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Snap!You—are a moral monster! Refute this accusation, freely constructing the conversation in which it arose. This actually happened to me. Posted by Søren Renner on Tuesday, April 14, 2009 at 09:18 PM in Activism Comments:2
Posted by guessedrefuter on April 14, 2009, 09:41 PM | # Eh. A simple “thanks”, as anyone capable of the phrase “moral monster” shouldn’t be tempted to continue speaking. “So you’re like ... a Nazi, right?” 3
Posted by Søren Renner on April 14, 2009, 10:18 PM | # “Even a monster has to be moral sometimes”. This is l’esprit de escalier—in the moment I don’t know what I said. 5
Posted by exPF on April 14, 2009, 11:13 PM | # “Have you ever ‘done it’ with a moral monster?” [flirtatiously raise right eyebrow] 6
Posted by Valerian on April 14, 2009, 11:38 PM | # “You—are a moral monster!” I would just ask them to define their morals and after they explained their position I would tell them they are a slave to Modern thought and their perception is not their own. 7
Posted by Spirit of Mario Brothers on April 15, 2009, 01:18 AM | # “Its surprising that you say that, especially given that I was watering down my opinions so as to appear normal!” 8
Posted by "Recession fueling right-wing extremism, DHS says" on April 15, 2009, 01:51 AM | # “Recession fueling right-wing extremism, DHS says” By Jane Sutton (April 14, 2009) MIAMI (Reuters) - Right-wing extremists in the United States are gaining new recruits by exploiting fears about the economy and the election of the first black U.S. president, the Department of Homeland Security warned in a report to law enforcement officials. The April 7 report, which Reuters and other news media obtained on Tuesday, said such fears were driving a resurgence in “recruitment and radicalization activity” by white supremacist groups, antigovernment extremists and militia movements. It did not identify any by name. DHS had no specific information about pending violence and said threats had so far been “largely rhetorical.” But it warned that home foreclosures, unemployment and other consequences of the economic recession “could create a fertile recruiting environment for right-wing extremists.” “To the extent that these factors persist, right-wing extremism is likely to grow in strength,” DHS said. The report warned that military veterans returning from Iraq and Afghanistan with combat skills could be recruitment targets, especially those having trouble finding jobs or fitting back into civilian society. The department “is concerned that right-wing extremists will attempt to recruit and radicalize returning veterans in order to boost their violent capabilities,” the report said. DHS spokeswoman Sara Kuban said on Tuesday the report was one of an ongoing series of threat assessments aimed at “a greater understanding of violent radicalization in the U.S.” A similar assessment of left-wing radicals completed in January was distributed to federal, state and local police agencies at that time. “These assessments are done all the time, this is nothing unusual,” Kuban said. The Department of Homeland Security was formed in response to the September 11 attacks of 2001 and has focused largely on threats from Islamist extremists. The report said domestic right-wing terrorist groups grew during the economic recession of the early 1990s but subsided as the economy improved. Government scrutiny disrupted violent plots following the April 1995 bombing of a federal building in Oklahoma City by Army veteran Timothy McVeigh which killed 168 people. “Despite similarities to the climate of the 1990s, the threat posed by lone wolves and small terrorist cells is more pronounced than in past years,” the report said. The Internet has made it easier to locate specific targets, communicate with like-minded people and find information on bombs and weapons, it said. Extremist groups are preying on fears that President Barack Obama, the first African American U.S. president, would restrict gun ownership, boost immigration and expand social programs for minorities, the report said. [Drumroll, drumroll please…........wait for it, wait for it….....]It said such groups were also exploiting anti-Semitic sentiment with accusations that “a cabal of Jewish financial elites” had conspired to collapse the economy. “This trend is likely to accelerate if the economy is perceived to worsen,” the report said. (Additional reporting by Randall Mikkelsen in Washington, editing by Jim Loney and Alan Elsner) - http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090414/lf_nm_life/us_usa_security_extremists —- Read the Dept. of Homeland Security without the media filter: https://secure.wikileaks.org/leak/us-dhs-right-wing-extremism-2009.pdf 9
Posted by Re:Report-Rightwing Extremism Rising in USA on April 15, 2009, 02:16 AM | # Seems the far-left digbats, ugly Jews, and other assorted White/Western civilization haters on HuffPo were made a but angsty by the release of this report and its wide reportage in the media seeing as the article there about it got over 9,000+ comments…and they are still adding up. They are starting to get quite scared and paranoid now because they realize their illusory worldview is disintegrating as millions of Whites in America and Europe are waking up to the facts of their dispossession thanks to the uncensored information which is increasingly available on the internet. I think that even some of these White far-lefties, multicult-obsessed Jews, and assorted brainwashed automatons find themselves reading some of the uncensored (i.e., un-Jewed) information found on the internet (on sites like this one) and agreeing with a lot of it, and this disturbs them greatly. Maybe the conscience or inner-awareness of lefty ‘colorblind’ Whites is finally beginning to twitch these days, just a bit? P.S. - “We surround them.” 10
Posted by LEFTISTS HATE FREE SPEECH on April 15, 2009, 02:59 AM | # Let me repeat: LEFTISTS HATE FREE SPEECH… + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJ7vcgQjkDQ + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7naTR5QCxo LEFTISTS SHUT DOWN FREEDOM OF SPEECH 11
Posted by LEFTISTS HATE FREE SPEECH on April 15, 2009, 04:16 AM | # I’m detecting some patterns here; the following is a write-up of the above anti-free speech leftist even written up by a guy who was filming it:
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Posted by BGD on April 15, 2009, 05:10 AM | # Hypocrite know thyself. You and your like try to impose a moral tyranny on our society and have the cheek to call me monstrous. Get over yourself. 13
Posted by Jupiter on April 15, 2009, 01:21 PM | # I just tell these cockroaches that I oppose the racial transformation of America via the the continuation of post-1965 immgration. There is nothind more to say. If the liberal left cockroaches call you a bd name ..hurl a bad name back at them. On a fundamental level, Native Born White Americans need to define the terms of the “debate”. If you allow the liberal-left cockroaches to define the terms of the debate you will always allow their name calling to take the focus off the fundamental issue at hand. Basically, we need to put it to them like this:If you cant convince me that the racial transformation of America is in my interests as a White Male I wil continue opposing it. What exactly do you intetnd to do about this….the oposition of Millions of Native Born White Americans who oppose there country being racially transformed by pos-1965 immigration policy that is. WE intend to fight. Do you want to take us on. So in effect, there is no debate. Every post that I have made here,on American Renassaince,Steve Sailer’s web site and on Taki is basically a threat to the immgration enthusiasts:I will fight….a theme in variation with the same underlying motif.It is not a complicated issue. The free-market Ron Paulism being fanatically pushed over a Taki is obviously the last gasp of the Republican party. The enemey is on the verge of over taking us numerically-and with this will come the murder and enslavement of White Americans-and they blather on about about how the free market ideology is the alternative to a post-1965 non-white political movement. Look what recently-last night- happened to free-marketeer fool Tancredo at UNC Chapel Hill. 14
Posted by Ernest Wesley on April 15, 2009, 02:32 PM | # You have read the newspapers, watched the news and now with your buttons touched ‘beep beep’ ‘moral monster’ is emitted. Why, because what I say is not pretty? ‘Feed the poor’, ‘cure the ill’...‘repatriate the immigrants’; sure it does not trip off the tongue. Monstrous, perhaps, morally monstrous, no! It is shockingly shallow and ultimately uncompassionate to confuse aesthetics with morality. After all who cares more? They who will look ugly in the eye and empathise to help humanity or they who simply wish to mouth off the same old platitudes and bleetingly ignore the problem? No-one really believes Britain is a better place for all the immigrants; but only some have the moral courage to admit it. I am no more the moral monster than the parent who stops their fat child from eating more sweets. Indeed this phrase goes some way to describe the opposite. Children eating sweets are adorable and no doubt Africans getting shelter here are too, but Africans are responsible for Africa and that is what they escaping. Their own responsibility. Unlike with your children don’t take it. To do so would be immoral because although treating people with maternal care might be pretty, flowery and light you are not their mother, you are not fixing their problems; only afflicting them on your actual children. That is morally monstrous. 15
Posted by the Narrator... on April 15, 2009, 02:36 PM | #
After the strong, nearly overpowering, inclination to slap such a person in the face passed, I expect the proper response would be to lay into them in a thunderous verbal tirade of righteous anger that would peel the the paint off the walls. Sometimes the defense of measured dignity requires furious wrath. ... 16
Posted by Bay Area National Anarchist on April 15, 2009, 02:58 PM | # Statement: “You are a moral monster!” Answer: “No, I’m a moral monster slayer!” 17
Posted by Genophobic on April 15, 2009, 05:08 PM | # I thought monsters were immoral. Thanks for the compliment. 18
Posted by Robert Reis on April 15, 2009, 10:42 PM | # http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGJUdwSiPVA&feature=PlayList&p=BCE6F746DE47C3C0&index=13 19
Posted by Robert Reis on April 15, 2009, 11:55 PM | # 19 Arabs preloaded WTC buildings with tons of high explosives before hijacking planes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNaS_BNMBUM&feature=related 9 scientists prove traces of explosives in dust from World Trade Center http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKddz3Li9t4&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_tf25lx_3o Main Danish TV News reports on Scientific proof that World Trade Centers were preloaded with tons of explosives. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6DQjBfbn24&feature=related BREAKING NEWS - Chemist talks about the findings of explosives in dust from World Trade Center. http://visibility911.libsyn.com/index.php?post_id=453204# official lie of September 11th, 2001 Our talk today with Dr. Harrit features an in-depth discussion on a new paper which has been formally published and peer reviewed by The Open Chemical Physics Journal titled Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe. In this revolutionary new research paper, discoveries made in the World Trade Center Dust, particularly the red/gray bi-layered chips, are examined in great detail and include evidence of the thermite fingerprint at every juncture. The research paper ends with this sentence, which pulls no punches when it comes to what the authors believe these red/gray chips to be: “Based on these observations, we conclude that the red layer of the red/gray chips we have discovered in the WTC dust is active, unreacted thermitic material, incorporating nanotechnology, and is a highly energetic pyrotechnic or explosive material.” Dr. Steven E. Jones, co-author of the paper writes: “In short, the paper explodes the official story that no evidence exists for explosive/pyrotechnic materials in the WTC buildings.” The red/gray chips are the “loaded gun” of 9-11. Read this important paper directly at The Open Chemical Physics Journal website here. 20
Posted by Proofreader on April 16, 2009, 03:46 PM | # Just call them “xenophiles”. It sounds ugly enough. 21
Posted by Robert Reis on April 17, 2009, 12:11 AM | # 22
Posted by Steven E. Romer on April 17, 2009, 06:00 AM | # Moral Monster? I would have to say that history is always written by the victor—those left in power after a struggle. The Jews and their communistic and political movements across the globe have become triumphant and totally changed the face of the world. What was called immoral in the past is now the height of morality. Jews drove home the idea that somehow morality is “relative” then sold us a bill of goods. If you consider the objective evidence in biology, history, psychology, etc. then you will see that people who consider race important or ascribe to eugenic notions are the truly moral among us. As one small example, eugenics is basically the force behind all life on Earth. That’s what made us. Since noise is constantly being introduced into the genome, and genetic diseases are passed down, without eugenics we are not long for this world. Further, all reasonable people who do not have ulterior motives, people who do not want to manipulate others for their own ends, will LOVE eugenics. People who love truth and freedom LOVE eugenics. That is because you then logically would want others to be capable and smart because you love truth which requires such people. If people are capable and smart, you cannot lie to them. Liars are totally against eugenics. As for race, the white race invented modern science. We invented freedom guaranteed in constitutions. We invented justice based on objective truth, based on facts. Africans do not have any of these. Our Viking forebears even had “things”—meetings of representatives of all tribes with equal voice—which is reflected in modern representative government. This is very important stuff. If we lose it, morality as we know it will not mean much. Race-mixing used to be against the law in many places for truly and objectively MORAL reasons. Unfortunately you are one of the dupes of those who wrested power from us and are now destroying us off the face of the Earth… 23
Posted by Svigor on April 18, 2009, 10:55 PM | # “Children often speak so to their betters.” “If you’re going to try to converse with adults, try and speak in the big boy/girl voice okay?” “To each his own - I find you to be a moral pygmy. The real difference between us is I acknowledge your right to pursuit of happiness, and you do not reciprocate.”
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Posted by Mentious on April 19, 2009, 05:16 PM | # Response: “Do you even know what morality is?” (Chances are good they are a fornicator, homosexual, philandering husband, woman living with a man unwed, have had an abortion, etc. etc.) Just let them stew in that a minute, then start listing traditional definitions of morality, and watch them squirm. 25
Posted by roundtop on April 22, 2009, 01:05 AM | # Soren, Was it a good idea to share a platform with these people: 26
Posted by Søren Renner on April 23, 2009, 03:11 PM | # If you have a question or want to say something to me that is not relevant to the thread, please mail me. Next entry: Left vs. Right: An Easter Egg Hunt for Historical Truth Previous entry: Police protection of child rapists |
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Posted by john on April 14, 2009, 09:33 PM | #
Same happened to me except for the moral part. I assumed the comment was made by someone who’d watched Monsters Inc. And concluded it was a compliment. It was made over at the Irish Savant blog where with regards to the H story and J’s I simple stated I wasn’t interested in how many j’s died in the war. Couldn’t care less. Why do American’s omit the negative?