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Starvation to keep the masses on a leashThe money people [bankers] aren’t content with just control of money and possession of most wealth in their hands, but they want to take away people’s ability to bypass their system in any way. So they’ve also been attacking the ability of individuals to grow food in one’s yard or land. A good discussion is here: http://nzfoodsecurity.org/2011/07/19/food-a-controlled-substance-not-in-my-back-yard/ If the money masters get their way, what will happen? Easier mass starvation deaths, like the Holodomor, in regions with too many troublesome protesters against the system. Learn, get wiser and pass it around. Posted by R-news on Sunday, December 18, 2011 at 09:22 PM in Activism, New Zealand Politics, World Affairs Comments:2
Posted by Jimmy Marr on December 18, 2011, 10:02 PM | # Yep. This why I never fail to celebrate International, Eat a Banker Day. It’s a win-win, and I never liked turkey anyway. 3
Posted by Captainchaos on December 19, 2011, 06:25 AM | # It’s not Reuters, it’s “Richards” - LOL. 4
Posted by danielj on December 19, 2011, 02:42 PM | # Cargill is simply a “Ma&Pa;” farm op doing their best to provide good service to their free-market customers. It is a family owned business making it big time and it is obviously because they provide a superior product. So what if they are writing legislation that prevents these upstart operations from unfairly competing against them. How could a small family business compete against these other small shops that don’t have to pay for any internalities that an family farm like Cargill has to pay for. Thank God that Cargill can count on the moderately libertarian Food and Drug Administration to stand up for the little guy! Here’s what is in the pipeline for us. A little freestyle market discipline for us socialistic fuck-head WN’s! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_privatization#Cochabamba.2C_Bolivia 5
Posted by Helvena on December 20, 2011, 08:41 AM | # This is a very important topic. Seed Savers was a grassroots organization of people sharing what nature has given us and then money moved in. And yes G. Lister there are Jewish fingers in this pie. Please take the time to read the construction of the next great starvation. http://helvena.wordpress.com/2011/03/02/seed-savers/ Goldman and Fowler are being dishonest – to Seed Savers’ Members and in the avalanche of self-promotion from the Global Crop Diversity Trust, the entity that oversees Svalbard – by concealing the fact that being deposited in Svalbard places Seed Savers Members’ Seed Collection under the control of the United Nations’ FAO Treaty, which was specifically designed to facilitate access by corporate breeders. 6
Posted by Kievsky on December 20, 2011, 11:55 AM | # This has long been a hobby horse of mine. I am more or less self sufficient in fruits and vegetables: http://mindweaponsinragnarok.wordpress.com/2011/12/19/still-eating-my-garden-in-december/ Even if they make it illegal for small farmers to sell food, that will drive food production and trade underground EVEN FURTHER, which is actually a good thing, because it will become more distributed. We want a larger and larger percentage o the population working in some form of farming, whether it’s a small plot, chickens, goats, using their lawn for hay—whatever. My town could quickly become an agricultural net exporter, even if fuel was cut off. We’d be doing “haying” with machetes and horse forks. Car garages will become chicken houses. Every piece of lawn will either be hay, or fruits or vegetables. We will raise worms and bugs to feed to our chickens, using animal guts and manure to feed the bugs. The technology is all there. I play around with this technology and study it, and I have friends that are big into it. There are food production technologies that you have never heard of. I know someone who raises worms, feeding them waste vegetable matter from his garden, and feeds the worms to tilapia. He also feeds vegetable matter directly to the tilapia. And when he changes the tilapia water, which he has to do every day, the fish-poop water goes on his fields. So the more they crack down on small farming, the stronger they will make it. As far as the economics of “illegal” local food production, suppose we aren’t allowed to exchnage money for local food? For our “safety” of course. We’ll be bartering, and “work for food.” Trade networks will spring up; we will figure out ways to exchange value among each other that doesn’t involve money as a universal signifier of value. This will create more social cohesion, and our problems are a result of a lack of social cohesion. So to the crackdown on local food, I say, “bring it on, bitches!” I want to recommend a book for anyone interested. I have this book but have not had time to read it yet. It is how Asians developed a form of farming that is extremely high yield AND sustainable over millennia (4000 years to be specific). Some reviews of the book. This book describes in a fair amount of detail the several thousand year-old practices of several Asian cultures for successfully maintaining the health of their soil through community composting and spreading that on the fields. While these practices are culture-wide, a single farmer could do much of it on his own farm or multiple farms as a community practice in order to pool composting resources. What’s odd is that those countries in “Farmers of Forty Centuries” have been able to feed large numbers of people using the methods outlined in this book, yet they have recently been turning away from those tried and true methods in favor of European and American farming methods, both of whose methods have impoverished their soils. There must have been a great sales pitch, pressure from supposedly knowing university studies along with inward cultural pressures to become “modern”. They don’t realize what an amazing feat they’ve been accomplishing in keeping their soils healthy for so long. Along with this book I would highly recommend all of Masanobu Fukuoka’s books on farming (if you can find them), especially “Natural Farming”, which outlines his methods. For a fresh and humorous approach to night soil composting, check out “The Humanure Handbook: A Guide To Composting Human Manure”, which outlines how to use human waste to recharge the soil rather than wasting it in cess tanks and polluting our ground water with it. Although this would only work for warm climates year-round, it certainly follows the spirit of Farmers of Forty Centuries and would be do-able in the warm months in colder climates. (Maybe worth a university study to observe pathogen behavior in humanure compost?) Also, for farmers in or near a desert environment, check out Geoff Lawton’s video on [...] about how to green the desert -yes he’s actually doing it and teaches others how, especially important in areas of the USA where farming and other usage is draining the Oglala aquifer. [...] A wonderful book, despite its having been originally written more than 100 years ago. Fresh and sobering look at what it takes to make a civilized society run on a daily basis without modern technology, from food production to how to make cotton mattresses by hand, to manufacturing coal based blocks for home heating and cooking - in a backyard; and how to build a k’ang, a raised heated platform used for sitting and sleeping. n 1909, American agronomist F.H. King toured China, Korea and Japan, studying traditional fertilization, tillage and general farming practices. He wrote his observations and findings in Farmers of Forty Centuries, Or Permanent Agriculture in China, Korea, and Japan (1911, published shortly after his death by his wife, Carrie Baker King; numerous facsimile reprintings, including Courier Dover Publications, ISBN 0-486-43609-8, and Rodale Press, ISBN 0-87857-867-6). King lived in an era preceding synthetic nitrogen fertilizer production and before the use of the internal combustion engine for farm machinery, yet he was profoundly interested in the challenge of farming the same soils in a ‘permanent’ manner, hence his interest in the agricultural practices of ancient cultures. In recent years, his book became an important organic farming reference. 7
Posted by Kievsky on December 20, 2011, 11:57 AM | # By the way, if you think as I do, that doom is coming, here’s something you’re going to want: 8
Posted by danielj on December 20, 2011, 12:02 PM | # Apocalypse Now: A Survival Guide How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Make it thru the Coming Battle Between Gog and Magog by Composting My Own Shit jews: LOLLLZZZLOLOLZZZIE 9
Posted by uh on December 20, 2011, 01:45 PM | # K, A lot of good info there, thank you.
Now there’s my idea of a good life. Actually because we discussed eating bugs for nutrition, I didn’t even think of raising them purely as chicken feed.
Wonderful! No more worrying about the belts on a mower and where you put the dang twine.
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Posted by Kievsky on December 20, 2011, 01:55 PM | # Oh, we’ll eat bugs directly, too! I wonder if catching grasshoppers on a summer day will be a positive EROEI (energy returned on energy invested). Also, sunfish and bass from the local rivers and lakes. I fear people will be dynamiting the fishing holes, and/or fighting over them. You want to get a sun oven because you’ll be able to pasteurize water. People drinking from the rivers and lakes will often ingest deadly amoebas. I know a guy who was the Civil Defense Coordinator in the 1960’s, who was ready to help this area survive after we were hit by atom bombs. He said that what was going ot happen was people were going to get sick from untreated water. People get lazy and just drink directly from sources and then get horribly sick. 11
Posted by danielj on December 20, 2011, 01:56 PM | # Food independence is no laughing matter. I will resume joking about it now. 12
Posted by uh on December 20, 2011, 02:11 PM | #
Don’t know, but we’ll be some weird white men. Weird apocalyptic bug-eating racist hippies. I can’t wait!! I would count on lake/river access becoming violently contentious. I bet that Sun Oven would make some good “Essene bread”. Tried it once, not patient enough, ate it half-baked. Anyhow, I have saved the link. What I love about this stuff is that it doesn’t invite substantive criticism, because it isn’t ideological, at least beyond the fundamental choice of life-ways not fully dependent on the fiat butthex matrix — no GT to make us yawk with cryptic jive about mineral rights and rockets, no Silver with his staggering omniscience and blind-leading-the-blind exhortatio, no uh burying serious discourse under layers of lolzzzzlzlozozzz and illiterate emoting madness, no Grahmmy Wammy to ... well, he would insert his anti-American anorgasmia just about anyplace. Of course could view it in meta-perspective as well: there is no going back to the soil if one cannot afford it, if development pushes one out or the gummint appropriates it, or there is catastrophic ecological collapse, the poles flip, the ionosphere degrades, etc. But we are still only single men without a folk and must provide for ourselves, disconnecting from agribusiness and the hordes of lascivious mammonitish fiat-menschen. 13
Posted by CL on December 20, 2011, 04:58 PM | # When I’m kickin’ back with my sun oven and Berkey water filter, chickens and bug-fed tilapia, I’m going to be the king you-know-what. 14
Posted by Leon Haller on December 20, 2011, 06:13 PM | # Kievsky, Excellent links. Keep em coming. Note: ecology and sociobiology are (as I have opined in the past) the two disciplines which I think successfully challenge the laissez-faire capitalist model of economics. Methodological individualism is correct microeconomically (we understand the behavior of individuals and firms through use of praxeological principles), but ecological (and geopolitical) concerns must be addressed by any worthwhile macroeconomics. [Of course, the type of Keynesian macroeconomics which prevails today is completely illogical and demonstrably harmful.] 15
Posted by Thorn on December 20, 2011, 07:22 PM | # Posted by Kievsky on December 20, 2011, 11:57 AM | # By the way, if you think as I do, that doom is coming, here’s something you’re going to want: http://www.sunoven.com/sun-cooking-usa/how-to-use —— Sorry Kievsky, I’m not a rocket scientist like our friend Ivan, but I do know enough about physics that the sunoven is complete BS. It can’t possibly work as the shyster in the video claims. PT Barnum rule kicks in on that one. 16
Posted by danielj on December 20, 2011, 07:49 PM | # PT Barnum rule kicks in on that one. Free snake-oilz! Cum ova herrrre and geeeeet yer snake-oilz! 17
Posted by danielj on December 20, 2011, 07:59 PM | # Note: ecology and sociobiology are (as I have opined in the past) the two disciplines which I think successfully challenge the laissez-faire [whipcrackz!] capitalist model [whipcrackz!!!] of economics. Methodological individualism [stayonplantationz beta sperg!] is correct microeconomically [viz the destruction of Aragon and blackz-on-whitez pornography and crime] (we understand the behavior of individuals [whipcrackz! the human heart and soulz is reducible to jewscience!] and firms through use of praxeological principles), but ecological (and geopolitical) concerns must be addressed by any worthwhile macroeconomics. [Of course, the type of Keynesian macroeconomics which prevails today is completely illogical and demonstrably harmful.][keynes liked the butthex and simple mindz thinks alikes!] jews: LOZZZLOLZZLOLZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 18
Posted by Thorn on December 20, 2011, 08:24 PM | # Posted by danielj on December 20, 2011, 07:49 PM | # PT Barnum rule kicks in on that one. Free snake-oilz! Cum ova herrrre and geeeeet yer snake-oilz! ——- Thanks, daniel, for revealing yourself as the prison yard thug that you are. .... YOU HAVE SELF DISTRUCTED, too bad you don’t know it yet! ... sooner or later you’ll realize that the influence uh infused upon you will fade away ... son. 19
Posted by uh on December 20, 2011, 08:46 PM | #
Oh no. He blew his cred with the MR commentariat by showing some character. I guess now he is officially standing in Jared Taylor’s and Unamused’s and Silver’s and Haller’s path to convincing people to ... vote Republican ... ? ... and not ... eat fiat-carbs .......... or perhaps to have lots of money and move away from darkies ?? 20
Posted by Thorn on December 20, 2011, 09:08 PM | # “or perhaps to have lots of money and move away from darkies ??” —- Hey Uh! I’m not sure what you mean by darkies, but if you mean darkies as synonymous with niggers, then yeah, I want to make enough money to move as far away from them as I can! 23
Posted by danielj on December 20, 2011, 11:08 PM | # Thanks, daniel, for revealing yourself as the prison yard thug that you are. You idiot. I was agreeing with you. Do I have to break yous in halves in publick homo? Or… Are you going to email me like I said? Or is the graybeardz contingent too hard of hearingz? 24
Posted by SHTF on December 21, 2011, 11:06 PM | # Never hurts to have a .22 rifle around. That’ll put food on the table too. Larger caliber weapons are also good to have about in the event of unpleasantries. 25
Posted by danielj on December 21, 2011, 11:59 PM | # Never hurts to have a .22 rifle around. That’ll put food on the table too. Larger caliber weapons are also good to have about in the event of unpleasantries. a .22 is like propane… and propane is for pussies! one needs at least a 308… a 22 is for fighting your way to where you keep your guns! 26
Posted by Kievsky on December 24, 2011, 04:05 PM | # Thorn wrote: Sorry Kievsky, I’m not a rocket scientist like our friend Ivan, but I do know enough about physics that the sunoven is complete BS. It can’t possibly work as the shyster in the video claims. PT Barnum rule kicks in on that one. I own a Sun Oven. It has a thermometer in it that is always visible. It got up to 280 degrees in October in Connecticut, USA easily boiling water and cooking. It also does dehydration, but you have to keep the temp down to 120 for that, so you can actually dehydrate stuff well into autumn. And it definitely boils water. You can produce potable water with this thing, and the only input is sunlight. If it is urgent you can be boiling water all spring and dsummer and autumn long, as it EASILY boils water. So there you go Mr. Physicist. I own one of the damn things, they work great for my purposes. 27
Posted by Thorn on December 24, 2011, 08:23 PM | #
The dude selling the oven CLAIMED the oven gets up to 350 to 400 degrees Fahrenheit and it doesn’t matter what the surrounding temperature (ambient temperature) is as long as the oven is facing the sun. This claim is laughable; hence, fail. FAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 28
Posted by SHTF on December 25, 2011, 10:15 PM | # a .22 is like propane… and propane is for pussies! one needs at least a 308… a 22 is for fighting your way to where you keep your guns! I hope that you are joking. 30
Posted by SHTF on December 26, 2011, 03:04 PM | # I hope that you are joking about using a .22 to get to your .308. 32
Posted by Thorn on December 26, 2011, 04:46 PM | # Gentlemen, WRT choosing the appropriate weapon for self defence, I think it best to heed the advice of Kurt Saxon - known affectionately as the Father of Survivalism.
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Posted by danielj on December 26, 2011, 05:10 PM | # you are 100% right thorn… that is pretty much the advice in Boston’s Gun Bible too. 34
Posted by Jimmy Marr on December 26, 2011, 05:47 PM | # A pistol for the bedroom, Ah….right. What makes me suspect an intentional gap in this arsenal between the scattergun and the long gun? Did you guys ever think this might be one Californian’s way of making other Californians feel good about their disarmament and their prospects in a shooting war against the assault weapons the ATF has been supplying to the Mexican drug cartels. Next thing I know, you’ll be advocating the digging of trenches. 35
Posted by Thorn on December 26, 2011, 07:26 PM | #
LOL! You’re going way off on a tangent there. Get a grip on it, Jimmy. (No pun intended.) Your ‘imagination’ is getting the best of you. The main point is: get the appropriate guns for personal defence. Then practice, practice, practice. Believe me, we’re not falling into some double dealing trap set by the NWO. BTW, SHTF is right if he is saying a .22 is a very good choice for small game hunting.
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Posted by Jimmy Marr on December 26, 2011, 10:01 PM | # Just because one is out of his depth, doesn’t qualify his surroundings as the deep end. 37
Posted by Please Explain on December 26, 2011, 10:57 PM | # “Ah….right. What makes me suspect an intentional gap in this arsenal between the scattergun and the long gun?” International gap? Most (I think everyone’s) armies these days use an intermediate round for their rifles: 7.62x39, 5.56x45 or that newer Russian one. Larger rounds are used, but those are for snipers, MG’s and vehicles, not the everyday guy in the field. Is the gap you are referring to about the intermediate round? 38
Posted by Thorn on December 27, 2011, 12:03 AM | #
HUH?!? Can you translate what you mean by that for us stupid proles? 39
Posted by Jimmy Marr on December 27, 2011, 01:13 AM | #
Yeah, but more importantly I was referring to carbines. While they’re not the beat all to end all, it’s kinda dumb, in my opinion, to intentionally leave them out of an arsenal, unless one is simply trying to avoid ZOG’s ire, by pretending to believe they could serve no defensive purpose. Wars are never waged by aggressors. Always by defenders. It just so happens that the best defense is sometimes composed of a good offense. To otherwise restrict one’s tactical options is to confine oneself to the shallow end of warfare, which is a good way to become a “sitting duck”. 40
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