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Neither liberals nor Muslims understand ‘age of consent’
Of course, to a normal, healthy western mind the whole affair is firstly disgusting and secondly incomprehensible. Why would any father wish to make his pre-pubescent daughter marry a man twice her age? Why would a girl of just twelve develop such a deep respect for a culture with which she has had hardly any contact that she identifies with it more than with the culture in which she has grown up? On the other hand, why would the authorities pay any real attention to her own words about what she wishes: don’t they realise how easy manipulatable a girl of that age is, especially when its her father who is doing the manipulating? The answer to the first two questions is that Islamic society lacks most of the social niceties which adorn our own. Family bullying and pressuring teenagers (and even children) into making decsions before they are competent to make them is common enough in the Middle East, and are even given holy sanction by the Prophet’s own amorous escapades with the nine year old daughter of a follower. The answer to the last question is that the doctrine of complete personal autonomy has corrupted the thinking and sheer common-sense of our leadership classes. Because it is Molly’s “right” to self define, it logically follows that no objection can be made to the fact that she has chosen to become, essentially, a militantly hostile Muslim. Never mind that she obviously made this choice under considerable duress: the liberal elite, which screams bloody murder every time a product is advertised because this will allegedly force the public to buy something that it doesn’t want, is willing to treat this blatant example of emotional blackmail as an entirely freely entered choice. Who would have thought that the final fruits of all our liberties would be the right to be forced into a marriage? Posted by Alex Zeka on Saturday, September 2, 2006 at 03:25 PM in Islam & Islamification, Liberalism & the Left Comments:2
Posted by Svyatoslav Igorevich on September 02, 2006, 04:18 PM | # Mmm, so we read the Tanakh for our daily dose of genocide, and the Koran for our daily dose of rape then? Yes, Mohamet’s behavior is not a good sign for non-Mohameteans, seeing how he’s their Christ and all. 3
Posted by Al Ross on September 03, 2006, 03:28 AM | # Frankly I have no opinion on the matter of Arab (and by cultural extension,Muslim Trashcanstanis’) treatment of their female chattels. Any Muslim found guilty of any felony should be shipped out, ‘en famile’ as a first step. Later, there can be no escaping the mass-deportations of Muslims and the closing of all mosques. Goodbye to all that. 4
Posted by Alex Zeka on September 03, 2006, 05:58 AM | # Any Muslim found guilty of any felony should be shipped out, ‘en famile’ as a first step. Later, there can be no escaping the mass-deportations of Muslims and the closing of all mosques. Goodbye to all that. You’re in luck, Al. Judging by this story, our good friends are performing their own deportation with unseemly haste. Still, I can’t help feeling sorry for the girl (who is British born-and-bred) and even if you don’t, you should consider the legal precednt that is set by this: decisions made by the underaged whilst under Muslim pressure stand as freely chosen. 5
Posted by Retew on September 03, 2006, 06:17 AM | # A similar thing happened a few years ago when an Iraqi man turned up in the north of England with his child bride, also an Iraqi (she was 12). I think it was agreed that as long as they were just cuddling in bed and not having sex, the relationship should be allowed to stand. I agree with a lot of what’s been said, but the point I would make here is that a lot of our liberties in the West are the consequence of affluence. Societies that allow child brides are generally ones that do not take their continued survival for granted and have to encourage procreation between genetically strong individuals; young brides have the best chance of being fertile for a 6
Posted by Al Ross on September 03, 2006, 06:25 AM | # Alex, I was under the impression that the girl in question was of mixed race. If that is the case then your making mention of her being ‘British born and bred’ is surprising. 7
Posted by Svyatoslav Igorevich on September 03, 2006, 05:29 PM | # http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=deficient&x=36&y=14 Sorry for the non-sequitur, but if you want a good taste of “neutral P.O.V” the scroll down to this part:
Deficient:
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Posted by Andrew on September 02, 2006, 04:09 PM | #
Well if Mohammad was a prophet of some devine being, then it must have been Noem Chomsky, the Creator; Problem is the time line;That definitiona is a s close to factual in an Ideological world.
As if men didn’t already have the legal freedom to control and degrade women’s lives that they were granted further control to degrade women.
During a Jihad expedition (holy war) Mohammed’s men came to him very frustrated. As seen in the quote below:
12. (Al Hadis, Vol. 2, p. 686) Ibn Masud reported, “We were fighting with the Messenger of Allah, and our wives were not with us. We asked the Messenger of Allah, ‘Should we castrate ourselves?’ The Holy Prophet forbade us from that, and then he allowed us Muta (temporary) marriage. So, we all married wives for a fixed time (usually three days) for the dowry of a piece of cloth.”
Here Mohammed clearly tells the muslims to forget about the prostitutes they had purchased for a handful of dates back home and to have fun with these new victims who come even cheaper. They can be bought and violated for only a piece of cloth. Allah is truly merciful! Praise be to Allah!
In other civilized countries this is called rape—plain and simple. The mullahs happily approve this dastardly deed by quoting from the Koran. (Koran, 5:87): “...Make not unlawful the good things Allah hath made lawful for you.” Thus this heinous crime is still committed by muslims as attested by the Indo-Pak war, Arab-Israeli war, Iraq- Iran war, Iraq-Kuwait war, etc.
Sometimes Mohammed’s lust was so great that he conveniently forgot all the Koranic verses invented by him and did not have time to come up with an ammendment. One instance of this is noted when he married Safiya, a Jewish girl, after killing her father and her betrothed husband. He did not want to go through the long laborious procedure of finding a sponsor, paying the dowry, sending out invitations, or preparing a wedding feast. In fact, Mohammed skipped over the usual law of waiting until her next monthly was passed. He consummated his “marriage” to her on a sand dune with the blood and gore of Jihad still covering him, even Safiya’s father’s blood, no doubt. This is another case of rape, but for Mohammed it was just a beautiful marriage sanctioned by the All Perverted Allah!
It is sickening to read the Koran and the Hadiths and the low and inhuman opinion that this so called despicable Mohammed has on women.
13. (Al Hadis, Vol. 2. p. 638) Abdur Rahman- b-Salem reported that the Apostle of Allah said, “You should marry virgins, and verily they are sweeter in tongue, more prolific in wombs, and easily satisfied with little.”