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Posted by jamesUK on May 01, 2010, 09:27 PM | #

What do they actually discuss at these tea parties?

I’m guessing Obama is a socialist/Marxist Communist (well his staff looks like the first post revolutionary government of Russia, hell probably financed by the same Jewish banks as well) and that we should bomb Iran.

Probably talk a little about immigration maybe?

Posted by Frank on May 01, 2010, 09:33 PM | #

The taboo they apparently use is everyone repeats over and again “we are not racists; we are conservatives”. “Conservative” apparently means one blindly serves the state, war (any war), Israel, Christian moral values, and lower taxes - something from those. Images of lone black or Mexican activists are displayed as poster boys to remind how unracist everyone is, though the crowds are overwhelmingly white.

Though they take it a step forward by demonising Ron Paul, so those who want lower taxes have no idea what they want to cut, not that I like Paul (useful fanatic).

They ultimately support team Republican, but more importantly they oppose team Democrat who is scary and “socialist”.

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The Tea Parties started off more strongly against immigration, but now that they have leaders they seem to be less opposed to it.

Posted by Guest Blogger on May 01, 2010, 09:36 PM | #

Who took that photograph?

Posted by jamesUK on May 01, 2010, 09:45 PM | #

@Frank

I think they will create a third party that will focus on immigration, smaller government which is the mantra both parties use already and support for Israel.

Posted by sirrealpolitik on May 01, 2010, 10:16 PM | #

the neo-cohens have hijacked much of the tea party’s mojo, as neo-cohens are wont to do.

but there’s still some vital, un-shilled energy there.

and yes they’re mostly too busy trying to prove they’re not raaaayyycissss.

i will say i like ron paul: anti aipac, anti federal reserve. are you saying we should reject him for some (presumably petty) reason? if you can’t like paul, who then? beggars can’t be choosers here. he’s our best pol, as it were.

Posted by Frank on May 01, 2010, 10:32 PM | #

jamesUK,

A3P is already up and running. Who needs a new party when you’ve got perfection?

Posted by Frank on May 01, 2010, 10:37 PM | #

sirrealpolitik,

the term I used is “useful fanatic”, so yes I find him useful. Perhaps I should be dishonest and praise the man, but the past in America has taught that election competitions will replace ethnicity in a heart beat. Americans / Southerners / whatever cease being human (in spirit…) and become “party members” or “ideologues”.

He stood up for “us”, and I have no definition, so I’ll become him! Me too, this is so fun - my life has meaning!

I’d rather whites embraced that we have no leaders and are a people on the brink of disaster. Our future is dire, and delusions are not helpful. Though note, we’re destined only for destruction if we don’t change ourselves.

Posted by Frank on May 01, 2010, 10:40 PM | #

Lest we forget the true strength of democracy: all of that energy that would have been channeled through competent action is wasted in the election process.

And after the election results are in, the losing sides accept the results and go home, otherwise serving and acknowledging those leaders. People learn to be happy instead of sticking with their ideals, and the world goes to Hell. Short-term sacrifices are required for long term happiness, and most people just won’t readily fight for anything they can stuff in their mouths or pimp on their rides. If the future will clearly deprive them of the food, they don’t care. That’s the future, and the future is “unknown” (can be ignored).

Posted by Frank on May 01, 2010, 10:42 PM | #

The same sell outs act differently in other systems I strongly suspect, though as democracy spreads like a plague we see fewer examples to learn from.

Posted by Robert Reis on May 02, 2010, 12:04 AM | #

http://irishsavant.blogspot.com/2010/05/its-all-too-beautiful.html

Posted by jamesUK on May 02, 2010, 12:27 AM | #

@Frank

I mean a main stream controlled 3rd party like the Liberal Democrats whose first leader was headed by MI6 agent Paddy Ashdown.

I think there was talk a couple of years ago of Mayor Bloomberg financing a third party.

A3P is never going to have a significant impact in US politics which has been tried before with America First Party. 

http://www.americafirstparty.org/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America_First_Party_(2002)

A more wise approach would have been to create A3P inspired movement/political faction inside the Republican Party.

Posted by PF on May 02, 2010, 02:51 AM | #

deracinated white intellectuals

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0caAJkChD8&feature=channel

for some reason, they break my heart. Each one feels like a new treachery.

“Et tu, brute?”, as we lay dying.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on May 02, 2010, 11:00 AM | #

From VFR yesterday, à propos of Tea Partier type white people and the proper way to “inject race” into the kinds of movements this type of white person creates:

Van Wijk writes:

”Heather Mac Donald wrote:  ‘The Arizona law is not about race; it’s not an attack on Latinos or legal immigrants.  It’s about one thing and one thing only:  making immigration enforcement a reality.’  She’s technically correct in that the Arizona law is not specifically about race.  The Immigration Issue, however, is certainly about race.  If non-white foreign aliens are establishing colonies on American soil, it ultimately does not matter whether they’re here legally or not.  The end result is the same:  conquest.  I suppose these baby-steps toward the truth are necessary for the time being, but anyone who thinks this is strictly a rule-of-law issue is fooling himself.”

LA [Lawrence Auster] replies:

What you say about the underlying racial nature of the issue is true, but needs to be qualified.  At present the racial aspect of this is all on the other side.  They are promoting a pro-browning-of-America, anti-white-America campaign.  The left’s anti-whiteness is shown by the fact that white people by simply being white people are called racists.  If they go to a Sarah Palin book signing, and all the people on line are white, that means that somehow they are excluding nonwhites and are racists.  If they go to a tea party rally, and they are mostly or all white, that means that they are racists.  The tea party has nothing to do with race, it has to do with power of government.  So white conservatives are called racists simply by virtue of being white conservatives.  To attack as racists people whose agenda (anti-Obamacare) is not racial at all, and has nothing to do with race, is about as naked and vicious a racist attack on people that I have seen.

By contrast, the white conservatives who support the Arizona law are not waging a racial campaign.  This is shown by the fact that they do not oppose our legal immigration which by itself is steadily turning America into a nonwhite country.  If white conservatives were racial, if they were remotely concerned about preserving a white America, they would be calling for a drastic reduction of nonwhite legal immigration, which they are not doing.  Further, if we tell these white conservatives that they should be racial and should care about protecting whiteness, that will turn many or most of them off, because they really do not care about race and think it’s wrong to do so.

Therefore, the place where race needs to be injected into the debate is not in persuading pro-Arizona white conservatives to be pro-white and anti-nonwhite, but in getting them to recognize and expose and denounce the anti-whiteness of the nonwhites and the left.

I’ve already given evidence of that anti-whiteness, and here is more.  The left’s anti whiteness is shown by the fact that the left and the nonwhites accuse Arizonans of vicious racism for passing a law on illegal immigration which is not a fraction as stern as Mexico’s laws on illegal and legal immigration, which, among other things, prohibit legal resident non-citizens from participating in politics.  Now THERE’S a country that believes in its sovereignty and identity (see Michelle Malkin’s article spelling out Mexico’s tough laws), while they don’t criticize Mexico at all.  This shows that the left does not believe the denunciations it pours on Arizona.  If they believed in them, they would be attacking Mexico’s laws much more loudly than they are attacking Arizona’s law.  So the fact is that the left uses a withering moral attack on the “racism” and “xenophobia” and “profiling” and “apartheid” of Arizona that they really do not believe in, in order to delegitimize and intimidate white conservatives, effectively prohibit conservatism, and create a new America ruled by the left and the nonwhites.  This is what the white conservatives need to recognize and say.  They don’t need to promote white racialism.  They need to expose the racist anti-whiteness of the left and the Hispanic activists.

[ http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/016361.html ]

Posted by Frank on May 02, 2010, 02:13 PM | #

jamesUK,

along with James Edwards apparently, I was a fairly early member of the AFP. It’s the first party I joined - I was never a Republican.

The AFP was always too libertarian. The A3P is the real thing: America’s BNP. Actually, I’m hopeful it’ll surpass the BNP with its incredible leaders. America’s just larger, and the A3P team is impressive.

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A faction with the GOP? It’s been tried and has failed too. I’m doubtful the strategy is the problem so much as the efforts put into the strategies, which is a cultural and spiritual failure.

If we had the motivation, we could run an A3P, a GOP faction, a white advocacy group, a mainstream anti-immigration group (e.g. numbersUSA) to rope in nonwhites and fringe whites, AND secessionist groups. If… we had the motivation.

The symptoms are political failures. The disease is something else (partly cultural).

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In the 1990s there was a conservative movement to get leaders into the GOP. Newt Gingrich was a[n evil] leader of this, and it was eaten and absorbed. The young, new leaders became young, new pigs at the trough. They couldn’t resist Rome’s gold.

Posted by Frank on May 02, 2010, 03:02 PM | #

When he sobers, I’m sure he’ll put a shirt on; but the picture at the right aside:

White liberal is raped in Haiti, blames whites for it (even to the point of being “grateful”)

Hilarious yes?

His dog is funny too.

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And he’s not an Israel worshiper either.

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GW, maybe send the guy a message that if he puts on a shirt you’ll add him to your list? Heh, or perhaps your manners are better than mine. I hate to see the guy embarrass himself though… I presume the picture is of him.

Posted by jamesUK on May 02, 2010, 05:09 PM | #

And he’s not an Israel worshiper either.

He sounds pretty pro-Jewish to me.

http://irishsavant.blogspot.com/2009/10/oleg-jews-and-rape-of-mother-russia.html

Posted by Fred Scrooby on May 02, 2010, 07:03 PM | #

This Irish Savant is a good blogger (ever notice how it’s always a good sign when “Blogger” has that “content warning” notice before you can log onto a blog?) — I’ve just “bookmarked” his site.  Browsing it a bit just now, I got a few laughs from this entry on Heidi Klum and Seal which I had clicked on at random:

http://irishsavant.blogspot.com/2010/03/heidi-klum-and-seal-to-separate.html .

(Spoiler alert:

No there’s been no announcement that the German bimbo and the Sub-Saharan are separating — the Irish Savant is just having a little joke.)

(I’d like to see him do an entry on Professor Ferdinand von Whatsisname, the race-replacer — that’d be good.)

Posted by Fred Scrooby on May 02, 2010, 07:13 PM | #

Here’s the guy (check out the comments thread of this log entry from a few years ago):

http://majorityrights.com/index.php/weblog/comments/diversity_comes_to_ulster/ .

Here’s his Wiki entry:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferdinand_von_Prondzynski .

Posted by Frank on May 02, 2010, 07:39 PM | #

jamesUK,

good eye. Maybe he’s still waking up / in denial, but he at least doesn’t serve the Israeli state.

Fred,

it sounds like that German was reconstructed well. He learned his lesson from WWII, and is now preaching to the Irish.

Attempts were made to reconstruct the South too after we lost, but we fought back. Germany’s rulers had a wee bit more power.

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Reg. immigrants in Ireland, here’s a revolutionary idea: toss them back out. They can leave just as easily as they entered. If no one will take them, pay someone to take them. Problem solved - Ireland can get back to its confused Catholic v. Protestant wars which line up rather well along ethnic lines but don’t allow anyone to admit that, it’s purely religious, yes…

Posted by Lurker on May 02, 2010, 08:49 PM | #

As we’re in the mood for promoting links I’ll say yet again how about a link to:

antiwhitemedia.blogspot.com

Posted by Lurker on May 02, 2010, 08:52 PM | #

Ireland can get back to its confused Catholic v. Protestant wars which line up rather well along ethnic lines but don’t allow anyone to admit that, it’s purely religious, yes…

I favour a more detailed repartition to solve that.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on May 02, 2010, 10:41 PM | #

While searching just now for something else entirely (I was looking for a link to an article on how the Negroes evolved from the pygmies) I happened across the following comment of mine, which I’ll post here because it is à propos of the little digression, above, on the Irish situation:

http://majorityrights.com/index.php/weblog/comments/the_death_of_a_multi_racialist/#c52252

The Irish are going to pay for their stupidity:  Ireland is going to be one of the first European countries, maybe THE first, to be effectively totally race-replaced.  As things now stand they’re not too far from the point of no return in that regard, and no voices whatsoever are being raised to question what’s going on or slow it down.  None.  Not one. 

You’d think they’d wake up. 

You’d think wrong.

What you’re seeing now, Euro races going willingly out of existence, has never been seen before.  Whenever it happened before — the Visigoths, the Ostrogoths, the Old Prussians, the Vandals, many others all now extinct — they complained, they worried, they struggled, they fought for lands, they killed, they wanted to survive.  You should read how the Old Prussians, a Baltic not a Germanic people, fought for survival against the Teutonic Knights who finally extinguished them.  They didn’t want to go out of existence as a people.  In these Euro nations of today who go out of existence willingly you’re witnessing a first, never before seen by human eyes.  And all the micks ... oops, excuse me ... all the Irish can do is whine about the English, how badly they were treated; meanwhile you can’t find an Irish face in Dublin for the ocean of Negroes, Chinamen, and assorted mystery meat that’s been brought in.  But rather than see the doom all around them they’ll whine about the English till Doomsday (which for them can’t be too far off now ...)

Posted by Frank on May 02, 2010, 10:50 PM | #

Lurker,

excellent site, and if a partition will bring peace I’m all for it. Someone ought to inform them that Cromwell died quiet a long time ago as well…

Posted by jamesUK on May 02, 2010, 11:32 PM | #

When did Curt Maynard die?

According to this he went postal and killed his ex-wife

http://newsfromthewest.blogspot.com/?zx=4f9452a4714dae8a

@Frank

I left a comment on the oleg, jews and rape of mother Russia article. Do you think it will get published?

Posted by Frank on May 03, 2010, 02:24 AM | #

That’s bizarre about Maynard. I’d corresponded with him briefly at another board… I don’t want to read about that though: that’s his business. The guy I met seemed nice enough though - shame how things turn out sometimes.

I’m sure that guy will publish your comment.

Posted by jamesUK on May 03, 2010, 06:21 PM | #

@Frank

I’m sure that guy will publish your comment.

Surprise! Surprise! Comment is still not published.

Posted by jamesUK on May 03, 2010, 09:55 PM | #

@Frank

Amazing news!

Jack Nicholson has joined the A3P party but I think his new promotional video is to direct.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxoEJck55OM

Posted by Fred Scrooby on May 04, 2010, 12:18 AM | #

Thoughts about the Tea Partiers posted today over at OccidentalDissent.com:

The New Niggers

May 3rd, 2010 by William Rome

The Tea Party phenomenon has been the most interesting political development in the last decade.  Interesting not so much for being an explicitly pro-white movement as some are hoping for — having attended the big Tea Party protest in DC this past Tax Day I can tell you they are not.  They are interesting because of the anti-white movement they’ve unleashed from the Left.  In the near-decade since I became politically conscious after 9/11 I haven’t seen anything so viciously racist.

No matter how hard Tea Party leaders and attendees claim they’re fighting for abstract ideals and not race, you would think from the Left’s reactions that Tea Party gatherings were mobs of goose-stepping, hood wearing Fascists with a swastika flag in one hand and a noose in the other.  No matter what Tea Partiers say or how many black Country singers they put on stage, to the Left the Tea Party movement is the reincarnation of the Klu Klux Klan.

This is going to continue for one simple reason:  the Tea Party movement is fighting on the Left’s terms.  Tea Partiers have bought into the great hypocritical lie of the Left.  Since the 1960’s the Left has preached the idea of colorblindness.  However the truth is since the 1960’s everything the Left does is predicated on race.  From Affirmative Action, illegal immigration, Multiculturalism, Hate Speech laws, Speech Codes on campuses, to the election of Barack Obama; every single thing the Left does is for the advancement of non-whites over that of whites.  If race is meaningless why was it so important for a black man to be elected president?  If race is meaningless why is the mixing of different races (diversity) such a great strength?  The problem is Tea Party attendees don’t see these obvious contradictions, and instead repeat the Left’s mantra that race is meaningless.

For the Tea Parties to be effective, indeed for all of white America to be effective, they need to stop arguing on the Left’s terms.  However it’s not a simple matter of being explicitly white as Jared Taylor suggests.  What is really going to change the condition of white America is how white Americans stand up for themselves explicitly.  The entire tone of white America (exemplified by the Tea Parties) has to change.  For this to happen we need to swallow our pride and admit what none of us want to hear:  whites are no longer in charge.  We are not losing our country, we have already lost it.

Starting with this admission it is imperative that we adopt the position of a colonized populace.  Numerically whites are still the majority for another few decades. However history shows being a numerical majority doesn’t mean you are in charge.  Both the Irish and the Indians under British rule proved this.  Like the Irish and Indians we are an oppressed people in our own country.  How can anyone argue this?  Our history and heroes are denigrated in schools; our traditional faith of Christianity is disrespected by the elite to the point where we can’t say “Merry Christmas” or display Nativity scenes in public; the popular media portrays us as ignorant and backward; colleges have entire courses dedicated to how evil we’ve been throughout history; an average of 37,460 white women are raped or sexually assaulted by black men every year compared to fewer than 10 black women by white men according to the Justice Department; more qualified whites are passed over for jobs given to non-whites in the name of Affirmative Action; political candidates never say at election time what they are going to do for the white community; our meetings are broken up like the 2010 American Renaissance conference; and worst of all we’re denounced for the mere act of saying we exist as a people and have a right to continue existing in this world.  White Americans are the first people in history who are told that the mere act of wanting to survive displays a secret desire to wipe out other peoples.  How can any rational person say white people are running things?

To the Leftist elite who rules over us we are nothing more than chattel slaves.  Votes and taxes are the cash cops we provide them.  This is why token GOP Chairman, Michael Steele, can state on national television that the Republican convention looks like a Nazi rally, or John McCain and George Bush can pander for the mythical “Hispanic vote,” they know whites will provide them with votes no matter what they do.  Just like chattel slaves, once whites no longer provide the cash crop of votes for the GOP they plan to import a new people who will, namely the Mexican immigrants we’re told are “natural Family Values Republicans.”  Tea Partiers strengthen this point in our ruler’s minds by holding up Establishment hacks such as Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin as their unofficial leaders.

It is unrealistic to expect the Tea Party movement to give birth to a new white tribe.  While Pat Buchanan is correct that ethnic and racial identities tend to be forged in the fires of persecution, white America doesn’t recognize itself as persecuted.  As long as white America continues to regurgitate the great Leftist lie that race doesn’t exist it will never mount a successful campaign against its oppressors.  If race isn’t real who cares that whites are being pushed aside?  Before any real opposition from white America can be created white Americans must adopt the mindset of the persecuted.  Every time Tea Party attendees use the slogan “we’re losing our country” they reveal they haven’t realized this.  A slogan such as that plays into the Left’s hands because they sound like a majority desperately struggling to maintain their control over the society; instead of sounding like the persecuted Indians fighting for their freedom they sound like the British fighting to hold onto imperial rule.

White Americans are a justifiably proud people.  Our ancestors carved from a wilderness the most powerful nation the world has ever known. However it is that pride that is hastening our downfall today.  We have to come to terms with the fact that we are no longer a free people.  We are a hated, persecuted, and oppressed people; non-whites are now gleefully in charge of the country our ancestors created and handed down to us.  Black New York Times columnist Charles M. Blow in his piece “Whose Country Is It?” wrote:  ”You may want ‘your country back,’ but you can’t have it.  That sound you hear is the relentless, irrepressible march of change.  Welcome to America:  The Remix.”

This is the language of a conquering elite over the original inhabitants.  It is the language of Imperialism.  Multiculturalism is nothing more than non-white Imperialism.  The tired old narrative of non-white minorities being lorded over by a bigoted white majority is archaic.  Today it is whites who are the oppressed populace despised for their race by their ethnocentric non-white masters.  We are the new niggers and if the Tea Parties are going to eventually forge a new white American tribe they’d better start acting like it.

[ http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2010/05/03/the-new-niggers/ ]