, the act is wrong and justice should be served. I am aware the culprits were muslim but just because the LABEL is muslim it gives no one the authority to condemn a whole community/group of people because of the actions of someone else, it defies logic. I and other muslims are NOT the one who commited this act and will not take responsibility for the actions of someone else, the ones who commited this act know who they are and they are the ones who should be bought to justice, and focus on anything else with respect to this act is anything but justice.

Europeans will NEVER need muslims/Islam for the decendance and decline of western Europe. You are doing a good job of it yourself. You keep making references all the time to your land. What is this?  You have no MORAL CLAIM to the land. If it is your land (lol) then why so TERRIFIED of such a immoral/unjust religion? If you are not terrified why so terrified? Accept it or not islam is here, it is here, Islam has finally come the west. The sooner you accept it the better and leave us, yes us people in peace. Islam this Islam that it is about time you westerners understand and acccept that ME, WE AND MY RELIGION (ISLAM) IS NOT THE ANTIDOTE FOR THE ILLS OF YOUR (WESTERN) SOCIETY. You better start addressing your problems soon and whilst your at it make sure you dont STEAL our values to do it, Yes OUR VALUES.

All talk and no action is all you westerners are when it comes to islam, you people have lost the sooner you accept it the better not for me or anyone else but for yourself. You hate us, you dont want us here, the feelings mutual but its not about what me and you want, its about everyone, who cares what me and you want??? Yes I agree muslims can’t live admist non muslims LIKE YOU, so you know where the door is.

Although not relvent to this thread the past posts talking about beauty the issue of a muslim with a non-muslim european man would not even arise. The south asian muslims dating the european men which to my knowledge is very few are only taking them for a ride, the white man has always been open to being taken for a ride.

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Posted by UK on March 25, 2009, 12:16 PM | #

Posted by J Richards on April 17, 2006, 07:10 PM | #

“To the Muslims who have posted here,

Islam allows Muslims men to rape women that their right hand possesses (slaves) and thereby justifies the rape of non-Muslim women in many scenarios.  Prophet Mohammed had a huge number of wives and concubines, and the holy Prophet Mohammed had sex with a pre-pubescent girl.  Does this not meet the definition of a sexual pervert? “

You need to stop these Bad Jokes. If your fondness is too great-Take a look in the mirror you’ll see the Biggest joke.

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Posted by Darknight on March 25, 2009, 12:38 PM | #

Posted by J Richards on April 17, 2006, 07:10 PM | #

To the Muslims who have posted here,

Islam allows Muslims men to rape women that their right hand possesses (slaves) and thereby justifies the rape of non-Muslim women in many scenarios.  Prophet Mohammed had a huge number of wives and concubines, and the holy Prophet Mohammed had sex with a pre-pubescent girl.  Does this not meet the definition of a sexual pervert?

You need to stop these Bad Jokes but if your fondness is too great- Take a look in the mirror you’ll see the Biggest Joke!

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Posted by SM on March 25, 2009, 03:52 PM | #

>Does this not meet the definition of a sexual pervert?

You think that the religious wackdoodles are more “perverted” than the mainstream West?

(“Pervert” of course is a relative construct.)

Marrying “underage” female relatives (eg niece, cousin) in polygyny groupings was normal up until two generations ago. It is down right healthy and sane compared to the West.

I think a better definition of pervert would be the lifestyles in the modern West. Lifestyles which are the side effect of…

The dallance of females picking and choosing with vapid aplumb (while at the same time being able to hide inside a male-libido induced fairy story called ‘the fairer sex’), allowing rampant divorce (with a ‘no fault’ presumption of guilt of the males), patho raising of children (note _way more patho psychos in the west than any other culture by far_]. “Et cetera, et cetera et cetera”.

In general the marginaliztion of the adult males as authority (scant authority they had in the previous centuries) is the root of “perversion” [what I call ‘cosmopolitan psychological-septic illness’].

Meanwhile the manifestations of male authority (deemed perversions) will lead to females being boinked, enharemed and disciplined when they display. If one can not handle that, there is always self emasculation and _not procreating daughters_; then you won’t have to be soiled with the notion that a ‘perverted’ male (ie normal adult male) somewhere is enjoying a female (eg an inherent stunted victim) related to you.

The whites have simply embraced and now rally around—in standard knuckledhead conformist ways—an unintended disaster(the modern feminised West) that was imposed through political fiat (and that imposition itself was the side effect of a previous disaster called democracy, called the magna charter, called christianity, called Rome, called civilization itself unfortunately, etc etc.)

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The actual story itself (which I haven’t read) is tabloid (published by jew liberals I’d wager), meant to sell advertising (and “dark political objective”) to the masses.

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Posted by SM on March 25, 2009, 03:55 PM | #

>Does this not meet the definition of a sexual pervert?

You think that the religious wackdoodles are more “perverted” than the mainstream West?

(“Pervert” of course is a relative construct.)

Marrying “underage” female relatives (eg niece, cousin) in polygyny groupings was normal up until two generations ago. It is down right healthy and sane compared to the West.

I think a better definition of pervert would be the lifestyles in the modern West. Lifestyles which are the side effect of…

The dallance of females picking and choosing with vapid aplumb (while at the same time being able to hide inside a male-libido induced fairy story called ‘the fairer sex’), allowing rampant divorce (with a ‘no fault’ presumption of guilt of the males), patho raising of children (note _way more patho psychos in the west than any other culture by far_]. “Et cetera, et cetera et cetera”.

In general the marginaliztion of the adult males as authority (scant authority they had in the previous centuries) is the root of “perversion” [what I call ‘cosmopolitan psychological-septic illness’].

Meanwhile the manifestations of male authority will lead to females being boinked, enharemed and disciplined when they display. If one can not handle that, there is always self emasculation and _not procreating daughters_; then you won’t have to be soiled with the notion that a ‘perverted’ male (ie normal adult male) somewhere is enjoying a female (eg an inherent stunted victim) related to you.

The whites have simply embraced and now rally around—in standard knuckledhead conformist ways—an unintended disaster(the modern feminised West) that was imposed through political fiat (and that imposition itself was the side effect of a previous disaster called democracy, called the magna charter, called christianity, called Rome, called civilization itself unfortunately, etc etc.)

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The actual story itself (which I haven’t read) is tabloid (published by jew liberals I’d wager), meant to sell advertising (and “dark political objective”) to the masses.

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Posted by salman khan on March 26, 2009, 05:12 PM | #

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Posted by symphony on March 28, 2009, 09:13 AM | #

Posted by Guessedworker on April 18, 2006, 08:50 PM | #

If morality is such a big deal in Islamoland what do these guys want with 72 virgins in paradise?

If Immorality is such a big deal in Westoland what do you Jokers want to stick your Ass up Islam 24-7?

Good question!

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Posted by turkish girl on March 31, 2009, 07:10 PM | #

I just want to say to the arabics, pakistanis just leave the Turkish people alone! We’re not like them and we’ll never be!! Turks are not illiterate like them and definitely not pervert like them. I have to hide my nationality just because of those little idiots, you know what, it’s not only to the Swedish girls when they learn I’m turkish and living with my boyfriend they act like I’m a whore. They start talking each other, giving me weird look as soon as they figure it out.

Yes they are pervert because their only source to learn the sexual relation is porn or etc. They are filthy people, disgrace of humanity and even of islam.

Also, please make the distinction between Kurds and Turks. Kurdish people might leave in Turkey but it doesn’t mean that they are native born Turks, just like your raper immigrant they are ours raper immigrants. They love to be proud of their nationality unless they aren’t in trouble with law or police, when they are, they suddenly become Turkish.

Turkish people are well educated, sophisticated. Please I’m begging you do not compare us with those filthy animals!!!!!

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Posted by Muhyeuddin on April 17, 2009, 09:34 AM | #

Islam shows absolutely no tolerance towards rape and considers it a disgusting crime. In Islam, rapists get capital punishment whether the rapist or the victim is Muslim or otherwise. It is dishonest to take what some idiotic, hormone-crazy, immigrants say about women and portray it as “the Muslim perspective”. One could talk to Swedish or Norwegian or Danish 16-year olds on the street and you wouldn’t get anything different from them. Peri-pubertal males are, by their very nature, hormonally driven. Its not “Islam” speaking when the teenage immigrant tells you that he wants to get in bed with a blond girl, ITS TESTOSTERONE!!! If you really want to tell the world what Islam thinks of women then why don’t you interview the traditional Islamic scholars. I know out of personal experience that there are many in Stockholm. I am a practicing Muslim and I can tell you for a fact that I was raised to respect women. I live in muslim majority country where rape is detested as much as it is detested in the West, if not more.

If you want to know about the respect for women in Islam, I am posting a few links for your convenience. Those who have studied Islam without any pre-conceived notions or prejudices have acknowledged its moral soundness.

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This is an article published in UK’s The Guardian:
Can Islam liberate womem?
Muslim women and scholars think it does - spiritually and sexually. By Madeleine Bunting

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4314573,00.html

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Women in Islam - an article by Islamic scholar Dr. Jamal Badawi

http://www.islamfortoday.com/womensrightsbadawi.htm

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Shattering Illusions - Western Conceptions of Muslim Women
by Saimah Ashraf,  a 1997-98 winner of the Stanford University Boothe Prize for Excellence in Writing.

http://www.islamfortoday.com/shatteringillusions.htm

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Former Sudanese Speaker for Parliament and Deputy Prime Minister, Dr. Hasan Turabi writes “On the Position of Women in Islam and in Islamic Society”
By Dr. Hassan al-Turabi.

http://www.islamfortoday.com/turabi01.htm

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Islam - Elevation of Women’s Status
Transcript of a public lecture by Sheikh Ali Al-Timimi to a mixed Muslim and non-Muslim audience at McGill University, Montreal, Canada.

http://www.islamfortoday.com/womensstatus.htm

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Article originally appearing in ASIAWEEK, written by former Prime Minister of Pakistan, Mrs. Benazir Bhutto.
on: WOMEN IN ISLAM.

http://www.islamfortoday.com/benazir.htm

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Have a nice day!

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Posted by Alan on April 20, 2009, 03:09 PM | #

Hi all. The problem with people who have no vices is that generally you can be pretty sure they’re going to have some pretty annoying virtues.
I am from Yemen and , too, and now am writing in English, please tell me right I wrote the following sentence: “Search multiple travel sites, compare airline prices, search our travel deals, and receive free fare predictions.”

With love 8-), Alan.

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Posted by Azam Saeed on April 22, 2009, 09:32 AM | #

This is shamefull act to all of you(so called civilization nations) that you are lieing about muslims.
No body can prove that Islam allowed muslim to rap with non-muslim girl.
Islam never allowed rap even adultery(with both muslim and non-muslim girl)
Allah order muslims to avoid see the girls(else of wife and other close relations ships).
Muhammad(PBHM) said that every eye do also sex and eye sex is see other girls.
and he will answer about this act.
So please study islam and then talk about muslim and Muhammad(PBUH)
Islam do not distingiush between muslim and non-muslim on the matter of rap or adultery.

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Posted by Max on May 05, 2009, 01:34 PM | #

I think the biggest issue in this discussion is the intolerance you are all preaching at each other. Nobody is listening to each other, everyone has spewed their biased, ignorant, unoriginal opinions and refused to listen to anyone else. This is not a discussion of the degenerative effects of the Muslim population on Western culture, this is an opportunity for the so-called democrats to rant about one more marginalized minority that is single-handedly turning all of western civilization into a maelstrom of rape and violent crimes, and a place for offended and defensive Muslims to to angrily retort and rant about their own skewed perceptions of Western civilization.

Please understand:
NOT ALL Muslims are rapists and killers
NOT ALL Westerners are racist right-wing conservatives who generalize an entire race into a criminal category
SOME Westerners rape and beat women too
SOME Muslims believe in woman’s rights
If you keep calling each other names nothing will be resolved. Why should anyone respect your opinion or take what you have to say seriously if you’re using racial slurs and calling names?
Multiculturalism is a fact. There is no turning back, you can’t separate one race from another, you can’t kick groups of people out of your country, you can’t close the borders to only Muslims or only Jews, you can’t protect your society from the influx of people who think differently than you. Variety is inevitable at this point. There is only one way a multicultural society can survive without hate crimes and racial tension: you have to STOP SPREADING PROPAGANDA, you have to STOP JUDGING, and most importantly you have to AGREE ON A CODE OF SOCIALLY ACCEPTABLE CONDUCT.

Let’s consider the root of the problem in this article : The rising rate of rape in Sweden is apparently due to the influx of Muslim immigrants.
Assuming this is accurate, the problem will not be solved by writing articles like this, by sending letters to government officials or by touting prejudices in conversations online. If anything, a more straightforward, adult and moderated communication is necessary to break down language, cultural and religious barriers and misconceptions. Throughout this forum Europeans and Americans have been criticizing the practices of Muslims, and Muslims have been responding with their own criticism of Western culture. It’s true, they are different, however, living together peacefully is not an unattainable goal if you can discuss and accept controversial aspects of each others culture respectfully and maturely.
I’m not asking Muslim women to take of their scarves, or western women to wear them. I’m asking western men to respect the Muslim woman’s choice in wearing a scarf and Muslim men to accept that in the western culture not wearing a headscarf is not considered inappropriate. I’m asking you not to judge.
The only other way we can survive together is to respect each others rules and customs. It is against the law to rape women both in Muslim and Euro-American cultures. Some Muslims rape American women, some American men rape Muslims. We are not all responsible for the criminal population of our country, so we have to stop calling each other names.

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Posted by Darren on May 05, 2009, 01:54 PM | #

Max,

History is full of examples where one ethnic group drove another ethnic group out of its lands. Kevin MacDonald briefly discusses post-WWII ethnonationalism and why people fight for their kin: http://www.vdare.com/macdonald/080327_muller.htm

Also think of many of the nations we know of today and how they came about and what they once were. You cannot so quickly throw away history. (Multiculturalism, by the way, is not a “fact”; it is neither true or false).

Why do you think some sort gentlemanly negotiation will alleviate the crime waves that are associated with non-western immigrants? We already have a “code of conduct”: its called OUR LAWS THAT THEY DO NOT RESPECT!

Its amazing how liberals believe that human nature can be so easily overturned and suppressed. Either the Europeans will fight back against the non-westerners which are in the process of replacing them, or the non-westerners will replace them and make Europe in the image of their culture and society. They are most certainly not going to embrace and extend liberalism after they have replaced the Europeans.

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Posted by danielj on May 05, 2009, 02:11 PM | #

I’m asking western men to respect the Muslim woman’s choice in wearing a scarf and Muslim men to accept that in the western culture not wearing a headscarf is not considered inappropriate.

I’m sure they will find an arrangement where you continue to ask them politely to stop while they continue to rape with impunity completely agreeable.

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Posted by Alain on May 09, 2009, 03:59 PM | #

so… 2 swedish, 1 finn and 1 somali… but before arriving to this web i only read: a somalian gang… so tell me, is this a somalian gang? was this rape true? it seems not.

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Posted by SM on May 09, 2009, 08:29 PM | #

Either the Europeans will fight back against the non-westerners which are in the process of replacing them, or the non-westerners will replace them and make Europe in the image of their culture and society.

How will Europeans fight back IF they have embraced Liberalism? ...Catch 22

(Remember a (conservative) male of a culture is a selectively bred conformist to the ways of his group. So the western conservative male is simply the warrior drone of liberalism. ...Catch 22)

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And BTW, what’s wrong with controlling the females?

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Posted by Captainchaos on May 09, 2009, 08:53 PM | #

And BTW, what’s wrong with controlling the females?

Goddamnit Shit Monger, looks like Massa hasn’t learned you yet, boy.  LOL!

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Posted by UK on May 10, 2009, 04:59 AM | #

Posted by SM on May 10, 2009, 12:29 AM | #

Either the Europeans will fight back against the non-westerners which are in the process of replacing them, or the non-westerners will replace them and make Europe in the image of their culture and society.

How will Europeans fight back IF they have embraced Liberalism? ...Catch 22

(Remember a (conservative) male of a culture is a selectively bred conformist to the ways of his group. So the western conservative male is simply the warrior drone of liberalism. ...Catch 22)


Exactly! No doubt it will end in tears for the so called west,no doubt its coming but the cat is not quiet out the bag yet…..

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Posted by UK on May 10, 2009, 05:25 AM | #

Posted by SM on May 10, 2009, 12:29 AM | #
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And BTW, what’s wrong with controlling the females?

There are many ways to control people some more clever and hidden than others (things can be deceptive) and in many ways every way is a form of control so you end up a slave either way, so whats to decide what way/form of control is better.

As regards muslim woman any self respecting muslim woman would rather be a slave to islam than a slave to the west.

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Posted by battle on May 10, 2009, 06:43 AM | #

Posted by Phil Peterson on April 17, 2006, 08:02 AM | #

“David Duke is a racialist. Islam is not a racialist religion. Your “hope” that he will convert to Islam is as wishful as the hope for those virgins waiting in heaven for the true believer.”

ISLAM IS NOT “RACIALIST”???

“To be a Muslim you have to destroy your history, to stamp on your ancestral culture. The sands of Arabia is all that matters. This abolition of the self is worse than the colonial abolition, much worse.”—- VS Naipaul (Nobel Prize, Literature, 2001)

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Arabs in Persian literature:

Iranianness has an important theme in modern Persian literature from its very beginnings. As part of the answer to the question of self-definition, some Persian Iranian writers, like Mohammad Ali Jamalzadeh, Sadeq Chubak, Mehdi Akhavan Sales, and Nader Naderpour, have used images of Arabs to define Iran as a nation and themselves as Iranian in contrast to an Arab Other.

The Arab Other is a reverse definition of the Iranian Self, for some in terms of race or language, for others in terms of religion, history and culture as well. Moreover, the Arab Other is a metaphor which may also represent the Islamic, or Western Other, or certain aspects of Iranian life which the writer would not be able to criticize openly, for example, the monarchy.

However, defining Iranianness is not only a literary concern, but is essential to the creation of an “Iranian” national identity in the 20th century. Indeed, the development of Iranian nationalism in the 19th and 20th centuries, in literary and political discourse, may be seen as the “ideological creation of the nation” suggested by Benedict Anderson.

According to Anderson, one cannot “define” a nation by a set of external and abstract criteria, or objective social facts. Instead the nation is “an imagined political community,” something which is “thought out,” “created.” Thus, literary works are both a reflection of and, more importantly, a part of an ideological discourse, part of the creation of modern Iranian nationalism and Iran as a modern nation.

Iranian nationalist discourse set for itself the task of defining Iran as a nation and formulating an Iranian nationalism. One way to define the Iranian Self is by defining the Other—Western, Islamic, Arab—in terms of language, race, history, culture, religion or ideology. Thus, Shahrokh Meskoob sets the Iranian Self against the Arab Other, defining Iranianness in terms of Persian language and pre-Islamic history. Manoochehr Dorraj, sees Shi’i Islam, as an essential part of Iranianness, and sets the Iranian Self against the Western (non-Islamic) Other. The terms of these definitions, however, are set by two very different understandings of nationalism.

Leon Poliakov describes the Western paradigm of nationalism, based on myths of a common origin, the linguistic evidence of which became proof of race, and of a Golden Age, to which the nation might return by returning to its original cultural, linguistic and racial purity (all terms being interchangeable).

Indeed, Western nationalist and racist ideas, particularly the existence of an “Aryan” and “Semitic” race, developed hand-in-hand. Indeed, the central motif of racism is “purity,” the same purity which informs the Western national model and so precludes a multi-ethnic nationalism. Meskoob defines Iranianness in terms of this Western nationalist discourse. It is the same understanding of nationalism which was largely propaganda by the Pahlavi government.

However, Dorraj defines Iranianness in terms of the “alternative Islamic ideology” which emerged in the 1960s and 1970s in Iran. In what one might call an Islamist rather than a nationalist view, the Other is seen in ideological terms, and it is this view which is reflected in the Islamic Republic.

The same definitions of Iranianness, in terms of the Iranian Self and the Arab or Western Other, and the same formulations of Iranian nationalism appear in literary discourse.

(Back to topics)

In Mohammad Ali Jamalzadeh’s “Persian is [as Sweet as] Sugar,” Persian and Iranian are synonymous, as are Arab (or French or Azarbaijani) and foreign. While Jamalzadeh regards Islam as integral to an Iranian national identity, he objects to a backward Islam, and to Arabness as foreign. Jamalzadeh associates an Arab Other with religious superstition and backwardness, and defines the Iranian Self as Persian and Muslim. Yet, while Jamalzadeh uses the Western national model, seeing Iranian nationalism in terms of a common language and identity, he does not support Western racism.

Sadeq Hedayat loathes the Arab Other, and abhors Islam as an Arab religion. In “Seeking Absolution” and Parvin the Sasanid Girl, he portrays Arabs as dark-skinned, dirty, diseased, ugly, stupid, cruel and shameless, bestial and demonic. Moreover, Hedayat portrays present-day Iranian Muslims as corrupt and hypocritical. Only his Sasanid Iranians are attractive, courageous, intelligent, cultured and virtuous.

Hedayat idealizes the pre-Islamic, Zoroastrian past as the Golden Age of Iran. In his view, Iran’s true cultural identity, shared with “Aryan” India, was destroyed by the Arab Muslim invaders, who replaced Iran’s superior civilization with the brutal and bloodthirsty culture and religion of their own. Hedayat, often admired as a writer of sensitivity and progressive human values, espouses Western racism and anti-Semitism. He believes that “Aryan” Iranians are racially superior to the “Semitic” Arabs.

Sadeq Chubak’s view differs only somewhat from that of Hedayat. In The Patient Stone, Iranian rootlessness and alienation are the result of history: the Arab Muslims destroyed a great Iranian civilization and could not replace it. Iranians, both individually and socially, have consequently suffered because they were cut off from their own, true Iranian history, art, and culture.

Chubak’s characters also reveal racist thinking, and a level of anti-Arab sentiment throughout The Patient Stone. Chubak portrays the Arab (and Indian) Other as hypocritical, ugly and cruel, while the Iranian Self has been defeated and further corrupted by Semitic hypocrisy in the form of Islam, for Chubak sees the institution of Shi’i Islam in Iran only as a tool for oppression.

At the same time, he rejects Iranian chauvinism. Zoroastrianism and the history of Iranian kings hold no answers either. Indeed, Chubak goes so far as to equate Zoroastrianism with Islam, and to reject both. However, he rejects Islam on two levels: because it is a religion, which in Chubak’s view offers no answers, and because it is an Arab religion. For Chubak, there are no answers; life is indeed without meaning. However, alienation and existential despair are both universal, and historically and culturally specific. Existential despair informs the Self more than categories of Iranianness or Arabness, yet Chubak maintains those categories as well. While Chubak rejects Aryanism, his writings do support anti-Semitism.

Mehdi Akhavan Sales, like Hedayat, blames the Muslim Arab invaders for destroying Iran’s true cultural identity and longs for a return to pre-Islamic Zoroastrian culture and greatness. According to “The Ending of the Shahnameh,” the ending of Zoroastrian Iranian cultures with the defeat of the Sasanid empire and the coming of Islam has resulted in ruin and despair, which can be resolved only by returning to Iran’s pre-Islamic golden age. The Iranian Self was pure, bright and beautiful, but has been corrupted by the Arab Other, false, dark, and evil.

Akhavan decries “Semitic and Arabic and Islamic” influence on the “heritage of our own Aryan ancestors.” In so doing he echoes Hedayat’s view of Iranians and Arabs as two different and unequal races, one Aryan and superior, the other Semitic and inferior.

Nader Naderpour rejects Arabs and Islam as alien, and fundamentally opposed to the true Iranian culture and values. “Here and There” repeats the same image of Arabs as found in Hedayat and Akhavan, as savage, alien intruders who have destroyed a superior Iranian civilization. Nader Naderpour portrays the Arab Other as dark, savage and inhuman, in images of the irrational, blood and the moon; he portrays the Iranian Self as the creator of an enlightened civilization in images of Zoroastrian fire, the sun and springtime.

Naderpour sees Islam not so much as wrong in itself, but wrong because it is Arab, and therefore backward and cruel. In “Here and There,” Naderpour compares the establishment of the Islamic Republic to the Arab Muslim conquest of the Sasanid empire, and suggests that it is in fact a continuation of that same defeat of superior Iranian culture at the hands of the ignorant and intolerant Arabs. In Naderpour’s view, to be a devout Muslim, or a supporter of the Islamic Republic of Iran, is to be Arab and therefore not Iranian, indeed therefore almost less than human. Like Hedayat, Chubak and Akhavan, his is an anti-Islamic and anti-Arab view.


http://www.iranian.com/Opinion/Sept97/IranArab/index.html

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Posted by battle on May 10, 2009, 06:47 AM | #

Mazyar: a historic drama
Sadeq Hedayat and racial supremacy
Majid Nafisi

http://www.iran-bulletin.org/IBMEF_1_word 6 files/mazyar.doc

Is small moustache writer Sadeq Hedayat’s [1] carries under his nose in some photographs decorative or ideological? Look at any photo album of the era of Reza Shah (1926 - 1941) and you will see many men sporting such a moustache, and analogous to the broad moustache of left or the unshaven look of the Islamists, illustrate their ideological attachments. That was a time when the adulation of Hitler was feverishly spreading across the country - hence the fashion for a Hitler moustache among the young. Many were drawn to Hitler because he was fighting the British colonialists, and thinking that “my enemy’s enemy is my friend” believed that the advance of German forces favoured Iran’s independence. For others, however, the attraction went further and took on an ideological flavour.

Hitler’s main characteristic was his racism. Accordingly the Aryans, the master race, had lost their racial purity through intermixing with other races, in particular the Semitic race. Now through the blessing of the Hitlerite movement they must remove the other races and gradually, by means of an increase in the Aryan race and their absolute domination over the rest of the world, save the human race from disaster.

For Hitler the Jews were not a religion or even members of a nation, but members of the Semitic race. He was anti-Semitism rather than anti-Jewish. If he had opposed only their Judaism he could force them to renounce this religion. According to the author of “The History of the Jewish People” while the allies militarily defeated Hitler, he was relatively successful in his race war. The Jews of Europe were reduced from 11 to 5 million.
The play

Mazyar, a historic drama in three acts, was published in Tehran in 1933, the year Hitler became Chancellor. Mojtaba Minovi, Hedayat’s close collaborators in the “Rob’e” literary circle, wrote an extensive prologue in over 70 pages to the 50-page play where he describes the history of the Mazyar uprising against the Abbasid Caliphate [749 - 1258 AD] in Baghdad. Mazyar, an Estahban [2] in Tabarestan [3] was executed AD 838. There is also a short preface signed by both authors.

The play is based on a semi-historical, semi-mythical story where Bazist (alias Yahya), an Iranian astronomer in the Abbasid court, invites three Iranian Commanders named Babak, Afshin and Mazyar to rise up against the Islamic Caliphate, revive the Zoroastrian religion and “destroy the Arab race” (page 117). The Commanders fail in their independence movement. Babak succumbs first, betrayed by the brother of Sinbad - another rebel commander. Subsequently Mazyar is captured by the troops of Abdullah bin-Taher, and the plot by the third, Afshin, to assassinate the Abbasid Caliph in Samara is uncovered.

The first act takes place in Tabarestan at a time when the rebels are surrounded and on the threshold of defeat. Mazyar’s sole hope is to receive help from Afshin. Ali the son of Raban Tabari, Mazyar’s secretary, and Simru the wise old woman of Mazyar’s camp, both secretly in touch with the Arab army, are trying to get hold of the scroll letter that Afshin has sent Mazyar .

The second act takes place in a tavern in Tabarestan, where we find Mazyar with Shahrnaz, a foundling whose family the Arab troops had savagely murdered in front of her eyes. She is playing the harp while he drinks wine and conveys his love to her, telling her that there is no one left in the world for him but her. Suddenly Mazyar’s brother, Kuhyar, who had also betrayed him, bursts into the tavern accompanied by Arab troopers. They arrest Mazyar and ship him off to the caliph court.

The third act is in the Samara prison where Mazyar is held. Iranian prison guards are trying to arrange for Mazyar’s escape. Shahrnaz makes a brief visit to Mazyar and then on the belief that her lover cannot escape, takes a poison she had hidden in her signet ring soon. Her death causes Mazyar to lose his senses, become delirious and give up any plan to escape. Thus ends Mazyar’s historic drama in a personal tragic note.
Racial supremacy

Yet Sadegh Hedayat did not write the historic tragedy to try his hand as a playwright. His aim was to pass on a message which he describes as follows in the forward: “the history and exploits of such celebrated Iranians as Abu Muslim Khorasani, Barmakian, Afshin, Babak, and Mazyar, each of which is a delightful and important chapter in Iranian history, speaks of the bravery, resistance, intelligence, and resourcefulness of Iranians for two decades after the Arab conquest. They show that Iranians continued to fight for their independence, and had not forgotten the splendour and glory of the Sassanian [AD 227-642] era, nor forgotten their racial and intellectual superiority. To write the history of those times and to shed light on these living chapters of Iranian history is one of our vital tasks” (page 11).

It is worth noting that the writer does not talk of cultural or national superiority but specifically emphasises the racial superiority of Iranians. These elements approach the aim of supremacy seeking from different angles and therefore propose different solutions to their goal. We must now ask the question that in the Mazyar drama which is the superior race, what are its differences with the inferior race and what are the solutions proposed for racial rectification?

In the eyes of Sadegh Hedayat is the Iranian superior? The play is driven from beginning to end by Iran-worship. It might be argued we are witnessing merely a nationalistic viewpoint. But being “Iranian” is not a racial category and in order to look at it from this narrow racial angle we must prove that the writer associates it with white or Aryan races.

In the Mazyar drama we frequently encounter Iranians and Romans alongside one another while Arab and Jew are also lumped together (p 122). A clear example of the racial harmony between Iranian and Roman is once the Abassid Caliph has killed the Iranian Babak and the Roman Nanis, he smears both their heads in tar and hangs them side by side outside the city gates (p 123). The superior race is the white Aryan to which both Iranians and Romans belong.

As the play is based on the struggle of Mazyar against the Abbasid Caliphate, it appears at first sight that the enemy is the Arab people or Islam. But the more you read the more your realise that from Hedayat’s point of view “Jews” are as guilty in corrupting the Iranian race as the Arabs. It is true that there is much talk of cleansing the “Arab filth” (e.g. p 122), but in many places, including pages 11 and 129 there is open talk of “Semitic filth”. Even in notes at the end of the play the Tabari History [written in 923 AD] is cited where Mazyar always refers to the Muslims as Jews (p138). It may be difficult to imagine this today where the conflict between Palestine and Israel has highlighted the dispute between Islam and Judaism, but if we return to the conditions pertaining to the inter-war years, when Mazyar was written, an understanding of the issue is made very easy. From the ethnic point of view Arabs and Jews both belong to the Semitic race (p 125). It would be natural for Hedayat, who sees a return to ancient Iran as a sacred ideal, to see a connection between the genocidal policies of Hitler against the Jews and the struggle of ultra-nationalist Iranians against the Arab element.

To highlight “the Jews, this race worse than Arabs” (p 98) as the enemy of Iran is in fact the main message of this play. In act one we are introduced to Ali the son of Raban Tabari, Mazyar’s secretary, and Simru, the old woman in his organization. Both were previously Jews. Simru’s real name is Sara, and the secretary was a Jew before converting to Islam. According to Shadan on page 93 and according to Mazyar on page 95, it is these two who gnaw away at the Iranian resistance movement from the inside, and pave the way for the destruction of the anti-Arab movement.

In act one we discover that they had poisoned Mazyar’s food and are also trying to lay hands on the letter Afshin has written to Mazyar in order to assist Afshin’s arrest purge him from the caliph’s administration. In act two, Simru listens through a secret door to the conversation between Mazyar and Shahnaz in the tavern and thereby discovers Afshin’s plot against the caliph due to take place on the day of the Iranian Mehregan festival [4]. Thus although the Aryans and Jews belong to two religions, from an Iranian racist perspective, such as that of the author of Mazyar, they both belong to an inferior race, Semites, and should be regarded as a single enemy.
Racial annihilation

The next question is what was Hedayat’s solution for racial correction? How could the superior Iranian-Roman race save itself from the inferior Arab-Jewish race? Here the talk is of bloody cleansing and not cultural or even ethnic cleansing. Corruption was caused by racial intermixing (p 95). It is the half-Iranian half-Arab race that everywhere has sullied Iranian purity and caused the Arab and Islamic domination (p 11). If a person has Islamic blood from only one parent he or she assumes the meanness of the Arab (p 116). In addition to Ali, son of Raban and Simru, there are two more examples of this mixed parentage. One is Kuhyar, Mazyar’s brother who betrays him, and the other is Hassan ibn-Hossein who is a commander in the army of Abdollah ibn-Taher [5]. For Mazyar the reason for his brother’s betrayal is that his mother was an Arab slave (p 112), and that he had been corrupted through intermarriage with Arabs (p 111) and alliance with Jews (p 113). Hassan ibn-Hussein also comes from an Iranian-Arab mixed parentage.

In the face of blood contamination there is but one solution: blood settlement. The author unequivocally states that blood cleansing is the only possible through blood letting (p 130). The model for Mazyar is his grandfather Vandad Hormoz, who when he was governor [6] ordered Iranian women to hand over their Arab husbands, who were then hanged (p 96). Hedayat was writing at a time when in Germany the policy of exterminating Jews had begun.

Hedayat of course does not confine himself to racial superiority when he describes the era of Mazyar. He adds cultural and national superiority to the brew. For example he calls Zoroastrianism the “white religion” contrasting it with the “black religion” of the Semites (p 98). He writes of the “murderous Islamic flood” (p 9) and the “Arab Gog and Magog” (p 11). The Arabs and Muslims are enemies of industry and civilisation (p 118). The Muslims even copied the architecture for their mosques from Iranians. Their religion is full of superstitions. The Arab is base and barefoot (p 120). Their clothes is chapi agal - derived from the nosebag of beasts of burden (p 130). If they defeated Sassanian Iran it was not through military prowess or the popular attraction of their egalitarian promises, but through guile and scheming (pp 11 and 108). And despite trickery they are stupid and dim-witted (p 123). They are unrivalled in cruelty and all they do is severe hands and feet and torture (pp 106 and 131). They are greedy and lustful: while the Roman Nanis dies of hunger only after three days in prison, Musa ibn-Hareish, imprisoned because of adultery with the Caliph’s wife, has such a thick neck after three months in prison that they cannot severe it with an axe (p 122). Yet these same Arabs are presented as “satanic race of snake eaters” (p 10), rat eaters (p 100), lizard eating camel herdsmen (p 98) and hungry beggars (p 105). They cheat and are hypocrites in religious guise such that Hassan ibn-Hossein would drink wine out of sight of his colleagues (p 115). Thus Arabs are drained of all human attributes and become demons whose destruction and ethnic annihilation becomes easy for those believing in racial superiority.

Interestingly in Hedayat’s tale, Mazyar and Afshin try to popularise their revolt to annihilate the inferior race through myth making. They chose the Mehragan festival [see footnote 4], the same day the legendary Kaveh Ahangar revolted against the despot Zahhak [7]. Here Sadegh Hedayat apparently forgets that according to the poet Ferdowsi himself, Rustam the Iranian hero, was from his mother’s side Arab. What seems important for the author of Mazyar is the creation of a new myth for the racist movement that had occupied his mind, and that of many intellectuals of his generation in 1933.

Once acquainted with Hedayat’s racist and anti-Semitic views in Mazyar you ask yourself how can a man who wrote The Benefits of Vegetarianism and the story Vagrant Dog, and who was so sensitive to the killing and torment of animals, could be so insensitive to the bitter plight of millions of humans merely because they have a different religion or language? In my view the problem is in intellectual intolerance. Adolph Hitler was also a vegetarian. Intellectual bigotry is not just apparent in the Mazyar play. Extremist Iranism is one of the main characteristics of Hedayat’s literary creations during his first period as a writer.

One can see examples in the play Parvin, Daughter of Sassan (1930), stories such as The shadow of the Monguls (1931) and The last smile, the satires Al Besat al-Islamieh ilal bilad al-Faranjieh (1930) and Morvarid Cannon, and such investigative works as Owsaneh (1931), Nirangestan (1933), The Songs of Khayyam (1934), and the travelogue Isfahan, Half the World (1932). Omar Khayyam’s apostasy is presented as an example of the revolt of the Aryan spirit against Semitic beliefs. The superstitions of the people of Iran is ascribed to their intermixing with Arabs and Jews, and the growth of the architecture in Isfahan during the Safavid era [1501-1732] is credited to a return to Sassanian Iran.
No crocodile tears?

Like many of his generation, Hedayat was drawn to the Tudeh party after Reza Shah was removed from power by the Allies in 1941 because of his collaboration with Germany. Hedayat went on to write social stories such as Haji Agha and Tomorrow, and even travelled to Tashkent, capital of Uzbekistan, at the invitation of the Soviet authorities. Yet during this second phase he never officially repudiated the racial supremacy worldview of his earlier books.

Recently my colleague Naser Pakdaman published a hitherto unknown piece by Sadegh Hedayat in the 14th issue of the Journals of the Association of Iranian Writers in Exile, It was called Crocodile Tears and appeared under the pseudonym KZ in the first issue of Rahbar, the official organ of the Tudeh Party in the winter of 1942.

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Posted by battle on May 10, 2009, 06:54 AM | #

Posted by Phil Peterson on April 17, 2006: “David Duke is a racialist. Islam is not a racialist religion. Your “hope” that he will convert to Islam is as wishful as the hope for those virgins waiting in heaven for the true believer.”

ISLAM IS OBVIOUSLY AN ARAB RELIGION:

“Sadeq Hedayat loathes the Arab Other, and abhors Islam as an Arab religion. Hedayat idealizes the pre-Islamic, Zoroastrian past as the Golden Age of Iran. In his view, Iran’s true cultural identity, shared with “Aryan” India, was destroyed by the Arab Muslim invaders, who replaced Iran’s superior civilization with the brutal and bloodthirsty culture and religion of their own.

“Mehdi Akhavan Sales, like Hedayat, blames the Muslim Arab invaders for destroying Iran’s true cultural identity and longs for a return to pre-Islamic Zoroastrian culture and greatness.  Akhavan decries “Semitic and Arabic and Islamic” influence on the “heritage of our own Aryan ancestors.” In so doing he echoes Hedayat’s view of Iranians and Arabs as two different and unequal races, one Aryan and superior, the other Semitic and inferior.

“Sadeq Chubak’s view differs only somewhat from that of Hedayat. In The Patient Stone, Iranian rootlessness and alienation are the result of history: the Arab Muslims destroyed a great Iranian civilization and could not replace it.

“Nader Naderpour rejects Arabs and Islam as alien, and fundamentally opposed to the true Iranian culture and values. “Here and There” repeats the same image of Arabs as found in Hedayat and Akhavan, as savage, alien intruders who have destroyed a superior Iranian civilization.  Nader Naderpour portrays the Arab Other as dark, savage and inhuman, in images of the irrational, blood and the moon; he portrays the Iranian Self as the creator of an enlightened civilization in images of Zoroastrian fire, the sun and springtime. Naderpour sees Islam not so much as wrong in itself, but wrong because it is Arab, and therefore backward and cruel. In “Here and There,” Naderpour compares the establishment of the Islamic Republic to the Arab Muslim conquest of the Sasanid empire, and suggests that it is in fact a continuation of that same defeat of superior Iranian culture at the hands of the ignorant and intolerant Arabs. In Naderpour’s view, to be a devout Muslim, or a supporter of the Islamic Republic of Iran, is to be Arab and therefore not Iranian, indeed therefore almost less than human. Like Hedayat, Chubak and Akhavan, his is an anti-Islamic and anti-Arab view.

http://www.iranian.com/Opinion/Sept97/IranArab/index.html

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“To be a Muslim you have to destroy your history, to stamp on your ancestral culture. The sands of Arabia is all that matters. This abolition of the self is worse than the colonial abolition, much worse.”—- VS Naipaul (Nobel Prize, Literature, 2001)

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Posted by Daire on May 20, 2009, 07:57 PM | #

Muslims? No, you’re wrong, it isn’t the Muslims. It’s bad people. Islam clearly states that rape is a huge sin, considering it ruins a person’s life and totally defiles their purity. Raping someone is probably one of the fastest ways into hell in a Muslim’s belief. I see how you could point out that Muslims are the problem, but would it be the same case with all the rape Christians are doing amongst themselves, Afghanistan and Iraq? I don’t see Somalia invading Sweden, killing the men, and raping the women. Rape isn’t done by religions, it’s done by people. If a Catholic man raped a girl, you wouldn’t think of it as “Some damn Christian raped another girl”, You would think of it as a bad person doing evil things. Think about it. Don’t be fucking stupid.

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Posted by Ms.V on May 27, 2009, 03:37 PM | #

Why can’t they just stay where they belong? CLOSE THE BORDERS!

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Posted by Ertwel on June 04, 2009, 08:07 AM | #

Well its three years down the track and muslims are still piling into western nations.

Muslims have ruined “multiculturalism” for other peaceful migrants.

If the ministers will not listen, it wont be long until westerners take the matter to the
streets, cant see any mosques standing after that point!

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Posted by shadow on August 15, 2009, 02:54 PM | #

Posted by J Richards on April 17, 2006, 07:10 PM | #

‘‘To the Muslims who have posted here,

Islam allows Muslims men to rape women that their right hand possesses (slaves) and thereby justifies the rape of non-Muslim women in many scenarios.  Prophet Mohammed had a huge number of wives and concubines, and the holy Prophet Mohammed had sex with a pre-pubescent girl.  Does this not meet the definition of a sexual pervert?

You are deluded about the sexuality of whites.  Most whites are sexually moral people, but there is greater tolerance in Western societies, which allows greater freedom to the sexually immoral to indulge their passions.  On the other hand, your low intelligence and ignorance make you extrapolate the behavior of prostitutes in pornographic movies to white women in general!  The status of women in Islam is abysmal, and Islam is a disgrace to civilization by virtue of its intolerance and violence, among other things.’‘

To the Joker called J Richards you’v just answered your own question. Most muslims are sexually moral people, but there is greater tolerance in Western societies, which allows greater freedom to the sexually immoral to indulge their passions.  Such horrible practices are most extensively supported by the open freedom these societies offer and has a cultural-religious flavor that should not be assigned to Islam.

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Posted by jacob on September 05, 2009, 12:33 PM | #

Since when drug abuse has become racial? drug abuse is common irrespective of nationality or race. every drug addict should be given a chance to kick his addiction. everyone deserves a chance.

Malibu Drug Rehabilitation

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Posted by dkdsujdsdk on October 23, 2009, 07:06 PM | #

i dont understand
why no one shoots these people here.

they ruin our countries-

and this whole thing is invasion of coloured people.

they with their barbaric gang culture come- none of them seem to have sympathy towards us- and when they are majority- they attack.

You can see it already in those areas they are majority.

finally all nmordic countries are ruined by these bullshitters.

when we tell this truth- police is sent to accuse us because of racism.

what kind of racists these people are?: in their home countries multiculturalism or christianity is punished by death!!!!!!

wake up- nordic morons.

our governments are the enemy!

1 immigrant from those countries brings soon 10-100 others with him,...

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Posted by Saman on November 24, 2009, 03:02 PM | #

Those who contend that Islam is a peaceful religion are not fully conversant with its evil nature. As an ex-muslim I have read The damnatory book of Quran and I know how blatantly the hell-raising Allah encourages his followers to shed blood in his name. He goes even further and threatens its own followers of sodomy if they fail to stand to their duties. I hope to live in a world without Islam or any other religion.

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Posted by valance on December 01, 2009, 01:39 AM | #

The increase of violence by Muslim immigrants towards the citizens of their adopted European countries is horrifying. Down here in New Zealand we have so far been spared from the ugly side of Islam, but as their numbers grow (we currently have around 50,000) I fear that us Kiwis will be in for the same type of treatment. Our politically correct politicians are welcoming Muslims with open arms and are seemingly blind to the strife that these immigrants are causing in other countries.

Militant Islam is alive and well just across the ditch from us in Australia and has been for several years. Many will remember the Cronulla riots of 2005. Instigated by Lebanese Muslim gangs the Aussies retaliated. Not surprisingly the leftist PC media shied away from condemning the Muslim gangs and instead blamed the Aussies for being ‘racist’ and causing the mayhem. These gangs intimidated business people, threatened to rape the girls cos of their bikinis, bashed lifeguards and basically terrorized the community. Any wonder the Aussies kicked back. Just a few months ago Muslim radicals were arrested for plotting to attack Aussie army barracks. Many Kiwis who have moved to Aussie over the years are now returning home because it’s just getting too dangerous over there.

But like in the European countries when citizens down here speak out against the dangers of Islam the politically correct machine brands them as racist, while the Muslims are looked upon as the victims.

While the violent side of Islam hasn’t reared its ugly head yet down here, Muslims are quietly trying to undermine the traditional Christian heritage of our society, such as calling for the removal of crosses or crucifixes from clock towers, hospital chapels and churches.

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Posted by Fauzia Mujid on December 03, 2009, 09:04 PM | #

I seriously feel like slapping the guy who wrote this: “Muhammad himself had forced sex (rape) with several of his slave girls/concubines. This is perfectly allowed, both in the sunna and in the Koran. If you postulate that many of the Muslims in Europe view themselves as a conquering army and that European women are simply war booty, it all makes perfect sense and is in full accordance with Islamic law. Western women are not so much regarded by most Muslims as individuals, but as “their women,” the women who “belong” to hostile Infidels. They are booty, to be taken, just as the land of the Infidels someday will drop, it is believed, into Muslim hand. This is not mere crime, but ideologically-justified crime or rather, in Muslim eyes, attacks on Infidels scarcely qualify as crime. “

You racist JERK get your facts straight before you start writing LIES about other people’s religion. And don’t tell me that because I’m saying this that I support rape because I am a sixteen-year-old girl and I can tell you that rape is in NO WAY suppported by Islam, Muhammad, the sunnah, or the Quran and in fact is punishable by death. That’s how seriously we take rape in Islam and if you know any Muslim who actually thinks the way you talked about in your articla, then just know that they are EXTREMISTS and can no longer be associated with Islam or be considered Muslims.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on December 04, 2009, 12:19 AM | #

Fauzia, can you explain why every white female in France, Britain, Belgium, Holland, Sweden, Norway, and Denmark has been raped or gang-raped by Moslems?  What’s up with that?  I mean, rape exists everywhere among all races and cultures but you’re talking, in a place like, let’s take Sweden as an example:  literally every single Swedish female from age zero to age 110 has already been raped at least once or gang-raped by Moslems.  Can you explain this?  Is this our imagination or are these Moslems actually going around raping anything that moves?

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Posted by Red Mercury on December 04, 2009, 12:21 AM | #

I guess slapping him is better than beheading him.

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Posted by ruh roh shaggy on December 05, 2009, 02:31 PM | #

I can tell you that rape is in NO WAY suppported by Islam, Muhammad, the sunnah, or the Quran and in fact is punishable by death.

Islam is irrelevant; populations of Islamic faith are typically rural and primitively patriarchal, where abuse, rape and incest are very common among the poor. This is reflected in wretched natal care, stillbirths, deformities, etc. In other words it’s the society itself that is vicious and this viciousness is transferred to the freewheeling gals of the West.

I’ll never forget a photo I saw of a beautiful Pashtun girl, three years old, red-gold hair and big green eyes, one of them blackened and a cheek punched in by her father. You have to put yourself in these villages that aren’t the West where the father still controls life. If the father’s of bad character, the women and children suffer. There is no appeal. And Islam has never been sufficient to curb these human flaws.

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Posted by Amy on December 05, 2009, 03:13 PM | #

JUST SHUT UR MOUTHS!!!! DONT DARE TO SPEAK ABOUT WHAT U DONT KNOW…GET TO KNOW ISLAM AND THEN SPEAK ABOUT US…......UR LANGUAGE ITSELF GIVES US AN INSIGHT TO UR RELIGION…

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Posted by Boubacar Simms on December 05, 2009, 06:15 PM | #

Muslims aren’t as moral as they would like to make themselves appear. Go look up google trends for things like anal sex, gay sex, incest, and other degenerate crap and Muslim countries are always in the top three. Muslim girls and boys are often sodomized by family members too, it’s just part of life for them. In Egypt women can’t even walk down the street or sit on a bus without having some guy wanking off over her shoulder. Then you got places like India, Afghanistan, and Pakistan where hardly anyone works and they live with extended family members, this results in loads of young boys and girls getting sodomized by an uncle or cousin. Muslims like their Jewish cousins are obsessed with anal sex.

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Posted by Gürel on January 01, 2010, 05:18 PM | #

Hi,
I’m very sad to hear that kind of news as a muslim from Turkey.

We hope we never hear that kind news again.

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Posted by armchair quarterback on January 08, 2010, 03:19 AM | #

I would like to inform the audience that a similar scenario took place in Russia after the Union collapsed. Some of the newly established independent regimes enjoyed a series of below-the-radar ethic cleanses and subsequent white flight.

These days, it seems, the vast majority of crime and atrocities around the world is being committed by Muslims. Although I do not blame Islam per se - and I believe it is mandatory to outline that Islam is not a structured entity (as in ‘we do not believe in Limbo now’), what can be preached on one corner is not to be tolerated on another, I am leaning towards acknowledging that you people have made every effort to make your presence intolerable.

Unfortunately, your claim with respect to ‘us’ being occupied with projecting the wrongdoings of a bunch of unmannered immigrants to paint ‘Muslim culture in its entirety’ does not fly. EVERY civilised society in Europe is being exposed to a similar set of ‘cultural differences’, where ENORMOUS (2/3) proportions of certain types of crime involve non-white Muslim population. Logically, in case the issue had nothing to do with the barbaric nature of your culture, these numbers would be ‘shared’ among the locals and Polish, Romanian, Portuguese, Russian, etc, immigrants.

Certainly, a little deportation could not possibly hurt. Notwithstanding, I would also like to see a more developed legal system. Probably as innovative as prosecuting criminals on the basis of the environment that prevails in their country of origin (or their parents’). Most important, however, is that non-militant Muslim representatives should voice their contempt for these various barbaric actions.

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Posted by lnfidel on January 10, 2010, 02:35 PM | #

Posted by Alain on May 09, 2009, 07:59 PM |
so… 2 swedish, 1 finn and 1 somali… but before arriving to this web i only read: a somalian gang… so tell me, is this a somalian gang? was this rape true? it seems not.



If you are too retarded to bother to read the whole passage, don’t even bother posting your ridiculous comments. The article states more than clearly, that state run censorship and marxist press ethics, would have us believe that the rapists were 2 Swedes, a Finn and a Somali, when i fact they all were ethnic Somalis. The treacherous scumbags that orchestrate this lie, in order to pacify the indigenous European people into appreciating the dystopia of multiculturalism, are guilty of high treason, as they, by withholding the truth, are assisting an old and vile enemy aspiring to colonize our lands, and what’s worse, without ever a shot been fired. Islam is the sworn enemy of the West, yet these cretins, devote themselves to prostituting our nations for oil and surrendering our people to an ideology that is bent on destroying our Judeo-Christian heritage.

The number of rapes committed by Muslims are so extremely high that it is impossible to view them only as random acts, but rather as a part of a warfare used to demoralize nations. Muhammad the arch pedophile, himself indulged in raping enslaved bodies of girls, and prisoners of war, he claimed as war booty, thus giving justification to these hideous acts, as he is viewed to be a perfect human being whose behavior every devout muslim is to emulate.

The only way to save Western civilization from its democratic and over tolerant pathetic self, is to change the constitution, so that the vengeful sword of majority rule will be brought down to bear upon fascistoid ideologies, trying to use constitutionally granted freedoms and rights, to destroy our civilization from within.

Measures I hope will come into effect already during my lifetime:

*End to all muslim immigration to our countries.
*Revoked citizenship and repatriation of all foreigners that indulge in serious acts of crime.
*Ban on building new mosques.
*The Qur’an banned due to the hatred and violence it incites against non-Muslims.
*Tribunals, to charge with high treason (a crime once was punishable by death but these days only renders life imprisonment), the pseudo-humanists, irresponsible political trendsetters, quasi-intellectuals and wishy-washy journalists from leftist-controlled MSM, that are guilty of selling out our nations.

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Posted by lnfidel on January 11, 2010, 03:19 PM | #

And those wealthy behind-the-scenes individuals who get their bought marionettes like Bush and Blair elected in the first place then give them their marching orders once in office, ordering them to open the borders wide and keep them open no matter what hue and cry goes up from the populace.  These shadowy figures behind the scenes who are doing this to us, whom we never see clearly or never at all, are the ones Steven Palese meant when he said, “Something’s blocking the democratic process.” Something’s blocking it all right.  And on the day the arrest warrants go out and these culprits dash to the nearest airport to catch the first flight out, something will be blocking the planes from taking off.

Hehe Fred Scrooby, excellently put!  May that day of reckoning arrive soon, so that the scoundrels that have orchestrated the biggest scam in world history, by among other things, force-feeding their own people a hostile ideology, and pursuing vote cultivation by impregnating the lands of their people with an incompatible culture at odds with their way of life, that in essence would come to undermine cultural affinity, destroy national identity, and turn over half a billion people (present population of The EU) into a rootless, passive and easily controllable mass, to be enslaved under the yoke of a foreign god, get what’s coming to them.

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Posted by lnfidel on January 11, 2010, 03:25 PM | #

*Correction* meant -with foreigners from an incompatible culture at odds with their way of life-

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Posted by Just Me on January 14, 2010, 09:02 PM | #

Posted by Daud Kadir on April 18, 2006, 01:39 PM | #

Women in the west is pervert mentality society.When they are born normal,most of them lost their virginity or commit incest within their family structure.[..] Unlike muslim women,even they are involve in bizarre sex

I have to say that of the 3 Muslim women I (as white Christian) had sex with in my life so far, all of them were more open to bizarre sex and things that European women usually would never do in the first night that I can only wonder what the world would be like if the Muslim women were not so well-behaved and moral as you claim.

Excuse me? Oh, of course, you’re right - these must have been spoilt by living in Europe, how could I be so blind not to see the obvious here.

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Posted by Johnson on February 04, 2010, 11:45 PM | #

I don’t hate Muslims, but you have no right to make any remarks about racism in Western Nations. 20% of the inhabitants of Mauritania are slaves mostly blacks to lighter skinned Arabs. And in the Sudan the genocide in Darfur, the tiny Arab minority dealt with blacks as less than human, in history they have beat them, raped them, enslaved most of them, and killed them and now that they finally dared to rebel as Arab singer women say, black blood has been spilled like water. And many Muslim Government leaders proceeded to then shake hands with the President of the Sudan and deny the truth. As for Zionism, the west is ignoring what is a simple truth Hamas and Hezbollah are plotting genocide against the Israeli people. Want proof they as I mentioned deny Darfur, they also deny the Holocaust, they unlauch a wave of anti-Semitic material even in children’s shows, they even ban the Diary of Anne Frank as being Zionist propoganda. They are murders elected democratically or not they should be on trial for incitement to genocide.

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Posted by test on March 10, 2010, 06:52 PM | #

I just don’t get it. Folks from Sweden, kick out these arabs from your country!

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Posted by A_Reader on March 25, 2010, 02:16 PM | #

They can’t kick them out now, nor can any westernized country.
Already starting their ‘we are a very special victims group and you whites are the boogie man” crap here in Canada, accusing ‘us’ of being racists…be quite a laugh, if it weren’t so foreboding.

Best we can do is to limit and counter their every move to divide and marginalize us to the point that we can’t speak out against what they are up to politically or otherwise, and sadly that’s already happening in spurts and fits.
NEVER had violent protests at universities in Canada to “SHUT UP” someone, only when the spoiled rich muslim adult-students from ME countries moved here, did it start to happen at a more serious level.
And they target Jews and Christians ONLY…and the cbc sheeple just wonder why…man we are so dumb and complacent it’s sickening.

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Posted by Darren Lawson on March 25, 2010, 05:17 PM | #

The same pattern is displayed here in Britain and ignored by the government as the most vulnerable are targeted for rape by Muslims who say that they do it because they’re Muslim while white liberals say that Islam has nothing to do with it.  Great article mate and keep fighting where you can.

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Posted by james on April 06, 2010, 10:12 PM | #

We need a virus like , like what we used on the rabbits in aussie land, to deal with the blacks islamists globe wise. We need the worlds population reduced by about 4 billion, lets get rid of the useless, shit in africa and the arabs, about time, they received terrorism ,the other way around. BNP MEMBER.hitler didnt go far enough.PORTLAN DOWN

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Posted by Angela Grace VanBuren on April 18, 2010, 05:15 PM | #

why are so many of the people commenting just absolute shitheads?  religion is a fine thing as long as no humans are involved.  as a slutty blonde, blue-eyed american i’d just like to say go fuck yourself.  cheers!

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Posted by Owais on April 26, 2010, 04:16 PM | #

I am a Muslim myself and i don’t believe in what the “Mullahs” tell me, I believe in what i teach myself by reading the Holy Quran with translation. Rape is a crime punishable with death in Islam so i dont understand where you are coming from when you say it is “...in the sunnah and in the Quran…” to rape someone. Well you did state that it is said in the Quran and you also said it is in the Sunnah BUT you did not tell us WHERE it is stated, where are you getting this information from. Just by saying oh it says in the bible to rape little boys is not gonna hold much ground, so similarly what you are saying doesnt mean a thing. BACK up what you are telling the people, brin facts and ficgures and tell people where you are getting those facts and figures brom my dear. Lets all act a little educated and not like barbaric animals. Everyone should be asking themselves one questions, Do they need to be told what to believe in? People can think for themselves but fewer make the effort to actually go out and read about the religions. TEACH yourself dont ask a priest or mullah what to do and what not to do. I personally hate the mullahs half of them are uneducated fools anyways.

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Posted by Frank on May 02, 2010, 03:57 PM | #

Owais,

regardless of true Islam, the raping is done by Muslims. And even if they didn’t rape, they don’t belong there. Islam isn’t tolerant, and neither is Christianity. Muslims ought to remain in their lands, free from foreign bases, and European Christians ought to remain in theirs.

What sort of man abandons his country to move to Europe anyway? It’s not like you sent in a colony: you’re individuals moving in. That’s abandonment of your people. Will you also abandon Europe when sacrifice is required? Certainly.

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Posted by Warda on May 10, 2010, 02:51 PM | #

J Ritchard

Islam allows Muslims men to rape women that their right hand possesses (slaves) and thereby justifies the rape of non-Muslim women in many scenarios.  Prophet Mohammed had a huge number of wives and concubines, and the holy Prophet Mohammed had sex with a pre-pubescent girl.  Does this not meet the definition of a sexual pervert? 
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who said so ? CHECK UR RESOURCES !! & never take such stupid info from weird websites.

in islam if a married man commit rape .. he’d be killed for it .. not in an easy way though .. they whom r responsible would throw stones at him till he die .. i know its a really bad way .. but its the best way for such a bad person… thats how we muslims deal with rape .. that’s how ALLAH (God the creator) wants us to deal with rape .. but u ppl the worse u can do is getting him in jail for awhile then setting him free & makin’ him promise u not to get near to that woman !!

i’m a woman & am 0 sure & proud to tell u, & others, that i feel very safe in islam laws .. although am so sorry most of the islamic countries follows ur weak laws

“in case some1 says this is horrible & sick ... think if ur woman, ur daughter, ur mom has been raped, ofcourse u’d agree to this law & u will accept nothing less than it” 

a woman is a woman no matter the race, the color or any other differances .. islam never says its ok to rape non-muslims !!  this is simply SiCK !

by the way .. ALL WOMEN IN THE WORLD AGREES TO THIS ISLAMIC LAW

i do search & read abt christianity & ofcourse i respect it & i believe in it , not only me but all real muslims do so.

BUT when i want to know something abt christianity, i ask for well known books, a trusted translation that a real christian would suggest.

when i sometimes search with no knowledge, i find some websites + “books” claiming that they’re teaching christianity while its man made sources. just made to give bad example of christianity for others & for weak christians themselves!!
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what i don’t understand is that it was abt immigrants causing problems .. but WHY THE HELL it turned to be abt MUSLiMS !!

even wn u say arabs, there is arab-christians & arab-jews also. WHY THE HELL it turned to be a religion issue ? & now a race issue !  (arab-muslim) !!

we r not all Osama bin Ladin !! although i suspect if that person is real .. yea i do think it’s made up by the media to give bad example for islam ... orelse HOW COME all of the world forces can’t catch 1 poor grey head old man!!
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ppl immigrates to other countries for their own serious reasons. ofcourse NOBODY loves to live in a country other than his/her homeland.

for example, i cant live in my country for my own reasons. but am here in a scandanavian country just living the way i wanted to live in my own country. i’m already a nurse in my country, but now studing hard to become a doctor, & when day i’ll reach my goal .. & on that day .. Phil, u r welcome to my clinic .. i’ll treat u for free .. i can read from ur lines that u have been raped my muslims .. i’m sorry for u that i will treat u for free to show u how sorry i am for u.

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Posted by Warda on May 10, 2010, 03:00 PM | #

Ppl immigrates to other countries for their own serious reasons. ofcourse NOBODY loves to live in a country other than his/her homeland.

for example, i cant live in my country for my own reasons. but am here in a scandanavian country just living the way i wanted to live in my own country. i’m already a nurse in my country, but now studing hard to become a doctor, & ONE day i’ll reach my goal .. & on that day .. Phil, u r welcome to my clinic .. i’ll treat u for free .. i can read from ur lines that u have been raped BY muslims .. i’m sorry for u that i will treat u for free to show u how sorry i am for u.

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Posted by Joe on May 16, 2010, 09:07 PM | #

My friends, being Jewish I hate having to say this but if you are to survive your government will eventually have have to force Muslim immigrants into segregated areas (“guettos”) just like you used to do with Jews back in the middle ages. Otherwise your political correctness toward Muslim immigrants will end up being your undoing. I’m really sorry for your country. Cheers

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Posted by Chris on June 21, 2010, 04:14 AM | #

Muslim Muslim Muslim.. I mean what the fuck people?? Why do you always have to attack Islam?? I’m not a Muslim myself but I had the chance to live among them and God how I wish we can have their values..

Ask anyone who went there and let them tell you how safe they can walk after midnight in the empty streets enjoying the silent night and the moon light, thought, the only thing I used to fear at night is dogs in some streets smile

Anyways, they punish rape with execution, theft “up to certain serious amount” with cutting one hand and think about it, we think it’s cruel right?? But you never see someone with a cut hand in the streets because they’re afraid to steal in the first place so it’s a threat rather than a punishment. On the other hand, they give the poor a great deal, even share their food with them.. I think I’m gonna go Muslim soon, I just need to learn more about it and the conflicts it has with Christianity..

The bottom line is, DO NOT ATTACK PEOPLE BLINDLY JUST BECAUSE OF THEIR RACE OR RELIGION!!

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Posted by Guessedworker on June 21, 2010, 04:33 AM | #

Chris,

The bottom line is that Muslim’s do not value infidel European women as European men do.  For Europeans it isn’t an attack issue, it’s a defence issue.  Got that?

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Posted by Wandrin on June 21, 2010, 04:29 PM | #

Ask anyone who went there and let them tell you how safe they can walk after midnight in the empty streets enjoying the silent night and the moon light

And i could tell them about the large and ever-growing parts of Europe where a non-muslim isn’t safe to walk day or night.

Muslims support a total double-standard over crimes committed against a muslim compared with crimes committed by a muslim on a non-muslim. Hint, in the second case they couldn’t care less.

Educate yourself http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

Also they’re foreigners who don’t belong in Europe even if they didn’t believe in f**ked-up desert religions.

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Posted by Richard Morris on June 26, 2010, 09:23 PM | #

Anti-Muslim propaganda to the Nth degree…its laughable, anyone that knows anything about Islam knows that religion had nothing to do with these incidents. Islam is the only religion that I know that has a legislated the death penalty for rape.

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Posted by Wandrin on June 26, 2010, 09:50 PM | #

Islam is the only religion that I know that has a legislated the death penalty for rape.

Third-world immigrants who hate white people will often display that through rape or sexual assault.

Some muslims have an extra layer of hatred that springs from a kind of quasi-nationalistic envy over white countries being more advanced than muslim ones.

This attitude is then made even worse by islam having a double standard over crimes committed by a muslim on a non-muslim compared to when the victim is a muslim.

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Posted by Richard Morris on June 27, 2010, 12:49 AM | #

This attitude is then made even worse by islam having a double standard over crimes committed by a muslim on a non-muslim compared to when the victim is a muslim.

Wandrin,
You should read more. The best way to find out about a religion is to read their scripture and the teachings of their prophet. You have obviously done neither because you would know that there is no double standard. The punishment for a Muslim and non-muslim are the same according to the Quran and the traditions of our noble prophet Muhammad (may peace be upon him).

If your claims were true you could cite evidence in scripture, but you can’t.

Also I’m Muslim and I don’t envy white people. I also know a TON of Muslims that are white and logically they can’t envy themselves.

Every sample of a social/religious/ethnic/economical group has bad apples, these bad apples are not indicative of the teachings or beliefs of that social group.

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Posted by Wandrin on June 27, 2010, 09:04 PM | #

You have obviously done neither because you would know that there is no double standard.

Yes there is. You’re displaying it. The double standard is in the consideration of what is and is not a crime, not over the punishment if it is decided a crime has been permitted.

What you take with your right arm, etc.

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Posted by Richard Morris on July 05, 2010, 01:00 PM | #

This attitude is then made even worse by islam having a double standard over crimes committed by a muslim on a non-muslim compared to when the victim is a muslim.

The double standard is in the consideration of what is and is not a crime, not over the punishment if it is decided a crime has been permitted.

Dude, you just changed your entire argument to ANOTHER INVALID point in an attempt to resurrect your face…and your still wrong. If the religion supports a double standard then you can provide a quote from its doctrine.

How is considering a something a crime that is not considered a crime buy someone else a double standard?!?

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Posted by Wandrin on July 06, 2010, 06:40 AM | #

I’ll explain slower.

The double standard is not over the punishment for a crime. That’s what you thought the point was the first time.

The double standard is that an action e.g rape, committed against a muslim is considered a crime while the same action when committed by a muslim against a non-muslim is not considered a crime

“What you take by your right arm”

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Posted by Richard Morris on July 10, 2010, 09:23 PM | #

Wandrin,
OK…I’ll make it super simple for you because you seem to seriously have some comprehension issues and really don’t get it. Just read the single sentence below and let the words sink in, please note that this statement is backed by Islamic scripture thus proving your above statement to be false:

IF A MUSLIM RAPES A NON-MUSLIM THE PUNISHMENT IS STILL DEATH ACCORDING ISLAMIC LAW.

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Posted by Simon Worden on July 15, 2010, 02:02 AM | #

Good discussion with MANY points I both agree AND disagree with; Either way, here’s my view; Oh yes, and to those of you moaning and bleating about the so-called PATHETIC victimization of Islam? TOUGH - GET USED TO IT is what I say.  YOU are the ones who have persecuted US in OUR homelands in the west for FAR to long now using our Imperial/Colonial pasts and your ever voracious need for New lands to colonise and new nations to corrupt as a basis for your disgusting and abhorrent attempts to make us ALIENS in our OWN countries!!! 

Well NOW, Guess What idiots? The Wheel is turning THAT is what.  Now we’ve had ENOUGH of you and you’ve MADE us turn back on you with all our might - NOT a clever idea when despite your ridiculous attempts to migrate here 2 by 2 with your familys, houses, cookers, pet camels and Lord knows what else with you - you are STILL outnumbered in OUR countries (got that? DESPITE all the crap you’ve bought here in the form of your pathetic calls to prayer and RIDICULOUS Mosques in CHRISTIAN and CATHOLIC - NOT ISLAMIC countries) In fact despite your best efforts and those of your protectors from the Gulf states (who are the ones REALLY behind these pathetic ‘Multicutural’ policies being driven forward as metnioned earlier), well despite ALL that? You are STILL outnumbered by about 7/8 to every ONE of you - There’s what 2/3, maybe 3-1/2 million Muslims in my country (England) at the moment and there’s in contrast to that - at LEAST 50 - 60 MILLION of ALL other religions here - with Catholics and/or Christians comprising at LEAST 40-45 Million of those numbers. 

Your loudmouthed radicalists (funny how THEY are the ONLY ones we EVER hear from as the “voices” of Islam isn’t it? Maybe because the rest of Islam AGREES with them - but like with their hiding of their TRUE intentions - they are FAR to COWARDLY to EVER admit it maybe?)and Imams etc can proclaim that ‘death’ is coming to the West in OUR countries (which WE, not YOU run BTW) all they like but the truth is? They REALLY shouldn’t have done THAT.  By doing so they’ve now grabbed the tail of a sleeping Lion and woken up even the densest of our Western Citizens to what you’re REALLY up to and with you outnumbered 7/8 to 1 over HERE? That was NOT a wise move to say the least as you’ve now probably begun the process that WILL eventually lead to Islam being if not destroyed then eventually reduced to a minority religion sooner or later as people ALL over the World realise just HOW violent and non-conciliatory it is. 

You see there’s a couple of other factors here to consider - Firstly Islam CAN’T fight the Internet and the Internet is revealing to Muslim after Muslim in your HOME lands of the likes of most of Africa, Syria, Turkey, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, even Afgahnistahn etc how brutal, violent and backward your ridiculous middle-aged style of a religion REALLY is - How it shouts and screams to get it’s own way ALL the time, how it prizes DEATH above life (even with CHILDREN in the case of Palestine bombers), how it represses an entire HALF of your own races (in women - who have PLENTY to offer you as members of society but are NEVE able to due to your pathetic, ridiculous, overoppressive laws against them) and how it HATES the thought of ANY technological advances (including the Internet itself) and seeks to leave ALL it’s followers in lifestyles more suited to the Middle Ages. What’s more the Internet ALSO shows these MANY (in the majority now) followers of Islam in Islam’s OWN nations just HOW opposed to ANY other religion Islam is, how DETERMINED it is to Destroy ALL such other religions no matter what and how it thus effectively legitimises such abhorrent and despicable practises as rape, murder, suicided bombing etc in the name of “advancing Islam” and you know what? The Islamic people in your mother countries are SEEING all this and CONVERTING away to Christianity, CATHOLICISM even, Hinduism,  Buddhism etc - ANYTHING but Islam as they are becoming so horrified and disillusioned at the sheer SAVAGERY of the religion they until then represented. 

Furthermore, This HUGE loss of numbers in your home countries (MILLIONS convert AWAY from Islam DAILY now don’t they? ESPecially in Africa and in increasing numbers in Asia to now no?) - Anyway, this Massive drain of Islamic followers is what you’re therefore TRYING to redress by alienating us in our OWN Western Countries of Europe, America, Canada and supplanting us with growing (but stil SMALL) Muslim populations isn’t it? But it’s to late - You’ve lost FAR to many followers in you homelands by now AND with the MAJORITY of NON-Muslims in the Western countries FINALLY turning on you as your sheer ABUSE of their hospitality for YEARS now deserves?  Well, let’s just say it doesn’t look HALF as good for Islam as the papers, media and pro-Islamic ‘Elite’ would have us all think fellow Christians and Catholics on here - They say that “Empty Vessels make the most noise” and “Empty” is PRECISELY what I think the threat after threat after threat of Muslim Immams and public speakers to destroy the West are - They go on about how WE are outnumbered, how WE are losing followers and how they WILL win but in reality? THEY are the ones outnumbered - THEY are haemorraging support ALL over the globe and THEY are the ones whose OWN religion is disgusting it’s OWN followers in now record numbers and turning them away from it FORever. 

So carry on threatening us Islam - Carry on going on with your ridiculous and awful “honour-killing” and “threatening apostates” tactics to FORCE women and those who abandon Islam to either REembrace it/be dominated by it’s men or be killed but guess WHAT? It’s YOU who is so heavily outnumbered, YOU who lack the sheer NUMBERS to do what you threaten and YOU who will eventually CLEARLY be overwhelmed.  Even WITH all the Islamic families in England for example and even IF they grow over 20 years to 5 or more million instead of 3? They’ll STILL be outnumbered by nearly TEN to one as ALL the NON-Islamic families in England will grow and have descendants TO and They outnumber you by FAR here in the West in ALL our countries - they always WILL.  And also? You made a BIG mistake in winding us up enough to fight back now - I see Muslims here shunned in the street or looked askance on by ALL sides other than Islam ALL the time now and I see CONSTANT legal challenges to Muslim plans - even peaceful ones in England now with HUGE numbers of Mosques and other buildings being either BANNED from being built or abandoned - NONE of that happened even 5 years ago or so but after your compatriots attacked and bombed our capital London? Well everything changed then and you’ve only yourselves to blame for what’s happening now and it’s not just here EITHER - MANY other Western Countries, amongst them; France (who are banning veils as we speak), Denmark and Sweden (who are FINALLY protecting their women from your followers), Canada (who are regretting EVER letting you in) and the US (who hate ALL you stand for) to name but a few are ALL getting tough and confronting the Islamo-Facism within their borders and it’s WAY past time they did so not before time either.

I think that one day you’ll realise this - realise the ENORMOUS mistake you made in so many of you abandoning your homelands which are becoming LESS Islamic by the day now and coming here to lands you could NEVER rule totally;  Maybe One day you’ll ALL go back there unless you LEARN to fit in with us HERE!! Our Country - OUR RULES, UNDERSTOOD - NOT pick and choose such rules as you like and gradually overwrite others with “Islamic” ones.  We’ve had ENOUGH of you, ENOUGH of Islam and it’s “needs”, “requirements” and “Punishments” and even if you DID outnumber us and you COULD come up with even HALF the victories your overconfident spokespeople THINK you could? You’d NEVER beat us in our OWN countries - you know WHY? Because IF You bottle up people for LONG enough with NO outlet as Islam tries to do to EVERYTHING bar it’s OWN followers and fanatics? Then they WILL explode like a volcano or overheated kettle - and the resulting explosion would have looked like what is happening now ANYWAY with Islam being turned back on ALL fronts - It’s just a shame for YOU that you don’t even come CLOSE to outnumbering us in our OWN lands isn’t it?  And it will make the eventual shattering of ANY hopes of power in OUR countries that you might have all the more painful. 

In conclusion and basically put? Islam is dying - slowly, but surely and over a VERY long period of time and when an idea/religion/cult Dies like a great and noble beast it ALWAYS makes a lot of noise and lets EVERYONE know of it’s passing - Well? That’s EXACTLY what Islam is doing NOW - It may not happen today, or tommorrow, maybe not even in the next DECADE but Islam WILL regress to minority status - It’s OWN followers are now rebelling en masse against it and it’s sheer brutality - it’s intended targets in the West FAR outnumber it and have now woken up to it’s intentions and as such? It WILL be crushed between the actions of the two to either remove themselves FROM it or remove IT from their lands in the end (Islam might have burst from the Arabian peninsula and conquered all the East in the 7th Century from Byzantium and Persia? But they WANTED to be conquered - we do NOT and will fight to the death to prevent it).  There is NOTHING Islam can do to stop this now UNLESS it becomes tolerant, sharing, gentle and FINALLY learns to LIVE with rather than make WAR on ALL other religions - but then Islam will NEVER do that will it? And THAT intrasigence is what has signed it’s own Death Warrant as a major power even if it Doesn’t know it yet…................

NB - I don’t HATE Islam as such - EVERYTHING above is MY view of Islam and it’s CONSTANT attempts to IMPOSE itself where it’s NOT wanted (and if ANY Muslim EVER attempts to impose it on me or my young son in person in MY country? They’ll wish they hadn’t - put it that way);  Well, this is MY reply to it in print - I don’t really CARE what the “softly-softly” “Islam is NOT violent/dominating/brutal” and “multiculturalism” etc brigades say.  It is THEY and their sheer SKEWING of EVERYTHING legally, culturally and politically in FAVOUR of Islam over the last decade or so in order to ENSURE it’s attempts at dominance that has CAUSED all this.  Well, flame away - scream all you like - I’ll PROBABLY get the same insults/threats etc thrown at me here as the Danish Cartoonists who wrote a satire on the Prophet Mohammed in Denmark once did won’t I? Well difference is A:) I don’t care and B:) Islam can TAKE it’s attempts to inhibit FREE speech and LAUNCH them!!! In truth this is NO worse than many of the FAR worse tirades/harangues and threatening monologues (and often FAR longer ones) that I’ve seen from MANY Muslims down the years on the Internet against Catholicism, Christianity and ALL who are not Muslim. 

These all include documents I’ve read quite regularly and which have NEVER been remarked on - much less attacked as I no doubt will be for THIS.  Like I said, I don’t CARE though - this is a MILD reply to some of the crap I’ve seen written against my country, it’s neighbours and my religion in CONSTANT Islamic attacks over the last decade and I decided to exercise MY right to Free Speech to write it - show I WON’T be silenced and say something that’s NEEDED saying for a LONG time by MY side of the argument. Islam may not like the fact that it no longer has the microphone to say what it likes to itself but so what? It never COULD face a FAIR argument could it? Well it will have to now and I say that as I think it’s RIDICULOUS that I will no doubt be slated and shouted at for this yet others in the colours of Islam who write FAR worse than this (exhorting murder, conquest and war amongst other things) never even recieve derogatory REMARKS for such rubbish - Well? It’s time to redress the balance somewhat.

To conclude though - you seem to have forgotten Muslims; What did I tell you earlier? I Said IF you bottle up people or BAN them from talking TO much as Islam ALWAYS tries to do to ALL who are different or who oppose it? Well, then there WILL be a violent explosion and that explosion in this case has only just begun - Thanks to Islam’s CONSTANT attacks on them? The Silent Majority of ABI’s (All bar Islam - Anyone of a religion NOT Islam in other words) here have FINALLY woken up and decided to TAKE their freedom of action, their lives and rules and their COUNTRIES back from what Islam has done to them; As demonstrated here in England by the end of the Islam-obsessed Labour Government, constant suspicion of and blocking of Islamic plans and Muslims which was NEVER there before 2005 etc.  Islam sowed the wind of what is happening now in the last decade by it’s ridiculous and constant attempts to conquer the West from within and CONSTANTLY silence it’s own critics and women.  NOW? It is reaping the whirlwind and a VERY strong whirlwind it IS to.  Little about Islam will be recognisable once that whirlwind blows itself out and after all the heartache and misery it’s caused down the centuries (not least NOW?) Maybe that’s a good thing and the world can FINALLY move on from constant religious conflicts.  This could be a good thing after all, this tide turning against Islam but one things for sure - I doubt Islam in it’s CURRENT form or anything LIKE it will be there once this constant upheaval has ended…..............................

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Posted by iloveislam on August 17, 2010, 09:44 PM | #

Phil Petterson, u a sick person and if u do not repent, u a goin to burn!!!!!!!!!!!! in Jahanam. u an ignorant fool and all the other anti Islamic people. Why dont u people dress decently the way Allah ordained, u dress seductively and yet u complain when u a raped.Follow Allah and the Sunnah and e saved in this life and in the hereafter. The ignorant FOOL who wrote the article and claimed that it is right for people to rape others in the Quran and Sunnah, u a wrong. And why you have to write such a lie is what I do not understand. It is soo stupid and childish and petty.You unbelievers are so frustrated with your self that you have resorted to LIES to make your points.Why dont you quote what ALLAH really said in the Quran and the Holy Prophet MUHAMMED SALLALAHU ALLAIHI WA SALAM!! practised instead of concorting stories.Repent before it is too late for you, or else I pity you

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Posted by islamrules!!!!!!!!!!! on August 17, 2010, 10:09 PM | #

HEY SIMON WORDEN OR WATEVA THE NOISE YOUR NAME IS MAKING IN MY EARS, did you really think before you wrote wat u wrote?,Are you alright?.You just wrote long pages of arrant nonsense!!!!.When I first saw your comments and i saw how long it was i tot i will read some sense in it but I was DISSAPOINTED. Where have you been all these years? saying Islam is not gaining ground.Look around you man, we are ruling!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!,and INSHA ALLAH,THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING. Islam does not propagate Violence but instead we propagate peace.The basis of Islam is PEACE. But you guyz do not take the time to learn about wat Islam is all about, u just say and write blasphemy. Thousands of people are being raped by you people (Christians, jews,atheists),yet you will not publicize but let one muslim make a mistake, you will leave the individual as a person and capitalize on his religion. You are just deceiving and confusing yourselves.You guyz should open your eyes to the reality of the situation. YOU CAN NOT STOP US!!!!!.ALLAH is with us and you are just incuring HIS wrath and I pray it is not too late before you realize it.May Allah save you people!!@ Zam Zam, dont mind dat"Phil’‘, you are making sense,and May Allah reward you and all we muslims and may we never go astray,amin.Insha Allah

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Posted by Simon Worden on August 26, 2010, 01:49 AM | #

islamrules!!!!!!!!!!! Consider what I said a warning of sorts to your co-religionists who would impose Islam by force where it has NO business being present at all.  If you are peaceful and seek only to PREACH Islam then more power to you and well done but if you seek to spread it via Force as so many of your fellows do? Then Stay away from Europe is what I would say to you and stay away for a good few decades as well since you won’t find it anything LIKE as welcoming to your kind as it once was.  As to your reply? Well, WHAT a surprise - I wondered just HOW long it would be before one of you conversion/conquest obsessed, “we are in charge”, rubbish spouting Islamic followers came out to attempt to justify your current campaign to get your own way in the world and I wasn’t disappointed - It only took you just over a month.  I’ll say this shall I? I DO look around me as you advised me to and when I do - I don’t see Islam ruling or it’s glory or anything LIKE that - DO you know what I see now? I see ANGER, fury and people pushed to the limit/who’ve had ENOUGH of your religion and it’s allies attempting to FORCE it down their throats 24/7.  I see anger, resentment and a boiling but hitherto silent fury at Islam EVERYWHERE I go in the UK at the moment - I see Muslims ignored and Challenged now everywhere THEY go since July 2005 and the London Bombings - I hear from Friends of mine in Europe that it is similar there and do you know what I think? I think you Muslims have forgotten one of the Cardinal Rules of Life in your rush to attempt to replace OUR culture, religion and laws of OUR lands where YOU are guests with your own islamrules!!!.  Do you know what that rule is? I’ll tell you yes?

The rule is “Do unto others as you would have done to yourself” Basically, in the Middle Ages we oppressed you and your religion and lorded it over you yes but in the end you got sick of us, rose up and brought your religion to a position of power that it is in now no? Well WHAT law is there to say WE can’t similarly now turn turn on Islam, rise against it en-masse as YOU once did to US?.........Nothing - Islam can dominate and rule many countries and achieve many things - Often using popular fury to get what it wants but what happens when popular fury/mob rule (i.e. Islam’s favourite trick) is used AGAINST Islam? I suspect we may soon find out since as you may have noticed in Europe by now and as I’ve just detailed - People are becoming SO angry with Islam that there might soon be a popular explosion fury against and an uprising directed solely AT?........Islam. There is NO law preventing that happening yes?
More to the point, like a kettle filled up with water and slowly reaching boiling point, I can see OUR people getting angrier and angrier at your co-religionists constant need to dominate along with their ENTIRE religion in general and it being promoted 24/7 and used to cover a multitude of sins from the oppression of your women to using bombs and deadly weapons/spouting offensive and dangerous propaganda against us. 

I look and can see our people thus far STILL being polite to you and extending you our hospitality (and not just here in the UK but in the WHOLE of Europe as well) but only just now.  This is because I can also see what you cannot as you are not looking for it - I can see that our patience is wearing thin, our tolerance for the pathetic experiment that is ‘multiculturalism’ and co-existence with you and your kind is running out.  I can see ALL this bottled up anger on our (European’s) part and that it also has nowhere to go openly at the moment as it’s seen as Politically Incorrect in much of Europe to take anger at Islam (thanks to?........Islam) with the result that you don’t need me to predict that there WILL soon be an explosion of that anger ALL over Europe at Islam and when there is? We’ll see who rules THEN shall we? Considering that despite your recent levels of immigration/numbers throughout Europe - You are outnumbered something to the order of EIGHT to one in EVERY country and you are STILL only in those nations by your host’s goodwill and long patience - I think you should consider very carefully whether you want to ‘Rule’ your hosts and risk angering them enough to reveal what they REALLY think of Islam now Or? If you want to ‘Co-Exist’ with them and try to fit into THEIR cultures as you damn well would expect US to do IF we came over to YOUR lands to live!!! Basically the message is FIT IN OR GET OUT!!!!! And if you try and introduce a different way ‘Change Your Hosts’? Which your fellow religionists clearly ARE - Not only are you DOOMED to failure - But the explosion and Backlash against your religion that you WILL cause as a result are going to happen VERY soon, Very soon indeed…............

NB - I said that Islam is losing millions of converts a year in Africa and your other homelands and you ARE - Maybe you should all concentrate on consolidating your power THERE rather than Employing useless fantasies of conquest and rule that you can never Possibly hope to fulfil in Europe as you’ll NEVER get REAL power here - Whatever you think, the power you currently hold is only due to the fact that you haven’t annoyed US enough to turn on you, yet and due to the losses your now clearly suffering in your OWN lands with people turning AWAY from Islam? Maybe your overall numbers in terms of followers are rather lower now than you think….....................

NNB: I said ME and MY Son/Family and all who know us WON’T give in to/follow or even care about Islam at all EVER and if you think that Islam REALLY rules over here - You should meet us as I can tell you that you would have VERY different ideas indeed once we had told you how little we care for it!!!  Islam will NEVER have a hold on my Family or Friends and most certainly not on Me OR My son and any Muslim who ever tries to change that situation will soon wish they hadn’t - Multiculturalism or NO Multiculturalism.  We are happy as we are and don’t need, want or care for Islam to change that.  EVER!!!....................

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Posted by jane on September 01, 2010, 01:11 AM | #

Islam is fucked; I mean they worship a false prophet. Muhammad wasn’t a nice person he was a thief and a criminal; he was also a concubine and a pedophile, which had a 6 year old and 9 year old as wives, not to mention he raped young girls. He preached violence and he got the word Allah from the pagan god of the moon. Anyone who worships this man is an idiot, he was a horrible person. And not to mention through the book he cursed anyone who was not Muslim. He makes god look bad, but in the Torah and bible he is not like this. Jesus never did any of what Muhammad did. Jesus said to love and care for each other, not to blow each other up. Muslims stone people to death and they have a holiday where they cut a women’s privates wtf what they did in history is the very same as what they do today. Other religions aren’t like Muslims. Even if you talk about anything that slightly relates to their religion they crack the sad, even if you weren’t talking or had Islam in mind. They riot and kill innocent people, they are the modern they Aztecs. If we don’t stop them who know what they’ll does perhaps another 9/11 maybe even a holocaust of people who aren’t Muslim? I DON’T WANT TO SEE A WORLD WAR 3!!!!! P.S THEY ALSO COLLABORATED WITH HITLER DURING WORLD WAR 2. AND THERE IS A PASSAGE IN THE KORAN WHICH SAY’S KILL ALL THE JEWS!!! AND THOSE WHO AREN’T MUSLIM! HOW’S THAT FOR RELIGION OF PEACE, RELIGION OF PEACE MY A**

http://www.bibleprobe.com/islamapostates.htm.
http://www.bibleprobe.com/muhammad.htm
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/01/islam-celebrate.html#comment-6a00d8341c60bf53ef01348689409b970c
http://www.kamalsaleem.com/
http://bigjournalism.com/pgeller/2010/02/07/the-mufti-of-jerusalem-architect-of-the-holocaust/
http://www.bibleprobe.com/christianmartyrs-armenia.htm
http://stopthe911mosque.com/2010/08/27/david-beamer-condems-ground-zero-mosque/comment-page-1/#comment-450,http://unitelater.com/s9y/index.php?/categories/11-Islamism
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQS_Wy8MKvw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FzwYdVLsYI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfovTPQxSg0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w57JLmY5dmw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLxQNgHUtqA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaCavMzBja4
http://www.middleeastinfo.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=6610
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFL_0DEVw_o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3h1WnTqHwg&NR=1

http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=desecrated churches&um=1&biw=1152&bih=639&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=iw

http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=1794

http://www.faithfreedom.org/articles/gallery/muhammad-abd-aisha/

http://www.kamalsaleem.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=84&Itemid=54
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDSadb5fduY&feature=related
http://net-burst.net/hot/muslim.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wstz209oGk&feature=related
http://www.armeniapedia.org/index.php?title=Armenian_Genocide
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5e4cYGgjvqM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n46iyMfM1F8&feature=related

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Posted by Ric G on September 08, 2010, 12:24 AM | #

they really lack social skills and appear to get excited when they see women with the bags removed from their heads.. I suppose if they kept finding “tackle” when they go the grope on their own kind with the heads bagged, it would be frustrating, especially if they did not want their friends to know they are gay. so the frustration of rolling them over after the event and finding tackle would cause mental illness and they can hardly believe their minds. so they get together, each afraid to touch the female in case past experience reveals itself and their gayness is “out of the closet”. it is bitter sweet for them, because to see a female face and then engage in intercourse, is rather a new experience for “them”. We only bagged the heads of the most ugly, like when u r drunk and wake up and wanna cut your arm off rather than wake the beast next to you and creep out of the room as quietly and quickly as we can “both female and male this occurs” like omg what did I do? We simply don’t apply the “bag method” to make us as happy as them with “non natural selection”. Ours impaired by alcohol theirs by bagging and Religion.

Bagging all their womenfolk’s heads is rather a situation which appears to have back fired on them, all the gay ones bag their heads and young men engaging them, only to find “tackle” after the event, “has caused the inbreeding results we see today”, where they marry their sisters and brothers, because having bathed together as children, they know it is halal, and reproduce in abundance, then there is their first cousins who are only guaranteed by their uncles and aunties (uncles and aunties,who are for many their first sexual experience from the age of about 6 years, homosexual experience that is).
All they really need is to go to a bar, have a few drinks and ask for someone to have sex with them, but grooming is also not their forte. I really think they should all be put back in a country where they would be happier and not have to gang together to share one woman amongst 9 or 10 of them, when we prefer one of us and two women.. my conclusion is inbreeding has canceled out all social skills to be able to enjoy the physical attraction “of the opposite sex”, it is simply painful for them to even think about male/female sex, and where we delight, they suffer real pain and disgust during intercourse, this is irreversibly ingrained in themselves by their culture.

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Posted by Europe to Europeans!!!! on October 07, 2010, 05:03 AM | #

Multiculturalizm is sick and perverted ideology created to destroy Europe and European culture and people! Fortunatelly, East and Central Europe do not have a lot of muslim and african imigrants, but unfortunatelly the EU is forcing to new european countries to addopt more pleague from muslim and african areas. STOP IT!!! East Europe has own problem - gypsies - politicly correct named ROMAS. They do not want to work and live on money from state social support…. terrible.

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Posted by peter the great on October 07, 2010, 06:54 PM | #

Europe, prepare for flood

Op-ed: Open letter to Europeans, who killed Jews and are now contending with radical Islam

Avi Rath
Published:    10.07.10, 17:57 / Israel Opinion

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Good evening Europe!

Hello to you, dear continent. For a while now I’ve been meaning to write you a few words, as a close neighbor here in the Middle East who loves traveling through your beautiful landscape, and whose roots lie deep within the continent.


You were our home for thousands of years, and especially for the past 1,000 years. We’ve known good times of neighborly relations as well as economic, cultural and spiritual prosperity. Yet we had also known difficult days of hatred, expulsions, humiliation, and blood libels. Oh, did we ever know such days.


Somehow, we survived; both you and us. To our regret, and shamefully for you, we were not the ones who chose to end our affair with you, dear continent. We could have maintained neighborly relations and cooperation for many more years, yet for reasons of your own you chose to put an end to this partnership, literally.

The plan was formulated on your soil, the camps were built there and the trains traveled there; the graves were dug on your soil, and
the blood flowed to your rivers. Within a short period of time, you cut off a significant, 1,000-year Jewish presence. You murdered and expelled millions of loyal Jewish citizens. You eliminated not only them, but also all their contributions to the culture, economy, art, humanities, academics, literature, medicine, education, commerce, banking, and life in general.


I’ve been meaning to write you for a long time, yet it hasn’t worked out. However, this week, after seeing two things, I decided that I must say a few words.


First, I saw reports drafted by all sorts of demography and sociology experts, who claim that within a few years, you, Europe, will be turning Muslim. In some European states, 50% of all births at this time already are Muslim. If we add this to the low birthrates of non-Muslim European - where you, the white, Christian Europe, shall turn into a Muslim continent.


You are indeed trying to engage in rearguard battles against this phenomenon – against mosques in Switzerland, against burqas in France, against immigration, and against all sorts of other things. Yet you too realize that this train cannot be stopped. Nobody will be able to forbid a Muslim woman from putting on a veil. Indeed, the liberal, enlightened, and scantily-clad European women realize that a day may come where radical Islam gains enough strength to end the party.

The second thing I saw was the travel advisories issued by many states to warn their citizens against heading to Europe for fear of terrorism. Someone already noted (and it wasn’t necessarily a Jew) that while not all Muslims are terrorists, for some reason most terrorists are Muslim.

Slowly, our dear continent, you are starting to understand what you’re dealing with here. You are starting to understand the kind of religion and culture brought along by radical Islam. Suddenly, you discover hatred and the culture of martyrs, as well as intolerance and isolation, alienation in the face of real democracy, and the shunning of human and women’s rights.


Suddenly, radical Islam is stuck like a bone in Europe’s throat. You cannot eject it – because that would immediately raise cries of racism, human rights, and the usual babble – but you cannot swallow it either, because the white, democratic, liberal and Christian European culture cannot contain such radical cultural and religious elements. It will end with a major explosion, in more than one way.

Dear continent, there is no vacuum in the world. You expelled and exterminated us, and got the Muslim world instead. At first it was nice, getting a little Mideastern atmosphere and breeze, yet with the passage of time the radical Islamic storm arrived and now threatens to sweep you away, our dear neighbor.

Now you are starting to sleep in the bed you made. Suddenly you are discovering women wearing veils, zealous eyes, and mosques at every corner. Suddenly you need to contend with high birthrates, a culture with radical characteristics which you cultivated, and terrorism and violence which you ignored. You cannot deny this for much longer. The confrontation is already here. Unfortunately we are already experts on the issue, even though here too there is no shortage of naïve, self-righteous individuals.

The first time the Creator decided to raze the world as result of our conduct, he agreed to grant humanity another chance. He asked Noah to go into the ark in order to create a new basis for the world and produce a more decent humanity. The ark was the world’s chance; a momentary shelter.

So dear Europe, will you be wise enough to prepare ahead of time a physical and cultural Noah’s Ark in order to survive and preserve yourself? Or will your aggressiveness, arrogance, and hypocrisy not allow you to admit to the disaster you brought upon yourself, turning into a continent living on borrowed time?

Regards,

Your Jewish neighbor from the Middle East

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