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Rod Liddle: Things I shouldn’t say about black peopleThere are some things that you can say and there are some things that you can’t say. Paradoxically, they are sometimes the same things. “For example, did you know that black and Asian women commit far more crime than their white counterparts? Almost one third of the total female British prison population is drawn from black and Asian communities. “Now, that’s one of the things you can’t say, or shouldn’t say, unless you’re the British National party. Indeed, you may already be twitching at your breakfast table. Those who point out that black people commit more crime than white people tend to be racists, don’t they? To highlight the apparently greater propensity of black and Asian people to commit crime is what we call “playing the race card”. It foments resentment and antagonism, true or not. Last week an organisation called the Fawcett Society said just this, however. The Fawcett Society is not a descendant of the League of St George or an ally of Migrationwatch UK or Robert Kilroy-Silk. It is an impeccably liberal pressure group. “Our vision is of a society in which women and men are equal partners in the home, at work and in public life,” it proclaims, and its latest report is about how women from ethnic minority backgrounds are having a rough time. “They are far more likely to be put in prison, for example. Now, that is one of the things you can say. Black and Asian women make up 8% of the general population and 29% of the female prison population, ergo they are the victims of an institutionally racist society. But you can’t say that black and Asian women commit more crime. Just as you can say that our schools are failing male pupils from a Caribbean background, but not that boys from a Caribbean background are, for whatever reason, academically not up to scratch. It would seem to me to follow that if children from most other ethnic minority backgrounds do well in school, and that girls from a Caribbean background do very well in school, then the problem might lie with some facet of Caribbean male culture, rather than with the education system. The Fawcett Society report is a perfect model of its kind; disingenuous, simplistic and quick to draw fatuous conclusions from selective data. We are told that British women from ethnic backgrounds (BMEs, as they charmingly put it, for black and minority ethnic) are subject to “systematic discrimination” and that they are “powerless, poor and passed over” and, worse still, “almost entirely absent from the rank of decision makers in the UK”. The report’s conclusions ignore entirely the enormous and complex differences between the various British ethnic minorities: the implication is that all women from an ethnic minority background are discriminated against by the white male hegemony - and it’s bloody well got to stop. The truth is rather different. In terms of employment and income (and education), British people from Indian, Chinese, Japanese and Malaysian backgrounds easily outperform their white counterparts, both male and female. In terms of earnings, women from ethnic minority backgrounds (excepting those from Pakistan and Bangladesh but including, for example, African and Caribbean women) easily outperform white women. The average weekly wage of a white British woman in 2002 was œ180, compared with œ187 for all black and Asian women, œ199 for African women and œ210 for Caribbean women. These figures come from the Cabinet Office. One year later the Downing Street policy unit concluded, in a report entitled Ethnic Minorities and the Labour Market, that “the old picture of white success and ethnic underachievement is now out of date”. So exactly who is being discriminated against here? Should we not be manning the barricades in defence of white women and calling for positive discrimination against those women from our African or Asian communities? And how do we explain the poor performance of Pakistani and Bangladeshi women (who earn only œ140 per week)? Does the problem lie solely with the racist and sexist white hegemony or might there be something within the indigenous culture that is holding these women back? Does our Muslim community, for example, share the Fawcett Society’s aspirations of “a society in which women and men are equal partners in the home, at work and in public life”? Humera Khan is a co-founder of An-Nisa, the Muslim welfare organisation. I don’t think she is quite in accord with the Fawcett Society, for a start: “Most women of colour come from both religious and cultural backgrounds that appreciate a healthy separation of roles . . . this can be a problem when facing white feminism, which has a completely different starting point”. So when the Fawcett Society complains that there is not a single female Muslim MP, who should we blame? Recently in The Guardian newspaper, Joseph Harker, an excellent journalist, attacked the Labour party’s policy of adopting all-women shortlists for selecting MPs. He pointed out that only 12 Labour MPs will be standing down at the next election and in seven of those seats there will be all-women shortlists: this necessarily limits the opportunity to select a black or Asian candidate, he argued. The obvious question, if prejudice and discrimination were solely the preserve of a white male power elite, is: why should it? Is it not a tacit admission that some of our ethnic minority communities are suffused with more sexism than the rest of us? Harker then went on to demolish the case for “quotas” for selecting MPs before concluding, mystifyingly, that Labour must ensure that all shortlists contain not just women but also people from a black or Asian background, disabled people and of course gays and lesbians. That’s a hell of a shortlist, Joseph. And what if they don’t want to be Labour MPs - should we round them up anyway? These attempts to level the playing field through crude social engineering do not work. The reason why women, as a rule, earn less than men and occupy fewer positions of power may be put down partly to vestigial institutionalised sexism; but it is also down to individual choice. In other words, often women do not earn as much as men because they wish to make child-caring their primary role. And this preference is more marked in our Pakistani and Bangladeshi community. And black and Asian women have a greater propensity to commit crime than their white counterparts. There may well be strong socio-economic reasons for why all this is the case; but nonetheless it is the case. Certainly it is not down to genetic predisposition, as your true racist would aver. But neither is it all down to institutionalised racism and sexism, which we might banish with the sweep of a hand and the passing of a law.” (From “The Times”) Posted by jonjayray on Tuesday, February 22, 2005 at 03:56 PM in Race realism Comments:2
Posted by dissidentman on February 22, 2005, 06:27 PM | # Certainly it is not down to genetic predisposition, as your true racist would aver. But neither is it all down to institutionalised racism and sexism, which we might banish with the sweep of a hand and the passing of a law. 1) Institutionalised racism+sexism and 2) genetic predisposition constitute an exhaustive set of possibilities. Because socio-economic conditions do not exist indepently from genetic predispositions, socio-economic conditions do not constitute an actual third possibility. Neoconservatism is a total fraud since it never actually opposes leftism. Instead it just pretends to disagree but doesn’t actually enunciate real opposing views, and neoconservatives are vicious with people on the real right (note the enthusiatic use of Trosky’s r-word). 3
Posted by Fred Scrooby on February 22, 2005, 08:34 PM | # ”[...] Labour must ensure that all shortlists contain not just women but also people from a black or Asian background, disabled people and of course gays and lesbians.” —from the log entry What this is is liberal white people playing holier-than-thou with each other and with whites who don’t subscribe to this crap at all, destructive crap which is worse than infantile and is in fact evil. If these white liberal morons destroy society in the process of playing their pathetic holier-than-thou games, well, that’s just too bad—they absolutely couldn’t care less. They and their egos come first. Dissidentman’s and Seelow’s posts above are both right as rain: one-hundred percent right on the money, both of them. 4
Posted by John S Bolton on February 22, 2005, 09:38 PM | # What is missing here is the identification of the fact that the left concedes defeat when they resort to an ad hominem imitation of debate. ‘But that is what racists say, and racists slippery slope their way into nazism and mass murder’ is not a rational form of argument, but an admission of intellectual poverty. Specifically, it means no arguments are available for the theory that racial inequalities are caused by ungenerosity of the dominants. The writer errs by assuming that debate continues past the point where the leftist is left saying racism. He must declare victory at that point, and if he lets it start up again, that is a new session. If the left’s ad hominem approach were valid, the facts of the historical slippery slopes would have to be considered, and these are grossly unfavorable for the left. Every communist regime has gone to the bottom of the slipppery slope; hardly any modern racist regimes have slipped noticeably below the average of all regimes. Next entry: Free speech a low priority at college Previous entry: The news keeps getting better |
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Posted by seelow heights on February 22, 2005, 05:55 PM | #
Why this absurd lumping together of Blacks and Asians? The “Asian” category itself is silly with its conflation of Pakistanis, Hindus and East Asian mongoloids. And why are Middle Easterners excluded from the Asian category?