The Boer genocide

Carefully made on a hillside at Pietersburg there is a cross of many white crosses.  It is a memorial to the Afrikaner lives lost to black violence in rural South Africa since 1991.


picture courtesy of stopboergencide.com

In those fourteen years there have been more than 20,000 armed attacks perpetrated by groups of militant, young African males on South African commercial farms, mostly run by white Afrikaners of course. The SA farm murder toll now stands at 1,782 since the end of apartheid.  But this is a crisis that the international media all but ignore.  You will, for example, wait till you drop for any hint of it from CNN.

So, why do we hear so little about the real South African situation these days?  To me, it seems that only those issues which appeal to the popular imagination reach the presses.  The corruption of the black ANC mafia, filling its pockets under the pretext of “Black Economic Empowerment”, has been in the news.  So, too, has the never-ending search for riches of less lucky blacks eager, perhaps, to follow a bad example.  And we hear about AIDS, of course, and the ANC medical quacks’ capriole cures - which confirm all our suspicions of black competence.

Corruption, violent crime, AIDS and incompetence, it seems, are images of South Africa which we have grown used to and expect to have reinforced.  Generally, though, even if much of the early idealism and the global wave of goodwill that accompanied the birth of modern South Africa has been dented by the realities of black power, the rainbow nation still elicits a kind of hope from the West.  All that talk about truth and reconciliation, all the saint-worship of Nelson Mandela has to have been for something, surely.  The notion that it might not … even that post-apartheid South Africa might treat its Boer minority far worse than ever the old National Party governments treated blacks is simply not fit for the liberal West to contemplate.  Besides, the Boer is not a picturesque victim, not a figure of sympathy.

You think I exaggerate, perhaps?  Try googling “Boer farm murders”.  You will get the picture.

So … what are the facts about the Boer genocide, the plaasmoorde in Afrikaans … the farm murders?  A good introduction is the film, “Bloody Harvest”.  In fact, this link provides only the first quarter of an hour of the whole film.  Lady Adriana Stuijt, who you can mail at .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address), will send the complete film on DVD from her Netherlands base.  But she needs you to make a donation to the Foundation for Afrikaner Asylum-seekers International (and give her your postal address with the email).

What official statistics do exist about the farm murders?  Scroll down this page.  But … retain your scepticism.  There is something puzzling here.  In recent years the number of the farm attacks has slightly diminished (with 14%) according to these police statistics.  But the number of murders involved has mysteriously gone missing.  How could this be explained?  An acquaintance of mine from SA’s Northwest Province (I can’t disclose further details than that) explained it to me as follows:-

It is the SA government censors. They forbid the South African police (SAPS) from giving crime statistics to the public without the government’s consent.  It is also forbidden for the media to report crime that is not first approved by the police’s headquarters.

It is an understatement to say that the police’s new farm attack statistics are governmentally “approved”.  It’s also a pity that the only thing that really interests us, the murders, have been removed - the more so because there are reports now that farm attacks are getting more brutal than ever.

Btw, another indication that the official statistics are unreliable is that Interpol’s global murder figures for South Africa are approximately double the number of “recorded murders”.  And bear in mind that the farm murder rate is FOUR times the official South African murder average.  If the South African government denies a correlation of 400%, they are in urgent need of a course in statistics.

The white Boer, the Afrikaner farmer, is easily the highest at-risk group for murder on Earth ... 310 in 100,000 per year actually.  By comparison, in London the yearly probability of getting murdered is 3 in 100,000.  The world’s foremost authority on genocide, Dr Gregory Stanton of “Genocide Watch”, has recognised the seriousness of the Boer genocide in his 2002 report.

South Africa’s blacks, and especially the ANC youth, still sing the old ANC resistance song “Kill The Boer”.  In this they have their purposes.  But in the wider world there has been an important shift in the meaning of that word “Boer”.  In German, ein Bauer is nothing but a farmer.  In the Boer War more than a century ago the word implied a fighter.  And under the apartheid regime it became the generic name for the apartheid government and its apartheid army … the apartheid army that was the immediate enemy of the ANC guerrillas.  Singing “Kill The Boer”, in fact, meant “kill the apartheid soldier”.  However, now the Boer is once again merely a farmer and nothing more.  He is a man who works hard with his hands and with few words and whose children now ponder emigrating (though that is difficult - Afrikaners are no colonials and have no mother land to which to return).

The “Kill The Boer” slogan has even been ruled as hate speech by the SA Human Rights Commission (SAHRC) because it incites people to kill Afrikaners.  Yet the ANC ‘s public meetings still sing “shaya ma buru” all over South Africa.  It should be noted that under the UN Genocide convention, such incitements to kill ethnic minorities by any ruling regime is also legally ruled to be genocide and could be rigorously pursued in the International Criminal Court - if the will was there to do it.

Although in most cases the purpose of the farm murders is robbery - which the South African government is always keen to emphasize - the large amount of “overkill” committed and the abounding brutality involved speaks of other, racial motives.  Mr. Lukas Swart has written a book in which he explains in detail how these farm murders (plaasaanvalle in Afrikaans) are prepared and what the farmer can do to prevent greater harm (in Afrikaans).  But discussing this here goes beyond the scope of my present essay.

For how long will the White farmers’ nightmare in South-Africa continue?  Until the last one has gone?  The answer is surely that the worst is yet to come.  It may not happen till far into the future.  But if and when it does, it will look much like the situation in Robert Mugabe’s Zimbabwe today.

Indeed, the ANC “geniuses” have now decided that the SA Commando System - a system that has proven its merits since 1715 and the Boers’ last line of defence against the South African crime syndicates will be – phased out by 2009.  The South African police doesn’t have the resources to take over the job, a fact well know to the South African government.  There is simply no other available explanation but that “it” fits the ANC’s land redistribution plans.

As in Zimbabwe, though, white commercial farmers produce the food for the rest of their 44 million compatriots.  If those farmers are liquidated, the rest of South Africa and other parts of southern Africa will die with them.  The present ANC leaders don’t want to understand this.  But the Boer genocide may yet become the name attributed to the death of millions … if not by murder, then by starvation.

To fully understand the farm murder syndrome it should be placed in a larger South African context.  In South Africa, a new apartheid system founded on race is being installed.  South Africa has already imposed racial quotas that deny work to most young Afrikaners, whether or not they have the right diploma (albeit in Afrikaans, here is a letter of protest to President Mbeki).

Mbeki’s programme of Black Economic Empowerment, as it is called, is commonly dubbed in Afrikaans regstellende aksie (literally “rectifying action”, which we know as Affirmative Action).  Thousands of ANC civil servants in South Africa intimidate and politicise private enterprises to engage blacks instead of whites (and browns, let it be said).  “Progress” plans are implemented, fines and other sanctions imposed.

This is nothing less than the intentional impoverishment of the Afrikaner minority.  In most cases it’s an unqualified or even illiterate black who gets the job (in Afrikaans).  The only choice left open to whites is emigration or begging. 

The SA government is unwilling or, perhaps, unable to understand that any society which fosters criteria other than merit will impoverish as a whole.

Afrikaner people do complain (in Afrikaans)  about paying the bulk of the taxes and getting nothing in return, about the jobs advertised with exclusion formulas, about all the new system’s injustices.  There have been loud complaints about Labour Minister Membathisi Mdladlana, who recently mocked their plight in parliament to amuse his colleagues.  It didn’t amuse many Afrikaners, who don’t understand why, in this rainbow nation, their children must suffer in another apartheid system.  Others wonder how long this new system will last … centuries perhaps?  Yet others look beyond the ANC propaganda and see Black Economic Empowerment as, simply, the new ANC term for black racism.

But apart from the Afrikaner victims, does anyone else care?  Does anyone else actually protest?  Last year Archbishop Desmond Tutu criticised Black Economic Empowerment in South Africa, but only because it enriches such a small minority of already powerful blacks.  That it also impoverishes the white minority because they are white surpasses even his legendary moral indignation.  And the Afrikaner intellectuals?  Most hope not to lose their own jobs.  By that they effectively condone the new black apartheid system -  playing, in an objective sense, the same role as the Judenräte once played under the Nazi regime.

Certainly, don’t expect demonstrations from angry Afrikaners.  All those who cast doubt on Black Economic Empowerment are immediately cast down as racists.  And beneath that lurks a more sinister possibility.  The South African government itself suffers from a persecution complex.  Earlier this month the country was engulfed in riots in the crime-ridden townships.  These were strange echoes of the anti-white-apartheid riots of the 1980s.  The government’s response?  It called in the National Intelligence Agency to investigate whether a “secret force” was somehow orchestrating events.  Absolutely no possibility that its own actions might be contributing to the restlessness of the poor can exist.

For all that, replacing the 35,000 commercial South African farmers by blacks is more complicated for the government than just imposing job quotas in industry and commerce.  The farmers are landowners, you see.  They have a special link with their territory.

This the authorities are doing whatever they can to undermine.  In addition to the SAHRC‘s endorsement of the withdrawal of commandos from rural areas, it has banned the term (pdf)  farm attacks from the SA Rural Protection Plan for being politically incorrect (see page 191).  In their view there are no farm attacks, only “murders”.  The link to the land is denied.

There is also the alarming fact that the South African Government is currently making an inventory of South Africa’s farmers along racial lines:-

“To enable the government to monitor the patterns of land ownership as it implements land reform, the deeds registration system would be improved to reflect nationality, race and gender of land owners.

And then in the background there has recently been legislation to make it possible for the government to expropriate assets on a summary basis – no necessity to apply in advance to a court.

The final thrust may be coming shortly from the South African Constitutional Review Joint Committee.  The ANC is quietly rewriting the South African Constitution behind closed doors without giving any clue as to their intentions.  This doesn’t inspire much confidence either, does it?

Slowly but surely it is becoming clear that the South African commercial farmers are enclosed in a deadly trap, as if they were insects.  Yet the world stays silent and is, by that silence, complicit.

What can MR readers do?  Mail the International Criminal Court at .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address), I suppose.  But the chances of having any impact are surely limited.  I would rather ask readers to contact their representatives in the USA, Britain and Australia; urging them to care as much for the white victims of racism in South Africa as they did for the blacks during the apartheid years.  I would urge them to think about how they can save the lives which, without firm action, will certainly be lost in the future, as they have been lost in the past.  I would urge them to recommend motions in parliament advising the SA government not to abolish the SA rural Commando System for purely ideological reasons.

I would urge them to make it clear to the South African government that the international community is watching them closely, and that government actions exposing the white farmers to fatal risk will be interpreted as a crime against mankind.  I would urge them to be morally consistent.  Tell the South African government that driving an ethnic minority into a corner is, in fact, a variant of ethnic cleansing. Then at least they won’t later be able to claim, “Wir haben es nicht gewusst”.

Posted by Johan Van Vlaams on Sunday, June 26, 2005 at 05:46 AM in World Affairs
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Posted by john fitzgerald on June 26, 2005, 07:50 AM | #

We all know what needs to be done but with the scum now in power in the west
our hands are tied. But maybe our time will come. A lot depends on how much longer U.S.A. lasts.
It wouldn’t take long to bring them to heel, I’d guess a few weeks using mercs with a national army as back-up.
The whites there now, if they can hold on, might well be the beginning of of a new Africa.

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Posted by Geoff M. Beck on June 26, 2005, 10:43 AM | #

Thankyou for bringing this information forward.

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Posted by Kubilai on June 26, 2005, 12:57 PM | #

This is a travesty and the accomplices should be tried before a World court and then hung until dead for not only allowing innocent people to be murdered, but also planting the seeds of some warped “justifiable reaction” to apartheid as the sole cause of the misery of Black Africans and essentially promoting this genocide.

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Posted by Marty on June 26, 2005, 02:39 PM | #

Sad. But I don’t see how this is any worse than what was done to French Algerians, the Belgians of Congo, the Portuguese of Angola and Mozambique…

All these peoples were violently forced off lands which their ancestors had occupied for generations, often centuries, with the open approval and encouragement of the US and British governments

If Boers and Rhodesians think their own plights will elicit a different reaction, they’re likely to be disappointed

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Posted by Hektor on June 29, 2005, 05:10 AM | #

Good effort you are making. But I would avoid any “Holocaust”-like association. As it is actually known to well-informed people that it is propaganda utilized for political and financial reasons.

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Posted by Guessedworker on June 29, 2005, 07:04 AM | #

it is actually known to well-informed people that it is propaganda utilized for political and financial reasons.

I agree that “genocide” is a difficult term to pin down, and there may be a certain inflation in claims of Boer genocide now.  If “well-informed people” think that is indeed the case I would be intrigued to know who they are and on what they base their judgement.  Can you expand on your statement, Hektor?

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Posted by Braveheart on August 11, 2005, 03:27 AM | #

See also: http://majorityrights.com/index.php/weblog/comments/1285/

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Posted by Adriana Stuijt on August 16, 2005, 08:37 AM | #

Aids, South Africa,  US National Security and the CIA
by Adriana Stuijt, http://www.stigtingafrikanerasielsoekers.info .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)

August 16 2005 - WASHINGTON, DC, USA—Aids now threatens the entire world, but in 1987, the US security establishment already wrote in secret reports that South Africa was facing collapse because of it. This comes to light in the important report written this month by the Pulitzer-prize winning US journalist Laurie Garrett:
Garrett’s report, located on http://www.cfr.org/pdf/HIV_National_Security.pdf revea,ls that the CIA had already warned in an unpublished study in 1987 that HIV/Aids would ‘have a serious destabilizing effect on sub-Saharan Africa” - and especially South Africa.

This secret CIA report had warned that “without intervention, much of the region might devolve into civil wars, unrest, and downward economic spirals.”

Yet in spite of this dire warning from their own security service, the US government in 1994 still decided to “peacefully” replace the Afrikaner-run government of South Africa—the only self-sufficient, peaceful, well-run, first-run country on the entire African continent—with an ANC-run government, i.e. South Africa’s peaceful, well-run and reasonably fraud-free government of 11 years ago, was suddenly replaced by a group of exceedingly greedy, black-racist Xhosa-terrorists who have always denied the very existence of Aids…

And the US supported this…

The US National Intelligence Council also predicted in its “Global Trends 2015” report that “Aids and malaria alone will reduce gross domestic product in major sub-Saharan African countries by 20 percent or more by 2010”, ... “Africa will experience enormous population impacts that could directly alter security such as in “South Africa… the population is projected to drop from 43.4 million in 2000 to 38.7 million in 2015.”

HIV will “hurt prospects for transition to democratic regimes as they undermine civil society, hamper the evolution of sound political and economic institutions and intensify the struggle for power and resources…” warned the US National Intelligence Council…

US presidential candidate Senator John Kerry (D-MA) asserted that countries hard-hit by HIV, ‘could well become the home basis for terrorists or criminal elements looking for a safe haven, or even for those trading in weapons of mass destruction.”

Indeed, the above assessments, published in Laurie’s 2005 report, were proven highly accurate and are turning into reality in South Africa today.

Undoubtedly mostly due to the Aids epidemic which is steadily killing off much of the Xhosa-run leadership, the entire country is now also being plunged into incredible turmoil, with its defence- and police forces suffering from massive Aids infections and unable to protect the population from South Africa’s vast number of criminal gangs, many with international crime links ranging as far afield as China, Colombia, the Middle East and Nigeria.

The current black political leadership, comprised of Xhosa-tribalist elitists—and who all have free access to free antiretroviral medication - is embroiled in increasingly violent struggles which can no longer be ignored as even the lowest-level ANC-members now are killing each other off in the battle for the best jobs.

And caught in the middle of this terrifying carnage is the small ethnic-European minority of South Africa which ran it so well only a decade earlier, the Afrikaners.

Afrikaner families are not only being targetted by a constant stream of heavily-armed criminal murderer/rapist gangs everywhere they live, but also face the fact that the Xhosa-leadership has also turned at least 450,000 of the 3-million Afrikaners into homeless destitutes within just ten years with a vast array of “racial purity” laws which bars Afrikaners from participating in any kind of self-supporting activity.
Even the best-educated Afrikaners are being barred, by a vast array of racial-purity laws, from accessing most of the South African labour market, and are specifically being barred from land ownership only because they are “whites”.

At the most recent land summit, the ANC-regime has made it very clear that Afrikaner landowners are staring expropriation in the face.

It now no longer matters whether Afrikaners are seen to willingly “cooperate with land-reform’ or not - Afrikaner-owned land in the cities and in the countryside alike, will be expropriated and given to blacks, many from other parts of Africa.

And with Afrikaners now increasingly being kicked out of their homes and jobs - their only future is destitution and disenfranchisement.

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Posted by Adriana Stuijt on August 16, 2005, 08:46 AM | #

“Genocide” -

the world’s top expert on the subject of genocide, the American legal expert Dr Gregory Stanton of the International Campaign to Prevent Genocide, warned in 2002 that a “Boer Genocide” was very close. He used to term “genocide” quite specifically in his report, which is located on http://www.genocidewatch.org/BoersSlain01.htm He al.so elaborated on this term in relation to the Boer/Afrikaner nation’s current plight in subsequent TV interviews, among others on the documentary “A Bloody Harvest” and which interview can be seen on the internet via the front page of the website http://groups.msn.com/censorbugbear

Dr Stanton has been investigating genocides since the Pol-Pot horror in Cambodia. We believe that if he feels justified in using the term “Boer Genocide”, it would be difficult to argue. He writes that just because the number of people involved are relatively small when compared to the rest of the population (there are only 3-million Afrikaners) this does not mean that a genocide cannot occur.

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Posted by Zamboonian on August 26, 2005, 02:01 AM | #

I’ve been enjoying the joys of a REAL civil society for the past 4 months, living in Canada, on a 2 year work permit. The absence of burglar bars in general adds to the sense of safety here. I find it bizarre that I’ve accepted the ‘siege mentality’ as normal, that one has to adopt in South Africa.

I’ve experienced living in South West Africa during the Angolan Conflict, then relocating to South Africa when SWAPO were given the country on a silver platter.

Unfortunately I have to agree with the message conveyed via this website… it truly has become dangerous living in South Africa. Whether it be urban or rural living. I found the daily need to be mentally aware of one’s surroundings too taxing. My past experiences in South West Africa paled in comparison to the very real threat of crime / violence I’ve experienced AND SURVIVED as the years moved further and futher away from 1994.

I very much welcomed the ‘changing of the guard’ in ‘94… but by 1998 I started realizing the extent of the changes.

Affirmative Action has only led to confusion - how does it fit in with the notion of ‘The Rainbow Nation’? Am I welcome in South Africa, or not? I would appreciate a straight answer.

In closing I can add my definite support to many of the views expressed on majorityrights.com and find it unfathomable that since the 1994 elections the situation for all races have deteriorated.

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Posted by Winston Z on October 08, 2005, 02:05 PM | #

Ek glo ons moet hierdie bloedstorting sien as ‘n wakkerskrik, dat ons nie ons geskiedenis moet vergeet nie, en op internasionale standaard moet stry vir ons taal, en wie ons is apart van apartheid.

I believe this bloodshed should be seen as a wake-up, that we musn’t forget our history, and we must negotiate at international standard for our language, and who we are, outside scope of apartheid.

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Posted by Jan Nieuwenhuizen on January 08, 2006, 12:23 PM | #

A bit late in the response as we usually are, you see we lived under oppression for decades before we moved in an orderly fashion called “Die Groot Trek” after this we where interned into concentration camps and disenfranchised we lost 27,000.00 Burgers in these camps (by the by only 2000 of these where adults). We bought our land the same way the Americans and Australians bought their`.
The difference is we did not want to speak English and we did not kill everyone who stood in our way nor did we make our landlords alcoholics by kicking crates of whiskey of our wagons and poisoning their drinking water or handing out blankets ridden with smallpox after we killed thier livelyhood.
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No we did none of that and if those “well informed people” use their infinite and rounded knowledge they would know that the Boer nation was not the only ones who where interned in concentration camps but so where the farm workers brown, black, pink and yellow. And in 1914 the Boers where shown they have no autonomy when they where imprisoned by the Afrikaner troops because the Boer would not fight the Germans in Namibia.

So you see hardship is not new, development is not hard, being left alone and being a bit backwards is sometimes a blessing but be aware we will only suffer for decades and we have nowhere to trek too.

Finally when you tuck your kids in tonight you can tell them the story of Annie Winterbach, she was in the Bloemfontein concentration camp in 1902 when her little 3 year old brother Jannie died lucky for their family the British officers did not like the way the Bloemfontein town hall floor boards performed when danced upon so they replaced the old boards Boer hands laid for a Boer Republic and they very honorably sold these boards to the concentration camp families so they could burry their beloved children.

Baie Dankie

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on January 08, 2006, 01:39 PM | #

We in the U.S. have had forty-five million non-whites rammed down our throats in the past twenty-five years including twenty-two million Mexican illegals no one wanted but Bush insisted on letting in for some strange perverted reason no one understands—and we can’t get three million Boers out of the ANC South African hellhole at U.S. government expense, Boers who are our color, our kin, our co-religionists, and the most decent, hard-working, productive, salt-of-the-earth folk?  We spend how many tens of billions-with-a-B every year on non-white legal and illegal immigrants brought in to race-replace whites and we can’t spend what it would take to bring these whites here who are being genocided where they stand, and support them till they learn the language and make a new start?  We can’t do that, because of post-modern anti-Caucasian political realities?  Alright then, at least let’s give them foreign aid and a flow of armaments to survive, defend themselves, and carve out their own white country down there on land that was empty when they settled it three-and-a-half centuries ago—land which they took from no one.  It’s theirs. 

We can’t do that for these people?  Why are they being abandoned?  Alright then, I don’t want to hear of anyone else’s genocide—because there’s a Boer genocide going on right now and no one in the white countries of the world cares about it.  On the contrary, lots of them are actually cheering it on.  When I hear about the Holocaust from now on I’m going to plug my ears—I don’t want to listen to hypocrisy, sorry. 

The people in white countries running things in this way may have forgotten that the wheel turns, and when it does ... well, let’s leave it at that, shall we?  It shouldn’t be too hard to guess the rest ...

No one told us when everyone was celebrating the ANC take-over that genocide of the Boers was part of the deal ...  When you think about it, there’s actually a worldwide pattern of this sort of treatment of whites either wished for, or in the planning stages, or actually taking place right now as we speak.  (And in the other thread you get this chap who’s seen Britain’s future in today’s London, been shocked by it, yet still is finicky about voting for the BNP, the ones who can keep that future from happening ...)

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Posted by JOHN SMITH on March 14, 2006, 08:26 AM | #

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Posted by Salahuddin Al Ayubbi on April 17, 2006, 02:43 AM | #

To Fred Scrooby,i think your view about 45m non whites & mexican illegal immigrants is just like the neo-nazis & whites so call supremacists view of the KKK.Why you whites are so worried?If you people claims to invent the whole technology for the benefits of mankind,i am sure there are non whites who contribute as well,only they did not boast like you whites people do.I had read view by the KKK & Nazis,although i did not support their ideology,but some of it is true.Its so hard in this days and age of technology,there still exists white people who always claim to be whites is bright,the west is bright.If my english is poor,i had no apology cause english is not my mother tongue.It is true the majority crimes commit in USA are by the blacks people.But this blacks people are different from blacks muslim.Just look at ANC rules at South Africa.Are they muslims?No,the answer you know yourself.I think the only solution for the so call whites Boer is either they migrate in large numbers to western nation or had a separate country of their own in South Africa.Lets the blacks ANC ruled the blacks of South Africa by themselves whether success or failure.In that case,nobody will hurt anybody anymore.I did not think racism had any benefits for mankind in this 21st century.But if i look at the non muslims blacks contribution to mankind,i think it is the lowest achivement compare to other non whites.And only in english there exists terminology such as coloured,brown,whites,brown etc.What for?If not to justify racism.

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Posted by Eric on April 21, 2006, 05:06 AM | #

more can be read here http://www.sabingo.za.net/nuke/modules.php?name=News&file=categories&op=newindex&catid=19

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Posted by j mchugh on April 01, 2007, 07:35 PM | #

I have a very close friend who is an Afrikaner emigre in England. Because of her I have investigated the situation in SA.

As a student of history, my advice to Afrikaners is to get out. You are as doomed as the white farmers in Zimbabwe. Perhaps you are too close to see, but from this distance it couldn’t be more clear. There is a tidal wave heading your direction, and nothing will stop it. There is no escaping the ultimate outcome, which will be either genocide or mass pauperizaton and emigration at gunpoint.

If you care deeply about preserving your culture, the only option is to create enclaves in either Australia or the United States. Perhaps that is not practical. In that case, save yourself and your family. Liquidate any any assets you have and move to one of those places. Never mind the loss you take on those assets - to the extent they are in the form of realproperty they are doomed anyway.

BTW, I am not a racist. My heart goes out to the black Africans who are doomed in another way, to live in hopeless kleptocracies run by and for gangs of thugs. I can’t do a damned thing for them, though, and they don’‘t care what I think. No reason for you to care, either, but perhaps someone might appreciate a dispassionate view from afar.

Best wishes, and sorry for the gloominess of this epistle, but it’s the truth that’s gloomy, my friends.

JM

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Posted by Kendall Pieterse on June 21, 2007, 06:15 AM | #

I am living in South Africa at the moment… I am an english speaking white south african..  i agree…whites need to get out of South africa… genocide is happening all around us…  Truthfully i have only recently become well aware of the genocide on boer farmers and i Live here.

That shows you how much the media is so limited by the government to let these incidents be known by other south africans.  I have vaguely heard about it, that they want the land from the farmers but i haven’t heard about the terrible murders of boer farmers.

Most whites have immigrated back overseas, some to New Zealand, Austrailia, USA, England.  The problem is is that these countries make it so hard for you to immigrate.  You work on a point system or you have to have birth certificates of your mothers mothers and granny’s mothers etc. enabling you to get some sort of ancestral visa..  come on .... we white aren’t we and we have white surnames, should that not be enough to allow us back into our ancestors countries of origin?

Look i believe that this country does belong to the blacks, it is there country.  Whites DON’T belong here.  We all where placed in certain parts of the world then of course our ancestors had to get itchy feet and go shipping off all over the world and intrude on other countries. 

I blame our ancestors for putting us here and now their countries of origin make it very difficult for us to go back.

Please… countries need to help these boer farmers and this is just the start of it… i believe the killing off of white people here is going to get worse.  We need to start getting out now while we still can.

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Posted by PF on June 21, 2007, 02:15 PM | #

Look i believe that this country does belong to the blacks, it is there country.

Each country belongs to it’s strongest tribe, that’s natures law.

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Posted by lorraine on November 11, 2007, 04:24 AM | #

Whites should not have been there to start with.it is not their country.

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Posted by Lurker on November 11, 2007, 03:19 PM | #

“Whites should not have been there to start with.it is not their country.”

Lorraine, if thats your view then we have to be consistent. I wont be expecting a squeak out of you if the US decides to deport every non-white or Europe does the same. Youre happy with that? Good. Or do I hear the sound of a double standard rumbling into place.

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Posted by ben tillman on November 11, 2007, 03:41 PM | #

South Africa was essentially unpopulated when Europeams arrived.  The blacks who are there are there because whites made it possible for them to live there.

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Posted by Adriana Stuijt on January 04, 2009, 05:42 AM | #

My contact details have changed. The Afrikaner Asylum seekers’ organisation has disbanded because the personal costs just got too high. I still maintain the Boer genocide statistics on the following two data bases: http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com  and http://afrikaner-genocide-achives.blogspot.com The MSN Groups website http://groups.msn.com/crimebustersofsouthafrica archives with their more than 600 members, will disappear from the internet in February—because MSN has decided to close them all down. We thus have lost the entire membership which worked so hard to maintain these archives since 2001. We have now transferred all those archives and they can be accessed without having to become members. I can be directly contacted at .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) or telephoned in The Netherlands at 31 519-701266.

A committee is now being formed in The Netherlands with an eye to formulate and lodge genocide charges and human-rights violation charges in The Hague against specific South African leaders. Anyone with legal experience who would be able to donate precise documentation is welcome to write me. Also very welcome would be FIRST-person accounts from victims of farm attacks, preferably with copies of police dockets, photographs etc. and also a description of the aftermath of such attacks, i.e. did you lose your land and income, did you lose jobs, how many people you ‘d had in your employ have lost their jobs as a result, etc.

I urge everyone everywhere to please help us in formulating these charges. Please send us as much VERIFIABLE documentation as you can, preferably with the documentation from police investigations etc, and court cases, copied for our files.

Ons moet almal saamstaan en hierdie manier is ‘n wettige manier om terug te baklei!

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Posted by Guest on January 04, 2009, 09:37 PM | #

I used to be such a romantic about Rhodesia and South Africa. I had longed to live there. In fact when a friend went to Rhodesia to fight the terrs I envied him. Sadly he lost his life to a landmine and in one sense he never had to suffer the disappointment, the appalling reality of the beautiful land handed over to the black marxists. When South Africa joined with the English and the Americans in destroying Rhodesia I scarcely could credit it. Yet it did happen.

I had been so impressed how those immaculately uniformed Boer and English SA Policemen were able to keep a lid on that nations creatures. Then something happened.
Years of Jews like Helen Suzman, the Oppenheimers, Joe Slovo, and the SABC and the newspapers took their toll.

Perhaps. Perhaps the genetic stock had become tainted, degraded over the years, like American whites.  In any event in 1994 Whites voted their own genocide in RSA.

Just as 45% of the whites in America did in November 2008.

This is about evolution.

Whites of our view grew up in the same milieu as the lemming whites yet we can see reality where they cannot.

Studies on twins have demonstrated that politics is GENETIC. I believe this to be the case.

Out of this threshing will be a new species an AWARE White community.
THEN we can begin, but not until the chaff is consumed by the hordes. They are food, prey, waiting for the predators they so love and admire.

The villains are not the Jew, nor the black, etc., no it is those amongst us who collaborated, who embraced, who identified with the White genocide.

Traitors are the enemy, ultimately, otherwise our people could NOT HAVE FALLEN.

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Posted by Ryder on January 04, 2009, 10:12 PM | #

Traitors are the enemy, ultimately, otherwise our people could NOT HAVE FALLEN.


Yep, that’s about the size of it.  That’s certainly true of the active traitors amongst the leadership, the ones who eagerly and aggressively seek to dispossess their own people.  Ted Kennedy, et al. 

As for the general run of white idiot, the typical Kwan, things are a little less certain.  On the one hand, these people lived for generations without mixing with non-whites.  Many of the white trash that mix with blacks and mestizos descend from families that were ardent segregationists.  Grandpa was solid, but Cassie the Race Mixing Slut is not.  So, clearly, culture and propaganda can have a big effect.  No doubt about it. 

BUT, but… I still can’t shake the idea that some of it is genetic.  There may well be a strain of whites that are fine as long as social institutions are strong and provide them with clear and positive standards to uphold.  Under such conditions, they can thrive and be real assets to their people.  But it seems that when those solid conditions are broken down, as in the Kwa, some people are much more susceptible to race mixing than others.  Some jump the fence very, very quickly.  Like you, I suspect that there is a real genetic component (I also suspect that there are other components as well, such as broken families, crummy fathers, and what not). 

Over the eons, whites have been able to survive the predations of wild beasts and of nature itself.  Today the threats aren’t wolves or harsh winters, but MTV and public school indoctrination.  Why are some whites more immune to these threats than others?  The white slut that we see on the streets had ancestors that survived and thrived in the harshest conditions, fending off everything from wolf packs to Mongol hordes.  Yet she gets taken down by MTV?  Again, it seems likely to be at least in part genetic.  I’m increasingly persuaded that a large segment of whites are simply not built to survive the new threats of our age.  It’s sad that a family line that survived the harshness of history ends up getting taken down by Summner Redstone, but there you have it.  Different environment, different threats, and some people just aren’t built to survive it. 

If this is the case, what we are witnessing is a culling of the herd.  The weak, those most susceptible to alien propaganda, will fall by the wayside and be absorbed into the non-white masses.  Those that are left will be a stronger genetic strain. 

That’s the good news.  The bad news is that social conditioning is powerful, and just as positive social conditioning allowed the grandparents and earlier ancestors of today’s race mixing trash to live decent lives, it likely can get strong enough, given enough generations, to overcome even the stronger strain of whites. 

This is why we need to make real progress SOON.  The whites that have already fallen off the earth?  Good riddance to bad rubbish.  But if things go on too much longer, it’s going to start cutting into more and more good stock.  And the end result of that, of course, is complete marginalization and then extinction.  In sum: there is some good news here, but it should in no way lead to complacency.  We need to get some momentum going.

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Posted by Ryder on January 04, 2009, 10:21 PM | #

The villains are not the Jew, nor the black, etc., no it is those amongst us who collaborated, who embraced, who identified with the White genocide

Just to clarify a point that I failed to make in the previous post: any people that are hostile to whites ARE villans.  But it is the white traitor and the clueless white idiot that allows these villains to triumph.  More about that in my post above.

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Posted by Ex ISKCON robot on January 04, 2009, 10:58 PM | #

Whites should leave South Africa.  They have no business being there in the first place.

That being said, the exit should be aided and faciliated via peaceful Kumbaya style means.

I do not condone violence, but we know that life is not fair.

My condolences to the family members of the victims.  I’m surprised most of them have not packed up and left by now.  What are they hanging around for?  More of the same?

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Posted by Guest on January 05, 2009, 01:47 AM | #

Ryder you made excellent points. I do, of course, as you also, realize that our race DOES have the enumerated enemies. However as both of our statements also express those enemies would not be capable of defeating the White race save for the enemies having a 5th Column amongst our own people.  These are indeed dark times and it is FATE that will determine it ultimately.

We need our people to infiltrate the citadel of the enemies and of the traitors.
We also need a miracle.
A man against time.

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Posted by Sarah Briggs, white durban resident on January 15, 2009, 11:54 AM | #

You are all insane.  hopefully those of you who currently live in South Afica, will shortly emigrate and leave real south african to build our nationa. meanwhile, you are all doing a good job of upholding the USA image of being ignorant and prejudiced… God Bless America

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Posted by Lurker on January 15, 2009, 12:31 PM | #

Sarah, don’t even know whether to believe you. You tenuous grasp of English makes me suspicious, white South Africans usually seem well educated to me. Furthermore, why do you think everyone here is from the USA? That lack of comprehension is also suspicious.

Anyhow if you are what you say you are, you are only fooling yourself.

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Posted by Sarah on January 16, 2009, 12:43 PM | #

Dear Lurker

I am a white African - bet that blows your mind.  Believe me.  So you can put your paranoia away, I am not a black person masquerading as a white person in order to converse with white supremacists.  Although, imagine if I was…?  Oh my God, the enemy are EVERYWHRE!!! You white supremacists must have difficulty getting to sleep at night, what with the constant terror you evidently feel. 

As for the American issue… well, if you’re not from the USA then my apologies.  To the USA, obviously.

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Posted by Lurker on January 16, 2009, 01:04 PM | #

I am a white African - bet that blows your mind.

Not really, you can say it, doesnt make it true. We are talking about race here, not nationality, ultimately though blacks aren’t going let you use that self-classification are they.

I am not a black person masquerading as a white person

It had crossed my mind.

in order to converse with white supremacists

I’m not sure that everyone here would classify themselves as a supremacist, though white people do have an embarrassing large amount to be supremacist about.

what with the constant terror you evidently feel

I wouldn’t say terror. Grim foreboding perhaps. The west is falling apart and we are assailed both from without and within. Clearing up the mess wont be pleasant. The blacks, hispanics, muslims etc we can deal with like just that when the time comes, just a technicality really. Well behaved asians I dont think represent a problem either, they are pragmatic and will just go with the flow. Its the other internal elements Jews and the traitors like your good self, I think thats where the heartache will be.

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Posted by Lurker on January 16, 2009, 01:28 PM | #

Sarah, I take it this you in the comments, quite the little ANC parrot arent we.

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Posted by realist on January 16, 2009, 02:54 PM | #

Sarah is either a black, mixed, married to or has family who are black, young ideologue, or a real liberal idiot. 

She cannot, in good faith, defend the complete collapse of SA and claim it is better than before as many blacks yearn for the old days.  She’s either an idiot or a liar. 

Maybe she can tell us how things are so much better, in her opinion…oh, here is a blurb from lurker’s link:

The current government is far from perfect & could definitely improve, but it has delivered a great deal (houses, water, equality, etc)

LOL Houses are on par with water and “equality”?  For sure a liar or an idiot.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on January 16, 2009, 03:07 PM | #

Good pick-up, Lurker.  It must indeed be the same Sarah. 

Durban, by the way, is become like Detroit:  from all reports, unfit for white habitation.  It used to be a garden spot. 

So did Detroit.

Sarah, are you in a mixed-race marriage or relationship, or have you mixed-race children?

We know Sarah can’t be Jewish because 1) Jews just like to inflict race-replacement on Euros, they don’t actually like to continue dwelling in race-replaced neighborhoods their diabolical activities have created, and 2) after forcing race-replacement on South Africa’s Euros all the Jews promptly cleared out, departing for Israel, Britain, Australia, the States, etc.  Jews just want to totally ruin a place, they don’t want to live in a place after they’re totally ruined it and made it unfit for human (i.e., H. sapiens sapiens) habitation.  So we know Sarah isn’t Jewish.
______

By the way, on a different topic:  How can I be certain that I’m ignorant and stupid?  I can be certain of it thanks to this, which I just saw at the TimesOnline site:

“If you think that it’s all right to call someone a Paki you’re ignorant or stupid”
—Murad Ahmed

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on January 16, 2009, 03:08 PM | #

I hadn’t seen “realist’s” letter just above mine; I agree with it one hundred percent.

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Posted by Sarah Briggs, white durban resident on January 16, 2009, 03:16 PM | #

No Lurker, it must be a different Sarah - what do you know, I’m not the only one! Oh dear, there goes your theory…. incidentally, I think you need to re-examine your setreotypes - black does not = ANC and vice versa.  I suggest you understand your topic fully before you make statements.  If you’re going to be a bigot, at least be a knowledgeable bigot.

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Posted by sarah on January 16, 2009, 03:19 PM | #

Again, not my link - but I support the comments.  By the way, Fred, none of your assumptions about my ethnic heritage, family relationships or philosiphies are true… I guess your stereotypes just don’t equipped you to win this argument.  Care to guess again?

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Posted by sarah on January 16, 2009, 03:20 PM | #

Oh Lurker, now you’re googling my name?  May I suggest you get a hobby?

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on January 16, 2009, 03:23 PM | #

Don’t come into my country, Murad Ahmed, and tell me what I can or can’t call you.  In my country I’ll decide what I’ll call you, especially if it’s a perfectly polite nickname like “Paki” — nothing wrong with that word whatsoever — and if you don’t like it you can go home.  My country is like my house.  I call the shots in my house, not guests.  You don’t like that?  There’s the door.  Moreover, English is my language, not yours.  I won’t go into your country and presume to tell you what to do, whom to like, or how to talk; don’t you come into mine and do it, please.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on January 16, 2009, 03:28 PM | #

“Fred, none of your assumptions about my ethnic heritage, family relationships or philosiphies are true”  (—Sarah)

Well thanks, dear — that narrows things down to “realist’s” conclusions then:

“For sure a liar or an idiot.”

That’s a help.  Mystery solved!

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Posted by sarah on January 16, 2009, 03:30 PM | #

Um, Fred…. You do realise you are posting to someone, Murad Ahmed, who WILL NEVER READ WHAT YOU SAY?  Now, does that make sense?

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Posted by Sarah on January 16, 2009, 03:39 PM | #

Dear Realist

Unfortunately for your theory, I am none of those things.  In fact, I have a completely white, Afrikaner heritage and so does my husband, and we have a 100% Afrikaans surname.. in fact, I bet I speak Afrikaans better than you do, as I attended an Afrikaans school.  I am like thousands of other white and black Afrikaaners who don’t feel so insecure about themesleves that fear in the form of racism is the foundation of their identity.

So, my suggestion is that you educate yourself about why Apartheid never worked - I suggest you read a book called Hard Right about the political and economic realities of the right wing in South Africa - and then come back and have an intelligent discussion with me instead of spouting brainless rhetoric.

Something else that affects your argument - until you get some Afrikaans credentials, don’t presume to make comments about Afrikaners - verstaan jy, boet?

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on January 16, 2009, 03:42 PM | #

That’s all right, dear, maybe someone will e-mail it to him.

By the way, how do you keep from being raped?  Do you have to wear one of those contraptions, worn internally by the woman, that lacerate the Negro’s dick, which we saw in the news not too long ago when the inventer put out a press release?  Do you judge that to be a civilised way for women to live, having to put one of those things “in” whenever they go out?

And how do you keep from getting car-jacked?  Is your car equipped with a set of those sideways-shooting flame throwers we also saw advertized, that dissuade Negroes from jacking your car when it’s stopped for a red light?  Pretty expensive to have to always buy a car with that installed, no?  The dick-lacerator, the side-ways flame thrower, and what else do you need to survive in Durban?

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Posted by Dave Johns on January 16, 2009, 04:14 PM | #

Question: Why do sadomasochistic sickos like Sarah love living under their new openly-anti-white government?

Answer: Because they’re sadomasochistic sickos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFj0HdW2iDs

Pukebag manufacturers just love “people” like Sarah.

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Posted by realist on January 16, 2009, 05:42 PM | #

Dear sarah,

Denial is not only a river in Africa, is it?

Unfortunately, the facts betray your words. 

Demographics

Black Africans account for 68.30 percent of the population, followed by Asians or Indians at 19.90 percent, Whites at 8.98 percent and Coloureds at 2.89 percent. 48.9 percent of the population is under the age of 24, while 4.2 percent are over the age of 65. The median age in the city is 25 years old, and for every 100 females, there are 92.5 males. 27.9 percent of city residents are unemployed. 88.6 percent of the unemployed are black, 18.3 percent are Coloureds, 8.2 percent are Asians or Indians, and 4.4 percent are White.[5]

CRIME: 

Although the vast majority of visitors complete their travels in South Africa without incident, visitors should be aware that criminal activity, often violent, occurs routinely.  Notwithstanding government anti-crime efforts, violent crimes such as armed robbery, carjacking, mugging, “smash and grab” attacks on vehicles, and other incidents are regularly reported by visitors and resident Americans.

Visitors and residents are advised of ongoing criminal activity involving organized crime gangs targeting individuals at shopping centers and other public places.  Once a victim has been identified, he/she is followed back to his/her residence and robbed, usually at gunpoint, although the use of force is generally reserved for those offering some form of resistance.  These gangs tend to target people appearing to be affluent, including those driving expensive cars, wearing eye-catching jewelry, flashing large amounts of cash, and/or making high-value purchases.  Criminals also gravitate towards “soft” targets – people who appear preoccupied and do not pay attention to their immediate surroundings.  Visitors who believe they are being followed should travel directly to a police station or other public location.

Motorists are urged to be extremely cautious when approaching intersections and to hide bags, cell phones, and other valuables from view.  Criminals are on the lookout for valuable items they can see through car windows (see mention of “smash and grab” under traffic safety).  Doors should be kept locked and windows rolled up at all times.

Crimes against property, such as carjacking, have often been accompanied by violent acts, including murder, when victims resist or are slow to respond to attackers’ demands.  South Africa also has the highest incidence of reported rape in the world. Foreigners are not specifically targeted, but several have been the victims of rape.  Victims of violent crime, especially rape, are strongly encouraged to seek immediate medical attention, including antiretroviral therapy against HIV/AIDS.  Questions about how to receive such treatment should be directed to the nearest U.S. Embassy or Consulate.

You were saying you deluded, filthy liar?

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Posted by Captainchaos on January 16, 2009, 07:36 PM | #

Sarah,

I’ll ask you a direct question and I expect a direct answer: Do you support the right of the European peoples to their genetic continuity (their right to exist) and the necessary means to ensure their genetic continuity?  Yes or no?  If “no”, then you are an anti-White genocidalist.

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Posted by Lurker on January 16, 2009, 10:20 PM | #

Capt - I should have mentioned that, sorry for dropping the ball.

So Sarah that wasn’t you in The Times comments. That means there are two Sarah Briggs’ in Durban who are both white sellouts. What are the chances of that…?

Of course one of you could just be using the others name. We know your name isnt really Briggs. Because, as you said:

we have a 100% Afrikaans surname

and Briggs is not an Afrikaner name.

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Posted by sarah on January 16, 2009, 11:45 PM | #

Dear Realist

Everything in that extract you have posted is true.  In what way does that make me a filthy liar?  I am afraid that I fail to see the link.

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Posted by sarah on January 16, 2009, 11:52 PM | #

Dear Captain

Is this a cunning plan to get me to admit that I am not a white supremacist?  I though I had made that clear - or are you just a bit slow on the uptake?  As for genocide, and specifically boer genocide, please bear in mind that you don’t know my views on this issue and you are clearly making assumptions that ONLY a white supremacist can understand the concept of genocide of afrikaaners, and therefore I don’t. Wrong.

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Posted by Sarah on January 16, 2009, 11:57 PM | #

Dear Lurker… sigh.  You really should let this go.  In a city of three million people, where the majority of whites are not racists, the chances of two people with the same name who share the majority view are good.

My married surname is Van der Merwe; the same, coincidentally, as my Grandmother’s maiden name.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on January 16, 2009, 11:59 PM | #

Sarah you are a race-replacement advocate, therefore a supporter of genocide.

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Posted by sarah on January 17, 2009, 12:17 AM | #

One other thing regarding my experiences of crime - I have never been raped, mugged, attacked at home or outside my home, had someone try to hijack me or steal my car when I am not in it. None of these things have ever happened to any of my family or friends.  These terrible things do happen here, but not on the scale you seem to believe.

So, perhaps realist, Lurker, and Captain should come clean about where they live?

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Posted by sarah on January 17, 2009, 12:21 AM | #

Fred, you’re still spouting rhetoric instead of making a rational argument.

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Posted by Lurker on January 17, 2009, 12:31 AM | #

My married surname is Van der Merwe

So why call yourself Sarah Briggs then, which just happens to be the same name of another shrill white sell out in Durban, again, what are the chances…?

According to this, there are only thirteen Briggs listed for Durban, not very scientific I’ll admit but two Sarah Briggs as ANC advocates, your breezy talk of the majority view in Durban doesnt quite add up there does it.

Van der Merwe, is more common in Durban than Briggs, going by the phone book, why didnt you post under that name?

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Posted by Sarah on January 17, 2009, 12:35 AM | #

OH boy…. my maiden name is Briggs, I still use it quite often.  And that is the last thing I am going to say on this frankly silly and off-the-point issue.  So where are you from, Lurker?

P.S. I am not listed in the phone book. Save yourself some effort.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on January 17, 2009, 01:03 AM | #

“P.S. I am not listed in the phone book.  Save yourself some effort.”  (—Sarah)

Don’t worry hun, we don’t look up bimbos in the phone book.

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Posted by Sarah on January 17, 2009, 01:41 AM | #

If you read Lurker’s entry, you’ll see he HAS been looking me up in the phonebook, and has even provided a link to the electronic phonebook for Briggs’ in Durban - so apparently you DO look up people’s names. I think your friend Lurker needs a hobby….

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Posted by realist on January 17, 2009, 02:53 AM | #

Everything in that extract you have posted is true.  In what way does that make me a filthy liar?  I am afraid that I fail to see the link.

Of course it is true, sarah.  Why would I lie?  I have the truth on my side and apparently that makes me racist and a white supremacist.  How odd your logic is.  Should we ignore the truth and use anecdotes in order to show how anti-racist we are, sarah?  Would that make you happy?

You lie because you are the Sarah Briggs in Lurker’s link.  The odds that two people from Durban named Sarah Briggs who roam the net searching for anti-SA attitudes are truly astronomical.  Lucky us!!  No, you are a liar, pure and simple.

You came here appalled at the writings about the Boer genocide and attempted to paint of picture of harmony and non-racist attitudes in SA.  Another lie or wishful thinking at best.  A city with the “highest incidence of reported rape in the world” is just fine and we are to ignore the crime around you because it has not affected you?  I see.  So whatever you have seen or done is now the new standard of what truly is in your world.  That sounds like crazy talk, does it not, Sarah? 

You also mention that you live in a city that has whites and blacks who are non-racist and want to be left alone to improve it.  Improve it from what?  SA was the jewel of Africa a few decades ago.  What caused this rapid decline that you and your black spiritual brethren feel is in need of improvement?

Sarah, you are a fraud.  Worse, you are a complicit genocidalist.  How dare you lecture anyone here, murderer?

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Posted by Sarah on January 17, 2009, 04:01 AM | #

LOL!!!! Listening to you is better than Month Python for hysteria and illogicality.  In fact, I know someone who is just as clever as you are - Julius Malema, ANC youth league president.  Look him up, you’ll see you are two of a kind.

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Posted by Sarah on January 17, 2009, 04:07 AM | #

Sigh… Why would I lie about being Sarah Briggs?  I have already said that I support her views.  I would be proud to have posted that comment.  Once again, you’re not being logical.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on January 17, 2009, 09:04 AM | #

“Why would I lie about being Sarah Briggs?”  (—Sarah)

Dunno ...  Same reason you lie about South Africa being an OK place to live?

(That last letter by “realist” was another great one, by the way.)

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on January 17, 2009, 09:07 AM | #

It’s crystal-clear, btw, that the two Sarah Briggses are one and the same, and this person is lying through her teeth.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on January 17, 2009, 09:08 AM | #

Probably she’s not white.

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Posted by Dave Johns on January 17, 2009, 09:45 AM | #

Definitely she is not normal.

She has one purpose for coming here: that being to rub the ongoing genocide of whites in our face.

And Sarah, what on earth would make you think we would be interested in, or beleive, your obvious lies?

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Posted by sarah on January 17, 2009, 11:07 AM | #

Still no logic, Fred.  Try again.  I’m interested to know, where do you live?  How come you know so much about SA?

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on January 17, 2009, 01:23 PM | #

When you come across as believable I’ll reply to you, Sarah.

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Posted by Lurker on January 17, 2009, 11:23 PM | #

Sarah - I didnt look in the Durban phone book to find you. I did it, as I’m sure must be obvious, to illustrate the relative rarity of Briggs as a surname in that area. I said it wasn’t scientific. An underlying assumption would be that many people are not listed in the phone book, but the rate at which people are listed/unlisted would be around the same for each name.

Taking that assumption on board; we can see, for example, that your married name is 14.5 times more common than Briggs in Durban. Add the first name Sarah and the general paucity of white south africans cheerleading for black rule in SA and…I think you will have a hard time persuading us that other Sarah Briggs isn’t you.

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Posted by Sarah on January 18, 2009, 01:54 AM | #

OK Lurker - so now we know that your statistical analysis is also a bit shaky.  I might add that this sort of behaviour is generally viewed as a bit stalker-like… Are you South African?

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Posted by Sarah on January 18, 2009, 02:03 AM | #

Fred, you are a coward.

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Posted by Captainchaos on January 18, 2009, 02:47 AM | #

Sarah, in your “mind” any claim to White racial solidarity is “supremacism” because, quite frankly, we don’t need non-Whites to maintain a first-world standard of living, but they need us.  So, by keeping what we are capable of producing strictly for ourselves we would be denying non-Whites the fruits of “progress”, and that is a supremacist claim by your lights.  Further, any claim to black supremacism is absurd, unless you consider mud huts to be superior to climate controlled sky scrapers. 

That you coyly evade direct questions put to you by your interlocutors as they earnestly engage is no indication of your cleverness or vindication of your self-perceived feminine wiles; it is a sign of your abject imbecility. 

Now, have you ever fucked a black guy?  I just dying to know.  See?  I can play along.

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Posted by Dave Johns on January 18, 2009, 06:58 AM | #

Hey, I thought I just caught a glimpse of Professor June Gorden, “The Mistress of Sophistry” ... that notorious impostor whose game is to appear on white preservationist websites for the purpose of agitating the commentariat.

But I could be wrong; maybe my vision is a bit fuzzy right now. Afterall, it’s 5:55 am where I am; I just woke up and haven’t had my coffee yet.

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Posted by Guessedworker on January 18, 2009, 09:19 AM | #

According to IP Trace Sarah is legit, Dave.  So let’s ask her a serious question - not about SA but about Europe.

Do native European peoples have the same moral right as the Zulu, Venda, Xhosa, Sotho etc in SA to reclaim control over their political lives and their homelands from a hostile neoliberal/neo-marxist Establishment that is pursuing a policy of native minoritisation and genocide?

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Posted by Lurker on January 18, 2009, 10:26 AM | #

Im not stalking you Sarah, what I’m doing would be obvious to any person of average intelligence. If you cant see that you’re either stupid or being deliberately obtuse.

I’m not from SA, though Ive had English cousins that lived there and I’m of partly Dutch origin so possibly Ive got some distant rels there on that side of the family.

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Posted by Sarah on January 18, 2009, 11:38 AM | #

So…. you’ve never been to SA?  You get all your info off the internet? Do you think that is realistic?

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Posted by Sarah on January 18, 2009, 11:45 AM | #

If one group has a right, then all groups should have it.  I don’t believe that any group has a right to claim superiority over any other - that is morally wrong.  I am sure you don’t agree with me, so don’t waste your time ot mine explaining that you don’t agree with me. 

It also economically and politically unrealistic to think that any country or territory will or can ever again be used or occupied by one exclusive ethnic group.

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Posted by Sarah on January 18, 2009, 11:47 AM | #

Dear Captain Chaos

I don’t remember ever discussing these issues with you or anyone else.  I think you must be arguing with the voices in your head.  Does anyone have any intelligent comments to make?

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Posted by Darren on January 18, 2009, 11:51 AM | #

If one group has a right, then all groups should have it

I have no problem with letting Blacks have Africa, even if it means the whites must leave. But, at the same time, I would insist that Whites have an absolute right to maintain their majorities and their cultural dominance in their own lands (Europe).

It also economically and politically unrealistic to think that any country or territory will or can ever again be used or occupied by one exclusive ethnic group.

Why? Do you seriously believe that modern liberal society will last forever; that it is somehow the exception to the cyclical rise and fall of cultures and civilizations?

I would point you to many examples in Africa and Asia where the idea of mass immigration and racial pluralism are unknown to them and would resist quite strongly any attempts at displacing the majority.

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Posted by Sarah on January 18, 2009, 11:54 AM | #

Captain Chaos

What questions do you think I’ve been avioding, eh?  Please provide a coherent list.  However, I must bear in mind that if my answers don’t match your stereotypes you will simply disbelieve them, so why should I bother to answer?  Another thing I don’t understand - why on earth do you think I’d be lying? What purpose would it serve?

As for my sex life, none of your business; I suggest you try something new and get your own.

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Posted by Sarah on January 18, 2009, 11:58 AM | #

Darren

First point - well you wouls say that, wouldn’t you, otherwise you wouldn’t be disagreeing with me, so thats a no-brainer.

Secondly - history shows us that closed societies that ignore market principles fail - two recent examples are Apartheid and communist USSR.  That’s not a moral issue, that is a fact.

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Posted by Darren on January 18, 2009, 12:03 PM | #

First point - well you wouls say that, wouldn’t you, otherwise you wouldn’t be disagreeing with me, so thats a no-brainer.

I believe in ethnonationalism; I am not quite sure what your quarrel with me for bringing that up.

Secondly - history shows us that closed societies that ignore market principles fail - two recent examples are Apartheid and communist USSR.  That’s not a moral issue, that is a fact.

All societies rise and fall so that is a moot point.

Although there were many structural problems with the USSR, blaming their failure solely on their lack of “market principles” while ignoring the Cold War efforts is patently ridiculous.

A society can embrace “market principles” without sacrificing their cultural values or opening themselves up to becoming minorities in their own land with a diminished culture, so that is a false dilemma.

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Posted by Sarah on January 18, 2009, 12:12 PM | #

so… what happened to Apartheid?

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Posted by Darren on January 18, 2009, 12:22 PM | #

I’m not trying to defend apartheid, but your thesis that the government of South Africa failed because of its lack of “market principles” doesn’t sound very accurate.

My knowledge is that SA was pretty prosperous with many industries, businesses, and booming global trade. Hardly comparable to the USSR by any means.

What about the United States? We had slavery up until Lincoln’s emancipation and were pretty well-off economically. America was pretty damn powerful before the 1960’s Civil Rights movements, before which blacks were legally second class citizens in many places.

Apartheid SA failed because of years of economic and political subversion, not because some inherent principle that racism (which you liken to Soviet economics) dooms you to failure.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on January 18, 2009, 12:23 PM | #

”[Racially/ethnoculturally homogeneous] societies that ignore market principles fail”  (—Sarah)

We’re not talking about ones that “ignore [elementary economic and market] principles.”  None of the ones we’re talking about fail.  Did the U.S. fail prior to 1970 when the Jewish immigration law of five years earlier first began showing measurable effects on demographics?  Did Europe fail prior to, say, 1985?  Does Japan fail today?  Does racially homogeneous China, which just overtook Germany as the third biggest economy on the planet, fail?

What fails are Negro and mulatto societies.  Not one of them in recorded history has ever once been other than a basket case (if mulatto like today’s Egypt) or outright hellhole (if Negro like Haiti, Rhodesia, or every single other example in existence, now or ever).

Besides, we don’t like the way Negroes and mulattoes look.  For that reason alone we reject mixing.

Have I been to The New & Very Much Kosher-Approved South Africa?  No.  So how do I know what I’m talking about in regard to Negroes?  Because South African isn’t the only place that has them, hun.  To take just one example, they have them galore in New York City where I grew up.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on January 18, 2009, 12:27 PM | #

Now don’t forget to activate your car’s sideways flame-throwers and wear your vaginal anti-rape insert when you leave your house, dear.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on January 18, 2009, 12:34 PM | #

The problem is Negroes are less evolved than whites.  They look less evolved and act less evolved.  And it’s inborn, so they’re stuck with it.  They’re less fitted to life in civilization.  They can’t cope.

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Posted by Captainchaos on January 18, 2009, 12:42 PM | #

I said: “Do you support the right of the European peoples to their genetic continuity (their right to exist) and the necessary means to ensure their genetic continuity?”

Sarah: “As for genocide, and specifically boer genocide, please bear in mind that you don’t know my views on this issue and you are clearly making assumptions that ONLY a white supremacist can understand the concept of genocide of afrikaaners, and therefore I don’t.”

I don’t know Sarah, my question to you was very precisely worded.  You could have replied with a “Yes, I do support the right of the European peoples to pursue their genetic continuity.” or with “Just what means would be necessary to ensure the genetic continuity of the European peoples.” or “What do you mean by genetic continuity?”.  Did you?  No.  You gave me the above vague pablum.  Are you trying to be sneaky?  Or are you sure it"s me who is slow on the up take?

“I don’t remember ever discussing these issues with you or anyone else.”

I don’t recall asking your permission to discuss certain “issues”?

“I think you must be arguing with the voices in your head.”

LOL! It they say, I must obey.

“Does anyone have any intelligent comments to make?”

If you paint over the Mona Lisa (no, not you, starlet) it is no longer the Mona Lisa; if you mongrelize the White race to the point that the self-same genetic stock of, say, a thousand years ago, is no long around, you will have, in effect, destroyed the White race.  That is GENEocide.  Savvy?

“What questions do you think I’ve been avioding, eh?”

Covered that.

“Please provide a coherent list.”

See above, though not exhaustive.

“However, I must bear in mind that if my answers don’t match your stereotypes you will simply disbelieve them,”

Oh God, that was a floater.  I can see it sailing over the fence now.  Just how do you suppose I might turn that one around on you?

“...so why should I bother to answer?”

So you are being evasive.  Gee, I guess “the voices” were right.

“Another thing I don’t understand - why on earth do you think I’d be lying? What purpose would it serve?”

What purpose does evasion serve?  Unless you just want to have a few laughs poking a dull (no, not sharp) stick at the evilnaughtynaziracists.

“As for my sex life, none of your business;”

You don’t want me asking questions about your “business”, which is “sex”?  How much is “business” paying in SA these days?  LOL!  Fair enough.

“I suggest you try something new and get your own.”

Done and done.

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Posted by Sarah on January 18, 2009, 01:28 PM | #

Dear Captain

You may of course discuss whatever issues you like; my point is that you were ascribiong comments to me that I did not make.  By all means discuss them, but there do have to be at least two sides to a conversation, you know.

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Posted by Guessedworker on January 18, 2009, 01:28 PM | #

Sarah,

Just to back up Darren’s point about the transiency of liberalism, right now we are NOT living in a liberal society but something transitional.  The present political dispensation in the West is one of neoliberalism + neo-Marxism, or capital + social authoritarianism, or wage-slavery + European race-replacement, depending upon where you are standing.  As surely every thinking person knows the elites are engineering a world of deracinated and divided, dumb and compliant consumers.  That is how the great symphony of European history is to end - over the next 50 to 100 years.  The signs are everywhere, if you look:-

Now, I take it you are not indifferent to this.  But there is no form of liberal politic which can overturn it, and no way of overturning it that is not constructed out of the desire for Europeans to live sovereign and free in their own ancestral lands.  In other words, only the radical right can oppose neoliberalism + neo-Marxism.  When you oppose us, you are, in fact, opposing the very weak light of hope for our people.

It is not a small thing to wish a people to live.  Like most who are emotionally committed to the ghost of liberalism, you, who don’t, really, really need to renew your value system, and place our survival in perpetuum at its apex.

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Posted by Sarah on January 18, 2009, 01:30 PM | #

So you’ve never been here and don’t know what you’re talking about - well, it shows.  I’m still waiting for an intelligent comment from you in particular Fred, instead of a boring re-hash of other people’s ideas.  Am I wasting my time?

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Posted by Sarah on January 18, 2009, 01:35 PM | #

Well, Captain Chaos, do you believe what I tell you about myself or don’t you?  Yes or no, it’s not difficult?  if you believe what I tell you, then I am happy to answer your questions about my relatives, friends etc.

As for the question “Do you support the right of the European peoples to their genetic continuity (their right to exist) and the necessary means to ensure their genetic continuity?” - well, duh!! I should think it’s quite obvious to anyone who reads my posts that I don’t - so yes, I do think you’re a bit slow on the uptake. I guess it’s all that incest and inbreeding you rednecks do - have you had sexual intercourse with your sister today?  Or was it your brother?

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Posted by Sarah on January 18, 2009, 01:40 PM | #

Dear Darren

For more on this subject I suggest you refer to parliamentary and electoral records, adn you will see that the primary motivation of both PW Botha and FW De Klerk for dismantling apartheid was purely because it was economically unsustainable for a number of reasons - the majority had no buying power, fake political boundaries affected the establishment of business, few people able to afford to pay tax etc etc.  Not to mention the effects of sanctions and civil unrest.  For this reason, although there was a lot of political support originally for the idea of keeping races separate, eventually the benefits (as perceived by the white population and the government) did not outweigh the costs.

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Posted by Captainchaos on January 18, 2009, 01:54 PM | #

Sarah: “You may of course discuss whatever issues you like; my point is that you were ascribiong comments to me that I did not make.  By all means discuss them, but there do have to be at least two sides to a conversation, you know.”

The meta-issue is the slow-motion genocide that the White race is under going globally.  South Africa is but a part of it, and salient because it can be taken as a good indicator of what will be in store for Whites once they are under the political control of non-Whites - globally.  The only reason that South Africa’s economy functions at all with its glut of average 70 IQ Negroes is because it still has enough working - though decaying - infra-structure built and maintained by Whites; and because it is plugged into the global economy (in large part made possible by the hundreds of millions of Whites who live else where).  Do you honestly believe your personal situation will have been improved in SA once Australia, New Zealand, Europe and America go non-White?  No, of course not.  You are a free-rider on the backs of White men who are required by you to give everything of themselves while expecting nothing, not even the small consideration of allowing them their peoplehood, in return.  Why don’t you think about that long and hard before you come back with some bit of mindless fluff?

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Posted by Sarah on January 18, 2009, 02:04 PM | #

Your peculiar theories on racism aside, you really haven’t responded to my point - which is that I never raised these issues in the first place.  Never mind, you’ve obviously got a short attention span, probably a genetic defect as a result of your ever-decreasing family gene-pool.

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Posted by Captainchaos on January 18, 2009, 02:04 PM | #

Sarah: “I should think it’s quite obvious to anyone who reads my posts that I don’t…”

So you don’t support our right to exist and therefore wish upon us genocide, your own people.  Justice be done, you would be thrown to the savages.  There is nothing left to say.

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Posted by Sarah on January 18, 2009, 02:07 PM | #

Hey y’all, bet you must have been quite upset when Barack Obama was elected.  Roll on Tuesday!

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Posted by Darren on January 18, 2009, 02:10 PM | #

Sarah, I think we could take this discussion on the reasons for the fall of apartheid SA further to prove my point to a final conclusion, but its really easy enough to refer back to the United States.

How long did the US prosper under slavery?

How long did the US prosper under the Jim Crow era?

Did those two eras end because they were economically unfeasible (as you propose as a universal trait for all groups that practice such racial policies), or because of changes in cultural/social norms, especially among the ruling elite?

Furthermore, my point is simply to defend the right of European nations to maintain their ethnic and cultural homogeneity (what of it still remains) - not to defend the idea of enslaving or oppressing members of other racial groups.

You have failed to demonstrate with any concrete evidence that such policy would be the downfall of a nation. Instead of questioning Fred’s intelligence, perhaps you could address his pointing out of the fact that China, a largely homogeneous nation (admittedly some ethnic variation, but nearly all Asian, and dominated by the Han), is eclipsing the multiracial states of the west or Japan’s own economic success and productivity.

Your peculiar theories on racism aside, you really haven’t responded to my point

You’ve missed the point on what the main topic of this blog is about, apparently.

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Posted by Captainchaos on January 18, 2009, 02:10 PM | #

Sarah: “Your peculiar theories on racism aside,”

Your points are non-points.  I have surveyed the evidence that convinces me to a moral certainty that my views are correct.  Have you read any of the scholarly literature showing the rock-solid genetic basis of intelligence and the differences in genetic intelligence between the races?  No.

Until you do you are just wasting your time and the time of other.  Good luck and good day.

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Posted by Sarah on January 18, 2009, 02:11 PM | #

Dear Captain, all this melodrama!  “Thrown to the savages”.  I’m pretty sure, if you were thrown to any non-Europeans, they would throw you right back. 

As for the right to exist, I’m not sure how you would intend to regulate that if you decided to take it away from some people. How’s that working out for you?

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Posted by Guessedworker on January 18, 2009, 02:14 PM | #

Sarah: As for the right to exist, I’m not sure how you would intend to regulate that if you decided to take it away from some people. How’s that working out for you?

Your value system is skewed.  You are a racial nihilist, which is only what liberals have become in the postmodern world.  We offer a path out of nihilism:-

http://majorityrights.com/index.php/weblog/comments/to_do_what_we_must_to_remain_who_we_are/

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Posted by Sarah on January 18, 2009, 02:16 PM | #

Darren, I am very interested in what you say, but I don’t honestly think that you can compare any country now, with the USA 250 years ago.  And how do you explain the collapse of slavery and the USA’s subsequent economic success?

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Posted by Sarah on January 18, 2009, 02:18 PM | #

Well Captain, that’s a snappy reply and a good way out of an argument that you’re not winning. Another coward, you can keep Fred company.

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Posted by Lurker on January 18, 2009, 03:25 PM | #

Sarah - where is the empirical data we can use to see how well South Africa is faring these days? Simply, in terms of crime, political freedom, economic success - we should be able to see roughly whether things are better than under white rule, just the same or worse. No doubt because I used the word ‘roughly’ you will the waffle on pointlessly about my shaky thinking.

Your argument about whether Ive lived in SA or not has some relevance but its only one step away from the tired old argument-from-anecdote. Your other problem using that line is that there are people from all over the world posting on MR. If we have to defer entirely to you over SA then you have to defer entirely to the rest of us over the rest of the world.

That’s then a major problem for you and your position, because then you have to explain why SA is the exception to the rule in terms of racial relations and inter-racial violence. You havent even begun to do that. The most we’ve heard from you is the same old liberal nonsense that we could hear anywhere in Europe or North America. It doesnt work in those places, why is it then going to be successful in SA?

No, I have not lived in SA but I notice that there are many more white South Africans in Britain than there used to be, there have always been some of course. If the new SA is so much better than the old why are they here in such numbers? How do you explain that? That whites on the whole have a bigoted racist mind set and they just cant bear the new SA? Essentially a psychiatric explanation then. A racist one at that ie whites are different to blacks (they not being bigoted or racist of course). Trouble is if one group can be different to another, that rather undermines your anti-racist world view, you’ve allowed the notion of group differences into play, then its just an argument about which groups have which attributes.

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Posted by realist on January 18, 2009, 03:36 PM | #

Well, can it be any clearer that Sarah is a complete idiot and genocide advocate?  She may be even a child, considering her arguments are shallow and child-like.  No wonder the Negroes love her.  She gives them what they want, and we all know what that means, and she is a dullard.

Many of us do not take too kindly to being relegated for extinction, Sarah.  Just some friendly advice.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on January 18, 2009, 04:34 PM | #

Sarah, scope out the four links all the way at the bottom of this page’s left-hand margin:   

  * African crisis
  * Boer genocide
  * Death of Johannesburg
  * South Africa sucks

From what I understand, these sites are produced by folk who’ve lived in SA, hun.  Enjoy!  (And then afterwards you can google what the Negroes have done to the once-fine city of Detroit.  Your city of Durban, by the way, darling, is widely seen as “the Detroit of SA.”  Thanks to the Jews!!  AREN’T JEWS GREAT???  WHAT WOULD JEWISH AND WHITE PROFITEERS, DEVELOPERS, LAND JOBBERS, AND COMPRADORS DO WITHOUT THE JEWS CHURNING ALL THAT REAL ESTATE???)

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Posted by Ryder on January 18, 2009, 04:34 PM | #

Sarah: Well Captain, that’s a snappy reply and a good way out of an argument that you’re not winning.

Um, Sarah, you have failed to make even a single substantive point.  Post after post of pablum interspersed with insults - but nary a substantive point to be found.  Intellectually, you are a non-entity.  You certainly haven’t won any argument here.  Hell, you haven’t really made any meaningful arguments.  Instead, you mostly accuse others of being illogical, without demonstrating why they are illogical.  Do you really not understand the difference between a silly assertion and a substantive argument? 

It’s been said that a little education is a dangerous thing.  You illustrate this point beautifully.

Here is one of your priceless gems:  And how do you explain the collapse of slavery and the USA’s subsequent economic success?

LOL!  Um, chattel slavery existed all over the world, oh unenlightened one.  In most parts of the world, chattel slavery has been eliminated.  Does that mean that all parts of the world enjoy economic success?  Of course not.  A reasonably informed fifth grader would know that such is not the case. 

So, Sarah, we can plainly see that the “collapse of slavery” does not lead to economic success.  If it did, the whole world would be rich.  Sarah, try to apply some basic, elementary logic.  I know it’s hard, but try.  If things were that simple, Brazil would be every bit as wealthy as the the United States.  Haiti would be as successful as Norway.  Thd third world would be as successful as the West and the Pacific rim.

In short, your “argument”, if it can be dignified as such, is entirely without merit. 

Now, chattel slavery is likely to be economically inefficient.  It also offends my moral sensibilties, and leads to all sorts of other problems as well.  I am completely opposed to it, and rue the day that good whiskey was traded for slaves at Jamestown.  What a disaster.  Can we take all of that as read?  But its collapse sure doesn’t account for why some societies are successful and others aren’t. 

So what does lead to success?

Of course there are many possible answers, but there is one of particular importance: the quality of the people that inhabit a given society.  If the quality sucks, if the human capital is low, the society is going to suck.  The United States, until very recently, was blessed with high human capital.  That’s changing quickly.  South Africa, on the other hand, has extremely low human quality.  Very low, and it’s going to show.  If a woman sits on the couch stuffing bon bons in her face, it’s going to show.  Same with having a society full of low IQ blacks.  You can, with increasing desperation, attempt to find some other scapegoat to blame the problems on.  But here is the spoiler: none of it will hold water.  Nothing you can come up with will hold water any better than your ridiculous “collapse of slavery” argument.  Sarah, we’ve heard it all.  We’ve seen this movie before.  You’ve got nothing. 

The scary thing is that, despite the extreme ignorance and limited intellectual capacity that you demonstrate, you probably are in fact above average by South African standards.  South Africa is in heap big trouble.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on January 18, 2009, 04:44 PM | #

Your maiden name is Briggs and your husband is an Afrikaner of Dutch extraction, so you’re a white couple.  Therefore your kids are white, or will be.  Is that a matter of complete indifference to you (white husband, white kids)?  If not, why adopt an attitude that, by opposing the bolstering of white-race communities, potentially makes it harder for other white women to obtain what you sought for your own happiness or at least valued, white kids fathered by white husbands?

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on January 18, 2009, 04:48 PM | #

“Um, Sarah, you have failed to make even a single substantive point.  Post after post of pablum interspersed with insults - but nary a substantive point to be found.  Intellectually, you are a non-entity.  You certainly haven’t won any argument here.  Hell, you haven’t really made any meaningful arguments.”  (—Ryder)

Her specialty isn’t substance.  It’s sauce.  This is one saucy wench.  (Are you a redhead, Sarah?)  Keeps her husband on his toes, I bet.

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Posted by Ryder on January 18, 2009, 05:00 PM | #

Sarah: I should think it’s quite obvious to anyone who reads my posts that I don’t…

Captainchaos: So you don’t support our right to exist and therefore wish upon us genocide, your own people

Glad you flushed this out of her.  It’s good to get the naked evil of the genocidalist out in the open.  They are at best indifferent to, and often actively seeking, our very extinction.  It only helps us make our case when we expose the nasty evil at their core.  Behind the false facade of touchy feely liberalism, there is nothing but a hateful and rancid genocidalist.  There is absolutely no point in trying to compromise with such people. 

As you are fond of saying: take it all back, the Big Idea.

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Posted by Ryder on January 18, 2009, 05:28 PM | #

(Fred Scrooby)Her specialty isn’t substance.  It’s sauce.  This is one saucy wench.  (Are you a redhead, Sarah?) Keeps her husband on his toes, I bet.

lol Wench is right. 

Sarah strikes me as that certain type of white female who, while not very bright, desperately wishes to be seen as intelligent.  She wants to be thought of as sophisticated and cosmopolitan.  Of course, she is none of these things.  The complete emptiness of her “arguments” makes it clear that she is either poorly educated or, at the least, not very intelligent.  But don’t despair!!  Liberalism teaches her that, by distancing herself from her own people, by being either indifferent to or actively in favor of her own people’s extinction, she is somehow enlightened and open minded.  LOL!

Ah, Nirvanna!! How sweet it is! 

Because such a creature has no real center, no real soul to speak of, it is obsessed with status.  It desperately seeks to avoid being seen as a “redneck” or the Afrikaner equivalent.  What better way to achieve faux status than to be “beyond race” in horrible old South Africa?  We get some of that type here, as well.  Often they are girls from a rural background that have moved to the big city, desperate to rid themselves of their redneck baggage.  Think Holly Golightly, but without any of the beauty or charm.  Basically, status whores. 

And what a deal!! The feeling of being morally superior to bigoted old grandad is so easy to come by.  It doesn’t require either intelligence, career success, or good character.  Just spout the liberal platitudes, and even better internalize them.  Be a good parrot.  How sophisticated!!

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on January 18, 2009, 05:51 PM | #

Look at Kubilai’s comment near the top of the thread:

”This is a travesty and the accomplices should be tried before a World court and then hung until dead for not only allowing innocent people to be murdered, but also planting the seeds of some warped ‘justifiable reaction’ to apartheid as the sole cause of the misery of Black Africans and essentially promoting this genocide.”

Kubilai is an ethnic Greek (living in Canada) yet fiercely defends the Afrikaners here (who are Dutch by race, so from the Greek viewpoint a variety of “nord.”)  And conversely, plenty of “nords” are fierce defenders of Greece’s racial identity. 

We’re all Euros and we all feel Euro kinship.

But not Dienekes:  he doesn’t act this way.  This would be the grown-up way, the gentleman’s way, the white man’s way to act.  Kubilai the Greek is a white man, who therefore acts white.  Dienekes the Greek doesn’t act white but, reacting with barely disguised Schadenfreude when any Euro group to the north of Greece gets racially shafted, acts like a resentful, cringeing, small, narrow-minded dagoe.  Maybe it’s because he’s Pontic, therefore Asian?  (See his betrayal of Europe discussed in the comments here:

http://majorityrights.com/index.php/weblog/comments/jews_lie_about_madoff_swindle/#c66941 )

He calls himself Dienekes, a Greek who defended Europe?  Maybe he should start calling himself Ephialtes instead.  (Look those two names up, any who don’t already know them.)

I’ll refer to him as Ephialtes Pontikos, named after a Greek who did not defend Europe.  That fits him better. 

He does not deserve to be known as Dienekes.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on January 18, 2009, 05:54 PM | #

Excellent analysis in Ryder’s last comment of where Sarah is really coming from.

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Posted by Dave Johns on January 18, 2009, 06:10 PM | #

“Sarah strikes me as that certain type of white female who, while not very bright, desperately wishes to be seen as intelligent.”

Don’t underestimate Sarah. I personally know many white female liberals in the IQ range that are probably well above the mean IQ of those that post here at MR. Sarah’s persona reflects the typical high IQ, college educated, white liberal female to a tee!

Look, if she’s just a dumb bimbo, why are some of you guys so engrossed in a battle of words trying to defeat her? Maybe she’s just toying with us? That’s my take.

Just something to think about.

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Posted by Captainchaos on January 18, 2009, 06:38 PM | #

Ryder: “Glad you flushed this out of her.”

I’m surprised she answered with a straight, categorical thumbs down.  Not even with, “Well, if Whites want to procreate with only other Whites on an individual basis, that is their right.”  She just says, “Screw you Whitey!”  That’s pretty egregious.

“As you are fond of saying: take it all back, the Big Idea.”

That’s right.  Women like Sarah, of, maybe (LOL!), above average intelligence who need something a little more than a compliment from the mirror - like striving towards non-ideals - to fuel their narcissism are unfortunately not that uncommon amongst our race these days.  By implementing the Big Idea we will be doing them a Big Favor; unless, of course, they can afford armed security in the coming dystopia.

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Posted by Dave Johns on January 18, 2009, 06:44 PM | #

There’s no doubt, Sarah is definitely toying with us! DON’T FALL FOR IT!

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Posted by Ryder on January 18, 2009, 06:57 PM | #

Dave Johns,

I’m astonished at your comment.  “Trying to defeat her”????  She’s “toying” with us?  LOL!!!!

For a moment, words escape me.  lol

Ah, now the moment has passed. 

There is nothing that Sarah has written that is indicative of a high IQ.  Nothing.  What she has written is indicative of a very mediocre IQ.  Not a “dumb bimbo” (your words),  but not very bright either.  The fact that she argues so poorly, and yet seemed quite eager to show up on this board to spread her inanity, is indicative of her having guzzled the kool-aid of political correctness.  She desperately wants to be seen as sophisticated and cosmopolitan. She obviously is not.   

But please, feel free to prove me wrong by providing samples of her erudite wisdom and rapier wit.  Sorry dude, but it just ain’t there.  That’s not to say that high IQ white women haven’t gulped politically correct kool-aid as well.  Of course they have.  But such a woman would be unlikely to operate as Sarah does, and such a woman’s writing would be better.  Much better.  Also, Sarah’s horrible and self-defeating use of ridiculous assertions and analogies is yet another indicator that she is not terribly bright, but wants to be thought of as such.  Her insults about rednecks inbreeding is yet another.  I know bright liberal females, and I know wannabees.  Sarah is a wannabee. 

Here is a tell of intellectual mediocrity:  a person who uses really stupid analogies and assertions, and yet seems quite proud of themselves.  A person of slightly above average intelligence can hit the normal man on the street with all sorts of stupid assertions, and that normal guy will not be able to refute them.  He just won’t have an answer ready to rebut, as intellectual argument is not his thing.  So the intellectual mediocrity is used to being able to hit non-intellectuals with assertions or analogies that they of course can’t refute, and therefore the mediocrity begins to think of itself as smart.  That seems to be what has happened to Sarah.  She really believes that her ridiculous and juvenile assertions are real arguments.  They aren’t.  In fact, her foolish assertions are so self-defeating that they play into her opponent’s hands.  She is one of the worst debaters that I’ve seen in some time. 

So nah, Sarah is a hopeless mediocrity.  Don’t assume that there is more to her than there is. 

So why bother at all with her?  Simple: she represents a teachable moment.  I don’t challenge her for her benefit, but rather for the benefit of any readers who may be following the thread.  The inanity of people like Sarah needs to be pointed out, and yes they need to be mocked.  They’ve earned it in spades.  Above, I’ve completely destroyed her “argument.”  I demolished it.  Let’s see how she responds. 

Also, it’s particularly great when their genocidal tendencies come out, as captainchaos flushed out of her.  You just can’t buy that kind of value. 

In short, Dave, we are toying with her.  And I have to say, it’s fun.

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Posted by Dave Johns on January 18, 2009, 07:00 PM | #

Come on Cap! You say 75% of the people you work with are black! You of all people should know through experience how psyche games are played! Can’t you see Sarah is playing a psyche game? I’m sure you can.

BTW, I’m not implying sarah is black (though “she” may very well be), I’m saying sarah is playing games.

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Posted by Ryder on January 18, 2009, 07:15 PM | #

Dave Johns: BTW, I’m not implying sarah is black (though “she” may very well be), I’m saying sarah is playing games.

Dave, she is here doing pratfalls and revealing the utter illogic, bankruptcy, and ultimately evil of the diversity advocates.  She is either a mediocrity or doing a very good job of impersonating one. 

How is this harmful to us?  We should be “toyed” like this more often.  Again, it’s just a teachable moment, nothing more.

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Posted by Dave Johns on January 18, 2009, 07:33 PM | #

So why bother at all with her?

Let’s be clear. When I said:

“Look, if she’s just a dumb bimbo, why are some of you guys so engrossed in a battle of words trying to defeat her? Maybe she’s just toying with us? That’s my take.”

I was trying to explain to you this: Either she’s manipulating us and we’re falling into her trap, or she should be regarded as a liberal twit; therefore, in either case, those that are refuting “her” are spending too much time and energy in that endeavor.  Capiech?

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Posted by Dave Johns on January 18, 2009, 07:54 PM | #

Again, it’s just a teachable moment, nothing more.

Agreed!

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Posted by Ryder on January 18, 2009, 07:57 PM | #

Dave Johns:I was trying to explain to you this: Either she’s manipulating us and we’re falling into her trap, or she should be regarded as a liberal twit; therefore, in either case, those that are refuting “her” are spending too much time and energy in that endeavor.  Capiech?

Yeah, Dave, I get what you were trying to say.  It wasn’t exactly rocket science.  What I was explaining to you, which you either don’t understand or won’t address, is that Sarah is only benefiting us.  Or, at least, she was until you intervened.  Whether she is a true to life mediocrity or, for whatever bizarre reason, is impersonating one, the bottom line is that she offers a teachable moment as to the lunacy and bankruptcy of her liberal, anti-white ideas. 

If you don’t want to participate in the thread, that’s fine.  But please stop interrupting it with ridiculous claims that Sarah is some sort of high IQ genius who is “toying” with us, and that we are falling into her brilliant trap.  LOL!!! Yeah, Sarah is cackling away in evil delight, while stroking a white furry cat, with the letters SPECTRE emblazoned on her sweatshirt!!  The sheer genius of it all!

The irony is that you have now given the moron a petty little victory.  Her arguments demolished, the evil rotten core flushed out for all to see, but is she going to care about that?  Nah.  She’s going to be happy that she helped sow some dissension amongst our ranks.  Thanks dude for derailing a perfectly good thread.  She can proudly boast to her friends that even one of the evil racists thought that she has a high IQ (even though she obviously doesn’t).  I should not have to debate with you on something like this, I should be able to focus on showing her up for the tard that she is.  But thanks anyway for the arrow in my back.

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Posted by Sarah on January 18, 2009, 08:06 PM | #

Quite right john, and good work for spotting it.  Chatting race & politics with these guys is like poking a crab with a stick - they hate it but they just keep coming back for more.

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Posted by Dave Johns on January 18, 2009, 08:17 PM | #

Ryder, you are ignorant to the real world! I stand by my assertion that sarah reflects the typical high IQ, college educated, white female liberal. It’s a fact! A fact I’m very uncomfortable with, but a fact it surly is!

The irony is that you have now given the moron a petty little victory

If she’s only a moron, why do you care if she is given a victory?

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on January 18, 2009, 08:38 PM | #

“Chatting race & politics with these guys is like poking a crab with a stick - they hate it but they just keep coming back for more.”  (—Sarah)

Right sweetie, you’re such an expert on “race and politics,” any of us here would have to be INSANE to go up against you!  You’re sooooooooooo intimidating!!  I give up!  I’m too scared to even TRY!  YOU WIN, HONEY!!  YOU’VE BESTED EVERYONE HERE!!

(What color did you say your hair was, dear? ...)

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Posted by Lurker on January 18, 2009, 08:50 PM | #

Quite right john, and good work for spotting it.  Chatting race & politics with these guys is like poking a crab with a stick - they hate it but they just keep coming back for more.

Sarah, you’re priceless, you havnt come out with a single coherent argument, yet you show breathless arrogance here acting like you are lecturing the ignorant. Do you actually think you are scoring points? Really? What are they then, just name one, explain it to us. If you think you’ve won an argument, you must be able, logically, to tell us what it is. No, we love it, thats why we come back for more, we’ve got the facts, morality and arguments on our side, you’ve got….nothing.

All I’m getting from you is a quasi-religious belief in the post-racial future (which of course isnt anything of the sort, its just a world without white people), a belief the benefits of which you cant substantiate in any way.

If one group has a right, then all groups should have it.  I don’t believe that any group has a right to claim superiority over any other - that is morally wrong.  I am sure you don’t agree with me, so don’t waste your time or mine explaining that you don’t agree with me

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Straw man argument, which has been demolished over and over again. Whites are simply saying that their right to continue to exist. Some here might argue for dominion over other groups but most would settle for peaceful co-existence.

It also economically and politically unrealistic to think that any country or territory will or can ever again be used or occupied by one exclusive ethnic group.

Funnily enough you just contradicted yourself there. One minute you arguing about morality then wheel out a half-baked economic theory which handily overrides your morality argument. So, if economically it made sense for one group to dominate another then that would be OK morally, or not. What happens then Sarah, your head explodes?

That second assertion is cobblers anyway. Is Somalia becoming less Somalian, is China becoming less Chinese? Where is that Mongolian immigration into Iran, funny, I dont seem to have heard much about that at all. But it must be happening.

  The only places where mass non-white immigration is happening are countries where whites are or were in control.

Finally Sarah lets draw attention to another of your debating tactics, Ive done it once already:

Hey y’all, bet you must have been quite upset when Barack Obama was elected.  Roll on Tuesday!

Oh yes very amusing. But you’ve made a big point about some of us not living in SA, therefore our opinions on SA are it seems completely invalidated. Well, you don’t live in the US. Your opinion on the supposed benefits of Obama are therefore also completely invalidated, you aren’t allowed to praise him, you don’t live there, you don’t really know anything about him.

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Posted by Dave Johns on January 18, 2009, 08:53 PM | #

You’ve fallen into her crab-trap, Fred.

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Posted by Ryder on January 18, 2009, 09:00 PM | #

Sarah:Quite right john, and good work for spotting it.  Chatting race & politics with these guys is like poking a crab with a stick - they hate it but they just keep coming back for more.

Now that Dave Johns has come to your rescue, you react precisely as I assumed.  Why don’t you respond to the substance of the arguments?  We both know the reason why, don’t we?  You can’t.  Part of this is because you lack the ability.  Part of it is that your views are so irrational and at odds with reality that, even if you were much smarter than you appear to be, you would still lose.  But prove me wrong, Sarah.  Prove me wrong with substance.  I’m waiting.  *crickets chirping*

(Dave Johns) Ryder, you are ignorant to the real world! I stand by my assertion that sarah reflects the typical high IQ, college educated, white female liberal. It’s a fact! A fact I’m very uncomfortable with, but a fact it surly is!

You only damn yourself with this Dave.  As I asked you before, please point out one thing that she has said that is indicative of a high IQ.  One thing.  I’m waiting.  I want substance.  Stilll waiting. 

If your standard for high intelligence is so low that one of the worst debaters that I’ve seen passes as high IQ in your book, what does that say?  Hint: it says something about you, not about me.  Maybe you simply don’t know many intelligent people, and therefore a hopeless mediocrity like Sarah is what you imagine a bright woman to be?  Who knows. 

If she’s only a moron, why do you care if she is given a victory?

I don’t care at all about her.  No truly intelligent woman would consider your groundless praise to be a victory, but surely Sarah will.  You gave her exactly what a mediocrity craves. 

I DO care about the fact that you have derailed a perfectly good thread, and gone a long way towards ruining a teachable moment. Your behavior in sabotaging this thread is unbelievable.  So get back to your new bestest buddy and good friend, Sarah.  She jumped in right on cue once she saw the dissension you have created.  “Quite right John, and good work for spotting it”

Yes, good work indeed.  But for which side?

Thanks again for warning us about Sarah’s “psyche” game.  Good to know that you are on top of things, and that it was only Sarah running such a game.

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Posted by Ryder on January 18, 2009, 09:21 PM | #

(Dave Johns) You’ve fallen into her crab-trap, Fred.

Jeez, what is it with this guy? 

Poor Fred, poor poor Fred.  He’s fallen into her crab-trap?!? (strongly resisting ...urge…to make extremely crass joke). 

Fred, I know that you are in dire straights now that you are caught in her ingenious “crab-trap” (cough), but we’re here for you buddy!! 

Please Dave, keep the constant warnings coming! We hapless ones will surely fall into crab-traps without your sage warnings.  Make sure to intersperse your condescending warnings with generous praise of the wiley trapper’s intelligence!

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Posted by Dave Johns on January 18, 2009, 09:27 PM | #

Thanks again for warning us about Sarah’s “psyche” game.  Good to know that you are on top of things, and that it was only Sarah running such a game.

Hah! I, the most racist person on the planet just love to be lectured by a lesser. Priceless!

MORE MORE MORE!!! LMFAO!!!!

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Posted by Ryder on January 18, 2009, 09:46 PM | #

Dave Johns: Hah! I, the most racist person on the planet just love to be lectured by a lesser. Priceless!

MORE MORE MORE!!! LMFAO!!!!

Dave, I’d love to help, but the wily trapper has me in her crab-trap.  If only you had warned me sooner!!!  Then all of this misery need never to have happened!! 

Oh well.

Whether you are the most racist person on the planet in not at issue.  What I care about is your sabotage of a perfectly good thread.  A lot of people put a lot of time into posting on this thread, and you’ve pretty much ruined it with your bizarre and condescending warnings about crab-traps, while praising an anti-white mediocrity to the high heavens.  Whether you did it intentionally, or whether you are just an incompetent who doesn’t “get it”, the end result is the same. 

But quick! You have important work to do.  As you read this, no doubt hapless posters are falling into crab-traps!! You must warn them! Chop Chop.  These warnings (and praise for the wily trapper) are most effective when the trapper’s arguments are being completely demolished!  But then, you probably knew that.

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Posted by Dave Johns on January 18, 2009, 09:56 PM | #

As I asked you before, please point out one thing that she has said that is indicative of a high IQ.  One thing.  I’m waiting.  I want substance.  Stilll waiting.

Go back an read ALL my posts.  And if you don’t think sarah has high IQ, so what? I think she does! Fuck you! Kiss my ass!

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Posted by Lurker on January 18, 2009, 11:15 PM | #

It doesnt matter for the purposes of this thread whether Sarah has a high IQ or not.

You might have a great gun but if you havnt got any ammunition then its greatness is irrelevant.

What matters is whether she can logically defend her position, clearly she can’t. She is not firing blanks, she is not firing at all.

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Posted by Dave Johns on January 18, 2009, 11:28 PM | #

It’s not her that matters. It’s the irrational reaction to her that is in question.

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Posted by Ryder on January 19, 2009, 12:56 AM | #

(Dave Johns) Go back an read ALL my posts.  And if you don’t think sarah has high IQ, so what? I think she does! Fuck you! Kiss my ass!

Sorry, I can’t do that Dave.  The pod bay doors will have to stay closed.  Don’t forget your meds, Dave.

(Dave Johns) It’s not her that matters. It’s the irrational reaction to her that is in question.

There has been no irrational reaction here, except that displayed by you.  When an anti is getting their ass handed to them, and when that anti has not made a single substantive argument, and then you condescendingly warn people not to “understimate” her, laud her high IQ, and in general try to paint a picture of pro-white posters as bumpkins falling into her brilliant “crab-traps” (gag), THAT is the issue.  As lurker and other posters have pointed out, she’s not even FIRING, dude.  She’s got absolutely nothing of substance.  She simply spread insults, made the standard ridiculous liberal assertions, and was shredded as a result. 

Then you jump in with your dire warnings not to “understimate” her.  What the fuck????? Um, it’s a forum dude.  Either she has good points to make or she doesn’t.  In her case, she doesn’t.  What the hell is this “underestimating” b.s?  Please give me one substantive post where she made some great point that the rest of us didn’t understand.  Just one.  I keep asking you for substance, and like Sarah all you offer are insults.  No substance whatsoever.  You argue just like she does. 

And lauding such a mediocrity as being high IQ?  If she has one, she’s given no evidence of it here.  And so on and so on.  But you’re right about one thing - it’s not her that matters.  It’s your bizarre reaction that matters.  It’s your bizarre characterization of pro-whites that completely wiped the floor with an anti as hapless bumpkins falling into crab-traps.  It’s your bizarre characterization of an anti that didn’t score a single point as someone who is brilliant and not to be understimated.  I can’t remember the last time I have seen reality turned on its head so completely.  You actively sabotaged a perfectly good thread, and ruined its educational value.  And for bonus points you did it in a very strange and bizarre way.  Great job.

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Posted by Sarah on January 19, 2009, 02:01 AM | #

Dear Ryder, Lurker, Captain Chaos and Co…

I’m not trying to win an argument with you.  I am trying to piss you off.  From the vast amount of time and energy you have spent posting comments to me and about me, I have succeeded, and derailed the thread.  My work here is done.  So long suckers.

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Posted by Ryder on January 19, 2009, 02:40 AM | #

Dear Ryder, Lurker, Captain Chaos and Co…

I’m not trying to win an argument with you.  I am trying to piss you off.  From the vast amount of time and energy you have spent posting comments to me and about me, I have succeeded, and derailed the thread.  My work here is done.  So long suckers.(Sarah)

LOL!!!!!!

No, what you did was come on here and do pratfalls, creating a wonderful educational opportunity for readers to see the utter bankruptcy and evil of liberal anti-whites.  You made anti-white liberalism look awful, and there is no way you did that on purpose. 

But David Johns came to your rescue, and now you are taking the out that he provided.  Whew!!!!! I bet that was a relief!! You probably couldn’t have thought of it yourself.  I knew this is what you would do, it’s just too predictable.  LOL!

Hint for Sarah: the best way to defeat pro-whites is to, well, DEFEAT pro-whites.  If you were capable of doing that, you would have done so.  You didn’t because you can’t.  You could have wasted far more time by actually making intelligent arguments.  Sorry gal, you just ain’t got it in you.  Oh, and you are now a self-proclaimed liar to boot.  Congrats.  David John’s giving you a way out does not hide your bankruptcy.

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Posted by Lurker on January 19, 2009, 05:55 AM | #

RE: Sarah and her ‘arguments’ - what Ryder said.

I’m not trying to win an argument with you.  I am trying to piss you off.  From the vast amount of time and energy you have spent posting comments to me and about me, I have succeeded, and derailed the thread.  My work here is done.  So long suckers.(Sarah)

Yes, Sarah and revealed the full-spectrum logical bankruptcy of your position. In fact, strictly speaking, we never even got to hear what it actually was, probably because, in reality you don’t know yourself.

What stands behind you is the implication of some vast, all conquering argument that’s so persuasive that its hardly worth mentioning. You probably believe that yourself, since it’s likely you’ve never had to defend it at all. See, the multi-cultural, post-racial debate the one thats been had and won by you & yours never gets round to being outlined at all, ever, anywhere. Believe me Ive looked.

A typical politician will write an article/speech that goes something like this:

Like everyone else I deplore the recent violence in [somewhere or other]. I yield to none in my belief in a multi-cultural, tolerant society and its manifest benefits….blah blah…our way of life…blah…troublemakers…family values…blah…community…blah…outsiders etc etc.

But of course those manifest benefits will not be listed, ever*. They are looming off stage, just outside the glare of the lights. Or perhaps like the unseen monsters of Forbidden Planet and Cloverfield. We know how big and scary they are, they must be real. In a fictional context their non-appearance is what gives them real power. Well your multicultural post-racial society is just as fictional, its just a special effect, there is nothing there at all.

*There is one, exotic cuisine. Its the only concrete one we hear about.

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Posted by Dave Johns on January 19, 2009, 12:27 PM | #

When an anti is getting their ass handed to them, and when that anti has not made a single substantive argument, [ ... ] She’s got absolutely nothing of substance.  She simply spread insults, made the standard ridiculous liberal assertions, and was shredded as a result. [ ... ]  Then you (Dave Johns) actively sabotaged a perfectly good thread, and ruined its educational value.

LOL

Uh, Ryder, since she demonstrated over and over again that she lacked any real substantive argument, etc., can you please explain how in the world this thread provided any “educational value”???

I can tell what it did provide, however: An example of how easy it is for someone who is obviously a troll to push the hot buttons of chumps.

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Posted by AS on January 19, 2009, 02:29 PM | #

http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/articles/MacDonald-Hsu.html
The problem with intellectually insecure whites
Kevin MacDonald
January 19, 2009

America will soon have a white minority. This is a much desired state of affairs for the hostile elites who hold political power and shape public opinion. But it certainly creates some management issues — at least in the long run. After all, it’s difficult to come up with an historical example of a nation with a solid ethnic majority (90% white in 1950) that has voluntarily decided to cede political and cultural power. Such transformations are typically accomplished by military invasions, great battles, and untold suffering.

And it’s not as if everyone is doing it. Only Western nations view their own demographic and cultural eclipse as a moral imperative. Indeed, as I have noted previously, it is striking that racial nationalism has triumphed in Israel at the same time that the Jewish intellectual and political movements and the organized Jewish community have been the most active and effective force for a non-white America. Indeed, a poll in 2008 found that Avigdor Lieberman was the second most popular politician in Israel. Lieberman has advocated expulsion of Arabs from Israel and has declared himself a follower of Vladimir Jabotinsky, the leading pioneer of racial Zionism. The most popular politician in the poll was Benjamin Netanyahu — another admirer of Jabotinsky. Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni are also Jabotinskyists.


The difference from the Soviet Union may well be that in white-minority America it will not be workers and Israelites who are favored, but non-whites and Israelites. Whites may dream that they are entering the post-racial utopia imagined by their erstwhile intellectual superiors. But it is quite possible that they are entering into a racial dystopia of unimaginable cruelty in which whites will be systematically excluded in favor of the new elites recruited from the soon-to-be majority. It’s happened before.

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Posted by realist on January 19, 2009, 02:38 PM | #

I’m not trying to win an argument with you.  I am trying to piss you off.  From the vast amount of time and energy you have spent posting comments to me and about me, I have succeeded, and derailed the thread.  My work here is done.  So long suckers.

This last bit is thanks to Dave Johns feeding her an exit, namely “derailing a thread” which, if anyone is interested was started in 2005.  It was a dead thread to begin with.  She lied about this as well as her many lies.  Dave Johns needs to buy a fucking clue and STFU when he doesn’t know what he is speaking of. 

No one here was “pissed off” and no one put in “vast amounts of time and energy”.  Sarah is exactly how Ryder and others, including myself, summed her up.  A low IQ idiot that got in way over her head.

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Posted by Ryder on January 19, 2009, 02:38 PM | #

(Dave Johns) Uh, Ryder, since she demonstrated over and over again that she lacked any real substantive argument, etc., can you please explain how in the world this thread provided any “educational value”???

Dave, she wasn’t on here talking about space aliens and magic elves.  Sarah is representative of the mediocre anti-white liberalism that currently has full run in this society.  She was making standard liberal assertions - assertions that are literally believed by millions of people out there.  Part of the intellectual grunt work of defeating the anti-whites is to debunk these ridiculous assertions, and show them for the rancid and bankrupt positions that they in fact are.  Sarah dimwittingly provided us with the perfect platform for this.  Yes, that has educational value. That’s what was going on here, until you sabotaged the thread.  And if you thought the thread was a waste of time, the solution was simple: don’t participate.  Instead you derail the thread with dire warnings that we should not “understimate” Sarah, and that she has a high IQ, and that we are falling into her brilliant “crab-traps.”  To see such praise heaped upon a hopeless mediocrity like Sarah was unreal.  Your behavior has been unbelievable.  I’ve been a reader of pro-white forums for years, and I don’t remember ever seeing anything quite like it. 

(Dave Johns) I can tell what it did provide, however: An example of how easy it is for someone who is obviously a troll to push the hot buttons of chumps.

Debunking liberal anti-white assertions believed by millions is real work that needs to be done.  The fact that anyone here is so dense as to not understand this is amazing to me.  The only person who got a game run on them was you, if indeed your behavior was not intentional or the result of sheer incompetence.  You ended up as Sarah’s pet dog.

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Posted by Dave Johns on January 19, 2009, 04:04 PM | #

Okay, you guys win. I unwittingly sided with the enimie. I hope my actions on this thread don’t result in us losing the war. grin

But in the mean time, 138,000 non-white people are legally immigrating into the U.S.A, PER MONTH!

Then there is the 15 to 25 million illegal aliens—mostly Mexicans—already here ... and 10’s of thousands are still streaming across the border each month illegally in addition to the 138,000 arriving here legally. And they’re multiplying like rabbits!

During the Obama Administration it is all but certain amnesty will be granted to those here illegally. One aspect of such an action will make it a statistic impossibility to win our revolution through the ballot box.

Then there’s this: “U.S. military report warns ‘sudden collapse’ of Mexico is possible” which will surly cause millions upon millions of Mexicans to flood across our borders to seek refuge here; further straining an already strained social services infrastructure. Pakistan’s “government” ( they have lots of nukes you know!) is also on the verge of collapse too. We haven’t the military assets to stop the Islamic Jihadists from taking over a nuclear Pakistan. Think about that!

All this in the midst of a collapsing economy on a worldwide scale. I could go on and on and on ....

And you two want to make a big deal about an insignificant exchange of words that happened on a web-site that hardly anybody even knows about?

Come-on, gentlemen. Get your priorities in order!

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Posted by Rusty Mason on January 19, 2009, 05:27 PM | #

I understand that Whites are going to be a minority very soon in America, probably within 15-20 years at current immigration and birth rates, at least that’s my guess.  Anyone have any other reliable numern?

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Posted by Dave Johns on January 19, 2009, 05:59 PM | #

Anyone have any other reliable numern?

Rusty,

I’ve always relied on Numbers USA

http://illegalillegals.com/start-the-new-congress-with-deluge-of-faxes-why-continue-138000-foreign-workers-per-month/comment-page-1/

Frosty Woolridge is also an excellent source on that subject.

http://www.frostywooldridge.com/

Hope that helps.

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Posted by FEENEY on January 19, 2009, 06:46 PM | #

2012 Whites will have dipped into minority status in the U.S.
The Census Bureau and other government figures for Whites are so inclusive that they are practically meaningless. In 2006 the Associated Press stated that 66% of Americans were “White”, if the leftist AP says that you can be sure it is much less.

55% of Whites voted for the SWINE McCain. That is they were voting against Obama.

This is why I think an open National Socialist movement will be the only realistic hope of keeping some Whites safe. That is what it has come down to, keeping safe in a Third World zoo.

KEEP YOUR GUNS, this is critical otherwise the hunting of Whites will be too, too easy.

GunBanObama.com

http://gunowners.org/

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Posted by Dave Johns on January 19, 2009, 07:45 PM | #

I forgot to ask the very astute Ryder and ‘realist’ why they didn’t figure out that the letters in the name “sarah” arranged backwards spells haras. AS IN HARASS! Get it, guys? Maybe now you can see she wasn’t so stupid after-all and she really was playing games with you?

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Posted by Steve on January 19, 2009, 09:17 PM | #

The abandoned child, normally becomes the problem child. 

This was never more evident when British colonialist ambitions where halted by a nation of 29000 farmers that had to defend against 470 000 British troops and far superior guns in the 1900’s, forcing them to slaughter 27000 woman and children (more than 2/3rds) of a nations jewls.  Also it took only 400 of the same type of calibre that had to defend against 12000 zulu warriors at blood river in the 1800 when it was evident that they will be wiped off the face off the earth, in the end this meant the end of the zulu empire and a start of the end of the british colonialisation.  These afrikaners are all well educated, possess knowledge on how to build weapons of mass destruction, been schooled in surviving on their own for more than 5 decades and have decades of fighting experience.  They are civilised and try to work out things in rightiousness while the world watch the slaughter that is going on, my question, how long will this last.  How much ethnic cleansing will take place before the next wave will come and what will it be?  Shall they turn against their own and the enemy as they had to in the past with dyre consequences, maybe become one of the most feared terrorist groups around the world?  Just look at the pictures on http://www.stopboergenocide.com and you will understand what one of these victims will be capable off in return, if you lost everything dear to you, you become a loose gun with nothing to lose, ask the Iraq and Palistinian people that blow themselves to pieces. Add intelligence and scientific schooling to this, what do you get?.  This simply is a genocide and intimidation of a nation unknown to modern society in terms of it’s brutality, some real good resemblance to old Shaka zulu tactics used to do ethnic cleansing around Southern Africa before Europeans arrived. 

South Africa also is the perfect model for the rest of the world.  If the world becomes one big democracy, what do you think will happen to the farmers out in Texas with their masses of Indian land while a million Chinese live on the same portion of earth on the other side of the earth.  My warning, ignorance does not mean the same thing will happen to your own children, the potential is huge.

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Posted by Dave Johns on January 19, 2009, 09:35 PM | #

Steve,  white people are doomed unless they do the christian thing ....

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Posted by Steve on January 19, 2009, 09:46 PM | #

Dave, please go read the history of Blood River, then you will understand what I mean.  Being christian does not mean sit down and be slaughtered, it also means having rightiousness on your side in battle against what is wrong.

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Posted by Lurker on January 19, 2009, 10:27 PM | #

Dave - I’m not trying to pick a fight with you, we are all on the same side.

I don’t quite agree about Sarah. I think she really was Sarah Briggs, she dropped the Briggs part when I called her on it.

She came here, said some stupid stuff, then ran way like a loser and…that’s it. Would any neutral 3rd party reading the exchange think she had won an argument or scored some sort of tactical victory. I’m not seeing it myself but that’s just me.

I really don’t think she is some high IQ character, didn’t see any evidence of it. Yes, its true she does hold the same opinions as some seemingly well educated, high IQ women. But that’s all they are, opinions, they fall apart under scrutiny. Powerful opinions for all that, but they can be undermined.

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Posted by Ryder on January 20, 2009, 09:04 PM | #

(Dave Johns) I forgot to ask the very astute Ryder and ‘realist’ why they didn’t figure out that the letters in the name “sarah” arranged backwards spells haras. AS IN HARASS! Get it, guys? Maybe now you can see she wasn’t so stupid after-all and she really was playing games with you?

Either you derailed the thread intentionally, or you will simply never get it. 

Liberal assertions need to be debunked.  That was what was happening before you derailed the thread.  Who appointed you nanny?  Who appointed you chief busybody? 

Your input isn’t needed.  If you don’t want to participate in a thread debunking liberal delusions, then just stay out.  I don’t give a flying fuck what her name is; you can read the tea leaves and chicken entrails on your own time.  I don’t care what her motivations were, I care that her anti-white postions were being destroyed and shown for the empty and rancid jokes that they are. 

Is anything coming through on your tinfoil hat?  And if you consider it a marker of high IQ to come onto a board and spout standard liberal delusions, and stand by dimwittingly as they are all shot down, then let’s just say that you have a very different standard of intelligence than what is normally used.  Pure Genius!! In any event, take the hint: if I find value in a thread, I don’t need your hysterical and obsessive whining about how the person is a troll.  The main troll is you.  I hope more “sarahs” come onto the board.  They only help our cause.  People like you only harm it.  Posters can discern for themselves whether a thread has value.  We are denied any voice at all in the mainstream media.  There, the anti-white Sarah’s have free reign.  In one of the few places where we can openly refute them, you seek to prevent even that.  Unreal. 

I love this gem:
(Dave Johns)“And you two want to make a big deal about an insignificant exchange of words that happened on a web-site that hardly anybody even knows about. “

You know what, this is just retarded.  If the discussion is so insignificant, then why do you post so much?  If a particular thread is insignificant, why do you obsessively run around derailing it?  If you believed your own bullshit, you wouldn’t have bothered.  Yet you did.

You see, Dave, I’ve decided that this thread is going to continue to have educational value.  You may have successfully sabotaged and largely ruined the original value of the thread, but now readers are going to learn something new.  Namely, the Dave Johns technique of derailing threads and undermining pro-white positions. 

(Dave Johns) “Come-on, gentlemen. Get your priorities in order.”

Start with yourself.  Stop undermining pro-white posters, and keep your nose out of other people’s business.

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Posted by DJ on January 21, 2009, 07:05 PM | #

“You see, Dave, I’ve decided that this thread is going to continue to have educational value.”

Of course you do, and here’s a continuation of your thought processes:-

Mommy, where’s Daddy?
He’s been gone for so long
Do you think he’ll ever come home?

I was gone for fourteen days
I coulda been gone for more
Held up in the intensive care ward
Lyin’ on the floor

I was gone for all those days
But I was not all alone
I made friends with a lot of people
In the danger zone

See my lonely life unfold
I see it every day
See my only mind explode
Since I’ve gone away

I think I lost some weight there
And I, I’m sure I need some rest
Sleepin’ don’t come very easy
In a straight white vest

Should like to see that little children
She’s only four years old, old
I’d give her back all of her playthings
Even, even the ones I stole

See my lonely life unfold
I see it everyday
See my lonely mind explode
When I’ve gone insane

I wanna get outta here
I wanna get outta here
I, I’ve gotta, I’ve gotta get outta here
I, I gotta get out of here
I gotta get out of here…
Ya gotta let me out of here
Let me outta here…
I gotta get outta here…

See my lonely life unfold
I see it everyday
See my only mind explode
Blow up in my face

I grabbed my hat and I got my coat
And I, I ran into the street
I saw a man that was choking there
I guess he couldn’t breathe
Said to myself, this is very strange
I’m glad it wasn’t me
But now I hear those sirens callin’
And so I am not free

I didn’t wanna be
I didn’t wanna be
I didn’t wanna be
See my lonely life unfold
I didn’t wanna be
I see it every day
Leave me alone I didn’t wanna be
Don’t touch me
See my lonely mind explode
When I’ve gone insane

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Posted by Dave johns on January 21, 2009, 08:39 PM | #

“Is anything coming through on your tinfoil hat?  And if you consider it a marker of high IQ to come onto a board and spout standard liberal delusions, and stand by dimwittingly as they are all shot down, then let’s just say that you have a very different standard of intelligence than what is normally used.”

Here is the kind of guy you, Ryder, look up to:

http://majorityrights.com/index.php/weblog/comments/kaieuropiaccgrin/

Yup, and I’m the one wearing a tinfoil hat?

Okey-dokey!

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Posted by Snowy Smith on July 10, 2009, 04:39 AM | #

WARNING

To:
All WHITES World Wide.
FALSE CRIME STATISTICS, POLICE FRAUD.
ANC GOVERNMENT LIES, LIES, LIES, LIES.
How South African Police Fiddle Crime Statistics.
The Sunday Times Newspaper: 2009_07_04
http://www.thetimes.co.za/News/Article.aspx?id=1028811
GENOCIDE OF WHITES HIDDEN FROM WHITE TOURISTS
Crime Statistics Cover Up.
I TOLD YOU MANY TIMES

More Info
Google:

“South Africa”, Murder, Crime, Rape, Genocide of Whites, Farm Genocide, Farm Murders, Plaasmoorde.

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Posted by Snowy Smith on July 10, 2009, 04:47 AM | #

GENOCIDE OF WHITES by BLACKS South Africa


GENOCIDE of WHITES by BLACKS, South Africa.
Please Report all GENOCIDE, Murder of WHITES
To: The Prosecutor, International Criminal Court, The HAGUE,
Post Office Box 19519, 2500 CM, The Netherlands.

Email: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)
Please use Reference Number: OTP-CR-146/08,
Snowy Smith, Fair Civil Law, 7th April 2008.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
GENOCIDE PHOTOS NEEDED.

GENOCIDE of WHITES,
PHOTOS NEEDED.
faircivillaw AT yahoo.com
P.O. Box 3022,
Durban, 4000,
South Africa.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
MORE CRIME STATISTICS POLICE FRAUD in News Papers today South Africa
2009_07_04
Sunday Times
ANC CRIME STATS COVER UP
South Africa
2010 Soccer Crime Statistics South Africa Cover Up.
FRAUD
ANC GOVERNMENT LIES, LIES, LIES, LIES.
ZUMA FAILED THE SECOND TEST
I TOLD YOU MANY TIMES

++++++++++++++++++++++++++
How South African Police Fiddle Crime Statistics.

How cops fiddle crime statistics
From The Sunday Times:
Published: Jul 04, 2009

http://www.thetimes.co.za/News/Article.aspx?id=1028811

Police in South Africa’s three major provinces are implicated in a conspiracy to make it appear that they are winning the war on crime.
Evidence of manipulating crime statistics — including destroying dockets and failing to register cases — has been exposed in Gauteng, Western Cape and KwaZulu-Natal.
Massive ANC / SAPS Crime Statistics Cover-up fraud finally EXPOSED.
Police FRAUD.


+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

GET RID OF THE BLACK MAID and BLACK Gardener.

8 out of 10 Residential Robberies are committed with the help of information from the BLACK domestic workers.
GET RID OF THE BLACK MAID.
GET RID OF THE BLACK Gardener.
BLACK Robbers commit +- 103 robberies over 7 years before being caught.
97% of BLACK robbers are armed with guns and knives.
Conviction rate for house robberies in South Africa is 7.67%; in the USA it is 53%.

Domestic BLACK Workers
STUPID WHITE LIBERALS
There are 663 000 WHITE home owners paying UIF for their BLACK MAIDS.

663 000

Its time to GET RID OF THE BLACK MAID.
The BLACK Maid and BLACK Gardener are planning YOUR DEMISE.
It has been proven over and over again that any white family that has been attacked in their home the BLACK Maid and or the BLACK Gardener are involved directly or indirectly.
MY ADVICE TO ALL WHITEYS

GET RID OF THE BLACK MAID and BLACK Gardener.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on July 10, 2009, 08:15 AM | #

Thanks for posting those important comments and warnings, Snowy!  God bless you!

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Posted by Rieke on March 23, 2010, 05:09 AM | #

as far as i experienced SA, especially the freestate this whole racist thing has to do with a lack of education. where as we in germany have subjects like ‘ethic’ ‘behavior’ ‘history’ (with good and bad aspects) in school. black kids in SA still think the white people are some kind of god, superior of them and need to be destroyed so they can feel better and live a better life- since only a few of them actually know a white person or made good experiences with them. i’ve also experienced boers behavior! it’s unexeptable. i haven’t met one white freestates citizen who didn’t behave disrespectful towards blacks. -telling me, they’d eat raw meat, put spells on you. did the african sun burn your brain??!!

the real threat are township kids who receive one-sided information: from schools where teachers weather about boers and their racist crimes back in the days, from their parents who work as maid or gardener for some racist asshole who talks to them like kids and pays them a shitloan (who came up with the bullshit: natives can’t handle money and as soon you pay them more they work less efficient??!! wtf??) and the government whose words spread even without tv via church, bar or whatever.

to stop all this yall need to get your shit together! all of you!! offer a hand and start being friendly, respectful, maybe go to the township once in a while. talk to people, have friends there. i promise, this gonna spread as fast as the bad news those kids hear elsewhere and the chance, that they think you are actually pretty cool and the only thing different to them is your pail color will hit them soon too. or talk to your maid! learn a few words sesotho! talk with her about her husband who prolly beats her. or her kids. be a friend! not a slave owner!!

don’t fight hate with hate. it’s not gonna work. have respect, be a real friend (like you’d be to a white person!! listen, go out, have fun!) they prolly won’t kill you for being the coolest person on earth. plus i know africans love mob justice so if you actually know enough people in the townships you can be sure that somebody who tried to harm you is found quickly. wink

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Posted by Emil Hagberg on April 11, 2010, 02:47 PM | #

Sweden: Protest against the genocide in South Africa


On Saturday the 17th of April 2010, the Swedish Resistance Movement (Svenska Motståndsrörelsen) march to the South African
embassy in Stockholm, housing representatives of the ANC government.
We hold the ANC responsible not only for the murder of Eugéne Terre’Blanche, leader of the Afrikaner Weerstandsbeweging (AWB),

but also for the ongoing genocide of whites in South Africa.


Eugéne Terre’Blanche dedicated his life to the struggle for his people and a sovereign state for the white Boer people. Tragically his
life ended, just like thousands of other white farmers, brutally murdered by blacks. Several thousands and yet more, are those who
mourn the loss. We shall never forget his sacrifice!

Therefore we march - under the slogan “Stop the Boer genocide!” - in honor and remembrance for the white leader of the AWB.
But we also march to tell the world about the situation for our kindred people in South Africa. We will tell of a government who in silence
support murder, rape and plunder of whites.

Hereby we call upon our brothers and sisters around the globe to take a stand, no longer can we sit and do nothing as the white population
of South Africa is being murdered. What happens in South Africa today, will happen in our nations tomorrow!

The Swedish Resistance Movement march to the South African embassy in Stockholm on Saturday 17th of April, to show the Boer nation
that they are not alone, that we are with them in their struggle for survival.

We urge YOU to do the same, to show the world that the white race is still a force to reckon with, for this our comrades, IS YOUR DUTY!

- Swedish Resistance Movement
    http://WWW.PATRIOT.NU

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Posted by violet on April 23, 2010, 06:52 PM | #

What is a “a correlation of 400%”? 
Looks like the SA government isn’t the only one who needs a stats class.

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Posted by Olsson owe on May 14, 2010, 01:09 PM | #

No its not Genocide YET but it is still Ethinic Cleansing…

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Posted by Francis O'Maloney on July 20, 2010, 01:15 PM | #

In America,White Jews and White PEOPLE have always helped the black and blacks return the favor by ruining AMERICAN CITIES,killing Whites and raping White women.So what do AMERICAN WHITE MEN DO?THEY RUN.
    Why don’t American or European Whites HELP the BOERS? I am the only White Man whom I know
who has no fear of blacks.
    WHAT A SAD STATE OF AFFAIRS.

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Posted by Css Security on July 29, 2010, 04:01 AM | #

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BECAUSE…

1. No one knew about the attack
2. No one knew that the farmer or his/her family need help urgently
3. The farmer did not have enough time to phone for help
4. Help came too late
5. If security firms or SAPS should know about the situation, what is the response time before they reach that farmer and his family to safe them?
6. The farmer thought it will never happened to him/her this is why he/she did not make provision.

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Posted by Whitey on July 31, 2010, 01:22 PM | #

This genocide is being performed secretly. I advise all readers to spread this information, and petetion all Rights groups world wide to take action, and that the News Media, and your Political leaders be informed. see the following sites and pass them on.

  http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/

  http://www.livingscoop.com/watch.php?v=MTg

  http://barelyablog.com/?p=24577

  http://dienuwesuidafrika.blogspot.com/

  http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/  (Note Comments by Arthur Brigg)

Also Google “Bakersma murder Florida South Africa”

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Posted by Larissa on August 03, 2010, 12:09 PM | #

SA is tying to implement demographic representation, Affirmative Action, Black Economic empowerment… How do u possibly want to take the “wealth” from middle class and poor whites (as they are the ones suffering) and trying to redistribute it… you are taking from 1 to give to 10… Whites have 2 or max. 3 children (if any) – which makes moving forward supposedly easier… Blacks have children by the millions, and then they have the audacity to blame whites for poverty… They STILL HAVE A SLAVE MENTALITY, as they expect to get everything for free, without being prepared to make cultural sacrifices. Each and every other nation had to make cultural reforms (and sacrifices) to get ahead in this world!!!
Children that never saw apartheid receives discrimination as a result of the above mentioned policies! Policies originally created to protect minorities in the FIRST world, are now implemented against minorities in the THIRD world! How idiotic you’re stupid “equality” thinking is – can you reason at all! You have Malema syndrome – and expect you should get everything for FREE!
With regards to the violence- It has been proven globally that Black-on-white violence (in relation) is 7 times higher than White-on-black violence… Yes, we all suffer! But the blacks are the majority offenders… So if you really mean what you say about equality and “equal” rights, abolish the above discriminatory laws, and bring back the death penalty for murderers and rapists! You won’t because you are as everyone just as biased and a racist… But yes, black racism is “politically correct” – I forgot!

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Posted by Larissa on August 03, 2010, 12:19 PM | #

The black people are racist, why are so many black people in white country’s (Europe and America) and we don’t see white people living in Nigeria, Cameroon, ivory cost… and the majority of African country’s, why we don’t see whites in Africa? because blacks are savage and racist people, but we (white people) have to accept black people in our country’s.

By the way Sarah is a fraud! You wouldn’t find any white person in SA thinking like that (what a joke)...Never the less whites are running away from Durban. And whites from Gauteng and Western Cape stopped going there on holiday. It is officially occupied by Blacks. There is no rainbow nation in SA - it is black propaganda!

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Posted by Larissa on August 03, 2010, 12:20 PM | #

In South Africa however, whites barely ever kill blacks, but when a black person does it’s automatically brought up as a racist killing. So, do you honestly believe whites being killed by blacks won’t bring up the racial aspects of it?

White people face genocide on a number of fronts, including cultural, and fiscal genocide. Over 50,000 whites have been murdered since 1994. Over 3,000 of them were farmers, the murder rate of an Afrikaner farmer is 300, that is far too high to just be passed off as crime.

People who try and pass it off as crime, do so because they are racist and trying to cover up reality.

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Posted by Larissa on August 03, 2010, 12:25 PM | #

One only need to say out loud what is happening to understand. Blacks have the worst pass rate in South African schools, so what we do is, we impose “Black Economic Empowerment” which means that those that work the hardest and pass and would be most productive do not get employment, we give their employment to those that we know has the worst pass rate. Sounds logical? The government take away the Commandos which was there to protect those on farms, do we replace those units, no, why? cause there is no protection for Farmers (whites) in the new south Africa, we need the monies to build world cup stadiums which costs billions of rands and name them after the persons that coined “kill a farmer, kill a Boer” We have a murder of a white Boer leader, and we have the ANC the ruling party in south Africa paying the trial costs of the murderers, while the ANC still defend their youth leader Malema who was ordered to stop singing “kill a Boer” and they say the singing has got nothing to do with the genocide of the Boers? Do the world really get the message, do they really understand? This is not about logic, or politics, it is about simple eradication, removal of a tribe to get what they posses. What happens when the black do not get what they want? Just look at the municipal workers strike, they are the ones cleaning the streets, and now what do they do, they destroy and vandalize, tomorrow they have to clean it up again, logical? When the Afrikaaners strike……….. what Afikaaners strike? I think that last happened in the 1930?s in mining. “God vresend”, “Trots” en “Integriteit” Altyd ‘n Afrikaaner !!! Sometimes it is just easier to believe the media (ever heard anything good about the Palestinians in media, or even seen a movie where a Palestinian is a hero, no although I can recall many where they would use the look or colors to be the terrorist) And is the world really helping the Palestinians? No. I thank any people willing to or even just trying for the truth to be known, before the history books change and our children will believe they exist only to be brutalized by the black masses.

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Posted by Kenny on August 05, 2010, 05:56 AM | #

Dear Sarah / Sarah Biggs

Not sure what exactly you tried to prove by all your comments??

Clearly you are the same person, as I can clearly see you said something as Sarah Biggs, got asked a question by someone else and then replied to that person as Sarah??????

Just dont understand why you would deny it.. very odd person you are.

And just for the record, I am living in south africa myself and by saying you don’t know of any friends or family members who have been affected by crime in SA…. is really something I find hard to believe.
Because you seriously must be the 1% of South Africans who have not been affected by crime.

Just about my whole family has immigrated overseas due to crime and affirmative action.
Apartheid was wrong, I agree, I do not support it,  reversing the roles however does not improve the situation or make the problem go away.

And that is a problem in South Africa and until that problem goes away, South Africa will not get better.

The government however does not see this as a problem, they see it as correcting the wrongs of the past!  The only way to get over the past is to move on.  And constantly we as South Africans are reminded of the past, it gets thrown in our faces everyday - and the best part about it is that the young adults and youth of today suffer for the wrongs inflicted before they were even born.

That is why so many white south africans leave south africa.  They refuse to get subjected to restrictions and red tape placed upon them because of their colour. (hense the reversal of roles mentioned above)

Interesting thought however… what would become of South Africa if all ethno-europeans (whites) left South Africa and Africans where left to their own devices??

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Posted by Larissa on August 17, 2010, 06:17 AM | #

http://crime-of-apartheid.co.nr  - It may find you an answer…

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Posted by gramexame on August 20, 2010, 04:29 PM | #

Let’s stop with this bullshit white guilt relating to blacks.First of all, they themselves know they are not only uncapable of developing a civilization,modern as we know it,since they never created even their own alphabet,so as a consequence they only produced literature and their own history having to use alphabets introduced by the european colonizers.But they know by experience,that the whites treated them better than their own black rulers.That their voodoo doctors could not be compared to the white doctors,and that the whites brought with them magical wonders(that we call technological gadgets),that couldn”‘t be reproduced by magical thinking.

If a white man feels ashamed to be considered a racist because he sees himself in a superior stage of civilization compared to a black man,he should then as a logical consequence cut all his links to modern civilization,and turn back to living in nature in an anti-technological society.If he did that I would respect him as a coherent person.But no,as a feeble minded person he has to go on and on and on ,blaming the “cruel white’exploiters” for the misfortunes of the exploited 3d. world people.He knows he is unable to survive in a primitive society,that is the reason for his masochistic self flagelation:mea culpa,mea culpa.

The black man in contrast laughs at all his mental weakness and take advantage of his guilt complexes,by demanding more and more give me this and that,you are the reason for our poverty,etc,etc.At the end they will be unable to reproduce western civilization as we know it.

The day that the last white south africans leave the country,is the day that the scapegoat will disappear,and then all the savagery of the niggers will turn against each other.I hope they will slaughter each other by the millions like they do in the rest of Africa.As a white brazilian i know their mentality very well.Don"t be afraid to think or say it.IT IS THE NAKED TRUTH.

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Posted by Larissa on August 23, 2010, 05:41 AM | #

This is so true - like it or not - Africa at its best

Old black man and his wife are lying in bed in Harare,,, they have had no electricity for 7 months and the tap stopped producing water a year before,,, he is lying in his bed sweating from a very curable illness which has not been treated due to lack of medicine,,, they are both hungry as there has been no world relief food coming in,,, his wife is coughing up blood as she has bad TB,,, while they are lying on there bed the tap starts running and the lights suddenly come on , the TV starts playing an and add comes on for food at the local shelter,,,,, the old man struggles to his feet coughing and wheezing and says to his wife,,, quick,,, bring my panga,,, the whites are back!!!!!

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Posted by Larissa on August 23, 2010, 05:43 AM | #

That’s what happens when you give rights to people who have the mentallity of a 4 year old. It’s pretty much the same thing as giving a year old a loaded gun to play with, isn’t it?

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Posted by Guessedworker on August 23, 2010, 07:33 AM | #

I think it was Rushton who stated that the mental age corresponding to IQ 70 for an average European would be eleven.

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Posted by Larissa on August 25, 2010, 12:43 PM | #

Please stayed tuned for the next hilarious episode of “The idiot’s guide to destroying a country in one generation.”

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Posted by Larissa on September 18, 2010, 04:32 AM | #

Back to Africa

Johann Wingard, Ph.D. - 5/6/2010

This week it is exactly 24 months since I wrote the following words in my article in the Global Politician: “Jacob Zuma and the Afrikaners”:

“The scene is set for a reversal of the cultural tensions set by Mbeki’s infamous “Two Nations” speech, when he said that South Africa has two nations, a rich white one and a poor black one. The degree of polarization that followed is hard to imagine for an outsider. Zuma wishes to change all of that.” I also wrote positively about Jacob Zuma’s willingness to listen to minorities.”

But those words were written in a pre-Polokwane paradigm.

During the 52nd Annual national conference of the ANC during the previous December, a number of new and strenuous policy decisions were taken by the conference. These would be executed by the incoming president, who will have no alternative but to implement them. Most people, like myself included, considered those decisions as a mere wish list.

It was on that condition that Zuma replaced Thabo Mbeki. The kingmakers were the ANC Youth League, who probably represents more than 50% of that party’s voting power. It has to be remembered that 70% of the black population is younger than 35 year of age. More than half of that demographic group is jobless, half illiterate and live in abject misery. With the skewed concept of a liberal democracy which is based on numbers only, it so happens that it is that demographic group that is now ruling South Africa. They now decide on the priorities and policies,

So, that was not a wish list!

Two and a half years after Polokwane, I now realise that I was wrong about Zuma’s effectiveness as a President. Not about Zuma the man per se, but about his leadership capability to control his party. Today it is clear that the President of South Africa is no longer a national leader, but merely a tool that executes ANC policy decisions taken at the ANC’s annual conferences. He has to implement decisions that will favour only the ANC. Although he professes to represent the South African nation, and has taken the oath of office accordingly, he does not act in that manner.

In fact, his sole strategic focus has become one of perpetuating the hegemony of the African National Congress in South Africa.

The President has thus become an empty egg shell, something like the ostrich eggs being sold at tourist shops with a hole on the one end. No longer the bearer of life or of future prospects; no longer the nation’s moral leader, but a devastated mind living in the perpetuated darkness of an evacuated soul. He has been deprived of all judgement, good or bad, and has to act in accordance with pronouncements as dictated by the Youth League, as verbalised by Julius Malema, that 28 year old little black Hitler, who is a self professed hater of white tendencies, as he puts it.

Western morality has therefore been thrown out of the window to make way for an African morality. No consideration is given to the fact that the country is home to two different and conflicting civilizations, which demand constant compromises. In any civilised country his latest extra-marital child with a young girl would have cost him his job, but African morality dictates that sex is part of man’s instinctive rights. His 25 children with several women, some his wives, others not, is considered to be testimony of his manhood in a culture where virility makes the man, not his mind. Is it surprising that there are 5,7 million South Africans who are HIV positive?

A live bull was killed by 25 young men with their bare hands at the marriage ceremony with his third wife earlier this year. This barbaric ritual defied any western notion of animal care or civilized sensitivities. The noise, dust and blood that ensued had to prove that the young blacks have reached manhood – that they should be admired by all.

Blood, violence and sex maketh the man in that culture, as demonstrated by the cruel torture, rape and murder of more than 3,000 white farmers during the past ten years – nearly one every day! The politicians and police describe these dastardly acts as criminal activities by a poor section of society, but in most cases nothing was stolen other than the lives of civilised and law abiding people.

The western section of the community, which accounts for more than five million in total, some white, others coloured, must swallow their sentimental notion of a civilised society and sweat it out for the next number of years, awaiting the implosion of this macabre society. Whether the implosion will be accompanied by a violent war or not, will depend on the intervention of that same international society, which removed the white government in 1994.

Yes, that is a part of Jacob Zuma I never met before. Yes he has taken the country back into Africa.
Dr Wingard is an energy consultant and retired industrialist, who chaired the Statutory Volkstaat Council from 1994 to 1996. He authored the handbooks Towards a Synfuels Economy and Technology Transfer: an Industry Perspective. In addition to the Global Politician, he has contributed several articles to the South African Financial Press. You can email him at: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)

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Posted by daniel on November 02, 2010, 04:43 AM | #

this is bullshit

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Posted by Sohaib Arif on November 06, 2010, 05:17 PM | #

I came across this site through some ad. I am socked that something like this exists today.
It appears I stumbled on some kind of KKK site. I know that a lot of white supremacists will ignore me but weren’t you the ones perpetrating these heinous crimes before the blacks. Do they not have a right to get revenge?  They would be the bigger people if they don’t but not everyone can be so forgiving as the Pakistanis(whose current leaders are busy licking your boots for money), Indians(who still occasionally insult you in their movies), Palestinians(who moronically still hope you will help them after leaving them homeless for Israeli money), Saudis(Al Quaida would not even exist if they weren’t allied with you during the siege of the Kaaba,according to the official explanation of Al Quaida’s inception) and others you oppressed.

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Posted by wow gold on June 22, 2011, 03:28 AM | #

Indians(who still occasionally insult you in their movies), Palestinians(who moronically still hope you will help them after leaving them homeless for Israeli money)

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Posted by Hendrik on June 29, 2011, 08:33 AM | #

Sohaib, so this is the way it is going to be. We will be at each other’s throats till Kingdom come(which you most probably don’t believe) I am a white South African male, a true-blood Afrikaner. If we don’t get peace, we WILL find a way to the top again, bathed in blood or not. We will not be ridden bareback by an Afro-sentric West on an immense guilt trip.  We refuse to be bullied by that little tyrant, Malema. In the end, we will be in charge again, and because of people like you with an equally sick attide. we will not play nice.  ,

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Posted by Arthur on July 04, 2011, 06:08 PM | #

I was told the following story by a decent and sincere Zimbabwean. It went something like this: a young man who had voted for Zanu pf was home with his Father in the country and wanted to celebrate Mugabes election victory in 1980.

My Father lets celebrate, slaughter a cow, bring the sorghum bear, bring the drums, bring the dancers for today
I and all others who voted ZANU PF will get a house, we will get a top job, we will get a nice car and even get a farm.

His wise old Father said to him. My son, my son you will cry. You will cry

His son replied no Father, no Father lets celebrate, slaughter a cow, bring the sorghum bear, bring the drums, bring the dancers for today I and all others who voted ZANU PF will get a house, we will get a top job, we will get a nice car and even get a farm.

My son, my son you will cry.

This continued for a while but the son never believed his Father but rather believed Mugabe.

Years later on his Fathers death bed he lamented to his Father.

Father you were right I am now crying, I am now crying.

The morale of the story is never believe politicians. They will lie to get your vote.

In Africa there are more failed states then anywhere in the world.

South Africa is also a failed state. Pre 94 everything worked. Now everything has failed. afarom Eduction to justice to Roads etc.

Whites must leave before it is too late. We are not wanted.

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Posted by Hendrik on July 06, 2011, 04:54 AM | #

Where to? We have no Motherland. Stand and deliver. That is our future, and by God, we will.

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Posted by Stowe on August 14, 2011, 01:34 PM | #

Stop ALL relief to Africa.  Boycott diamonds, vacations.  Identify the whites who are supporting the status quo in South Africa.

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Posted by Sean Ezmer on October 10, 2011, 05:52 PM | #

Knowing this I will never go to South Africa or buy any african products. I will help in almost any form that I can.
But seriously if I was in that situation and I could emigrate I would. Well, to those who can’t I can only say Good Luck May God help you ...

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Posted by Brian Mc Cann on January 08, 2012, 02:18 PM | #

I am a so called coloured and i dont know where i fit into this discussion.But friends and foes i have experienced and suffered racism first hand for my my entire 53 years; first as a second class citizen and then as part of the designated group after 1994.About 3months ago i was denigrated and called a hotnot by an afrikaner male in Bellville.Two months prior to that an afrikaner lady meted out her racist venom on me.My question is:What is it going to take for racism to stop in our country?Where is this country going to?Why is Malema so militant againts the afrikaner minority?Why does he have such a huge following with the black youth-the same youth earmarked to be the leaders of tomorrow.Why is the majority of the afrikaner volk that i have brushed shoulders with so obsessed with race and racist apartheid style classification? I have moved on.Why can’t they?(as if they had suffered racism in the past). We might need each other in future to ensure our continued survival in the land of our birth. If i as a suburban individual experience such racism what is the situation in the rural areas; let alone Malema’s rhetoric and the unabated farm murders.How deep-seated is racism in the rural areas.Enough to justify a ‘cleansing campaigne’?.What sinister force lurks behind this genocide?As a so called coloured i am not at liberty to take a stance in this killing sprees because we as a race group has always occupied the middle ground in all developments in our country.These farm killing has affected me psychologically!Clearly this is orchestrated violence againts fellow citizens - and a well oiled killing machinery at work.Knowing and being a spectator to the violent nature of some black people in this country and the rest of Africa i fear for my continued existence in the country of my birth.Awaiting for a 1975 Mosambique style genocide to happen is no joke.Call it being paranoid but all the proper ingredients are at hand and the pot is simmering!It’s just a matter of time!

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Posted by Leon Haller on February 17, 2012, 07:09 AM | #

Brian McCann,

There is no hope for your country, or for you as someone not accepted by the pure black majority.

The basic problem with all black-run societies is that they are inevitable failures. The best thing for the black majority would have been continued white rule, with some cosmetic changes. Instead of idiotically just giving the black majority total enfranchisement tout court, the whites should have been at once more enlightened, and more ruthless. On the latter front, they were always too ‘liberal’ and/or Christian (I speak as a Christian, concerned about ethics and ‘doing the right thing’) in dealing with black insurgents, especially the communists. They should have hung Mandela in the 60s! He deserved it. Instead, they allowed him to become a martyr of the International Left. And they should have ‘disappeared’ a lot more leftists. Their model should have been that of the great Pinochet of Chile, the hero who began the rollback of communism.

On the former front, the whites ought to have practiced a kind of moral and ideological affirmative action. That is, they should have identified the most mentally gifted black boys from a young age, taken them from their parents (not coercively, but by offering the parents money, which would not have had to have been very much), and educated them in a very rigorous Christian and ideologically conservative way, stressing both Christianity (in part as an antidote to Marxism), and the superiority for blacks of both private property rights and continued white rule. They would have been grooming them for leadership positions within their own communities (but in such a way that they would have personal stakes in the stability of the white-dominant System). And then they should have created those black leadership positions. Blacks should, in other words, have had more to aspire to within the System.

The whites also should have made more of an effort to teach blacks basic business skills, and to encourage business formation. Finally, of course, the stupid Boers should have been far more vigorous in promoting contraceptive use among blacks, as well as working for female empowerment (which dramatically lessens fertility), while simultaneously arranging the whole of their society around maximizing white fertility.

The stupid whites, in SA as everywhere else, have never practiced overt and rational demographic (cold) warfare. Indeed, the problem with the SA whites was always that theirs was a Racist State, without being a Racial State. The tragedy was that they, of all places on Earth, could have run a successful Racial State.

Please know that I was alive and saying all this over two decades ago, when the traitor de Klerk betrayed his people, and your country. I recall arguing with liberal classmates about SA’s likely fate. Of course, I was right, in the event.

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Posted by uh on February 17, 2012, 09:18 AM | #

Hallerious,

The whites also should have made more of an effort to teach blacks basic business skills, and to encourage business formation.

If they were at all capable of sustaining business at the level it takes to generate national wealth, they would be doing so. Instead, with the exception of Botswana I think, they are mostly corrupt. It isn’t that kaffirs can’t learn skills, it’s that they can’t maintain industry — which is totally foreign to them as an evolutionary tangent from the MRCA.

As for what the South Africans felt was in their best interests:

http://books.google.com/books?id=oXxCAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA325&lpg=PA325&dq=kaffir+socialism&source=bl&ots=i-WZtVZkrM&sig=9Kkm4KJfdf0xHzW2628HkkW4Gjo&hl=en&sa=X&ei=NmA-T82TJKOSiQKKy_i3AQ&ved=0CCwQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=kaffir socialism&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=EqMSAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f;=false

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Posted by Leon Haller on February 17, 2012, 10:14 AM | #

Not sure you read my post @187 very carefully. You totally missed my point. I wasn’t discussing all blacks, or implying anything about blacks and industry. I was referring to getting a talented tenth to identify with the white-dominant System. And I had in mind basic business skills, for small-scale productive enterprises. Heavy industry, which would have employed most blacks, would of course have remained in white hands.

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Posted by uh on February 17, 2012, 01:35 PM | #

I was referring to getting a talented tenth to identify with the white-dominant System. And I had in mind basic business skills, for small-scale productive enterprises.

You’re right, I didn’t — up early with no coffee.

FWIW this has worked, so far, in Belize and Bermuda. The former has a token Black government but nearly all industry is in the hands of Indians, Mennonites, Chinese and Americans. The Bermudan administration is actually Colored, with fewer Indians in business, but neither class seems to identify with the victim cult of American negroes.

http://www.thebermudian.com/people/631

I would live in either statelet. Belize is more corrupt than Bermuda though owing to Black / Indian nepotism.

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Posted by Antonetta on February 23, 2012, 06:01 AM | #

“Google censorbugbear”

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Posted by Lurker on February 23, 2012, 08:37 AM | #

Thank you Antonetta. In fact MR has linked to Censorbugbear since October 9 last year. I know how assiduous everyone is in checking out all those links. wink

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Posted by theodore joubert. on June 15, 2012, 06:41 PM | #

I think those who are not afrikaans/boere/white south africans of european(not british) ancestry must understand that sarah is a soutie, aka an english person from south africa, sarah van der merwe? You sound like a coloured ..!.. Jy klink soos n kleurling. Souties or salties in english detest afrikaners and protested against appartheid running to britain and complaining about us mean afrikaners being so terrible and into war (we are the modern spartans look it up), and now when afrikaners are granted asylum abroad these souties with their cowardly british roots try to convince foreign embassies that they are afrikaners/boere to be allowed to run away, how sad.

Secondly there is no such thing as “white and black afrikaans people”, like in europe it’s all about nationalism to us, for example in france non-whites may be born france and speak it’s tongue, but they are still not french nor considered french. Afrikaners are white south africans of german, dutch and french ancestry, and while non-afrikaners also speak afrikaans, it does not make them afrikaans. A zulu cannot be a boer and vice versa you uneducated soutie imbecile.

And finally look out for wannabe afrikaners from durban or capetown, very few afrikaners reside in these areas, mostly soutie. Pretoria, vrystaat, noord-wes, limpopo and mpumalanga is where you will find the afrikaner majority, especially in pretoria where we are more than other races.

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Posted by theodore joubert. on June 16, 2012, 02:15 AM | #

Maybe mc cann because. Whether you like it or not whites are genetically-superior to other races. 1stly each race has it strengths, but none come close to the many strengths of whites. Secondly how can you expect us to not be racist towards our enemy? Other races detest us and we detest then, whether you like it or not under afrikaners south africa had a military that could beat any nato country in a conventional war (we are considered the spartans of modern-warfare, people consider our ruthlessness and ferocity a cultural asset), we also beat the soviet union, portugal and swapo simultaneously despite being greatly out-numbered whilst at the same time still kicking the anc’s asses into going over seas to beg for help to isolate us from the world. When afrikaners gave over this country we were not told that there would b.e.e, or that we would lose our human right along with civil rights and thus not be protected by the un(look that up too before you get all cry baby). I was born in 1991 in the north-west, when I was 6 my father’s business got taken away by the government because he was white (that’s literally the reason) and we were forced to move to pretoria to survive. Is that fair? Is this a rainbow nation? No there is no white in a rainbow. I grew up racist in the new south africa because this is reverse-appartheid and reverse-racism you uneducated fool. You expect us to be nice to those who are our enemy? Should we hold the hands of the murderers of the innocent children and women that get gang-raped and mutilated? Wake-up, there is no logic in your complaint. I am a product of my placement, I am oppress and thus seek to oppress and thus discriminate towards my oppressors. While you do not go to an afrikaner and say “hey you boertjie white piece of shit”, you do not need to, your actions prove you are a severe-racist. And as for you getting discriminated against when you talk to afrikaners, why not take a hint? We are a european culture with european values, we do not really want to converse with other races in general, nor flirt or bond with them. Walking to speak to an afrikaner when it is clear they are not interested is directly instigating us to act racist towards you. You do not go to a mosque with pork do you? Do you go into israel with a swastika (which I love btw!) Tattooed on you? No, so why cry when you choose to commit the same offenses towards afrikaners? You do not respect our way so we do not respect you. Secondly 50 people a day die in south africa, only one of them are white, and half of the time they are not afrikaners, 43 of those are black. Whites in south africa account for 9 percent of the population, so if you do the math you would see that though you have the army now, we are still fucking you up by means of the awb, boeremag and boere kommando. (Afrikaners invented the commando style and recon special-forces). Go cry on a forum for coloureds, you purposely come here to provoke by commenting on a situation you are bias towards.

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Posted by Jason Louw on June 16, 2012, 06:41 AM | #

@ Sarah Briggs . You make me vomit. I live in the East rand and have had two close friends raped and tourtured to death in the last 3 months F..k you…..

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Posted by Tom on July 17, 2012, 09:51 AM | #

Sarah Briggs is a White Liberal living in America.  I’ve been around these indoctrinated Cultural Marxists long enough to spot them a mile away.  It’s probably not even a woman.  The White Liberal morons in the West gave slobbering praise to a Syrian Lezbo Blogger (I’m not kidding) with the same mindless slogans of “brave” and “real.”  She turned out to be a he.  And he turned out to be a fat white American Liberal moron living in Europe.

There is nothing more treacherous, more racist, more hateful, more brain-dead than an American Leftist.  They are the stupidest, most indoctrinated human beings ever to blog.  They’re so indoctrinated they NEED to lie.  They can’t help it.  And when this race war comes they need to be the first to get shot dead on the spot.  Just look for the Obama bumper-sticker and squeeze.

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Posted by chris on July 29, 2012, 01:54 PM | #

Dr. Gregory Stanton from The Genocide Watch in a news conference in Pretoria , South Africa with a new statement on the level of genocide on Afrikaner people: Youtube video link: google this link on youtube: youtu.be/ylKgntJcP4s

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Posted by Baltis on September 19, 2012, 09:54 AM | #

Politics: “poli” meaning “many”; “ticks” meaning “blood-sucking parasites”.

Politics: many blood-sucking parasites.

“It is very simple to see that democracy is a lie and a confidence-trick. All you have to do is analyse what it is supposed to be and then compare that definition to the reality.

Democracy is supposed to be the rule of the majority. Government of the majority of the people, for the majority of the people, by the majority of the people.

Let us now compare the smooth deceptive definition, to stark reality.

In the western world approximately 95% of the wealth is possessed by approximately 5% of the people. That means, using these same figures, that 95% of the people, the overwhelming majority, possess only 5% of the wealth.

The politicians would have us all believe that this is the will of the majority. That is the politician’s idea of what they call democracy.

When did the 95% of people, the overwhelming majority, ever vote for the right for themselves to be poor and vote for the tiny 5% minority to possess their own (the poor people’s) share of the nation’s wealth, that the poor majority’s ancestors have fought and died to protect?

The Ruler of the Universe has prohibited democracy because He knew that the rich would use it and other means to deceive and rip everyone else off; keep the majority down and poor; just as He wrote, via His Prophets in The Bible.

He gave the world, via Moses, the perfect system of government, under which there is no poverty; no poor people and consequently no need to resort to crime to survive.

He prohibited the writing of laws and economic policies by humans, in order to protect the majority from abuse, and oppression created under the home-made laws of the rich and powerful.jahtruth.net/democra.htm

So what do we do about it??
http:sa.2012jubilee.info

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Posted by Jurie Gryffenberg on September 24, 2012, 09:57 PM | #

Here are the facts:
1. Black South Africans have no more historical claim to the land than white South Africans. The original South Africans (occupying what is today more or less the Cape Provinces) were the Khoi and the San tribes whose descendants are neither white nor black and who are now one of many other minority and disenfranchised groups living in South Africa.
2. At the same time that white pioneers (Boers) were ‘trekking’ into the interior of South Africa other black tribes, like the Xhosa, were migrating from the north and the two groups met for the first time around the region of the Kei river. This is where the first border conflicts between ‘whites’ and ‘blacks’ occurred in South Africa.
3. These first conflicts were not as a result of greed for land or power but due to unfortunate cultural differences and misunderstandings.
4. The reason that white Boers were ‘trekking’ into the interior was mainly to escape colonial rule. These pioneers were very religious, as most of their descendants are today, and although it would be reasonable to assume that a criminal element (fleeing justice in the colonies perhaps) may have been present among some of the trekkers, the vast majority of these people were, honest, hard working, peace loving people.
5. Another ‘black’ tribe that the Boers later ran into were the Zulu tribe whose king was a man by the name of Dingaan. The Boer leader at the time, Louis Trichardt, entered into a treaty with the Zulu king that would ensure peace between the two nations. Under the pretence of celebration of the new treaty, Dingaan lured Trichardt and his men, unarmed, into his ‘kraal’ (village) where they were all brutally murdered.
6. The ancestors of many of today’s white South Africans came to South Africa from Europe because they were fleeing either economic hardship or oppression in Europe, later to suffer only under the oppression of colonial powers and then to suffer further atrocities committed by British Governor, Lord Kitchener, during and towards the end of the Anglo-Boer wars.
7.  27,927 Boers (of whom 24,074 [50 percent of the Boer child population] were children under 16) had died of starvation, disease and exposure in concentration camps. Today, Boer men are generally known to be extremely protective of women and children.
8. Most Boers will NEVER migrate from South Africa, they have literally invested far too much blood in their beloved land which, second only to their religious beliefs, is the most sacred thing they have.
9. Racial segregation in South Africa began in colonial times under Dutch and British rule. It was introduced more than a century later as official policy under a newly elected ‘National Party’ following the general election of 1948. The policy was called Apartheid.
10. In 1992, despite calls by right wing parties to boycott the event, an unprecedented block of white voters (85.08%), cast their votes in the apartheid referendum. The overwhelming majority of whites (68.73%) voted FOR the abolition of apartheid and on 27 April 1994, South Africa held its first multi-racial elections.
11. On 16 May 2011 the Southern Gauteng High Court in Johannesburg ruled that the singing of the song ‘Kill the Boer’ by ANCYL leader Julius Malema was incitement to genocide. The ruling was sufficient for the United Nations’ genocide watch to reduce the genocide alert level from level 6 back down to 5 (level 7 is regarded full blown genocide which warrants military intervention by global military powers).
12. On 8 January 2012, after giving a speech at the ANC Centennial 2012 celebrations in Bloemfontein, South African president Jacob Zuma sang the the same song with the lyrics ‘Kill the Boer’ that got Julius Malema convicted of hate speech in the first place.
13. Over 3000 racially motivated killings of mostly white Afrikaners (Boers) have occurred in South Africa since independence. The murders are particularly brutal and the bodies desecrated in similar fashion to the murders preceding the genocides in Burundi and Rwanda.
14. History teaches us that we never learn from history so the question is, is the world going to allow this to happen again??????

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Posted by Lyle de bruin on January 23, 2013, 03:53 AM | #

I find all comments made by most white people as funny, how many black people were killed by your government during its rule? the land that you forcefully took from their ancestors was taken violently.

I am not condoning any genocide or what so ever but am amused that when ever there is a white man killed in SA noise is made, but was this kind of noise made when your white police RAPED black women, killed black kids and man in SA?

Am a white man born in South Africa but now living in England due to my father’s work as he is in the media industry my mother is African of Venda background and i was raised in the Venda way.

My father was a photographer working for The Star in the 1970’s, every time he would show us the things that white people were doing to the blacks, the killings were so bad that he would cry, black women were being raped and killed by either white farmers, police or soldiers but the blacks just kept to their faith.

This people were treated like outcasts in their own land, their movements were monitored, black peoples movement was limited in their own land, is that fair? my mother is from a royal family in Venda, most of the land that belonged to her family was taken by the white farmers, is that fair too?

As for genoside, i think the main issue here is being distorted, those so called “black” criminals that target white people are not of the mission to face-out white people in SA, most black people are of the opinion that white south african are wealth so when they carry out their criminal activities they mostly target whites due to that stereotyping.

I know how blacks were mistreated and degraded, i was there during the apartheid rule, it was bad and inhuman, blacks were not given any economic participation opportunities at all.

n a nut shell, let the blacks rule themselves, if you have a problem with that then MOVE OUT and avoid being killed, taxed and picked on as you think you are.

One thing i hate about myself is that my father is WHITE, these race is so arrogant and think they are superior over other races, we think the world revolves around us, well you know what it does not….leave the ANC alone and ship out, LET THE BLACKS DO THEIR OWN THING IN THEIR OWN LAND

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Posted by Fran on January 26, 2013, 08:10 PM | #

Humans an evolutionary cul-de-sac in all their shades. 

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Posted by anon on April 06, 2013, 07:27 AM | #

Actually the original inhabitants of SA are the bushmen. SA was then colonised by blacks from northern areas of Africa and whites from Europe. The ANC likes to classify all non-whites as blacks whenever it’s close to elections….....but in reality true blacks are favoured over coloured, indians, etc in job placements. The ANC has a fixation with what the whites have….....they have chased them out of the government sector jobs and now that whites are succeeding in the private sector, the ANC wants to parasitically destroy that as well through BEE. Ask yourself this: why is it that many Indians and coloureds made a success of themselves during apartheid? It is a well known fact that cultural groups tend to stick together: that is why you will see in SA Indian businesses, Muslim family businesses, Zulu family businesses, Xhosa family businesses….. why are Afrikaans and English speaking people not allowed to have “white only” businesses?

In 1900 there were 1million whites and 3million blacks. In 2011 there were 4million whites and 40million blacks. Obviously the rate of industrialisation and development could not keep up with the population explosion of blacks during the apartheid era (despite being oppressed).......blacks had more children than they could afford to look after and so the poverty cycle was perpetuated…...and the tax money of the currently 5 million registered tax payers (which is supposed to provide services for 50million people) is being squandered by ANC political elite sitting on the gravy train….....but now they need someone to blame: well in SA the handy scapegoat is apartheid and the whites.

Whites have just as much right to live in SA as blacks have a right to live in the USA. The only difference is that whites in SA are now being legally discriminated against - they are paying taxes but their rights are being eradicated and they are being attacked by official hate speech by the government. You can find a you tube video where the president (Jacob Zuma) sings “kill the boer” at the 2012 ANC centenary celebration. Note that this was AFTER the song was banned as hate speech. By this act the PRESIDENT of SA has violated his oath and committed treason, and signalled to all his followers that he endorses the murder of white farmers. Tell me, in which other country in the world is the president allowed to be so openly racist against communities living in his/her own country?

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Posted by Timothy on June 01, 2013, 07:47 AM | #

My apologies on behalf of millions of Americans, since our government helped dismantle your country and left you Afrikaners without control of your own destiny as a people.  “They” are now busily deconstructing the American nation and culture through massive Third World immigration and socialism.  For that reason, you will not want to relocate here or to Canada, which has the same problems.  Try Australia, New Zealand, or Europe itself.  I would agree staying in the RSA is madness, because you are very obviously marking time until a full-scale slaughter.  We are looking into relocating to Scotland when it becomes a country, if they will have us.  This, after 12 generations of our family living in the U.S.  Most of all, work toward departing the RSA; use tourist or student visas, or marry a foreign national, to get your foot in the door, and then send for the relatives.

If it were me (and I have always relied on fear as being a valuable instinct) I would spend my time making steps, no matter how small, to get me and my loved ones out.

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Posted by Gunnar Edholm on June 05, 2013, 03:38 PM | #

Being a Swede I have put blame on the Swedish government who supported ANC and carry a responsibility for the genocide that White South African Farmers and others has become victim for.

From the deep of my heart I hate this country Sweden for putting a blind eye to the ongoing genocide in South Africa.

I will contact people I know that has a say in International Politics to see if there are any way to put pressure on the SA government to make a full stop even if it means that sanctions against SA has to be put at place.

I urged anyone to do something to stop this horrifying act.

Lets adopt people we can all take people to us and give them their life back.

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Posted by AM on September 06, 2013, 11:26 AM | #

@ Lyle de Bruin: The indigenous people of SA are the Khoi and San, not the blacks. Blacks and whites dispossessed these people in different parts of SA, so the blacks do not have legal rights to the whole of SA. There were NO blacks in the Western Cape and Northern Cape when whites settled there. The blacks were left to rule themselves in their homelands, which were the areas where the different tribes had already settled anyway. Each homeland had it’s own tribe with it’s own leader and traditions and language - what’s wrong with that? They even got money from the white SA taxpayers to help them to develop, and white SA built infrastructure (roads, schools, hospitals, universities) for blacks in their homelands where there was NO infrastructure previously using white tax payers’ money. Black people were still living traditional lifestyles when whites arrived in SA, so blacks had no western education or skills, which is why many blacks became labourers and white taxpayers supported the homelands in order to uplift the blacks.

However, you will find that at the end of apartheid, the blacks had not been able to develop their homelands very well…......they were then GIVEN white SA in 1994…......now that they have ruled SA for 20years they have managed to run it into the ground.

 

 

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Posted by abdinasir yassin on September 07, 2013, 05:28 AM | #

africa for africans black africans boers they must return to holland

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Posted by George on June 29, 2014, 05:37 PM | #

White South Africans should be well armed and organized or mass immigration facilitated to Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Holland, England and America.

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