Norman Lowell Book Launch

Posted by Fred Scrooby on July 22, 2009, 10:24 AM | #

Norman Lowell:  great brain, great heart, great man of our time!

May his great dream become reality!

Posted by Dude on July 22, 2009, 11:02 AM | #

Are the Maltese even white!???

Posted by Fred Scrooby on July 22, 2009, 11:32 AM | #

Makes no difference, Dude.  They’re Maltese, which means European.  According to Benjamin Franklin the Swedes weren’t white.  According to an old British saying, Frenchmen weren’t white:  “The wogs begin at Calais,” and all that.  According to some on our side, the Finns aren’t white.  According to some Finns, the Russians aren’t white.  According to northern Italians southern Italians aren’t white.  According to Prozium, I’m not white.  According to some German nationalists and Flemish nationalists I’ve spoken to, “white” is meaningless — you’re either a German nationalist, or a Polish nationalist, or a Lithuanian nationalist, or a Russian nationalist, and so on — but “white”?  “What’s that?”  It makes no difference what color you consider the Maltese, they’re part of Europe.  They look plenty white to me.

Posted by james on July 22, 2009, 11:01 PM | #

@Fred Scrooby

Exactly what I have been saying that ethnicity not race is the crucial factor.

Jews are white per percentage of there population the whitest people on Earth yet political movements, social trends,  domestic and foreign policy largely implemented by Jews and the media they control like foreign wars are what most people on this site and others complain about.

I used the example of Yugoslavia but there is another potential example in the near future I will probably comment in the future.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on July 22, 2009, 11:14 PM | #

”@Fred Scrooby
Exactly what I have been saying that ethnicity not race is the crucial factor.”  (—james)

I use the word “race” to refer to what you call race and to refer to what you call ethnicity.  (The context tells which way I mean it.)  I’m aware that some frown on that.  A certain guy very knowledgeable about genetics who used to post here used to object strongly to my doing that.  I’m aware of that.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on July 22, 2009, 11:23 PM | #

james, you need a second initial or something as part of your signature because there’s already a James who posts here, and putting a lower-case j for you and Bowery for him won’t always be remembered, for one thing.

Posted by Unhappy Serf on July 23, 2009, 01:24 PM | #

Posted by Fred Scrooby on July 22, 2009, 03:32 PM | #

According to an old British saying, Frenchmen weren’t white:  “The wogs begin at Calais,”

The expression was “wogs begin South and East of Calais”.  I haven’t heard it in decades, but I remember it well.  When I did hear it, it was said in a jokey humourous way, rather than with malice or contempt.

As this is a book review thread, I wonder if I may take it a bit off topic and ask if any of you have read Our New Unhappy Lords by A K Chesterton.  I read some excerpts on the web the other day and it sparked an interest. 

As A K Chesterton was apparently one of the founders of the National Front, I thought one or two of the regulars here may have read it, and if so wondered if they have any thoughts on it they would care to share?

Posted by jamesUK on July 23, 2009, 05:06 PM | #

We need a new Majority Rights interview with Lowell to commemorate his new book one of the few people to outline a frame work of how a pan European alliance would work.

The new EU countries and Britain want an EU that correlates with US interest which presumable bring in Turkey into the EU when energy deals are secure to bring in oil and gas into the empire via Turkey with the destruction of the Eurasian sphere and completion of Nabucco. 

@Fred Scrooby

I’ll use the moniker jamesUK.

Most European nationalists don’t think Russians are white.
Patton didn’t think Russians were white referring to them as decedents of Genghis Khan i.e. Mongols. 

It would be interesting to see what the general consensus what WN regards as white which doesn’t seem to be simply skin colour? 

I’ve mentioned before about Jorg Haider and his pro-Turkish views.

Posted by Captainchaos on July 23, 2009, 06:35 PM | #

Most European nationalists don’t think Russians are white.

LOL!  James, when I said that you should pull your head out of your ass I was serious.  As an American, I consistently see Whites of Slavic descent.  They are indistinguishable from other Northern Europeans to my eye.  Stop listening to the shitheads at Stormfront.

Patton didn’t think Russians were white referring to them as decedents of Genghis Khan i.e. Mongols.

Patton was given to hyperbole.  He also said the Jews were subhumans - when they obviously are not, yet they obviously are assholes.

It would be interesting to see what the general consensus what WN regards as white which doesn’t seem to be simply skin colour?

If you are of Indo-European descent you are White.  An albino nigger has White skin, he is not White.  Pull-your-head-out-of-your-ass!

I’ve mentioned before about Jorg Haider and his pro-Turkish views.

Haider also took it up the ass.  Who gives a shit what he thought.  Don’t worry about the Russians, James.  They have real Nazis over there who behead muds on video.  I think they can take care of themselves.

Posted by jamesUK on July 23, 2009, 09:32 PM | #

@Captainchaos

The CIA and western intelligence are working full swing now that Brezinski is president represented by his puppet Obama for full scale destabilisation of Eurasia with attacks on “The big Three” as outlined in his 97 book. Hence massive upsurge in activity in Russia’s South and China.

But what is the consensus of who you would consider being European?

Germans and Austrians consider Turkey to be European.

I would consider Armenians European or European oriantated.

Posted by Lurker on July 23, 2009, 09:54 PM | #

Germans and Austrians consider Turkey to be European.

Do they, what all of them?

Posted by Captainchaos on July 23, 2009, 10:13 PM | #

The CIA and western intelligence are working full swing now that Brezinski is president represented by his puppet Obama for full scale destabilisation of Eurasia with attacks on “The big Three” as outlined in his 97 book. Hence massive upsurge in activity in Russia’s South and China.

Jesus H. Fucking Christ you are thick.  So fucking what?!  Obama is not Brezinski’s puppet.  If Obama is anybody’s puppet he is beholden to the Jews.  You know, the Jews, who control the fucking media, finance, academia and the political process.  Do you suppose that is the policy White Nationalists would pursue?  White Nationalists want a regime change in America.  Do you get that, don’t you, you dumb shit?

But what is the consensus of who you would consider being European?

This genetic study forms my consensus for me:

http://www.plosgenetics.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pgen.0020215

And since you’re real dumb, I’ll make this real simple, look at the pretty picture from the study here:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f9/Rosenberg2007.png

Germans and Austrians consider Turkey to be European.

What evidence do you have to support that conclusion?

I would consider Armenians European or European oriantated.

I’m a Nordicist, meaning I put Northwestern Europeans first.  Armenians are way down my list of priorities.  You’re Scottish, right?  Why the fuck aren’t you a Nordicist?  Even Guessedworker is a Nordicist, though he would never come out and admit it.

Posted by Lurker on July 23, 2009, 10:16 PM | #

JamesUK - on the one hand we have:

Most European nationalists don’t think Russians are white

but we also have:

Germans and Austrians consider Turkey to be European.

So would most European nationalists include Germans and Austrians too? That would make them as bewildered as liberals in their inconsistency.

Thats not to say it couldnt be true but I’m not buying it.

Recently, talking to an ex-girlfriend (redheaded and very anglo/celtic in looks) she told me she had just discovered she had a mysterious and long dead Russian grandparent. If that had been a Turkish grandparent I suspect it would have been more noticeable. Of course thats just a single anecdote, but for myself I’m happy with Russians = white, Turks = not-European.

Also are we to take Patton’s or Haider’s views as the last and only word on the matter?

Posted by Weston on July 23, 2009, 10:30 PM | #

Even Guessedworker is a Nordicist, though he would never come out and admit it.

Really?  I’ve been reading this site for some years and haven’t gotten any indication that this is the case.  I always thought Guessedworker was an English Nationalist of sorts. 

James is Scottish.  Why the fuck would he be a Nordicist as opposed to a Scottish Nationalist?

As an Anglo-American I’ve long maintained that Wogs begin at Calais.  Nordicism has zero appeal.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on July 23, 2009, 11:02 PM | #

“As an Anglo-American I’ve long maintained that Wogs begin at Calais.  Nordicism has zero appeal.”  (—Weston)

In other words (if I understand):  from Calais north is OK; from Calais south is wogs.  The whole of France isn’t wogs in other words, so Nordicism isn’t true and therefore has zero appeal.  Is that it?  (I think I’m startin’ to understand this stuff.)

I happen to love stuff like this — for me, when folk go around saying stuff like “The wogs begin at Calais” it’s a sign of societal health (and conversely, when they start running down sayings like that it’s a sign of decay).  BUT ... I’d be a bit more comfortable in the present crisis if they shifted that to something like “The wogs begin at the Greek-Turkish border and the Mediterranean Sea.”

Posted by Fred Scrooby on July 23, 2009, 11:07 PM | #

That’s the far shore of the Mediterranean Sea of course!  What’s in the middle is part of us:  Corsica, Sardinia, the Balearic Islands, Sicily, Malta, the Greek Islands, Cyprus.  Here, let me correct that:

“The wogs begin at the Greek-Turkish border and the far shore of the Mediterranean Sea.”

That covers it.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on July 23, 2009, 11:15 PM | #

Don’t forget, when ordering books through Amazon.com, enter the Amazon site by clicking on the Amazon.com logo in the Vdare.com home page’s left-hand margin (start at the top of the Vdare.com home page and scroll down a little till you get to it):  Vdare.com will receive a commission on the sale at absolutely no additional cost to you.  I always order my books by going through Amazon.com’s Vdare link.

As mentioned in the log entry, the book at Amazon.com is here:

Imperium Europa: The Book that Changed the World by Norman Lowell

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw?url=search-alias=stripbooks&field;-keywords=Imperium+Europa+Norman+Lowell&x=15&y=21

Posted by Fred Scrooby on July 23, 2009, 11:17 PM | #

Here, excuse me:

http://www.amazon.com/Imperium-Europa-Book-Changed-World/dp/1615396012

Posted by Fred Scrooby on July 23, 2009, 11:40 PM | #

“What’s in the middle is part of us:  Corsica, Sardinia, the Balearic Islands, Sicily, Malta, the Greek Islands, Cyprus.”  (—my comment)

Someone e-mailed me to say I forgot Crete.  So I did. 

“What’s in the middle is part of us:  Corsica, Sardinia, the Balearic Islands, Sicily, Malta, the Greek Islands, Cyprus, Crete.”

Posted by Lurker on July 24, 2009, 12:30 AM | #

The whole “wogs begin at Calais” thing I’ve always assumed to be rather tongue in cheek. I never thought anyone saying it, or varients thereof, really believed it as a model of the world. A few steps removed from those edgy, transgressive whites who, to prove their non-PC credentials, make disparaging jokes about Australians and Canadians but somehow never quite get around to some other targets.

Posted by Desmond Jones on July 24, 2009, 01:53 AM | #

The whole of France isn’t wogs in other words, so Nordicism isn’t true and therefore has zero appeal.

The reference is to Euro phobia and English supremacy. Weston is delusional. A single viewing of Top Gear will dispel any illusions an Anglo-American may have that the English in any way consider AAs their equal.

Posted by Dasein on July 24, 2009, 04:26 AM | #

Germans and Austrians consider Turkey to be European.—JamesUK

Complete nonsense.  Germany and Austria are among the EU countries most opposed to Turkey’s joining.  JamesUK, have you spoken to any Germans or Austrians about this?  How did you come to this conclusion?

Posted by Dasein on July 24, 2009, 05:11 AM | #

James is Scottish.  Why the fuck would he be a Nordicist as opposed to a Scottish Nationalist?

As an Anglo-American I’ve long maintained that Wogs begin at Calais.  Nordicism has zero appeal.—Weston

What do you make of his choice of screen name?

Posted by White Preservationist on July 24, 2009, 05:26 AM | #

jamesuk:Most European nationalists don’t think Russians are white.  Patton didn’t think Russians were white referring to them as decedents of Genghis Khan i.e. Mongols.

Many Russians and Eastern European Slavs in general do in fact have quite a bit of recent Mongoloid admixture from all of the Asiatic invasions that have been launched in to Eastern Europe in the past few thousand years or even in more recent centuries.  Eastern-Euro Slavs are still majority Caucasoid of course, but because the Mongoloid mixture of them is quite recent it is still rather strongly expressed in them, unlike the Finns amongst whom the Asiatic mixture within them is much, much older and not as strongly expressed because they have become so thoroughly ‘Europeanized’ over many thousands of years.

However, there is also still a significant Northern European element in many parts of Russia and Eastern Europe.

Also, a lot of people don’t know that it were Asiatics or mostly-Asiatic soldiers in the Soviet Army who mostly beat back the German invasions in WWII more than the native mostly White Russian Slavs.  After about 1942-43 the Soviets increasingly used forced/near-slave conscripts from the Central Asian and almost totally Asiatic trans-Ural Soviet provinces…thus a very large number of the Soviet infantrymen fighting against the Germans after ‘42-43 were overwhelmingly of Asian ethnic descent rather than of Slavic Russian ethnic descent. A lot of people don’t realize how extensive and deep the Soviet use of Asiatic manpower went during WWII as they all imagine a bunch of stereotypical ‘Boris’ stocky Slav guys having gun or tank fights with a bunch of stereotypical tall lanky blond Germans. Not at all the case, obviously.  The German Wehrmacht were totally stunned at the number of Asiatics they were killing and/or capturing in their battles with the USSR - and those Asiatics just kept coming, and coming, and coming from the Soviet East…

Hitler’s last broadcast speech even heavily referenced this war between the ‘Asiatic East’ and the ‘White West’…the hardcore German National Socialists viewed WWII as a racial war between the West and the East, and in many senses they were correct – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRSnqLFPQ2A

Posted by jamesUK on July 24, 2009, 06:29 AM | #

Jesus H. Fucking Christ you are thick.  So fucking what?! Obama is not Brezinski’s puppet.  If Obama is anybody’s puppet he is beholden to the Jews.  You know, the Jews, who control the fucking media, finance, academia and the political process.  Do you suppose that is the policy White Nationalists would pursue?  White Nationalists want a regime change in America.  Do you get that, don’t you, you dumb shit?

I think you need to lift your dunce cap of.
Of course he is a Brezinski puppet his entire staff since 79 has been aiding Islamic militants across the world including Iran.
Brezinski was his mentor at University.
Nearly all of his staff if not all were involved in the genocide and destruction of the Serbs during the 90’s creating an international terrorists/organised crime network created by the US/EU and Middle Eastern vassal protected and pushed by the US. A supposed international terrorist organisation we are supposed to be fighting. 

http://sacru.com/

http://serbiandefenseleague.org/

Muslims accused of granting Bosnian citizenship to 1,300 mujahidin.

http://www.slobodan-milosevic.org/news/gs070809.htm

Kosovo Is The Drug Trafficking Capital of Europe.

http://www.slobodan-milosevic.org/news/rcmn070209.htm

Israeli arms shipments to terrorist training camps in Kosovo.

http://www.slobodan-milosevic.org/news/gj061209.htm

KSM granted Bosnian citizenship.

http://www.slobodan-milosevic.org/news/aki012009.htm

KSM lived in Bosnia

http://www.slobodan-milosevic.org/news/dani012709.htm

With Atta

http://www.slobodan-milosevic.org/news/bsptv012409.htm

So I guess it is just a coincidence that Brezinski and his clan have senior and prominent positions in government, media and foreign policy in Europe towards Russia and we should just ignore the terrorism, wars, colour revolutions, etc. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frw87_Fbc8g

Also mention he is the senior and premier geo-political strategist  

You mean these Jews?

http://www.rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/American_Committee_for_Peace_in_Chechnya

As I have said before maybe not on this site but the 9/11 hijackers were recruited to fight in Chechnya with various links to foreign intelligence until Mossad was monitoring these groups and individuals to pin the attack on them.

In 2003 even the main stream news reported that militants moved there base from Afghanistan to the Panski Gorge in Georgia where the US had a sizable military presence at the time impossible without there assistance.

So WAKE UP!

Posted by jamesUK on July 24, 2009, 07:07 AM | #

@Dasein

Gate of Vienna is a Zio rag.

They support the Chechens and other Caucasus militant groups, support Israeli, and say nothing about the Balkans. 

Might as well be run by AEI or the Jamestown foundation. 

Vienna during the 90’s and still today through front NGO’s was a senior front in supporting covert arms to Jihadists in the Balkans in Bosnia and Kosovo.

There only now opposed to the Turkey because part of the EU because of the bad media attention on the bogus Al Qaeda terror network and the War on Terror. 

I’ll also mention without a word of criticism or protest Vienna and there populace supported the independent state of Kosovo.

http://www.kosovothanksyou.com/

http://www.bmeia.gv.at/en/foreign-ministry/news/presseaussendungen/2008/plassnik-schreiben-ueber-anerkennung-des-kosovo-unterzeichnet.html

Posted by Dasein on July 24, 2009, 07:28 AM | #

JamesUK, Gates of Vienna did not conduct the poll, this group did.

You still haven’t properly defended this wild claim of yours:

Germans and Austrians consider Turkey to be European.

Posted by hw on July 24, 2009, 08:56 AM | #

Doesn’t anyone see the humor in subtitling a book The Book That Changed The World? is it really just me who’s laughing at the ridiculous presumption of egotists like Lowell and his little cheerleader, von Hoffmeister? calling Malta the “Sacred Island” and so on?

Weirdos, all of ye.

Posted by hw on July 24, 2009, 08:59 AM | #

“They are indistinguishable from other Northern Europeans to my eye.”

Surely not indistinguishable? no unique physiognomy ... ? I live in an area with many recent Uke-Russian immigrants and know them on sight. I go to Chicago and know a third-generation Pollack when I see one, too. How is it I can do this and you can’t, Cap’n. Surely Slavs and Nords are not exactly the same beings.

Posted by jamesUK on July 24, 2009, 09:07 AM | #

@Dasein

Why would Germany allow thousands of Turkish guest workers into the country then?

Germany hosts and sponsors these pan-Turkish nationalist organisations like the Uigher people in China.

Turkey, Austria and Germany have decade’s long good relations. 

Ernst Zundel interview with an Israeli journalist he makes reference and praise of Turkey and Turks.  I can’t remember the specific part you will have to go through the whole interview.

Posted by jamesUK on July 24, 2009, 09:25 AM | #

@Dasein

Forgot to post the Zundel link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVkp96Gm5tU

Posted by Dasein on July 24, 2009, 09:33 AM | #

JamesUK, not one of those things supports your claim.

Why would Germany allow thousands of Turkish guest workers into the country then?

For economic reasons, just like why American Whites brought over Negroes.  I’m just going to to just stop there.  Your other points are equally confused and worthless.  I think this is the wrong forum for you.

Posted by Lurker on July 24, 2009, 10:50 AM | #

James I think you might be confusing Germans/Austrians with the present elite of those countries. You could just as easily argue that the British favour muslim immigration because we now have 1.5 million of them living here.

Posted by Tucker on July 24, 2009, 11:02 AM | #

Off topic, but what’s this about MR contributor David Hamilton??

July 24th, 2009 - 1:25 pm § in Editor, Independent
Mister Fox
Former Journalist 51-year-old David Hamilton AKA ‘Mister Fox’ popular contributor to the Green Arrow blog has outed a teenage female nationalist after she rejected his attentions.

Who needs enemies with friends like these?

http://british-nationalist.org.uk/

Posted by jamesUK on July 24, 2009, 02:20 PM | #

CIA and Ukraine stirring up trouble in the Crimea preparing to do a Balkans on Orthodox Christians supporting Crimean Tatars?

http://en.fondsk.ru/article.php?id=2167

http://en.fondsk.ru/article.php?id=2143

Will Ukrainian nationalist’s team up with Muslim Tatars like Croats and Bosnian Muslims teamed up against the Serbs?

Crimean Tatars are on the list of groups supported by the CIA through NED.

Another persecuted Muslim minority scenario BOOOOOOOORING!

I bet you all of Europe will support the Crimean Tatars so much for white unity.

@Dasein

Maybe not Germany and Austria but this is in the context of post 9/11 media scare about Muslims after the false flag attacks in the US and Europe.

Before 9/11 like Haider Austria’s premier right wing nationalist candidate fully supported Turkey.

Interesting that the new East European are pro-Turkish.

Like it or not when the Nabucco pipeline connecting energy routes to Europe is in effect and EU and Turkeys economic and energy sphere is interconnected Turkey will have to be a member of the EU.

Posted by GenoType on July 24, 2009, 03:25 PM | #

Why would any white nation import thousands of slaves or non-white “guest workers”?

Because its gentile elite – evolving, racially atomized but ostensibly Europid – is united in its historical fear-hatred of the Europid underclass, desire to preserve status, avoidance of risk, conflation of money with genuine wealth, and in the pursuit of easy money at all costs except to that of the occasional member. For these reasons it will eagerly formulate alliances with jews and other non-Europid Caucasoids, Negroids, Mongoloids, Australoids, and assorted combinations of mystery meat. It will devise intra-racial alliances with the nation’s true Europid underclass only for the purpose of political convenience and physical survival. The positive effects of such alliances are limited and temporary. The loyalty of nominal Europids is flexible. Racial ambiguity and plausible deniability are watchwords. Nominal Europids will abandon and turn on the Europid underclass as convenience and survival demand. Ultimately, the genetic composition of the underclass and past historical relationships are irrelevant.

Class and individual behavioral histories are key to identifying the nominal Europid.

Posted by XLCR-(Q) on July 24, 2009, 08:47 PM | #

Why would any white nation import thousands of slaves or non-white “guest workers”?

Slaves and non-white “guest workers” are the fossil fuel that provide the energy for the Primary which supplies the Nominal whom acually perform the work needed to create wealth.

GT will understand.

Posted by Captainchaos on July 25, 2009, 03:36 AM | #

As an Anglo-American I’ve long maintained that Wogs begin at Calais.

If you are an “Anglo-American” that means you are of predominantly Northwestern European descent.

Nordicism has zero appeal.

Why the hell not?  Should the Japanese be genetically submerged by a deluge of Chinese, since they are all of them East Asian?  Why ought the Japanese not tout their special virtues, and wish to propagate said into the future, and the genetic basis thereof?  Correspondingly, why not too Northwestern Europeans?

I always thought Guessedworker was an English Nationalist of sorts.

Yeah, the sort who recognizes the English as a Northern European people, and mutedly exhorts Anglo-Americans (those of Northwestern European descent) to preserve themselves genetically and culturally as the extended phenotype of the English because that furthers his EGI.  Keeping the continental Krauts in their cages in the absence of their ability to be their better selves by becoming an English extended phenotype also furthers his EGI.  Get it?

Posted by Hendrik Oosthuizen on July 25, 2009, 03:48 AM | #

The turks are not europeans. The fuehrer’s last speech is all revealing ” Asiatic East against the white West”. No one seems to me heeding that maxim.  The nationalist socialist government in 1936 acknowledged and declared the Armenians to belong to the aryan race.

Posted by jamesUK on July 25, 2009, 10:54 AM | #

@Hendrik Oosthuizen

He was probably talking about the USSR.

Are you sure didn’t Turkey and Germany have good relations dating back to pre-WW1 and were allied with them during WW2?

I don’t know Turkeys role during WW2 but why did German have a majority of Turks over other people as guest workers over other people unless they had good relations.

Posted by Hendrik Oosthuizen on July 25, 2009, 05:37 PM | #

There were no turks livng , nor working in Germany during the two WW. In the first world war Germany allied herself to the bastard turks , expediency ,and paid dearly for it. Chose your allies carefully. Chosing the genocidal turkish race as allies was a Kaiserian blunder. The propaganda war blamed the Germans as having provided ” the brains and designs” for the turks to carry out the extermination and genocide of the Armenians.  After the war, the Judeo-American occupying forces induced and fooled the German puppet government to import foreign laborers to ” rebuit” Germany. The whole idea was to flood Germany with aliens and degenerate the teuton racial strain. Bringing turks into Germany was a catastrophe. There was sufficient workers from other European countries who also came, but eventually return to their countries , but the dastardly turks stayed and formed colonies inside Germany. There was no logical impulse, nor necessity, to open the doors to millions of a muslim Asiatics totally incompatible with the German race. Now ,Germany is an invaded and colonized land.  The import of turks in to Germany was a far greater disaster to Germany than the loss of the WW.

Posted by jamesUK on July 25, 2009, 06:07 PM | #

@Hendrik Oosthuizen

Yes I should have clarified post WW2 but why Turks over other people say Moroccans or other people.

Actually I would say that Britain lead the way for WW1 and WW2.

The young Turks that lead the Armenian genocide came from Britain which I believe was done to clear a passage for future oil pipeline at that time as part of a Rothschild controlled British Empire foreign policy when oil was discovered in Baku in the Caspian Basin.
The same is going on today against Russia since the break up of the USSR. 

Seeing Russia as an emerging rival power with expansion into Siberia they supported and did every thing they could to bring about Communism in Russia provoking proxy wars, economic warfare, international slander campaign against the Czar supporting, financing and equipping Marxist terrorist groups, etc. 
Then before WW2 they did everything they could to provoke war against Germany.

Yet nationalist praise the Rothschild British Empire.

Posted by Captainchaos on July 25, 2009, 08:03 PM | #

Just what are you advocating James?  Do think all the conspiracy-laden allegations you lodge against the elites who brought all this misery on common White folks was in the interest of those folks?  Why do you make the idiotic error of conflating the will of the elites with the will of the masses?  Do you suppose it is in the interest of White folks to be completely dispossessed of their nations, and eventually be killed and mongrelized out of existence by Third World immigrants?  If you will not stand with your own people in preventing that, yours is a sick mind.  That is the bottom line.

Posted by Lurker on July 25, 2009, 11:01 PM | #

Yet nationalist praise the Rothschild British Empire.

Maybe some do, though we don’t see much of that here. I don’t see how it follows that then becomes set in stone as a policy.

Im sure there are aspects of the Empire that nationalists can praise. How about the founding of America, Australia, Canada, NZ, SA, Rhodesia? One could argue for that.

But we are living right now with fallout of empire as regards Asia and Africa generally.

Posted by Constantin von Hoffmeister on July 28, 2009, 08:37 AM | #

Malta Today is lying. I NEVER posted on Stormfront! I do not even have an account there! As a matter of fact, I HATE Stormfront and would not be caught dead posting there!

http://www.maltatoday.com.mt/2009/07/26/t12.html

Agenda Bookstore hosts far-rightist for book signing

Matthew Vella

Agenda Bookstore last week granted floor-space to far-rightist Norman Lowell, for the book-signing event of his reprinted book ‘Imperium Europa’.
Carrying the boisterous tagline ‘The Book that Changed the World’, the book is described as a “radical response to the all important questions of the survival of the Europid race – that race of biological aristocrats that gave the world everything.”
Ignoring a direct question on why his retail chain had hosted Lowell for a book-signing, chief executive Malcolm Miller said his company “encouraged freedom of expression”.
“Agenda Bookshop carries thousands of books with a huge diversity of opinion. We do not act as censors, and if anything always encourage freedom of expression. It is up to the reader to decide what they want to read and not our job to obstruct the availability of any material.”
Miller did not reply as to what policy Agenda operates when it grants publicity to authors such as Lowell, whose anti-immigrant sentiment had led to a conviction for incitement to racial hatred.
Lowell was convicted on three charges of incitement, and was handed down a two-year sentence, suspended for four years.
Writing in his internet forum on his book, Lowell says “a great destiny” awaits Malta. “Our island… will become a beacon for all Europids; [a] Mecca of the White Man.”
Lowell’s book also includes forewords by right-wingers Tomislav Sunic and Constantin von Hoffmeister. Tomislav Sunic is an anti-Semitic author who collaborates with the racist Council of Conservative Citizens as well as the American Renaissance group. Von Hoffmeister is also a contributor to American neo-Nazi e-publication Stormfront.

Posted by Guessedworker on July 28, 2009, 10:53 AM | #

Constantin: Malta Today is lying

And it has to.  As we saw in the media’s obviously concerted and programmatic attacks on the BNP in the run up to the European Parliament elections, lying is the Establishment’s preferred and, quite possibly, only tactic.

This was the latest little deception:

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/90963/BNP-shut-door-on-white-van-man/

For Malta Today to blithely describe Tom Sunic as “an anti-Semitic author” is beyond contempt.  Obviously, no one at MT has read his books.  They do not know anything about the man or his position on the Jewish Question, but say what they want anyway.  Anything to smear Norman Lowell.

This is a position of complete moral weakness.  The only reason it works today is the commercial monopoly these people enjoy.

Posted by DS on July 28, 2009, 04:59 PM | #

+1

>That’s the far shore of the Mediterranean Sea of course!  What’s in the middle is part of us:  Corsica, >Sardinia, the Balearic Islands, Sicily, Malta, the Greek Islands, Cyprus.  Here, let me correct that:
>
>“The wogs begin at the Greek-Turkish border and the far shore of the Mediterranean Sea.”
>
>That covers it.

Posted by Captainchaos on July 28, 2009, 07:04 PM | #

For Malta Today to blithely describe Tom Sunic as “an anti-Semitic author” is beyond contempt.

So let me get this straight, Sunic doesn’t believe the Jews have an evolved genetic compulsion to subvert to dominate their host societies?  If he does believe that, and he is pro-European, it is hard to believe he is not anti-Jewish.

Posted by Guessedworker on July 28, 2009, 07:23 PM | #

CC,

There is nothing to “get straight”.  The Sunic I know would find the question “Are you anti-Semitic?” simplistic and dishonest.  Far from proffering a reply, he would most likely respond with a battery of enquiries to force his interlocutor to think more critically.  He wouldn’t play the game.  And you know what?  Any of us worth our salt would do the same.

Posted by Captainchaos on July 28, 2009, 08:10 PM | #

respond with a battery of enquiries to force his interlocutor to think more critically.

To at least blunt the thrust of the interlocutor as a Jewish extended phenotype within the milieu of the European’s evolved morality, if not to reverse the interlocutor’s impetus so as to be consistent with the interlocutor’s European ethnic genetic interests.

He wouldn’t play the game.

If Mr. S believes X (European genetic continuity) is his ultimate interest, and believes Y (the Jews) stands intransigently, formidably opposed to his realizing X, will then Mr. S not most likely be opposed to Y, or “anti” Y, if he truly believes X is his ultimate interest?  Most likely he will.  It is just that the rules of the game - the European’s evolved morality - and playing by those rules, may make the bluntly stated truth less than prudent.

Posted by Captainchaos on July 28, 2009, 08:44 PM | #

Further, a philosophy which is to “bridge the empirical gap” of the objectively verifiable ultimate interest of genetic continuity with the European’s evolved morality - which is itself a part of his genetic constitution for which he seeks continuity as his ultimate interest - must take into account this esoteric/exoteric way of understanding, processing and responding - as demonstrated above.  It must do what needs to be done, inspire what is needed to be inspired, from lemming to luminary, from esoteric to exoteric, in perhaps something similar to Allan Bloom’s description of the Platonic “ladder of love.”  Even Martin Heidegger, who conducted dalliances with Jewesses, and sought to protect select Jews, may have failed the test of putting nothing higher than his ultimate interest.

Posted by Captainchaos on July 28, 2009, 09:34 PM | #

It is said that struggle is not the essence of life, or that life is not defined by struggle, but by adaptation, or what is adaptive.  But what if struggle to further one’s ethnic genetic interests is adaptive, or what is, everything else being equal, most adaptive?  Wouldn’t the thing to do then be to nurture the strength to engage in struggle to further one’s EGI?  What conditions are optimal to maximizing strength for said struggle?  To what degree ought Mein Kampf be perused as a serious philosophical text given the above?  Which man was more fully attuned to the ultimate interest of genetic continuity, Heidegger or Hitler?  To what degree does the thrust of a question, the implicit or explicit object of enquiry after which it seeks to lay bare, color the results of the conclusions arrived at?  Heidegger may have been smarter than Hitler, but was he asking the right questions?  Hitler was dumber that Heidegger, were his alleged ‘smart’ instincts any substitute for Heidegger’s enquiry into the nature of being?  Was Hitler better at being, ‘healthily’, than Heidegger was at investigating the matter?  If so, shouldn’t we listen first to Hitler?

Posted by Fred Scrooby on July 28, 2009, 09:58 PM | #

”+1”  (—DS)

I hope DS (David Stennett) doesn’t think I’m agreeing with him.  I’m not.

Posted by White Preservationist on July 29, 2009, 01:19 AM | #

Re:Hendrik Oosthuizen - “After the war, the Judeo-American occupying forces induced and fooled the German puppet government to import foreign laborers to “ rebuit” Germany. The whole idea was to flood Germany with aliens and degenerate the teuton racial strain. Bringing turks into Germany was a catastrophe. There was sufficient workers from other European countries who also came, but eventually return to their countries , but the dastardly turks stayed and formed colonies inside Germany. There was no logical impulse, nor necessity, to open the doors to millions of a muslim Asiatics totally incompatible with the German race. Now ,Germany is an invaded and colonized land.  The import of turks in to Germany was a far greater disaster to Germany than the loss of the WW.”

Jewish attempts to subvert and ultimately destroy healthy White gene pools through race-mixing and ‘mongrelization’ so that Jewry can eventually triumph in a Darwinistic sense over a degenerate racially-mixed/mongrelized White population was indeed realized many decades ago; for instance:

In foreign policy he tries to bring nations into a state of unrest, to divert them from their true interests, and to plunge them into reciprocal wars and in this way gradually rise to mastery over them with the help of the power of money and propaganda.

His ultimate goal is the denationalization, the promiscuous bastardization of other peoples, the lowering of the racial level of the highest peoples as well as the domination of this racial mish-mash through the extirpation of the folkish intelligentsia and its replacement by the members of his own people.

The end of the Jewish world struggle therefore will always be a bloody Bolshevization. In truth this means the destruction of all the intellectual upper classes linked to their peoples so that he can rise to become the master of a mankind become leaderless.

Stupidity, cowardice and baseness, therefore, play into his hands. In bastards he secures for himself the first openings for the penetration of an alien nation.

Hence the result of Jewish domination is always the ruin of all culture and finally the madness of the Jew himself. For he is a parasite of nations and his victory signifies his own end as much as the death of his victim. - http://www1.yadvashem.org/about_holocaust/documents/part1/doc5.html

Posted by a Finn on July 29, 2009, 01:25 AM | #

White preservationist: “... unlike the Finns amongst whom the Asiatic mixture within them is much, much older and not as strongly expressed ...”

- Could you present your evidence for this claim of Asiatic mixture.

Posted by White Preservationist on July 29, 2009, 01:48 AM | #

hw:“Doesn’t anyone see the humor in subtitling a book The Book That Changed The World? is it really just me who’s laughing at the ridiculous presumption of egotists like Lowell and his little cheerleader, von Hoffmeister? calling Malta the “Sacred Island” and so on?”

I agree with you that some of Lowell’s rhetoric is a bit bombastic, but I also fully agree with the thrust of Lowell’s beliefs, that is: preserving all ethnic branches of the wider White race as unique strains of White humanity.

In terms of Malta being a “sacred island,” there is definitely something to say to that effect; I am a Cosmobiologist who is also deeply interested in ancient archaeoastronomy, and the “sacred island” of Malta has some of the most ancient archaeoastronomical sites in all the entire world which are also among the oldest religious sites on Earth (not just in Europe).

The archaeoastronomical stuff they’ve found there on Malta is even older than Stonehenge and many other ancient archaeoastronomical sites.  Indeed, several sources state that they are the oldest free-standing structures on Earth.

In a related sense, Lowell is also apparently an adherent of the religion of Cosmotheism (someone correct me if I’m wrong), and that surely ties in to all of his talk about the “sacred island” of Malta.

Posted by White Preservationist on July 29, 2009, 02:14 AM | #

a Finn - “Could you present your evidence for this claim of Asiatic mixture.”

Wikipedia offers a brief summation of Finnish genetics (see below), which show some Asiatic admixture in Finnish populations (mostly from Northern Central Asia/Siberia); note that this ‘recent’ Asiatic admixture is about 15,000 years old.  I’m not claiming that Finns aren’t White/European, only that they have some ancient Asiatic admixture that is still clearly evident in their genetic line(s).  As I stated above, other Eastern European Slavic populations have a bit of Asiatic admixture that is much more recent because of Mongoloid invasions in only the past few millenia or centuries that have occurred there (Genghis Khan, for example).

For the paternal and maternal genetic lineages of Finnish people and other peoples, see, e.g., the National Geographic Genographic Project and the Suomi DNA-projekti. In essence, the types of mtDNA markers of Finnish people do not differ from those of other European ethnicities.[38] For example, Haplogroup U5 is estimated to be the oldest mtDNA haplogroup in Europe and is found in the whole of Europe at a low frequency, but seems to be found in significantly higher levels among Finns, Estonians and the Sami.[39] Of modern nationalities, Finns are closest to Cro-Magnons in terms of anthropological measurements.[40]

With regard to the Y-chromosome, the most common haplogroups of the Finns are N3 (58%), I (29%), R1a (7.5%) and R1b (3.5%).[41] Haplogroupe N3, which is found only in a few countries in Europe (Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Sweden and Russia), is a subgroup of the haplogroup N (Y-DNA) distributed across northern Eurasia and estimated in a recent study to be 10,000–20,000 years old and suggested to have entered Europe about 12,000–14,000 years ago from Asia.[42]

According to an earlier study conducted by four scientists, including Cavalli-Sforza LL:

Principal coordinate analysis shows that Lapps/Sami are almost exactly intermediate between people located geographically near the Ural mountains and speaking Uralic languages, and central and northern Europeans. Hungarians and Finns are definitely closer to Europeans. An analysis of genetic admixture between Uralic and European ancestors shows that Lapps/Sami are slightly more than 50% European, Hungarians are 87% European, and Finns are 90% European [WP:thus they’re around 10% Asiatic]. There is basic agreement between these conclusions and historical data on Hungary. Less is known about Finns and very little about Lapps/Sami.[43]

According to recent autosomal (genomewide, 10,000 markers instead of few looked at Y-DNA and MtDNA-studies) give distinct picture of Finnish genes. Finns are a genetic isolate. It could be said that all other Europeans have Finnish genes but Finns don’t have all the genes found in other Europeans. Finns show very little if any Mediterranean and African genes but on the other hand almost 10% Finnish genes seem to be shared with some Siberian populations. Nevertheless more than 80% of Finnish genes are from single ancient North-European population, while most Europeans are a mixture of 3 or more principal components.[44] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finns#Genetics

Posted by White Preservationist on July 29, 2009, 02:24 AM | #

Me:“note that this ‘recent’ Asiatic admixture [in Finns] is about 15,000 years old.”

Also note that approx. 15,000 years is still comparatively ‘recent’ is relation to the over 35,000 year old musical instrument and ‘Venus’ figurine archaeologists have recently found in what is now modern-day Germany, both of which were presumably made by very, very ancient Whites/Europeans.

Posted by a Finn on July 29, 2009, 03:03 AM | #

“Finns are a genetic isolate. It could be said that all other Europeans have Finnish genes but Finns don’t have all the genes found in other Europeans. Finns show very little if any Mediterranean and African genes but on the other hand almost 10% Finnish genes seem to be shared with some Siberian populations.”

- It has been found that the esternmost Finno-Ugrics in Siberia have 10% European ancestry and nearer Finno-Ugrics more. Sharing genes in itself doesn’t mean anything, the direction of gene flow does. Do the European-Americans have African ancestry because they share 20% genes with African-Americans? Do you adduce further evidence?

Posted by Guessedworker on July 29, 2009, 07:34 AM | #

CC,

On strength in the National Socialist paradigm, from an evolutionary perspective the only useful part of this idea is fitness.  The rest, which is so given to fetishism of a violence that is always potential and sometimes manifest, must be stripped away.  Conflict is frequently dysgenic, and it’s really no loss to admit that we don’t need a return to the 20th Century in that respect.

On the struggle to further one’s EGI, again it is necessary to discriminate between Man and the warrior.  The warrior must live in Man for the protection of the family and the tribe, but never become him, never define his humanity.  The grey area here is the furtherance of EGI by aggression on weaker tribes, which is obviously a very large part of human history.  Salter, however, proposes universal nationalism as “optimally adaptive for the majority of ethnies.”

Neither Hitler nor Heidegger knew about ethnic genetic interest.  But you are really asking whether instinct trumps intellect in pursuing it.  Perhaps the answer is inevitably yes, up to the point where the mechanism is revealed to intellect.  But at that point intellect and instinct may operate in tandem.  That is an advantage the intellectual possesses over the merely instinctive.