The precentor and the dragon

Posted by Al Ross on February 19, 2006, 12:18 AM | #

Although I am an atheist, I did, in fact, know the precentor’s role in the effeminate flummery and Roman-derived mumbo-jumbo of the church which is the natural outgrowth of Henry VIII’s divorce proceedings.

Posted by Andrew on February 19, 2006, 01:22 AM | #

Did you throw the Fat Dragon on the Bar-be Q,  At the L W C Canungra, we referred to them as tree climbing crocks, and if you saw one running towards you , HIT THE DECK Fast, or their claws would rip you apart. In their natural environment of course. Have not eaten one though, and in their mad panic, they just might mistake you for a tree. Not as food, but escape. They are as intellectual astute as your average Arab, Not very.
Now what was the question about the Precentors?
At least they are not Squawking from a Tower, sounding like a fog horn on heat. Five times a day? Hmmmm.

Posted by James Bowery on February 19, 2006, 02:28 PM | #

What is a precentor?  You haven’t a clue have you?  Shame!  A precentor is a senior official of a cathedral or other large ecclesiastical establishment.  It is all part of your European Christian background and culture.  To defend your culture you first have to know about it.  So try harder….I must admit that I was a bit fuzzy about what precentors actually did

Here’s what’s more important than knowing minutae about one’s culture:

Know what drove the evolution of one’s culture.

Know that and you can then separate the wheat from the chaff, the diamonds from the rough, among the minutae.

Posted by Steve Edwards on February 19, 2006, 04:05 PM | #

“What is a precentor?  You haven’t a clue have you?  Shame!  A precentor is a senior official of a cathedral or other large ecclesiastical establishment.  It is all part of your European Christian background and culture.  To defend your culture you first have to know about it.  So try harder”

As with all John Ray posts, one must cut through the obfuscations and sophistries to weed out the subtext - in this case, the real argument is that anybody who cannot spell and/or define any chosen European word (as nominated by John Ray) automatically has their right to self-determination abrogated. In John Ray’s mind, it follows that you might as well abolish your own ethnic group (and replace it with “polite Indians”) because you happened to fail a random spot test imposed by John Ray.

I don’t think we will ever know the full extent of the psychopathy required for one to take this argument seriously.

Posted by jonjayray on February 19, 2006, 07:39 PM | #

LOL

That post was of course a big tease so I am pleased it generated some heat!

But there WAS a subtext.  I was expressing my enjoyment of the heritage of my Volk.

Posted by jonjayray on February 19, 2006, 11:15 PM | #

Fred is in good form today.

You might remember a post last year in which I described my visit to a Ukrainian Catholic Byzantine Church.  They seemed to be preserving their culture quote well despite being a TINY minority—and then there are the Parsees etc etc

That grumber about the Olympics has been taken far too seriously.  As far as I am aware he was just writing stuff that would get him published and he represents only himself.

Posted by JW Holliday on February 20, 2006, 06:02 AM | #

JJR: You might remember a post last year in which I described my visit to a Ukrainian Catholic Byzantine Church.  They seemed to be preserving their culture quote well despite being a TINY minority—and then there are the Parsees etc etc You might remember a post last year in which I described my visit to a Ukrainian Catholic Byzantine Church.  They seemed to be preserving their culture quote well despite being a TINY minority—and then there are the Parsees etc etc”

The visit was in Australia?  Are we then surprised that an ethnic group can sustain their culture as a small minority in a tolerant, Anglo-majority white nation?  The same as in America; with a tolerant white majority and an official doctrine of multiculturalism, the idea that a small group can maintain their culture is of course obvious.

When Australia and America become majority non-white, then we’ll see how well those Ukrainians are doing.

India of course has a tradition of a highly stratified caste system in which groups outside the system also have their highly structured place in society.  Are we to emulate the Parsees then?  Emulate India?  Not very “libertarian”, that.

This all of course ignores that both the Ukrainians and Parsees are immigrant ethnies in the lands in question; and their examples in no way explain exactly why the majority indigenous group should, in the first place, allow themselves to be reduced to minority status. And then there are genetic interests ...

Here is a thought.  Steve Sailer should become a social ‘scientist’ (sic).  He displays exactly the same sort of shallow, breezy, anecdotal and illogical ‘thinking’ that seems characteristic of that clan. The comment quoted above is exactly the sort of ‘analysis’ that Steverino is known for, so, why not?

Posted by Nick Tamiroff on February 20, 2006, 07:07 PM | #

JJR-I enjoy reading both you and Fred Scrooby-you BOTH have salient points at times.I suggest you read the writings of THE Jon Jay who was one of the Founders of this REPUBLIC. He was aware of what constituted our new country,and it did not include Nigs,Nogs,Wogs,or Turd-worlders.

Posted by Andrew on February 22, 2006, 02:10 AM | #

You just made me remember something Nick,
There was an American Intellectual back in the late 1950’ies who philosophically found a way to de construct Karl Marks theories, or at least Invigorate them; And that was by Immigration, and third world Immigration; Even then (God bless their soles), the KKK, and the Minute men gave him a moratorium: Get out within 72 hours or we will kill you.
For the life of me I can not recall the Blokes name. But he did flee, ended up in Italy.
So in short, Multiculturalism is Marxism re invigorated by someone as intellectually depraved, as Marx Himself , could not dislodge the Middle Class, even Gramski, so replace them with. “Thus spake Multiculturalism” I’m serious, can not remember the bloke’s name. And look what it has done now anyhow.
All from some ferrite Looter who got the message: after he spoke it, but the Revisionist’s version of Marxism’s legacy lives on. We won’t, not for much longer.