Snap!

You—are a moral monster!

Refute this accusation, freely constructing the conversation in which it arose.

This actually happened to me.

Posted by Søren Renner on Tuesday, April 14, 2009 at 09:18 PM in Activism
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Posted by john on April 14, 2009, 09:33 PM | #

Same happened to me except for the moral part. I assumed the comment was made by someone who’d watched Monsters Inc. And concluded it was a compliment. It was made over at the Irish Savant blog where with regards to the H story and J’s I simple stated I wasn’t interested in how many j’s died in the war. Couldn’t care less. Why do American’s omit the negative?

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Posted by guessedrefuter on April 14, 2009, 09:41 PM | #

Eh. A simple “thanks”, as anyone capable of the phrase “moral monster” shouldn’t be tempted to continue speaking.

“So you’re like ... a Nazi, right?”
“Oh, much worse than that.”

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Posted by Søren Renner on April 14, 2009, 10:18 PM | #

“Even a monster has to be moral sometimes”.

This is l’esprit de escalier—in the moment I don’t know what I said.

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Posted by anon on April 14, 2009, 10:36 PM | #

“So you finally noticed!”

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Posted by exPF on April 14, 2009, 11:13 PM | #

“Have you ever ‘done it’ with a moral monster?”

[flirtatiously raise right eyebrow]

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Posted by Valerian on April 14, 2009, 11:38 PM | #

“You—are a moral monster!”

I would just ask them to define their morals and after they explained their position I would tell them they are a slave to Modern thought and their perception is not their own.

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Posted by Spirit of Mario Brothers on April 15, 2009, 01:18 AM | #

“Its surprising that you say that, especially given that I was watering down my opinions so as to appear normal!”

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Posted by "Recession fueling right-wing extremism, DHS says" on April 15, 2009, 01:51 AM | #

“Recession fueling right-wing extremism, DHS says”

By Jane Sutton (April 14, 2009)

MIAMI (Reuters) - Right-wing extremists in the United States are gaining new recruits by exploiting fears about the economy and the election of the first black U.S. president, the Department of Homeland Security warned in a report to law enforcement officials.

The April 7 report, which Reuters and other news media obtained on Tuesday, said such fears were driving a resurgence in “recruitment and radicalization activity” by white supremacist groups, antigovernment extremists and militia movements. It did not identify any by name.

DHS had no specific information about pending violence and said threats had so far been “largely rhetorical.”

But it warned that home foreclosures, unemployment and other consequences of the economic recession “could create a fertile recruiting environment for right-wing extremists.”

“To the extent that these factors persist, right-wing extremism is likely to grow in strength,” DHS said.

The report warned that military veterans returning from Iraq and Afghanistan with combat skills could be recruitment targets, especially those having trouble finding jobs or fitting back into civilian society.

The department “is concerned that right-wing extremists will attempt to recruit and radicalize returning veterans in order to boost their violent capabilities,” the report said.

DHS spokeswoman Sara Kuban said on Tuesday the report was one of an ongoing series of threat assessments aimed at “a greater understanding of violent radicalization in the U.S.”

A similar assessment of left-wing radicals completed in January was distributed to federal, state and local police agencies at that time.

“These assessments are done all the time, this is nothing unusual,” Kuban said.

The Department of Homeland Security was formed in response to the September 11 attacks of 2001 and has focused largely on threats from Islamist extremists.

The report said domestic right-wing terrorist groups grew during the economic recession of the early 1990s but subsided as the economy improved.

Government scrutiny disrupted violent plots following the April 1995 bombing of a federal building in Oklahoma City by Army veteran Timothy McVeigh which killed 168 people.

“Despite similarities to the climate of the 1990s, the threat posed by lone wolves and small terrorist cells is more pronounced than in past years,” the report said.

The Internet has made it easier to locate specific targets, communicate with like-minded people and find information on bombs and weapons, it said.

Extremist groups are preying on fears that President Barack Obama, the first African American U.S. president, would restrict gun ownership, boost immigration and expand social programs for minorities, the report said.

[Drumroll, drumroll please…........wait for it, wait for it….....]It said such groups were also exploiting anti-Semitic sentiment with accusations that “a cabal of Jewish financial elites” had conspired to collapse the economy.

“This trend is likely to accelerate if the economy is perceived to worsen,” the report said.

(Additional reporting by Randall Mikkelsen in Washington, editing by Jim Loney and Alan Elsner)

- http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090414/lf_nm_life/us_usa_security_extremists

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Read the Dept. of Homeland Security without the media filter: https://secure.wikileaks.org/leak/us-dhs-right-wing-extremism-2009.pdf

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Posted by Re:Report-Rightwing Extremism Rising in USA on April 15, 2009, 02:16 AM | #

Seems the far-left digbats, ugly Jews, and other assorted White/Western civilization haters on HuffPo were made a but angsty by the release of this report and its wide reportage in the media seeing as the article there about it got over 9,000+ comments…and they are still adding up.

They are starting to get quite scared and paranoid now because they realize their illusory worldview is disintegrating as millions of Whites in America and Europe are waking up to the facts of their dispossession thanks to the uncensored information which is increasingly available on the internet.  I think that even some of these White far-lefties, multicult-obsessed Jews, and assorted brainwashed automatons find themselves reading some of the uncensored (i.e., un-Jewed) information found on the internet (on sites like this one) and agreeing with a lot of it, and this disturbs them greatly.  Maybe the conscience or inner-awareness of lefty ‘colorblind’ Whites is finally beginning to twitch these days, just a bit?

P.S. - “We surround them.”

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Posted by LEFTISTS HATE FREE SPEECH on April 15, 2009, 02:59 AM | #

Let me repeat: LEFTISTS HATE FREE SPEECH…
ESPECIALLY THE JEWISH LEFTISTS AT ELITE UNIVERSITIES LIKE UNC CHAPEL HILL:

+ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJ7vcgQjkDQ

+ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7naTR5QCxo

LEFTISTS SHUT DOWN FREEDOM OF SPEECH

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Posted by LEFTISTS HATE FREE SPEECH on April 15, 2009, 04:16 AM | #

I’m detecting some patterns here; the following is a write-up of the above anti-free speech leftist even written up by a guy who was filming it:

Those who had come to hear him speak had dismayed, worried, and agitated looks on their faces because the illegal alien supporters were intent upon trying to disrupt the meeting and prevent him from speaking by shouting obscenities, screaming “racist”, and chanting.

Most of the protesters were younger and many were from the UNC campus Hispanic groups. Among their ranks were some students that had a style of dress and hair styles similar to many of the anarchist groups seen around campuses.

I entered and greeted Tom and then I went to find a seat but found the braying protesters to be highly disrespectful and anti-American in their attempts to suppress free speech in the room.

So I raised my voice and asked them to calm down. It took them by surprise for a second, but I explained that this was America and that free speech cannot be attacked using mob rule tactics. When I explained that UNC was my Alma matter and that their actions here would reflect poorly on the University, things calmed down for a few minutes.
...
While things were calming down in the meeting room, you could hear protesters out in the hallways being held at bay by police and they were banging on drums or something similar to try and create enough noise to disrupt the meeting.

There were some older adults in the ranks of the protesters near the back of the room who appeared to be the ring leaders. I hope that we can identify them from the videos to determine if they are UNC employees or merely old school leftist radicals from outside of the campus. [HMMM, “old school leftist radicals,” that sounds familiar…“older adults,” “antiracists,” likely professors or retired ones, and at an elite university in a very liberal town…could these ‘ring leaders’ possibly be JEWISH?]

As Congressman Tancredo started speaking, two anarchist looking girls stood up and unfolded a long banner that read “No One Is Illegal” and many in the crowd sighed and said come on now. Tancredo said that signs were fine and he tried to continue.

Then after a few seconds the two girls winked at each other to give the signal and they moved directly in front of Tancredo putting the sign up physically on his face. Tom tried to pull the sign out of his way and while that altercation took place, the large glass window to the right of Tancredo was shattered by protesters outside of the building.

Luckily, there was a blind in place but the glass did rain down on two students who were there to hear Mr. Tancredo speak.

Police rushed in and the event organizers rushed Congressman Tancredo out of the room. The campus security said the event was over, yet I asked them to secure the building and let it go on. I explained that a broken window was of little cost compared to the value of free speech in America and that the university was setting a dangerous precedent by allowing protesters to silence any view with a broken window.

The security officer in charge understood what I was saying but it became clear that his officers did not have control of the building nor the grounds around the building.

Supporters and protesters alike began to file out of the room. One of the protesters tried to ram his shoulder into me as he passed me, but I did not engage him because I was filming what was happening and telling the protesters that they were not the first group to smash out windows of those they hated.

I kept looking at that broken window and images of bricks thrown through the windows of black families and black churches ran through my mind along with images of Jewish store fronts shattered by the Hitler youth. [brick through window, broken glass: like Kristallnacht…hmmmm]

As we were all leaving the room the protesters set off the fire alarm in the building and they regrouped outside to march with their banners outside of the building in front of many onlookers.

I looked around but could not find any of the event organizers or people I knew. I filmed for a few minutes and went to the side of the building.

About six people in different groups thanked me for coming and trying to settle the protesters down and secure the meeting.

Three black girls who appeared to be students were talking next to me as I spoke to a couple who shook my hand. I told these students that I was ashamed that in my nation there were people willing to destroy free speech by using violence like this.

One of the black girls looked at me, with what felt like sheer hatred and she said, “I’m not from this country. You can have it!”

- CONTINUED: http://www.alipac.us/article4137.html

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Posted by BGD on April 15, 2009, 05:10 AM | #

Hypocrite know thyself. You and your like try to impose a moral tyranny on our society and have the cheek to call me monstrous. Get over yourself.

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Posted by Jupiter on April 15, 2009, 01:21 PM | #

I just tell these cockroaches that I oppose the racial transformation of America via the the continuation of post-1965 immgration. There is nothind more to say. If the liberal left cockroaches call you a bd name ..hurl a bad name back at them.

On a fundamental level, Native Born White Americans need to define the terms of the “debate”. If you allow the liberal-left cockroaches to define the terms of the debate you will always allow their name calling to take the focus off the fundamental issue at hand.

Basically, we need to put it to them like this:If you cant convince me that the racial transformation of America is in my interests as a White Male I wil continue opposing it. What exactly do you intetnd to do about this….the oposition of Millions of Native Born White Americans who oppose there country being racially transformed by pos-1965 immigration policy that is. WE intend to fight. Do you want to take us on.

So in effect, there is no debate. Every post that I have made here,on American Renassaince,Steve Sailer’s web site and on Taki is basically a threat to the immgration enthusiasts:I will fight….a theme in variation with the same underlying motif.It is not a complicated issue.

The free-market Ron Paulism being fanatically pushed over a Taki is obviously the last gasp of the Republican party. The enemey is on the verge of over taking us numerically-and with this will come the murder and enslavement of White Americans-and they blather on about about how the free market ideology is the alternative to a post-1965 non-white political movement.

Look what recently-last night- happened to free-marketeer fool Tancredo at UNC Chapel Hill.

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Posted by Ernest Wesley on April 15, 2009, 02:32 PM | #

You have read the newspapers, watched the news and now with your buttons touched ‘beep beep’ ‘moral monster’ is emitted. Why, because what I say is not pretty? ‘Feed the poor’, ‘cure the ill’...‘repatriate the immigrants’; sure it does not trip off the tongue. Monstrous, perhaps, morally monstrous, no! It is shockingly shallow and ultimately uncompassionate to confuse aesthetics with morality. After all who cares more? They who will look ugly in the eye and empathise to help humanity or they who simply wish to mouth off the same old platitudes and bleetingly ignore the problem? No-one really believes Britain is a better place for all the immigrants; but only some have the moral courage to admit it. I am no more the moral monster than the parent who stops their fat child from eating more sweets. Indeed this phrase goes some way to describe the opposite. Children eating sweets are adorable and no doubt Africans getting shelter here are too, but Africans are responsible for Africa and that is what they escaping. Their own responsibility. Unlike with your children don’t take it. To do so would be immoral because although treating people with maternal care might be pretty, flowery and light you are not their mother, you are not fixing their problems; only afflicting them on your actual children. That is morally monstrous.

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Posted by the Narrator... on April 15, 2009, 02:36 PM | #

You—are a moral monster!

After the strong, nearly overpowering, inclination to slap such a person in the face passed, I expect the proper response would be to lay into them in a thunderous verbal tirade of righteous anger that would peel the the paint off the walls.

Sometimes the defense of measured dignity requires furious wrath.

...

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Posted by Bay Area National Anarchist on April 15, 2009, 02:58 PM | #

Statement:

“You are a moral monster!”

Answer:

“No, I’m a moral monster slayer!”

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Posted by Genophobic on April 15, 2009, 05:08 PM | #

I thought monsters were immoral.  Thanks for the compliment.

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Posted by Robert Reis on April 15, 2009, 10:42 PM | #

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGJUdwSiPVA&feature=PlayList&p=BCE6F746DE47C3C0&index=13
Israel’s president speaks

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Posted by Robert Reis on April 15, 2009, 11:55 PM | #

19 Arabs preloaded WTC buildings with tons of high explosives before hijacking planes.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy1oPmuZZ98&feature=related
Thermite Scientifically Confirmed in 911

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNaS_BNMBUM&feature=related

9 scientists prove traces of explosives in dust from World Trade Center

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKddz3Li9t4&feature=related
9/11 this just in, 100% proof of thermite

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_tf25lx_3o

Main Danish TV News reports on Scientific proof that World Trade Centers were preloaded with tons of explosives.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6DQjBfbn24&feature=related

BREAKING NEWS - Chemist talks about the findings of explosives in dust from World Trade Center.

http://visibility911.libsyn.com/index.php?post_id=453204#

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Visibility 9-11 Welcomes Chemist Dr. Niels H. Harrit
Visibility 9-11 continues our Special Report on the new research paper titled Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe and features an interview with Danish chemist Dr. Niels H. Harrit. Dr. Harrit is an associate professor of chemistry at the University of Copenhagen in Denmark and is the author/or co-author of nearly 60 peer reviewed scientific papers. Dr. Harrit has also served on numerous occasions as a peer reviewer/referee for scientific papers written by others. My guest today is also a member of Scholars for 9-11 Truth and Justice and actively tours Denmark lecturing on his discoveries into the 9-11 cover-up.

Our talk today with Dr. Harrit features an in-depth discussion on a new paper which has been formally published and peer reviewed by The Open Chemical Physics Journal titled Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe. In this revolutionary new research paper, discoveries made in the World Trade Center Dust, particularly the red/gray bi-layered chips, are examined in great detail and include evidence of the thermite fingerprint at every juncture.

The research paper ends with this sentence, which pulls no punches when it comes to what the authors believe these red/gray chips to be:

“Based on these observations, we conclude that the red layer of the red/gray chips we have discovered in the WTC dust is active, unreacted thermitic material, incorporating nanotechnology, and is a highly energetic pyrotechnic or explosive material.”

Dr. Steven E. Jones, co-author of the paper writes:

“In short, the paper explodes the official story that no evidence exists for explosive/pyrotechnic materials in the WTC buildings.” The red/gray chips are the “loaded gun” of 9-11.

Read this important paper directly at The Open Chemical Physics Journal website here.
Find links to the research paper, previous episodes of this special report, and watch for other planned interviews on this topic at our Visibility 9-11 Special Report, The Thermite Fingerprint; The Loaded Gun of 9-11.
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Posted by Proofreader on April 16, 2009, 03:46 PM | #

Just call them “xenophiles”. It sounds ugly enough.

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Posted by Robert Reis on April 17, 2009, 12:11 AM | #

http://podblanc.com/niggers-burn-five-witches-alive-rwanda

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Posted by Steven E. Romer on April 17, 2009, 06:00 AM | #

Moral Monster? 

I would have to say that history is always written by the victor—those left in power after a struggle. The Jews and their communistic and political movements across the globe have become triumphant and totally changed the face of the world. What was called immoral in the past is now the height of morality. Jews drove home the idea that somehow morality is “relative” then sold us a bill of goods. If you consider the objective evidence in biology, history, psychology, etc. then you will see that people who consider race important or ascribe to eugenic notions are the truly moral among us. As one small example, eugenics is basically the force behind all life on Earth. That’s what made us. Since noise is constantly being introduced into the genome, and genetic diseases are passed down, without eugenics we are not long for this world. Further, all reasonable people who do not have ulterior motives, people who do not want to manipulate others for their own ends, will LOVE eugenics. People who love truth and freedom LOVE eugenics. That is because you then logically would want others to be capable and smart because you love truth which requires such people. If people are capable and smart, you cannot lie to them. Liars are totally against eugenics. As for race, the white race invented modern science. We invented freedom guaranteed in constitutions. We invented justice based on objective truth, based on facts. Africans do not have any of these. Our Viking forebears even had “things”—meetings of representatives of all tribes with equal voice—which is reflected in modern representative government. This is very important stuff. If we lose it, morality as we know it will not mean much. Race-mixing used to be against the law in many places for truly and objectively MORAL reasons. Unfortunately you are one of the dupes of those who wrested power from us and are now destroying us off the face of the Earth…

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Posted by Svigor on April 18, 2009, 10:55 PM | #

“Children often speak so to their betters.”

“If you’re going to try to converse with adults, try and speak in the big boy/girl voice okay?”

“To each his own - I find you to be a moral pygmy.  The real difference between us is I acknowledge your right to pursuit of happiness, and you do not reciprocate.”


Or be more logical and point out the obvious, that being a man often entails being thought of as a monster by someone, somewhere.

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Posted by Mentious on April 19, 2009, 05:16 PM | #

Response:

“Do you even know what morality is?”

(Chances are good they are a fornicator, homosexual, philandering husband, woman living with a man unwed, have had an abortion, etc. etc.)

Just let them stew in that a minute, then start listing traditional definitions of morality, and watch them squirm.

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Posted by roundtop on April 22, 2009, 01:05 AM | #

Soren,

Was it a good idea to share a platform with these people:
http://illinoisnsf.com/article.aspx?ArticleID=8

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Posted by Søren Renner on April 23, 2009, 03:11 PM | #

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