Postmodernism and the New Right.

Posted by Stanley on June 26, 2007, 12:42 AM | #

“And one could add, that in missing a common culture, we lose a powerful weapon in challenging the egalitarian dogma through a visual display of unity and difference.”

Of course, Americans of indigenous European origins have a common culture. It includes many European national origin cultures plus many European ethnic cultures plus (in North America) up to 400 years of shared American continental experience in architecture, streets, environment, religions, water, war, peace, etc. The notion that we lack a common culture is astounding.

No one on this web site seems to notice that post-modern multi-culturalism itself provides us a place to meet and discuss our issues from the mildest to the wildest. It is a mystery to us at Resisting Defamation why most of us decline to join the cacaphony of the multi-culturalists and carve an organizing place for outselves in that context. Opposing the ideology of multi-culturalism does not mean we cannot organize under its rubric.

The real problem we face is the problem of the crazed leader who enthrones himself or herself as king or queen of the white people. The long-term president of an issues forum single-handedly destroyed that San Francisco Bay organization that had interviewed candidates for mayor, city council, and sheriff. He sent a letter to the US Attorney General announcing that he was the leader of all white people in North California, and then slipped into a leadership fetish which drove all but three or four participants away.

Somehow the concept of organizing within the multi-cultural rule set is rejected, but it is there anytime we want to come together to accomplish our goals.

Posted by Bill on June 26, 2007, 05:07 AM | #

Ever since I’ve been lurking here (12 months?) I have scratched my head as to why there has not been a category (all categories) for Postmodernism, surely this whole blog is about the fall-out of this 21st. century philosophy which has morphed into Neoliberalism (Cultural Marxism, Political Correctness, End of Western civilisation)

I dunno, maybe I’m missing something.

As an aside, I looked up (in the all categories) what has been discussed about Peak Oil, Gobsmacked comes to mind - nothing, zilch, zero, bugger all, amazing.  If anything is going to throw a spanner in the works of what this blog is all about, it is Peak Oil (and Global Warming, plus wars of diminishing resources, plus population overshoot) hmmm,  there-again, maybe I’m missing something else?

Posted by Scimitar on June 26, 2007, 06:37 AM | #

Unlike most American racialists that concentrate on genes, genetics, crime, etc., Sunic is concerned that unlike Europe, we have little culture to bring us together: “The absence of a common cultural identity among white Americans seems to be the fundamental weakness of postmodern American nationalists, racialists and conservatives who, while not hiding their hostility to Jews, are unable to muster up common cultural and national energy for establishing their similar cultural and national uniqueness. Harping only on genetic determinism, as many eugenicists and modern American racialists do, in order to promote an abstract white man identity is self-defeating.” And one could add, that in missing a common culture, we lose a powerful weapon in challenging the egalitarian dogma through a visual display of unity and difference.

Sunic’s argument that white Americans lack a common culture is unpersuasive. Pat Buchanan, an Irish-American Catholic, and Mark Krikorian, an Armenian-American, are two of the loudest voices for immigration restriction in the United States. White America doesn’t resemble Yugoslavia, Canada, Czechoslovakia, or Belgium. The old white ethnics were assimilated long ago and have intermarried over the past half century. The old regional differences have largely washed away: Southern and Northern racial attitudes have converged significantly.

It would be more accurate to say that white Americans share an extremely thin common culture based largely upon the English language, middle class values, and their commitment to common political principles. Culturally speaking, White America has probably never been so homogeneous. Even the notoriously ethnocentric Jews are being broken down by the cultural acid of America’s suburbs. Every year we become more boringly bourgeois. American culture is pop culture: American Idol, The Real World, Hollywood movies, etc. It is also highly standardized: every major city has the same McMansions, Big Box stores, fry pits, shopping malls, parking lot deserts, and so forth.

Historically speaking, White America’s ethnic heterogeneity has encouraged racialism. In the absence of other types of sameness, “whiteness” became a useful cultural focal point, especially when contrasted with a non-white “Other” like Negro slaves or the indigenous Indians. In contrast, Europeans never developed this peculiarly American sense of racial identity. They didn’t have any need for it. This also goes a long way towards explaining why class conflict never took on virulence in North America that it did in Europe. The Australians and Boers developed similar traditions of racial nationalism because they faced similar challenges.

Posted by Kievsky on June 26, 2007, 09:22 AM | #

I agree completely with Stanley.  We should organized under the rubric of multiculturalism, and I believe that the organization European Americans United at www.europeanamericansunited.com is doing just that.

EAU has immunized itself from someone declaring himself or herself as “king of all white people” by setting itself up on a voting basis.  See their Constitution.

Posted by Søren Renner on June 26, 2007, 09:38 AM | #

A Message For Bill

Welcome to Majority Rights. You are right about peak oil / olduvai / overshoot being important, and also right that these issues have been radically underdiscussed at Majority Rights. That will change. That is changing, thanks in part to you. Welcome aboard.

Posted by anon on June 26, 2007, 12:16 PM | #

Scimitar, many Australians considered themselves British even as recently as WW2 and enlisted en masse. Its not the same as American white nationalism.

I don’t think its fair to say Americans lack a common culture, but in the past each state had a stronger and more distinctive identity that has been weakened by federalisation of more and more power. And now globalisation.

Soren, I don’t think Peek Oil or Global warming etc are in any way important, and are infact a distraction. They are just marxist bullshit, I can’t believe WN people take them so seriously.
http://www.futurepundit.com/
Read that, if you haven’t already, the latest post was
” Limited Hydrocarbons Mean Little Global Warming?”, “the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) models for future climate change assume fossil fuels supplies available to raise atmospheric CO2 which overstate future hydrocarbon burning by a factor of 3 or 4 or more.”

Whether thats true or not I don’t know, but I do know we already have the tech for a nuclear electric economy.
Peek oil isn’t going to mean jackshit.

Posted by D.S. on June 26, 2007, 02:56 PM | #

If you call soccer moms bumping negro beats in their mini-vans and then coming home to drone on the tube to “Desperate Housewives” while dad does 14 hours a day at work, only to come home and put his feet up to watch the (now cancelled) Chapelle Show and then checking his E-Trade account and 401(k) earnings before doing the same routine 5 times a day, then Kulture you have.  This is the majority activity of WHITE America, hardly a communal-binding activity.

You are all living in Post-American America.  America did at one time exist (from a cultural, not civilization, stand-point—vide Spengler), but it was wiped out more than 100 years ago.  The only thing left is what Constantin von Hoffmeister and myself (and a few others) like to call “Secret Amerika”—which exists in small groupings all across the nation.

Otherwise, Sunic hits the nail on its head, good and hard.

Posted by PF on June 26, 2007, 04:53 PM | #

I smell goat on this man. His book just summarizes the last five years of heretical discussion- unless Nuenke left out the insights, which I doubt. Maybe Larry Auster and everyone else who ever wrote a creative thought in a dissident webblog should say to Sunic: You’re welcome!

Posted by Wunderhund on June 26, 2007, 07:42 PM | #

White Americans formed the first Pan-European grouping of white people.
The melting pot was the assimilation of varied Europeans into a new people;  the Americans.  We actually succeeded in creating the first true Pan-European identity for a while.

But then the universalists got hold of the levers of communications, media and power and have pushed their agenda since.  The American identity has devolved into today’s sad caricature, as D.S. notes.

A true Pan-European identity requires that white Americans value their roots in Europe again.  The Europeans can help us with this.  We can help the Europeans in overcoming their long history of in-fighting. 

Instead of identifying as ‘global citizens’ we should focus on what it means to be part of a greater Pan-European folk that is spread out over the globe.

Posted by reader on June 26, 2007, 08:37 PM | #

The melting pot was the assimilation of varied Europeans into a new people; the Americans.

No. “The Melting Pot” is Jewish propaganda which has no connection to the real American identity.

Posted by a Finn on June 26, 2007, 10:59 PM | #

I see it this way: As long as core groups have good permanent genetic-cultural basis, any method that is useful in particular situation or long process in mainstream politics can be used; concentrating e.g. on money, culture, morality, efficiency, entertainment, humor, law, way of organization, genes, immigration, art, city planning etc. or any combination of these.

Posted by Retew on June 28, 2007, 09:59 AM | #

anon wrote;

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Soren, I don’t think Peek Oil or Global warming etc are in any way important, and are infact a distraction. They are just marxist bullshit, I can’t believe WN people take them so seriously.
http://www.futurepundit.com/

and

Peek oil isn’t going to mean jackshit.

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The site you quoted didn’t say that peak oil was “bullshit”, just that the Hubbard, linear model on which its forecasts were made was flawed and resulted in overly pessimistic predictions as to when oil production would peak and thereon decline., His claim is that it’s probably 20 years away.

In which case it would still be worth taking seriously in my view. Bear in mind too that no oil company would dare announce an imminent peak in its production for fear of sparking a collapse in its share price.

Posted by danielj on June 28, 2007, 12:44 PM | #

There is certainly plenty of other industries devoting lots of capital into finding alternatives whether or not there even is such a thing as “peak oil”.

Besides, we should all be trying to move off the grid anyway.

Science and technology (in their current manifestation) have failed us. Hopefully there is such a thing as peak oil and America is purged after the race war that follows the collapse resulting from the loss of our primary energy source.

Posted by Bill on June 28, 2007, 01:08 PM | #

Random Thoughts

I haven’t a clue what is causing Global Warming.  Do I believe in such a thing? (What’s in a name?)  Yes I do,  I’ve lived long enough on this mortal coil to know that something is up with our weather.  What form it will take and how long it will take no-one seems to know, one thing’s for sure it will effect the ‘Replacement Programme’ to some degree - Let’s just say for now it’s an unknown quantity - but a definite runner.  (I hear there’s a water shortage in OZ - or is that Commie bullshit?)

I convinced myself of depleting resources way back in the early ‘80’s, I’d never heard of the term Peak Oil, no-one was talking about it (as far as I know) but I could clearly see our energy resources would deplete over time, that time is here or hereabouts, the concept of peak anything is not difficult to grasp in a world of finite resources, when you think about it, it’s not exactly rocket science.

Why do you think the US is in Iraq and gunning for Iran, it is all part of the big picture.

Why are ever increasing square miles of wheat growing country being diverted from food crops to ethanol?  Thereby increasing the price of staple foodstuffs, I understand the world’s wheat stocks are falling to an all time low.  Die off comes to mind.

What’s the chances of a full blown nuclear clash in the ME?  There’s some big hitters out there who are more than disinterested bystanders.  Any of these could affect what you are discussing here.

As I see it, one way or another, Western civilisation is taking a battering, I don’t think it will survive this century in any recogniseable form that we know it.

My tea is ready, gotta go.

Posted by anon on June 28, 2007, 05:20 PM | #

Well sorry if my language wasn’t clear, I do think the Oil will run out, and at some point in the near future we will experience ‘Peak Oil’ where by the increasing demand wont be satisfied by the dwindling supply.
But what I meant was the Peak Oil doom-monger theory that without oil the world will step backwards 100 or 200 hundred years and there will be serious economic problems is not happening, its nonsense, we already have the technology to live without oil as fuel.

Posted by Red Baron on June 28, 2007, 07:04 PM | #

What’s the point of saving the planet if it is populated by Blacks, Mexicans and other scum?

Lets realize the foremost problem confronting the environment is the non-white. Just look what they’ve done to the geographic regions they inhabit.

Does deforestation ring a bell?

Posted by danielj on June 28, 2007, 07:08 PM | #

Lets realize the foremost problem confronting the environment is the non-white. Just look what they’ve done to the geographic regions they inhabit.

Does deforestation ring a bell?

To raise McDonalds beef? Or Soy for American Lattes?

Posted by Retew on June 29, 2007, 04:09 AM | #

Anon wrote;

QUOTE

Well sorry if my language wasn’t clear, I do think the Oil will run out, and at some point in the near future we will experience ‘Peak Oil’ where by the increasing demand wont be satisfied by the dwindling supply.
But what I meant was the Peak Oil doom-monger theory that without oil the world will step backwards 100 or 200 hundred years and there will be serious economic problems is not happening, its nonsense, we already have the technology to live without oil as fuel.

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Indeed, but our plastics, pharmaceutical and agricultural industries are also oil based, it isn’t just about transport.

Michael Ventura has written a thoughtful series of articles on what
he believes is likely to happen once we enter the era of oil scarcity, which he believes is imminent. They’re worth a read if you’ve got the time, but if not, one good thing he expects to happen is that trains will (and should anyway IMO) make a comeback in the US;

http://www.austinchronicle.com/gyrobase/Issue/column?oid=oid:293979

http://www.austinchronicle.com/gyrobase/Issue/column?oid=oid:299694

http://www.austinchronicle.com/gyrobase/Issue/column?oid=oid:303781

http://www.austinchronicle.com/gyrobase/Issue/column?oid=oid:309074

Posted by D.S., on June 29, 2007, 01:12 PM | #

reader wrote:

“The melting pot was the assimilation of varied Europeans into a new people; the Americans.

No. ”The Melting Pot” is Jewish propaganda which has no connection to the real American identity.”

But, it’s what happened with American whites long before there were any number of Jews and the concept of mass-media was developed.  I think you should read Sunic’s book to get a better understanding of the forces at work.  No doubt, Jews and Judaism played a minor role, but Christianity has been far more destructive.

Posted by anon on June 29, 2007, 03:50 PM | #

huh? Christianity is not the problem at all.
Europe that has been Christian for 1500+ years and was highly ethnocentric until the last 100 years. If Christianity was the problem I think it would have shown up before now.
Same with America, it was much more Christian that it is today and it was also a racial segregationist nation…  So the idea that Christianity caused the problem doesn’t stack up.

The problem is much much simpler imo, birth control.
When people are young free and single they often behave as liberals.
When people have a family they realise they need the wider communty, country and gain a more protective conservative outlook. The lack of children of the last 50 years has contributed to the increasing ‘liberalism’ and loss of protective attitudes.

I personally feel no doubt that if birth control was removed tomorrow (or something else to cause a widespread large scale baby boom) the Western world would naturally become a much more culturally and financially protectionist place in quite a short space of time, 3-4-5 years.